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Ebay Buys Into Craiglist

michael posted more than 9 years ago | from the buy-it-now dept.

The Internet 171

unboring writes "The news out today morning is that eBay has bought a minority stake in Craigslist. Here's Craig's take on the whole issue. For those unaware of Craigslist, it was launched by Craig Newmark in 1995 in San Francisco, and is an online network of classified ads and forums aimed at people looking to find an apartment rental, meet friends or trade goods. For those unaware of eBay, get out from under that rock! Google news stories for your convenience here. So will Craigslist now become more corporate/evil? Personally, I've benefited a lot from Craigslist classifieds and I hope it doesn't lose its attitude."

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171 comments

Craig R00lz (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9962741)

The penis: mightier than the sword!

Slashdot-speak (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9962969)

Personally, I've benefited a lot from Craigslist classifieds

Translates to:

I've hooked up with many gay lovers, unknown to my wife, through Craigslist classifieds.

Re:Slashdot-speak (2, Funny)

telstar (236404) | more than 9 years ago | (#9963472)

"Translates to:
I've hooked up with many gay lovers, unknown to my wife, through Craigslist classifieds."
  • Who knew? Apparently Governor McGreevey was a CraigsList user!

First (-1, Offtopic)

dmehus (630907) | more than 9 years ago | (#9962751)

First Post!

Doug

Re:First (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9962775)

U have failed it!!! How's that karma?!?

Re:First (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9962788)

Doug Mehus Global Member, Retard Society


FAILED

YOUR BLOG FAILS IT, TOO (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9963065)

TEJ LOSE! [blogspot.com]

SUCK MY SHIT ASSHOLE!!!! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9962768)

WOOT!!! FIRST POST!!!!!!!!

Isn't it "Craigslist"? (5, Informative)

scifience (674659) | more than 9 years ago | (#9962769)

The article title says "Craiglist", but it should be "Craigslist."

Re:Isn't it "Craigslist"? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9962851)

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mod parent up -- he's right!!!! (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9962913)

Why is this moderated as troll? It's 100% correct. Oh, wait, I know -- Michael can't stand any criticism, even when it's correct.

Re: Craigslist (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9962771)

I've used the barter/trading section of craigslist before but was leery of trusting the people who I traded with.

Then again, craiglist works only when you trade in person unlike ebay.

And the listings are free...

it had to be said (0)

sledd_1 (464094) | more than 9 years ago | (#9962777)

I for one embrace our new corporate auctioneer overlords

eBay you say? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9962781)

I'm gonna have to check them out. Say, have any of you heard of this new interweb thing that's starting up? I hear that this company named America Inline might offer something like it.

Re:eBay you say? (2, Funny)

filtur (724994) | more than 9 years ago | (#9962807)

I'm gonna have to check them out. Say, have any of you heard of this new interweb thing that's starting up? I hear that this company named America Inline might offer something like it.

Yeah, the interweb rocks, I downloaded it last night.

Re:eBay you say? (1)

blinder (153117) | more than 9 years ago | (#9962893)

you mean you have the internet on your computer?

i gotta get that.

Re:eBay you say? (2, Funny)

nuggetman (242645) | more than 9 years ago | (#9963015)

Yeah, the interweb rocks, I downloaded it last night.

I already beat it
the end guy is hard

Re:eBay you say? (1)

Tenebrious1 (530949) | more than 9 years ago | (#9963178)

Me too!

Re:eBay you say? (2, Funny)

Zaranne (733967) | more than 9 years ago | (#9962870)

*moves rock*

Damn, I was wondering what I was hiding under all this time.

And why bother paying to hook up on line. I know plenty of places to find people horny and outta state...for free!

Re:eBay you say? (2, Funny)

Mateito (746185) | more than 9 years ago | (#9962927)

I know plenty of places to find people horny and outta state...for free

Then you are either

  • Female
  • Gay
  • Incredibly good looking or
  • Cowboy Neal

    which means you are officially a member of a slashdot minority group.

Re:eBay you say? (1)

br0ck (237309) | more than 9 years ago | (#9963063)

Or,

  • In prison

Re:eBay you say? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9963090)

"I like my women how like my chocolate; Bitter."

Maybe they're just put off by your attitude? :)

Re:eBay you say? (3, Funny)

digitalsushi (137809) | more than 9 years ago | (#9962888)

yeah you should totally check ebay out online!! thay're A+++++++++++!!!!!!! HILEY RECOMENDED

Okay, one thing not listed in the headline (5, Funny)

Richthofen80 (412488) | more than 9 years ago | (#9962782)

is how craigslist is a virtual hook-up community, as well. If you want no strings attached sex and can host, you have a good chance of meeting someone to fuck in the major metro area of your choice.

Re:Okay, one thing not listed in the headline (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9962859)

Err not really. For those who have tried the "Casual Encounters" forums, it's mostly just jokesters collecting photos, or men pretending to be women, just to see how many men respond.

There are some truly desperate people out there. Though I think the idea is great, it just doesn't work out in practice. If a real chick DOES manage to post, her email box is inuandated with 3247832987432 emails in about 2 minutes, making replies hopeless (especially if the post is any older than an hour).

Not that I know this from experience or anything... :innocent:

Re:Okay, one thing not listed in the headline (4, Informative)

Richthofen80 (412488) | more than 9 years ago | (#9962873)

I wrote that comment all seriousness. I've posted several craigslist ads, and met more than one girl whom I've slept with.

Re:Okay, one thing not listed in the headline (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9962928)

I refuse to sleep with a woman on the first date.

So we have to fuck all night!

then you (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9962977)

Then you should post her photo and contact information for the rest of use to use.

Re:Okay, one thing not listed in the headline (1)

AviLazar (741826) | more than 9 years ago | (#9963215)

Ok i know what I am doing when i get home from the bar tonight (assuming a girl doesn't pick me up, which is unlikely). Ok so i know what I am doing tomorrow afternoon.
Being a part-time bouncer ROCKS! :)

Re:Okay, one thing not listed in the headline (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9962917)

I met a sweet lesbian who was "curious" about sex with men this way... Whoah!

Re:Okay, one thing not listed in the headline (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9963108)

now you have HIV you fucking pig!

Re:Okay, one thing not listed in the headline (1)

Gadzinka (256729) | more than 9 years ago | (#9963249)

Should be "informative", not "funny" ;)

Robert

Re:Okay, one thing not listed in the headline (1)

value_added (719364) | more than 9 years ago | (#9963290)

So let me get this straight ... craigslist is a hook-up community, and now a major auction company wants a piece of that action?

There's at least a few Telecommuting Hooker jokes in there, but this reminds me when a few years back I learned that AOL was/is especially popular in the gay community for its usefulness as a "hook-up" mechanism -- the adopted moniker at the time was GAYOL. I was aware of the widespread promiscuity in that population, but I had no idea the chat-room hook-up mechanism" was being put to use morning, afternoons and nights, in addition to late-nights.

I gave up questioning why people sign up for AOL, but I do find myself still thinking twice about people who are adamant on using it. Not that it matters, I suppose, but amusing nevertheless.

Re:Okay, one thing not listed in the headline (1)

anethema (99553) | more than 9 years ago | (#9963345)

Imagine the fortune prettier hookers could make selling themselves on ebay?

Prople bidding against eachother to sleep with hot women.

Sounds like a cash cow for ebay and craigslist ;)

Re:Okay, one thing not listed in the headline (1)

freeweed (309734) | more than 9 years ago | (#9963499)

I'd believe it.

A few weeks ago I saw an infomercial on TV for a new kind of dating service: one to help you have affairs of an adulterous nature. They had many disclaimers about their respect of the sanctity of marriage, and how they don't want to encourage cheating... then went on to say "hey, people are going to cheat, so we feel it's ok to help you hook up discretely". These two messages alternated throughout the whole thing. I couldn't stop watching; it was the most original thing I've seen on television in years.

I think this, and Craigslist, just go to show you the reality of human relations. I'm anxiously awaiting a slew of posts decrying Craigslist because "no strings attached sex" is still pretty taboo in most circles :)

eBay's OS (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9962789)

and eBay runs on Java [sys-con.com]

If by... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9962793)

"benefitted" you mean "found a guy willing to give you a free blowjob" and by "lose its attitude" you mean "ban such ads"... then I'm sorry.

Trade goods? (4, Funny)

PCM2 (4486) | more than 9 years ago | (#9962799)

For those unaware of Craigslist, it was launched by Craig Newmark in 1995 in San Francisco, and is an online network of classified ads and forums aimed at people looking to find an apartment rental, meet friends or trade goods.
And let's not forget trading bodily fluids [craigslist.org] , while we're at it...

Re:Trade goods? tsarkon reports infected pigs (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9963029)

hahahaha. hahaha. very funny. you fuckers with AIDS/HIV and disease should be tatooed with a biohazard symbol. i dont want you near me. you should only fuck others with biohazard tatoos. and ebay can suck raw sewage out of the sewer. fuck all companies with woman CEOs. Woman CEOs are FUCKING TRASH, and they rape worse than the slimest regular CEOs,

You vagina cunts fucked america. you fucking vaginas want power but expect dinner to be paid for and the door opened. you are are great sex, but you need to bear children and love us,a nd we will fight to protect you and your children, but you vaginas at work, GET THE FUCK OUT, you are crappy employees , you have no patents, you are rarely the best in the feild, and you cunts like it sex as much as men, but you cant take the locker room talk, fuck you cunt vagina!

you moron cunts DOUBLED the work force in the USA, now we all get paid half as much, good fucking jobs. womens lib fucked the country. you fucking cunt rags fucked us.

islam will probably win because we have vaginas running things. your vagina crap fucked my second amendment. i want to cut you anti-gun people's leg s off so that you live as a gimp and i can eat your legs and shit you out and then put those feces in your mouth!

Re:Trade goods? tsarkon reports infected pigs (-1, Troll)

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eBay is serious at expansion this year (5, Informative)

Neo's Nemesis (679728) | more than 9 years ago | (#9962803)

eBay is really trying to squeeze itself into every possible market it can, which deals with basically buying/selling.
It has also bought of India's largest trade portal baazee [baazee.com] . Lets keep an eye on its tale of acquisitions in 04.

Re:eBay is serious at expansion this year (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9963147)

I think eBay will buy Mediagrif. eBay wants to expand into the B2B market, and Mediagrif owns BrokerForum.com and Powersourceonline.com. Unless, of course, eBay decides to buy brokerbin.com instead... It might be cheaper.

Re:eBay is serious at expansion this year (1)

svallarian (43156) | more than 9 years ago | (#9963202)

More like pollute.

They've managed to totally botch up the half.com "transition" that's been going on for the last year or so.

They just don't seem to understand that they can't possibly scale up to a single back end for everything.

Steven V>

former employee sold the stake (5, Informative)

tungwaiyip (608795) | more than 9 years ago | (#9962806)

EBay bought 25% stake in Craigslist, as founder Craig commented in his blog. This is not your usual "community effort sold out to big corporation" story. It begins when craigslist first established as company, Craig made a gift of some equity to a guy who was working with him at the time. He reasons that the equity really had more symbolic than actual dollar value. Given the success of craigslist, this is probably self-deprecation. Indeed, this person latter left the company and decided to sold his stake to eBay. The irony is this person is going to make all the monetary gain while Craig would likely to shoulder all the criticism.

Being a for-profit company or owned by big corporation is not necessary a bad thing. People need to make a living and an office need money to run. Even slashdot.org a fervently independent outlet is now owned by VA Software. But craigslist has made a name of itself by strongly resist to commercialize. The web design is basic and text only, entirely free from advertisement. All services are free with the exception of job posting as its sole income. Had it decided to brought in venture capital, craigslist has every potential to be a contender to eBay, a 50 billion dollars corporate giant. But it choose to stay this way, running like a struggling non-profit, forgoing the dream of uncountable wealth.

While it might look a mistake now that he gave away equity to a person who later sell to big corporation and profited, I believe he acted in the interest of the organization at that time. He understand the website that bears his name is more than himself. By making some form of employee ownership he could make it a better and more accountable organization.

I can only hope the ownership change will strengthen craigslist's service without straying it from its mission. No matter what it is going to be, craigslist has already made its name as an antidote to the dot-com frenzy

(Comment replicated from my blog) [tungwaiyip.info]

Re:former employee sold the stake (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9963304)

So if EBay owns 25%, who owns the rest?

If Craig owns the rest, he doesn't have to listen to anything they say.

Re:former employee sold the stake (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9963408)

Had it decided to brought in venture capital, craigslist has every potential to be a contender to eBay, a 50 billion dollars corporate giant. But it choose to stay this way, running like a struggling non-profit, forgoing the dream of uncountable wealth.

Right, but now eBay owns 25%, so they have less to fear from this. I have no problem with for-profit companies. What I don't like is monopolies. eBay has a pretty scary lock on their market and it just got stronger. You don't have to be a socialist to see a problem here.

Re:former employee sold the stake (2, Interesting)

rhizome (115711) | more than 9 years ago | (#9963513)

Being a for-profit company or owned by big corporation is not necessary a bad thing. People need to make a living and an office need money to run. Even slashdot.org a fervently independent outlet is now owned by VA Software. But craigslist has made a name of itself by strongly resist to commercialize.

This is a hodgepodge and makes no sense. Craigslist is already supporting 11 people's livelihoods and, last I checked, they were working in an office. Who then do you mean by "People"? Nobody's talking about CL being owned by anybody yet, but it's ominous that eBay will be able to affect the direction of Craigslist at all. Craigslist's resistance to the profit motive has had nothing to do with their ability to make living working on a website that is so useful to so many.

Re:former employee sold the stake (1)

Jeff DeMaagd (2015) | more than 9 years ago | (#9963536)

Intersting a stake having only symbolic value has monetary value too. The weblog does not say why the stake wasn't at least offered for sale first to the craigslist group before offering it out to third parties.

whats ebays next move (4, Funny)

bdigit (132070) | more than 9 years ago | (#9962813)

...putting craigslist up for bid on their website?

Creeping Change? (5, Informative)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 9 years ago | (#9962818)

Personally, I've benefited a lot from Craigslist classifieds and I hope it doesn't lose its attitude."

This issue is clearly at the top of my list where businesses begin to fail their customers, they lose that rough edge they had when they started out, that panache which got them noticed, their attention to fixing what was important and not wasting energy putting doilies on things, and lastly being accessible -- too damn many online companies have buried their customer service behind FAQ's and forms to the point you try to alert them to a problem and the square peg won't fit their round-hole request template and you never really know if anyone did receive that urgent missive, but you do get a form letter which seems completely out of context with your concern. In short, they become 'Sirius Cybernetics', a mindless bunch of jerks who should be first up against the wall when the revolution comes.

I'm fairly pissed off with eBay, for their constant fscking around with user interfaces and services that don't need half the crap they put into it and it never really quite works as well as it used to, but it's full of cutesy sh!t pictures and things, oh, and the pages are really big now, lots of bloat in there. I hope Craig's doesn't fall under the heel of the eBay design wizards, but expect some day for 'Craig' to be dropped, to look more corporate.

Re:Creeping Change? (2, Insightful)

carbolic (616993) | more than 9 years ago | (#9963053)

Consider how much eBay has to deal with. They are the single biggest online entity in sheer dollar volume with millions of customers. Yet they still try to keep the community the focus. I think that's prevalent even with all of the creeping changes. eBay doesn't want to alienate its own clientelle. That's a noble effort, even with all of the glitches that surround giganticness.

I suspect eBay will treat Cragslist clientelle in the same fashion - community first. Yet, they will be able to bring more recognition (and cities) with their marketing might and R&D dollars.

btw: For a Really Great Look into eBay's origins and culture, check out the book "eBoys" [amazon.com] about the early days of eBay and Benchmark Capital, its VC backers.

--
carbolic
www.wifi-toys.com [wifi-toys.com]

Re:Creeping Change? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9963156)

I hope Craig's doesn't fall under the heel of the eBay design wizards, but expect some day for 'Craig' to be dropped, to look more corporate. Since Craigslist _is_ a fairly well-recognized name in the US, and especially in the Bay Area, I don't foresee a name change in the recent future

Re:Creeping Change? (1)

Jeff DeMaagd (2015) | more than 9 years ago | (#9963159)

Even the "small guy" can be like that.

I still have not found the email address for Julie C. Meloni, the author of a book. Why do I need it? I need it to report a few mistakes in her book PHP, MySQL and Apache. I consider the errors to be greater than what made it into Sam's errata sheet on the book.

Re:Creeping Change? (1)

rsidd (6328) | more than 9 years ago | (#9963325)

I still have not found the email address for Julie C. Meloni, the author of a book... I need it to report a few mistakes in her book

Have you tried snailmailing her publisher? That's the normal way to contact an author.

Re:Creeping Change? (1)

JudgeFurious (455868) | more than 9 years ago | (#9963203)

Re-designed and re-launched as the new "CList! from eBay"

Rocks (1, Insightful)

Rank Amateur (38275) | more than 9 years ago | (#9962828)

How much longer must we be hammered with the cliche, "get out from under that rock?"
If you don't know Doom, get out from under that rock! If you haven't heard of project X, get out from under that rock! If you haven't read articles about personality Y, get out from under that rock!

Get out from under that rock. The jaded journalist's quick cliche fix. Available at stores near you.

actually (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9962886)

Living under the rock is cheap, healthy and cool ("cool" as in temperature). The only problem is sharing the space with reptiles, worms and lichen.

Sorry, what were we discussing?

Re:Rocks (2, Funny)

mopslik (688435) | more than 9 years ago | (#9962986)

How much longer must we be hammered with the cliche, "get out from under that rock?"

Indeed. One should avoid cliches like the plague.

Re:Rocks (1, Funny)

teetam (584150) | more than 9 years ago | (#9962989)

People have stopped staying that for a long time now. If you don't know that, get out from under the r...

Re:Rocks (1)

Meostro (788797) | more than 9 years ago | (#9963027)

This needs to be a revision to S.L.A.S.H. [slashcode.com] , any mention of those words auto-links to either Google or to the Wikipedia of that subject.

If you haven't heard of slashcode, get out from under that [google.com] rock [wikipedia.org] !.

Re:Rocks (0)

JudgeFurious (455868) | more than 9 years ago | (#9963225)

I've always preferred "If you haven't heard of _____ you must have been living in an ice cave up near the Arctic circle for the past ___ years"

But that's just me.

What is EBay's interest (1)

SteroidMan (782859) | more than 9 years ago | (#9962830)

Could they want to redirect the bevy of free and cheap things listed on craigslist on a typical day to their site for auction? Or are they interested in getting into the online classifieds market in general?

Minority Stake? (1)

no1here (467578) | more than 9 years ago | (#9962835)

According to cnet and lots of others:
"eBay has acquired a 25 percent stake in Craigslist, an online listing of classified ads and forums."

Sure 25 percent may be the minority, but there is nothing minor about it. When a company owns 25% of your company, you do half at least part of what they suggest you do.

Re:Minority Stake? (1)

Mullen (14656) | more than 9 years ago | (#9962968)

Sure 25 percent may be the minority, but there is nothing minor about it. When a company owns 25% of your company, you do half at least part of what they suggest you do.

No, you don't. The person/company with 51% or more of the stock/interest is the HNIC.

Craig owns 75%, so he has all the say. If eBay does not like this, they can request an election. Oh ya, they'll lose since Craig owns a 75% stake of the company.

Re:Minority Stake? (2, Insightful)

GregChant (305127) | more than 9 years ago | (#9963385)

Craig owns 75%, so he has all the say. If eBay does not like this, they can request an election. Oh ya, they'll lose since Craig owns a 75% stake of the company.

While in theory, you are correct, but in practice, this becomes financial suicide. You forgot to include the comedy second option: if eBay doesn't like Craig's decisions, they can pull out: potentially hurting the value of craigslist in future trading.

The real power is in the purse, not in the votes.

Re:Minority Stake? (1)

Mullen (14656) | more than 9 years ago | (#9963436)

While in theory, you are correct, but in practice, this becomes financial suicide. You forgot to include the comedy second option: if eBay doesn't like Craig's decisions, they can pull out: potentially hurting the value of craigslist in future trading.

Well, since CL is not a publicly traded company it can't hurt them. I guess if they started losing money, eBay could loan/give them money if they wanted to. However, that point is moot since CL is a profitable company.

Re:Minority Stake? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9963350)

When a company owns 25% of your company, you do half at least part of what they suggest you do.


Only if you own less. If one person/group owns 51% then they can make all of the decissions. If nobody owns 51%, then the groups that can combine for a total of 51% get the influence. So in a company with a very large number of owners with small percentages, 25% probably has some influence. It could make or break many decissions. In this case though, it doesn't matter.

It fits (1)

DoubleDownOnEleven (690607) | more than 9 years ago | (#9962839)

The two markets are somewhat related. As Craig said in his blog, "Like craigslist, eBay is about helping folks get everyday stuff done."
We'll see how it turns out

Ebay takes the hook? (2, Interesting)

lukewarmfusion (726141) | more than 9 years ago | (#9962844)

The other day we read a story claiming that there's so much IPO interest for craigslist, and the response from Craig is that they're not interested. What interests me, however, is that the article claimed that there was so much money in Craigslist ($25 million or more!). While I'm extremely skeptical about such an estimate, I have no doubt that they're doing quite well.

I'm thinking that eBay was either thinking along those same lines or they were convinced by the article's claims.

eBay's been looking longer than that (1)

winkydink (650484) | more than 9 years ago | (#9962915)

They're a public company. They have to do this little thing called "due dilligence". It takes a while. I suspect the article may have arisen out rumors that some invertment banks were doing something involving Craigslist. People then apply their greedy imaginations.

Re:Ebay takes the hook? (1)

_ph1ux_ (216706) | more than 9 years ago | (#9963303)

actually what ebay probably wants to do with the idea of craigslist is turn it into a geographic front end portal where the transactions of sales of items between local buyers and sellers can scale in the volume of ebay - but retain the small personal local feel of CL.

If you can get the transaction backend of craigslist to be more robust its a good thing. For example I have asked craigs on several occasions to provide multiple ticket catagories, but they resist any such changes, which is just lame - and their seaching tech sucks. If you look at the tix catagory you will see how difficult it is to sort due to the flooding of sports tickets.

so the pros and cons are that you can alleviate the multi-posting for the same items, but you lose a lot of the personal - real local individual feel that craigslist has been so successful in capturing.

Yikes. (5, Informative)

daviddennis (10926) | more than 9 years ago | (#9962864)

Craigslist has its quirky charm, and it's free to use.

I certainly hope neither of those things will change.

It's always had a reputation for being a bit anti-corporate, so seeing a press release written in boilerplate corpspeak [businesswire.com] is more than a little appalling.

I also wonder about liability problems associated with the Erotic Services and Casual Encounters categories. That seems like the kind of thing a major corporation would be forced to neuter.

Still, it is a minority stake which I daresay gives them no rights at all. I wonder how much they paid for those no rights.

Oh ... is Pierre Omidyar in any way involved in eBay anymore? I notice that Craig thanks him in his announcement, and that seems odd. I thought Pierre had long since cut the cord and gone on to charitable stuff.

D

Re:Yikes. (1)

unboring (697886) | more than 9 years ago | (#9963131)

IIRC, he's a permanent eBay Board Member

Re:Yikes. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9963448)

I also wonder about liability problems associated with the Erotic Services and Casual Encounters categories.

Huh? And what liabilities would those be? Law suits after getting an STD? I don't really see anything different from regular classified ad thingies.

craigslist rules (1)

MyDixieWrecked (548719) | more than 9 years ago | (#9962903)

my co-worker has used them on several occasions... he didn't really have too much luck with the personals but he managed to find people to jam with (he's a drummer).

my roommate has used it to buy a drumset, some keyboards, a Fender Rhodes, and some other misc instruments, then subsequently sell them back when he needed cash for more than he bought them for.

I, personally have only posted a single personal ad... got 2 responses. one from a guy asking if I got any responses (what a fag), and one from a girl complaining about the ad (what's wrong with "I'm a geeky bastard. I like art, computers and loud music. tattoos are cool."?

anyway, I haven't heard back from her...

btw, craigslist only works if you live in a metropolitan area (ie NYC, SF, etc). If you live in Humplick, KY, yer shit out of luck.

Nervous? A little (1)

faust2097 (137829) | more than 9 years ago | (#9962916)

Craigslist has been an invaluable resource for me. I've found apartments, sold my furniture when I had to move out of said apartments due to unemployment [one of which was directly across the street from the CL office] and 3 out of my 4 full-time jobs from there.

Craig's a great guy but, as you can probably tell from reading his comments on the issue he doesn't always think things through and has a tendency to wing it. My hope is that the free spirit of Craig and the, well, corporateness of eBay don't end up at odds. Most of you probably don't remember the whole craigslist/ListFoundation thing and I don't want another repeat of that.

craiglist crap (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9962937)

I received an automated reply to my email sent to the only contact address I could find ... craiaglist no longers monitors this account ... no wonder uPay^h^h^h^hebay is interested.

If people behaved as most corporations do, people would get prison, not profits.

This is kind of lame. (1)

enziarro (641783) | more than 9 years ago | (#9962949)

I'm missing craigslist being the way it was a few years ago. It's now full of shitheads with their "Free Ipod OMG!!!!" posts, the forums are full of trolls who are nowhere near as amusing as the ones here, people flagging legitimate shit all over the place. People skipping out on paying for ads by putting them in the wrong sections. You can't even get laid on the casual encounters board anymore... Basically, craigslist used to be a place on the internet that was unlike the internet at all, and this is one step closer to it going straight to hell. I know I sound like the typical "I used craigslist back when it was underground" kind of ass, but since all this fuss has been made about it it's gotten a whole lot less usable. I wouldn't mind if someone who could help filter their bullshit posts had a minority share, but we all know there's no way ebay will be doing that.

Thanks CraigsList! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9962964)

I have my crappy job because of Craig.

Thanks!

*scarcasm definately intended*

Is this the end.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9962971)

for all the 420 ads on craigslist?

It's not exactly very corporate. Or maybe it is.

And instantly.... (1, Insightful)

Monkelectric (546685) | more than 9 years ago | (#9962993)

Craigslist begins to suck.

Re:And instantly.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9963154)

Pretty much anything associated with eBay sucks.

The Return of the Bubble (1, Interesting)

otisg (92803) | more than 9 years ago | (#9963016)

I think this is a prime example of 'The Return of the Bubble'. Yahoo buying Outpost, Microsoft buying Lookout, EBay getting 25% of a 14-people, $25M/year business... where do yo uwant to go today? Your trading account site, I suggest.

Only America... (1)

Skiron (735617) | more than 9 years ago | (#9963036)

.. can come up with this crap I suppose.

Lists?? WTF - I expect Craig used the nice name for the site to get around a few laws on advertising dodgy things men get up to.

craigslist is for noobs ... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9963038)

wrong protocol entirely, http sucks next to nntp

in two words ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9963071)

sells out, or in one, pimped

Cool! (4, Funny)

shigelojoe (590080) | more than 9 years ago | (#9963079)

What was the winning bid?

Craigslist works well for a reason (5, Interesting)

RabidPuppetHunter (620593) | more than 9 years ago | (#9963099)

I've used Craigslist to sell loads of stuff very successfully. I prefer it because it allows me to sell things locally eliminating the need for shipping, and concerns with payment. I've sold everything so far with a "look at it, test it, if you like it pay cash" model. No frills ad, FREE and annonomous email. Simple and effective. I trust cash. No disatisfied buyers yet.

I've avoided ebay because I prefer local not global. I may be the only one that does not trust a buyer I do not meet. Ebay is not free or allowing annonomous email.

My hope is Craig keeps it simple and free. I still have lots of stuff I plan to sell and do not need the hassles of ebay. I doubt ebay can effectily morph to meet local and face to face transactions. certainly not for free...

I love craigslist (1)

chuot (789242) | more than 9 years ago | (#9963133)

Well, most of the classified websites force users to register, flood their with ads and spam. Craigslist don't. When I first moved to NY, I was looking for a new place to live and thank to Craigslist, I got it. Did you know that besides Craigslist, no other websites out there offers you for free? all of them require fee just to see the contact info. A year later I found out that there are tons of other things that I can do, and then I got my first part-time job there in a language school. I hate Ebay, but can't blame Craigslist because I can see that Craigslist makes no/very little of money right now. Just hope that evil Ebay still keep at least some of good aspects of Craiglist.

I don't know about this... (2, Insightful)

nlawalker (804108) | more than 9 years ago | (#9963149)

I hope Craigslist maintains its grassroots look and feel (doubtful), as well as customers. You can find more free crap on Craigslist than anywhere else I've ever seen. It's become a new hobby for our fraternity; a guy upstairs managed to get a three piece connected leather lounger with built in telephone and massager for free. We tried to hook up the school bus one guy offered but it didn't go through. Fishtanks, computer stuff... you can find anything on there.

FUCK NO PLEASE!!!!! (2, Insightful)

greymond (539980) | more than 9 years ago | (#9963155)

"Like craigslist, eBay is about helping folks get everyday stuff done, on a level playing field - they emphasize trustworthiness and reputation, and try really hard to listen to people. Basically, we're both about building community, and humanizing and democratizing the 'net, and there's gotta be more of that."

This is utter Bullshit. First off Craigslist has many sections a good portion of which are adult related (see the Erotic Section). In addition Craigslist also supports anonymous posting and emailing as well as a Rant and Rave section that is 100% uncensorsed by anyone other than the viewers of Craigslist. meaning that unless enough people "flag" a posting it can not be removed. Craigslist does not have intrusive ads, in fact most of their sections don't have any ads.

Ebay on the other hand and especially their payment company Paypal is totally for censuring adult related material and the language of it's auctions. Both things that Craigslist would never intrude upon. And I shouldn't even have to mention how many ads Ebay and Paypal have/use.

I for one hope someone else starts a Craigslist ripoff that continues a truly free and adless site.

Anti-Rockite! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9963176)

I live under a rock for religous purposes, you insensitive clod!

what's next... (5, Funny)

enrico_suave (179651) | more than 9 years ago | (#9963190)

Fark selling headlines?

e.

Google execs, pay attention (1)

sicking (589500) | more than 9 years ago | (#9963206)

Google should buy into craigslist! It would be the perfect way marrige. Both have the same philosophy of minimalist but useable interfaces. And googles search technologies and scaling knowledge should set a perfect course for craigslist.

Its a Shame ! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9963286)

Really, is.

we will now soon see trolls and spammers and other assorted junk flooding craigslist, and what was once a happy? sensible? community posting junk, will be replaced by junk people posting all assorted junk being read by happy? sensible? ......
oh, what the heck !

Personals Slam (1)

Malcs (95091) | more than 9 years ago | (#9963293)

I've come to really enjoy the personal ads on Craigslist. I love how you can reply to the ad itself not just to the person. It's like a slam where you get to go all smashmouth on idiots who haven't got a clue. The entertainment value alone is priceless.

Oh great, exorbitant fees for Craigslist now (0)

wsanders (114993) | more than 9 years ago | (#9963301)

(grumbling as a long time EBay user)

Craig's comment (3, Funny)

Lxy (80823) | more than 9 years ago | (#9963364)

When asked to comment on the purchase, Craig's only comment was "Fast Payment Welcome to Bid Anytime A+++++".

frist 4sot (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9963365)

Craigslist, oh how do I love thee? Let me count.. (2, Informative)

TheGeneration (228855) | more than 9 years ago | (#9963485)

I love Craigslist. It has become a very central part of bay area life, especially within San Francisco itself. If you live in SF chances are you found your current residence from an ad listed on craigslist, whether it was for an empty apartment, or one of the bajillion ads for room mates. I know that's how I found my current studio ($820/mo on Market Street, woohoo!!) apartment.

I'm not sure what E-bay would want from it. I understand that they charge for job listings, everything else on the site is free. Plus they are expanding to other cities rapidly. I guess maybe they actually make enough from the job listing ads to support the entire site and the salary of the people who work on it.
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