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Modding Laser Tag Gear?

simoniker posted more than 10 years ago | from the blam-blam dept.

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digitalsushi writes "With summer here again our thoughts turn to the outdoors, and for two years, my peers and I have tried to find plans online for augmenting our laser tag gear to make it more realistic. We're not engineers, but also figured it can't be that hard to do something with some kind of infrared laser to decrease the beam width. What other sorts of inexpensive things could be added to our gear to make it more interesting? We're using the popular Laser Challenge V2 kits, but any brand at all would be interesting."

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Bouncing (1, Funny)

andyrut (300890) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678152)

What other sorts of inexpensive things could be added to our gear to make it more interesting?

If the sole interest is in making it more interesting, I would suggest attaching mirrors over the electronic targets on your person. This would not only effectively block your opponents shots, but makes them likely to bounce back and hit the attacker.

Re:Bouncing (1)

Grey Ninja (739021) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678247)

But what would happen to the bounced back shot if there was a mirror attached to it as well? ;-)

Is it SO hard to use Plain Text Links? [mozilla.org]

Re:Bouncing (1)

andyrut (300890) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678303)

But what would happen to the bounced back shot if there was a mirror attached to it as well? ;-)

It would result in a never-ending stream of laser fire in which no one would actually lose or gain points!

Re:Bouncing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9678407)

light bouncing back and forth between two mirrors... so if the mirrors are aligned just so, and you keep feeding energy into the system, you might end up with... a laser?

Leyden jars (3, Interesting)

Rei (128717) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678486)

Yeah, but what if their option is just to make it more fun? I say: Batteries + leyden jars + an electromagnetic switch triggered by a hit. Make those hits count!

What I'd love to see is an Ender's Game type of thing in which the clothes freeze up in the areas they're hit in, but that would probably be too difficult.

outfoors?? (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9678165)

"our thoughts turn to the outdoors"

You sir are, obviously, not a Slashdot reader :)

Dear Tron Guy (4, Funny)

mfh (56) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678168)

Please mod your Tron suit for Laser tag.

Re:Dear Tron Guy (5, Funny)

Neil Blender (555885) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678222)

Dear Tron Guy [ibiblio.org] ,

Please don't.

Thanks,

The Entire World

How about.. (5, Funny)

_14k4 (5085) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678177)

Upgrading to the real thing?

Paintball? ;)

Re:How about.. (4, Insightful)

Scottarius (248487) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678237)

I second that. Lasers tag will never compare to the thrill of paintball. Everything is much more exciting when it actually hurts to get shot.

Re:How about.. (3, Funny)

afidel (530433) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678251)

We used to use pellet guns. A bunch of crazy kids running around in winter coats in the middle of summer with weapons tends to draw all sorts of unwanted attention from the local constibulary for some odd reason =)

Re:How about.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9678321)

AIRSOFT... That's pretty damn real.

Re:How about.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9678406)

What about having one guy with laser tag gear and the other with a paintball gun.. Now THAT would be interesting.

Re:How about.. (4, Interesting)

Bios_Hakr (68586) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678420)

Try airsoft. Paintball is nice, but you don't get the real feeling of airsoft.

The basic premise is that the guns are VERY realistic, shoot .25g pellets, and are extremely moddable. I have a Walther p-99, a Colt M-4, and a psg-1. People see me walking out from my apartment and they get afraid.

In the US, most of the guns have red tips. But you can order the gun from overseas and have the red tip removed once it arrives.

They are also fairly accurate. My M-4 can hit 40 out of 40 at about 20 meters. While not as impressive as paintball accuracy, it gives the game a more in-your-face feel. My psg-1 can hit from 100 meters fairly well...depending on wind.

The pistols use gas charges and fire about 30 rounds between refils. The rifles use electric and can sustain 50 rounds (the limit of my magazine) with no prob and I have shot close to 1000 rounds between batteries.

Seriously, check into it.

the Deer Hunter (1)

twitter (104583) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678511)

recommends real bullets. It's more interesting, that's for sure.

What other sorts of inexpensive things? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9678181)

Exploding blood packs. And lots of them.

Re:What other sorts of inexpensive things? (5, Funny)

The Ultimate Fartkno (756456) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678391)



"New, from Ronco... it's Sam Peckinpah brand Laser Tag! Impress your friends! Scare your neighbors! Attract the attention of the Department of Homeland Security! For best results, play on fresh snow."

I know! (3, Funny)

Tebriel (192168) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678184)

Apply modules that translate sounds into amplified waves of destruction!

Now, to find a word or phrase which has power....

Re:I know! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9678301)

Muad D'ib! Aghhhhhhhhhh.

Re:I know! (5, Funny)

shannara256 (262093) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678356)

Ni!

Re:I know! (0)

MrFluffyPants26 (724497) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678477)

Muadib!

On a Spaceship (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9678193)

Put them all together and make a giant laser. Then proceed to blow up earth with your frickin laser.

Muahahahahahahaha

Airsoft (5, Informative)

dicepackage (526497) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678194)

Have you ever considered airsoft as an alternative? The guns are expensive but they should still be cheaper then getting realistic laser tag gear and a lot more fun. Airsoft uses air to launch small 6mm plastic BBs and they are designed to look like the real thing. Most guns that are sold in stores like Walmart are very cheaply made and not worth your money. I would recommend getting an AEG (Automatic Electric Gun) from Asia (airsoftshop.com, wgcshop.com) but if you prefer to buy from the US I would recommend combatdepot.com. Airsoft can be dangerous so if you play make sure you are wearing proper eye protection (at least ANSI 87.1). Also be sure to inform any neighbors you have as well as the police that you are having an airsoft game. You do not want the police comming to your house and opening fire on everyone they see.

Re:Airsoft (5, Funny)

consolidatedbord (689996) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678255)

Come now, we all know us nerds can't handle pain very well, let alone that of a plastic BB. It's already threatening enough with the possibility of a laser getting in your eyes. :)

Re:Airsoft (1)

hraefn (627340) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678279)

My main complaint with AirSoft is the replica-styling of the weapons. No one should mistake a paintball gun or a lasertag "gun" for something lethal.

That said, AirSoft is fun as heck, especially at close range (evil cackle)

Re:Airsoft (1)

Cruciform (42896) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678285)

Ear protection's a good idea too. Those little BB's can really hurt, and I wouldn't want to get nailed in the ear canal.

Crappy part is that covering your ears messes with hearing the enemy sneaking up on you.

Re:Airsoft (1)

bstanton0101 (631858) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678298)

6mm plastic BB? "You'll shoot your eye out."

Re:Airsoft (1)

dicepackage (526497) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678380)

That is why you wear ANSI 87.1 rated goggles. They give you a full seal around your eyes and they can withstand a shot from point blank range even with a heavily upgraded gun.

Re:Airsoft (1)

riptide_dot (759229) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678411)

Also be sure to inform any neighbors you have as well as the police that you are having an airsoft game.

Well said, but you obviously don't live in my neighborhood. The next time I step on one of these little BBs while barefoot on my driveway I'm gonna schedule a quick AirSoft with my neighborhood kids. The catch? I'll be using a paintball gun...:)

Re:Airsoft (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9678472)

I bought an Airsoft gun last year from http://www.hardcoreairsoft.com and haven't regretted it once. It helps when you have a local group with forums that post where games are.

Re:Airsoft (5, Funny)

AugstWest (79042) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678502)

The one advatange that laser tag has over things like this is a scoring system.

Of course, if you're a non-competitive type, this isn't an issue, but just thinking about this I can instantly remember being a kid and yelling "You missed me," despite having a little yellow bb lodged in my left eye.

Re:Airsoft (1)

Bios_Hakr (68586) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678521)

Oh, and airsoft does hurt. About a month ago, me and a friend came around a corner on each other...

His P-90 swung faster than my M-4...I still have a line of scars down my left side from his burst.

If you can get your hands on larger capacitors... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9678201)

I'm sure there's a way to rig the equipment so you don't need to wear detectors.

Obligatory (5, Funny)

Michael Crutcher (631990) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678204)

Maybe you should add frickin sharks to your lasers.

Mod parent up... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9678216)

Thank you.. great laugh.

Making it more realistic? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9678206)

You want to fire at your friends and coworkers with real laser weapons?

Re:Making it more realistic? (1)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678377)

You want to fire at your friends and coworkers with real laser weapons?

Any laser should do. All you need to do is up the output to the Kilowatt or higher range. With a few kilowatts and the proper optics, you should have a handy little drill. Up it into the megawatt range and things will start combusting. Go for the GigaWatt range and you can watch things vaporize!

BWHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Now there's that little problem with the charge time on Gigawatt lasers...

Paintball (1)

Inominate (412637) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678212)

Or airsoft.
Forget laser tag, buy a couple of masks and a couple of markers. They can be had online for not too much money.

paintball. (1)

thecombatwombat (571826) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678225)

I'm sure lots of people are going to say the same thing . . . but I stand by it.

Re:paintball. (1)

WormholeFiend (674934) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678381)

arent you annoyed at the insane number of mosquitoes (attracted by the CO2) at outdoor paintball fields?

Re:paintball. (1)

thecombatwombat (571826) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678499)

"arent you annoyed at the insane number of mosquitoes (attracted by the CO2) at outdoor paintball fields?"

Well, no. Like I heard on a radio ad recently . . . "Hell yeah it hurts." Mosquitos just aren't the concern, and wear some OFF spray or something like that.

Just outfit them with... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9678229)

stun gun mods that shock the wearer when hit, now thats realism.

the annoying "buzz" (5, Interesting)

Cruciform (42896) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678236)

A bunch of college kids we knew were addicted to playing "Laser Quest, and tried encouraging us (paintball fans) to play.

What a joke.

There's no real incentive not to get shot, besides the lack of points. With paintball you know when you've been hit, because it hurts like hell. Laser Quest's hits resulted in your vest buzzing and your gun not working for a few seconds.

Plus there was no running or ducking in the arena.

Suggestions of wiring eletrodes to the vest to zap players were met with blank stares and hostility. I still think that's the way to go... modify them from "laser tag" to "pain gun tag" :)

Re:the annoying "buzz" (2, Funny)

nacturation (646836) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678309)

Suggestions of wiring eletrodes to the vest to zap players were met with blank stares and hostility. I still think that's the way to go... modify them from "laser tag" to "pain gun tag" :)

Don't you mean Taser Tag [taser.com] ?

Re:the annoying "buzz" (1)

Cruciform (42896) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678333)

No, because there's no taser wires involved.

Re:the annoying "buzz" (4, Insightful)

wwest4 (183559) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678426)

Why is it only serious if there is pain involved? Why do people constantly need to establish some "hard core" pecking order to everything?

> There's no real incentive not to get shot, besides the lack of points.

Maybe there's no incentive to play paintball without someone getting their organs shredded by hot, flesh-piercing projectiles. Roar! Seriously, the "get a life, play paintball" argument is laughable coming from grown men who wear ghilli suits and shoot each other in a make-believe battlefield.

I love bikes. I especially like riding single track, freeride, and trials. I'd be an idiot if I called road cycling a joke because there is generally less blood involved. Not everyone needs to experience pain to feel alive, just us masochists :)

Re:the annoying "buzz" (2, Interesting)

cmowire (254489) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678457)

See, I think there's a split in the combat-games folks.

On one side you've got the SCA, paintball folks, etc, where you have pain.

On the other side, you've got padded-weapon combat, laser tag, etc. to avoid pain.

It seems like most folks fit into one or the other, but rarely both. Padded weaponry folks need to really whack SCA folks when they compete because otherwise the SCA person won't acknowlage that they've been hit.

In any case, I don't know if electrodes in the vest is an especially good idea. The problem is that your skin conductivity changes as it gets wet, increasing the risk that you'd accidentally give somebody too much amperage across the heart. And it gets awfully bulky.

I think you really need to just accept that laser tag does not involve pain and leave it at that. The real problem is the programming and rules of the particular game you were playing. Even if it's just inconvenient (have to work your way back through the field to the "hospital" if you are killed or some variant) to die, people will be more scared.

Re:the annoying "buzz" (1)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678493)

Suggestions of wiring eletrodes to the vest to zap players were met with blank stares and hostility. I still think that's the way to go... modify them from "laser tag" to "pain gun tag" :)

A more serious idea might be to attach Piezo buzzers at various points of the player's suit. When the player gets "hit", his suit will rattle his bones a little bit and make him not *want* to get hit.

Hmm... maybe I should suggest this to the local Lazer Storm...

ouch (1)

flatcat (464267) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678239)

Add in a stun gun for more realism. No more guessing if you hit someone, the twitching will tell all.

Before we get to the firepower (1)

Sexy Commando (612371) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678242)

Why not add some self-cleaning device?

I still got this icky feeling from the game last time. Touching last user's half-dried sweat is NOT a pleasant experience.

Realistic in reference to . . . (1)

aarku (151823) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678250)

US combat missions involving laser tag fights? But the public hasn't found out about those yet. . . I mean. uh.

Re:Realistic in reference to . . . (1, Interesting)

Octorian (14086) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678525)

Oh, you mean those guys over at Ft. Irwin, CA, running around with MILES gear on their M16's, M1A1's, and vests....

small width laser beam not more real... (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9678259)

Decrease the beam width? Most laser beams (and I would say all on inexpensive laser tag equipment) are very small width - .8mm less. And if you are thinkg about realism the beam should be more like real ammo... 2.2 mm at a MINIMUM. Making the barrels smaller would be a simple task - and I would think that you would only want that to make the gun look more real. To make it really real, you need full body suit of targets, the guns to make a louder sound when they shoot, and a computer system to manage it all to calculate delays on distance... or you could try paintball?

Re:small width laser beam not more real... (1)

Martin Blank (154261) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678438)

The beam spreads considerably at a distance. This was disconcerting as a child, as it meant that one had to be in close to avoid getting hit sometimes. The Lazer Tag pistols were more like shotguns in that way.

Better beam attenuation would also have the effect of increasing the effective range, making sniping more possible.

Bah... (1)

Fizzl (209397) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678264)

Forget the damn laser gheytag.
Just play paintpall. It's much more fun.

Re:Bah... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9678350)

sorry but paintball is massively less acurate.

until you can get me paintball sniper rifles stop offering up your lame sport.

paintball... funny... accuracy of the ball at 50 feet is horrid.

Re:Bah... (1)

Crinos (201310) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678505)

huh... sounds like you've never played with anyone who's decent.

I'm not that good at the sport, I run a Spyder Xtra with a Dye Boomstick, and I can hit someone at 50' no problem. Hell, even 100' isn't that bad. My friend has a Tippman A-5 with a flatline barrel, he can hit people at 150' no issue.

Sounds like you either need to practice more, or stop buying your markers at Wal-Mart.

Obvious! (2, Funny)

spidergoat2 (715962) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678269)

Your laser gun needs a laser targeting system.

Targets? (1)

Alexis Brooke (662281) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678271)

How about just a shirt with a target on the front and back to make it easier for the cops to accidentally shoot you. It'll definitely add to the realism of your experience.

Another mod (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9678272)

Besides increasing the power to extend the gun's range, maybe a sniper scope?

Aw hell, just attach an airsoft grenade launcher. [uncompany.com] :-D

Great Mod (2, Funny)

swordboy (472941) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678274)

1) Cut old laser gun exactly in half (longitudinally)
2) Discard both halves
3) Replace with this [yahoo.com] .

Nobody'll be the wiser!

Re:Great Mod (2, Funny)

flatcat (464267) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678439)

I love the sale price, $1.05 less then retail, .003% discount. What a bargain.

Nothing is more interesting than TAZERS! (5, Funny)

Orclover (228413) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678276)

Grab a cheap stungun/cattleprod from the next gunshow, rig it to the relay that activates when the light sensor is tagged. Attach leeds from the stungun to the wearee's body.

Viola, now whenever you get tagged not only are you embarrassed but your jiggling and peeing yourself as well. Fun for the whole family.

Remote Bomb Detonators (5, Interesting)

wwest4 (183559) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678278)

The "Laser Challenge" sets have a bomb that is ordinarily set off with a toggle switch - one direction for slow fuse, another for long fuse. It's a fairly simple hack to rip out the switch and substitute with an SCR and an IR photoresistor to allow remote detonation of the short fuse option. Then you can set minefields and set them off from a safe distance - Laser Geneva Conventions be damned!

I've been working on a home... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9678283)

...CO2 laser tag kit, but my brother seems as yet unwilling to test it out. Might just have to force the issue.

More real effects (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9678284)

How about rigging it up to a stun gun [howstuffworks.com] so when you get "hit" you really go down.

Electrodes (0, Redundant)

freaksta (524994) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678290)

How about electrodes that give you a slight (or not so slight) shock when you get shot. Try using Nural Stimulators, used for testing if muscle relaxers are still working on patients in surgery.

Infared Lasers?!?! (0)

purduephotog (218304) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678297)

What are you trying to do- burn holes in people? That's making it a bit TOO realistic, IMHO.

What you want to do is use RED lasers for targetting, but you need the beam to be larger than the 1cm it'll spread over any distance. So you need to either fire it into a spinning prism such that it 'scans' a space over an acceptable range, or you need to optically enlarge the beam and recollaminate it.

More fun, I would think, would be to use GREEN lasers. They're visible to the eye, but you would absolutely REQUIRE eye protection for both you and any participants. A green laser to the eye would be temporarily blinding; some red lasers too but green is 'peaked' for pain.

Now you could also use a bunch of stacked LED arrays to make a more realistic beam punch or larger batteries... or...

Laser Tag - Now 137% More Realistic! (1)

NickABusey (642217) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678299)

"find plans online for augmenting our laser tag gear to make it more realistic." More realistic. Yes, so you can feel like you really ARE nerds running around in the woods shooting at each other with laser pointers.

Re:Laser Tag - Now 137% More Realistic! (1)

OverlordQ (264228) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678501)

and is paintball any more realistic? How accurate are those guns 50+ feet? Laser tag is to Paintball, what Paintball is to Airsoft.

I have 4 kids, nothing violent is . . . (-1, Offtopic)

CrackHappy (625183) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678318)

allowed in our house. We don't let them even pretend to make guns with legos or shoot at each other with their fingers. We have a longbow and arrows and I take my oldest son shooting with me at the range and at Renaissance Faires. I have taught him safety and that a bow is a deadly weapon, even though it seems like a toy. We have had discussions about guns, fighting, and violence in general, and have explained that there are a lot of parents who do not have the same rules that we do, and that our children will have to live with not being able to fight back unless absolutely necessary.

Since the inception of this set of rules, our children never get physically violent with anyone at any time, nor do they shout or yell at each other. Sure, they will of course bug each other, and get angry, but they work it out themselves most of the time.

I am not advocating that we should ban violence or violent toys, I'm just stating that as a parent, I have made the choice not to raise my children with violence being equated with fun.

Does that mean TV is out too? (2, Informative)

Mz6 (741941) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678374)

Seriously, It's tough to find TV shows that aren't increasingly showing more violence, nudity, etc... Although, Bush is cracking down.

Re:I have 4 kids, nothing violent is . . . (1, Insightful)

numakris (684589) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678401)

HAHA Protect the kids. I hate overprotective psycho parents, hey, give them some reality. Guns are a reality, they should respect them and understand how to use one. THat's life.

Re:I have 4 kids, nothing violent is . . . (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9678433)

They are also prissy little wussies now, GOOD JOB!

Man i feel sorry for your kids (1)

eadint (156250) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678456)

This kind of modern day stewart smally psychology is pathetic.
kids are the way they are for a reason. violence and competitiveness are part of our genes. and by doing what your doing you are crippling your kids. your children will be laughed at in school and they will be losers in life.
you should be ashamed of yourself.

Re:I have 4 kids, nothing violent is . . . (2, Informative)

Your_Mom (94238) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678458)

Wow, how offtopic.

Since we are showing anecdotal eveidence. I was also raised in a house with similar rules. No Bow either.

I now play paintball, enjoy guns and play violent video games.

*shrug*

Feel free to keep congratulating yourself though.

Re:I have 4 kids, nothing violent is . . . (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9678460)

your kids will get the crap beat out of them in middle/high school.

REmember, the other 2/3rds of the children are being raised with little to no parent supervision...

the rich kid with the bmw get's his jollies by seeing how far he can push meeker kids. while the jocks simply havea n IQ of 30 (collectively) and walk around thinking... :must smash...

then the other turds, the "i'm cool white trash" to the "we're cool sheep" called the goth crowd (yes you are fricking sheep copying everyone else... just like you tattooed idiots... doing exactly what others are doing, nothing damned origional.)

they will get eaten alive if you dont traing them in martial arts so the firs time they find themselves cornered they can break some jock's arm without bating an eye. Oh and they need to act VERY crazy when they do it...

I smashed one of the biggest bully's in my school's head through his locker. I was not bothered by any of the idiots for the rest of my school life as they were afraid that I would come unglued and possibly kill them.

Bullies and jocks know one thing.... Pain. give them pain and they go away.

Real life will surprise you (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9678482)

Away from you they are probably already enjoying hookers, crack, and murder.

- if you can't enjoy a simple game of tag, one thing leads to another.

Re:I have 4 kids, nothing violent is . . . (1)

CrackHappy (625183) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678524)

I know, replying to myself, but instead of just replying to one of the comments directed at me, I'll just do that here.

So to answer those people who stated that kids should play with guns, please elaborate on why that is a good thing? Do you want them to play with knives too? How about matches? Or do you teach your children at all about the dangers of the world?

Seems like a bunch of people with no children replying, I don't even know why I'm responding.

*sigh*

I always wanted to use some MILES gear (2, Interesting)

Emot (700249) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678349)

As the subline says, I've always wanted to go out in the field with some MILES gear and blank-adapted rifles. It's much more fun when you're stalking around corners with an AR-15 and going BAMBAMBAMBAMBAM at an opponent until his little siren starts to beep. Unfortunately, real MILES gear is GODDAMNED EXPENSIVE and we've been looking for a cheaper alternative which fulfils the same roles (such as, shots fired, which shot from which player hits you, who you've hit, hit percentages, GPS position and bearing tracking, et cetera). If any of you out here in slash-land have any tips, I'd be much obliged.

MILES or SIMUNITIONS (1)

sinnfeiner1916 (793749) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678353)

The laser tag stuff that the army mods their weapons with would definatly increase realism. Of course, the guns themselves are expensive enough (at least $750 for a decent AR-15 type rifle, and not from Armalite at that...) and I have no idea where to get the MILES stuff. Some people have suggested paintball or airsoft. I would suggest simunitions. they are paintball-like cartridges fired from real weapons. the police use them to train, particularly for SWAT teams and stuff. http://www.simunition.com is the source.

Most realistic laser tag found to date BY FAR... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9678359)

...involved tossing CD burners at each other.

Wide range laser-tag (5, Interesting)

darth_MALL (657218) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678375)

Here's a mod i just thought of. Go about your daily business. Provide each player with a locator and a gun. Rig the locators to let you know when an opponent (also with a locator) is within a certain range (ie. 50 yds.). Begin panicked drawing of gun and be the first to find and kill the opponent. You must carry the gear at all times, and you must play regardless of your location, say in a classroom or at a wedding. This might be sweet as a campus-wide game. Even better if you don't know who the opponents are!

Re:Wide range laser-tag (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9678476)

This could be easily done with Micrel's [micrel.com] lineup of unlicensed UHF transmitter and receiver chips.

Re:Wide range laser-tag (1)

LordBodak (561365) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678530)

Sounds like a more advanced version of Killer [sjgames.com] .

Re:Wide range laser-tag (2, Interesting)

kabocox (199019) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678532)

Start a company that uses a cell phone to do this. You could have a radar map with the "nearest" targets. Of course, it would freak some folks out to have people sneaking around with their cell phones pointed like guns.

No Need (5, Funny)

travdaddy (527149) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678390)

My peers and I have tried to find plans online for augmenting our laser tag gear to make it more realistic.

Don't waste time augmenting to make it realistic, just use real guns! Besides, the Stormtroopers showed us that real laser guns are awfully hard to aim.

Re:No Need (1)

SecretSquirrel42 (789879) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678494)

Use a signal strength indicator instead... Then randomise a near miss/wound/kill based on that

add on for laser tag...... (1)

theJerk242 (778433) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678395)

What other sorts of inexpensive things could be added to our gear to make it more interesting?

Nothing! Just pistol whip each other. That ought to make an interesting/fun game of laser tag. ;)

Infrared (1)

amabbi (570009) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678405)

Using an infrared laser versus a visible light laser to "decrease beam width" makes no sense; the minimum waist radius of a Gaussian laser is directly proportional to the wavelength of light; therefore using an IR laser with the same optics will give you an increase in beam width and an increase in divergence. Gaussian beam optics [mellesgriot.com] tutorial.

Some random ideas. (5, Interesting)

NoMoreNicksLeft (516230) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678441)

1) Sensors on the gun, that if triggered, disable it for a few seconds.
2) Somehow, build a bunch of smaller sensors, and by this I mean alot. If every person has to wear coveralls that have a few hundred sensors on them, it's alot harder to cheat and just cover yours with your hand.
3) Have a wearable computer that interprets the sensor data. Not sure how to have it affect gameplay, but it seems you could tell the difference between a "kill" and a "flesh wound".
4) If you have an arena of sorts, have sensors on the outdoor lights for night play. Would be cool to "shoot them out".
5) Have lots of little 4" x 4" mirrors up in odd places, for bank shots.
6) Have everyone wear GPS. Send the output to a modified quake server... let people from around the world watch the virtual version of the game.

Shocker (0, Redundant)

ironicsky (569792) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678447)

Why not make it so when someone gets hit with the beam, they get a nice 9V shock, that'll teach them to get in the way of the beam, and it'd make the game more...interesting!

Try this for size... (4, Informative)

SecretSquirrel42 (789879) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678449)

IR and RF based...! http://www.oscmar.com (click on products)

Can you imagine? (0, Redundant)

x.Draino.x (693782) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678462)

Some old geeks running around with laser tag shit shooting each other? Get some paintball guns and stop playing with your thilly lathers.

I know! Throw rocks instead (1)

192939495969798999 (58312) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678471)

You can't see lasers until they've either hit you or not hit you. You can see rocks coming, that's the best part! We just need softer rocks, maybe yellow soft rocks. Maybe we could name them based on the sound they make, like Boff or Nerf or something like that. Yeah, Nerf! That's the ticket!
oh wait... DOH!

Laser Challenge V2 (5, Interesting)

auburnate (755235) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678473)

The Laser Challenge V2 is known to have a wide beam width. It means you could hit a target 50 ft away by aiming anywhere from ~15 feet to the left of the target to ~15 feet to the right of the target. Definitely not realistic. A simple mod would be putting tape across the IR diode with a pin-sized hole in the tape. Play around with the diameter of the hole for best results.

But as a side note, Laser Challenge V2 makes you wear the receiver on your chest, and its an easy thing to cover the receiver with your arms as you shoot at your opponents. You almost need multiple receivers which can monitor hits from all directions, but who wants to buy multiple Laser Challenge V2 setups for one person.

Paintball turns your entire body into receivers. If you crank down the velocity of your markers, you increase the number of people than can stand ( pain threshold ) to get tagged by a paintball. Remember, safety first ( googles and cups? for our male /.ers ).

The consequences aren't there (2, Insightful)

djktno (614737) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678481)

Seeing a laser tag story allowed me to reminisce a little. I didn't even remember I had a laser tag system until I read the post. Then I remember why I forgot about it in the first place - paintball.

What was lacking from the laser tag game was a reason to stay out of the way of the laser. No consequence to standing right out in the open, and as a kid, our games usually turned less fun after someone threw themselves into the line of fire for no reason.

Enter paintball a few years later. I, for one, am not jumping out in front of a flying paintball. The consequence (and initial sting) keeps the game fun. I don't think I stand alone in this.

Given the opportunity to play either, 99 times out of 100 I'm going to overlook laser tag without question.

At one time I thought that the new laser tag things were so cool. Finally an answer to the stick-guns we usually ran around with. When I found out that I could thwart my opponents firing by turning my back, it wasn't quite the answer we were looking for. Turn your back to a paintball, you're just going to sting in a different place.

I'm always a fan of modding things, but I can't see the point here when perfectly viable alternatives exist.

Get you some training, son (1)

uberR0ck (545216) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678487)

The gear is secondary to the tactics and employment of said gear.

For an increase in the realism, go to paintball, airsoft, etc. Back when I was a kid, BBs were the way to go and they are only minimally affected by hiding behind tall grass. (always use eye protection, heh heh) Ten pumps on a red ryder will make you keep your head down.

For a decrease in realism you could use rubber band or nerf guns. I hear water balloons are fun if you have the right kind of participants. {wink} {wink} {nudge} {nudge}

Either way the tactics is the most interesting.

we used to mod our guns... (1)

rayde (738949) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678506)

a bunch of my friends and I played a lot of laser tag in high school. a number of us made simple mods to our equipment.. for example, wiring a simple switch onto the speaker, or onto the LED lights. this made the noisy standard gun that always gave away your position a stealth weapon.

However, since only some of us had the know how to make these mods and they really gave us a big advantage, they were deemed illegal.

gnu-tag (2, Informative)

wud (709053) | more than 10 years ago | (#9678534)

not sure if this helps, but you could try http://www.lasertag.de/ [lasertag.de]
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