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NBC Aims For Stability Through Redundancy In Athens

timothy posted more than 9 years ago | from the more-feeds-please dept.

The Media 163

Darren writes "With the Athens Olympics just 27 days away NBC is gearing up for a massive 1210 hours of coverage (that's enough to watch TV over 50 days of Olympics 24/7). The infrastructure needed to provide such coverage is huge, and the potential for problems is significant. As a result NBC are taking all precautions possible and over the 17 days of competition they will utilize three satellite network linkups and three land-based connections to ensure they always have a connection. The mind boggles at what it is all going to cost - but I'm sure their advertising revenue will make it worth their while."

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163 comments

this is interesting (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9726890)

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wow (-1, Offtopic)

Madcapjack (635982) | more than 9 years ago | (#9726896)

Just 17 days to go...and I thought that the summer olympics were going to be next year...

Re:wow (4, Funny)

mattjb0010 (724744) | more than 9 years ago | (#9726922)

Just check out the Athens soccer stadium [adelaide.edu.au] !

Re:wow (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9726936)

how many days until its over :)

the olympics used to mean something

i just dont care anymore and a lot of people feel the same

Re:wow (1)

Waffle Iron (339739) | more than 9 years ago | (#9727159)

i just dont care anymore and a lot of people feel the same

I think it's about time to give the Olympics another 2000-year hiatus. What started out as a revival of an ancient track and field meet has turned into a bloated overhyped monstrosity overshadowed by never-ending doping scandals.

Re:wow (1)

tzanger (1575) | more than 9 years ago | (#9727224)

Homework:
loo?se|it'?s|the(ir|(y')?re)|you(r|'re)|a ?lot|r[ie]diculous|defin[ia]tely|(ir)?regardless

Nice!

Re:wow (1)

dukeisgod (739214) | more than 9 years ago | (#9726966)

I guess you're not real big into sports then. Dosen't everybody know the olympics happen every 4 years? Winter olympics get 02, 06, summer gets 96, 00, 04, etc. (Que reply stating "You must be new here, slashdotters aren't into sports...")

Re:wow (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9726983)

I guess you're not real big into sports then.

I guess you didn't get the joke then, about all the Athens delays?

Re:wow (2, Funny)

billygr (751676) | more than 9 years ago | (#9726995)

You forget that we are the Greeks.... Everything will be ready 5 minutes before the start of the olympics

Re:wow (0, Troll)

boudie (704942) | more than 9 years ago | (#9727170)

If you're going to be there, I wouldn't sit near the Saudi javelin throwing team.

Re:wow (1)

Joffrey (242525) | more than 9 years ago | (#9727267)

The olympics will, in fact, be this year, but unfortunately NBC, in their infinite [lack of] wisdom, has decided to not only show much of the games tape-delayed, but to show *ALL* HD coverage *AT LEAST* 24 hours delayed (so as not to detract from their pre-packaged schmaltzy prime-time programming).

Blah. NBC Sports died long ago... noone told NBC, unfortunately.

Never before... (-1, Redundant)

Jrod5000 at RPI (229934) | more than 9 years ago | (#9726903)

has this ever been more applicable!

1. build a beowulf networking monster
2. ???
3. profit!!1

incidentally,
in soviet russia, olympics broadcast j00!

Hang on... (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9726907)

The infrastructure needed to provide such coverage is huge and the potential for problems is significant.

Unlike the facilities for the Olympics themselves, the place is still a building site isn't it?

Re:Hang on... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9727272)

i hope they're bringing their own source of power...

Re:Hang on... (0, Flamebait)

Czernobog (588687) | more than 9 years ago | (#9727712)

No it bloody isn't. Check your facts first.
Ah I forget. You cocksuckers are called cowards for a reason.

Yes but... (5, Funny)

k4_pacific (736911) | more than 9 years ago | (#9726919)

Will they eb covering the math competition?

Re:Yes but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9726932)

Only if someone is guaranteed to get hurt. (writer's cramp does not count)

Re:Yes but... (2, Funny)

Jeff DeMaagd (2015) | more than 9 years ago | (#9727244)

Will they eb covering the math competition?

That's about as likely as an Olympic Spelling eeB.

In case of nuclear terrorism (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9726927)

Do they have a redundant Athens standing by?

Re:In case of nuclear terrorism (3, Insightful)

robogun (466062) | more than 9 years ago | (#9727639)

They don't have to actually pop one off over there - one phoned-in nuke threat could cause delays or cancellations costing hundreds of millions of dollars.

How can eunuchs participate? (0, Offtopic)

Thinkit4 (745166) | more than 9 years ago | (#9726931)

Well we woudn't pass the barr body test because our chromosomes are still XY. With the reduction in weight...perhaps the marathon.

Re:How can eunuchs participate? (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9727025)

1980 Moscow Olympics. Before the women's swimming competition, an East German swimmer and a Bulgarian swimmer are in the bathroom together. The Bulgarian swimmer is shaving her face with an electric razor. The East German swimmer looks into the mirror, touches her (own) chin and asks the Bulgarian swimmer if she can borrow the razor.

"No," says the Bulgarian swimmer and kicks the East German swimmer in the nuts.

Re:How can eunuchs participate? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9727087)

Dude, you said "we...our".... you've had your man lopped off? What...the...fuck.

Re:How can eunuchs participate? (1)

WarMonkey (721558) | more than 9 years ago | (#9727240)

Dude, you said "we...our".... you've had your man lopped off?

Doubtful. I'm straight, but I have enough gay friends to know the "eunuch" thing is probably used by the poster as a gay Muslim reference.

Some scholars have been re-evaluating old historical texts and determining that the frequent references to "eunuchs" in Arab culture back then may have been simply gays rather than mutilated people in many cases. I don't consider myself enough of an historian or language expert to offer an imformed opinion on the topic myself, but I've seen the thesis presented. Google "Queer Jihad".

Then again, the poster may actually be ball-less and insane.

NBC has the backbone (5, Interesting)

toetagger1 (795806) | more than 9 years ago | (#9726933)

NBC is owned by GE [ge.com] , which in turn owns GE Energy [gepower.com] . With the resent history of power outages [cbsnews.com] on July 13 in Grece, I wonder how they back up against that?

Re:NBC has the backbone (5, Informative)

Colymbosathon ecplec (729842) | more than 9 years ago | (#9726980)

Same way we power stuff when off the grid or the power goes down, and what hospitals and datacenters and lots of other places use: diesel powered gensets. Plus, if they did lose feed, they have a ton of advertising and rehashed 'content' to fill the space.

^CE^

aaaahhh, redundancy.. (0, Redundant)

peculiarmethod (301094) | more than 9 years ago | (#9726939)

redundancy; something slashdot knows a LOT about. They should come to us to get the low down on how to report each event multiple times as if it were the firs.. wha? Equipment? Oh.. nebermind.. *mumbles walking away*

Wide World of Sports (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9726943)

Slashdot poll.

I would like to have rough man-on-man sex with:

[x] Marlin Perkins
[ ] Jeff Corwin
[ ] Jim Fowler
[ ] Steve Irwin

Why the indirect linkage via a blog? (5, Insightful)

poulbailey (231304) | more than 9 years ago | (#9726945)

This story just seems to be posted to drive traffic to a blog. Why do the Slashdot editors allow this?

The proper stories are posted at sportsillustrated.cnn.com [cnn.com] (printer friendly [clickability.com] ) and computerworld.com [computerworld.com] (printer friendly [computerworld.com] ) respectively. Click those links instead.

Re:Why the indirect linkage via a blog? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9726957)

Maybe the editors wanted to encourage redundancy :-)

Re:Why the indirect linkage via a blog? (1)

mattjb0010 (724744) | more than 9 years ago | (#9726960)

This story just seems to be posted to drive traffic to a blog. Why do the Slashdot editors allow this?

I take it you didn't win the hourly prize then?

Re:Why the indirect linkage via a blog? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9726961)

Thanks. Wish I had mod points today.

Re:Why the indirect linkage via a blog? (1)

Jeff DeMaagd (2015) | more than 9 years ago | (#9727101)

That takes too much work. They are above having to read articles or think critically. Heaven forfend that an editor actually RTFA!

because Darren Rowse is pimping his adverts/popups (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9727104)


view-source seems to turn up shitloads of Amazon refferals, fastclick popups, extreme tracking and the usual blog spammers bullshit
just add
67.15.16.54
to your firewall and he has gone forever

Re:Why the indirect linkage via a blog? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9727349)

This story just seems to be posted to drive traffic to a blog. Why do the Slashdot editors allow this?

Because in essence, that is exactly what slashdot is.

It's a listing of user submitted links, that in turn get selected by moderators (slashdot calls them editors, but as you can tell from their spelling errors, they don't edit.)

Re:Why the indirect linkage via a blog? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9727529)

That's alright, Darren. You've rightfully earned your ad impressions.

Re:Why the indirect linkage via a blog? (1)

mat catastrophe (105256) | more than 9 years ago | (#9727358)

You didn't get the latest interweb memo? Blogs are the New Media, baby.

Get with the program. We don't need stodgy, fact-checked, well-written stories anymore. All we need are quick-witted, off-the-cuff pieces based on the news.

It's a new century and news is changing, yea! Get on board the train or be left at the station, man.

Redundancy isn't the only point of success. (3, Funny)

rice_burners_suck (243660) | more than 9 years ago | (#9726947)

NBC's idea of redundancy might sound like a good one at first, but according to the Department of Redundancy Department, redundancy has its risks as well. First and foremost is the risk of a false sense of security. For example, if the satellite gets shot down, then their three links to the satellite won't be worth the paper they're printed on.

Re:Redundancy isn't the only point of success. (1)

TimTheFoolMan (656432) | more than 9 years ago | (#9726965)

Must Must See See TTVV!

Advertising revenue will skyrocket... (5, Interesting)

crashnbur (127738) | more than 9 years ago | (#9726949)

...because everyone will be watching hoping to be glued to their TV when/if a blackout or terrorist attack hits. There's no news like bad news, and nothing can replace the ego of an American who can say he/she "saw it as it happened".

(I don't think I will intentionally watch any of the Olympics, because I'll be out looking for a job and preparing for grad school.)

Re:Advertising revenue will skyrocket... (1)

timeOday (582209) | more than 9 years ago | (#9727068)

...nothing can replace the ego of an American who can say he/she "saw it as it happened".
Americans moreso than anybody else?

Re:Advertising revenue will skyrocket... (1)

aardvarkjoe (156801) | more than 9 years ago | (#9727099)

...nothing can replace the ego of an American who can say he/she "saw it as it happened".
Americans moreso than anybody else?
We Americans have a bigger ego than anyone else -- and we're proud of it!

Re:Advertising revenue will skyrocket... (1)

iantri (687643) | more than 9 years ago | (#9727438)

Yes.. a la stories of where one was when JFK was shot.

Re:Advertising revenue will skyrocket... (1)

DAldredge (2353) | more than 9 years ago | (#9727211)

Nah, they will tune if if something happens but that will not help. The nets don't show ads during terror attack coverage.

Re:Advertising revenue will skyrocket... (1)

Halfbaked Plan (769830) | more than 9 years ago | (#9727312)

and nothing can replace the ego of an American who can say he/she "saw it as it happened".

I was on Slashdot the morning of September 11, 2001, and read an off-topic comment about the crash, then turned on my TV set to see the live images of the burning tower (before the second plane).

Sad or what?

Re:Advertising revenue will skyrocket... (1, Troll)

vt0asta (16536) | more than 9 years ago | (#9727695)

There's no news like bad news, and nothing can replace the ego of an American who can say he/she "saw it as it happened". ...especially when we "see it happen" on European soil. I know I for one, can't wait to get to say "I told you so" and "It was no doubt a result of European's foriegn policy during the cold war." At last, it's not to be, everyone knows terrorists have Europeans in their back pocket. ;)

solve all problems using the Slashdot method (2, Funny)

Jrod5000 at RPI (229934) | more than 9 years ago | (#9726954)

it's easy! afraid of losing a broadcast? simply submit a duplicate broadcast! if both get through, blame Taco!

I mean what the hell, it works for slashdot!

And after? (5, Funny)

Trailwalker (648636) | more than 9 years ago | (#9726955)

Let's get this into perspective - if you were to watch those 1210 hours end on end you'd be watching 50.4 days worth of television around the clock!


Death would be a mercy after that.

Thats nothing... (-1, Redundant)

sk6307 (797832) | more than 9 years ago | (#9726963)

Slashdot has more redundancy than that any day of the week.

Olympics not profitable for television (5, Interesting)

Jayfar (630313) | more than 9 years ago | (#9726964)

The mind boggles at what it is all going to cost - but I'm sure their advertising revenue will make it worth their while.

The networks generally lose millions on the olympic broadcasts - it's a prestige thing for them. Maybe they gain some small advantage in viewership for subsequent sports programming.

Re:Olympics not profitable for television (1)

snkline (542610) | more than 9 years ago | (#9727011)

Yeah, I seem to remember one of the networks (I think it was NBC) coming out with 3 Olypmpics dedicated cable channels in the early 90's. They were a HORRIBLE economic venture, losing so much money I think it made the news.

Re:Olympics not profitable for television (4, Interesting)

DocScience4 (795837) | more than 9 years ago | (#9727123)

It's what is known as a "loss leader" in the broadcasting industry. Not only is it (though marginally) for getting people to watch other sports, and overall "prestige", but mainly it delivers a sizeable audience to which they can promote their new and incumbent shows.

They can also charge a premium rate for certain events on NBC (akin to the Super Bowl), and can provide more limited-appeal sports to narrowly-focused audiences in non-prime-time, as well as on their ancillary (e.g. USA) networks.

Re:Olympics not profitable for television (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9727546)

It's true that in the past the networks lost money on the Olympics coverage, as is the case with the NFL and and NBA (especially the NBA). But because NBC scored a huge coup in securing the Olympics rights for 10 years at a rock bottom price (through shrewd politics and secret discussions with the IOC), the past several Olympics have eked out profits, with the 2002 Winter games scoring large profits.

NBC paid around $3.5 billion for the rights to all Olympics from 2000-2008. In cotrast, NBC's ad sales for the 2000 Olympics were around $900 million, and the 2002 Winter Olympics brought in a whopping $750 million (really good for a Winter olympics and a sagging ad industry). Estimates are that NBC made around $75-$80 million on the 2002 Winter Olympics, and made a small $30-$40 million profit on the 2000 Olympics.

(NBC Sports President) Dick Ebersol is still claiming NBC will make a larger profit on the 2004 Olympics then they made in 2002. It'll be tough, given the time difference and scandals recently. I last heard NBC still had some ad stock left for the 2004 Olympics. Compared to this time in 2002, all but the crappiest packages were sold out.

(Look on Google for the sources, I'm lazy...I just happen to know the figures from work experience.)

Of course they're gonna cover eveything (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9726968)

How would it look if the inevitable terrorist attack happened at an event they weren't covering? And with all the coverage and the redundant communications connections they might just pull off a nice little ratings coup with all the fun carnage the newsies like to show off, we might even get to watch it happen live. ....Not that I'm expecting anything to go wrong or anything....

Why does NBC bother? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9726986)

Despite spending so much time & effort covering the games, they don't actually broadcast the vast majority of it!

NBC will have a couple hours of wrapup every day, and that will be it.

Answer (2, Interesting)

mattjb0010 (724744) | more than 9 years ago | (#9727080)

Resale

Re:Why does NBC bother? (2, Insightful)

NickV (30252) | more than 9 years ago | (#9727258)

That's actually not true. It seems like NBC is planning on prempting ALL of their coverage on all of their networks (I wonder what they're going to do with CNBC during business hours... olympics + stock ticker?)

They'll be broadcasting it ALL across all 7 of their channels (bravo, cnbc, msnbc, telemundo, nbc, USA, nbcHD [local HD affiliates]. The HD broadcasts will be in 5.1 1080i too, which is pretty damn slick.

Of course, aside from a prestige thing, this looks like network programming suicide.

Re:Why does NBC bother? -- MOD parent UP (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9727265)

Thank you.

I'd rather be spending my time watching the actual competition.

-cmh

Re:Why does NBC bother? (1)

i_should_be_working (720372) | more than 9 years ago | (#9727371)

Yeah, sometimes i wish nbc could be banned from showing sports at all.
Even the stuff they do cover (which, in my slightly biased opinion, consists of way too much gymnastics) shows up far too late. The sydney olympics were the worst. They showed events that had literally taken place over 30 hours earlier. And all, i suspect, because they have to do a big mock up story about every frickin event. Talk about it a half hour before they show it. Talk about if for half an hour after. Instead of just showing more events which would be faster and cheaper.

That and their half hour stories of the atheletes whole lives makes me glad i have access to sports channels from other countries.

Maybe I don't get out enough, (1)

tarquin_fim_bim (649994) | more than 9 years ago | (#9726992)

but what is Olympics?

Wonder why they chose the same service provider... (3, Interesting)

syrinje (781614) | more than 9 years ago | (#9727008)

...AT&T for all the six links. I would have thought it made sense to go with multiple service providers if I was spreading out my options for 99.9% availability.

I just loved this gem from the link in the article "NBC will be able to send live feeds from Greece to the U.S. over all six links at once or use them for separate transmissions." Hmmm...six identical high-speed digital transmissions of Marion Jones tumbling in ignominy - yeeesh, wot a waste of bandwidth!

Now here is an article about the design of the media center and its redundant systems [infoworld.com] that is more in tune with my ./er persona

Re:Wonder why they chose the same service provider (1)

chadjg (615827) | more than 9 years ago | (#9727092)

I work in the bush leagues of broadcasting, and I can't wait until they surplus all that equipment. It's usually high end stuff that's perfectly good, but can't be sold as new. It won't go on eBay, probably, but if you like some of the small parts you see at the Olympics, start saving your pennies now.

No idea (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9727015)

I work for a major UK broadcaster's engineering department (shortly to be sold to Siemens :( ) and, believe me, 6 connections is not in the big league of broadcast redundancy. For The Scottish open last week we had 12 feeds (six main feeds, and reserve circuits for each) - distributed over a variety of paths and technologies (for risk-reduction.) (Good) Broadcasters take multiple redundancy very seriously.

Re:No idea (1)

tarquin_fim_bim (649994) | more than 9 years ago | (#9727027)

Broadcasters take multiple redundancy very seriously.

They'd have to if they're going to be working for Siemens.

Re:No idea (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9727052)

believe me, 6 connections is not in the big league of broadcast redundancy. For The Scottish open last week we had 12 feeds

Yes but Greece isn't the UK, it's one of the 4 third-world countries (sorry, 14 now) that are part of the EC pretending to be part of the Union for more than just leeching off of Brussel's subventions.

6 feeds is probably half of Greek's total infrastructure, whereas you could pull 50 out of the butt of wee Jock "poo-pong" McPlop, public toilet cleaner in Aberdeen.

In the spirit! (0, Redundant)

NanoGator (522640) | more than 9 years ago | (#9727028)

In the spirit of NBC's 'get the news out through redundancy' campaign, Slashdot will dupe every article they post about the Olympics!

My How We Forget So Quickly.. (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9727029)

Doesn't anyone remember the huge problems facing the Olympics this year due to extremely poor ticket sales (http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=spo rtsNews&storyID=5657784)?

How will all of that coverage put a positive spin on the massive number of empty seats at each event?

Re:My How We Forget So Quickly.. (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9727058)

By not scanning the cameras across those empty stadium seats. What you don't see, doesn't exist.

Re:My How We Forget So Quickly.. (1)

kumachan (618013) | more than 9 years ago | (#9727199)

The will use the same technology they used in Gladiator to put cheering crowds in the empty seats. Look out for the stadium to be full of romans.

Re:My How We Forget So Quickly.. (1)

slidester (795588) | more than 9 years ago | (#9727526)

They do it like Hollywood. Digital tech would cost a lot of money so they just put cardboard cutouts and a few human sit-ins - no zoom ins in that crowd.

Congratulations, Darren. (5, Funny)

croddy (659025) | more than 9 years ago | (#9727037)

you got your personal olympics blog linked on the front page of slashdot.
now go upstairs, your mom needs some help in the kitchen.

Re:Congratulations, Darren. (1)

Halfbaked Plan (769830) | more than 9 years ago | (#9727325)

Upstairs? I thought he lived in the little closet compartment 'under the stairs' leading to the second floor.

Well, he can pretend, anyway.

All that redundancy means absolutely nothing... (3, Informative)

Wakko Warner (324) | more than 9 years ago | (#9727043)

...if the power keeps going out every other day [iht.com] in Athens.

- A.P.

Got power? (1)

Jayfar (630313) | more than 9 years ago | (#9727213)

That's what they make UPSen and generators for. But seriously, while it's a given that the Olympics data centers and IT infrastructure would be backed by a fleet of trailer-mounted gennies, I wonder if they do have enough backup power in place at each venue to fully power lighting and such. That'll be a lot of of generators.

Yes, but will they have electricity? (2, Interesting)

^DA (82715) | more than 9 years ago | (#9727070)

Linking to multible sattelite networks is all well and good, but what about electricity? Just last week Athens had a blackout due to overload in the electric grid. This situation will not improve during the games!

Guess they will have their own generators too.

cover everything I say (1)

v1x (528604) | more than 9 years ago | (#9727084)

My gripe with Olympics coverage in the US is that you never get to see any event which does not involve some US team/athlete. So I'm assuming that this would likely be 1200 something hours of US athletes-only fest. Entirely goes against the spirit of the Olympics itself.

Re:cover everything I say (1)

pyrrhonist (701154) | more than 9 years ago | (#9727165)

My gripe with Olympics coverage in the US is that you never get to see any event which does not involve some US team/athlete. So I'm assuming that this would likely be 1200 something hours of US athletes-only fest. Entirely goes against the spirit of the Olympics itself.

Specifically, it will be 1210 hours of BEACH VOLLEYBALL!!!! All the other events will be ignored, even if they include U.S. athletes.

I don't support ad-supported stuff (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9727098)



I don't support ad-supported stuff. If it ain't opensource/free I don't want nothing to do with it.

Redundancy in filming American competitors (4, Interesting)

synx (29979) | more than 9 years ago | (#9727131)

So NBC will have redundancy - so you won't miss a minute of your favourite American competitor! Most people I know joke about NBC's coverage of the Olympics - its laughable. They'll show an event, then when the American loses they'll cut to a new event.

Contrast this with CBC and BBC which cover entire events regardless of who wins or loses.

So those who get cable, time to watch CBC for _full_ coverage of the Olympics!

Re:Redundancy in filming American competitors (1)

neil.pearce (53830) | more than 9 years ago | (#9727206)

From the look of our British team this year, if the BBC stopped covering events after they lost I predict they'd be packing up and flying home by day 2.

Re:Redundancy in filming American competitors (2, Informative)

lakin (702310) | more than 9 years ago | (#9727386)

On the topic of BBC, NBC may have a nice redundant setup but its not like the BBC dont either: http://www.bbctechnology.com/news40.htm [bbctechnology.com] Paul

Re:Redundancy in filming American competitors (1)

Reckless Visionary (323969) | more than 9 years ago | (#9727544)

Funny how there aren't dozens of British competitors that had a chance in hell to win that the BBC could cover, huh?

Does anyone pay attention to the olympics anymore? (1, Interesting)

deacon (40533) | more than 9 years ago | (#9727156)

I mean, seriously, after all the corruption issues [google.com] , does anyone take this seriously?

Note the 48,500 links for this search!

Seems like the Olympics has become like the UN: A good idea, which has been defiled by some of the people involved.

Pity, really.

I don't think i've watched since the Israeli 1972 Olympic Team was murdered in Munich [google.com]

Re:Does anyone pay attention to the olympics anymo (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9727346)

When you read the history of the 1972 Israeli massacre, you start to see what should have happened, and what needs to happen in similar terrorist incidents.

The 'martyrs' of the event were the terrorists. The true martyrs, of course, were the hostages they took.

And what should have been the result? The 234 Arab prisoners in Israeli jails who the terrorists were demanding be freed should have been swiftly executed.

In hostage situations, assume the hostages are already dead and take swift action. Carry through in making an example and hostage taking will quickly cease to be a viable terrorist tactic.

Re:Does anyone pay attention to the olympics anymo (0, Offtopic)

SirTalon42 (751509) | more than 9 years ago | (#9727499)

"The 234 Arab prisoners in Israeli jails who the terrorists were demanding be freed should have been swiftly executed."

Wow I can just see NBC's headlines after that:
"Peace loving Muslims friend's slaughtered after their requested release!"
"Those damn jews did it again! No wonder everyone hates them!"
"Israel's jihad?"
"Israel takes Muslim hostages then executes them then threatens they will kill NBC more civilians!"

No shooting sports coverage (2, Interesting)

chiph (523845) | more than 9 years ago | (#9727167)

Now if we can get them to use all that technolgy to broadcast the shooting sports. I'm getting a little tired of watching hours of Curling [worldcurli...ration.org] or rhythmic gymnastics [olympic.org] .

Chip H.

Over a billion bucks ... (1)

peatbakke (52079) | more than 9 years ago | (#9727176)

I bet advertising revenues are at least a billion bucks.

This site [tnsmi-cmr.com] says the 2002 Winter olympics took in over $700M. 2000 Summer took in over $900M.

Yeow.

So what? The coverage will suck anyway (4, Insightful)

sjbe (173966) | more than 9 years ago | (#9727181)

The major network coverage of the Olympics stinks anyway. Endless fluff pieces about athletes, almost no coverage of anyone who is not from the US, and heaven forbid they spend time on anything but track, volleyball, swimming, diving and gymnastics (again especially if no americans figure for a gold) and tape delayed coverage. Last olympics I was lucky enough to have CBC coverage since I lived near Canada but no such luck now. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against the sports that do get the airtime but the coverage is usually horrible for anyone who actually knows/cares about a given sport.

For example, the bicyling time trial last time was "The Lance Armstrong Show". I don't have anything against Lance but he didn't even win and there were lots of other good riders I would have liked to see. What little coverage was shown was poor and basically an expose about Lance's life. I wanted to see the event. If I wanted information about a rider there are plenty of ways to find out. (Yes I know why they do this but I don't have to like it)

Anyway I seriously doubt I'll be watching much of the Olympics. The coverage will be annoying and instead of seeing a variety of sports I'll be subjected to every qualifying round of the men's volleyball team. Ugh...

Re:So what? The coverage will suck anyway (1)

bugmenot (788326) | more than 9 years ago | (#9727396)

How come the Olympics isn't available on pay-per-view? NBC could broadcast the same crappy coverage as always, but make full coverage available on PPV.
That way if you could pick and choose the sports you want to watch with full coverage.

Re:So what? The coverage will suck anyway (1)

Detritus (11846) | more than 9 years ago | (#9727586)

I would pay money for NBC to stay at home and let some other network, like the BBC, cover the games. They have completely screwed up the coverage of the games for decades. The worst part is that they have bought the exclusive broadcast rights, so it's watch their drek or watch nothing.

TRIPLECAST?!? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9727197)

Ooh ooh ooH!!

Three satellite feeds... have my prayers been answered? A return of the Olympics Triplecast?!? The 1992 games were the best evar. Nothing could possibly beat Badmitton, Water Polo, and Shot Put on three different channels at the SAME TIME!!!

It's all in HD too (1)

NickV (30252) | more than 9 years ago | (#9727201)

The even more impressive part is all of the coverage on the normal NBC affiliates will be in HD with 5.1 (!!) sound.

Now that's just sick! (and about time, NBC's HD coverage is the worse of the big 3)

balancing connections (2, Insightful)

shokk (187512) | more than 9 years ago | (#9727210)

Balancing three Satellite connections and three landlines is not such a big deal. With equipment like Israeli company Radware's LinkProof [radware.com] at both ends, the loss of one line would not be noticed. You can configure that equipment to aggregate all connections to multiply the bandwidth, including spreading VPN traffic across the lines, or just use the other lines as failover. These boxes are supposed to handle 10 connections and are very configurable and are veeeery configurable.

The same technology is available for smaller sites with their Linkproof Branch product.

That's nice, except... (1)

iantri (687643) | more than 9 years ago | (#9727255)

NBC's coverage of the olympics has always sucked.

A two or three hours a day, "plausably live".

We're lucky, here in Canada the CBC (our national semi-public broadcaster, who must of spend their entire year's budget on it) is airing the Olympics, and their coverage has always been very good for a regular broadcast station -- the Olympics are run virtually all day. (And through a good bit of the evening, too.)

Re:That's nice, except... (2, Insightful)

NickV (30252) | more than 9 years ago | (#9727279)

I think that's the point... NBC is planning to show people that they can do good coverage, because ALOT of people complained ALOT about Sydney.

1200+ hours of live coverage across 7 channels all day is about as good as you can get.

'puters (1)

Fuzzums (250400) | more than 9 years ago | (#9727282)

What we want to know is the computers they're using are running Linux and what is done to protect the network against h@xx0rs.

1210 hours of programming? Bring it on! (3, Funny)

fprefect (14608) | more than 9 years ago | (#9727355)

I've got my TiVo configured with an external RAID and terabytes of storage, I'm ready -- bring it on!

Headline: (1)

gardyloo (512791) | more than 9 years ago | (#9727579)

NBC - 99.99% Reliabe Connection for Athens Olympics

Gee, I'm glad spellchecking is 100% reliabe.

They dont have VIDEOTAPE!? (1)

The Cisco Kid (31490) | more than 9 years ago | (#9727580)

> You certainly cant tell a marathon runner that
> you need to run it over [because of a network
> issue].

Nor could you tape it locally as you were capturing it, and retransmit it from the tape. No. That would be impossible. Or at the very least, it wouldnt cost nearly as much as having a 6-way redundant transmission link. And the goal is to spend as much of money as possible, right?

Kiraly is full of the Olympic spirit, obviously (1)

gardyloo (512791) | more than 9 years ago | (#9727605)

"An Olympic event is a one-time event, and there are no do-overs," Bob Kiraly, director of broadcast and telecommunications operations at NBC, said in an interview from Athens this week. "Everything we plan for in our networks or our Athens operations center is really based on a failure scenario. You certainly can't tell a marathon runner that you need to run it over [because of a network issue]. "

Aww... What is this world coming to? I remember, back in the day, we never complained about having to do the events over for little things like Roman invasions and volcanic eruptions.
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