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Doom 3 System Requirements Revealed

CmdrTaco posted more than 10 years ago | from the time-for-a-new-video-card dept.

Quake 867

The Llama King writes "The Houston Chronicle's Computing column has got the Doom 3 minimum system requirements. Biggest eye-opener: 384 MB of memory. Lots of mainstream PCs have been sold with 256 MB of RAM, so upgrades will be in order. RAM chip manufacturers should be salivating about now. You'll also need a 1.5-GHz processor and a GeForce 3 or Radeon 8500 graphics card or better."

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fp (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9748674)

fp

FP (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9748677)

FP

YAY FP (-1, Offtopic)

aeroz3 (306042) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748684)

My first, and the first in this thread!

thats it? (5, Informative)

inf0c0m (83209) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748685)

is it just me or is anyone else suprised?

even the desktops i order at work come with more than the minimum requirements (1gb ram, 2.4+ processor, geforce 4 (or equiv)).

but i suppose this is minimum requirements...recommended will be much more.

Re:thats it? (1)

mirko (198274) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748715)

At least this is decent, so this mean this might even run on some of the high-end G4 MacIntosh, once ported.

Re:thats it? (2, Insightful)

Mysticode (696150) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748728)

Although most (all?) new machines are going to meet these specs. There are a number of people out there (me for one) that will have to upgrade to meet the minimum specs. I have Duron 1.3 with 384MB RAM. Atleast I don't need to upgrade my video card - Radion 9600

Re:thats it? (0, Flamebait)

halowolf (692775) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748825)

At least I don't need to upgrade my video card - Rad(e)on 9600

I don't want to burst your bubble, but a Radeon 9600, isn't going to give you the best graphical performance for D3. Of course if you will settle for the revolutionary ground breaking gameplay of D3 and its new original storyline and all, then you should be satisfied.

Please insert the correct use of sarcasm and sense of humor as appropriate.

Re:thats it? (3, Insightful)

Threni (635302) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748738)

I'm surprised it got an article on Slashdot in it's own right, given that the information was posted as a comment to the last Doom3 story here. I guess we're going to see lots more exciting Doom3 facts and figures here.

Re:thats it? (1)

mirko (198274) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748900)

I just wish the game included all the revised maps of the original doom1 and 2 games. :)

Re:thats it? (2)

JawFunk (722169) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748784)

I'm surprised at the desktops your "work" uses. Many small businesses rely on dumb terminals, some loaded with windows 98. I think the biggest upset here is the graphics card. Gamers will have to expend an additional $200 just to run the game in 'OK' mode?

Work Computers (1)

rwiedower (572254) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748836)

I personally spec'd out the machines at my office, and all have 512mb of memory. I'm not sure why you'd need a gig of memory unless you were doing a great deal of image/video editing. For my users, 512mb is massive overkill, but it means that they should be able to use these machines for at least 5 years. (All they do is word processing and internet surfing.)

On the plus side, it means we're already compliant for Doom 3. Yay!

Re:thats it? (1)

B.Hoover (786780) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748870)

No! Doom3 supports four different rendering paths, depending on what hardware you use. This means that they are able to get very closely comparable graphics with the different styles of hardware pipelines that are supported. Each will be slightly different, but id promised that the game will keep most of the visual effect throughout a broad spectrum of hardware setups. If anyone can do it right, it's id. John Carmack virtually pioneered the technology that drove the desktop 3d graphics cards.

Oh....I also was "surprised". *yawn* (1, Insightful)

gorim (700913) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748795)

In fact, I would have been majorly shocked if it wasn't some reasonable amount as 386MB. No useful modern PC should come with less than 512MB and should really have 1GB. If someone doesn't need 512MB of memory, then they don't need that pentium 1Gz+ either.

Re:Oh....I also was "surprised". *yawn* (5, Funny)

MarsDefenseMinister (738128) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748861)

That's completely unreasonable, because it would require someone to buy a 256 MB module, a 128 MB Module, and a 2 MB module. What the hell were they thinking?

Re:Oh....I also was "surprised". *yawn* (1)

gorim (700913) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748893)

Oops what was I thinking ? That it needed 384MB more than the original DOOM maybe ? My bad! Heh.

Re:thats it? (1)

gmhowell (26755) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748827)

but i suppose this is minimum requirements...recommended will be much more.

Also:
People with strange combinations will less than minimum that get 493 frames per second.
People with 64 bit processors, $500 video cards, and a terabyte of ram that call the game 'unplayable'.
People who have those crappy GeForce4 value cards that are actually worse than a GF3 bitching and moaning (while those of us with the GF3 Ti500 laugh at their stupidity)

Re:thats it? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9748828)

f1rst post!

Re:thats it? (4, Funny)

ScottGant (642590) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748837)

But once again they have to cater to the lowest common denominator. There are always those people out there that have the computer they bought 15 years ago and want it to last a lifetime and then go:

"back in my day we could program everything in 640k of RAM, that's all you need and we were THANKFULL to get it! And we loved it! We didn't need more than 4 colors on our CGA displays. Why doesn't Doom 3 work on that? Guess they don't know how to program! Oh...have to go, Matlock is on..."

Re:thats it? (4, Interesting)

Albanach (527650) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748885)

geforce 4 (or equiv)

You have geforce 4 cards in your work desktops? What are folk doing in your office that they need 3D accellaration? Most office desktops I see have Intel 810 chipsets or similar, and why the heck not... these are for running Excel, not playing Doom III. A quick trip over to Dell.com shows their Office desktops - the Optiplex range all come with ether Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 900 (GMA900) or Embedded Intel Extreme Graphics 2. I suspect neither of those would be up to running Doom III

It is not THAT simple, though (2, Insightful)

WARM3CH (662028) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748894)

When games announce the minimum requirements, they usually just mean a system that can just run the program but not they don't mean you can actually enjoy playing the game on such a machine. For example, Unreal Tournament 2004 minimum requirement is 256MB RAM but in practice, below 1GB you'll face paging that would slowdown the game every now and then. Now, 386MB for the minimum? That's in fact a huge requirement and I know of no other game with such a minimum requirements. If the guideline is 4 times the memory of the minimum system, that means you need something like 1.5GB RAM for a an acceptable gaming experience.

The minimum specs (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9748687)

A 1.5-gigahertz Intel Pentium 4 chip or AMD Athlon 1500.
384 megabytes of memory.
Two gigabytes of hard drive space.
An nVidia GeForce 3 graphics card or better; or an ATI Technologies 8500 or better.

First post? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9748691)

is it?

How is this news? (1)

rylin (688457) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748695)

This was posted lots of times in the latest Doom 3 thread?

Article contents (-1, Offtopic)

funkybluewombat (756750) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748697)

July 20, 2004, 8:26AM COMPUTING Gamers, check under hood because Doom 3 is coming By DWIGHT SILVERMAN Copyright 2004 Houston Chronicle If there's a gamer in your life, chances are you've noticed some strange behavior since last week. There's that glassy stare, the twitchy hands, jumpiness, maybe even a little drooling and certainly some muttering. It's what happens when id Software says "It's done!" with its latest first-person-shooter title. On Wednesday, Mesquite-based id announced that Doom 3, a much-higher-tech remake of the game that put it on the map, had gone gold. It will ship to stores Aug. 3. In the gaming world, this is no minor event. Doom 3 has been in the works for four years and is built on id co-founder and chief programmer John Carmack's latest graphics technology. Carmack's wizardry usually influences other developers, making a big impact on the future of PC gaming. And because id's titles are also released for consoles like the Sony Playstation and Microsoft's Xbox, they influence video games as well. The last new-generation engine from id was introduced with Quake 3 in 1999, and previews of Doom 3 have hinted it's an even bigger leap forward. Players will be treated to near-cinematic images as they battle demons from Hell on Mars, provided they have the right hardware. Each successive game pushes existing hardware limits, a tradition since the release of the original Doom, which introduced multiplayer death match gaming. College students in 1993 became obsessed with battling their dorm neighbors, to the point that many college networks buckled under the load. A new id game has the potential to drive sales of both components and new PCs as gamers upgrade in preparation. Hardware makers are as excited as gamers. Todd Hollenshead, id's chief executive, said Doom 3 will require: A 1.5-gigahertz Intel Pentium 4 chip or AMD Athlon 1500. 384 megabytes of memory. Two gigabytes of hard drive space. An nVidia GeForce 3 graphics card or better; or an ATI Technologies 8500 or better. If your existing rig doesn't meet these specs, here's a guide to beefing it up to play Doom 3 in all its gory glory. Graphics card. This is the best upgrade you can make for Doom 3. It's also where computer makers, looking to cut corners on mainstream systems, often wimp out. Here's hoping the PC you own doesn't have a graphics adapter that borrows memory from the main system. So-called shared graphics notoriously choke on high-end games, and most budget systems don't include an AGP slot that lets you install a better card. ATI Technologies and nVidia are the two biggest providers of graphics cards. As you move up either company's set of offerings, the results will improve. Cards at the top of the heap -- nVidia's GeForce FX and newer 6800 series, or ATI's Radeon 9800 or newer X series -- will provide the best experience and cost the most. If you're upgrading, look for at least 128 MB of video memory in a card with Direct X 9.0 capability that installs into an AGP slot. Cards in the $150 to $200 range -- such as a GeForce 5900XT or a Radeon 9600XT -- will be a sweet spot. Memory. The 384 MB minimum may trip up a lot of systems. Many mainstream PCs in the last few years have come with 128 or 256 MB of memory. If you want to play Doom 3, more memory is better. I'd recommend 512 MB, and adding up to a gigabyte would be smart. Check with the maker of your PC to see what type of memory it requires. Prices varies depending on the source and type, but use $50 per 128 MB as a benchmark. Hard drive. This is one category that may not require an upgrade at all -- just some spring cleaning on your part. If your hard drive is nearing capacity, take some time to clear off at least twice as much space as the game requires. That means you'll need at least 4 GB free. Of course, if you're down to your last few gigs, you probably should buy a new drive. Get the biggest you can afford, with at least 7,200 revolutions per minute. You'll pay in the $80 range for a 120-GB Enhanced IDE drive or around $95 for a Serial ATA model. Processor. Although this is harder to upgrade, it's key to your Doom 3 experience. The minimum may be 1.5 GHz, but you'll probably want at least a 2-GHz Intel Pentium or equivalent AMD Athlon chip. The ideal is 3 GHz or better. But if you do need a new chip, unless you take joy in swapping out a motherboard or building your own system, Doom 3 is probably as good an excuse as any to buy a new PC. dwight.silverman@chron.com / www.dwightsilverman.com

UD (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9748698)

Ultimate Doom... Need a First Post Say More?

GeForce3? (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9748699)

GeForce3? I don't believe it.

mmm (1)

relluf (722817) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748700)

Soo.. would a GF FX 5200 not be good enough?

Re:mmm (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9748848)

Probably as it performs about the same as a GeForce3 ti200 only it can support hardware directx9

Go go Kingston Hyper-X! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9748703)

Just upgraded to 1024MB, with nice cas latencies :o)

Progress? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9748704)

Original Doom version would run on anything that could run Solitaire. This is progress?

People don't care (5, Interesting)

FJ (18034) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748709)

When the first DOOM was released I had a few friends who said that needing a 486 PC just for a game was insane.

They upgraded after playing the game on someone else's PC.

But... (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9748891)

Doom was awesome because it was pretty much the only game around at that time that did what it did. It was really cool.

Now there are 2^1413123 FPS games, and it's old hat; is Doom 3 really worth it?

P.S. I don't think the system requirements are that steep; I've been able to meet them for over a year, and haven't upgraded much recently. (Just got a athlon 2400+ because the 2200+ was too hot)

eka posti1!! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9748710)

asd

Ooooh.. (5, Funny)

xenostar (746407) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748711)

Ooooh, you mean the Doom 3 interactive slide show? That sounds about right then.

last post (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9748716)

yes, been when is the linux version coming? ;)

FP (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9748717)

First post !!!!!!!

I'm ready... (1)

LearnToSpell (694184) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748722)

Except for video. Think my G400'll run it? :-P Ah well. X800, here I come!

Longhorn? (-1, Redundant)

angrist (787928) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748724)

Great, but will it run longho^H^H^H^H^H^H linu^H^H^H^H^
ah screw it

Damn (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9748725)

*kicks his 386*

Sorry, an error was made in the headline (-1, Redundant)

noidentity (188756) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748726)

It should have said "Longhorn System Requirements Revealed"

good to know... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9748727)

ive been wondering what those specs were gonna be. glad that my laptop can handle more than the minimum <(^^)>

FP?

doom3??Huh (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9748730)

Another disinteresting story gets into slashdot.

Not really all that bad (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9748731)

When you consider how smooth alll the textures and modles look in the screen shots and trailer. I mean, the game will be multi-gig in size, have large maps, and an advanced engine. Besides that, who would have any other programs running while gaming int he first place? 384 megs of ram is what my 5 year old Mac came with, sureit's not fast enough, but anyone who uses OSX, Photoshop, or any 3dmodeling or does video editing knows a gig of ram goes fast.

How much to play with uncompressed textures (1)

genner (694963) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748732)

What do you mean that video card doesn't exist yet????

Guess that Gig was the right idea... (1)

fataugie (89032) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748735)

Just built a system last fall, and you can't go wrong with a gig at these prices....now for the video card. If only they would come down to earth.

Re:Guess that Gig was the right idea... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9748779)

9800 Pro's are only 200 at Newegg...

Re:Guess that Gig was the right idea... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9748856)


Just got one yesterday (retail, ugh), but it wasn't much more than that ($300 Cdn, which is the usual translation of $200 US).

Way to go ID! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9748737)

Now all i have to do is hang a sign from my neck saying "Will code for a Radeon 9800!"

so with... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9748741)

with 1GB Ram, a Geforce 5700 256MB and an amd athlon xp 3200+ should be enough?

Very smart (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9748743)

I won't spend $3000+ just to buy a new computer. You know id, some people have a life and don't spend their savings in a computer just for one game.
They are restricting their consumer base. Very smart, very smart.

Re:Very smart (5, Insightful)

kfg (145172) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748799)

Wait a year and buy the same system used for two hundred bucks.

Sometimes patience really is a virtue.

KFG

Re:Very smart (1)

Eu4ria (110578) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748908)

But some ppl will spend that sort of money - I saw a TV show the other day that showed ppl spending $1000's a month on there pets!!! if you have the money then why not spend it on something taht you enjoy?

Too Bad (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9748744)

I guess it is time to upgrade this 486 I use to play Doom II.

Not too bad... (-1, Redundant)

stuffedmonkey (733020) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748745)

Not nearly as bad as the requirements for Longhorn!

Doesnt seem that steep (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9748746)

I would imagine that most gamers should have atleast 512 ram. This is the next gen of game engines, the systems needed should be more powerful.

I'll stick with my consoles, thanks... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9748750)

I don't need to play another FPS, no matter how good the graphics might be... I wonder if PC game developers ever gave it a thought that the reason why PC sales are shrinking due to consoles is because you don't need to worry about system requirements - every game made for PS2 works with your off-the-shelf PS2 (the only exception I can think of is FFXI, where you need to buy the hard drive addon).

P3 CPUs? (4, Insightful)

mukund (163654) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748755)

How about top-of-the-line Pentium3 CPUs? 1.5GHz definitely means a P4 or a similar Celeron, but weren't the 1.x GHz P4 cpus actually slower than high end P3 CPUs?

So I'm wondering if DOOM3 would work on a high-end P3 system as I have a dual CPU P3 system with a GeForce FX 5200 card.

Re:P3 CPUs? (2, Informative)

CaptainPinko (753849) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748871)

but didn't the P4 introduce instructions that aren't supported by the P3? Specifically the SSE2? A cutting edge game would seem to make use of those instructions...

Say NO to upgrading! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9748758)

You'll have my 486 when you pry it from my cold, dead fingers!

Geforce 3 (4, Interesting)

afidel (530433) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748759)

Is the Geforce 4 MX supported? I know that origionally Carmak wanted to require programable shaders, is that still the case, or did he relent and support the fixed function pipline that the Geforce 4 MX line inherited from the Geforce 2?

GOOAAAAL! (1)

KDR_11k (778916) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748762)

My comp is pretty much exactly the minimum spec! Athlon XP 1533MHz, 512MB RAM and a Radeon 8500. I wonder if it can REALLY be played (i.e. no drop to 1 fps) at minimum details.

AMD64 option? (3, Interesting)

Chuck Bucket (142633) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748764)

How does this equate to an AMD64 chip? I know they can run 32bit apps, but how fast would a 2Ghz AMD64 chip run Doom3 vs a new Pentium 3.2Ghz?

I still have a 1.2Gig AMD box at home with 512Megs RAM, and I want to know which upgrade path will give me better gaming (and email checking ;)) performance.

TIA

CGB

Re:AMD64 option? (1)

W2k (540424) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748912)

The Athlon 64 FX-51, at 2.2GHz, is about as fast (slightly faster generally speaking) as a Pentium 4 Extreme Edition at 3.2GHz. Which in turn is slightly faster than a "regular" 3.2GHz P4.

False information (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9748766)

These are the system requirements game shop cash registers.

I'm just glad it's not a gig of ram. (1)

kabocox (199019) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748769)

I can meet that. I'm just glad it didn't require 1 gig of RAM as the min. spec.

Re:I'm just glad it's not a gig of ram. (1)

JawFunk (722169) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748889)

Might as well stock up... Can never have too much RAM!

My new computer... (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9748771)

... should be fast enough! :-D

I just put together a gaming PC with an Athlon 2800, GeForce4 FX5500, 1G DDR3200 RAM, and an 80G 7200RPM hard drive. I mostly wanted to be able to play BF1942 with all my family, but once Doom3 comes out, I'll be able to handle it!. I just hope that it runs HL2 as well...

A Good Value (1)

MarkPNeyer (729607) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748772)

I just bought a new Graphics Card - The Radeon 9800 PRO with 256 megabytes of memory. You can snag one of these babies off of newegg.com for around $270, and it performs within a few frames per second of the 9800XT, which is still going for around $400. If you're looking to buy a new graphics card, I'd recommend this one - you get extremely nice performance out of this baby without spending a lot of dough.

Honestly, those are pretty low-end specs (4, Insightful)

beavis88 (25983) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748773)

I'm betting that playing Doom 3 on the "minimum required" system will be the easiest way to force people to upgrade their hardware.

Hell, I have 1 GB RAM and a GF4600, and I'm fully expecting the performance to be bad enough to force an upgrade on my part...

Not a problem for us geeks. (1)

Bold Marauder (673130) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748777)

Personally, even though my computer is from the dot-com era, I still have 384 megs of ram. And I'm sure I can pick up a 2.x gigahertz computer from retrobox.com for $200 (might even find one cheaper somewhere else).

Now all I have to worry about is that video card...

From the article (2, Interesting)

foidulus (743482) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748778)

If you're upgrading, look for at least 128 MB of video memory in a card with Direct X 9.0 capability that installs into an AGP slot. Cards in the $150 to $200 range -- such as a GeForce 5900XT or a Radeon 9600XT -- will be a sweet spot
I thought doom 3 used OpenGL, not Direct X
Question time: I know the mac requirements will be different, but I just bought a dual 1.8 Ghz with an FX 5200, how badly does that vid. card suck? I have no clue when it comes to these video card models...

No Geforce 4mx (1)

ttlgDaveh (798546) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748781)

Am I right to assume that as a GF3 is the minimum, then the DX7 based Geforce 4MX will not be sufficient?
If true this should be interesting, some people screamed blue murder when they discovered (after not reading the box) that Thief 3 would not run on their MX. Will ID get slammed too?

RMAed (1)

DaHat (247651) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748786)

I just mailed my Geforce FX 5900 back to the seller to have it repaired or replaced yesterday... here's hoping it gets back soon because I am not about to play D3 on my GF3 which is limping my system along now!

Ooooo (1)

essreenim (647659) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748788)

..And we already got that news days ago. In fact it was mentioned by someone in a thread yesterday. The game's not overly demanding which is good.
Interestingly it will make for a nice benchmarking standard seem as its targeted for Linux too. Together with new versions of UT etc. I expect it to be part of the default measuring tape in the battle of performance gaming between Windows and Linux.
By the way anyone interested in benchmarks for games on 64 bit O.S.' should check out this [linuxgames.com] site. Apparently Suse is the way to go. Beats Fedora and XP 64 bit version overall, and by a long way in some areas, and enen in some games! Now get moving on those drivers nVidia and ATI, especially ATI...

I'll trade... (5, Funny)

the_mad_poster (640772) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748800)

I'll trade my little brother for a Radeon 9800XT before Doom3 hits the shelves! PLEASE!

sounds great ! (1)

phreakv6 (760152) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748807)

Oh.. so they really have plans for releasing it sometime.. that sounds grrrrrrrrrrrr8.. i really beleived DOOM 3 was doomed.

Finally. (5, Interesting)

diagnosis (38691) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748808)

I feel that the world will be an overall happier place if more people have more RAM.

Frankly, even if people may not realize it, they'll be *much* better off having more than 256 MB RAM. Dell etc. are definitely not benefitting their consumers by including only 256 mb ram in these behemoth computers people buy, especially if people are looking into doing serious photo editing, and DV. And if you are running XP, how can you expect to survive with 256? This is so frustrating...

P.S. Half-life 2 requirements, Gabe Newell:

Ideally, one should have a 2.4 Ghz processor, 512 MB of RAM, and a DirectX 9 enabled graphics card to fully partake in the title. Those with less powerful components shouldn't worry about upgrading unless their system specs fall below a 1.2 Ghz processor, 256 MB of RAM, and a DirectX 7 compatible graphics card.


Of course, when HL2 game was due to be publish 25 years ago, these requirements were insane.

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What the hell (1, Flamebait)

Walkiry (698192) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748811)

>But if you do need a new chip, unless you take joy in swapping out a motherboard or building your own system, Doom 3 is probably as good an excuse as any to buy a new PC.

Who the hell wrote that, a Mac user?

You don't buy a new fucking computer, you take it down to your local computer shop and get them to upgrade it if you don't want to do it yourself.

Re:What the hell (1)

JustNiz (692889) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748919)

Depends on the computer.

Right now with all the new harware standards coming out, ( DDR2, socket 775, SATA, PCI-Express, EM64-T ) the last thing I'd want to do is pump more money into a dead-end system, especially if I'm the kind of person that likes games like Doom3.

What OS are Supported? (1)

Dareth (47614) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748815)

What OS are going to be supported by the initial release? Is the first release a dual binary with Linux / Windows version? Will DOOM 3 run on a Win98 machine with the proper hardware? Does Direct X 9.0 support Win98?

Sorry for these "lame" questions. I am a bit out of date. Guess there is no hope of this running on my kick ass Voodoo 3 3500 eh? *wink*

Video Games Drive Hardware Sales (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9748821)



Who needs a new sucky Gateway?

Now you do!

DirectX 9.0? (4, Insightful)

David Leppik (158017) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748830)

If you're upgrading, look for at least 128 MB of video memory in a card with Direct X 9.0 capability that installs into an AGP slot.
I thought Carmack was a big OpenGL fan. (Maybe the last one in the video game industry.) Why would you need DirectX for Doom? Maybe that's just shorthand for certain shared requirements, such as programmable GPU capabilities.

Re:DirectX 9.0? (5, Informative)

juuri (7678) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748851)

Capability

That's just a shorthand way of saying "we require pixel shaders".

Summary (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9748834)

First: "Doom 3 is a Big Thing(tm)"

Then the specs:

Todd Hollenshead, id's chief executive, said Doom 3 will require:

A 1.5-gigahertz Intel Pentium 4 chip or AMD Athlon 1500.
384 megabytes of memory.
Two gigabytes of hard drive space.
An nVidia GeForce 3 graphics card or better; or an ATI Technologies 8500 or better.
If your existing rig doesn't meet these specs, here's a guide to beefing it up to play Doom 3 in all its gory glory.


Then the guide:
- Graphics card: you may need a new one
- Memory: you may need more
- Hard drive: you may need more / a new one
- Processor: you may need a new one. Or a new PC.

But they do give you some price ranges...

Does not compute, BIG jump from II to III (5, Funny)

ayeco (301053) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748835)

Wait wait wait a minute, Doom II's sys reqs were:

486 processor operating at a minimum of 66MHz or any Pentium® /Athlon® processors

8 MB RAM

20 MB of uncompressed hard disk space

100MB of free hard drive space for the

Windows swap file (in addition to install space)

Seems like quite a jump for just one point.

For me and many others.. (2, Interesting)

dalamarian (741404) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748842)

If you can find a bucket for your saliva due to excessive drool, wait a few months to buy the game/upgrades. Or just buy the game and deal with turning down graphics and slightly slower gameplay. It will always save a bunch of money.

seems kind of ridiculous (1)

portscan (140282) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748843)

The article's ultimate suggestion is to buy a new PC. For this game. Seriously.

It also suggests that just getting a new processor is not enough "unless you take joy in swapping out a motherboard or building your own system." I understand that your current motherboard may not support a 1.5GHz processor, but to the uninitiated, this sounds quite scary. It makes it seem like a new motherboard is always necessary for a new processor, which is clearly not the case.

Isn't this game projected to be released on PS2, XBox, or GameCube? This would cost $100-$150, cheaper if bought used.

Those hardcore gamers who are set on a new PC will buy one anyway. Those for whom this article would be informative are being given the wrong advice.

But unlike a force hardware/Windows upgrade (2, Insightful)

Gothmolly (148874) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748845)

It will be worth it. When has Carmack ever done us wrong?

What about PowerPC? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9748847)

1.5 Ghz is for x86, what about the PPC? Whould a 1.25 Ghz G4 be enough?

I'm surprised it works with 384MB (2, Interesting)

Jarnis (266190) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748852)

384MB is so low. Lots of current games are already unplayable with high details on at 512MB. Planetside, SWG, DAOC and numerous others (tho mostly online games) are total lagfests without 1GB RAM already.

If you had asked my guess on reqs, it would've been something like 512MB, 2Ghz, GF4/Radeon9500. I'm surprised how low they actually are.

This shouldn't be considered a minimum for play (5, Insightful)

boschmorden (610937) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748857)

This should be considered a minimum for LOADING the game. I've played most of the first person shooters out there for the last few years. 256MB of RAM, or even 384MB is too little. Even with a nice graphics card your framerates will be very very low. I think if anyone wants to play and enjoy any of the games lately you'll need a minimum of 512, and even at that you'll need a gig to be comfortable. I think id is in a position where they can't raise the bar to 512 because they'd lose out on sales of people buying the game that had less. I think these people will purchase the game and realize they need more and go out and buy it.

Dang that system will almost run Longhorn (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9748859)

I can't wait for my personal copy of a DRM-build operating system...

Sure (1)

laserbeak (794029) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748863)

I love doom 3, sure, and i can't wait. But this news was the _least_ surprising, and is infact OLD NEWS, by at least 2 weeks, maybe even a month (i usually don't take too much notice with game system requirements..).

Original Doom on 386's (1)

vasqzr (619165) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748883)

Before anyone comes out and says 'Doom ran fine on my 386', I'm going to state that you need a FAST 486DX2/50 to really play Doom. A slower 486 would work as long as there were not a lot of objects on the screen, and you scaled the screen down a little...but for pause-free, fragging action, you really need a 486/66 or a fast 50mhz computer.

Such a tease! (2, Funny)

juggaleaux (725689) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748888)

I'm using a Voodoo Banshee card from 1998, you insensitive clod!

Minimum = Realistic? (2, Interesting)

Thieron (584668) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748898)

Just how good would these minimum requirements be? I've seen some software that will "run" in minimum situations, but it is really not worth a thing.

But how many people buy PCs now with only 256MB Ram? XP will run horrible on just that much. I recently bought a new PC. I got 512MB and an AMD3000+ for around $500. I could've gone with 256MB for a little less, but anything more than the cheapest PCs seem to come with more RAM now.

Does anyone have an older PC that they plan to play games on? Just how powerful will the recommended PC need to be? I personally doubt many people will be upgrading older PCs for game play. It is simpler to just buy a newer one now, as even the cheaper new ones are a siginificant jump.

Over heating (1)

Quirk (36086) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748906)

Why don't they spec the cooling system or the time it will take to turn your system into a smoldering slag heap. I run a 2.8 w/ 512 and a radeon 9200 se w/128 and can't play Halo for more than an hour without my system running up against the lower end of over heating.

Not quite there... (1)

paranoid.android (71379) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748913)

I don't suppose half a gig of RAM will make up for being 0.1 GHz short and having a GeForce 2 instead of 3...

If only I had the cash to upgrade. Stupid kid, messing with my video games!

Dual CPU support? (2, Interesting)

TheVidiot (549995) | more than 10 years ago | (#9748917)

I know it's not a popular item for games, but does anyone know if Doom3 will support dual processors?
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