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Sad news (5, Funny)

Lord Grey (463613) | more than 9 years ago | (#9837811)

... subject to a DoS attack crippling the company's DNS servers ...
It is truly sad when Internet blackhats target a large, upstanding company like ....

Oh, wait. It was DoubleClick [doubleclick.com]?

Can I donate some computer time?

Re:Sad news (3, Informative)

byolinux (535260) | more than 9 years ago | (#9837821)

I don't think I've seen a banner ad in a year or so.

I used IE the other day for the first time in ages, and was surprised by a popup.

Re:Sad news (5, Funny)

dfurie (766236) | more than 9 years ago | (#9837833)

I think you're on to something. I think its time to give up on SETI and Folding@home and make a new distributed project to better man-kind; a doubleclick DDoS'er.

Heh (2, Funny)

mfh (56) | more than 9 years ago | (#9837875)

Off the record, WOO HOO!!!
On the record, Punch the Monkey and Win $20!

Re:Sad news (5, Funny)

Compholio (770966) | more than 9 years ago | (#9837877)

When they arrest the guy who did it we should put together a paypal donation to take care of his legal costs.

Re:Sad news (2, Insightful)

pHatidic (163975) | more than 9 years ago | (#9837903)

A DoubleClick spokeswoman said the attack targeted the company's domain name servers -- machines that help direct Internet traffic -- causing "severe service disruptions" for all 900 of its customers.

Wait I thought doubleclick was one the thirtieth most visited site on the internet, how could they only have 900 customers? It's almost as if they don't think of the people visiting their site as customers, as if they're only there to be bent over and take it in the behind.

Re:Sad news (3, Funny)

adam mcmaster (697132) | more than 9 years ago | (#9837970)

It's almost as if they don't think of the people visiting their site as customers

That's because they don't. They were referring to the people who pay them to place their ads; the people who click on the ads would be Doubleclick's customers' customers.

Re:Sad news (5, Informative)

JPriest (547211) | more than 9 years ago | (#9837951)

Not that box, I am pinging their primary DNS server and still getting a reply, they have 4.

ns1.doubleclick.net
ns2.doubleclick.net
ns3.doubleclick.net
ns4.doubleclick.net

This way you can check your networks to see if any machines are hitting these DNS server. I am going to keep my ping going to make sure ns1 stays online. j/k

You can do your part to reduce the load by adding doubleclicks ad-servers to your /etc/hosts file as 127.0.0.1 (this can be done in windows too).

Re:Sad news (1)

monkey_jam (557265) | more than 9 years ago | (#9838046)

You can do your part to reduce the load by adding doubleclicks ad-servers to your /etc/hosts file as 127.0.0.1 (this can be done in windows too).
you'd think someone would have put this in a windows/outlook virus by now...

DoubleClick is still around? (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9837813)

It's been so long since I've seen an ad [texturizer.net] I forgot about them.

Re:DoubleClick is still around? (1)

civman2 (773494) | more than 9 years ago | (#9838056)

Mod up parent. I use adblock too, and it's been quite some time since I've seen an ad from the likes of doubleclick. *.doubleclick.* gets rid of them nicely...

Good or bad? (5, Insightful)

EdZ (755139) | more than 9 years ago | (#9837819)

I'm not sure whether the encouragement of DDOS-ing even 'evil' companies should be encouraged.

Re:Good or bad? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9837865)

Let's all DDos M$'s site...their running IIS so it shouldn't be too hard...

ROFL TOO FUNNY LOLZ! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9837980)

I don't understand how DDoS attacks wrok either, but it sure would be funz to haxorz M$ all kinds of up! Their IIS cant hande r leeeeeeet skillzzzes!

See, teh $ means they like teh moneyz!

Re:Good or bad? (3, Insightful)

adam mcmaster (697132) | more than 9 years ago | (#9837917)

I agree, this sort of thing has an effect on many people other than the intended victim; as someone who works for a hosting company (admittedly a small one, but hey) I can tell you how annoying it is when your chosen datacenter is taken down by this kind of thing.

Re:Good or bad? (1)

VistaBoy (570995) | more than 9 years ago | (#9837926)

Exactly. Just because you might not approve of their business model doesn't mean that they don't deserve to be free of attacks.

All hacking is terrible. Don't encourage it just because it happened to hurt someone you don't like.

Re:Good or bad? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9837948)

All hacking is terrible. Don't encourage it just because it happened to hurt someone you don't like.

I think RMS would disagree. This wasn't 'hacking', it was some script kiddie trying to look 'cool'. Sad, really.

Re:Good or bad? (1)

DrEldarion (114072) | more than 9 years ago | (#9837997)

Yes. Also, keep in mind that this didn't only hurt doubleclick - it also hurt the webmasters that used doubleclick ads on their site. For some, a day's worth of ad revenues may be the difference between being able to eat one day or not.

So sad (0)

Jesterboy (106813) | more than 9 years ago | (#9837822)

Oh, my heart bleeds for them.

</sarcasm>

401 The web site is blocked by administrator (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9837972)

Unfortunately, because of the bastard administrator I'm missing out on all kinds of penis enhancing single meeting offers! And now I don't even know when evil crackers (and by that I mean white people, us afro-netizens only use the net for downloading porn, and p2p) are depriving me of these opportunities.

poetic justice.... (4, Interesting)

super_ogg (620337) | more than 9 years ago | (#9837824)

Trying to get rid of traffic they don't want to see... sounds like trying to get rid of adds we don't want to see.
ogg

On behalf.. (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9837825)

On behalf of the Slashdot community, I would just like to say that this was indeed a terrible thing. I, and I believe I speak for everyone here when I say this, greatly missed the DoubleClick ads. Their intrusive nature, attempted trickery, and bright flashy lights are what make my internet experience what it is.

I hope that whoever did this terrible act is brought to justice, as such a horrible thing cannot go unpunished!

Re:On behalf.. (2, Funny)

boudie (704942) | more than 9 years ago | (#9837888)

I guess the persons who did this really hate our freedom to watch advertisements.

Re:On behalf.. (1)

HermanZA (633358) | more than 9 years ago | (#9837963)

Yeah, their intrusive nature and bright flashy things are what makes me use Links for much of my web browsing. Any news sites such as Slashdot, CNN and so on, all work great with Links.

Re:On behalf.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9838005)

For those who didn't know: click here [sourceforge.net]

Re:On behalf.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9838037)

Sorry, I meant "those who didn't know what Links is"

Uh, Slashdot runs Doubleclick ads (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9837981)

Pardon me for pointing out the obvious, but Slashdot runs Doubleclick ads, and presumably that helps cover costs.

Re:On behalf.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9838076)

I hope that whoever did this terrible act is brought to justice, as such a horrible thing cannot go unpunished!

I'm willing to donate twenty bucks.

OMGWTFWHATAMAGANNADOOOOO (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9837829)


Without ads, whats the point in browsing, I say!

(*grin*)

Damn (2, Funny)

foidulus (743482) | more than 9 years ago | (#9837840)

All those people clikcing links for money must have really gone overboard this time, they will probably make more money than me.

time to kill myself (1)

the arbiter (696473) | more than 9 years ago | (#9837843)

Without this vital source of information into my life, what will I do?

Seriously, I didn't notice. There's so many ads (and I use pop-up blockers and hosts) that they're all just lost in the noise. Which is a really sad commentary on the state of the Internet when you think about it.

Actually... (4, Insightful)

MacGoldstein (619138) | more than 9 years ago | (#9837849)

Although it may seem like some sort of poetic justice that Doubleclick was attacked...

The attacks had more far-reaching effects. Pages would take forever to load for me (certain pages, not all), if they used doubleclick ads, simply because the browser was waiting for the final item (the ad) to load.

Whether or not you like doubleclick, their widespread adoption made this a productivity hit for those of us who frequent pages w/ doubleclick content (even if we never notice it).

Re:Actually... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9837891)

Two Words:
Firefox
Adblock

Re:Actually... (1)

MacGoldstein (619138) | more than 9 years ago | (#9837914)

Yes, I know I could have done that, but I don't use Firefox on my laptop... I use Safari, and I'm too lazy to go around adding hosts to block to my router tables.

Re:Actually... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9838074)

Stop bitching when there are plenty of easy to install and easy to use solutions to block advertisements. Sheesh!

Re:Actually... (1)

DillPickle (10473) | more than 9 years ago | (#9837927)

These SOBs are long overdue for something like this to happen. Even on a good day, their overloaded servers are just fucking things up for the rest of us. I don't have all GD day for their shit to load up. Maybe they will get more server capacity in operation or just go the hell out of business.....

Old News for Nerds, Stuff that's Days Old (4, Informative)

dsanfte (443781) | more than 9 years ago | (#9837852)

Seriously, Slashdot needs to shape up, or stop trying to be a news site. This happened yesterday. If you can't get your editors to greenlight stories faster than 24hours in advance, let subscribers do it like Fark does.

Re:Old News for Nerds, Stuff that's Days Old (1)

cephyn (461066) | more than 9 years ago | (#9837918)

Seriously. At the very least, if you're gonna be late, link to or have some interesting and /. crowd specific commentary. Otherwise its just a day late repeat of freshnews.org.

Re:Old News for Nerds, Stuff that's Days Old (4, Insightful)

daeley (126313) | more than 9 years ago | (#9837943)

let subscribers do it like Fark does.

Yeah, 'cause there's no bastion of journalistic potency like Fark.

Granted this story broke yesterday, but since you obviously already knew about it from *some* source, I don't see what the problem is. Now we get to discuss it on /.

Re:Old News for Nerds, Stuff that's Days Old (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9838027)

Yeah, 'cause there's no bastion of journalistic potency like Fark.

All in all, I find the quality of journalism and unnessecary "news" commentary by the editors far more annoying and unprofessional than the quality of stuff posted on fark (though Wil Wheaton causes enough problems for people on both forums himself with his immature rants and threats).

The system on Kur5hin is actually what I would prefer - the submission queue should be completely moderated by the readers that way people like CmdrTaco or Michael "Gonna Steal your Domain Name" Sims are just regular people like you and me and the actual quality of what gets posted actually goes up.

Re:Old News for Nerds, Stuff that's Days Old (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9838013)

Subscribers don't greenlight Fark stories. Not even Moderators do. The stories are approved by a whole other group of Admins.

Uppins Have Come.. (1)

Seek_1 (639070) | more than 9 years ago | (#9837857)

.. so this is like what? One request for every unwanted ad they've ever forced down someone's throat??

I didn't notice (5, Informative)

Patik (584959) | more than 9 years ago | (#9837860)

I've had the following in my HOSTS file for a while now

0.0.0.0 ad.doubleclick.com
0.0.0.0 ads.doubleclick.net
0.0.0.0 ad2.doubleclick.net
0.0.0.0 ad3.doubleclick.net
0.0.0.0 ad4.doubleclick.net
0.0.0.0 ad5.doubleclick.net
0.0.0.0 ad6.doubleclick.net
0.0.0.0 ad7.doubleclick.net
0.0.0.0 ad8.doubleclick.net
0.0.0.0 ad9.doubleclick.net
0.0.0.0 ad10.doubleclick.net
0.0.0.0 ad11.doubleclick.net
0.0.0.0 ad12.doubleclick.net
0.0.0.0 ad13.doubleclick.net
0.0.0.0 ad14.doubleclick.net
0.0.0.0 ad15.doubleclick.net
0.0.0.0 ad16.doubleclick.net
0.0.0.0 ad17.doubleclick.net
0.0.0.0 ad18.doubleclick.net
0.0.0.0 ad19.doubleclick.net
0.0.0.0 ad20.doubleclick.net
0.0.0.0 ad.ch.doubleclick.net
0.0.0.0 ad.ca.doubleclick.net
0.0.0.0 ad.de.doubleclick.net
0.0.0.0 ad.fr.doubleclick.net
0.0.0.0 ad.jp.doubleclick.net
0.0.0.0 ad.nl.doubleclick.net
0.0.0.0 ad.no.doubleclick.net
0.0.0.0 ad.uk.doubleclick.net
0.0.0.0 ln.doubleclick.net
0.0.0.0 m.doubleclick.net
0.0.0.0 m2.doubleclick.net
0.0.0.0 iv.doubleclick.net
0.0.0.0 ebay.doubleclick.net

Lameness filter randomness: eed d ed wdwe de ff g v fdovk fok fb f osvi jfvioj asv d vp vv jspavj spav dsv aspdvj ede oijf o greg ewrg

Re:I didn't notice (1)

AuMatar (183847) | more than 9 years ago | (#9837957)

I just use a proxy thta blocks *doubleclick*. Then they can't add a new server on me.

Re:I didn't notice (5, Informative)

owlmon (696565) | more than 9 years ago | (#9838081)

> I've had the following in my HOSTS file for a while now
>
> 0.0.0.0 ad.doubleclick.com
> 0.0.0.0 ads.doubleclick.net
> ...

Some alternatives that are fun:

1. Install privoxy from sourceforge.net. This is a local http proxy that allows you to filter out web content using regular expressions. So you can easily blank out any URL that contains the string "doubleclick." This is easier and more complete than trying to enumerate all the hostnames that Doubleclick Inc. uses. Privoxy is multi-platform; you can use it under Linux, Windows, etc.

2. Install posadis from sourceforge.net. This is a caching DNS server that you can install on your computer. It allows you to control how domain names (like *.doubleclick.net) get resolved by ALL the programs on your computer. I use it to essentially blackhole domains that I don't like. Once again, this is a multi-platform project. In particular, under Windoze, it runs as a service. It has an irritating bug: under Windoze, it will occasionally start using 100% CPU. When this happens, you have to restart the posadis service. A hassle, verily. But I enjoy having the control that derives from running my own DNS server.

3. Use a firewall (hardware or software) to block out numeric IP addresses. For example, 216.73.92.112 is www.doubleclick.net, so it should be blocked. I used to use this approach. I liked the idea of absolutely blocking any packets going to or from the bad guys, regardless of the DNS name used. The problem with this approach is that outfits like doubleclick.net will use a ton of different numeric IP addresses, and it's difficult to keep up with them.

Problem with infrastructure companies (5, Interesting)

PIPBoy3000 (619296) | more than 9 years ago | (#9837864)

The issue wasn't that Double Click had problems, but that every site that uses them become very slow.

Until the basic routing infrastructure of the net changes, this is going to be a common issue anytime a number of big sites all require another organization to serve up their pages (e.g. Akamai).

I fail to see how this is a bad thing (1)

snipersock (575598) | more than 9 years ago | (#9837866)

I fail to see how this is a bad thing in any way. Might want to change the meaning from attack to justice. Its really about time someone wasted there badwidth instead of them wasting ours.

Double Click is still around? (1)

Cignus20 (637069) | more than 9 years ago | (#9837879)

Double click is still around... damn I thought for sure they would have been killed with all these people using mozilla.... Oh wait nevermind... using mozilla/firefox requires a modicum of a clue! Something 99.8% of the world doesn't have (not news to the /. crowd)

In other news... (1)

10101001011 (744876) | more than 9 years ago | (#9837880)

Marketing mogul DoubleClick was brought to its knees for a second time today after someone posted the story of their first downtime on Slashdot. MOst users reported clicking on the link to DoubleClick's website merely to drive the site to its knees.

So I guess this means people couldn't "double click" on the advertisements, huh? Terrible, I know, please, just kill me now....

Finaly (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9837884)

About time they hit something worth it. are you guys not tired of the irc,shell providers wars? its getting nuts theses days.

I'm sure I speak for everyone (1)

RLiegh (247921) | more than 9 years ago | (#9837889)

when I say that slashdot extends our deepest sympathy to doubleclick in their time of trouble.

On a completely unrelated note; does anyone know of a mouth surgeon? I can't seem to pull my tongue out of my cheek....

Oh the horror! (1)

bmw (115903) | more than 9 years ago | (#9837892)

The Tuesday attack left PC users frustrated when trying to access some of the Internet's most heavily visited sites, the Washington Post said Wednesday.

Heh. I know I always get upset when I'm not being bombarded by advertisements.

Anarchy in the TCP/IP (2, Insightful)

Knights who say 'INT (708612) | more than 9 years ago | (#9837895)

There is a downside to such attacks as they harm business trust on the internet and large capital investments to the infrastructure and R&D and all. But it also has an upside, and a important one it is. Little bouts of anarchy like this show The Powers that Be that there is such a thing as an internet community who does not take slimey practices (such as the Verisign search, remember?) lightly.

It keeps commercialism in check. And that is a Good Thing (TM).

Don't tolerate them (5, Insightful)

zoloto (586738) | more than 9 years ago | (#9837899)

No matter how much I hate /ads/, a DDoS should not be tolerated no matter to whom it's directed. Weather it's kernel.org or microsoft.com, let's try to use our knowledge constructivly instead of destructivly. How does that sound? And where does any one person think a DDoS will get for anyone as a whole? If anything, it'll bring a stronger resolve to preventative measures and keep them going strong. They have the $!! so where will it really get those who started this "attack"?

Are you sure it wasn't a slashdotting? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9837916)

Are you sure it wasn't a slashdotting? Perhaps Slashdot is serving a bunch of doubleprick adds?

Good? (2, Interesting)

Jack9 (11421) | more than 9 years ago | (#9837938)

I'm a little disappointed that a group of fairly die-hard anti-doubleclick geeks could only hobble it a few hours at 75%...it may simply have been more effective to introduce a nasty virus into their network, so we'll just call this attack a symbolic way to raise awareness of this historically nasty company. I much rather have heard that a more intrusive and smaller company like CoolWeb was attacked.

Great Idea / It's About Time (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9837940)

Oh yes, encouraging people to take over other computers and swamp the internet with enough garbage packets to bring down a large group of servers. Oh yeah... GREAT way to express your dislike for a particular entity/service/idea. Lets keep encouraging this behavior, the government needs something else to regulate.

No WAY that was DoS (1)

TiggertheMad (556308) | more than 9 years ago | (#9837945)

preventing up to 75% of advertising from making it to web pages and surfers' eyes

That wasn't a DoS attack, it was 75% of the Internet switching to Mozilla and Firefox after the story earlier today about YAIEH. (Yet Another IE Hole. We need more acronyms on /. It's also the sound you make when hit with a drive-by installer. YAIIEEEHHH!)

The IT colorscheme still sucks.

What advertising? (1)

Julian Morrison (5575) | more than 9 years ago | (#9837954)

Seriously, I haven't seen much of any of it since I configured adblock on Firefox.

You're saying there's still advertising out there on the web? Whoda thunk it.

I had no problems (1)

mrwiggly (34597) | more than 9 years ago | (#9837958)

scrub:/# host www.doubleclick.net
www.doubleclick.net A 192.168.1.1
scrub:/#

Of course having this in my named.conf helps...
zone "doubleclick.net" {
type master;
file "/etc/bind/db.vermin";
};

Thank you MyDoom! (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9837978)

Thanks Mydoom! =)

I didnt notice though.. those are blocked anyway

Id recommend everyone add this to their hosts file:

127.0.0.1 ad.ca.doubleclick.net
127.0.0.1 ad.de.doubleclick.net
127.0.0.1 ad.doubleclick.net
127.0.0.1 ad.es.doubleclick.net
127.0.0.1 ad.fr.doubleclick.net
127.0.0.1 ad.free6.com
127.0.0.1 ad.it.doubleclick.net
127.0.0.1 ad.iwin.com
127.0.0.1 ad.jp.doubleclick.net
127.0.0.1 ad.kr.doubleclick.net
127.0.0.1 ad.linkexchange.com
127.0.0.1 ad.linksynergy.com
127.0.0.1 ad.nl.doubleclick.net
127.0.0.1 ad.no.doubleclick.net
127.0.0.1 ad.preferences.com
127.0.0.1 ad.se.doubleclick.net

Slashdot it? (1)

thesuperav (780685) | more than 9 years ago | (#9837986)

Now that somebody has (kindly) taken down their DNS server, let us do our part and slashdot their web server :)

3rd worst servers in existence ? (1, Interesting)

zymano (581466) | more than 9 years ago | (#9837991)

1. Terrorist training servers.
2. Goatzee
3. Doubleclick

Your list ?

Sweet Justice (1)

BCW2 (168187) | more than 9 years ago | (#9838006)

All they do is try to sell info to advertisers about everything we do on the internet. The do have their own spyware and this just might deliver more income than the ads they run.

I thought there were some ads missing... (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9838015)

And here I thought that my ad-blocker was actually working. Silly me.

Doubleclick DDOS? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9838016)

My heart weeps crimson tears for them.

Truly it does!

haven't seen one in years (1)

Revek (133289) | more than 9 years ago | (#9838017)

I have a large host file that makes sure I don't see many ads. Problem solved

Phmmm (1)

Skiron (735617) | more than 9 years ago | (#9838028)

More press bollocks

"One of the things that makes the Internet so survivable is that no one company or technology runs the whole thing," said Lloyd Taylor, Keynote's vice president of technology and operations. "In this case ... the attackers targeted a common infrastructure relied upon by many companies."

Well, what we need is a filter on embedded URL's not from source to be ignored/dropped/NOW in browser code (not > /dev/null type solutions).

127.0.0.1 (2, Funny)

bstadil (7110) | more than 9 years ago | (#9838052)

I am glad that my machine didn't inadvertently participate in their DDOS attack. I would have been hammering away at 127.0.0.1

Sick! (1)

t_allardyce (48447) | more than 9 years ago | (#9838072)

I think we all need to come together in this time of mourning. Maybe we can set up a fund to help these guys? I can see already allot of support and condolence on this thread. Our thoughts should be on DoubleClick and their families, it sickens me as to how a thing like this can happen, and i can only say, i hope the people responsible are caught and punished to the full extent of the law. All DoubleClick wanted to do, is help the world by DoSing millions of users around the world with banner and pop-up ads but now it could take them... minutes to get their systems back to normal.

(My spell checker is down)
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