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last post oeu oeu (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9857671)

props to gnaa.

www.gnaa.us

Poll: WHICH IS BETTER (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9857693)

Vote for: [calcgames.org] ceren [satindeath.net]
Vote for: [calcgames.org] perdida [img66.exs.cx]
Vote for: [calcgames.org] perdida's sister [upenn.edu]
Vote for: [calcgames.org] mercatur [mercatur.net]
Vote for: [calcgames.org] taco's wife [cmdrtaco.net]
Vote for: [calcgames.org] cowboyneal [everything2.com]
Vote for: [calcgames.org] rustina [img28.exs.cx]

Re:Poll: WHICH IS BETTER (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9857752)

aw cmon, mod this up!

Re:Poll: WHICH IS BETTER (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9857753)

aw cmon, mod this up!

Yesh! It's not every day we see a poll which doesn't include "sex with a mare".

Re:Poll: WHICH IS BETTER (0, Offtopic)

Chuck Bucket (142633) | more than 9 years ago | (#9858066)

All I know is, pictures of Ceren always make me happy that I'm married! I'll burn karma, I don't care, she's awful. /me shivers and says "UGGGGGH!!!"

CB

Re:Poll: WHICH IS BETTER (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9858131)

Wow. Isn't it strange how totally different peoples' tastes can be?

I think Ceren is one of the cutest girls I've ever seen.

Re:Poll: WHICH IS BETTER (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9858862)

What the hell are you talking about?

Re:Poll: WHICH IS BETTER (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9859041)

Come on... I mean, who can resist these eyes [minions.com] ?

werd 2 eugenia (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9857674)

best. greek vagina. ever.

Re:werd 2 eugenia (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9858017)

URL?

BSD wins top babe award! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9857676)

Is it any wonder people think Linux [debian.org] users are a bunch of flaming homosexuals [lemonparty.org] when its fronted by obviously gay losers [nylug.org] like these?! BSD [dragonflybsd.org] has a mascot [freebsd.org] who leaves us in no doubt that this is the OS for real men! If Linux had more hot chicks [hope-2000.org] and gorgeous babes [hope-2000.org] then maybe it would be able to compete with BSD [openbsd.org] ! Hell this girl [electricrain.com] should be a model!

Linux [gentoo.org] is a joke as long as it continues to lack sexy girls like her [dis.org] ! I mean just look at this girl [dis.org] ! Doesn't she [dis.org] excite you? I know this little hottie [dis.org] puts me in need of a cold shower! This guy looks like he is about to cream his pants standing next to such a fox [spilth.org] . As you can see, no man can resist this sexy [spilth.org] little minx [dis.org] . Don't you wish the guy in this [wigen.net] pic was you? Are you telling me you wouldn't like to get your hands on this ass [dis.org] ?! Wouldn't this [electricrain.com] just make your Christmas?! Yes doctor, this uber babe [electricrain.com] definitely gets my pulse racing! Oh how I envy the lucky girl in this [electricrain.com] shot! Linux [suse.com] has nothing that can possibly compete. Come on, you must admit she [imagewhore.com] is better than an overweight penguin [tamu.edu] or a gay looking goat [gnu.org] ! Wouldn't this [electricrain.com] be more liklely to influence your choice of OS?

With sexy chicks [minions.com] like the lovely Ceren [dis.org] you could have people queuing up to buy open source products. Could you really refuse to buy a copy of BSD [netbsd.org] if she [dis.org] told you to? Personally I know I would give my right arm to get this close [dis.org] to such a divine beauty [czarina.org] !

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$Id: ceren.html,v 7.0 2004/01/01 11:32:04 ceren_rocks Exp $

Re:BSD wins top babe award! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9857706)

You might want to consider voting for Ceren on the poll attached to the first post above.

Re:BSD wins top babe award! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9857728)

Thanks dude. I shall include a link to this poll in future Ceren posts.

Here is a typical linux situation. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9857686)

Here is a typical linux situation.

Linuxtard: You should switch to Linux it is better than M$ (isn't that clever it's a dollar sign instead of an S)

Normal human being: Sure why not. Hey how do I set my email? Why isn't it recognizing my video card?

Linuxtard: RTFM

Normal human being: I did. It didn't help at all. I want to run linux but I need some help.

Linuxtard: RTFM you stupid n00b

Mod parent up. (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9857999)

I've actually witnessed that conversation on multiple occasions.

Firefox deserved the win for best browser! (3, Interesting)

FiReaNGeL (312636) | more than 9 years ago | (#9857687)

Even for Windows, Firefox is awesome... I left Netscape at version 6.0 (you know, the one with a ton of AOL bloat), and now it's the first time that I feel that a browser can compete with Explorer. It's fast, customizable, cute, compatible... and the extensions thing is just a greaaaaaat idea! Tabbed browsing is also the best thing since sliced bread...

GG for the win! :)

I didn't checked the other awards, not being a Linux guy... (at least, not for now!)

Re:Firefox deserved the win for best browser! (0, Troll)

damu (575189) | more than 9 years ago | (#9857716)

I agree I think firefox got cheated big time. Heck it was not even mentioned!

Re:Firefox deserved the win for best browser! (2, Informative)

valisk (622262) | more than 9 years ago | (#9857772)

Except for where it was mentioned as best "Web Browser or Client: Mozilla Firefox"?

Please RTFA next time :P

Re:Firefox deserved the win for best browser! (1)

severoon (536737) | more than 9 years ago | (#9859451)

I love Firefox too since I started using it a few weeks ago. Only one question, though...to be considered in competitions like this, doesn't there have to be at least a 1.0 version? I mean, one could argue the playing field isn't level if it's not at 1.0 because it's not the officially, full-featured release version yet. What if Firefox 1.0 includes a bunch of bugs or implements requirements that make it far less desirable to use?

Re:Firefox deserved the win for best browser! (1)

Amiga Lover (708890) | more than 9 years ago | (#9857721)

Even for Windows, Firefox is awesome... I left Netscape at version 6.0 (you know, the one with a ton of AOL bloat), and now it's the first time that I feel that a browser can compete with Explorer. It's fast, customizable, cute, compatible... and the extensions thing is just a greaaaaaat idea! Tabbed browsing is also the best thing since sliced bread...

Anyone know how progress is going on a mozilla port to AmigaOS? There's tens of thousands more potential users out there, mozilla developers, who are clamoring for tabbed browsing for amigas.

Re:Firefox deserved the win for best browser! (4, Funny)

Trurl's Machine (651488) | more than 9 years ago | (#9857763)

Anyone know how progress is going on a mozilla port to AmigaOS?

I heard they finally shipped the T-Shirt.

Re:Firefox deserved the win for best browser! (2, Funny)

kfg (145172) | more than 9 years ago | (#9858548)

I heard they finally shipped the T-Shirt.

Bearing in mind that it's still version 0.1, so it's still feature incomplete.

For version 0.2 the roadmap plans on adding holes for head and arms.

KFG

Re:Firefox deserved the win for best browser! (1)

feidaykin (158035) | more than 9 years ago | (#9858717)

ha ha ha... and happy 5000th post! please keep them coming, and that means no dieing either, mister "winner" of the genetic lottery.

Re:Firefox deserved the win for best browser! (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9857781)

Dude there's six of us left, and Wayne & Jeff are out sick this week. That's four left.

RSS -is- a game. (5, Informative)

ljavelin (41345) | more than 9 years ago | (#9857725)

I find that RSS is inconsistent and a constant challenge.

Yum, how many different implementations of RSS can YOU deal with? It is, in fact, a game.

[If you've never implemented a client, don't bother replying.]

Re:RSS -is- a game. (4, Informative)

moonbender (547943) | more than 9 years ago | (#9857771)

Even the acronym itself in "implemented" inconsistently: the article expands it to Really Simple Syndication, the (I think) original and official meaning is RDF Site Summary (where RDF := Resource Description Framework) and IBM, among others, expands it to Rich site summary. Source: Google Definitions [google.com] .

-1, Flamebait! :-) (0, Troll)

KjetilK (186133) | more than 9 years ago | (#9857828)

Uhm, actually, this should probably be moderated flamebait, allthough the poster might not be intentionally trolling.... :-)

Re:-1, Flamebait! :-) (1)

moonbender (547943) | more than 9 years ago | (#9857905)

How is my post a flamebait? I was used to the original RDF site summary definition, and surprised to see there were others... Naming conventions nonwithstanding, I still like RSS and use it a lot now that my browser [opera.com] is RSS-enabled.

Re:-1, Flamebait! :-) (2, Informative)

KjetilK (186133) | more than 9 years ago | (#9858047)

Well, first of all, note the smiley! Basically, there was a big flamewar about RSS around the release of RSS 2.0. Dave Winer wanted something that was really simple, whereas a whole lot of other people wanted RSS to be the first real Semantic Web application.

RSS as in RSS 2.0 stands for Really Simple Syndication, while when the R in RSS stands for RDF, we're talking Semantic Web.

So, if you had mentioned the two in the wrong fora at the wrong points in time, it would invariably have set off a huge flamewar...

What resulted from the flamewar was a fork, and Atom [atomenabled.org] was created. Now, it doesn't seem to me Atom is a Semantic Web application either, and I probably lost many points here....

There seems to be some peace possibilities [guardian.co.uk] though.

Anyway, the funny thing I meant to point out was that one could inadvertly spark a flamewar by just saying the wrong things yet meaning nothing bad about it...

Re:-1, Flamebait! :-) (1)

moonbender (547943) | more than 9 years ago | (#9858166)

Ah! I wasn't aware of those discussions, I thought "Really Simple Syndication" was something like a joke, trying to get RSS in line some of the humorous OSS acronyms.

Re:-1, Flamebait! :-) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9857978)

You are correct. Your post is nothing but flamebait, and you are a troll.

Re:RSS -is- a game. (2, Informative)

lphuberdeau (774176) | more than 9 years ago | (#9857875)

Well, RDF is something totally different: It's a W3C standard that has a much larger vision than simply RSS. It's used for semantic web and FOAF type of projects but the applications are about unlimited with some imagination. Anyway, I found that giving an award to RSS as a game was quite a good joke. What kind of geek plays games anyway?

Re:RSS -is- a game. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9860113)

Definition of RSS?

the Register [theregister.co.uk] just call it "Arse Feed" :)

Re:RSS -is- a game. (1)

InsaneCreator (209742) | more than 9 years ago | (#9858191)

Another weird thing about RSS is version numbering. Version 0.91 is completely different from 1.0 which is completely differnt from 2.0, but 0.91 and 2.0 look very much the same.

As far as I could understand from the articles I needed to read so I coud create my own RSS feed, one of the standards is just plain XML (0.91, 2.0), while the other is xml-serialized RDF and they are also specified by two different groups of people.

And the end result is a really nice mess.
(But then, those articles could be wrong and I don't really know anything)

Buttkeeper (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9857738)

Too bad it won best SCM system. I'd rather use a rock and chisel before surrendering any money to McVoy.

RSS? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9857758)

Says a lot about the state of games on Linux. It'd be like IRC being named favorite word processor.

Re:RSS? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9857825)

Makes sense, since IRC is in fact just a multiplayer text editor.

Re:RSS? (1)

nwbvt (768631) | more than 9 years ago | (#9858277)

Wouldn't a more appropriate analogy be naming the Internet favorite word processor because it is the backbone of IRC?

Freeciv? (4, Insightful)

Andreas(R) (448328) | more than 9 years ago | (#9857778)

RSS isn't a game. The best Linux game is Freeciv. [freeciv.org] . Period.

Ardour? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9857785)

I've never heard of it before. Anybody want to weigh in on how it compares to Audacity whilst I download?

Re:Ardour? (3, Informative)

paulbd (118132) | more than 9 years ago | (#9857829)

sure, i'm the primary author of ardour.

audacity is a soundfile editor, ardour is a digital audio workstation. you can do some of the same things in each - record audio, chop it up, apply FX and so forth - but they are not equivalent in a deeper sense.

ardour is modelled on proaudio apps like protools, nuendo and samplitude. its not intended to be used for simple editing tasks, but for complex multi-track, multi-channel audio work. we hope that its UI will evolve to make the simple stuff simple, but our initial goal has been to make sure we have an internal architecture that can do anything the high-end proprietary apps can do, and more.

if you don't know how the high-end tools work, ardour will seem very very complex (and the current lack of a manual won't help much with that). if you have used protools, ardour will seem relatively familiar to you, although we attempt to take best-of-breed features from all the other DAWs. otoh, DAWs have all pretty converged on the same core feature set, so the differences have more to do with GUI nuances than functionality.

Project of the year--- How can you tell? (3, Insightful)

xiphmont (80732) | more than 9 years ago | (#9859202)

I'll offer this comment about Ardour; I'm the author of Postfish, Ogg and a regular contributor to Audacity. I've been hearing good thigns about Ardour for more than a year and have thus tried repeatedly to try it out.

a) No manual. No usable manual anyway. I know no one who uses it, so I have no 'live' manual to get me going either. Lots of apps don't have good manuals, but this goes along with b...

b) 'Angry fruit salad' user interface. Lots of functionality [apparently] brilliantly obfuscated by a million buttons in every imaginable color grouped randomly with no real UI intuitiveness to make up for the missing manual. I'm no newbie to pro audio; recording and mastering soundtrack CDs for local theatre groups is one of my pasttimes. But I cannot figure out how to even get started. I spend about an hour on step one every couple of months and have never succeeded in getting it to do anything with the 400G of raw digital audio sitting on my box.

The end result is that I've been unable to figure out how to find the most rudimentary starting-out functions. I already have all my audio; Ardour is too heavy to run on my portable recording boxes-- I have beaverphonic already doing my HD recording for the past several years-- so how do I do anything using Ardour with audio I already have? The manual's tutorials all begin with 'press the record button...' The FAQ says I can use it with my recordings, but the UI and manual conspire to convince me none of that functionality actually exists.

All this *is* a flame-- Ardour is supposedly good software but all it's done is waste my time and for that reason I'm annoyed-- but it's also a genuine request of the Ardour authors to help out all us poor folks that aren't Ardour hackers to get started. I'd love to see what this package can do and give it a fair shake.

Monty

Re:Project of the year--- How can you tell? (1)

paulbd (118132) | more than 9 years ago | (#9859388)

i'm not sure its worth going into this here, since monty and i have shared our fair share of flames and discussions on irc.

all i can say right now is that i don't like the fact that we have no manual, but that i have worked my ass off on this project for 4 years, and there is a limit to what i can do. and because i want to use the blender model (software: $$ free, manual: revenue source), its not really feasible for other people to write The Manual. however, i can't stop other people from writing manuals. strangely, though, from all the complaints about the opaque functionality, no such manuals have emerged. perhaps people really want me to make a living from this thing after all ...

as for "a million buttons", we have less buttons than protools and samplitude, so that can hardly be a central issue. if you don't like the colors, you can change them without recompiling, or you could pay or otherwise convince someone to do a new GTK theme (an alternative one already exists that may become the default for 1.0).

i would love to see ardour be simpler for new users to just walk in and start using. but i am more concerned that the software architecture is adequate for the extraordinary things that a DAW is expected to do. as my confidence in that grows, actually writing the manual starts to make more and more sense.

and yes, ardour's bias has been towards *recording* audio because i wrote it as a tool for use recording studios. it has slowly started to adopt more functionality when it comes to handling existing audio files, including (these days) full support for drag-n-drop direct from nautilus and similar file system browsers.

finally, we have lots of new users who stop by the #ardour IRC channel and get lots of help from everyone including pro-users, other new users, experienced users and the core developers. the majority of them get things figured out pretty quickly and then seem quite happy. not the best possible "new user" experience, but not the worst either.

Re:Project of the year--- How can you tell? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9859686)

i'm not sure its worth going into this here, since monty and i have shared our fair share of flames and discussions on irc.

Monty is a professional recording engineer. If he can't figure Ardour out then the Ardour has some serious problems.


but that i have worked my ass off on this project for 4 years, and because i want to use the blender model (software: $$ free, manual: revenue source), its not really feasible for other people to write The Manual.

My 3 cents:

1) Thank you Paul for your generous gift of 4 years of full time work. Unfortunately the free software model will not let you re-coup that 4 year development investment. You need to think of that time as a gift. The only way to make money is to look forward. Not what have you done, but what can you do, and who of course will pay for that future. All important business decisions. ...

2) Selling a user manual is not a viable open source business model unless of course you are an O'Reilly. Hmm but then O'Reilly doesn't pay for software development. Goto #1.

3) Fact is that if there's a market then someone else will write a manual. A better manual. A more popular manual. This sort of thinking should be encouraged. A third party manual is a sign of success.

Re:Project of the year--- How can you tell? (1)

paulbd (118132) | more than 9 years ago | (#9860006)

recouping the costs over 4-5 years has never been the goal. just making a modest living continuing to do this kind of work is.

the manual is not the only element in the revenue strategy - i would be stupid if i believed that could ever work. but its a significant element. i've already been approached by another moderately well-known open source-related publisher about doing the manual as "a book".

the main point of me doing the manual is to give people something tangible when they pay to get ardour. sure, there might be others (c.f. craig anderton's endless list of books on cubase, sonar etc), but this is the one you can pay for and feel good about doing so :)

the full revenue model involves the manual, sponsorship, contract work, partnerships, support, donations and possibly grants.

btw, monty may be a pro engineer. but the forums for proprietary DAWs are full of comments from people who are "pro engineers" who can't figure out how to do basic stuff. this is not unique to ardour. DAWs are probably among the most complex software used by a single person, and its certainly the most complex thing i've ever been involved with (much more complex, say, than telephone switching software).

Re:Project of the year--- How can you tell? (1)

ageitgey (216346) | more than 9 years ago | (#9860469)

For what it is worth, I think your program is awesome. Yes, some UI work would be great at some point, but high-end software in any industry tends to be complex because the functions being performed are complex. I don't think there is anything on linux that can touch what you are doing for the high-end pro audience. As a recording hobbyist who gets to use pro-quality software for free, I could not be happier :)

Re:Project of the year--- How can you tell? (1)

xiphmont (80732) | more than 9 years ago | (#9860467)

I don't actually object to that development model in any way; there's nothing unreasonable about it, and I've strongly considered it myself.

I was complaining about one and only one thing: For the life of me, I can't figure out how to make it do *anything*. The number of buttons has nothing to do with this; most of my physical control surfaces have even more physical buttons than six copies of Ardour.

If I knew it would give me something my current tools don't, great! I'd happily buy the manual and figure out how to use it. But given that my needs are fufilled (as far as I know anyway; I'm always looking for better), and I can't make heads or tails of Ardour, I'm instead happily not going to be buying the manual. For now anyway.

So... How *do* you use it to do anything with audio you already have on disk? I notice you didn't answer that question ;-)

Monty

Ardour and lack of originality? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9859308)

Thank you Paul for your hard work on Ardour. I wish you good luck in evolving your UI into a nicer package. The low end infrastructure / architecture is always the easy part. A nice friendly UI is the hard part. It will be interesting watching your progress. Which leads me to ...

Compare the screenshots of Ardour to Protools.

As a Linux desktop user I am concerned about the future and prosperity of the Linux desktop. It seems that free software can't create much truly original work. For example: Evolution is a clone of Outlook. Gimp is a clone of Photoshop. Octave is a clone of Matlab. Open Office is a clone of Microsoft Office. Ardour is a clone of Protools, Nuendo, and Samplitude. ... And many of these are lesser quality clones at that.

This isn't a slam since I personally love using these Linux programs but it is troubling nonetheless. How can the Linux software world hope to compete with the Microsoft world when it's most popular apps are just clones?

Is originality even important anymore?

I think we can do better.

Re:Ardour and lack of originality? (2, Interesting)

paulbd (118132) | more than 9 years ago | (#9859673)

do you know why Protools looks the way it does? because they have hundreds of beta testers and serious users offering them feedback at every step of their game. there isn't one thing in PT that hasn't been driven by user feedback - that may be good or bad, but it does mean that the UI is driven by user demands.

second, there is no "MS world" here - the flagship DAWs all started life on the Mac. hell, 4 years ago, PT was only certified to run on a *single* intel-based system (from IBM).

third, DAWs have all pretty much converged on the exact same feature set. you could feel that in the air at NAMM this year - nobody knows where to go next (well, the ardour project does, but it will be a while before we do). ardour attempts to get the best ideas from all of them, so although our UI is structured roughly like PT, we include the new "editor-window-mixer-strip" that originated in SX and is now in Sonar as well.

Re:Ardour? (1)

Nodatadj (28279) | more than 9 years ago | (#9860140)

I've always felt that Audacity's main problem is that its not sure if it wants to be a sample editor or a multitrack editor like Ardour. I guess it copied this schizophrenia from Cooledit...

BTW, I see you nicked the Ardour website style from my sample editors website (marlin.sf.net). But its okay, I nicked it from somewhere else too, and after all, you changed it a lot more than I did...

ClamAV (2, Informative)

karmatic (776420) | more than 9 years ago | (#9857788)

I've been using ClamAV now for a while, and it does a good job.

For my mail server, I use Qmail-Scanner [sourceforge.net] , which does a very good job. Older versions had some issues with funky/broken MIME messages, but they seem to have been mostly resolved.

One Install Away? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9857805)

From Article-
"Any hardware whose speed gets compared to greased rodents is at least worthy of an honorable mention, and Greg Kroah-Hartman made that comparison in his vote for the dual-processor version of the Apple Power Mac G5, which is one Linux install away from being a great system. "It's fast, quiet and pretty to look at. With full 64-bit goodness for a very cheap price, what's not to like?" he wrote. "

One linux install away? I realize this is the linux editors journal, but what about having OSX installed doesnt make it a gre
at system?

Re:One Install Away? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9858181)

Maybe because OSX is slower than linux, isn't fully 64 bit (yet), and doesn't support as many hardware devices?

Great system.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9857812)

"Greg Kroah-Hartman made that comparison in his vote for the dual-processor version of the Apple Power Mac G5, which is one Linux install away from being a great system."

The G5 is already a great system, out of the box.

About GIMP2 (3, Insightful)

Rosco P. Coltrane (209368) | more than 9 years ago | (#9857848)

Graphics Software: The GIMP

Is anybody else unhappy with some of the changes in GIMP2? For me, several useful things have disappeared (like ctrl-T to hide the layer's borders, now it's something else and I have to go in the menu), of the fact that the "anti" tool key modifier is now ALT and not SHIFT anymore (apart for the magnifier, go figure...) and so it creates problems with KDE, it doesn't save the tablet's device status,... the list is endless.

All in all, I wonder why they voted GIMP. It's become less good and less usable than GIMP1, and certainly less than Photoshop overall anyway.

Re:About GIMP2 (2, Informative)

EvilIdler (21087) | more than 9 years ago | (#9857908)

If you don't like the shortcuts, change them!
At least in X11, you can point your mouse at the option you
want changed, then press the key combination you prefer.
For example, open the menu at "Save as..", press Ctrl+A,
and now Ctrl+A is your shortcut for "Save as..".
It's what makes Gtk+ good :)

Re:About GIMP2 (1)

pavon (30274) | more than 9 years ago | (#9858042)

That won't help. The modifiers are not keyboard shortcuts, and cannot be changed that way. I haven't been able to find a way to do so, and while I am definately agree with the gnome philosophy of minimizing configurability to what is useful,
that really is a necisarry configuration if you want nice integrate into different environments.

Re:About GIMP2 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9860272)

the modifiers were changed to try and have consistant modifiers across all the tools Shift and Control.

the GIMP developers have loudly stated that they are not part of GNOME (even though they use GNOME CVS, and GNOME Bugzilla).

They do not use GNOME specific libraries.
They do not follow the GNOME HIG.

Re:About GIMP2 (1)

gnu-generation-one (717590) | more than 9 years ago | (#9857988)

"Is anybody else unhappy with some of the changes in GIMP2?"

Well, the constant crashes on the Windows version aren't an ideal advertisement for free software...

The interface seems about the same though... not particularly easier to use, not particularly harder to use... It's the same tools and panels that were always available, so I wouldn't really expect any great productivity gains from rearranging them.

Best Game: Unreal Tourniment 2004 (2, Insightful)

ylikone (589264) | more than 9 years ago | (#9857858)

The obvious choice... I mean, were there any other commercial games released this year for Linux?

Re:Best Game: Unreal Tourniment 2004 (1)

Zorilla (791636) | more than 9 years ago | (#9857887)

I, for one, feel like counting chickens before they hatch and award Doom 3 the best Linux game of all time!!!!111111

Disclaimer: Not intentionally trolling.

IBM Thinkpad T41 (3, Informative)

cuban321 (644777) | more than 9 years ago | (#9857871)

Yes! I have a Thinkpad T41, and it's what dreams are made of. I will never own another brand of laptop again.

The box runs linux great, there is a great thinkpad linux mailing list, the battery life is amazing and it's fast as hell.

Good choice linux journal...

cuban

Re:IBM Thinkpad T41 (1)

moreati (119629) | more than 9 years ago | (#9858034)

This isn't a flame, I'm curious whether my aesthetics are different to the majority. Also everything I've read and heard says IBM laptops rock, which I don't doubt. I'd love to have a Thinkpad X31

However, does anyone else find the design of all IBM Thinkpads to be absolutely butt ugly? Yes they're distinctive & not just another silvery Powerbook ripoff, but they just look so cheap and plasticy - like something out of the bargain bin.

Anyone else?

Re:IBM Thinkpad T41 (1)

cuban321 (644777) | more than 9 years ago | (#9858055)

No,no,no.

They are not cheap and plasticy. They are made of some sort of VERY sturdy material. I'm not sure what else to call it but carbon, but their are tough as hell. Especially the back of the LCDs.

That's actually the first reason I bought one. I travel around the city everyday and needed something that wouldn't break easily (like a Dell or HP, which ARE made of cheap plastic).

Re:IBM Thinkpad T41 (1)

moreati (119629) | more than 9 years ago | (#9858919)

Sorry, I knew I wouldn't be clear enough.

I totally agree (from all reports, I've no longterm direct experience) that they're sturdy, robust, of high build quality and generally good.

I just don't think they look it, to me the rubberised black with red trim looks awful - it reminds of how 'portable computers' looked in the pre-pentium days. It doesn't look the part compared to just about any other laptop.

Great laptops, just very bad looking.

Alex

Re:IBM Thinkpad T41 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9858968)

> - it reminds of how 'portable computers' looked in the pre-pentium days.

That's because ThinkPads actually did look like that in the pre-pentium days. The design of the TP has changed very little in their 12 years existance. They've gotten a lot thinner, but that's about it.

> Great laptops, just very bad looking.

That's pretty subjective. I happen to like the design, and I'm far from the only one.

Re:IBM Thinkpad T41 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9860010)

The design is on purpose. All IBM machines from laptops to mainframes are black. It was made to match the color of the death star, the Emporer insisted way back in 1978...

Re:IBM Thinkpad T41 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9858221)

Yes they're distinctive & not just another silvery Powerbook ripoff, but they just look so cheap and plasticy - like something out of the bargain bin.

I've read that they're made from carbon fiber (the case) and have some sort of strong alloy frame underneath the shell (titanium I think).

The deal breaker for me was what I call the "pointing booger"..err trackpoint device. They added a touchpad to the model I'm interested in so that's no longer an issue. Linux compatibility, as previously mentioned, is a plus.

Re:IBM Thinkpad T41 (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9858665)

All Thinkpads look like that since the very first model from 1992 [aichi.to] : a rectangular black slab with a small logo on the corner in RGB. Thinkpads are not designed to attract attact attention to themselves. Powerbooks are basically designed make you advertise for Apple whenever you're working on them. Even the logo is upside down, so that everybody around you sees it in the "correct" position.

ThinkPad T41? (1)

cyberkahn (398201) | more than 9 years ago | (#9857889)

The ThinkPad T41 is currently priced at $2,522.13 [ibm.com] . They couldn't find another laptop that is more cost effective than that? One of the benefits of Linux is first the OS is free, but also it doesn't require the Spartan hardware of Windows. For $2,522.13 I could simple get one of these [apple.com] and not worry about getting sound drivers etc. to work.

Re:ThinkPad T41? (1)

r.jimenezz (737542) | more than 9 years ago | (#9857909)

That's funny. This [ibm.com] is what Google found me, as I also rushed to check the marvel laptop :) Note however that this configuration is 1.4 GHz instead of 1.7 and a 40 GB HDD instead of a 60 GB one.

Re:ThinkPad T41? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9857925)

Start adding on the features of the powerbook e.g. DVD-RW and then the price moves up to the powerbook range. You are looking at a bare bones IBM lappie.

Re:ThinkPad T41? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9858024)

Don't forget to add AppleCare (+ $349) to get the three year warranty like IBM.

Actually, that's a pretty good comparison (1)

jbellis (142590) | more than 9 years ago | (#9858237)

Thinkpads and Powerbooks are the top-of-the-line laptops available today. Period. Which you go for is substantially a matter of taste, but my brother (who bought a powerbook) has been coveting my thinkpad T40 (third thinkpad model I've owned) more than a little lately, OSX notwithstanding.

Social networking sites are nothing new (4, Interesting)

SuperBanana (662181) | more than 9 years ago | (#9857896)

Reuven points out that the all-in-one social network sites LinkedIn, Orkut and Ryze aren't particularly useful, but he says they're "all scratching the surface of something new and interesting."

Bull. There's nothing older; a friend invited me to join friendster, and my first comment to her was:

"Jesus Christ, it's high school, all over again."

It's an electronic popularity contest, with a little bit of recruitment thrown in. Most of us sit on the sidelines and watch as the really popular people amass a huge collection of friends.

Not surprisingly, a huge number of these young 20-somethings were from NYC, and almost all of them were exactly the type I can't stand- drunk-every-night clubbers. My personal favorite was some rich-bitch french girl who was almost completely naked in all of her shots on some beach. Her profile was truly a piece of work. Example: "Things I enjoy: Not having to work. Ever."

Friendster attracts the biggest concentration of intellectual-stuck-ups, prisses, and vanity-obsessed people I've seen in my life. Given Orkut is higher profile and more exclusive, I would imagine it's even worse.

Re:Social networking sites are nothing new (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9857924)

Feeling rejected?

Re:Social networking sites are nothing new (3, Funny)

gmhowell (26755) | more than 9 years ago | (#9858202)

My personal favorite was some rich-bitch french girl who was almost completely naked in all of her shots on some beach.

You are so full of crap. Prove it. Show me a link. Let me see the pictures and judge for myself.

Re:Social networking sites are nothing new (1)

InsaneCreator (209742) | more than 9 years ago | (#9858212)

Friendster attracts the biggest concentration of intellectual-stuck-ups, prisses, and vanity-obsessed people I've seen in my life

Invite me! Invite me! Oh God, please invite me...

I would've liked to see MySQL win (-1, Troll)

Sasha Slutsker (799836) | more than 9 years ago | (#9858025)

PostgreSQL is good, but I prefer MySQL even though it violates certain standards. Its just faster that PostgreSQL and it's release on GPL instead of the BSD license.

Re:I would've liked to see MySQL win (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9858565)

Its just faster that PostgreSQL

Proof, please.

it's release on GPL instead of the BSD license

Ignorance. An end-user doesn't care. BSD is so much freer that you can just take the BSD code, GPL it, add your changes and require that any other changes (to your modifications) be GPL'd.

Re:I would've liked to see MySQL win (4, Interesting)

jadavis (473492) | more than 9 years ago | (#9858904)

GPL instead of the BSD license

Funny how MySQL releases even the client libraries as GPL instead of LGPL.

That means you can't even ship your non-GPL product with MySQL support unless you buy a commercial license from MySQL AB. Commercial databases such as Oracle don't even have this restriction!

Re:I would've liked to see MySQL win (1)

Unordained (262962) | more than 9 years ago | (#9859323)

... and also note that mysql wants to charge you a fee if you use it in your business (if it ever makes a difference in your revenue) regardless of whether or not you want support.

postgresql and firebird are both free for personal -and- corporate use, as I recall. they're both slower for the sorts of things mysql users usually want (retrieve by id, grab entire slice of the db to post-process in app code), but both enforce constraints, have stored procedures, good transaction handling (a comment above says postgres is getting savepoints, firebird already has savepoints; postgres is also from the looks of it getting nested transactions which firebird isn't), etc ... and you are free to make non-gpl apps with support for these databases (and even include a copy of the db installer too) even in corporate settings. I suppose the mysql-killer would be a featureless version of either of these db's -- faster, less sane, but still free ...

MyPostgreSQL (1)

InsaneCreator (209742) | more than 9 years ago | (#9858122)

the MySQL team is making impressive inroads, and I expect to see them close the gap with PostgreSQL in the coming years

He should take a look at the list of new features in the upcoming version of PostgreSQL which includes savepoints, point in time recovery, tablespaces and a bunch of smaller stuff. Meanwhile, MySQL folks are still struggling with some features which were supported by Postgres almost a decade ago. I'd say the gap is getting bigger, not smaller. Much bigger!

Sure, MySQL is great for what it's used for most, but I don't think it is getting anywhere near being a heavyweight database engine. It does make a nice retrieve-by-id shortcut for displaying web page content, though.

Re:MyPostgreSQL (1)

killjoe (766577) | more than 9 years ago | (#9858523)

Postgresql is awsome but so are firebird and sapdb. This year ingres from CA is about to be open sourced. I have never used it but it's certainly an enterprise ready database.

If you ask me the people at mysql should abandon their quest to make mysql into postgres. Every feature you add is just going to make it slower and more complicated so why not leave mysql as the lightweight, fast alternative to full featured databases I listed above.

Re:MyPostgreSQL (1)

jadavis (473492) | more than 9 years ago | (#9859105)

people at mysql should abandon their quest to make mysql into postgres

I haven't seen much evidence that MySQL wants to be like PostgreSQL.

My impression is that MySQL outright rejects many fundamental philosophies of PostgreSQL. For instance, in MySQL, it's legal to enter the date Feb 31st. I'm confident that the MySQL developers could fix that, but their philosophy is to put the responsibility into the application. MySQL also has the philosphy that if an error is encountered, keep going.

Contrast with PostgreSQL, which regidly enforces contraints and will most certainly give you an error if it encounters any problem or ambiguity. It also allows application developers to place more responsibility on the database.

The MySQL approach is perfectly valid. After all it's easier (read: cheaper) to stack up more application servers than to cluster a database.

However, I rarely see business rules effectively enforced in an application. Also, consider if you have multiple applications accessing the same database. If your data is inconsistant with your business rules, where is the bug? It could be in any of the applications, and it could be compounded throughout all of them as they see the invalid data. It's a debugging nightmare. Contrast with PostgreSQL: you just have constraints to enforce your business rules, and the app with the bug will encounter an error and will be stopped in its tracks before another application is affected.

Re:MyPostgreSQL (1)

killjoe (766577) | more than 9 years ago | (#9859522)

The folks at mysql are busy adding things like stored procedures, triggers and all kinds of doodads. They already have sapdb so why bother. Keep mysql what it is. A lightweight sql interface for the filesystem.

Re:MyPostgreSQL (1)

jadavis (473492) | more than 9 years ago | (#9858938)

I'd also like to add a couple points:

(1) PostgreSQL will have a native win32 port

(2) It has a new caching algorithm which should significantly improve the cache hit rate in most real-world situations. Specifically, they are changing from a "least-recently updated" algorithm (LRU) to a system that accounts for how often the page was accessed. In the old caching system, if a large table scan was done, the cache would be polluted and your small, frequently-accessed table wouldn't be in cache.

(3) point-in-time recovery implies incremental backups, which are also very valuable

Congrats to GnuCash (4, Informative)

D. Book (534411) | more than 9 years ago | (#9858211)

Congratulations to GnuCash on winning the "Desktop Software" category.

Nice to see some recognition for one of the most unglamorous and underappreciated of all the major free software projects. Originally a Quicken user, I started feeling disempowered by its mandatory activation/registration (in the Australian edition) and reports from other users that the next version displayed advertising (of Quicken's services). It made me angry enough to search for alternatives, and I was sufficently motivated to create a partition for GNU/Linux specifically so that I could use GnuCash once a week. Not something I'd expect Joe User to do, but experienced Windows tinkerers like myself can certainly handle it, and the experience will also make my eventual switch to Linux easier. I've seen where Windows and proprietary software is pushing the industry (toward DRM, software patents, more products needing activation, etc.) and I don't like it one bit. But I digress...

I would like to comment that GnuCash is frequently criticised as being too difficult for personal finances because of the "double-entry" system it uses. People who don't know better see the words "double entry" and the first thing they think (incorrectly) is "WTF, I have to enter each transaction TWICE?!". Please stop scaring people away with this FUD because, in a practical sense, GnuCash's double-entry foundation is of little consequence to former users of Quicken or similar programs. All it means is that everything that Quicken calls a "category" is an "account" instead. The power of the centuries old accounting practice is there if you need it, but in day to day use there's hardly a difference. Some people believe that GnuCash is more difficult to use than Quicken, but this has more to do with others things (perhaps its interface and the fact that it's also intended to cater to business users).

Re:Congrats to GnuCash (1)

Ikester8 (768098) | more than 9 years ago | (#9860267)

I admit, I was one of the folks frightened away by the term "double-entry bookkeeping", so I started using CBTracker instead. It's a nice little checkbook program that's simpler than Quicken but is quite adequate for most people.

morons journal choice words for the PostBlock (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9858272)

censorship devise.

talk about buyassed? plus, it almost never works.

the ?choices? are ?obvious??

consult with/trust in yOUR creators... not getting/taking the 'credit' for their/yOUR work, since/until forever? see you there?

Bitkeeper over Subversion? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9858652)

Does anyone have insight as to why Bitkeeper was chosen over Subversion? This surprised me; am I the only one?

Translation (1)

bobstevens_took_my_n (799815) | more than 9 years ago | (#9859136)

Our editors are all business and turned up their noses at selecting favorite games. These are the kind of people you want to hire to roll out your company desktop systems.

Translation:

"We didn't want to do any research. That doesn't make us bad journalists... does it??

Game award is a disgrace. (2, Insightful)

jotaeleemeese (303437) | more than 9 years ago | (#9859752)

I am a subscriber of the magazine and frankly found their choice of "game" abysmal since what they chose is not a game, no matter how they want to spin it.

I think Linux game developpers, that are fighting one of the most ungrateful tasks to make a Linux desktop a reality, should not be thrilled by being blantantly ignored by people that are suppossed to be knowledgable about Linux.

If the LJ editors do not use games, then the honorable choice would have been to either not to give an award or to delegate the selection on people knowledgable about this field.

Of all the possible choices they took the worst: to insult the intelligence of their readers and of Linux game developpers.
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