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Bluesniper Creator Interviewed on Gizmodo

michael posted about 10 years ago | from the long-shot dept.

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carbolic writes "Gizmodo interviews John Hering, one of the Bluedriving crew (of which I was one: picture) and creator of the Bluesniper rifle. Get the backstory on the recent 1.08 mile cellphone Bluesnarf attack and find out his motivation for building the rifle and trying a snarf to a cellphone you can't even see."

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IP Theft and The Linux Community (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9907933)

The Linux community likes to hide behind the mantra of free and open
software for all and as such has the twisted mindset that all software
should be free for everyone. This should come as no surprise seeing
that the Linux community seems to take pride in stealing anything they
can get their hands on and breaking laws designed to protect IP at the
same time.

Linux users have been advocating downloading Microsoft True Type Fonts
for years mostly because their own fonts and font system in general
has been so horrific that Linux screen fonts in most stock installs
are almost unreadable. Of course they will claim that Linux fonts are
great but if that were really the case why is the internet clogged
with Linux Font DeUglification documents written by Linux users?

They even have documents that give a step by step procedure for
stealing the Microsoft fonts and installing them on Linux systems!
Notice in particular the instructions for the Tahoma font.

Next we have Linux users violating the EULA for the X-Box and
tinkering with it so that it can run Linux.
Why on earth any sane person would want to take a bitching game
machine like X-box and ruin it by installing Linux is a mystery to me.

Pay particular attention to the question about it being illegal and
how they avoid answering the question.

They are also doing the same thing with Sony Play station as well.

None of this is going to hold up in a court of law and the Linux
people who are leading these projects are looking for some serious
trouble should Microsoft and Sony decide to pursue this matter.

Finally we have the suit filed by SCO which claims that the Linux
community at large has incorporated stolen code into it's open source
programs.,3959,936269,00.a sp

This should come as no surprise to anyone who has followed the Linux
movement from the day Linux wrote the kernel.

The Linux community has proven themselves to be a fight to the end,
steal whatever can be stolen from big business because it is big
business that is killing Linux.

The Linux community has absolutely no respect for the property of
others and will resort to any type of clandestine tactics to steal
whatever isn't cemented down all in the good name of Linux.

So if you are thinking of betting your business on Linux software, you
had better think it over carefully, because if SCO should win, Linux
will be out of business.
And if SCO should lose, do you really think it is wise to bet your
entire business on software that is supported by a community that
promotes stealing and in fact is full of thieves?

Food for thought.

Re:IP Theft and The Linux Community (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9907948)

Linux needs to get its act together

Linux is *not* user friendly, and until it is linux will stay with >1% marketshare.

Take installation. Linux zealots are now saying "oh installing is so easy, just do apt-get install package or emerge package": Yes, because typing in "apt-get" or "emerge" makes so much more sense to new users than double-clicking an icon that says "setup".

Linux zealots are far too forgiving when judging the difficultly of Linux configuration issues and far too harsh when judging the difficulty of Windows configuration issues. Example comments:

User: "How do I get Quake 3 to run in Linux?"
Zealot: "Oh that's easy! If you have Redhat, you have to download quake_3_rh_8_i686_010203_glibc.bin, then do chmod +x on the file. Then you have to su to root, make sure you type export LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.2.5 but ONLY if you have that latest libc6 installed. If you don't, don't set that environment variable or the installer will dump core. Before you run the installer, make sure you have the GL drivers for X installed. Get them at [some obscure web address], chmod +x the binary, then run it, but make sure you have at least 10MB free in /tmp or the installer will dump core. After the installer is done, edit /etc/X11/XF86Config and add a section called "GL" and put "driver nv" in it. Make sure you have the latest version of X and Linux kernel 2.6 or else X will segfault when you start. OK, run the Quake 3 installer and make sure you set the proper group and setuid permissions on quake3.bin. If you want sound, look here [link to another obscure web site], which is a short HOWTO on how to get sound in Quake 3. That's all there is to it!"

User: "How do I get Quake 3 to run in Windows?"
Zealot: "Oh God, I had to install Quake 3 in Windoze for some lamer friend of mine! God, what a fucking mess! I put in the CD and it took about 3 minutes to copy everything, and then I had to reboot the fucking computer! Jesus Christ! What a retarded operating system!"

So, I guess the point I'm trying to make is that what seems easy and natural to Linux geeks is definitely not what regular people consider easy and natural. Hence, the preference towards Windows.

Re:IP Theft and The Linux Community (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9907953)

I have to laugh when I read about all of these countries that are
supposedly leaving Windows and converting to Linux. Do these people
even have a clue as to what they are in for?
Do they even realize the immense amount of retraining required to move
to Linux?
Do they realize that the chances of their vertical in house
applications working is nil?
Do they understand that much of their hardware will not be supported?
Converting to Linux was a disaster for my company.

I know I'll be modded 'troll' for this, but its the truth.

I suspect that the answer to all of these questions and many more will
be no because Linux looks like a great alternative, until one looks
closer and sees all of the holes and troublesome problems that Linux

For my company, we would have had to replace over 2000 Brother
Multifunction printers with some model that worked with Linux. The
problem was that we could not find any equivilant.
We tried using the commercial version of Sun Openoffice and found it
buggy and totally incompatabile with Office. We tried sending
documents to our clients and they did not work too well.
It seems that Openoffice, even the pay for version has troubles being
read by Microsoft Office.

Another area that we had massive problems in was with video cards.
We were using ATI cards in our systems and it seems that Linux support
for ATI is pretty poor.

In conclusion, we have decided not to switch to Linux for the simple
reason that Linux does not offer us anything but headaches.
We don't want to downgrade out hardware to use Linux.
We don't wish to look like fools sends documents to clients and
suppliers that they cannot read.

Linux may be fine for some people, but it was a disaster for us.

Maria Quansett

Re:IP Theft and The Linux Community (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9907955)

How to tell if you are a linux fanatic.

AKA a nazi fanatic loser.

1. You rejuvenate and dance when you hear a windows flaw exposed, but you conveniently ignore the thousands of security flaws exposed in linux.

2. You yell loudly TROLL! at any person's post or at any person you see posting facts that you do not want to hear about your oh so cool linux.

3. You know it's a classic case of penis envy, you don't have all the support, software and hardware available for linux and you have to let that anger out somewhere, but you don't have the brains to admit it.

4. You hate windows, hate Microsoft, but race to emulate windows, have programs to run office from within linux, and spend a $300 on a Windows emulator, only Windows fools.

5. You cannot admit that you don't have professional usage of Linux outside server markets.

6. You cannot admit that most of the joe user out there when told that there is linux will respond, what is that?

7. You cannot admit that there is no professional printing capabilities in linux.

8. You cannot admit that you are a masochist (otherwise why would someone spend hours playing with scripts,
and recompiling programs that are available for Windows?)

9. You cannot admit that there is no professional desktop publishing done on Linux.

10. You cannot admit that no one in their right mind would do professional video editing in Linux.

11. You cannot admit that linux sucks when it comes for gaming/home entertainment or education.

12. You have problems in understanding Windows, and you will blame your own incompetence on Microsoft.

13. You have problems in pointing a clicking, but have no problems in wading through cryptic scripts written by lunatics.

14. Nothing will get past that shit that fills your head, you will not admit to any facts.

15. You can't admit that naming of linux components, packages, and others are weird and fits profiles of troubled teenagers. gentoo, lgx, rpm ....

16. You feel angered because you were left out by microsoft's Media technologies, they support Mac, Sun sparc, but not linux.

17. You feel inferior deep inside but unable to admit it, you don't have a database as easy and powerful as Access.

18. You cannot tell that not a single office package outside Microsoft's is worth looking at or bothering with.

19. You don't know that your CD recorder software sucks.

20. You don't have DVD-RAM, DVD-R, DVD-RW support in your pathetic OS.

21. While the rest of the world moves on, you're stuck in a stone age technology that needs third party software to boot into GUI.

22. You act out of prejudice, you kill file domains and users of specific news readers while you ignore the bullshit that your fellow linux losers post.

23. You don't know commercial support in Linux is almost non existent.

24. You miss the fact that companies are leaving linux because of the chaos, and the cheap linux losers who are unwilling to pay and support hard work, Corel, gaming companies,...etc.

25. You are unaware that linux has no terminal services (there is a lame one that no one uses), and commercial support for it is not happening.

26. You are unaware that setting up servers on Windows takes couple of minutes while on linux, good luck playing with configuration scripts.

27. You cannot admit that support for USB on linux is laughable at best.

28. You think that Linux is better because slashdot told you so.

29. You spend countless hours flaming people because they post their opinions about your oh so cool linux and your attitude, instead of researching things for yourself and understanding fact in order not to look this stupid.

30. You think that anyone who uses linux has a clue.

31. You think that linux cannot crash.

32. You think that everyone is interested in your conspiracy theories about Microsoft (or should i say M$ in order for you, teenagers to understand?), and how they destroyed linux, ...etc.

33. You keep ignoring the fact that thousands of linux servers get hacked every year, but it takes one Windows server hacked to get you and your fellow linux idiots to dance and celebrate.

Re:IP Theft and The Linux Community (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9907961)

My Experience with the Linux

I work as a consultant for several fortune 500 companies, and I think
I can shed a little light on the climate of the open source community
at the moment. I believe that part of the reason that open source
based startups are failing left and right is not an issue of marketing
as it's commonly believed but more of an issue of the underlying

I know that that's a strong statement to make, but I have evidence to
back it up! At one of the major corps(5000+ employees) that I consult
for, we wanted to integrate the shareware version of Linux into our
server pool. The allure of not having to pay any restrictive licensing
fees was too great to ignore. I reccomended the installation of
several boxes running the new 2.4.9 kernel, and my hopes were high
that it would perform up to snuff with the Windows 2k boxes which
were(and still are!) doing an AMAZING job at their respective tasks of
serving HTTP requests, DNS, and fileserving.

I consider myself to be very technically inclined having programmed in
VB for the last 8 years doing kernel level programming. I don't
believe in C programming because contrary to popular belief, VB can go
just as low level as C and the newest VB compiler generates code
that's every bit as fast. I took it upon myself to configure the
system from scratch and even used an optimised version of gcc 3.1 to
increase the execution speed of the binaries. I integrated the 3
machines I had configured into the server pool, and I'd have to say
the results were less than impressive... We all know that linux isn't
even close to being ready for the desktop, but I had heard that it was
supposed to perform decently as a "server" based operating system. The
3 machines all went into swap immediately, and it was obvious that
they weren't going to be able to handle the load in this "enterprise"
environment. After running for less than 24 hours, 2 of them had
experienced kernel panics caused by Bind and Apache crashing! Granted,
Apache is a volunteer based project written by weekend hackers in
their spare time while Microsft's IIS has an actual professional full
fledged development team devoted to it. Not to mention the fact that
the Linux kernel itself lacks any support for any type of journaled
filesystem, memory protection, SMP support, etc, but I thought that
since Linux is based on such "old" technology that it would run with
some level of stability. After several days of this type of behaviour,
we decided to reinstall windows 2k on the boxes to make sure it wasn't
a hardware problem that was causing things to go wrong. The machines
instantly shaped up and were seamlessly reintegrated into the server
pool with just one Win2K machine doing more work than all 3 of the
Linux boxes.

Needless to say, I won't be reccomending Linux/FSF to anymore of my
clients. I'm dissappointed that they won't be able to leverege the
free cost of Linux to their advantage, but in this case I suppose the
old adage stands true that, "you get what you pay for." I would have
also liked to have access to the source code of the applications that
we're running on our mission critical systems; however, from the looks
of it, the Microsoft "shared source" program seems to offer all of the
same freedoms as the GPL.

As things stand now, I can understand using Linux in academia to
compile simple "Hello World" style programs and learn C programming,
but I'm afraid that for anything more than a hobby OS, Windows
98/NT/2K are your only choices.

Re:IP Theft and The Linux Community (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9907976)

Linux Mandrake - A racist OS

The Open Source movement such as Linux Mandrake has been a topic of
considerable debate on the Internet's most controversial site. The
majority of this debate has centered around the technical merits of
the software, with the esteemed editors argueing against adopting
Linux by employing the full depth of their considerable intellects,
and the other side hurling death threats and similar invective. This
has allowed many who would not otherwise receive quality information
about Open Source software to be made aware of many of its
ramifications, but one issue has been left alone: The overt racism
that is deeply embedded in the movement.

Allow me to explain.

Alan Cox; Richard Stallman; Bruce Perens; Wichert Akkerman; Miguel

What do you see in this list of names? Are there any African-Americans
on it? Absolutely not, none of those names sound like one a
self-respecting black person would have! No Maurice, no Luther, no
Lil' Kim. There are many other lists such as this, you can see one
here. Flip through each page, do you see anything other than white
faces? Of course you don't, because Open Source and its adherents are
ardent racists and they absolutely forbid access to the sacred
'kernel' by any person of color.

Lets look at the list of the companies using Linux. Are there any
black owned companies on that list? Nooooooo. How about these
companies? They all have something to do with Open Source software,
any of them owned by an African-American? No again.

More racist overtones can be found by examining the language of Open
Source. They often refer to 'white hat' hackers. These 'white hats'
scurry about the Internet doing good, but illegal, acts for their
fellow man. In stark contrast we find the 'black hat' hackers. They
destroy the good works of others by breaking into systems, stealing
data, and generally causing havoc. These two terms reflect the mindset
of most Linux developers. White means good, black means bad. Anywhere
there is black, there is uncontrollable destruction and lawlessness.
Looking further we see black lists that inform other users of 'bad'
hardware, Samba, an obvious play on the much hated Little Black Sambo
book, Mandrake, which I won't explain except to say that the French
are notorious racists. This type is linguistic discrimination is
widespread throughout the Open Source culture, lampooned by many of
its more popular sites.

It is also a fact that all Unix 'distros' contain a plethora of racist
commands with not so hidden symbolism.

It can hardly be coincidence that the prime operating system of choice
of the 'open source supremacists' - Linux, features commands which are
poorly disguised racist acronyms. For example: 'awk' (All White Klan)
, 'sed' (shoot nEgroes dead), 'ln' (lynch negroes), 'rpm' (raical
purity mandatory), 'bash' (bring a slave home), 'ps' (persecute
sambo), 'mount' (murder or unseat nubians today), 'fsck' (favored
supreme Christian klan). I could go on and on about the latent racist
symbolism in Linux, but I fear it would take weeks to enumerate every

Is there a single unix command out there that does not have some
hidden racist connotation ? Suffice it to say that the racism pervades
Linux like a particularly bad smell. Can you imagine the effect of
running such a racist operating system on the impressionable mind ? I
don't have to remind you that transmitting subliminal messages is
banned in the USA, and yet here we have an operating system that
appears to be one enormous submliminal ad for the Klan!

One of the few selling points of Open Source software is that it is
available in many different languages. Browsing through the list I see
that absolutely none are offered in Swahili, nor Ebonics. Obviously
this is done to prevent black people from having access to the kernel.
If it weren't for the fact that racism is so blatantly evil I would be
impressed by the efforts these Open Sourcers have invested in keeping
their little hobby lilly white. It even appears that they hate the
Japanese, as some of these self proclaimed hackers defaced a web site
with anti- Japanese slogans. Hell, these people even go all the way to
Africa (South Africa mind you, better known as White Africa) and the
pictures prove that they don't even get close to a black person.

Of course, presenting overwhelming evidence such as this is a bit
unfair without some attempt to determine why these Open Sourcers are
so racist. Much of the evidence I have collected indicates that their
views are so deeply held that they are seldom questioned by the new
recruits. This, coupled with the robot-like groupthink that dominates
the culture allows the racist mindset to continue to permeate the
ranks. Indeed, the Open Source version of a Klan rally, OSDN (known to
the world as Open Source Developer's Network, known to insiders as
Open Source Denies Negroes) nearly stands up and shouts its racist
views on its demographics page. It doesn't mention the black man one
single time. Obviously, anyone involved with Open Source doesn't need
to be told that the demographic is entirely white, it is a given.

I have a sneaking suspicion as to why their beliefs are so closely
held: they are all terrible athletes.

Really. Much like the tragedy at Columbine High School, where two
geeks went on a rampage to get back at 'jocks', these adult geeks
still bear the emotional scars inflicted upon them due to their lack
of athletic ability during their teen years. As African-Americans are
well known for their athletic skills, they are an obvious target for
the Open Source geeks. As we all know, sports builds character, thus
it follows that the lack of sports destroys character. These geeks,
locked away in their rooms, munching on stale pizza and Fritos, engage
in no character building activities. Further, they interact only with
computers and never develop the level of social skill that allows
normal people to handle relationships with persons of color.

Contrasted with the closed source, non-geeky software house Microsoft,
Open Source has a long, long way to go.

Join me in my next article. Thank You
Dr. Ray Peterson
Chief Information Unit
IT Department

Re:IP Theft and The Linux Community (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9907982)

Oh please... blacks cry racism for everything. Checking photo IDs for a credit card purchase (I work in Retail) and they say "Hell no nigga', the only reason you checkin' is cause I'm black"--after translating it to English, I figured out what they were trying to say. The reason they're not on the higher ups is because they can't speak English!!

Re:IP Theft and The Linux Community (0, Offtopic)

mungeh (663492) | about 10 years ago | (#9908084)

Mr. Gates!? is that you!?

Re:IP Theft and The Linux Community (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9907973)

10. You cannot admit that no one in their right mind would do professional video editing in Linux.

Disney?? Pixar?? Both have/will do video editing on Linux systems... I stopped reading your idiotic post there. Do some research before you speak, idiot.

Re:IP Theft and The Linux Community (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9907963)

Make sure you don't send shit to me.. I don't want your MS Office crap. And I can't believe there are people like you out there... jesus christ some people are idiots. There are many more holes and problems with Windows than Linux. Ever have to remove 3 adwares that just won't go away? Yes, spend 8 fucking hours cleaning up after Windows' problems. Never have to deal with that on Linux, never have any app problems on Linux, easy install (SuSe+Fedora have *really easy* installs). The downside is games, Linux isn't up-to-par with Games (for now). Do some practical usage before you post general bullshit.

Re:IP Theft and The Linux Community (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9907975)

how do i update everything?
windows:for whats free find the update site download and install for whats not buy latest verison
linux: apt-get update

Re:IP Theft and The Linux Community (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9907981)

omg u r teh l4m3!

i like sex. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9907934)


its coming... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9907937)

all your bluetooth phones are belong to us.


Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9907943)

Excuse my English Please, Thank You. First congratulation on all you good work with animal. We support. We would like to help your company make money, so we like to offer help so you make money.

Dog shelter kill million of dog, cost money. Dog shelter cremate dog cost money. Dog shelter need money to operate. Where it get money? Hard to get money.

Many people like to eat dog. People need to eat dog. Where do they get dog? Some people they raise dog to eat. Some steal dog, make some people angry, hurt some people. That not right.

We like make proposal to your dog shelter to sell us dog. You save money, you make money. We buy all dog, regardless of size or color. We prefer big, young, strong dog but we take all dog from your dog shelter. We cook dog in America. We can dog in America and sell some dog in America in Asian market place. Lot people in America eat dog. Most dog we ship oversea. Lot people eat dog. Many country eat dog. Korea, China eat dog, Philippines, Japan, Thailand, Cambodia eat dog. Dog is healthy for you. This way your cost of business is less. You make more money, more people happy. You get cleaner air. No burn up dog. No waste dog. People pet no disappear. Everybody happy.

Cause we understand some people no like idea to eat dog. But they make trouble for people who like eat dog. Those people called two face. Those people eat cow, rabbit and mice, squirrel and frog and every thing else, but still give us trouble. But dog is good food. Dog is good medicine, make sick people strong, make old people young, make penis hard, make sex good again. Our business getting very big. Need more dog. We are prepared to offer you ten cents per pound per dog. We pick up dog every day, so you also save on feeding dog. We like very much to speak with you and make deal. Please tell us how many dog available in your business. We have deal already to do same with dog shelter in New Jersey, Connecticut and Massachusetts. We hope to be eventually in big city cross America. You can join us now, save money and continue doing your good job. We do big business together. We have big business already with many dog breeder and many dog hospital. Dog no suffer, We have quick death for dog.

Looking to hear from you soon,

Thank you

Kim Yung Soo
Kea So Joo, Inc.

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Yes, Bluetooth is inherently insecure (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9907944)

Do we need these white guys telling us so?

It doesn't look cool, it looks heavy and unwieldy. The one used at Santa Monica was essentially the same thing without a stupid-ass stock grafted onto the working parts.

You ever get the feeling that some geeks have personality disorders? They have a penchant for violence and violent things. Perhaps they didn't have enough physical size to get these aggressions out while in high school?

Re:Yes, Bluetooth is inherently insecure (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9908288)

Hey look at me! I have nothing better to do than criticize others in areas in which I have no interest! I don't have anything constructive or useful to add to this discussion, so intead I'm going to make a nuisance out of myself because, clearly, anything I'm not interested in is stupid.

Speaking of personality disorders...


Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9907945)

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Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9907992)

omg u r teh h0m0!

Dangerous (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9907947)

That must be the most scary picture of a gang I have ever seen

Motivation is always simple (2, Insightful)

Gopal.V (532678) | about 10 years ago | (#9907957)

It's never been done and more importantly "You can do it !!" (in a totally non-Waterboy style).

The real question to be asked is - What next ? :)

Linux upped my productivity, now up yours.

Customs (2, Funny)

elbazo (779536) | about 10 years ago | (#9907964)

The question is, if he tried to get that out of the country would he be called a terrorist for having a rifle shaped object that would interfere with the planes radar system.

No he would be called a "corpse" (1)

SmallFurryCreature (593017) | about 10 years ago | (#9908166)

Really doesn't seem to bright to use this thing anywhere but a secure area where everyone knows what it is. All you need is one 911 call and next thing you know you got a swat team asking questions. Questions like "stop twitching or we will shoot you again", "would you like you bunk-mate to be a gigantic horny black guy or a white biker guy".

Something tells me these guys are going to be in the news more often.

Re:Customs (1)

WolfWithoutAClause (162946) | about 10 years ago | (#9908354)

In actual fact he'd probably be alright provided he packed it in the hold luggage and removed the batteries.

Your average X-ray machine will trivially see it isn't powered and doesn't contain explosives and they'll just ignore it.

Go way to get tackled down by security! (3, Insightful)

barks (640793) | about 10 years ago | (#9907978)

When I saw this gizmo originally on Tom's Hardware Defcon 12 review [] (posted on a /. article), I thought in deed it was clever but more so intriguing b/c it was slapped on to a rifle handle. I can just imagine bingo-ladies calling 911 when they see a bunch of lads driving around pointing this thing aimlessly out the window trying to snag a signal, if their team name "Bluedriving crew".

No doubt a solid way to get in trouble is to make something look like a weapon and walk around public with it, or to point one of them laser pointers at Bill Clinton [] at a next book signing (offtopic note: notice the stiff no-ass-grab-hug in that picture he has to do now).:P

Re:Go way to get tackled down by security! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9908403)

I think that the point of the rifle was more of a 'Whoa! Cool!' factor for the other geeks at Defcon. This probably wasn't meant for much real use and if it is something that they 'bluedrive' with, then they are idiots.

Welcome to slashdot (-1, Troll)

Turn-X Alphonse (789240) | about 10 years ago | (#9907985)

This is slashdot... and you ask why someone makes a ray gun to zap mobile phones? Hell why not ask why we need our 1mb lines to reload small webpages repeatedly untill the servers melt

Re:Welcome to slashdot (1)

mungeh (663492) | about 10 years ago | (#9908599)

only 1mb!?

Deja vu (1)

beeglebug (767468) | about 10 years ago | (#9907988)

What exactly is covered in that article that we didn't read about yesterday?
Just look at the replies, everyone is just going over the same "you'd totally get arrested" ground. There's nothing new to discuss, which begs the question, why post the story?

Re:Deja vu (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9908393)

The article goes more indepth. Most of the people posting "You'd totally get arrested dude!" haven't read the article. It doesn't focus much on their 'sniper rifle' as opposed to them, what they do, and the 1.08 mile record. Read the article before you start claiming there's nothing new. Just becuase morons repost the same replies as yesterday doesn't mean that there's nothing new. It just shows you how many people post before they even know what they are posting about.

Firearm offence? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9908024)

If you started pointing this around in public in the uk, you would be likely to be either shot or taken in for questioning relating to a firearms offence (it doesn't have to be a real firearm).

Re:Firearm offence? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9912318)

I'd say taken in for questioning. You're more likely to be shot in the US for something like that.


Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9908025)

wow, these are some serious dweebs we got here. It's always amusing when a geek thinks he is cool. Geeks carrying video-game style "weapons" is even funnier.

Double Standard? (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9908039)

Let me get this straight: This guy invented a gadget which is expressly designed to mess with other people's property, correct?

And this makes him a geek hero?

If this device was a US government-sponsored project,can you imagine the barrage of outraged posts?

Re:Double Standard? (1)

Jeff DeMaagd (2015) | about 10 years ago | (#9908193)

Someone has to demonstrate security flaws. I don't like the black hacker mentality, but sometimes people have to prove it directly.

You can be sure that the government won't. They like having backdoors anyway, although they generally aren't smart enough to close their own backdoors.

I think it is stupid to make a yagi look like a sniper rifle-raygun anyway, the beam width is usually way too wide anyway. I'd like to see the range those things get with a parabolic. You won't be able to do the sniper look though, which is fine.

Re:Double Standard? (1)

ConsoleDeamon (611610) | about 10 years ago | (#9908215)

Nope just he made a realy good Bluetooth anntenna. what you use it fore is another subject.

Re:Double Standard? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9908378)

If you bothered to RTFA, then you would know that the only point of the antenna was to prove that a bluetooth could be received over long distances. The excuse that the industry gives for not closing up the gaps in security is that bluetooth can't operate over long distances so there is no need to bother. They have proven that you can detect and communicate with bluetooth devices over long distances. It was also mentioned that the only phones that were actually attacked were their own. They made sure that they had the consent of the phone owners to attempt the attacks. They didn't attack unsuspecting people's phones. They just detected the phones to demonstrate their antenna and the range bluetooth can have.

Next time think before you post. Building an antenna isn't a malicious act. Or else I could say that all of the SETI satellite disk arrays are 'designs of the devil' becuase they could be used to send out messages to government spy satellites in orbit. Unless you care to enlighten us as to how an antenna, in and of itself, is 'expressly designed to mess with other people's property.'

*side note*
The sniper rifle antenna isn't the one they used to break the 1.08 miles. They used a more powerful antenna. But you already knew that becuase you read the article... oh that's right.

Re:Double Standard? (1)

bluGill (862) | about 10 years ago | (#9908457)

No, this guy built a device to mess with his own property. So long as he is only using it for legal, ethical purposes I have no problem with it. If he were using it on unsuspecting random people, then he should be jailed.

I have in my house right now a device that can not just mess with people 3 miles away, but actually kill them. So does a large percentage of the population, but I don't try that because it is unethical. (Never mind that I'm not a good enough shot to hit at even 1 mile) Same thing, its not what you can do with a device, it is what you do do.

Seems like a bad idea (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9908132)

to have something that looks like a rifle in these uneasy times. Jittery armed security types have been know to shoot first and ask questions later.

Anyone care to try this out at the upcoming RNC in NYC. Police: "I think we have a shooter here." "Take him out, now!".

Re:Seems like a bad idea (1)

SteveXE (641833) | about 10 years ago | (#9908818)

uneasy times..? the times are no more uneasy in regards to our safety then they were 10 years ago, the only difference is the current administration likes to shove every little detail down our throats color coded and laced with fear.

I don't get it... (1)

otlg (803177) | about 10 years ago | (#9908369)

Ok.. you made a nuisance device and shaped it like a weapon. Wow, that's so incredibly special!!

Seriously, why not put all that effort into something that *might actually* be useful for people? I mean it's not like RF devices are black magic anymore, so where's the challenge, the feeling of discovery.

This sounds like something that rednecks should be doing not geeks. Overall I rate the story: "Boooo!!".

In other news (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9909688)

In other news today it is announced that, YOU ARE ALL COCKS.
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