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D Squared To Stop Sending Pop-Ups

timothy posted more than 10 years ago | from the how-very-gracious-of-them dept.

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bizpile writes "D Squared Solutions, the company created by college students Anish Dhingra and Jeffrey Davis, has agreed to stop bombarding computer users with Internet pop-up ads to advertise its ad-blocking software, avoiding a court battle with the Federal Trade Commission. They were sending pop-up ads using the Messenger function enabled on many Windows operating systems. Their attorneys claimed the pair were not trying to extort consumers with their ads and only intended to send one a day to computer users. Lawyer Anthony J. Dain has said the ads are 'annoyances you have to deal with in a free society.'" (The San Diego Union-Tribune also has a story.)

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Great! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9856140)

Glad to see they're following Microsoft's lead! SP2 will be turning this off for most users... Hey, wait a second...

Poll: WHICH IS BETTER (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9856193)

Vote for: [calcgames.org] ceren [satindeath.net]
Vote for: [calcgames.org] perdida [img66.exs.cx]
Vote for: [calcgames.org] perdida's sister [upenn.edu]
Vote for: [calcgames.org] mercatur [mercatur.net]
Vote for: [calcgames.org] taco's wife [cmdrtaco.net]
Vote for: [calcgames.org] cowboyneal [everything2.com]
Vote for: [calcgames.org] rustina [img28.exs.cx]

Re:Poll: WHICH IS BETTER (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9856255)

That's just creepy. Especially the rustina and perdida.

Glad somebody remembered the cowboyneal option, though!

Re:Poll: WHICH IS BETTER (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9856283)

I still think taco's wife is creepier than perdida.

Re:Poll: WHICH IS BETTER (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9856317)

She's no ceren, that's for sure!

Wow. And I live here (-1, Offtopic)

EvilArchitect (515225) | more than 10 years ago | (#9856142)

As a resident of Alabama, and not too fond of our current governor, I'm in the process of writing a letter even as we speak.

I know you're from Alabama (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9856150)

And this whole "internet" thing is still pretty new to you, but that was the previous story.

Re:I know you're from Alabama (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9856253)

hahahahah!

Re:I know you're from Alabama (2, Funny)

DotNM (737979) | more than 10 years ago | (#9856445)

"The internet.... they have that on computers now?!?!" -- Homer Simpson

Is that you??? (-1, Troll)

slycer9 (264565) | more than 10 years ago | (#9856356)

Aubrey?
Of the fornicating ring? The 'Ward'? The Ice Queen?

If it IS, I'm the stupid redneck who popped her cherry.

Re:Is that you??? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9856409)

Step away from the keyboard, sir!

If you are using Y! Messenger (1)

vivekg (795441) | more than 10 years ago | (#9856478)

They were sending pop-up ads using the Messenger function enabled on many Windows operating systems
Yup yahoo messenger is annoying simply use zinc http://zinc.sourceforge.net/ [sourceforge.net] or curphoo http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/curphoo/ [nongnu.org] for Linux/FreeBSD/OpenBSD etc all. They just not block the advts; but also got facility to ignore users, stop booters and other features :))

Annoyances (5, Insightful)

MaineCoon (12585) | more than 10 years ago | (#9856147)

'annoyances you have to deal with in a free society.'

No, no I don't. Thank you, FTC.

Re:Annoyances (2, Insightful)

eliza_effect (715148) | more than 10 years ago | (#9856159)

That MIGHT only work if I could return the "favor", otherwise I wouldn't say it's something that I should "have to deal with".

Re:Annoyances (1)

kmweber (196563) | more than 10 years ago | (#9856163)

Actually yeah, you do. The problem is that, thanks in part due to the mere existence of such intrusive socialist agencies as the FTC, the US is now no longer anything approaching a free society.

Re:Annoyances (2, Interesting)

ergo98 (9391) | more than 10 years ago | (#9856190)

The problem is that, thanks in part due to the mere existence of such intrusive socialist agencies as the FTC, the US is now no longer anything approaching a free society.

So in a truly free society, they could send their messenger popup, and in return I could send a platoon of machine gun equipped commandos to liquidate their offices? Is that freedom with intrusive socialist agencies like justice departments or police?

Re:Annoyances (1)

ergo98 (9391) | more than 10 years ago | (#9856208)

Ughh...with=without.

Re:Annoyances (1)

i wanted another nam (726753) | more than 10 years ago | (#9856414)

In a truly free society, they would be able to send you those messages and you would be able to ignore them. Either by clicking "OK" or using the various [stopmessengerspam.com] guides [caltech.edu] available [microsoft.com] online.

Freedom is a double edged sword, friend.

Re:Annoyances (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9856457)

you shouldnt have to actively defend yourself against being bombarded by things such as this. saying you're responsibly for getting software to block it is a little like saying you should build a moat around your house if you dont want my three dogs shitting on your lawn.

Re:Annoyances (1)

Steve B (42864) | more than 10 years ago | (#9856274)

Yeah, and I hear that intrusive socialist police will get on your case if you try to get people to buy "fire insurance" (to prevent a visit from your friend Vinnie the Torch).

This was an extortion racket asking people to pay to avoid a problem created by the racketeers themselves in the first place, and as such was quite properly shut down. The only injustice is that the perps aren't going to PMITA prison.

Re:Annoyances (1)

kmweber (196563) | more than 10 years ago | (#9856354)

They were actively damaging property. The people in the article were not.

Re:Annoyances (1)

idlemind (760102) | more than 10 years ago | (#9856164)

Next you're going to tell me murder isn't something we have to tolerate. Why thats just crazy.

Re:Annoyances (4, Insightful)

0racle (667029) | more than 10 years ago | (#9856188)

You needed the FTC? You should look at something called a 'firewall.,' it stops unwanted traffic.

Re:Annoyances (1)

MaineCoon (12585) | more than 10 years ago | (#9856406)

We had a Win2K Server box running as a router/firewall/server at a tiny company I worked at, back in 2002, before this crap started happening a lot. The person who configured the server never set it up to ignore those messages... One day I went to changed something on the server, and there were about 1,000 of those damned messages up. I think the last time someone had used the machine locally was about 2 months ago...

So I changed something else on the server that day, of course.

Re:Annoyances (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9856429)

Mod parent -1 asshole.

Re:Annoyances (2, Insightful)

Adam9 (93947) | more than 10 years ago | (#9856547)

Firewalls don't stop telemarketers from calling my cell phone.

Re:Annoyances (5, Insightful)

gmhowell (26755) | more than 10 years ago | (#9856221)

Speaking of annoyances you don't have to live with, clicking this link [slashdot.org] removes the awful color scheme that /. has for the IT section.

OT: Mozilla needs a regexp module (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9856314)

So we can strip the annoying slashdot theme prefix and maybe do other neat stuff, like convert news links into regfree google links :)

Re:OT: Mozilla needs a regexp module (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9856377)

Javascript [netscape.com] has what you need. It's built into Mozilla. Type javascript: in the address bar and type a program.

Re:Annoyances (1)

ForresterInc (785824) | more than 10 years ago | (#9856416)

Lawyer Anthony J. Dain has said the ads are 'annoyances you have to deal with in a free society.' Uh no, I really don't. I can use Linux (free), or I can disable the Messenger service in Windows (came with my laptop).

Hmmm, let's see. (4, Funny)

Eeknay (766740) | more than 10 years ago | (#9856153)

Lemme guess, their popup was advertising for how to stop popups, right?

Re:Hmmm, let's see. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9856199)

no, if they were doing that they would just tell you to turn off messenger service. they were offering protection in exchange for money without also offering to cure the users ignorance (in fact their pitch was purposely misleading).

Re:Hmmm, let's see. (1)

Eeknay (766740) | more than 10 years ago | (#9856217)

Woo, here comes the funny train, last stop is you.

Re:Hmmm, let's see. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9856210)

Wow, you catch on fast too...

Re:Hmmm, let's see. (2, Funny)

wayward (770747) | more than 10 years ago | (#9856214)

Wow, what's next? RJ Reynolds putting stop-smoking ads in their cigarette packs?

Re:Hmmm, let's see. (2, Insightful)

name773 (696972) | more than 10 years ago | (#9856247)

they already do, it's called a surgeon general's warning

Re:Hmmm, let's see. (1)

wayward (770747) | more than 10 years ago | (#9856275)

Hmm, so maybe the popup ads hawking the anti-popup software is more like the Mafia selling "protection."

Re:Hmmm, let's see. (1)

name773 (696972) | more than 10 years ago | (#9856346)

yes that would be the nerd mafia

lol

Re:Hmmm, let's see. (1)

Lord Kano (13027) | more than 10 years ago | (#9856442)

The put the Surgeon General's warning on the packs and have you ever seen one of those "CrazyWorld" commercials? Those are paid for by the tobacco companies as well.

They can't advertise on TV, radio or (in some places) billboards. The ads that they do put out tell you not to use their products. Guess what? People still smoke. As awful and disgusting a habit as it may be, smoking provides people with something that they are missing in their lives. People will smoke as long as cigarettes are available.

LK

Re:Hmmm, let's see. (1)

wayward (770747) | more than 10 years ago | (#9856466)

Yeah, I remember hearing one of the anti-smoking ads on the radio that Big Tobacco had been forced to sponsor. It was interesting how lame it was, almost like it was supposed to be easy to ignore. Not that I'm saying that Big Tobacco is ethically challenged or anything....

Re:Hmmm, let's see. (1)

Lord Kano (13027) | more than 10 years ago | (#9856542)

People have known that smoking cigarettes causes cancer since at least the 1950s. "Cancer Sticks" has been a slang term for cigarettes for about 50 years. The tobacco companies are marking a product that while detrimental to the health isn't marketed to be anything else.

OK, back in the 1930s they actually tried to convince people of the health benefits of smoking, but those days are long gone.

LK

Sounds like they're done for... (5, Insightful)

Maestro4k (707634) | more than 10 years ago | (#9856158)

  • D Squared agreed not to send pop-up ads using the Messenger function enabled on many Windows operating systems; such ads do not require an open Web browser to display. The company also won't sell ad-blocking software any longer, and it is barred from sending other ads unless users can choose not to receive them.
Looking at this it looks like their advertising days are over. That last bit will be hard for them to get around since they'll likely be heavily scrutinized by the FTC for some time to come.

I certainly won't feel sorry for them, they were sending their popups using the windows Messaging function, making them even lower down than most popup advertisers. Kudos to the FTC for going after these guys!

Re:Sounds like they're done for... (4, Insightful)

gcaseye6677 (694805) | more than 10 years ago | (#9856510)

Like spammers, telemarketers, and junk faxers, they seem unable to grasp the concept that they are using other peoples' resources for free to send their ads. That is why people don't like them and want to shut them down. It's a fairly simple concept for most of us, but they honestly think they are doing nothing wrong.

Annoyances? (5, Funny)

nysus (162232) | more than 10 years ago | (#9856165)

'annoyances you have to deal with in a free society.'

Which? Lawyers that defend assholes like this?

Re:Annoyances? (5, Insightful)

ScrewMaster (602015) | more than 10 years ago | (#9856189)

He's just trying to equate unwanted advertising with constitutionally-protected free speech. Idiot ... the vital principle of being allowed to speak one's mind without fear of retaliation by a vengeful government has nothing to do with abuse of one's fellow citizens for fun and profit. I have the feeling that if junk mail, junk faxes and spam had existed during the Revolution there'd be specific provisions against them in the Constitution.

Re:Annoyances? (1)

Spellbinder (615834) | more than 10 years ago | (#9856379)

i think you americans should make a revolution reloaded or some other sequel
we over here in switzerland add things to our constitution four times a year

Re:Annoyances? (1)

DaHat (247651) | more than 10 years ago | (#9856480)

They just tried to do that recently here, an amendment that would prevent same sex marriages.

Part of the reason our constitution only has 27 amendments is the original document was written to make it difficult to change it. Somehow I don't think an amendment to make it easier would succeed... but then many new amendments have been proposed over the years... and the vast, vast, vast majority of them have been shot down.

Re:Annoyances? (4, Insightful)

nysus (162232) | more than 10 years ago | (#9856513)

Gee, let's think about this for a 1/2 second. What's stopping me from plastering a billboard right on your front lawn for a miracle drug that cures cancer?

I can't do that because sometimes property rights and deceptive trade practices trump free speech rights. It's not a difficult concept. The two college kids want to take over your computer to pitch false claims at you. Damn straight that should be illegal.

Re:Annoyances? (1)

DJStealth (103231) | more than 10 years ago | (#9856366)

Lawyers that don't know how to disable the 'messenger' service in Windows, and instead opt to buy this product to do it for them.

Annoyances (5, Funny)

Chapium (550445) | more than 10 years ago | (#9856172)

I guess they learned about another annoyance in a free society: Lawyers

We promise only to bother you once (4, Funny)

KarmaOverDogma (681451) | more than 10 years ago | (#9856173)

Oh yeah... Right...

Fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me - can't get fooled again.

Oh, wait, that's the guy from Texas, isn't it?

.

Re:We promise only to bother you once (1)

vxvxvxvx (745287) | more than 10 years ago | (#9856197)

I thought that was a saying from Tennessee?

Re:We promise only to bother you once (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9856434)

In case you didn't get it, it's beautiful quote from the Idiot President [lowculture.com] .

Annoyances, huh? (5, Funny)

ScrewMaster (602015) | more than 10 years ago | (#9856175)

Anyone got this "Dain" person's IP address? I have a "NET SEND" that I'd like to throw his way.

Re:Annoyances, huh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9856424)

NAT of any kind eliminates those ads. Unless you have that specific port open and forwarded to your computer.

Re:Annoyances, huh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9856425)

Yeah, like they wouldn't know anything about firewalls.

With the amount of sysadmins they've pissed off, you can be sure they've blocked all incoming ports a loooong time ago

Software (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9856176)

HEY ASSHOLES! Buy THIS SOFTWARE to GET RID of TROLLS on SLASHDOT. goatsxc goatsxc hot grits, in russia stephen king deads you.

Square D (3, Interesting)

suso (153703) | more than 10 years ago | (#9856181)

You know, when I first read that headline, I was thinking of the Square D company [squared.com] that makes circuit breaker boxes and other electrical supplies. And I was thinking "What the hell?"

White Hat Spammer! (3, Interesting)

Ryan Stortz (598060) | more than 10 years ago | (#9856182)

Has anyone thought of sending out messages telling people how to turn off Windows Messenger?

Re:White Hat Spammer! (1)

Eeknay (766740) | more than 10 years ago | (#9856187)

Although this is a good idea, it's probably too technical for Mr. Average Joe to be doing. He might get scared at the procedure, or even change the wrong setting. I thought Microsoft already fixed this problem, though?

Re:White Hat Spammer! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9856226)

"Although this is a good idea, it's probably too technical for Mr. Average Joe to be doing"

naw. just send the user to a URL that has pretty pictures of the GUI along with every step.

Re:White Hat Spammer! (2, Funny)

Eeknay (766740) | more than 10 years ago | (#9856238)

But then he might think it's a "hax00r steailn his megahurtz".

Re:White Hat Spammer! (1)

Alsee (515537) | more than 10 years ago | (#9856465)

They're more likely to worry it's hackers trying to to steal their MegaRam.

-

Re:White Hat Spammer! (1)

ScrewMaster (602015) | more than 10 years ago | (#9856207)

I think we need to shorten that phrase a little ... how about "Whammer"?

Re:White Hat Spammer! (5, Informative)

Joey Patterson (547891) | more than 10 years ago | (#9856248)

How to Disable Windows Messenger Service" [virginia.edu] courtesy of the University of Virginia.

Re:White Hat Spammer! (1)

wcbarksdale (621327) | more than 10 years ago | (#9856396)

Interestingly:
It has come to our attention that some third party has been directing users to this page via pop-ups. We do not condone this practice and are not the source of any pop-up that provides a link to this page.

Re:White Hat Spammer! (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9856291)

  1. Start
  2. Run
  3. sc [microsoft.com] config messenger start= disabled

This is a prime example of software failure (5, Insightful)

kidventus (649548) | more than 10 years ago | (#9856186)

Messenger should never have been exposed as a default running service on Windows XP, 2000, & NT computers.. with no authentication and no option to turn it off without going deep in to a services menu.

This proves that software developers in general were caught flat-footed by the internet, and that they failed us as customers by claiming that their computers were now "internet ready" and only meant by that that they gave us integrated no-choice branded browsers and instant messengers to save their market share, they didn't even think about us, just themselves.

Bottom feeders like Square D exist and will always exist. The real failure are software developers, and they should take the blame for the decisions they made from 96 - 01 (when XP was released with Messenger ON) and do better.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to run a virus scan and delete my tracking cookies.

Re:This is a prime example of software failure (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9856259)

The real failure are software developers

Correction: Windows software developers.

This is a prime example of Microsoft failure (3, Interesting)

0x0d0a (568518) | more than 10 years ago | (#9856264)

This proves that software developers in general were caught flat-footed by the internet, and that they failed us as customers by claiming that their computers were now "internet ready" and only meant by that that they gave us integrated no-choice branded browsers and instant messengers to save their market share, they didn't even think about us, just themselves.

No, it proves that Microsoft had zero regard for the Internet and for their customers. The Mac OS had no problems like this. Linux had no problems like this. BSD had no problems like this. The only developers that seemed to think that allowing authentication-less control over the local environment was acceptable (and then tried to promote the view that "no desktop machines should ever exist on the Internet without being firewalled") were the developers at Microsoft. Unfortunately, for them, all their competitors did not completely ignore security when designing software, and as a result, the Microsofties came out looking rather pathetic, especially when they tried to shunt blame off onto sysadmins for not trying to patch over *their* poor design with a firewall.

Re:This is a prime example of Microsoft failure (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9856422)

Heh, are you actually trying to say that BSD and Linux never had "talk" (ntalkd?) enabled by default?

Re:This is a prime example of software failure (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9856342)

Yes, it's a Prime Example of throwing features at users whether they want them or not.

Brilliant (2, Insightful)

Zareste (761710) | more than 10 years ago | (#9856201)

annoyances you have to deal with in a free society.

Yep, we dealt with them all right. Same way we deal with shoplifting,

Re:Brilliant (2, Funny)

Jacer (574383) | more than 10 years ago | (#9856544)

With bricks?

Sick of the baby-shit tan IT color scheme? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9856222)

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Re:Sick of the baby-shit tan IT color scheme? (0, Offtopic)

RLiegh (247921) | more than 10 years ago | (#9856231)

Ok; I should use some CSS code written by ant-slashdot extremists when I could solve the same exact problem by using light mode why, exactly?

Re:Sick of the baby-shit tan IT color scheme? (0, Offtopic)

vxvxvxvx (745287) | more than 10 years ago | (#9856269)

The easy solution (from an AC post the other day) is to backspace over the it.

Poof, no more tan! :)

Re:Sick of the baby-shit tan IT color scheme? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9856308)

Yeah, but you have to do that every time. Too bad there's no way to do an auto-redirect. Maybe Slashdot could sell that as a subscriber feature.

Re:Sick of the baby-shit tan IT color scheme? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9856330)

Maybe somebody could create a bookmarklet to remove the 'it'? Too lazy myself, I guess substr() with a document.URL might do the trick.

This is a great example (5, Insightful)

RLiegh (247921) | more than 10 years ago | (#9856223)

of how the government can properly work with the internet community in policing legitimate nuisences. I'd almost go as far as to say this is evidence we don't need a ton of laws specially tailored to the internet.

Re:This is a great example (2, Funny)

hendridm (302246) | more than 10 years ago | (#9856257)

This is a great example of how the government can properly work with the internet community in policing legitimate nuisences.

Yeah, and it only took them 3 years! Go team.

Re:This is a great example (3, Funny)

RLiegh (247921) | more than 10 years ago | (#9856273)

Yeah, and it only took them 3 years! Go team.

They had to exhaust all of the unreasonable options first. ;)

Re:This is a great example (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9856432)

If I remember correctly, this got started because of the head of the FTC himself received some of these extortionist spam and got pissed off.

No "internet comunity" was involved.

Re:This is a great example (1)

RLiegh (247921) | more than 10 years ago | (#9856467)

No "internet comunity" was involved.
Ah. So you're saying he was getting the spam via esp then?

Only..? (4, Insightful)

krhainos (637354) | more than 10 years ago | (#9856246)

only intended to send one a day to computer users

Only once a day? ... that still seems like a lot.

Its a shame XP SP2 disables this by defualt (3, Interesting)

aardwolf204 (630780) | more than 10 years ago | (#9856290)

Its truly sad that Windows XP Service Pack 2 sets the messenger service to disabled by default. It was always nice to know that no matter if you friend on a lan was on AIM, Yahoo, MSN, Jabber, etc, you could send them a message. Its a shame marketing agencies abused this. I for one leave write on in *nix and messenger on in windows because I'm behind a NAT and dont get these annoyances, and sure every once in a while at a LAN party someone will annoy you with it when your playing a full screen game, but none the less its a shame that this functionality is going away by default, it was truly a cool feature in windows.

Oh, yeah, this is slashdot, um, in Soviet Russis you annoy popups

Re:Its a shame XP SP2 disables this by defualt (1)

BCW2 (168187) | more than 10 years ago | (#9856436)

Except that those of us who don't like invasive proceedures on our computers, like DRM, will not accept SP2. It will fix many problems but the cost is too high. I will download individual pieces that I need and ignore the rest. I also deleted messenger from my machine, don't want it or need it.

Re:Its a shame XP SP2 disables this by defualt (1)

Mechcommander (784124) | more than 10 years ago | (#9856543)

Well, theoretically, since you already know how to send and recieve messeges, as well as turn the service on and off, when you're over at a friend's house on a LAN, or at nearly any LAN, for that matter, you could always instruct the people on how to turn it back on and use it. That way, there's no spam by default, and if the service is necesary, it's nearly painless to turn it on.
Besides, not many 'layman' users are going to know what the Windows Messenger Service is, what it does, or how to turn it off. I believe this is why it has been since changed to be off by default, since Windows is still made to be used by my grandparents and good ol' Janitor Joe from across the street.

And this color scheme, too (2)

SteamyMobile (783822) | more than 10 years ago | (#9856300)

This color scheme is also an annoyance we must deal with in a free society.

But seriously, it's quite amazing that they are admitting in court that their business model is a regretable annoyance. There are so many ways to make money which are a) legal and b) not annoying. I do agree with their lawyer that they should be allowed to continue; users should turn off functions which make their computers accessible to the net in general if they don't want to receive such things.

Re:And this color scheme, too (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9856350)

Should be allowed to continue? I'm starting a business to stop people from crapping on your doorstep. I'll come by and leave you a pile of "informational material" about it once or twice or 8 billion times a day.

If you don't put up a fence, I'll assume you're OK with it.

FOUR WORDS (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9856332)

DONKEY PUNCH MICROSOFT STYLE

Avast....... (1)

theirishhombre (801622) | more than 10 years ago | (#9856335)

To the cyberspacial gallows!

Court Documents (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9856337)

Green slashdot (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9856477)

Color harmony [slashdot.org]

WAKE UP FUCKING SLASHDOT EDITORS (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9856501)

Ok, the shitty pre-1996 HTML we can live with, but the totally fucking unreadable and distracting WHITE text on the diarhea LIGHT BROWN backgrounds we can't.

WAKE THE FUCK UP AND FIX THE FUCKING COLOR SCHEME ***PLEASE***.

"Annoyances"? (5, Interesting)

penginkun (585807) | more than 10 years ago | (#9856487)

So if I come 'round and kick them in the groin once a day and then leave, is that another of those 'annoyances (sic) you have to deal with in a free society'?

Seems like assault and battery, but really, it's not! And those ads they're sending, they only SEEM like an invasion of privacy, but trust me, they're not!

Annoyances (4, Funny)

Kwil (53679) | more than 10 years ago | (#9856495)

You know other annoyances you might have to deal with in a free society? People throwing excrement at your house and car if you're a scumbag lawyer.

Hell, it's biodegradable, so it can be argued that it takes even less action to clean up than a windows messenger pop-up.. just leave it there long enough and it'll go away.

Remember this name: Anish Dhingra (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9856533)

He will go down in history as being the first of the hindu mud people to get rich by cracking our computers. Now that they're losing jobs to africa, they've got nothing left but to turn to crime!
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