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Storing Data In Cow Guts?

timothy posted more than 10 years ago | from the don't-we-all-do-this-sometimes dept.

Data Storage 294

supersandra writes "News.com reports that companies are exploring how to use molten silicon, designer molecules, and even protein globules from cows as data storage media. The media made by Nanochip using molten silicon, called ovonic media, is similar to CDs or DVDs but can store much more data because the tools for reading and writing data could potentially be 25x smaller. Nanochip demonstrated a 1-inch square chip of material that could contain a terabit of data. ZettaCore has created a complex molecule that can retain or release up to eight electrons, exhibiting a voltage level that can be read as data, and thus each molecule can represent 4 bits of data. Another company, NanoMagnetics, uses a magnetic core surrounded by animal protein, and can also achieve a terabit of data per square inch."

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got milk? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9762901)

fp

I already store my personal data in cow hide (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9762907)

me => teh 1337

Cow Protein Storage? (4, Funny)

grunt107 (739510) | more than 10 years ago | (#9762913)

And you thought DVD rot was bad!

Re:Cow Protein Storage? (2, Funny)

severoon (536737) | more than 10 years ago | (#9763027)

I would upgrade my hard drive to something with this kind of density if it weren't for the smell!

sev

Re:Cow Protein Storage? (2, Funny)

ifreakshow (613584) | more than 10 years ago | (#9763124)

Can't wait till my hard drive gets mad cow.

Re:Cow Protein Storage? (2, Funny)

nametaken (610866) | more than 10 years ago | (#9763174)


Yeah, my temperature concerns have just escalated. Looks like my future drive coolers will have to be made by Frigidaire.

Cool thing about cows (1)

Neil Blender (555885) | more than 10 years ago | (#9762918)

They come stock with a 4-way.

Storing data in protein globs? (5, Funny)

The Ultimate Fartkno (756456) | more than 10 years ago | (#9762919)



If it's anything like the data in my secret directory, I forsee an irony overload of epic proportions.

So... (3, Funny)

The-Bus (138060) | more than 10 years ago | (#9762921)

With cows having several stomachs, can you have a RAID then? How do you defragment the drives? Cowto-Bismol? And I'm saying right now I'm not gonna be the one that's going to "retrieve" the drives that aren't needed in the cow anymore.

Re:So... (1)

smclean (521851) | more than 10 years ago | (#9763183)

I'm not gonna be the one that's going to "retrieve" the drives that aren't needed in the cow anymore.
Don't you know that technology already exists to make maintainance of cow-based RAID arrays a 'snap'? pictures [google.com]

Protein Memory (2, Funny)

Mad Bad Rabbit (539142) | more than 10 years ago | (#9762922)

Great, now the places that ban USB keys as a 'security risk'
will also ban beef jerky.

Re:Protein Memory (1)

mdvlspwn99 (172473) | more than 10 years ago | (#9763001)

Better hope you never confuse your data as jerky...I'd hate to accidentally consume a year's worth of work.

Imagine a beuwolf cluster of... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9762923)

cow chips?

Ok? (2)

Comatosis (798554) | more than 10 years ago | (#9762928)

Cow Guts eh..next they will use human brains! ;)

Re:Ok? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9762980)

Humans can't remember anything, dought it would work.

Sentient meat? (3, Funny)

djh101010 (656795) | more than 10 years ago | (#9763035)

Come on, you expect me to believe that this meat can _think_?

Is this kosher? (2, Funny)

DrewMIT (98823) | more than 10 years ago | (#9762929)

anyone more familiar with kashrut than I know if this would be considered kosher? Like if an observant Jew were to handle the media would he then not be able to have a dairy meal?

This is a serious, if off topic, question. Anyone?

Re:Is this kosher? (4, Insightful)

KevinKnSC (744603) | more than 10 years ago | (#9762988)

Similarly, would these offend the Hindu belief that cows are sacred, thus ending Indian outsourcing?

Re:Is this kosher? (1, Informative)

dr_dank (472072) | more than 10 years ago | (#9763098)

You should be ok as long as you don't eat the cow drive and wash it down with a glass of milk.

Now coming soon to a McDonalds near you.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9762932)

Terabit McBurger with fries. Just 2.99!

Cow chips (1)

stanmann (602645) | more than 10 years ago | (#9762934)

There is a joke here about cow chips vs Mod chips vs micro chips, but I can't find it.

Guess I'll have to look for a computer that uses one of them there cow chips for storage now.

Re:Cow chips (2, Funny)

The Ultimate Fartkno (756456) | more than 10 years ago | (#9763141)


> There is a joke here about cow chips

I'll give it a shot.

"Dude, what's that smell?"

"My system just had a core dump!"

Next-generation storage for old generation RPGs... (3, Funny)

b0r0din (304712) | more than 10 years ago | (#9762936)

Running a MOO will never be the same.

Pouring molten silicon into a cow? (1)

spun (1352) | more than 10 years ago | (#9762937)

That's despicable! How could they even... Oh. Okay, I read the rest of the article.
[Roseanne Roseannadanna voice] Never mind!

Re:Pouring molten silicon into a cow? (2, Funny)

dexter riley (556126) | more than 10 years ago | (#9763190)

You mean [Emily Litella voice]. You should use your [Roseanne Roseannadanana voice] for when you're installing some of this new cow memory into a computer, and you get a itty-bitty glob of cow protein stuck on your fingers! So you try to flick it off the end of your finger, but it just stays there! So you keep flicking it and flicking it, and then you try rolling it around and around on your fingers, and it's just hanging there, and you're looking at this little fleck of cow guts on your finger, and you get so sick to your stomach, that you think you're gonna DIE!

Thank Goodness! (1)

ZagNuts (789429) | more than 10 years ago | (#9762938)

Now a single cow can cover all of the basic food groups: meat, milk, and data!

Mad Cow Disease!?! (1)

graveyardduckx (735761) | more than 10 years ago | (#9762945)

Oh great, first it was hamburgers we had to worry about, now it's hardware.

k-zed (1)

k-zed (92087) | more than 10 years ago | (#9762946)

Eight electrons.. If we have eight possible voltage levels, that's 3 bits of data, not 4 (although more accurately with eight electrons you would have nine levels)

Re:k-zed (1)

b0r0din (304712) | more than 10 years ago | (#9762984)

The fourth bit is reserved for the cow's mouth.

Inaccurate reporting (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9763107)

According to ZettaCore's web site [zettacore.com] , each molecule has four states (two bits), not four bits.

Re:k-zed (2, Informative)

James Turpin (789479) | more than 10 years ago | (#9763151)

They might mean that it can vary between -8 and +8 inclusive, which gives 17 states, {-8,-7,-6,-5,-4,-3,-2,-1,0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8}. You need 16 states for 4 bits, so that would do it. Or maybe you could take advantage of the 17th state by storing data in base-17 rather than hexadecimal - but thats just weird and would require processing to convert. Unfortunately, this will liekly lead to multiple formats depending on how the 17 possible states are mapped to the 16 hexadecimal digits, or whether all 17 states are in fact used to achieve maximum data compression.

And you wondered (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9762950)

And you wondered why Gateway had the cow thing going? See they knew about this a long time ago!

(Although I think they are using different biological materials from the rectum for their parts. :) )

Cows Worthless (1)

tbigity (749784) | more than 10 years ago | (#9762955)

Finally...cows can contribute to the good of man! I mean, granted, beef, leather, pleasant odors etc., but now: BOVINES, THE UNGULATE OF THE FUTURE!

This is not funny because... (0, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9762956)

cows are sacred animals.

Re:This is not funny because... (1)

RetroGeek (206522) | more than 10 years ago | (#9762971)

You mispelled scared

Re:This is not funny because... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9763074)

whatever dude

I'm not liking this. (4, Funny)

djh101010 (656795) | more than 10 years ago | (#9762957)

Makes the whole concept of a "data dump" a lot less appealing.

:: ducks :: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9762958)

Hum. This is udderly rediculous.

Please mod me funny. Blatant humor is all I know.

Re::: ducks :: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9763016)

Hum. This is udderly rediculous.

You must be moo here.

EARLY POSTAGE IS MINE (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9762960)

This ship comes Apart!

ovonic media? (1)

camusflage (65105) | more than 10 years ago | (#9762961)

According to the article, it's ovonic media. If you're using cow protein globules, wouldn't that be bovinic media??

iCowPod? (1)

Klar (522420) | more than 10 years ago | (#9762964)

Will apple use this to make crazy iPod's... humm or maybe Gateway should cause they have the whole cow thing going on anyways. 1 terabit of data per square inch could translate into several mp3 files...

Mahler (1)

Al Dimond (792444) | more than 10 years ago | (#9763182)

Or, in the case that you listen to Mahler, maybe half of an mp3 file.

New Intel Commercials (1)

ArmenTanzarian (210418) | more than 10 years ago | (#9762965)

EET MOR CHIKIN

or rather, "EET MOR KOW" until they buy those guys out.

Re:New Intel Commercials (1)

Dr Caleb (121505) | more than 10 years ago | (#9763053)

EET MOR KOW

Until the cows wise up and start wearing fake pig masks. Imagine a whole field of cows looking like this going "OINK. OINK OINK." and looking around to see if anyone notices.

Well (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9762968)

I prefer my cows to store steaks.

Hmm... (1)

JoeLinux (20366) | more than 10 years ago | (#9762969)

mount /dev/moo? I think I saw a webpage about that once..

Re:Hmm... (1)

Sepper (524857) | more than 10 years ago | (#9763159)

<quote>I think I saw a webpage about that once...</quote>

Must have been:
_________
< cowsay! >
---------
\ ^__^
\ (oo)\_______
(__)\ )\/\
||----w |
|| ||

And I'm Sure it had super Cow powers.. Moo!

Cow Guts Raid (1)

pt99par (588458) | more than 10 years ago | (#9762970)

Since cows have 7 stomacks maybe a cow gut raid would bring faster or more reliable cowgut storage

Re:Cow Guts Raid (1)

belg4mit (152620) | more than 10 years ago | (#9763003)

4! Ruminants have (3 or) 4 compartments in their stomach.

Re:Cow Guts Raid (1)

pt99par (588458) | more than 10 years ago | (#9763060)

Well maybe an upgrade to 7 stomachs wold be a good alternative.. it has not happen very much on the cow storage front for a couple of years

Mhhh... menudo.... (1)

MannyO (649725) | more than 10 years ago | (#9762977)

...and to think I eat at least a couple GB of menudo every sunday morning.... ;)

I know.... (1)

Kickstart70 (531316) | more than 10 years ago | (#9762978)

....Let's store the data in self-replicating prions!

Then "Mad Cow" becomes a Good Thing!

Oblig. Simpsons Quote.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9762982)

And I for one welcome our new cow protein overlords. I'd like to remind them that as a trusted television personality, I can be useful in rounding up others to work in their cow guts.

Re:Oblig. Simpsons Quote.... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9763022)

Too bad it's not pig gut...

Homer: Are you saying you're never going to eat any animal again? What about bacon?
Lisa: No.
Homer: Ham?
Lisa: No.
Homer: Pork chops?
Lisa: Dad, those all come from the same animal!
Homer: Heh heh heh. Oh, yeah right, Lisa. A wonderful, magical animal.

Outsource (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9762992)

I guarantee you that this will be not outsourced. Anything to do with cows and it's not going to India!

I can't bear to watch (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9762994)

I just don't know if I can take all the puns that are going to be posted. My friends sometimes get into this routine where they do cow puns, and it almost makes me cry, it's so bad.

You know how it will go. The tech will be udderly fantastic and people will say they want to moove their data to it, or that they herd Microsoft will milk it for all it's worth, and so on. It's so stupid, and it grates on my soul.

Yes, (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9762999)

But how does this bash microsloth or worship apple?

Confused Slashbot.

Hey, baby... (1)

dhakbar (783117) | more than 10 years ago | (#9763004)

You wanna get some information from my protein globs? Make use of that pretty mouth of yours...

Acronym's for this new techology (1)

TXP (592446) | more than 10 years ago | (#9763007)

Two acroynm's that come to mind are:

MB = MooMoo Bulls
HDD = Heffer Disk Drive

Walk into Byte Burger... (1)

suso (153703) | more than 10 years ago | (#9763020)

I can see it now.
I'll have a 5 terabyte burger, large fries and a coke.

Ancient Tech! (4, Funny)

MooseByte (751829) | more than 10 years ago | (#9763021)


Feh! The Sumerians were reading goat entrails [killer-essays.com] for information ages before this came along.

My Proposed Cow-Gut Storage product name: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9763026)

iMenudo

not quite that many bits. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9763032)

ZettaCore has created a complex molecule that can retain or release up to eight electrons, exhibiting a voltage level that can be read as data, and thus each molecule can represent 4 bits of data.

2^4 = 16
2^3 = 8

looks like its only 3 bits of data. need to get bigger molecules so we can have hex molecules rather then just oct molecules.

Uh oh! (5, Funny)

cinderful (586168) | more than 10 years ago | (#9763033)

Vegans are gonna be forced to use slower, less compatible soy-protein alternatives.

Moof! (1)

rharder (218037) | more than 10 years ago | (#9763034)

Sorry, prior art. Apple already has dogcow, a computer-cow hybrid. I'm sure the USPTO will grant a post facto patent for all bovine-bit business.

Beef... (1)

theJerk242 (778433) | more than 10 years ago | (#9763046)

even protein globules from cows as data storage media.

...is what for storage.

Interesting stuff... (2, Interesting)

Arcanix (140337) | more than 10 years ago | (#9763048)

But if you notice only the carbon nanotube idea at the end seems to offer a speed increase which is what we really need. Tons of storage is great but until HDs start increasing in speed significantly they will remain the primary bottleneck in most systems.

In case anyone is wondering... (1)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 10 years ago | (#9763051)

...this is pretty much the type of research a computer scientist does. So if you're thinking of going for your PHD in CompSci, just consider for a moment whether you REALLY want to be combining the math of CompSci, with the Molecular Biology of cow guts.

Re:In case anyone is wondering... (2, Funny)

MooseByte (751829) | more than 10 years ago | (#9763139)


"So if you're thinking of going for your PHD in CompSci, just consider for a moment whether you REALLY want to be combining the math of CompSci, with the Molecular Biology of cow guts."

Instead you can focus on your undergrad CS degree and go straight to combining the long hours of development with the endless bullshit from middle management. :-)

Not as impressive... (3, Informative)

Roguelazer (606927) | more than 10 years ago | (#9763055)

I was really impressed until I saw that it said "terabit". As in 1/8 of a terabyte. Which isn't a terrible lot...

1 terabit = 2^40 bits = 1099511627776 bits
1 terabyte = (2^40) * 8 bits = 8796093022208 bits

:(

Re:Not as impressive... (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9763114)

It's still 128 gigs... Thats a good deal in my book.

1099511627776 bits = 137438953472 bytes = 134217728 kilobytes = 131072 megabytes = 128 gigabytes.

Mad cow (1)

mind21_98 (18647) | more than 10 years ago | (#9763057)

I dunno. If the material came from a cow with BSE, the chips might start randomly losing data. ;)

Fisher Price's new update to See 'n Says... (2, Funny)

shik0me (235948) | more than 10 years ago | (#9763063)

"The cow says 011011010110111101101111!"

xb/s (2, Insightful)

kulakovich (580584) | more than 10 years ago | (#9763068)


achieve a terabit of data per square inch.

yeah. and transfer speeds approaching 1b/sec.

Any idea how slowly RNA encodes a datastream? It ain't quick.

kulakovich

NetBSD!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9763076)

I give it a year before NetBSD is running on cows!!

Sweeeet.

bovonics? (1)

techmuse (160085) | more than 10 years ago | (#9763077)

Wouldn't that be "bovonics"? Or perhaps Bovinics?

Next thing you know... (1)

Chatmag (646500) | more than 10 years ago | (#9763079)

AOL will be giving out free sign up discs, disguised as Big Macs.

I can see it now... (1)

Mr. Bad Example (31092) | more than 10 years ago | (#9763085)

"My new protein storage module doesn't work with my machine."

"Driver conflict?"

"No, lactose intolerance."

Also, regarding the terabit-on-a-chip:

"Nobody move. Help me look on the floor here..."

"Contact lens?"

"No, the Library of Congress."

Warning: Terrible Puns Ahead (1)

PedanticSpellingTrol (746300) | more than 10 years ago | (#9763091)

Maybe now Gateway really can make cowculators. What, you've got beef with my joke? Maybe we can take the bull by the horns and steer this conversation in another direction.

Time for More "Where's the Beef Comericials" (1)

drxs3v3n (790522) | more than 10 years ago | (#9763096)

This time featureing
Bill Gates
and the technology that had to come
for his longhorn to run
now it can run on real longhorn cow guts

YIPEEE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

read about longhorn system requirements
you will understand

mod 04 (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9763100)

Holy Cow!! (1)

$la$hcreep (798987) | more than 10 years ago | (#9763113)

You can be sure this work will never get outsourced to India.

I'm a PETA member, you insensitive clod! (1)

theMerovingian (722983) | more than 10 years ago | (#9763128)


Cow guts are inhumane...

use NAUGAHYDE [naugahyde.com] instead.

I've never heard of such tripe! (1)

OhHellWithIt (756826) | more than 10 years ago | (#9763137)

Does this mean that in addition to having some script kiddie scramble my storage, I'm going to have to worry about mad cow disease, too?

Forget it, I'm becoming a vegetarian again!

Wouldn't it be cool if in the future... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9763142)

...all of Tucows could be stored in 2 cows.

cow chips (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9763149)

the people of india were right all along ...

Associated new product (1)

be951 (772934) | more than 10 years ago | (#9763153)

Norton Anti-prion.

Now we know what aliens want from cows! (1)

ergean (582285) | more than 10 years ago | (#9763164)

The secret is out.
I bet that they didn't want all the media hipe about cow mutilations, so now they use a human corporation as a shield for their operations.

Moohhhhaahhhhaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A new meaning for an existing acronyms (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9763165)

BSD = Bovine Storage Device

FCailzoRs!! (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9763175)

'You see, even you loved that departures of Fact: *BSD is dying it racist for a OF AMERICA irc arseholes at Walnut Was in the tea I

Oh Great... (1)

spoonboy42 (146048) | more than 10 years ago | (#9763177)

Here I thought that computing was a hobby that was compatible with my vegetarianism (unlike, say, my Dad's deer hunting). Guess I'll have to switch to underwater basket weaving.

Too many comebacks (1)

UnknowingFool (672806) | more than 10 years ago | (#9763178)

Storing Data In Cow Guts?

Must . . . resist . . . snide remark. Must . . . talk like . . . Shatner

So.. (1)

NanoGator (522640) | more than 10 years ago | (#9763186)

... would my dog eating my homework be prior art? If so, I wish that had really happened.

Wait for it... (1)

Obiwan Kenobi (32807) | more than 10 years ago | (#9763187)

With these new innovations, when you tell the support guy your computer is sick, you're not just jokin around!

*dodges tomatoes*

Thank you, thank you. I'm here all week folks. Who's from Milwaukee?

Another Brilliant Idea? (1)

NoelWeb (797393) | more than 10 years ago | (#9763191)

There is no doubt that right after Al Gore invented the internet, this was his next idea.

WOW! Gives a whole new meaning to Computer Virus (1)

jameskojiro (705701) | more than 10 years ago | (#9763194)

Just imaging, burning a new data disc now has the risk of giving you Mad Cow disease!

MOOOOOOOOO!!!

Gary Larson was right, Cows are EVIL!!!!!

Where Have I... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9763195)

Using cow guts to store data? Where have I heard about this before?

...cow guts...to store...


AH HA! I know. It's Microsoft's new file system. It's to go with their next release of Windows...appropriately named Longhorn.

Now if only we can use the proteins of humans... (1)

jakel2k (736582) | more than 10 years ago | (#9763211)

Oh... the flood of jokes ^H^H^H^H^H^H^H ideas...

I'll call the chips Solent Green (White)

This will revolutionize the p0rn industry and the mass storage industry.

Mass Storage industry will be in bed with the p0rn industy

Finally people can recycle the tissues in the basket by the computer.

Sperm banks will no longer have a monopoly.

Prostitiution will be legalized to harvest raw materials.

  1. Collect human extract
  2. ??? << Make storage devices
  3. profit!!!
Where do the jokes end? -- brain buffer overrun

Will it run under Windows? (3, Funny)

WormholeFiend (674934) | more than 10 years ago | (#9763223)

When I visited the Veterinarian Dept. of a local university, I was shown a cow with a window on its side.

Students could open the window at their convenience to check the insides of the cow.

Ugh.
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