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Duke University Giving iPods To 1650 Freshmen

timothy posted more than 10 years ago | from the freshpeople dept.

Education 395

baptiste writes "Duke University has entered into an agreement with Apple to distribute iPods to all of the incoming freshmen this year - that's 1650 iPods! This agreement is part of an initiative to "encourage creative uses of technology in education and campus life" The iPods will have audio and text on them including special university content such as "faculty-provided course content, including language lessons, music, recorded lectures and audio books." Faculty will be assisted in creating new content for these devices by Duke's Center for Instructional Technology And here you thought iPods were just for music!"

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Propz to GNAA (-1, Troll)

James A. U. Joyce (795786) | more than 10 years ago | (#9745817)

Propz to rolloffle and goat-see and all other GNAA ops except bare!

lol fp

"Nothing for you to see here. Please move along." (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9745819)

Looks like /. needs to work out some bugs yet...

FREE! OH BOy! (4, Funny)

strictnein (318940) | more than 10 years ago | (#9745820)

Free after your $30,000 tuition! Good for you! And if you're lucky enough to graduate after 4 years you're only down $120,000! But you got a "free" iPod!

Re:FREE! OH BOy! (0)

Ohreally_factor (593551) | more than 10 years ago | (#9745864)

I thought it was $27,000 for tuition. I guess they needed to raise prices if they're going to be giving away free iPods.

Re:FREE! OH BOy! (3, Funny)

Mr. McGibby (41471) | more than 10 years ago | (#9745894)

Ever heard of rounding?

Re:FREE! OH BOy! (0)

Ohreally_factor (593551) | more than 10 years ago | (#9746058)

No, what's that? I'm still learning fractions.

Re:FREE! OH BOy! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9745888)

I know Apple hardware is expensive but this is ridiculous...

Re:FREE! OH BOy! (2, Insightful)

antic (29198) | more than 10 years ago | (#9746080)

Is it all that different to other companies providing branded materials to schools servicing younger brackets (i.e., notepads, textbooks, rulers, etc). I've read that this is quite extensive in poorer regions within the US.

Good to see (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9745821)

schools are still spending their students' money judiciously and guardedly.

iPod University, Class of 2008 (1)

mdrejhon (203654) | more than 10 years ago | (#9745823)

I can imagine this sponsored T-Shirt included in the obligatory frosh welcome kit:

"iPod University Graduate
Class of 2008"

(In an Apple Computer font. too.)

Man... (0, Redundant)

Metallic Matty (579124) | more than 10 years ago | (#9745825)

All this iPod news is getting me depressed. First I got shafted by buying a 3rd generation one only weeks before the 4th generation is released, for cheaper and better.

Then I find out that all the Duke freshmen are getting free ones.

Bummer. Maybe I should apply to Duke next year.

Re:Man... (0)

Metallic Matty (579124) | more than 10 years ago | (#9745844)

Bummer. Maybe I should apply to Duke next year. On second thought I'll just keep going to this community college and transfer to a state college and buy an alienware laptop, desktop, and four more ipods to balance out next year's tuition.

Sort of.

Re:Man... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9745898)

Interesting technique, you karma whore.

It seems that "HTML Formatted" must've passed by you unnoticed. Too bad.

1) Reply to Yourself on Slashdot
2) ???
3) Profit?

Nah, I'm playing. I've done it before too (accidentally posted "HTML formatted", that is.

Re:Man... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9745914)

)

Forgot to close my parenthesis.

What?

Suggestion: (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9745956)

All of you shut the fuck up.

Re:Man... (1, Offtopic)

Winterblink (575267) | more than 10 years ago | (#9745883)

A bit offtopic here, but I have to say the 3G ones appeal to me more than the 4G ones. I much prefer the no moving parts version of the scrollwheel to the new clicky one. But that's just me ;)

Re:Man... (0, Offtopic)

skinfitz (564041) | more than 10 years ago | (#9746079)

I have a 3G model which I bought a few months ago, but I have to say looking at the 4G, I'd rather keep the seperate buttons for play / pause and track forward / back, and interesting to see they have not used the 60Gb drive from Toshiba.

There is in my opinion nothing physically wrong with the 3G model, however the biggest problem with the iPod in my opinion has still not been addressed and that is the missing ability to change playlists from the remote. I mean c'mon Apple - talk about obvious and how hard can it be??

just for music? (-1, Redundant)

double_plus_ungod (678733) | more than 10 years ago | (#9745828)

No, it's for stealing, um, borrowing MS Office from Apple Stores!

Wow (5, Insightful)

cloudkj (685320) | more than 10 years ago | (#9745829)

What a creative way to add to the distractions that college students face when attending class. I can just see a lecture hall full of students lulled to sleep by the sweet music resonating from their spanking new iPods.

Re:Wow (5, Funny)

livhan28 (749650) | more than 10 years ago | (#9745872)

Next up, Harvard to distribute gameboy advance

Re:Wow (4, Insightful)

sakusha (441986) | more than 10 years ago | (#9745897)

ha.. remember that musical montage scene in the movie "Real Genius" where the kid goes to physics lectures, each time he goes to class, there are fewer people and more tape recorders, until finally one day he goes in and there is nobody in the classroom, there's just a tape recorder delivering the lecture to a room full of tape recorders.

I first heard this story in 1974 when I visited MIT, they publish an annual guide for freshmen and someone gave me one, that story was in it, supposedly it was true.

But anyway, I can just see this happening with the iPods. They should have given away the Belkin voice recorder gadgets with the iPods.

In other news... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9745830)

Duke University has also raised tuition by $299.

Re:In other news... (1)

weinford (97037) | more than 10 years ago | (#9745976)

What an easy way to get media attention, right after the peak of the oh-wow-there-are-new-iPods-coming wave.

And the Freshman assault rate rises 5,000% (5, Funny)

Alcimedes (398213) | more than 10 years ago | (#9745832)

The first time one of those Freshman herds wanders their way into Frat row looking for beer, it's going to get ugly.

I can see a bunch of pissed of Seniors beating the ever loving crap out of incoming freshman for their iPods. How do you tell them apart (unless they laser engrave them all).

Re:And the Freshman assault rate rises 5,000% (1)

Moridineas (213502) | more than 10 years ago | (#9745847)

Honestly, ipods are pretty common on campus already. And there's not really a frat row either :-p

Re:And the Freshman assault rate rises 5,000% (1)

Matt - Duke '05 (321176) | more than 10 years ago | (#9745916)

long live the benches!

Re:And the Freshman assault rate rises 5,000% (1)

emilienne (647608) | more than 10 years ago | (#9746002)

I prefer to call them frat "islands", like the preserves that contain some of our precious endangered species...

What are the chances that the frosh starts the new upgrading craze on campus? from 3G to 4G? Maybe now's the time for a trade?

Re:And the Freshman assault rate rises 5,000% (1)

Moridineas (213502) | more than 10 years ago | (#9746039)

all I know is my ipod is .0023 inches too think, dammit! I won't be styling on campus next year! (because I graduated, but hey!)

Re:And the Freshman assault rate rises 5,000% (5, Funny)

Mr. Roadkill (731328) | more than 10 years ago | (#9746045)

How do you tell them apart (unless they laser engrave them all)
Why laser engrave them, when implanting an RFID tag is probably much less painf... um, you were talking about the freshmen, weren't you?

oh please (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9745834)

How is this different from any of the "mandatory laptop" programs so many shcools impose on freshmen?

Same shit, different hardware.

It's not "free", it's all there in your tuition debt buddy...

Why not a PDA? (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9745841)

Why did the Duke university had to shed out $300+ dollars for an iPod, while they could do the same thing (regarding text scheduling) with a Zire 31 that costs $140, and it can be expanded with SD cards if the students need to also listen to music.

I mean, this way the university could save a truck load of money and give out a handheld that is way more capable than the iPod in running real applications, plus having the ability to play mp3s!

I think that some people who take such decisions are just not practical.

Re:Why not a PDA? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9745866)

Guess what I use -- this slick new technology for scheduling... it's called a PAPER FUCKING CALENDAR. $5 at the bookstore, and will last just as long. As far as audio books go, I can use -- GET THIS -- a $10 walkman and a cassette tape.

This is just a great way to suck yet more money from poor students.

Re:Why not a PDA? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9745889)

Ya, my PDA is an amazing 3x5 pad I picked up at a 99 cents store.

The batteries last forever and inputing text is so easy it's just like writing!

Re:Why not a PDA? (1)

chrism238 (657741) | more than 10 years ago | (#9745913)

Why did the Duke university had(sic) to shed out $300+ dollars(sic) for an iPod.....

What makes you think that they paid anything like $300?

Re:Why not a PDA? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9745942)

Even if they paid 30% off, PalmOne could match that too. That's not an issue, of how much "off" they had, because no matter how much good price you might got, the Zire is still cheaper.

Re:Why not a PDA? (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9745938)

Uhhh, you've completely ignore the part about listening to voice recordings. The iPod has a tremendous price/storage advantage over the Zire (no matter how much you expand it). I can just see all the Duke students listening to only the first five minutes of every lecture on their truckload-of-money-saving Palm...

Re:Why not a PDA? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9745954)

You can easily fit an hour-long lecture in 16 MB.

Re:Why not a PDA? (5, Informative)

emilienne (647608) | more than 10 years ago | (#9745953)

As someone whose friend was the student advisor to OIT (Duke's equivalent of the department that breaks computers on campus) on this monumental (and drool-worthy, click wheels...) project, I think that they made this decision based on several factors, including the "ooh, pretty!" factor.

Duke has reasonable coverage of computers everywhere, but their filesystem on campus is pretty esoteric (and a pain to navigate) if you want to transfer files back and forth. We're pretty much still stuck on Zips and transferring by email, etc etc. I think the latest stat was that 91% of kids on campus had one computer (at least). The thing is, though, you walk into a computer lab on campus and the bigger ones are almost always full of people, because it's a easy way to check email or do whatever without braving our really lame transportation system.

In the grand tradition of certain majors, too, we huddle in unix and windows labs at odd hours to program. Yes, we're still learning about OS using NACHOS. Duke's tried making us use CVS for stuff, but CVS is broken on our system and we have to resort to really weird measures in order to backup our files.

Sure, we could get a Zire, but how much would that cover with people carrying huge files back and forth? iPods are just hard drives anyways. I've seen some engineers (and computer science majors) hauling substantial fileage back and forth between dorm and class (and their Solaris lab, crappy as hell but comfy for all nighters).

At the same time, Duke's pretty much plastered with iPods already. A frosh class with ipods will just be the equivalent of previous frosh classes with their little Duke lanyards. A thousand or so more really won't make THAT much of a difference.

And let's face it, when you're talking 20000 for tuition, 4000 for an average crappy double, then 2500 or so for meals and way too much for books later, a few hundred for a white hard drive that your kid is going to phone home about in a few weeks and whine to get isn't going to hurt anymore than what you're already shelling out.

Besides, Duke's already raised the tuition for this year, even before the inclusion of the iPod. My firstborn is being auctioned on eBay as we speak.

Re:Why not a PDA? (5, Informative)

Matt - Duke '05 (321176) | more than 10 years ago | (#9746019)

but their filesystem on campus is pretty esoteric (and a pain to navigate) if you want to transfer files back and forth


Are you serious? Have you ever used AFS [duke.edu] on campus? There is absolutely no need whatsoever to use a floppy/zip disk. If you don't have your own computer, every single Mac/Windows computer on campus has a shortcut on the desktop to your AFS home directory and if you login from a Unix box, your home directory _is_ your AFS directory.

As for CVS being broken, again, I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

  1. setenv CVSROOT ~/MyRepositoryDirectory
  2. cvs init
  3. pts creategroup myusername:mynewgroupname
  4. pts adduser someuser myusername:mynewgroupname
  5. pts adduser someuser2 myusername:mynewgroupname
  6. pts adduser someuser3 myusername:mynewgroupname
  7. fs setacl ~/MyRepositoryDirectory myusername:mynewgroupname write


If that doesn't suit your needs, you can always setup an account on sourceforge.cs.duke.edu. All of this information was almost certainly provided to you in whatever class you took, by the way.

Re:Why not a PDA? (4, Informative)

emilienne (647608) | more than 10 years ago | (#9746094)

I have used AFS, which died three times on three or four computers that I owned the first two years I was at Duke (I've also been using DukeNet for about 10 years now, but that's another story). Saving to AFS is a pain. It's slow and inconvenient and more often than not, it's confusing for the users. Saving a word file to AFS at times can be a test of wills while you wait for it to write and discover that the pretty new IBM boxen has frozen. Granted, it works pretty well mostly, but sitting in Teer at 1 in the morning and realizing that the filesystem crashed utterly (files don't exist for this hour) is not really something you want to go through more than four times.

As for CVS, we pretty much gave up on it due to the fact that it never worked while we slogged through 104 and 108 (even 110, it might have worked, but then it was a choice of either track down whatever the hell it was or get some sleep).

All this information was almost certainly provided and was certainly received, but was it certainly put to use effectively? I'm guessing certainly not.

emi
CS, Trinity '05

Re:Why not a PDA? (1)

eliza_effect (715148) | more than 10 years ago | (#9745965)

Because then the headline wouldn't read "Duke University Gives Freshmen iPods." You don't think they bought them retail, do you? I highly doubt the dean walking into the nearest Apple Store and said "I'll take 1,600 of.. these."

Re:Why not a PDA? (1)

peoria kid (692946) | more than 10 years ago | (#9746053)

This is so that classes and notes can be recorded and transferred to the iPod. There is an untapped market for voice files that can be used for many applications including lecture notes, tours of campus, art gallery tours etc.

Watch out. (1)

Mr. Vandemar (797798) | more than 10 years ago | (#9745846)

If the INDUCE act passes, I have a feeling someone's in trouble... Sad, but true.

All I can say is... (5, Funny)

webslacker (15723) | more than 10 years ago | (#9745850)

It must really suck to be a sophomore at Duke!

Re:All I can say is... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9745899)

/Duke sucks

Re:All I can say is... (-1, Offtopic)

L7_ (645377) | more than 10 years ago | (#9746015)

/Duke basketball sucks! P.S. go cats. [go.com] :)

Re:All I can say is... (1)

Radish03 (248960) | more than 10 years ago | (#9745911)

Nah, they can just trade for them. Gently used freshman calc book for an ipod, anyone?

Re:All I can say is... (5, Funny)

Kris_J (10111) | more than 10 years ago | (#9746085)

"For sale: Textbooks, never used. Marks to prove it." -- an actual sign I saw while at Uni.

tuition hike (0, Redundant)

goon america (536413) | more than 10 years ago | (#9745852)

In unrelated news, tuition is up $399 this year.

Re:tuition hike (1)

goon america (536413) | more than 10 years ago | (#9745961)

Seriously, there's no such thing as free, especially for something concrete like this. It's not like these iPods are wafting out of thin air -- somebody's got to be paying for them. My guess is at least some of this has been spent using student's money on their behalf.

Iowa State University students get something too! (3, Funny)

scoser (780371) | more than 10 years ago | (#9745857)

With all the Napster subscriptions and iPods being handed out by other universities, I felt like I was getting screwed by Iowa State, until I realized I was getting something as well when I return this fall.

A nice, big tuition increase. Yay!

Oh wait...

Re:Iowa State University students get something to (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9745927)

I had a professor that has collected the tuition rates for the past 25 years. He uses it as a data set for elementary math classes, there is a lab where they determine that the best fit approximation is exponential (!).

cmeador

Re:Iowa State University students get something to (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9745948)

Welcome to the club. I got screwed for eight years there, and not the gentle kind of screwing, the deep hurting kind. A better use of the time and the money would have been limo leases, then running Papa Smithsons out of business.

Hum... (3, Insightful)

xenostar (746407) | more than 10 years ago | (#9745859)

That's some good advertising. It seems like a ploy to lure more kids to their college, rather than a sincere techonological initiative. It's disgusting how colleges in the US are becoming more and more expensive, and entering a competitive advertisement scenario similar to the corporate arena. Hey, with the amount of money they charge for tuition, it's a business well worth it.

Re:Hum... (1)

gmhowell (26755) | more than 10 years ago | (#9746093)

There's already far too many people in college in the US. The reason for the expense is a supply demand issue. Too many idiots think that a degree in Fine Arts is a worthwhile investment.

Upperclassmen (2, Interesting)

Matt - Duke '05 (321176) | more than 10 years ago | (#9745863)

Guess it's time to reapply as a freshman?

Also, considering that Gates and his wife have donated $55 million [duke.edu] to Duke since 1998, I wonder how/if this will affect the university's relationship with Microsoft.

Re:Upperclassmen (1)

giraphe (651004) | more than 10 years ago | (#9746042)

Well, Microsoft isn't marketing a product like the iPod, are they? And the iPod is compatable with MS Windows computers... So I don't think it will change anything.

Re:Upperclassmen (2, Insightful)

rootofevil (188401) | more than 10 years ago | (#9746069)

wont affect mine - dook still sucks! /UMD grad

How much did that cost? (2, Insightful)

sakusha (441986) | more than 10 years ago | (#9745870)

Jeez, I wonder what the cost of that deal was. Even at wholesale quantity pricing, that's a boatload of money. Let's see, 1650 iPods, let's assume a hugely generous discount so the wholesale cost is $200 each, that's $330k. Yow.

Of course the students end up paying for it anyway, in the "computer fees" that are usually tacked on to tuition.

Re:How much did that cost? (4, Interesting)

Hadlock (143607) | more than 10 years ago | (#9745941)

It's pretty simple. You don't do a marketing campaign unless you can make back at least 10x your investment. The average Duke student's family probably makes well over $100,000/year. Many students' parents hold jobs where they interact with other wealthy people. Give 1650 iPods to privilidged students, watch them come home, dad or mom asks "let me see that neat toy they gave you that everyone's been talking about... hey, that's pretty neat. We should get Johnny (your little brother) one for christmas. The wife could probably use an iPod mini..." Johnny and Wife get iPods, their (rich) friends see them, want one, and buy one (or more). Not to mention the fact that this greatly increases the likelyhood that Joe freshman will buy a mac to work with his iPod, furthering sales.

Talk about the perfect targeted advertising.

Re:How much did that cost? (1)

sakusha (441986) | more than 10 years ago | (#9745970)

No, I'm not talking about how much it cost APPLE, I'm talking about how much it cost Duke. Apple didn't give these iPods away for free. The Duke website says the deal will cost about $500k, so we can extrapolate the wholesale cost of each iPod is around $300.

Re:How much did that cost? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9746084)

that's $330k. Yow.

Yow? The University of Memphis spends almost that much money just keeping the grass cut and landscape looking nice every year. We're looking at spending 11 M on a new university center. $330K is NOT that much money for a university like Duke.

Oh, great. (1, Troll)

James A. V. Joyce (798462) | more than 10 years ago | (#9745876)

This oughta up the distraction level still further in my lectures. Jesus. I thought it was bad enough that you got the occasional antisocial bastard who sat there through the whole thing with his headphones pounding out crappy music constantly. Now everyone is getting iPods? I've already known two friends who have theirs nicked. This is just going to be money poured down the drain that would be better spent on something helpful. The batteries run out by the time they leave, anyway! I find this very annoying; it's difficult to structure my thoughts because I can't see what real benefit these provide. Listening to music out and about is just a novelty that wears off after a few weeks. Just a marketing gimmick. Just think! All these people will probably now go out and buy useless Apple stuff to go with it!

secret Ipod replacement scheme (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9746098)

I heard on the radio the other day that Apple has had so much grief over its "new battery - you have to buy a new ipod" policy, that now if you go into an apple store and pull out your ipod and complain about the battery, they offer you a "battery replacement service" for free, which essentially means them going out the back and getting you a new ipod.

I don't know if this is true or not and I'm not going and spending the $800 they cost here to find out.

damn, talk about "inducing piracy" (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9745879)

Hey kids, Uncle Steve says: Rip, Mix, Burn!

(Yeah like I actually bought music in college..
cassette deck? check. Friends with lots of CDs to borrow?? check. eyepatch and parrot? check.)

This is pretty cool but I must agree with an earlier poster: wouldn't a PDA be more flexible and interesting? I could see students doing all kinds of stuff with a wireless PDA. with the iPod I see them listening to music in class. Woo hoo.

On the other hand, as an Apple shareholder I welcome the strength of the Apple brand to the duke campus! Woo hoo!

The cutting edge! (3, Interesting)

demogorgonx (785903) | more than 10 years ago | (#9745880)

"O'Brien cited as an example the elementary Spanish course taught by visiting assistant professor Lisa Merschel. Students in that course will use the iPods to listen to audio examples of textbook exercises, hear Spanish songs and record their own efforts to speak Spanish." When I was in high school we did these things with cassette tapes...for a lot cheaper...

Who's paying for it? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9745892)

If it's a give-away from apple, I can see why they overcharge the rest of us.

too bad for this girl (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9745902)

Sucks for my friend... she just bought a 3rd gen. 2 days before the 4th gen came out, and to top it off, this fall she will be a freshman at Duke. Apple should schedule these things....

Tuition Hikes (2, Informative)

Dominatus (796241) | more than 10 years ago | (#9745904)

I see the tuition hike posts being modded as funny, but there's actual seriousness to that. The university I go to decided to give "free" laptops to the engineers, but in return hike up their tuition another 2,000 dollars in addition to the annual hike the whole university got. Free...more like "forced"

Existing owners? (1)

livhan28 (749650) | more than 10 years ago | (#9745905)

What about people who already own, or just bought a brand new ipod? Do they have to rebuy a new one again with their tuition?

Oh come on... (2, Insightful)

MrLaminar (774857) | more than 10 years ago | (#9745906)

And here you thought iPods were just for music!

Oh come on, give me a break... Sure they can be used for something else, in the same way that you can save any file you want on the iPod, but how many students are really going to use it that way?

WOW! Audio files that aren't music on my iPod. w00t!

They can make anything boring (1)

Secret Chimp (557933) | more than 10 years ago | (#9745907)

Nothing ruins an iPod like having to listen to freakin' classwork on it. Imagine the newbies setting it on a full-library shuffle, not realizing that a good shuffle-mix of tunes will eventually be interrupted by the drone of a professor on modern auditory cues in the urban world or some useless college crap like that.

que tal? (1)

Chaos_Thoery (797173) | more than 10 years ago | (#9745909)

"hear Spanish songs and record their own efforts to speak Spanish." Just what I need, a $300 iPod to listen to my own crappy, broken spanish... What "language" they really need to use this for is C++ or Java so they can transport files, etc.

this is crazy IMHO... (0, Troll)

Liskl (793809) | more than 10 years ago | (#9745910)

i've been to duke university (dropped out cause of finaincial aid trouble) what crazy junk is this

Website :: binary revolution [sytes.net]

next up... (4, Funny)

WegianWarrior (649800) | more than 10 years ago | (#9745912)

...all the freshmen gets sued by the RIAA for pirating music...


(It's logical - they own a digital playbackdevice and has access to 'da interweb'; off course they steal music, and at least 10 gig each)

Re:next up... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9746088)

interweb? Oh, you must mean the IntarWeb; people make that mistake all the time.

I'm sure all the students will think this is great (5, Insightful)

Psyonic (547207) | more than 10 years ago | (#9745928)

. . . Especially the ones working all summer to barely pay their tuition as it is. I mean... who needs food when you have an iPod? Good call Duke! At least schools with mandatory laptop programs can claim they are for school... I don't really know what Duke was thinking. Probably just wanted to gain the image of the most "hip" university or something like that... but it just comes off to me as stupid.

In other news... (3, Funny)

Reverant (581129) | more than 10 years ago | (#9745944)

..Orders placed on the new "iPod" music player from Apple Computers Inc, on it's "Applestore" online store will be delayed, sources confirmed. Rumours are that a high-priority customer ordered more than 1600 units of the new iPod, causing significant delays to end consumers. Angry Apple customers have once again, turned to sites like "Crazy Apple Rumours" for immediate relief.

While this may seem weird (5, Insightful)

iamdrscience (541136) | more than 10 years ago | (#9745952)

While this may seem weird at first, it's really not all that different from Universities that require (or give) students have laptops to a certain specification. Knowing that every student has an iPod lets you do cool things like distribute language lessons for them, be able to standardly trade music for a music class (no more problems with students or teachers that don't have a CD burner or a tape player or a computer to play the music on). Now whether it really makes sense considering the cost of the iPods is another matter, but who knows, Apple is certainly giving them a massive discount because they're both buying in bulk and giving Apple more positive press (just like the G5 cluster did).

Re:While this may seem weird (1)

Reverant (581129) | more than 10 years ago | (#9745980)

no more problems with students or teachers that don't have a CD burner or a tape player or a computer to play the music on
Say, uploading stuff to an iPod would require a computer, now wouldn't it?

Re:While this may seem weird (1)

Kris_J (10111) | more than 10 years ago | (#9746074)

You could probably setup a computer-free option by using USB-to-go.

Re:While this may seem weird (1)

Moofie (22272) | more than 10 years ago | (#9746086)

Don't worry. Momsy and Dadsy will buy you a laptop if they can afford to send you to Duke.

Re:While this may seem weird (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9746110)

Yeah, but you could use a computer lab computer to upload a lecture in a minute or so whereas just sitting down in a computer lab to listen to the three hour recording would be less than ideal.

well, here's some irony for you... (5, Interesting)

Shaheen (313) | more than 10 years ago | (#9745971)

Here at Microsoft, we recently launched Office 2004 for OS X. The entirety of MacBU (that's Mac Business Unit) received iPods as ship presents. Kinda makes me feel like I'm working for the wrong group :)

I've gotta have more cowbell!!! (0, Troll)

ruiner5000 (241452) | more than 10 years ago | (#9745974)

Keep those ipod stories coming. I mean is there anything else more important? Good thing /. wasn't around when the walman came out.

I call bullshit (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9745981)

Slashdot: News for Nerds. Stuff that matters. Oh yeah, and constant articles about the iPod, as well.

iPods ~ Cheating (5, Informative)

Lifix (791281) | more than 10 years ago | (#9745993)

I will be a senior at a "laptop school" on the east coast. At my school, each student is forced to rent an iBook to use during the four school years. Now since the entire school is based on Macs, many many students purchase iPods to go along with their Macs. In the last month of school, several dozen students found a program that would allow iPods to display text from files on the iPod. Six of these students were caught cheating on their final exams, and two were caught after having downloaded a 32 gig dictionary to their iPods and using them on the SAT. iPods are a great tool as long as everyone realizes that they are not radios, they are hard drives and can be used to remove data surreptitiously, or to covertly access data, or just general data storage.

Re:iPods ~ Cheating (5, Insightful)

Moofie (22272) | more than 10 years ago | (#9746100)

Sounds like the proctors were doing their job.

Anybody fooling with any object other than a pencil and the test booklet in the SAT room should be summarily dismissed and fined.

Napster (1)

SJ (13711) | more than 10 years ago | (#9745996)

I guess Duke won't be getting a RIAA enforced subscription to Napster then.

It will be interesting to see how this pans out.

Um... (3, Insightful)

nougatmachine (445974) | more than 10 years ago | (#9746003)

...and what happens when the students attach the iPods to their own computers, and get all of the 'educational' audio erased?

cool...! (1)

xenlab (658576) | more than 10 years ago | (#9746005)

i don't know what's better - the faculty supplied content or the free carrier ? go tarheels :-p

That's Great! (1)

example42 (760044) | more than 10 years ago | (#9746034)

I've been looking for a good place to go to snag an iPod. I'm tired of trying to pick-pocket ones around Atlanta where the ratio of iPod to non-iPod owners is 1:100. I can just head to Duke for the weekend and lift as many as I can carry!

And if that fails, I'll see about opening up a high-quality headphone sales kiosk next to the Duke Campus!

How about giving those (soon to be) poor lads (1)

melted (227442) | more than 10 years ago | (#9746044)

some actual EDUCATION? Isn't this what they're there for?

Marketing (5, Insightful)

flopsy mopsalon (635863) | more than 10 years ago | (#9746052)

Apple has always been strongly involved in education, even when losing ground to PCs in the market, Apple's market share in the educational arena has remained sizeable.

This new move, however, is worrisome. It is clear that is scheme to "distribute" Ipods among Duke freshmen is nothing but a naked marketing move on Apple's part: sellng the already high-margin Ipods at a so-called "discount" to Duke under the thin pretext of using them as an educational device, then pushing Itunes, and relying on the soon-to-be-well-paid Duke graduates to keep buying Apple products in the future.

It is a shame that a fine institution Duke has gone in for such a blatant moneymaking gimmick. This is little different from allowing companies like Coca-Cola to produce "educational" material for our public schools. I would hope the Duke adminsistration would have taken a page from and choose integrity over money, but such is not to be. For shame. [msn.com]

1650 free iPods eh? (1)

ewombatnet (699110) | more than 10 years ago | (#9746054)

So I guess within 2 years there'll be a market for at least a thousand "I went to Duke University and all I got was this lousy iPod" T-Shirts?

Judging from their behavior at basketball games... (1)

Buddy Bradley (723638) | more than 10 years ago | (#9746056)

The duke students will just record 10 GB of each other chanting obscentites. They're still just miffed UNC was the first internet radio simulcaster. Using a panasonic platnium boom box, CUSeeMee, a sunstation, and dual OC45 pipes straight to the backbone was a REALLY cool first use of tech innovation http://www.wxyc.org

Can we say confusion? (1)

TheOtherAgentM (700696) | more than 10 years ago | (#9746081)

You can't watch something that small all the time. They'll get stolen. Plus, college kids are irresponsible. I was one not too long ago. They'll get left everywhere. There will be lines at the lost and found for iPods and confusion as to which iPod belongs to whom.

Obligatory /. question (0, Redundant)

Mystilleef (752456) | more than 10 years ago | (#9746082)

Will it run Linux?

Think of the professors! (1)

BoyHowdyAAF (659522) | more than 10 years ago | (#9746090)

After the RIAA and Apple take their share, how much of the money from their downloaded lectures are the professors gonna see?

The Duke freshmen who download these lectures from iTunes are just supporting an exploitative, dying industry! ;)

Missing option (1)

skinfitz (564041) | more than 10 years ago | (#9746095)

The iPods will have audio and text on them including special university content such as "faculty-provided course content, including language lessons, music, recorded lectures and audio books."

...and pr0n. Maybe not exactly when they are handed out, but give it time.
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