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Wrap-up On The Ottawa Linux Symposium

Hemos posted more than 10 years ago | from the great-conference dept.

Linux 94

Joe Barr writes "David Graham wraps up his coverage of the Ottawa Linux Symposium with this report on Day 4, including the closing keynote address by Andrew Morton. If you've been turned off by the commercialism of LWCE the past couple of years, you might find the OLS to be breath of fresh air. Our fearless reporter has provided detailed, behind-the-headlines coverage each day of the event."

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Good convention, eh (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9801723)

Drank lots of beer, and talked aboot loonix a lot.

That's Linoox, not Loonix (-1, Troll)

Tim_F (12524) | more than 10 years ago | (#9801735)

n/t

FP?? (-1, Offtopic)

jeepmeister (241971) | more than 10 years ago | (#9801731)

Naw, probably not, but what the heck?

SCOX! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9801732)

suxs
coxs

LOL!

"$108 - $135" not "108$ - 135$" fools

dip! DOP! DOPE!

Muslims are violent (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9801733)

Aren't Muslims violent?

Re:Muslims are violent (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9801751)

no, they're not all violent... just about 5-10% - so that's only 50-100 million

nothing to be afraid of

Threshold 1:0 comments (-1, Offtopic)

phyruxus (72649) | more than 10 years ago | (#9801760)

Threshold 1:0 comments.... must ... get .. first... post....

(-1, offtopic)

Canada and Linux? (0, Flamebait)

Prince Vegeta SSJ4 (718736) | more than 10 years ago | (#9801776)

Waitaminit, ok Canada supporting Military deserters (aid and comfort). And now is hosting a Linux Symposium, everyone knows Linux is a Threat to National Security [linuxinsider.com] .

Surely they have WMD's [globalsecurity.org]

Sounds to me that it is time for Canada to be LIBERATED

calm down people it was meant to be a joke.

Re:Canada and Linux? (-1, Troll)

strictnein (318940) | more than 10 years ago | (#9801789)

over 50% of Americans think we should annex Canada. So... sounds like it's a go!

Re:Canada and Linux? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9801811)

Americans wouldn't want to do anything that might mean owning Quebec.

Re:Canada and Linux? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9801848)

Besides... The UK is gonna be the 51st State

Re:Canada and Linux? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9801836)

Sounds to me that it is time for Canada to be LIBERATED

LMAO... They said.. Russia did not understand how to run communism.. They shd have looked at Canada... Are u looking for new definition of Open Source ..;)

Yeah OTtawa (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9801798)

GO GO 613!!! we Rulez your LiniX Kernel.org!!! w000ttt GO RENS GO!!!! RENS ARE GONNA TAKE IT THIS YEAR PPL!!! hahaha woodroffe and richmond, i see y'all! Linux loading on them carlingwood courtesy PCs, shoutouts to knoppix, 613 linux crew!

Re:Yeah OTtawa (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9801969)

Oh, shut the fuck up.

Behind the headlines coverage? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9801844)

Did I miss the headline coverage that his is behind? Canadian Bear wrestles Linux Penguin at the Hart Dungeon? Rematch scheduled for the Saddledome?

Any LTT News (1)

HidingMyName (669183) | more than 10 years ago | (#9801858)

The Linux Trace Toolkit (LTT) is a neat kernel debugging tool, however, it hasn't been able to get inclusion into the main kernel source tree. I'd like to ask if there was any buzz about LTT during the conference and if there is any sense about whether LTT is likely to get included into the source tree or not any time soon?

Re:Any LTT News (1)

Samrobb (12731) | more than 10 years ago | (#9803099)

I didn't really hear anything about LTT - then again, I kind of focused on topics more relevant to embedded systems development. There may have been some mention of LTT in the talks on the more high-end enterprise systems stuff.

Re:Any LTT News (1)

Vector Meson (84092) | more than 10 years ago | (#9808018)

I talked to Karim Yaghmour about getting LTT into the kernel. He said that the kernel folks didn't think there was enough demand from the community and that if you want it in the kernel, post to lkml explaining why. There was a nice session on relayfs but again, the claim was that netlink mostly does the job. Well according to the developers not really but rather than introduce relayfs, folks were encouraged to merge features into netlink.

Re:Any LTT News (1)

Tough Love (215404) | more than 10 years ago | (#9808008)

Work was done on getting LTT in shape for merging, in the hallway BOFs. It's progress, but remember, Linus doesn't give a rat's fuzzy rear end about realtime support or trace tools. So the standard for merging is that much higher.

Ottawa Linux Symposium (5, Informative)

static0verdrive (776495) | more than 10 years ago | (#9801863)

It's too bad the symposium is so expensive; they have often had very interesting people and interesting seminars.

The funny part is half the people who do go are your average slashdot reader-types from outside Canada, so when the daily drinking begins, it only takes two hours for their frail geek-bodies to become overboard drunk! Luckily our Ottawa LUG practices year-round with a meet at the bar after each LUG meeting...

Re:Ottawa Linux Symposium (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9802034)

It's too bad the symposium is so expensive

Don't worry, it's in Canadian Dollars, so the actual amount would have been ~$1.50USD or so :o)

(Disclaimer: I am Canadian. :o)

Re:Ottawa Linux Symposium (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9803378)

You're Canadian? Then you should know how fucking lame those currency jokes are getting. Really - not funny anymore... ... ...

Still not funny.

Re:Ottawa Linux Symposium (1)

WormholeFiend (674934) | more than 10 years ago | (#9802125)

Events of all types are expensive in Ottawa... which is weird considering that, even though we're the national capital, we're not that big.

A friend of mine thinks it's due to a local, small "old boys" network who own most of the venues and real estate and jack up the prices together whenever they feel like it.

It's insane, I tell ya.

Re:Ottawa Linux Symposium (1)

Sepper (524857) | more than 10 years ago | (#9802517)

Then, why don't they do it in Montreal or Toronto? Bigger cities mean better access with possible lower priced rentals, Hotels, trains, planes, bus, pubs, clubs, etc..

Was there a particular reason why it's in Ottawa?

Re:Ottawa Linux Symposium (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9802547)

Ottawa is the number one hi tech capital of Canada. It's called silcon valley north by the industry people here.

Re:Ottawa Linux Symposium (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9802691)

"Ottawa is the number one hi tech capital of Canada."

That is a load of crap. Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver are all over double the size of Ottawa and have way more tech jobs and interest groups. God knows why Ottawa is the capital of the country because it is so small and virtually irrelevant to the majority of the country. Toronto, Vancouver or Montreal should be considered as the real capital.

Re:Ottawa Linux Symposium (1)

Brando_Calrisean (755640) | more than 10 years ago | (#9803102)

It's because the Parliament buildings are here.

Duh.

Re:Ottawa Linux Symposium (1)

Jorkapp (684095) | more than 10 years ago | (#9875777)

Actually, the reason Ottawa is the capital is namely because the Queen (at the time) said so. Ottawa was chosen by the Queen for 3 reasons:

  • Its right between Toronto and Montreal, and right on the Ontario/Quebec border. No hard feelings since its neither in Toronto or Montreal.
  • Ottawa had a booming lumber industry - at least at the time.
  • Its pretty far up north. They figured if the americans were to invade, they would get lost in the woods on the way up. * **

* Its a 6 hour train ride from Toronto - a fair distance by foot. Since the decision was made before automobiles were the de facto mode of transport and horses/on foot was pretty standard, getting to Ottawa would take a damn long time.

** Funny. 100 years ago we assumed the americans were dumb. Seems little changes over 100 years.

Re:Ottawa Linux Symposium (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9881402)

...and right on the Ontario/Quebec border. No hard feelings since its neither in Toronto or Montreal...
...Seems little changes over 100 years.


Like how we're still bending over and lubing up for Quebec and all things francophone?

Re:Ottawa Linux Symposium (1)

static0verdrive (776495) | more than 10 years ago | (#9805367)

You've just GOTTA be from Toronto with that attitude. There are actually IT companies' massive buildings around Kanata that take up almost as much room as the rest of the city of Ottawa. Sure, those bigger cities (population-wise) have lots of industry and take up more space, but Ottawa has a larger IT company ratio when compared to other types of industry in the Ottawa-Carleton region. (It is the capital because that's where all the government stuff happens, which is unrelated anyway.)

Do research before trolling slashdot, or don't post anonymously so we can have a mature off-topic conversation elsewhere.

Re:Ottawa Linux Symposium (1)

Vic (6867) | more than 10 years ago | (#9803458)

IMHO, this event is *NOT* expensive. $325 ($199 students) is waaaay cheap for a 4-day techincal conference. Compare that to any sort of SANS conference, or others....

For the people who questioned Ottawa as a venue: Well, there are several reasons: There are many people who will not travel to the USA. Ottawa is also cheaper than Toronto, Montreal, and other bigger cities. Everyone I've spoken to at OLS seems to really like it here.

Cheers,
Vic

Re:Ottawa Linux Symposium (1)

static0verdrive (776495) | more than 10 years ago | (#9805440)

You're bang on. It isn't expensive if your job covers it or you plan to attend most (or all) of it, but if you just want to hang out and catch a session or two, it is expensive, which was my first implication.

As for Ottawa, I think it gives tourists a nicer impression of Canada than other cities would (I feel Ottawa is one of our cleanest and most bilingual cities) and social (read: drinking) spots are nearby, as well as touristy spots like the parliment, etc.

Re:Ottawa Linux Symposium (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9808117)


As for Ottawa, I think it gives tourists a nicer impression of Canada than other cities would (I feel Ottawa is one of our cleanest and most bilingual cities) and social (read: drinking) spots are nearby, as well as touristy spots like the parliment, etc.


Though I generally won't disagree, the panhandlers are a tad annoying. The other thing I noticed is that their numbers are slowly increasing over the years. You might want to have that checked.

First job on the agenda? (3, Funny)

The Ultimate Fartkno (756456) | more than 10 years ago | (#9801884)


Immediately upgrade all pc's at DeGrassi to Linux. Result? J.T. reaches new heights of nerd-dom, Emma now gets to argue with Snake over which distro to use, and Marco will become more alternative than ever. However, Paige remains bitchy and sticks to Windows out of spite.

Re:First job on the agenda? (1)

EulerX07 (314098) | more than 10 years ago | (#9802912)

So you're telling me Marco is gonna use FreeBSD?

Re:First job on the agenda? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9804340)

The fact that I understood what you were referring to [wikipedia.org] makes me feel gay.

Symposium? (0, Offtopic)

isorox (205688) | more than 10 years ago | (#9801903)

I love symposia!

MOD UP FUTURAMA LOVERS! (1)

michael path (94586) | more than 10 years ago | (#9802104)

It's a symposium, people. How can that be offtopic?

LSB (5, Interesting)

Zorilla (791636) | more than 10 years ago | (#9801910)

Linux Standard Base is something mentioned in the speech, and it does seem to be something that could help remedy the current spaghetti that is the file structure. With the ever-changing library names, the symlinks start to pile up.

Probably not as related, but have you ever taken a look at the /dev directory? Each distro seems to have their own way of organizing devices. Of course, instead of making things neater, you end up with the new way of organizing it plus symlinks to all the old ones as well.

Browsing files seems to be what makes Linux difficult for me. Cleaning things up ought to make things much easier (even compared to Windows)

Re:LSB (2, Insightful)

Short Circuit (52384) | more than 10 years ago | (#9801963)

Just because your distribution organized your /dev directory one way doesn't mean you have to keep it like that. Use udev to organize it however you want.

The reason some sistems will have both /dev/hda and /dev/ide/disk0 is because not all tools recognize anything other than the original naming scheme. And not all users, either.

Re:LSB (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9802539)

I can't believe I posted that.

s/sistems/systems/

--SC

Re:LSB (1)

hey (83763) | more than 10 years ago | (#9802174)

Any can't the programs just go in C:\Program Files ;-)

Re:LSB (1)

Al Dimond (792444) | more than 10 years ago | (#9804268)

HEY! My (work) Windows box has no C:\! Only E:\! You insensitive clod!

($DIETY willing, this breaks viruses as frequently as it breaks program installs)

Re:LSB (1)

oliverthered (187439) | more than 10 years ago | (#9803277)

Well, it depends on how you tell the deamons and kernel drivers to do it.

Take a look in /proc, there's a lot of differance there too.

I'm more worried about the mess in the /etc
directory and the whole /usr /usr/local /opt problems.

Gentoo try to fix runlevels /etc/runlevels
not /etc/rc.d
But the first time I tried to boot single user it too an age to work out that I should use gentoo's linux single run level not linux 1 like everything else.

I would really like something that put init scripts into a dependancy tree so that I could start several at once and get my boot times down to something sensible. suggestions anyone?

Gentoo's init.d scripts are weird too, and can be a pain, but this helps put the configuration is in the non-standard /etc/conf.d (good move).

Logging and log rotation is also different between discributions.

Re:LSB (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9808992)

Each distro seems to have their own way of organizing devices.

"its own way". ("Each" is singular.)

Re:LSB (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9809323)

Oops. I'm a basic grammar Nazi as well. I'm surprised I didn't pick that one up. ( <-- Dangling participle?)

-Zorilla

Re:LSB (1)

iantri (687643) | more than 10 years ago | (#9814579)

It is odd that you would say this since /dev is actually quite standard..

There is the legacy way (each possible device has a file in /dev, which sucks, badly, when you get into the sheer number of modern devices there are), and the devfs way (where devices are intelligently added to a filepath like /dev/ide/bus0).

Most distros now (except probably Debian) use devfs (as it is a major part of 2.6) with symlinks to the old-fashioned device names (For backwards-compatibility).

Google doesn't work (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9801918)

Try to search Google, you'll get a 503 server error.

I was disappointed (5, Insightful)

Ron Harwood (136613) | more than 10 years ago | (#9801934)

The symposium just wasn't as good as last year.

The schedule came out late - by the time I received it, I'd already booked my travel arrangements - and ended up missing the keynote and some sessions that I would have liked to go to.

The only sponsored session was snacks/drinks... and listening to an author talk about his (non-technical) books for what seemed like an eternity.

The wireless network - while steady and up this year - had a crap-ass interenet connection that was less stable than a fainting goat [webworksltd.com] .

All in all - the conference seemed haphazardly organized and last minute.

Re:I was disappointed (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9802244)

I can't believe I just clicked a link that had the word "goat" in it!

Re:I was disappointed (1)

Ron Harwood (136613) | more than 10 years ago | (#9802843)

yeah yeah... but it was safe.

here's another that's safe for you: Goats: the comic [goats.com] .

Re:I was disappointed (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9807344)

Insightful, my ass. If you really care about these things, then write to the organizer and tell them in a coherent way exactly what you didn't like and why. Whining about it on slashdot ain't going to change anything.

I wanted to go but... (1)

tyrani (166937) | more than 10 years ago | (#9801936)

It would have been great to go. However, it was too expensive for me to go. I asked my boss, but with our predominately Windows network, it was tough. Even my "but our mail servers run linux" rebuttal didn't justify the expensive cost. My boss did say that I could have the day off with pay to go, but they didn't have the money to pay for the conference.

Looking back on it, I think that they made the right choice not to let me go. The company likes linux because it is cheap and works very well. However, sending me on a conference where nothing new was presented only a discussion on older ideas may not have been cost effective.

Re:I wanted to go but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9802094)

on story selection and acceptions.

Now you know why you shouldn't have rejected that invite to join the "stonecutters".

Remember this one from the back pages of mags like popular mechanics?

The Crustaceans what secret does that lobster possess?

GPL violations discussion at OLS (4, Interesting)

manavendra (688020) | more than 10 years ago | (#9802039)

This report has some coverage of the discussions for fighting GPL violations.

Interesting case in point made by Herald Welte that "If a company violates the GPL and negotiates with the FSF to stop, by the time they agree to stop the product is done and they're gone on to the next one -- which could also violate the GPL. Then they can go through the whole process again without really losing much. ".

What I'd like to know is, if there are any steps to identify GPL violations? There are companies all over the world using and modifying OSS tools (most notably from the Apache foundation) and selling them (or selling them as part of their product suites). Is there any initiative to counter this?

Re:GPL violations discussion at OLS (1)

aka-ed (459608) | more than 10 years ago | (#9802081)

The stuff you are quoting is about the "inititiatove to counter this," out of the Free Software Foundation. [gnu.org] However, I suspect much of the elbow grease needed for such efforts is currently directed toward fighting new patent legislation. An understandable priority.

Re:GPL violations discussion at OLS (1)

aka-ed (459608) | more than 10 years ago | (#9802115)

Here's the FSF link for reporting violations [gnu.org] . I doubt that there is very much manpower at the other end of that email address, though.

Re:GPL violations discussion at OLS (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9802147)

What I'd like to know is, if there are any steps to identify GPL violations? There are companies all over the world using and modifying OSS tools (most notably from the Apache foundation) and selling them (or selling them as part of their product suites). Is there any initiative to counter this?

The Apache license isn't GPL, although it is compatible with it. [apache.org]

Re:GPL violations discussion at OLS (2, Informative)

Al Dimond (792444) | more than 10 years ago | (#9804348)

Isn't the apache license non-copyleft?

And there's nothing wrong with selling GPL apps as long as you make the source available.

From someone who attended OLS this year (2, Funny)

Dan Aloni (584167) | more than 10 years ago | (#9802045)

For me, one of the most rememberable moments was watching Alan Cox and another guy whose name I've haven't noticed, playing an identify-the-os game with the KDE BSOD screen saver. :)

Re:From someone who attended OLS this year (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9802555)

think it was hugh daniels or something like that

ebay has been hacked. --Urgent! (-1, Offtopic)

pHaze (19163) | more than 10 years ago | (#9802046)

http://www.news24.com/News24/South_Africa/News/0,, 2-7-1442_1563327,00.html

400,000 credit cards have been compromized, including CCV numbers on the back. eBay is saying nothing and the only reason I found out about this is because I live in South Africa and they mentioned it on the radio. I've submitted a story, but just thought I'd try to get this out there so you can start cancelling cards.

MOD PARENT UP (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9802120)

Come on editors, post a link to a legit story like this one.

If Ebay's account database being compromised is not "Stuff That Matters" more than some convention, I don't know what is.

Re:MOD PARENT UP (0, Offtopic)

pHaze (19163) | more than 10 years ago | (#9802159)

Mod this up NOW! [google.com]

Re:MOD PARENT UP (0, Offtopic)

aka-ed (459608) | more than 10 years ago | (#9802270)

I don't know whether the three of you are crooked or just gullible, but this appears to be a Phishing scam, reasons being:
  • "419" scams do not involve stealing databases; they exist on a much lower level of technical sophistication.
  • How do you learn that 419ers are behind the theft, without learning enough to bust them?
  • the "news story" links to a site that requests you enter your credit card number

Re:MOD PARENT UP (0, Offtopic)

aka-ed (459608) | more than 10 years ago | (#9802367)

One more clincher:

How can the supposed police website [commercialbranch.com] have a copy of the "stolen database?"

Re:MOD PARENT UP (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9806369)

To the a-hole who modded me down: if you see a mugging on the street, you don't say anything? Or do you think /. users are so brilliant that none will fall for this? Or do you just think people that stupid deserved to be ripped off?

Any way it's sliced, you are still an asshole.

Re:MOD PARENT UP (0, Troll)

webmosher (322834) | more than 10 years ago | (#9802564)

From ze article:

"The strangest thing is that I am not getting any reaction about the hacking from eBay, despite repeated attempts. Agents of the SSS [American Secret Security Service] visited eBay, but they also complained that they could not get any information from them."

Do we imply that the SSS is relavent to the actual Secret Service and now investigates commercial fraud and theft? If we imply SSS is the secret service, what is a domestic agency that is vested with the pursuit of counterfeiters and executive branch security doing in this jurisdiction?

If the SSS is some other agency, what exactly is this? A commercial security agency? A police agency?

This whole article stinks of phish.

Re:MOD PARENT UP (1)

boudie (704942) | more than 10 years ago | (#9802861)

"Oh No! And I gave them my VISA card number! And now I can't find the number of the Secret Security Service!" Somebody will believe it.

Re:MOD PARENT UP (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9802246)

It's a single story... from an Africa website of unknown validity. Why haven't ANY other news outlets run the story?

No coverage in local papers (2, Informative)

Jonny_eh (765306) | more than 10 years ago | (#9802084)

So far I have seen no mention of this symposium in the local Ottawa papers. Very sad.

Re:No coverage in local papers (1)

Seek_1 (639070) | more than 10 years ago | (#9802205)

Indeed. I'm an IT Developer (admittedly Windows, but still) and I haven't seen a since notice that this was going on again.

Re:No coverage in local papers (1)

Seek_1 (639070) | more than 10 years ago | (#9802227)

single notice... (when am I going to learn to proof-read..) :(

Re:No coverage in local papers (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9802343)

Why don't they make it *HEADLINE NEWS*?? You friggin moron.

Re:No coverage in local papers (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9802746)

At least I *heard* about BSDCan, this one seems to have had a very low profile. Maybe I need to find the Linux equivalent of Daemonnews instead of expecting Slashdot to offer News for Nerds or even Stuff that Matters.

Re:No coverage in local papers (1)

Entr0Ki (731408) | more than 10 years ago | (#9802914)

Not even Tech Weekly in the Citizen? Wow...

Canadian Pronounciation (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9802100)

Linoox, eh?

Google is down (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9802130)

it's been down for 15 minutes, at least:

Server Error
The service you requested is not available at this time.

Service error -27.

Nice to See Linux Prospering on a Global Scale (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9802142)

To be honest, I was sceptical about Linux when it first appeared. I had been a diehard M$ fan and gladly used MS-DOS. Then, one day, someone told me the story of Gary Kildall, who was driven to suicide by Bill Gates.

Then, I took a second look at Linux. I love it. It works just liks UNIX and, in fact, is a version of UNIX. Dennis Ritchie himself says that Linux is the proper heir to the original UNIX that he developed.

The only thing that bugs me is that AOL does not make a client for Linux. If AOL did distribute one, I would erase M$ Windows from my desktop.

Re:Nice to See Linux Prospering on a Global Scale (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9802314)

Why don't you follow into gary kindall's footsteps...and leave the rest of us alone. It'll stop the voices in your head....for sure.

Re:Nice to See Linux Prospering on a Global Scale (1)

mattyrobinson69 (751521) | more than 10 years ago | (#9803859)

if your reffering to AIM, use gaim, its soon to have video conferencing functionality compatible with that of the official client.

if your reffering to AOL the ISP, there's something available to make AOL work on linux but i dont know anything about it.

If you were 'gladly used MS-DOS' and know that linux looks like unix (and like it), you shouldn't be using AOL anyway - its shit (tried it a few years ago because my dad likes free trials)

linux isn't a version of unix, its a clone of unix

OMG (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9802149)

I AM SO HAPPY [redcoat.net]

In the UK (1)

linuxci (3530) | more than 10 years ago | (#9802152)

In the UK we have the UKUUG Linux 2004 conference [ukuug.org] . This years event will be in Leeds between 5th and the 8th August. Not as big as those events over the water but there's still usually a good turnout. The Register has a reader offer [theregister.co.uk] for those who want to attend.

Re:In the UK (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9802516)

Last years UKUUG conference in Edinburgh [ukuug.org] was the best conference I've been to. I'm not able to afford the costs of flying to the US or Canada so it's good that we've got an event of our own.

The nights out are also good too. About 200 of us went to an open air pub on the Friday night, the first time I bet that place has been taken over by Linux geeks. Also had other social events planned too.

Re:In the UK (1)

PaulJS (29481) | more than 10 years ago | (#9804289)

The nights out are also good too

You can say that again [ucl.ac.uk] :)

Another report on the show (1)

ferratus (244145) | more than 10 years ago | (#9802158)

Shameless plug alert. You can get my own report on the 4 days of the show on my my blog [jonscorner.com] .

It includes a few pictures...with more coming tonight.

Re:Another report on the show (1)

schon (31600) | more than 10 years ago | (#9802365)

Re: giveaway:

The Canadian government does NOT require a mathematical question be answered for giveaways.

If you want to run a 'game of chance' (which a giveaway is), there are several qualifications you must follow: you have to represent a registered community charity (and have completed several forms, stating where the proceeds will go), you have to post odds of winning, and more.

So, the workaround is to make it a 'game of skill' instead - and asking a 'skill-testing question' of the winners is the easiest way to do that. There is no requirement that it be a *math* question, but most companies use math questions because they are skill-based, and generally don't provide an impediment to the winner.

And the answer is 100 (just like the square root of 10,000 in decimal would be 100 in decimal, or the square root of 10,000 in octal would be 100 in octal, or the square root of 10,000 in hexadecimal would be 100 in hexadecimal.)

Look out Microsoft (2, Insightful)

quadra23 (786171) | more than 10 years ago | (#9802273)

It's good to see the Linux community uniting like this toward a common goal that solely commercial vendors (aka Microsoft) have been unable to do successfully - be secure and efficient and lean (The LSB test software is about 80,000 lines of code across 2000 files on the first layer. The second layer, which is the meat of the actual tests, is about 100 files and 15,000 lines of code) without the annoyance feature bloat simply because "you need it" or "because we want you to need it".

Let's just hope that the changes planned for LSB come out as intended. If this follows the traditional pattern of Linux this will be definite. ^^

Canada is a Stalin Loving country (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9802286)

when is US going to invade it and turn it around? when? We're dying here.

google /.'ed (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9802334)

owned!

Desktop Developer's Conference (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9802419)

Don't forget the desktop conference going on upstairs at the same time, for the GUI people. Edd Dumbill's report is here [usefulinc.com] .

Audio coverage (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9805453)

The downloadable archive from 2001 was great. I hope they get some more recents speeches ready for download.

And I guess you should ignore the pleading for help in processing the raw audio. I offerred and never hear from them.

Missed alot of the good talks. Xen, CKRM, Tipc (1)

Vector Meson (84092) | more than 10 years ago | (#9808168)

I think the OP missed some of the best talks:

XenoLinux [cam.ac.uk] - a virtual machine layer to support linux and other free OSes at almost native speeds.
Alot faster than UML!

CKRM [sf.net] - not new but I didn't know about it. From their sf site:
The Class-based Kernel Resource Management (CKRM) project seeks to develop Linux kernel mechanisms providing differentiated service to resources such as CPU time, memory pages, I/O and incoming network bandwith based on user defined groups of tasks called classes

TIPC [sf.net] - Transparent Inter Process Communication protocol is specially designed for intra cluster communication but definately not for the internet.

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