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EuroBSDCon 2004 Early Registration Begins

CowboyNeal posted more than 10 years ago | from the get-your-daemon-on dept.

Education 35

Anonymous Coward writes "The 3rd European BSD Conference (EuroBSDCon) will take place 2004 Oct. 29-31 in Karlsruhe, Germany, with one day of tutorials and two days of talks. Topics include, but are not limited to new data structures, new file systems, system administration issues and Developer-User interaction. Early registration at a reduced fee will be open for a few more days via the conference web page."

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Netcraft confirms: *BSD is dying (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9942407)

It is official -- Netcraft confirms: *BSD is dying

One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered *BSD community when IDC confirmed that *BSD market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last [samag.com] in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.

You don't need to be a Kreskin [amazingkreskin.com] to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood.

FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time FreeBSD developers Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD is dying.

Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.

Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.

All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS dilettante dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.

Fact: *BSD is dying

Re:Netcraft confirms: *BSD is dying (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9947681)

Good News Everyone!
Turns out that *BSD is stronger than ever!
According to an Inernetnews article [internetnews.com] , Netcraft has confirmed that *BSD has "dramatically increased its market penetration over the last year."
There has been a steady increase in *BSD developers over the past decade.
There are currently 307 FreeBSD developers as of the 2004 core team election. [freebsd.org]
You can read more about FreeBSD here [freebsd.org]

If you would like to try out a BSD, you can download: FreeBSD [freebsd.org] , OpenBSD [openbsd.org] , NetBSD [netbsd.org] , or DragonflyBSD [dragonflybsd.org]
Enjoy!

Netcraft confirms: *BSD is dying (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9942435)

It is official -- Netcraft confirms: *BSD is dying One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered *BSD community when IDC confirmed that *BSD market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last [samag.com] in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test. You don't need to be a Kreskin [amazingkreskin.com] to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time FreeBSD developers Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD is dying. Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers. OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts. Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house. All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS dilettante dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead. Fact: *BSD is dying

Re:Netcraft confirms: *BSD is dying (-1, Offtopic)

advocate_one (662832) | more than 10 years ago | (#9942760)

well, I had considered blowing my last two mod points on modding these two AC's into oblivion... but what the heck, it's not exactly as if anyone's even going to notice them in such a dead thread...

I'm saving my mod points for bigger fish... :)

Re:Netcraft confirms: *BSD is dying (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9942822)

It is official -- Netcraft confirms: *BSD is dying

One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered *BSD community when IDC confirmed that *BSD market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last [samag.com] in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.

You don't need to be a Kreskin [amazingkreskin.com] to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood.

FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time FreeBSD developers Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD is dying.

Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.

Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.

All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS dilettante dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.

Fact: *BSD is dying

the truth (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9942797)

It is official -- Netcraft confirms: *BSD is dying

One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered *BSD community when IDC confirmed that *BSD market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last [samag.com] in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.

You don't need to be a Kreskin [amazingkreskin.com] to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood.

FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time FreeBSD developers Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD is dying.

Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.

Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.

All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS dilettante dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.

Fact: *BSD is dying

New England/Atlantic Canada BSD cons? (2, Interesting)

T.Hobbes (101603) | more than 10 years ago | (#9942851)

This is a little OT, but does anyone here know of BSD cons in the New England / Atlantic Canada area? I'm about to become a OpenBSD user and would really love the chance to hobnob with some gurus.

Re:New England/Atlantic Canada BSD cons? (2, Informative)

MavEtJu (241979) | more than 10 years ago | (#9943322)

Re:New England/Atlantic Canada BSD cons? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9944336)

My, this is a lively story

Re:New England/Atlantic Canada BSD cons? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9956269)

To: Secretary of State Colin Powell

March 10, 2003

Dear Mr. Secretary:

I am joining my colleague AmigaOS in submitting my resignation from the list of living operating systems (effective immediately) because I cannot in good conscience compete with Linux.

I have failed:

--To support SMP

--To generate media attention

--To spawn a professionally managed distribution

--To innovate

--To be relevant.

Throughout the globe *BSD is becoming associated with in-fighting and sloppy coding. My disregard for views of other operating systems, borne out by my neglect of technical competence, is giving birth to an anti-BSD century.

I joined the operating system world because I love technology. Respectfully, Mr. Secretary, I am now bringing this calling to a close, with a heavy heart but for the same reason that I embraced it.

Sincerely,

*BSD
Dead Operating System

Re:New England/Atlantic Canada BSD cons? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9958946)

Re:New England/Atlantic Canada BSD cons? (1)

T.Hobbes (101603) | more than 10 years ago | (#9959910)

Damn, I'm impressed. That was a fine troll. It just goes to show you; that extra bit of effort is what seperates the lamers from the leet.

My personal experience in the FreeBSD world (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9943107)

I've been an avid follower of the developments in FreeBSD for around 5 years now, so my overview of the entire history of "glue that binds" FreeBSD together isn't complete. That said, I've come to be a bit disappointed at how events in the last 18 months or so seem to be pushing the project in a direction that has made things more difficult, instead of more successful, that has shown distain for experience and quality and made FreeBSD a platform for large ego's to push their personal projects down everyone's throat.

The statistics sample from over a year was a cheap attempt to minimize Matt's contribution to the project. The reason why he has been mostly silent is probably one of the most prominent signs of his superior maturity. The fact that the official defense (mostly fronted by Greg, atm) he wasn't such a substantial committer is crap, for the most part. If one wanted to go by the stats, Jeff Robertson (sorry if I munged the spelling) would be one of the key committers, and his UMA system isn't even entirely ripe yet, it's just been committed within the sample timeframe. That suddenly phk is at the top of the list, is simple a result of his newest attempt to add another large chunk of bit rot to the project that he can later claim not to have time to maintain "unless someone is willing to pay for my time" (like the atm bits, the half-finished devd monster, et.al.) One can hardly get him to look at his malloc bits, that put his name in lights at some point in the long past.

Matt didn't contribute because he was convinced that that the smp development direction that was chosen (my impression at least from the archives and my fading memory) was overly complex, too complex for the number and talent level of the contributers involved, and that it would delay a release from the -current branch significantly. So he was right. I'll almost bet that that was a constant sore for John, who still hasn't gotten his long-promised, but little delivered re-entrant work done, but he always had time enough to object to any other commits that might help along the way. Strangely Julian and Matt could work together. One might attribute certain commits to both Matt and Julian (if that would matter anyway, since -core is interested in proving the opposite statistically).

If the issue here had anything to do with IPFW, then you all better get out your C-coder hats and take a little more time to fix that rotting pile of muck that has been the standard broken packet filter interface for FreeBSD long past its possible usefulness. A packet filter with no central maintainer which is subject to once yearly random feature bloat through some wild university project from Luigi. The brokenness that Luigi introduced (and the repository bloat through backing out and recommitting, ad absurdum) was probably no less a threat to security than anything Matt did. If the security officer was to be blatantly honest with himself, ipfw would be marked broken for either a full audit or full removal (just port obsd's pf or something that someone actually actively _cares_ about).

You've alienated Jordan, Mike, Bill Paul (for all I can see), Greenman, you constantly rag on Terry, even though he's seen and done more with FreeBSD than most of you, O'Brien is on the verge of quitting (since he, like I, am not convinced that GEOM is anything more than an ego trip that will never be completely maintained or usefully documented). There are certainly others, too, that have attempted to make technically correct contributions, but didn't fit into the sort of paranoid "glee club" that core would like to have around them. You guys lack the talent to steer the positive from Matt into the project and let the crap fall by the wayside. I'm not saying Matt's rants are the most intelligent thing he's done, but he's sat by the wayside and watch the superstars beat up the code to a point where it's less stable, slower, and more bloated than it ever was. I, for one, can understand his frustration (as I can with Mike's, Jordan's, and a few others), although I find his method of expressing it extreme, I often wished he'd have just visited the offenders personally with a clue bat.

All in all, history will judge if -core has made the right decision. I personally believe it was a decision made in weakness. The loss the project as a whole will suffer is greater than the bruised ego's the -core has had to deal with in its communications with Matt. Matt was an extremist, but he put up or shut up. I wish I could say that for most of -core. This is a personality confict in a technical project. I'd say that most of you take this just as personally as Matt did, but instead of insulting him in a moment of anger, you shoot off your own respective feet, lose a good deal of experience and embarass the man publicly. You talk the talk of respect, but you aren't walking the walk. I'd say most of you need thicker skin. In the end, FreeBSD folk will walk smiling though the streets, but the project will become a cult of likeable people, instead of one that achieved technical excellence. That will, imho, be what history says of the current -core. Hint: lose the touchy-feely, hack the code.

PS: if I've offended anyone (yeah, I singled a few out), prove me wrong, but spare me your insultedness. It's become a pathetic hobby in -core.

BSD and the Homosexual Agenda (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9943323)

Homosexuality: Homosexuality is deviant sexual behavior and a mental illness.

Homosexuals:

  1. subject their body parts to uses nature did not intend, such activities often presenting immediate risk to the participants;
  2. are prone to greater suicide, depression and other mental disorders and deficiencies than the heterosexual population at large;
  3. are prone to far greater sexually transmitted diseases, including AIDS, than the (normal) heterosexual population;
  4. molest young people (pedophilia) at a far greater rate than heterosexuals;
  5. engage in degrading sexual promiscuity, oftentimes engaging in risky sex with many partners during the same event;
  6. are engaged in aggressive and widespread efforts to indoctrinate our children by introducing the homosexual lifestyle using public schools as the primary indoctrination vehicle and likewise, through the movie/music/TV industry, with the dual goals of gaining school-age acceptance of homosexuality and encouraging sexual activity among children, especially same-sex experimentation;
  7. view most everything through a mindset heavily biased in favor of the homosexual lifestyle and culture, which renders them mostly useless when asked to opine on matters that normal heterosexuals better resolve.
The mental deficiencies described herein applying to homosexuals should not be confused with the mental deficiencies associated with the garden-variety left wing democrat (socialist/marxist/feminist/environmental/union boss wackos,) which have their own distinct set of mental disorders.

This doesn't even touch on what the Bible has to say about homosexuality.

Fact: *BSD is dying

I caught my child experimenting with UnixWare! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9945160)

Today I walked in on my 12-year-old boy alone in his room experimenting with UnixWare. Frankly, I am very ashamed! What, I ask, would drive such a good boy to dabble with such filth? He's only 12, for Christsake!

Language? (1)

WebCrapper (667046) | more than 10 years ago | (#9946329)

I'm in germany and I don't know if it would be a good idea to attend because I don't know what langage they speak. The website is in German, but if all the speakers speak German, I'm screwed...

Re:Language? (1)

javax (598925) | more than 10 years ago | (#9946389)

I suppose as the titles of the tutorials are in English, the tutorials will be, too.
As Jordan Hubbard spoke some years ago on EuroBSD, I expect that at least some speakers will speak english - at least Jordans German is still far from perfect...

Re:Language? (1)

SillyNickName4me (760022) | more than 10 years ago | (#9946502)

Heh.. out of personal interest, how do you get around there without speakign the language?
My girlfriend lives in Berlin, and since I speak some German, I can get around... I was initially just amazed at how few peopel would understand and speak English there (being Dutch myself, and beign used to most people speakign at least some English here)

Re:Language? (1)

XemonerdX (242776) | more than 10 years ago | (#9947233)

There's a vast difference between knowing enough German to order a loaf of bread at the local bakery in German and knowing enough German to follow a tutorial on the technological intricacies of FreeBSD in German.

Here's some FreeBSD docs translated to German: (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9949114)


It's a rough translation thru Babelfish but it gets the main point across regarding *BSD:

Es ist amtlich -- Netcraft bestätigt: * BSD stirbt

Eine verkrüppelnde Bombe schlug den bereits belagerten *BSD Gemeinschaft, als IDC daß bestätigte *BSD Marktanteil ist gefallen dennoch wieder, jetzt unten kleiner als ein Bruch von 1 Prozent aller Bediener. Entlang auf die Fersen einer neuen Netcraft Übersicht kommen, die einfach daß angibt *BSD hat mehr verloren Marktanteil, diese Nachrichten Serves, zu verstärken welchem we've bekannt alle. *BSD stürzt in der kompletten Verwirrung ein, wie passend illustriert, indem er absolut zuletzt [samag.com] im neuen System Admin kompletten Netzwerkanschlußtest ausfällt.

Sie don't Notwendigkeit, ein Kreskin [amazingkreskin.com] zu sein, zum * von von BSD's Zukunft vorauszusagen. Das Handschreiben ist- auf der Wand: *BSD stellt eine kahle Zukunft gegenüber. Tatsächlich dort ist won't jede mögliche Zukunft an allen für *BSD weil *BSD stirbt. Sachen schauen nach *BSD sehr schlecht. Da viel von uns seien Sie bereits, bewußt *BSD fährt fort, Marktanteil zu verlieren. Rote Tinte fließt wie ein Fluß des Bluts.

FreeBSD ist am meisten gefährdet von ihnen alle, nachdem esverloren 93% seiner Kernentwickler esverloren hatte. Die plötzliche und unangenehme Abfahrt der langen Zeit FreeBSD Entwickler Jordanien Hubbard und das Mike Smith dienen nur, den Punkt offenbar zu unterstreichen. Es kann jeden möglichen Zweifel nicht mehr geben: FreeBSD stirbt.

Let's Unterhalt zu den Tatsachen und Blick auf die Zahlen.

OpenBSD Führer Theo gibt an, daß es 7000 Benutzer OpenBSD gibt. Wieviele Benutzer von NetBSD gibt es? Let's sehen. Die Zahl von OpenBSD gegen NetBSD Pfosten auf USENET ist ungefähr im Verhältnis von 5 bis 1. Folglich gibt es ungefähr NetBSD Benutzer 7000/5 = 1400. BSD/OS Pfosten auf USENET sind über Hälfte des Volumens der NetBSD Pfosten. Folglich gibt es ungefähr 700 Benutzer BSD/OS. Ein neuer Artikel setzte FreeBSD an ungefähr 80 Prozent des *BSD Marktes. Folglich gibt es (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD Benutzer. Dieses ist mit der Zahl FreeBSD USENET-Pfosten gleichbleibend.

Wegen der Mühen des Walnuß-Nebenflusses, entsetzliche Verkäufe und so weiter, erlosch FreeBSD vom Geschäft und wurde von BSDI übernommen, die ein anderes gestörtes OS verkaufen. Jetzt ist BSDI auch, seine Leiche tot, die zu dennoch umgedreht werden, ein anderes charnel Haus. Alle Hauptübersichten zeigen die *BSD ist ständig im Marktanteil gesunken. *BSD ist sehr krank und seine langen Bezeichnung Überleben Aussichten sind sehr schwach. Wenn *BSD soll an allen überleben, die er zu OS Dilettantamateuren gehört. *BSD fährt fort zu verfallen. Nichts kurz eines Wunders konnte es an diesem Punkt in der Zeit speichern. Zu allen praktischen Zwecken *BSD ist tot.

Tatsache: *BSD stirbt

Re:Language? (1)

WebCrapper (667046) | more than 10 years ago | (#9952923)

Like another reply, there is a difference. I can speak VERY basic German for right now (been in country for, um...3 months now. I spoke it fluently as a kid, but its gone now. I actually speak more Dutch than I do German due to being stationed there for 2 years. I can understand German if I think about it, but usually the blank look while I think about what they're saying just frustrates the Germans.

Re:Language? (1)

SillyNickName4me (760022) | more than 10 years ago | (#9953040)

> Like another reply, there is a difference. I can speak VERY basic German for right now (been in country for, um...3 months now. I spoke it fluently as a kid, but its gone now. I actually speak more Dutch than I do German due to being stationed there for 2 years. I can understand German if I think about it, but usually the blank look while I think about what they're saying just frustrates the Germans.

Heh.. I do speak some German as well, enough for things like shopping etc.. but it seems not enough for actually being able to find me some work there... not that that is anywhere easy in Berlin anyway ;)

Re:Language? (1)

jschauma (90259) | more than 10 years ago | (#9949057)

I'm quite certain that the overwhelming majority, if not all, of the talks and tutorials will be in English.

On another note, it might be worth pointing out that there are a lot of developers attending/speaking, so if you want to meet some of the people behind your favorite OS, this looks like a good opportunity.

Re:Language? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9962992)

Wake up. It's 21st century. No one speaks German any more.

Re:Language? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9964079)

Also die rund 100 Millionen Menschen in D/CH/A sehen das etwas anders...
Inklusive mir selbst.

jhg (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9946611)

hjg

I got my registration info today!!!! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9946687)

LOL and i wrote a poem about it!!1

My bedside clock drags seconds into days--
Now two a.m., now almost two-oh-one--
My sleepless eyes grow teary as I gaze
Into the night and think of bygone fun.

For BSD is dead, dead ere its prime;
Dead, oh! dead, before its thirtieth year.
Almighty Linux, in but little time,
Destroyed the OS I once held dear.

Like Orpheus, I languished in my pain
When the cold grave swallowed Eurydice;
I piped my woeful song of sighs in vain
For nothing could revive FreeBSD.

Young Dragonfly now goes where Ekko led;
I cry to think of Open and of Net.
If tears could open coffins--raise the dead!--
Then BSD might have a future yet.

My tears have drenched the pillow that was dry.
Tomorrow will my sorrow come again.
I lie back down and tell myself the lie,
"FreeBSD lives on in OS X."

Conference program (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9948937)

can be found HERE [idaho.gov] .

Heading for the last roundup (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9953693)

FreeBSD is not doing so well. I am sorry to sound a pessimistic note, but I think that this poor excuse for an operating system should be humanely euthenised. FreeBSD is going to die anyway. Let me explain.

Once I had a cat who had feline leukemia, and we tried to keep him alive, with numerous trips to the vet. But, in the end, the disease just overwhelmed him. He had such a hard time. If I had another cat with the same diagnosis, then I would just have it put away immediately. Not being dismissive, but just realistic.

You are a very kind to have nursed FreeBSD along and looked after it. At least this pathetic OS is being looked after. It is not out there frantically searching for a "home". No, it's found it's final resting place.

If FreeBSD does have to be euthenised, this is not a cruel act - it will pass away immediately without suffering.

BSD - the OS that is dead? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9955596)

I don't get the BSD trolls that say "*BSD is dying"....

I mean it seems that is is already dead. If not please explain why BSD has such a poor market share?

Germaine Cobain (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9956262)

Yet another sickening blow has struck what's left of the *BSD community, as a soon-to-be-released report by the independent Commision for Technology Management (CTM) after a year-long study has concluded: *BSD is already dead. Here are some of the commission's findings:

Fact: the *BSDs have balkanized yet again. There are now no less than twelve separate, competing *BSD projects, each of which has introduced fundamental incompatibilities with the other *BSDs, and frequently with Unix standards. Average number of developers in each project: fewer than five. Average number of users per project: there are no definitive numbers, but reports show that all projects are on the decline.

Fact: X.org will not include support *BSD. The newly formed group believes that the *BSDs have strayed too far from Unix standards and have become too difficult to support along with Linux and Solaris x86. "It's too much trouble," said one anonymous developer. "If they want to make their own standards, let them doing the porting for us."

Fact: DragonflyBSD, yet another offshoot of the beleaguered FreeBSD "project", is already collapsing under the weight of internal power struggles and in-fighting. "They haven't done a single decent release," notes Mark Baron, an industry watcher and columnist. "Their mailing lists read like an online version of a Jerry Springer episode, complete with food fights, swearing, name-calling, and chair-throwing." Netcraft reports that DragonflyBSD is run on exactly 0% of internet servers.

Fact: There are almost no FreeBSD developers left, and its use, according to Netcraft, is down to a sadly crippled .005% of internet servers. A recent attempt at a face-to-face summit in Boulder, Colorado culminated in an out-and-out fistfight between core developers, reportedly over code commenting formats (tabs vs. spaces). Hotel security guards broke up the melee and banned the participants from the hotel. Two of the developers were hospitalized, and one continues to have his jaw wired shut.

Fact: NetBSD, which claims to focus on portability (whatever that is supposed to mean), is slow, and cannot take advantage of multiple CPUs. "That about drove the last nail in the coffin for BSD use here," said Michael Curry, CTO of Amazon.com. "We took our NetBSD boxes out to the backyard and shot them in the head. We're much happier running Linux."

Fact: *BSD has no support from the media. Number of Linux magazines available at bookstores: 5 (Linux Journal, Linux World, Linux Developer, Linux Format, Linux User). Number of available *BSD magazines: 0. Current count of Linux-oriented technical books: 1071. Current count of *BSD books: 6.

Fact: Many user-level applications will no longer work under *BSD, and no one is working to change this. The GIMP, a Photoshop-like application, has not worked at all under *BSD since version 1.1 (sorry, too much trouble for such a small base, developers have said). OpenOffice, a Microsoft Office clone, has never worked under *BSD and never will. ("Why would we bother?" said developer Steven Andrews, an OpenOffice team lead.)

Fact: servers running OpenBSD, which claims to focus on security, are frequently compromised. According to Jim Markham, editor of the online security forum SecurityWatch, the few OpenBSD servers that exist on the internet have become a joke among the hacker community. "They make a game out of it," he says. "(OpenBSD leader) Theo [de Raadt] will scramble to make a new patch to fix one problem, and they've already compromised a bunch of boxes with a different exploit."

With these incontroverible facts staring (what's left of) the *BSD community in the face, they can only draw one conclusion: *BSD is already dead.

Eros is Dying (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9960101)

It is now official. Netcraft confirms: Eros [eros-os.org] is dying

One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered Eros community when IDC confirmed that Eros market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 0.0001 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that Eros has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. Eros is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Research Projects That Promise Much But Go Nowhere networking test.

You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict Eros's future. The hand writing is on the wall: Eros faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for Eros because Eros is dying. Things are looking very bad for Eros. As many of us are already aware, Eros continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood.

Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

Eros leader Jonathan Shapiro states that there are 7 users of Eros. How many users of KeyKos are there? Let's see. KeyKos is at about 8 percent of the Eros market. Therefore there are 7 + 1 = 8 users of either Eros or KeyKos. This is consistent with the number of Eros Usenet posts.

Due to troubles at University of Pennsylvania, abysmal development speed and so on, Eros went through a "focus shift" by doing a useless rewrite in C and was taken over by Johns Hopkins University, who attempted to continue development on this troubled OS. Then the project was sidetracked while precious development resources went towards creating Yet Another Useless Version Control System [opencm.org] . Now it is dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.

All major surveys show that Eros has steadily declined in market share. Eros is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If Eros is to survive at all it will be among OS dilettante dabblers. Eros continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, Eros is dead.

Fact: Eros is dying

Bulletin from the No Spin Zone (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9966207)

The Factor:
*BSD is dying

What it is BSD please (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9970755)

What is BSD? Is it that terrible OS that died a few years back? Thanks

GNAA Gets 10 millionth post! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9999769)

GNAA Announces Achievement of 10 Millionth Post!
I dedicate this historic post to the Gay Nigger Association of America!

http://www.gnaa.us/ [www.gnaa.us]

#gnaa @ irc.gnaa.us

You know, this is really a historic moment. For years, Slashdot has served as a beacon for trolls to spit upon and target for crapfloods, and God love every successful group that has come out of the woodwork.

Let this 10 millionth post serve as a time for us to all come together. CLIT, Trollkore, GNAA, the Trolliban, and the thousands of independant trolls. Working together, we can destroy all who stand in our way.

Here is my proposal for this to work.

1) It must be understood from day one that GNAA > j00, and that fristage postage is always ours.

2) GNAA software engineers have developed many wonderful automata for crapflooding blogs and various message boards. These will be provided in compiled binaries free of charge for your use.

3) Your organization will become a wholly owned subisidiary of GNAA. Your websites must reflect the changes. However, you are still allowed to troll in the name of your organization.

4) Your software engineers must dedicate at least 10% of their time to the never-ending development of LastMeasure development. I say never-ending, because popup blockers are constantly improved and must be rebroken. You will also dedicate 5% of your time to developing captcha-breaking OCR code for use in blog crapflooding and creating long lists of Slashdot accounts.

5) Last, but not least, you will all have a good time! The GNAA is about brotherly love, and we feel that with the proper amounts of respect between us all, our trolling power will grow to astronomical heights, enabling us to cause massive havoc.

In closing, to all you forum moderators, and especially to the editors of Slashdot who have so vehemenently opposed the GNAA: Surrender now or we WILL destroy you!
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