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Olympics to Have Live Online Coverage, But Not For Americans

michael posted more than 9 years ago | from the because-they-hate-you dept.

The Media 438

Rytsarsky writes "According to this AP story (mirror), live video from the Olympics will be viewable online. However, 'the footage will be highly restricted to protect lucrative broadcast contracts, which are sold by territory - $793 million paid by NBC alone. Web sites must employ technology to block viewers from outside their home countries, so U.S. Web surfers won't benefit from the BBC's live coverage. They'll have to settle for highlights posted after NBC broadcasts, which are already largely tape-delayed.'" Interestingly, this AP wire story was picked up by CNN.com (it was at this URL and this URL), ran for a few hours, and now has been removed - I guess CNN didn't think it was newsworthy. *shrug*

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I guess CNN didn't think it was newsworthy. (4, Funny)

Chess_the_cat (653159) | more than 9 years ago | (#9903009)

They were right.

Re:I guess CNN didn't think it was newsworthy. (0)

Daetrin (576516) | more than 9 years ago | (#9903155)

I guess CNN didn't think it was newsworthy.
They were right.
Support the First Amendment: Read at -1.

I sure hope you were joking. But if not, the disparity between your comment; that you don't think this news item was worth reading, and your sig; that we shouldn't pay attention to what other people think is worth reading, is amusing enough on it's own.

So i will follow your advice and, after a brief pause for laughter, ignore what you just said :)

Thank the Bush administration (-1, Flamebait)

sbrown123 (229895) | more than 9 years ago | (#9903192)

Just a little gossip chatter that there is fears of "anti-American" slogans being displayed at the games. The Olympics board has no control over what the BBC decides to cover which could possible include such footage. So, a little censorship should prevent us from thinking no one out there likes us. That will make them go away right?

Re:Thank the Bush administration (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9903269)

yes, everythng is bushes fault.

you were late for work this morning, but i bet you can pin it on him.

you probably sit around thinking , "fucking bush, what a jerk i hate him so much"

dont you get tired of whining like a little insecure, retarded cocksucker?

get over it, no one has liked the US for about 55 years. time to accept that a move on.

Re:Thank the Bush administration (0, Flamebait)

garcia (6573) | more than 9 years ago | (#9903324)

yes, everythng is bushes fault.

Actually, you're 100% right about it not being Bush's fault. He's not fucking smart enough to think that we need to play perestroika with the Olympics. His asshole cronies, OTOH, are smart enough. Why do you think that they instituted "Free Speech Zones"? They don't want Bush's feelings to be hurt when he sees signs that read "Bush is a coke snorting, beer pissing, cock sucker that kills people for money."

get over it, no one has liked the US for about 55 years. time to accept that a move on.

And yet, a good majority of the population isn't even aware of it. Yeah, we live in a free world my ass. We are under just as much spin as ever.

Open proxies (1)

Sadiq (103621) | more than 9 years ago | (#9903013)

Helloooo open proxies.

Re:Open proxies (-1, Offtopic)

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This is what Open Proxies are for (4, Interesting)

gorbachev (512743) | more than 9 years ago | (#9903014)

Just use an open proxy in Europe and you'll be wathing the games live as well.

Re:This is what Open Proxies are for (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9903085)

Just use an open proxy in Europe and you'll be wathing the games live as well.

Shhh, you're going to hurt NBC's feelings.

Re:This is what Open Proxies are for (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9903087)

This is not necessarily(sp?) true. First of all, a proxy cannot handle the requests for all the traffic (most likely , as most proxies are slow). Secondly, many irc servers and other sites nowadays can traceback through a proxy to detect the original ip of the client.

I had a user who was banned and tried using proxies for IE and it still would not let him connect =)

Re:This is what Open Proxies are for (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9903109)

You banned a user from using IE. Man your hard core. Go lynx...

Re:This is what Open Proxies are for (4, Informative)

gorbachev (512743) | more than 9 years ago | (#9903154)

That's why you check in advance whether the open proxy reveals the originating IP address or not.

If the proxy is slow, use another one. I do it all the time.

My home country's laws about alocohol advertising used to require advertisers to block all access to websites advertising alcoholic products produced in my country to the residents of the country. All foreigners could access the sites all they could. It really didn't take long to find an open proxy outside the borders to check out what was on the site (wasn't worth the effort).

Re:This is what Open Proxies are for (3, Informative)

wfberg (24378) | more than 9 years ago | (#9903199)

That's why you check in advance whether the open proxy reveals the originating IP address or not.


IRC servers check to see whether your connection is from an open proxy by connecting to it/portscanning; by definition IRC connections don't contain HTTP headers that reveal the originating IP address.

Re:This is what Open Proxies are for (3, Funny)

gorbachev (512743) | more than 9 years ago | (#9903325)

I don't think they will be streaming the Olympics over an IRC server...

Re:This is what Open Proxies are for (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9903171)

Regarding your first point, what about peercast and other p2p streaming applications?

Re:This is what Open Proxies are for (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9903207)

Uh, what's to stop someone from just mirroring a stream of it in something like nsv and letting Americans watch it like that. Not exactly "live" per se, but the time difference would be much less. I've watched a number of German and Russian broadcasts fairly easily through winamp myself, as well as "independent" coverage of the DNC. The time delay was under a minute from what I remember. Lots of bandwidth required I suppose, but all it takes is one server and a bunch of relays to make it possible. Am I missing something?

Re:This is what Open Proxies are for (1)

TopShelf (92521) | more than 9 years ago | (#9903264)

Forget open - I'm lucky enough (in this case, at least) to work in the US for a Swedish company, so I should be able to view these just fine...

Re:This is what Open Proxies are for (2, Informative)

gorbachev (512743) | more than 9 years ago | (#9903299)

I used to work for a company that had proxy servers in all continents. The US proxies were configured to block just about everything, but not access to the other proxy servers. Kaching! :)

Anytime I couldn't get to a site I needed to (at one point, they blocked every commerce site out there, including book stores I was using to buy books I needed for work), I would just point my browser to one of the foreign proxies.

Worked for all the IM clients as well. US proxy blocked all IM traffic, the foreign ones didn't.

Re:This is what Open Proxies are for (1)

Jugalator (259273) | more than 9 years ago | (#9903323)

Just use an open proxy in Europe and you'll be wathing the games live as well.

Poor proxy... :-(

pssht (-1, Flamebait)

scaaven (783465) | more than 9 years ago | (#9903018)

can someone say 'proxy server'

OK (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9903054)

proxy server

i agree (1)

JeanBaptiste (537955) | more than 9 years ago | (#9903058)

i was thinking of making an olympic website, im curious if I do go get live feeds by way of proxy or something, and then I post that on my website.... .... what sort of trouble would I be in? any lawyer types out there?

Re:i agree (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9903249)

20 years in US jail?

$100,000 fine per clip?

Boycott! (2, Interesting)

TheCarp (96830) | more than 9 years ago | (#9903306)

Thats fine I suppose....

But is it really that important?

I look at it this way... if the people who run the olympics are so deeply in corperate broadcasters pcokets that they are willing to put up restrictions like this... do I even want to give them the benefit of watching?

I think not. I thought it was bad enough when I realised how political the whole Olympic Games were. Now that it seems to be going more and more corperate, its finnaly the last straw.

I will not be watching a single Olympic event, on the internet, on TV, hearing it on the radio etc. They are, as far as I am concerned, a complete non-event so much so that they may as well not even happen. The entire circus is dead to me.

I shall, from this day forward acknoledge the olympics in only 2 ways.

1. As a part of History. Obviously they happened. They caused traffic jams in whatever city they were in, etc.

2. I shall henceforth encourage all others who mention the Olympics to join me in not watching it.

Wont you join me too? Does it really matter? Sure its cool to watch people run around and compete at physical things, but is it really worth supporting these large corperations that are happy to engage in agreements that take away your choice as a consumer just to squeeze a few more dollars into their already overflowing coffers?

This is simple greed, and I have a personal problem with it. Hence, I will do something that even the libertarians out there can't disagree with. I am voting with my eyes and my dollars. I am not watching the olympics and avoiding anything that supports is.

Its not that this is the be all nd end all, it was entirely too nationalistic and corperate long before this, this is just the straw that broke this camels back.

Wont you join me?

-Steve

Should this be YRO? (5, Insightful)

ShortedOut (456658) | more than 9 years ago | (#9903030)

Should we let Ad companies dictate not only what we can or cannot see on televison, but what we can, or cannot access via Interent?

These ad guys go to far, and, of course, the media will cover up stuff like that. Free press my ass.

Re:Should this be YRO? (1)

gardyloo (512791) | more than 9 years ago | (#9903064)

These ad guys go to far, and, of course, the media will cover up stuff like that. Free press my ass.

Ahem.

Re:Should this be YRO? (4, Insightful)

NanoGator (522640) | more than 9 years ago | (#9903098)

"Should we let Ad companies dictate not only what we can or cannot see on televison, but what we can, or cannot access via Interent?"

Seeing as how they're paying the bills...

Re:Should this be YRO? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9903216)

Paying the bills for what exactly?

Re:Should this be YRO? (3, Interesting)

wfberg (24378) | more than 9 years ago | (#9903300)

"Should we let Ad companies dictate not only what we can or cannot see on televison, but what we can, or cannot access via Interent?"

Seeing as how they're paying the bills...


Well, if that's your attitude, don't come complaining about any perceived "conservative" or "liberal" bias in the media. Unless you're the advertiser paying said media to be biased the way you tell them to be, of course.

Re:Should this be YRO? (2, Insightful)

consolidatedbord (689996) | more than 9 years ago | (#9903152)

Free press my ass.

What? It's the video stream from a different country, not the US, not protected/regulated by any rules/laws/etc from our country. I'm sure there are are many broadcasts that we have had in the US that we have not necessarily shared with other countries. Almost sounds like it's cheap of our broadcasting companies to not pay into such coverage. This sounds like a stupid case of "poor us" for the US, when really, there are lots of other countries out there not getting this footage, let alone ANY footage of the games.

Re:Should this be YRO? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9903267)

>>there are lots of other countries out there
>>not getting this footage, let alone ANY
>>footage of the games.

Really?

Name one.

Re:Should this be YRO? (3, Interesting)

Lawbeefaroni (246892) | more than 9 years ago | (#9903211)

It doesn't seem like "ad companies" are directly involved. NBC pays $700+ million and as part of the contract want exclusive rights to US broadcast. Being dumbasses, they think they can apply this to online broadcasts so they write that into the contract.

Worldwide outlets that carry the Olympics then are bound in their contracts to honor the exclusivity of other contracts, including NBC's for the US. So they have to try to block access for US "viewers." Sure ad revenue is the reason for the exclusive contracts, but it's the networks and the IOC (or whoever sells the broadcast rights) that are trying to control internet access.

Re:Should this be YRO? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9903289)

This isn't about Ad companies as much as it is about the Olympics, the poster organization for turning a wonderful international institution into the most political pile of shit in the world. The Olympics could (and should) distribute broadcast contracts at a reasonable price to any and every organization that wants it, nixing all this exclusivity crap. Why in hell should only a single TV station in every country be able to broadcast the events? If the Olympics were for real, they would ensure multiple stations in every country show the games, in order to get unbiased coverage. But all they really want is to fatten their own wallets.

MLB.com (4, Insightful)

lukewarmfusion (726141) | more than 9 years ago | (#9903036)

MLB.com does this for their game broadcasts too. I'd gladly pay for a subscription so I could watch the game when I'm at work or on the road.

The point of watching it on the web is that I don't have a TV available, so I'm willing to put up with the crappy quality, high bandwidth, etc. of an Internet broadcast.

If I had a TV, I'd watch that instead. Blackouts are meant to help ticket sales, or to push people into watching the TV station that's paying for the rights. But if TV isn't an option, then I go for radio or internet.

Re:MLB.com (3, Funny)

lukewarmfusion (726141) | more than 9 years ago | (#9903060)

Those preview and submit buttons are so close together. Now everyone thinks I can't even handle HTML.

Where do I return my geek card?

Re:MLB.com (4, Funny)

Finuvir (596566) | more than 9 years ago | (#9903142)

Where do I return my geek card?

You can give it--as well as all the other contents of your wallet--to me, the Wallet Inspector.

Re:MLB.com (1)

skiflyer (716312) | more than 9 years ago | (#9903248)

Did they upgrade? Last year when I tried to get a game they blocked it based on the zip code of my credit card billing address. Which I found odd considering

1)They had no problem charging my card for the game

2)They advertise it as, watch on the road... limey bastards.

Re:MLB.com (1)

lukewarmfusion (726141) | more than 9 years ago | (#9903302)

As I recall, there were plans to block based on the location of the IP source. Which puts my wife's parents, AOL users from Michigan, in Virginia.

Awesome.

The billing address zip code doesn't make sense, because of the reason you described. So their market is then pared down to those fans that live in areas outside of where the TV broadcasts hit. Which is likely a smaller number than they'd like. I'm guessing it's a losing venture for them. Maybe they're just willing to take a hit for a while and use it as a demo for a bigger rollout. But maybe I'm just an optimist.

torrents? (5, Interesting)

sp00 (639381) | more than 9 years ago | (#9903038)

Can we expect to see these available for download with BT? Almost every other TV show is...

Re:torrents? (2, Funny)

EvilIdler (21087) | more than 9 years ago | (#9903148)

We can. If people will post Neighbours episodes, they'll most
certainly give us sweaty athletes..nothing is below them ;)

Say Hello to Mr Anonymous Proxy Server (2, Funny)

Cryofan (194126) | more than 9 years ago | (#9903045)

Stickin' it to The Man whenever and wherever possible!

Open proxies (1)

Matt Perry (793115) | more than 9 years ago | (#9903046)

Finally, a use for open proxies.

Dusts off SocksCap v2... (1)

rtilghman (736281) | more than 9 years ago | (#9903273)


Nothing quite like a robust multiple socks proxyt client to make one all warm and snugly. Now, to return to my plan to undermine the capitalist machine.

-rt

dumb (1)

Chanc_Gorkon (94133) | more than 9 years ago | (#9903050)

This is dumb....not unexpected, but still dumb. Hmm...lessee....most of us woud still be at work for primetime events in Athens anyway and that would be perfect to drive the net admins batty with streaming packets!

Why the different "not found" pages (1)

/Wegge (2960) | more than 9 years ago | (#9903053)

Does anyone have an idea why the the links to the CNN website gives different variations of the classic 404 theme? Even if the trailing slash is stripped from the http://edition.cnn.com/2004/TECH/internet/08/05/ol ympics.online.ap [cnn.com] link, a plain object not found message is displayed.

Re:Why the different "not found" pages (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9903086)

One probably is handled by their CMS and the other URI falls resolves to something that isn't picked up by their content management system.

Re:Why the different "not found" pages (1)

drkich (305460) | more than 9 years ago | (#9903118)

Bacause the first server www.cnn.com is more than likely configured differently than the edition.cnn.com server.

Re:Why the different "not found" pages (1)

/Wegge (2960) | more than 9 years ago | (#9903212)

Bacause the first server www.cnn.com is more than likely configured differently than the edition.cnn.com server.

Of course. Blame on me for not looking at the first part of the URL.

Re:Why the different "not found" pages (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9903151)

I'd wanger that the diffrent errors are caused becuase "http://edition.cnn.com/2004/TECH/internet/08/05/o lympics.online.ap" looks for a file named "olympics.online.ap" in the directory "2004/TECH/internet/08/05/" and is covered by a general file not found error, while "http://edition.cnn.com/2004/TECH/internet/08/05/o lympics.online.ap/" (with a slash) looks for the default page in the directory "2004/TECH/internet/08/05/olympics.online.ap/" and runs in to a page removed file/script/etc.

Either I'm not Karma whoring or too lazy to login, I'll let you deciede that one

Deep Throat said ... (4, Interesting)

RWarrior(fobw) (448405) | more than 9 years ago | (#9903057)

"Follow the money."

At least since Los Angeles in 1984 (which is as long as I've been following it), it hasn't been about sport or competition or peace.

It's been about bribery, profits, and raking in the dough.

So does any of this surprise us?

Re:Deep Throat said ... (5, Informative)

Santana (103744) | more than 9 years ago | (#9903305)

It has always been so since the begining

español [rd.com]

English [rd-india.com]

All the myths around Olympics ("to win is not important", "amateurs only", "the torch", "the olympic spirit") was invented by Pierre de Coubertin who founded the modern Olympic Games

Re:Deep Throat said ... (1)

theManInTheYellowHat (451261) | more than 9 years ago | (#9903326)

So does any of this surprise us?
No but it should disgust us. US$793M for rights to broadcast seems a bit rediculous.

However this has been the way it has always been. There is a nice artical in Smithsonian [si.edu] this month about how the ancient Greeks actually did it and there was pleanty of bribery, profits, and raking in the dough back then too.

It's all about the money... (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9903061)

Where's the time that the Olympics were about sport. Now it's all about money. Look at the corruption scandal which was brought out by BBC, the numerous cases of doping discovered recently (in cycling, athletics, soccer,...). And now this, people cannot even have Free access to images about the event, just because some people again want to get more money out of it. It's sad.

Re:It's all about the money... (1)

garcia (6573) | more than 9 years ago | (#9903140)

the numerous cases of doping discovered recently (in cycling, athletics, soccer,...).

Doping has been big news in swimming. The Germans in the 1980s, the Chinese women in the 1990s, and then various random samplings of high-level atheletes that gained there status through the use of designer steroids and whiskey in their piss.

Re:It's all about the money... (1)

mikael (484) | more than 9 years ago | (#9903247)

Not forgetting the insanely large amounts of money used to subsidise the construction of the olympic village.

Really? (1)

Blob Pet (86206) | more than 9 years ago | (#9903256)

I thought it was about the mind-numbing number of feel good stories about the atheletes and the endless droning on of commentators. Oh and throw in the tape delays and the restriction of some events to cable tv stations that not everybody has access to. It's made NBC and CBS coverage of the olympics become absolutely intolerable. I'll probably just watch the US men's basketball team struggle to medal just so I can get a laugh.

proxy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9903065)

anonymouse.ws

Work Around? (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9903073)

IIRC, icravetv.com used a zip code based system to identify their "legal" (canadian) users from their "illegal" (american) users. Type in a Canadian zip code and off you go.

all greek to us (-1, Troll)

Doc Ruby (173196) | more than 9 years ago | (#9903074)

this AP wire story was picked up by CNN.com [...], ran for a few hours, and now has been removed

The CNN execs probably decided it would play better on CNN International, rather than add to the antiAmerican bashing by the liberal media.

President Bush Says: (1, Funny)

TheKingOfTorts (793076) | more than 9 years ago | (#9903083)

America has been wronged. The BBC clearly hates freedom. Effective noon tomorrow, we will be invading the small island nation of BBC. Their weapons of mass communication must be obliterated: if we can't have the Olympics, no one can.

Re:President Bush Says: (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9903301)

do you ever get sick of those lame attempts to make fun of bush ?

(and they are quite lame btw)

seriously, dont you have anything insightful to say, or just the equiv of "tehehe bush sucks"

why dont for one single day, you stop badmouthing bush? not because i particularly like him, but just it sounds like you blame everything in your pathetic life on him

The United States Is The Real Target Of BushCo (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9903341)

Courtesy of BBC [guardian.co.uk]

"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we," George Bush told an audience of military brass and Pentagon chiefs. "They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."

Curmudgeonly as always,
Kilgore Trout

Ah yes, "Freedom" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9903092)

in the Land of Money.

NO LIVE COVERAGE?! Aaaaaargh!!!!!! (-1, Offtopic)

grahamkg (5290) | more than 9 years ago | (#9903100)

Uh, when are the Olympics? Where are they being held? I just recently heard they were this year. As if I cared...

1250 hours of coverage? I don't need the net. (3, Interesting)

garcia (6573) | more than 9 years ago | (#9903101)

On top of that, U.S. viewers must verify their identity using a credit card from Visa - an NBC advertiser - though they will not be charged.

Not a Visa cardholder? You're out of luck.


Interesting but not surprising. I'm surprised you don't have to prove you were one of the 8% of the population that ate at McDonalds that day...

Some European broadcasters are limiting video to high-speed, broadband customers only, seeking to keep foreigners from connecting via international phone calls.

Oh fuck you, give me a break, no one is going to download Olympics video over dialup via an international call. It's just not worth it. Perhaps AmEx would love for you to pay for that call on their card?

"Of course you get frustrated you can't do everything you want, but compared to four years ago, this is incredibly much better," said Kristian Elster, who works on the Web site for Norwegian broadcaster NRK.

Maybe in Norway you can't see the shit on TV. NBC comes over the air here and you see a ton of stuff. Most of the really boring shit is on during the day and they play the important races at prime time (live or not). Watching video via the net doesn't impress me.

Fans are the ultimate winners, Joerg said. Even with some 12,000 hours of total TV coverage across Europe, "you cannot cover all," he said. "Broadband and mobile technology can complement the traditional television coverage."

No you can't and most of it sucks anyway. What's shown is generally the important/good stuff. At least in my experience. 1250 hours of coverage is a lot.

Olympic what ? (1, Troll)

bushboy (112290) | more than 9 years ago | (#9903103)

Does anyone watch the games these days ?
I hear more about strike action and doping than the athletes.

Wake me up when there's a final medal count...

well (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9903119)

In Sovjet Russia the live coverage watches you!

Thieves and Liars (4, Insightful)

bs_testability (784693) | more than 9 years ago | (#9903122)

Wow.
Usually I support the pirates and get pretty beat up around here.
Now I'm looking at a full page of posts detailing how to infringe on these distribution rights.
Is this a major flip-flop or are these posters different from the usual crowd around here?

stick it to the man!
free the bits!

Re:Thieves and Liars (1)

Bill_Royle (639563) | more than 9 years ago | (#9903210)

No, it's just a convergence of bipolar readers feeling the same way. Give them a few minutes, there'll be some flip-flopping.

Re:Thieves and Liars (3, Funny)

isbhod (556556) | more than 9 years ago | (#9903257)

flip flopping @ slashdot ??? no, never, surely you jest.*


*note sarcasim here

Technical question (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9903130)

Wouldn't this be easy to get around by someone using a proxy or something?

crappy American coverage (1)

bandy (99800) | more than 9 years ago | (#9903132)

And of course they'll only cover the "name" events or ones that we have a hope of winning. And they'll have a "LIVE" bug at the top of the screen, even though it will be tape-delayed by at least half a day.

Article was wrong? (1)

Spl0it (541008) | more than 9 years ago | (#9903137)

I clearly remember already reading this article that stated the UK and USA would be the only countries to receive live web coverage. There was a section about how CBC (in canada) was not going to be part of this and canadians would have to suffer with just highlights.

Go slashdot! (4, Funny)

glassware (195317) | more than 9 years ago | (#9903144)

Alright slashdotters! You just solved Katie Jones' domain name dispute. Where are you going next? To the Olympic coverage problem!!!

Re:Go slashdot! (5, Funny)

WebMasterJoe (253077) | more than 9 years ago | (#9903204)

Alright slashdotters! You just solved Katie Jones' domain name dispute. Where are you going next? To the Olympic coverage problem!!!
How the hell are we all going to fit in the slashdot cruiser?

This just in, I-90 has been slashdotted!

If you'd read the article (1)

Bill_Royle (639563) | more than 9 years ago | (#9903168)

It indicates that content providers have to do a series of lookups to verify you are within their scope of coverage. Proxy detection is apparently in place (how good though is hard to say without testing).

Still, the Olympics have been boring as hell since 84. Plus, considering the Balco (sp?) steroid scandal and how the USOC is reacting to it, it's hard to trust that the athletes aren't all hopped up anyhow.

Table Tennis (1)

mailman-zero (730254) | more than 9 years ago | (#9903177)

Every time the Olympics are on I try and see if I can watch the (usually) one day that Table Tennis is to be shown on television. Every time I've done that the television broadcasts always have focused primarilly on Artistic Gymnastics and other things I don't care about. In 1992 I watched all day on that day and all I saw were about 2 minutes worth of highlights and results in a small box superimposed over the other sports.

All I'm saying is I was hoping to get live coverage of Table Tennis this Olympics. So much for that pipe dream.

proxies w/o PROXY_FOR support (5, Interesting)

cjsteele (27556) | more than 9 years ago | (#9903237)

so, what's to stop a high-speed provider in the UK from setting up a squid proxy with the "forwarded_for off" line in the config? I mean, come on, really this is utterly retarded.

Re:proxies w/o PROXY_FOR support (1)

techgeek10101 (638645) | more than 9 years ago | (#9903271)

Zacly... Attention all "allies".. squid us asap...

Tor and a nation-free Internet (1)

0x0d0a (568518) | more than 9 years ago | (#9903343)

Also, Tor, the anonymizing onion-skin routing system mentioned on Slashdot yesterday, could be modified to allow requesting an endpoint in the country in question, bypassing attempts to block connections based on nation.

Funk Legend Rick James found dead at 56 (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9903261)

Funk legend Rick James was found dead in his california apartment today. He was 56. Even if you didn't enjoy his funk hits you probably enjoyed a rap song that sampled them. Truely an American icon.

Tunnels and Competition.... What a mess... (1)

eamacnaghten (695001) | more than 9 years ago | (#9903266)

Can anyone at NBC say "ssh tunelling"? I would have thought it would be better to try to get people to watch your TV stations by providing a better service than the one transmitted down braodband (I cannot believe that is difficult) rather than trying to block out competition (which by using proxy servers would be easy to circumvent anyway). What happened to good old fashioned US cpaitalist competition?

Funny (3, Insightful)

ttyp0 (33384) | more than 9 years ago | (#9903278)

This is the first time I've ever considered using a proxy outside the US to view content. Isn't usually the other way around?

Your own fault for having that revolution (5, Funny)

jellybear (96058) | more than 9 years ago | (#9903284)

Otherwise, maybe you could watching BBC live olympic coverage online too.

Re:Your own fault for having that revolution (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9903328)

ROFL!

nbc (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9903322)

What about all those events NBC never ever show on TV anyways?
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