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Jabberwocky In ActionScript

CowboyNeal posted more than 10 years ago | from the lighter-side dept.

It's funny.  Laugh. 156

VeryVito writes "You can tell Flash programming is beginning to grow up: It's not just for designers anymore, but for real, honest-to-goodness tech geeks. As evidence, I present The ActionScript Jabberwocky. Enjoy!" It's almost as good as reading it in the original Klingon.

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first post (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9988899)

first post

Re:first post (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9988918)

No, actually that was post 9988899. Better luck next time.

Re:first post (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9988922)

No, actually that was post fuck you. Go screw yourself next time.

hello, Mods? (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9988945)

No, this is not a troll. Read the guidelines before you moderate next time...

Re:hello, Mods? (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9988949)

yes, but you're not crapflooding with GNAA press releases about the latest GayScript (tm) mechanisms used for crapflooding.

Apologies. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9988962)

True. I realise that a lot of development time and parent basement space has been put in to develop these amazing ToolScript technologies. I will think harder about my comments next time!

Ugh (2, Funny)

DrMrLordX (559371) | more than 10 years ago | (#9988900)

No more Romulan Ale at diplomatic functions! Jeez.

Oh My (4, Funny)

MikeDX (560598) | more than 10 years ago | (#9988902)

Jabberwocky in actionscript.. What's next may I ask? Shakespeare in perl?

Re:Oh My (5, Funny)

ESqVIP (782999) | more than 10 years ago | (#9988954)

Ohh, that's old. At least in regular expressions:
/bb|[^b]{2}/
I remember seeing that in a ThinkGeek t-shirt.

Re:Oh My (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9989106)

huh... I really can't tell which is more frightening; the fact that I got the joke or that I found it funny..

Re:Oh My (3, Funny)

WebMasterP (642061) | more than 10 years ago | (#9989164)

To add a little geek to this, my friends and I have long discussed that isn't actually correct.

To be or not to be implies an exlcusive or (known to some as XOR). That regular expression matches both 2-b's or not 2 b's.

I know, we have to much time on our hands.

Re:Oh My (1)

ESqVIP (782999) | more than 10 years ago | (#9989201)

Yeah, I agree. But I decided to leave that alone, as when I came up with /bb|(?!bb)/ I saw that it was too trivial to be as fun (since it would actually match anything).

Re:Oh My (1)

ESqVIP (782999) | more than 10 years ago | (#9989215)

Oh, and let me quote a signature I saw here on /., somewhat related to this subject... and quite funny to me:
0xBB | ~0xBB = 0xFFFFFFFF. So there...

Re:Oh My (1)

Zwets (645911) | more than 10 years ago | (#9989179)

Hmm, doesn't that read "two b or two not b" ("to be or to not be") ? How about..
/bb|(b[^b]|[^b]b|[^b][^b])/
Of course, this doesn't address the fact that a single letter or even an empty string clearly qualifies as "not two b". Oh well..

Re:Oh My (1)

hummassa (157160) | more than 10 years ago | (#9989351)

An *empty* string certainly qualifies as "not to be" :-)

How about... (1)

buford_tannen (555867) | more than 10 years ago | (#9989900)

An *empty* string certainly qualifies as "not to be" :-)

I failed "Fundamentals of Computer Science" the first time, you insensitive clod!

Oh wait... this isn't a poll. Carry on then.

Re:Oh My (1)

maxwell demon (590494) | more than 10 years ago | (#9989138)

Actually, more interesting would be perl in Shakespeare [ernet.in] .

Brilliant! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9989337)

This is utterly brilliant! One of the most beautiful programing languages I've ever seen. Well, the most.

A feeble effort (0, Offtopic)

Mr Guy (547690) | more than 10 years ago | (#9990019)

Lameness filter killed my attempt at Shakespeare in Perl. How rude.

Shakespeare in Perl in Journal [slashdot.org]

Re:Oh My (0)

ozbird (127571) | more than 10 years ago | (#9990023)

What's next may I ask?

The Dead Parrot Sketch [humorlinks.com] in Python?

Uhh (5, Insightful)

lightdarkness (791960) | more than 10 years ago | (#9988907)

I'm a tad confused, are we supposed to find this funny?

Re:Uhh (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9988924)

No, you are supposed to stick it up your ass and enjoy it.. just like Cowboy Neil does.

Re:Uhh (2, Funny)

essreenim (647659) | more than 10 years ago | (#9989003)

Flash. An archaic 21st century tool designed to cripple the speed of the most powerful machine

Re:Uhh (1)

jtrascap (526135) | more than 10 years ago | (#9989570)

Like most tools, only if you use it as a hammer...

Re:Uhh (3, Insightful)

DNS-and-BIND (461968) | more than 10 years ago | (#9989084)

Much of the homemade "humor" on the internet is like this. Someone's good idea that doesn't really fly. It would have been good for a faint smile if it had been aimed at a much, MUCH narrower audience instead of at Slashdot.

Everyone thinks they can be The Onion, and they can't. Sorry guys.

Re:Uhh (2, Funny)

maxwell demon (590494) | more than 10 years ago | (#9989162)

Of course they can be The Onion, at least in C:

#define they The Onion

The original... (5, Insightful)

Black Parrot (19622) | more than 10 years ago | (#9988909)


...made more sense.

bug? (3, Funny)

osmethnee (717516) | more than 10 years ago | (#9988912)

surely 'brillig' should be set to true?

Third Post (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9988913)

Speaking of honest to goodness geek culture... err, third post?

Re:Third Post (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9989129)

sorry, you only achieved turd post!

Cowboy Kneel (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9988915)

Cowboy Kneel is a motherfucking idiot. Go to hell, fatass.

Scripting in Europe! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9988916)

GNAA Announces Launch Of GNAA Europe

GNAA Announces Launch Of GNAA Europe

London, England - Top GNAA officials have confirmed the long-rumored launch of
the company's new European division, putting to rest myths that the
organization had reached stagnancy in its membership.



The announcement came on the heels of the 2nd quarter membership and financial
report of GNAA, Inc, which had reported a 15% decline in new memberships, down
from 250,000 in the previous quarter. Investor confidence in the public
company's stock dropped shortly afterwards, amid rumors of corruption and poor
management in the highest levels of GNAA.



"The launch of GNAA Europe should put to rest these myths, as well as open up
an entirely new market," announced GNAA spokesman penisbird, speaking from the
new GNAA Europe headquarters recently constructed in downtown London. "For
years, statistics have shown that Europe, with its generally more liberal
atmosphere than that of the United States, contains a higher percentage of gay
niggers. As GNAA membership places stringent standards on both the race and
sexual orientation of its applicants, a higher percentage of potential
candidates can only work to our advantage. From our consumer polls and
surveys, we expect to accept nearly 10,000 members into GNAA Europe in the
first week alone."



The new GNAA Europe headquarters, described as one of the most technologically
advanced and nigger-friendly corporate headquarters ever built, is a sure
indicator of GNAA's current success. With its lavish outside garden, complete
with African sculpture from renowned sculptor Gary Niger, as well as its grand
lobby featuring a 3-story ceiling and ornate gold decorations, the building has
attracted much attention from tourists and local residents alike. Even more
impressive is that which is not seen by the casual visitor: the specially
constructed "pleasure centers," accesible only to GNAA members, allow for
extravagent orgies with more than 100 participants each. Located on the upper
floors of the building, they provide food, entertainment, and bedding for
orgy-goers, as well as a wide selection of sex toys, including whips, chains,
lube, dildos, gloryhole booths, and even a sample of GNAA's mysterious new
pleasure-enhancing drug, code-named "NIGGERSEED."



Since its inception in 1992, GNAA, the Gay Nigger Association of America, has
been dedicated to uniting gay niggers for one common purpose: to be gay
niggers. Its rapid growth after its IPO showed strong public interest in the
endeavor, which is the first of its kind. More recently, GNAA has posted
profits in excess of $500 million every quarter in the last 4 years, placing it
among the most profitable of organization of its kind.


Re:Scripting in Europe! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9989013)

Hello, ever heard of outsourcing? I can't believe the GNAA is full of morons. Sell your trolling to Indians, and we'll do it at a quarter the price, and twice on Sundays.

JAI HIND.

Okay, but does it compile? (5, Insightful)

Vo0k (760020) | more than 10 years ago | (#9988927)

And if so, what does it do? I guess not much of an useful thing.
I think the Obfuscated C Code Contest poems in C were better, as they at least had to compile to something useful.

Re:Okay, but does it compile? (2, Interesting)

FoboldFKY (785255) | more than 10 years ago | (#9989291)

Perhaps, but this is an ActionScript programmer. If he had the requisite skills to munge the C preprocessor to produce poetry in code (that love letters one being my favourite), then he wouldn't be programming in ActionScript!

...he'd be programming in Perl :P

turdhead.com??? (1, Funny)

winkydink (650484) | more than 10 years ago | (#9988929)

How appropriate

"You fight like a dairy farmer!" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9989189)

How appropriate
Did anybody else mentally fill in "..., you fight like a cow!" after reading that?

free time... (2, Funny)

zxflash (773348) | more than 10 years ago | (#9988933)

ah the benefits of having lots of free time on your hands :)

The original (5, Informative)

Hew (31074) | more than 10 years ago | (#9988936)

Lewis Carroll

'Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe;
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.

"Beware the Jabberwock, my son!
The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun
The frumious Bandersnatch!"

He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought--
So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
And stood awhile in thought.

And, as in uffish thought he stood,
The Jabberwock, with eyes of flame,
Came whiffling through the tulgey wood,
And burbled as it came!

One two! One two! And through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back.

"And hast thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!"
He chortled in his joy.

'Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe;
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.

Re:The original (0, Redundant)

david.given (6740) | more than 10 years ago | (#9989245)

Pah. You cannot truly appreciate Jabberwocky until you have read it in the original Klingon...

puqloDwI' ja'pu'vawq Dayep
pe'vIl chop Ho'Du'Daj; pe'vIl Suq pachDu'Daj
Ha'DIbaH puv juchyub yIyep
bInDepSuHach vaQeHmuS ghombe' DanIDjaj

'etlhDaj veSpatlh HujtaH ghopDaj--
jagh HoSlaw' law' veqlargh Hos puS! nIteb nej nI'
vaj Sor tamtam, ghaH retlhDaq Qam
nI'be' leSlI' ghah (Sor retlhDaq) 'ej ghaH QublI'

(Courtesy of Keith Lim [pair.com] ...)

Re:The original (2, Informative)

lahi (316099) | more than 10 years ago | (#9989259)

And obviously the Flash programmer didn't understand a word of it, otherwise he would have written
mome.outgrabe(raths)
rather than
mome.raths(outgrabe)
-Lasse

Re:The original (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9989415)

"The mome rath hasn't been born that could outgrabe me."

Re:The original (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9991095)

Here is an old parody of the poem, i remember reading both this and the original in high school.

Jabberwacky

Twas Brillo and G.E. Stoves
Did Proctor-Gamble in the Glade
All Pillsbury were the Tasty Loaves
And in a Minute Maid

"Beware the Station Break, my son,
The voice that lulls, the ads that vex,
Beware the Doctor's Claim and shun
That horror called Brand-X!"

He took his Q-Tip swab in hand,
Long time the Tension Headache fought,
So Dristan he by a Mercury,
And Bayer break'd in thought.

And as in Bufferin Gulf he stood,
The Station Break, with Rise of Tame,
Came Whisking through the Pride-hazed wood,
And Cream-Rinsed as it came!

"Buy one, buy two, we're almost through!"
The Q-Tip Dash went Spic-and-Span,
He Tide Airwick, and with Bisquick,
Went Aero-Waxing Ban.

"And hast thou Dreft the Station Break?
Ajax the Breck, Excedrin boy,
Oh Fab wash day! Cashmere Bouquet!"
He Handi-wrapped with Joy.

Twas Brillo and G.E. Stoves
Did Proctor-Gamble in the Glade
All Pillsbury were the Tasty-Loaves
And in a Minute Maid.

Mad Magazine, circa 1961

The tide has changed (3, Insightful)

larsl (30423) | more than 10 years ago | (#9988938)

I think it's been two years since I've had to email a webmaster and ask, "Flash only--WTF?" There are still some rubes in non-tech industries that load up on Flash crap, but isn't Flash mostly an anachronism these days?

Re:The tide has changed (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9988967)

isn't Flash mostly an anachronism

Redundant use of "an".

isn't Flash mostly an achronism

Get a dictionary. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9989002)

"achronism" isn't a word. "Anachronism" is.

Re:The tide has changed (-1, Offtopic)

Viol8 (599362) | more than 10 years ago | (#9989015)

"anachromism" is a noun , not an adjective. Therefor an article is required. Perhaps you should learn english better before posting.

Re:The tide has changed (1)

deimtee (762122) | more than 10 years ago | (#9989046)

anachromism" is a noun , not an adjective. Therefor an article is required. Perhaps you should learn english better before posting.

That's a rather colourless comment.

Re:The tide has changed (1)

tehcyder (746570) | more than 10 years ago | (#9989397)

Grandparent says "an anachronism" now, has it been edited or something?

Re:The tide has changed (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9989017)

Redundant use of moronic brain. The rest of this comment is just to get past the lameness filter, and I wish a nice woman would suck my cock.

Re:The tide has changed (0)

Vo0k (760020) | more than 10 years ago | (#9989126)

Stop trofling poor gnerk, his brilusive postment was truxceptionally Lewiscarollian in its arture!

Flash is good (2, Funny)

Jeppe Salvesen (101622) | more than 10 years ago | (#9989085)

to some degree. The player is widely distributed, so if you have the creativity and talent to make something richer than plain ole web pages - why not?

Just make a really plain html version - those people who have either disabilities or an anti-flash bias will appreciate the simplicity as their browsers or minds respectively will not be able to process all that pretty design anyhow.

Re:Flash is good (1, Insightful)

vidarh (309115) | more than 10 years ago | (#9989121)

The only thing flash is good for is making it easier for me to selectively turn off ads and annoying useless content in a quick and painless way (obviously by making sure NOT to have the player)

Click to View is better... (3, Insightful)

FooAtWFU (699187) | more than 10 years ago | (#9989503)

I prefer the Flash Click to View extension for Firefox (although I haven't seen a version for 0.9! WHERE'S MY VERSION FOR 0.9?!?!?!). This replaces the Flashiness with abig grey button I can click if I want it to show for some reason (the inane web site). I find that WITHOUT the plugin, I get message boxes complaining about the lack of the plugin far too often.

Re:Flash is good (1)

Fred_A (10934) | more than 10 years ago | (#9989499)

The player may be widely distributed but it won't run on Linux on my AMD64 machine (or a Mac, or a number of other architectures). So since there are no alternatives to the Macromedia player that we can compile ourselves, HTML content is still much appreciated.

And the (smallish) AMD64 crowd is at least at an advantadge since we can at least setup a 32 bit subsystem and use that hack to run 32 bit binaries. It does require installing a second copy of most of the OS though. So you end up with the regular 64 bit OS, plus 32 bit copies of most libraries for the 32 bit binaries that will run inside the 64 bit environment (quite a few do), plus a complete chrooted 32 bit OS for apps that won't run inside the 64 bit system. So we at least have a solution. sortof...

Re:Flash is good (4, Funny)

edremy (36408) | more than 10 years ago | (#9989878)

The player may be widely distributed but it won't run on Linux on my AMD64 machine (or a Mac, or a number of other architectures)

That's funny- my (OSX) Mac runs Flash just fine. It also runs Flash fine in Classic emulation mode Not only that, I've got the MX development kit for it, which is indistinguishable from the PC version.

Or do you mean Flash isn't available for Linux running on a Mac? I'm sure all 3 of you must be very unhappy. If you're using odd combinations of hardware, don't expect to get much commercial support.

Re:Flash is good (2, Insightful)

Fred_A (10934) | more than 10 years ago | (#9990552)

And *oh surprise* all Windows users can also run Flash player without trouble. I know it runs on MacOS, don't be silly.

However all users of odd combinations of hardware and software end up making quite a lot of people in the end. And the point of the web actually *is* to make documents device independant. Using Flash for navigation or vital content breaks that.

Re:The tide has changed (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9989099)

There are still some rubes in non-tech industries that load up on Flash crap, but isn't Flash mostly an anachronism these days?

Uh, no. What makes you think that? Flash is *everywhere*. Hell, even Slashdot show Flash ads.

So the player isn't open source. Big deal. Macromedia provide specs so you can write your own player and embrace it.

Re:The tide has changed (1)

tehcyder (746570) | more than 10 years ago | (#9989413)

rubes in non-tech industries
So, like, the majority of the Web then?

If you spent some rube time surfing, you would know that there are only too many Flash only sites still around.

Re:The tide has changed (4, Insightful)

PhoenixFlare (319467) | more than 10 years ago | (#9989687)

but isn't Flash mostly an anachronism these days?

Only if you hold to the attitude that if you don't like or find something useful, then nobody else could possibly get any value out of it.

Which seems to be all too common around here, sadly.

Flash can be a great tool for animation, games, and even site navigation if used properly.

State of Flash (2, Insightful)

jaaron (551839) | more than 10 years ago | (#9990345)

Flash is alive and well. It's increasingly used for games, ads, online cartoons, and what are often called "rich internet applications."

Like any other technology, Flash has its place. It can be abused (like javascript) but also fills a niche and solves many problems very well (IMHO much better than Java Applets). I doubt you'll find someone writing up technical documentation in it, but for a web based interactive game or animation, it's a good choice.

Homestar Runner (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9990868)

http://www.homestarrunner.com/ [homestarrunner.com]

True geeks? (5, Insightful)

dmayle (200765) | more than 10 years ago | (#9988950)

You can tell Flash programming is beginning to grow up

Quite the contrary. I'll believe it's beginning to grow up when I see a non-Macromedia plugin, and someone's ported DeCSS to it... ;)

GNAA Announces Launch Of GNAA Europe (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9988958)

GNAA Announces Launch Of GNAA Europe

London, England - Top GNAA officials have confirmed the long-rumored launch of
the company's new European division, putting to rest myths that the
organization had reached stagnancy in its membership.

The announcement came on the heels of the 2nd quarter membership and financial
report of GNAA, Inc, which had reported a 15% decline in new memberships, down
from 250,000 in the previous quarter. Investor confidence in the public
company's stock dropped shortly afterwards, amid rumors of corruption and poor
management in the highest levels of GNAA.

"The launch of GNAA Europe should put to rest these myths, as well as open up
an entirely new market," announced GNAA spokesman penisbird, speaking from the
new GNAA Europe headquarters recently constructed in downtown London. "For
years, statistics have shown that Europe, with its generally more liberal
atmosphere than that of the United States, contains a higher percentage of gay
niggers. As GNAA membership places stringent standards on both the race and
sexual orientation of its applicants, a higher percentage of potential
candidates can only work to our advantage. From our consumer polls and
surveys, we expect to accept nearly 10,000 members into GNAA Europe in the
first week alone."

The new GNAA Europe headquarters, described as one of the most technologically
advanced and nigger-friendly corporate headquarters ever built, is a sure
indicator of GNAA's current success. With its lavish outside garden, complete
with African sculpture from renowned sculptor Gary Niger, as well as its grand
lobby featuring a 3-story ceiling and ornate gold decorations, the building has
attracted much attention from tourists and local residents alike. Even more
impressive is that which is not seen by the casual visitor: the specially
constructed "pleasure centers," accesible only to GNAA members, allow for
extravagent orgies with more than 100 participants each. Located on the upper
floors of the building, they provide food, entertainment, and bedding for
orgy-goers, as well as a wide selection of sex toys, including whips, chains,
lube, dildos, gloryhole booths, and even a sample of GNAA's mysterious new
pleasure-enhancing drug, code-named "NIGGERSEED."

Since its inception in 1992, GNAA, the Gay Nigger Association of America, has
been dedicated to uniting gay niggers for one common purpose: to be gay
niggers. Its rapid growth after its IPO showed strong public interest in the
endeavor, which is the first of its kind. More recently, GNAA has posted
profits in excess of $500 million every quarter in the last 4 years, placing it
among the most profitable of organization of its kind.

Jabberwocky? Klingon? (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9988961)

Sure sounds grown up. ;-D

Actionscript login systems (1, Insightful)

dncsky1530 (711564) | more than 10 years ago | (#9988972)

I have always been wary of using actionscript for anything other than banner ads and website introductions. One thing I have seen is that people use actionscript for login systems; which can usually be hacked in less than 1 minute (with exception of SQl based), most people use this tutorial [flashkit.com] infact.

Re:Actionscript login systems (5, Insightful)

Jotham (89116) | more than 10 years ago | (#9989377)

So basically...

Flash allows me to use if statements
Some people use this to write if (answer=="Password") {...
therefore I should be wary of flash

And this is modded as Insightful?

Just another, "You can do stupid things in Flash, therefore Flash is bad", post. Wouldn't the better lesson to be learnt be, don't trust client-side code as security.

PS. Drag a C/C++ program in notepad and you can see all it's ASCII strings too...

Naw - I'd rather see ActionScript Wumpus (2, Funny)

Zawash (147532) | more than 10 years ago | (#9988979)

I'd rather see a nice, fancy Hunt the Wumpus ActionScript - but I'm not sure a graphical interface would do the game justice..
It would have to be the Doom III engine, then. :)

Re:Naw - I'd rather see ActionScript Wumpus (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9989146)

How about Hunt the Wampa by the Clone Wars Crew?

The Hunting of the Snark (3, Insightful)

panurge (573432) | more than 10 years ago | (#9988988)

To be proper Flash, this needs massive load times. What about doing the Hunting of the Snark?

Actually, Dodgson needs to be encoded in a seriously object oriented language. The various characters have methods and properties...it'll look better after I've slept on it.

Bragging about Flash on Slashdot? (4, Funny)

DeComposer (551766) | more than 10 years ago | (#9988991)

Isn't that like bragging about your Packard Bell 486SX-25 running Windows 95 on a 14" grayscale monitor? With no mouse?

Re:Bragging about Flash on Slashdot? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9988996)

Bragging about Flash on Slashdot?

Isn't that like bragging about your Packard Bell 486SX-25 running Windows 95 on a 14" grayscale monitor? With no mouse?


Damn straight it is! BAD ASS.

Re:Bragging about Flash on Slashdot? (2, Funny)

mr_z_beeblebrox (591077) | more than 10 years ago | (#9989324)

Isn't that like bragging about your Packard Bell 486SX-25 running Windows 95 on a 14" grayscale monitor? With no mouse?

Why is everyone so jealous of my PC!

Re:Bragging about Flash on Slashdot? (1)

meringuoid (568297) | more than 10 years ago | (#9990050)

Running Windows '95 on a 486SX-25? Dear me no. Painful. I recommend you upgrade to at least a DX2-66 with eight megs of RAM before you even consider that.

Re:Bragging about Flash on Slashdot? (1)

Elminst (53259) | more than 10 years ago | (#9990500)

Why?
I ran that exact setup (with 12M RAM on a 106 Meg [yes, MEG] hard drive) and it ran '95 fine.
Running applications other than notepad or the solitaire games made for some fun load times, but they still ran fine.

Perl Poetry (3, Informative)

Rufus211 (221883) | more than 10 years ago | (#9988995)

I personally think that most Perl Poetry [google.com] is far more interesting and original.

Hmm... (-1, Redundant)

PsiPsiStar (95676) | more than 10 years ago | (#9989007)

It's nice. But it sure ain't perl poetry.

What about Shockwave/Director (1)

Nonoche (138802) | more than 10 years ago | (#9989014)

hey if Flash isn't just for designers anymore I guess that would make Director & Shockwave the new tech toys [nonoche.com] for ubergeeks...

Get a life (-1)

heneganj (786136) | more than 10 years ago | (#9989023)

Seriously, get a life!

WTF? (3, Funny)

jonr (1130) | more than 10 years ago | (#9989032)

What idiot greenlighted this? Oh...

Faust (1)

tomee (792877) | more than 10 years ago | (#9989080)

I won't be impressed until all of Göthes Faust is done in ActionScript.

Re:Faust (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9989167)

fuck you

Re:Faust (1)

B2382F29 (742174) | more than 10 years ago | (#9989180)

Actually it is "Goethe" not "Göthe"

Re:Faust (1)

tomee (792877) | more than 10 years ago | (#9990966)

True. When I saw my post it looked wrong. I'll try to remember the preview button from now on.

Goethe[sic] might agree (1)

panurge (573432) | more than 10 years ago | (#9990180)

Excuse my inability to get written German right, but didn't he actually write something like
Nur mit Beschrankten zeigt sich erst der Meister
- i.e. it is through working within limitations that one shows ones mastery of something. And Doktor Faustus in Actionscript would be working in one hell of a limitation.

I like the ? thing (1)

Basehart (633304) | more than 10 years ago | (#9989083)

Some trick of the light no doubt, but super cool all the same!

Can't be worse than Vogon! (2, Funny)

tod_miller (792541) | more than 10 years ago | (#9989127)

Computing magazine (UK) has a back-bytes page which showcased some funny computer language based lyrics and poems.

Jabberwocky is a fantastic piece of work, it is the picasso of text, the lurid incandecent imagination of profound insanity.

I think it should be in Python, Perl and php (sic) now.

Lets not forget JavaWocky...

... That's the question! (1)

vivia (775708) | more than 10 years ago | (#9989154)

BB---|---------[OR]___
|_[NOT]___[ ]

Couldn't draw logic gates in ASCII art, but if you follow it, it reads "Two 'B' or not two 'B'" ... And, logically, it's always true!

Re:... That's the question! (1)

mattyrobinson69 (751521) | more than 10 years ago | (#9989243)

what i think your after i a diode. get an LED, coz they're cool.

get a blue one, coz theyre cooler.

Dodgy URLs on Slashdot? (1)

IngramJames (205147) | more than 10 years ago | (#9989166)

May I please ask, for the benefit of those of use whose web URLs are logged at work, that URLS like that one are highlighted as "you may not want to click this at work under any circumstances because it's got a well-dodgy URL that could stand out like a sore thumb in weblogs as being potentially offensive"?

For those that don't know, the link is to "turdhead.com"

Sheesh!

Re:Dodgy URLs on Slashdot? (5, Insightful)

mr_z_beeblebrox (591077) | more than 10 years ago | (#9989347)

May I please ask, for the benefit of those of use whose web URLs are logged at work

Might I ask that to avoid being a luser you look to see what you are clicking on and don't depend on the admins to hold your hand? Seriously, that attitude is WHY viruses and trojans spread (albeit different circumstances)

Re:Dodgy URLs on Slashdot? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9989744)

It's rediculous to think someone would get their panties all in a bundle over that. I think you need to lighten up. Besides I think most admins avoid logging as much as possible so they can't know because they really don't want to know. If you work somewhere that would get angry with you over that, then they were probably already angry that you were even reading slashdot instead of working.

turdhead is about the equivelent of "doodoo-head", which is something the 3 yr olds call eachother. Maybe it's not all grown up and mature. But I'd rather be a kid who can smile and laugh, than some old frigid jaded geezer that overreacts to the most trivial things. When the last time you smiled or laughed. Do you still have a pulse? Why don't you go put away the laptop, turn off the cell phone and pager, go wander around nature and forget about work for a while. Sounds like you need a break.

Actually ActionScript has grown up (4, Informative)

Qbertino (265505) | more than 10 years ago | (#9989358)

Because MM ignored Linux, I ignored Flash for two years after having finished some large projects with it (and thus noticed it's shortcomings), but earlier this year a client aproached me with a large Flash / ActionScript job and after looking into it I took the challange.
The MM Flash IDE is as crappy as ever, but ActionScript 2 is a full range PL, very similar to Java. With proper exception handling, OOP and all that stuff.
as. files can be imported and compiled in meaning you don't have to use MMs shoddy AS editor anymore. Despite the utter crap that's said about AS and Flash on /., it is a powerfull technology with some very cool and unique features. And it's powerfull VM is *very* small by modern standards. Due to the fact that Flashers usually can't programm very well it isn't catching on that good, but I expect Flash/AS 2 to gain serious foothold in other territories than 'flashy websites' very soon. Ming [sourceforge.net] and Xical [xical.org] , for instance, are good examples for serious OSS projects using Flash/ActionScript.

huuurrahhh (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9989504)

well said and its nice to see a positive comment.

after all - lets be honest - its a hell of a lot nicer to look at than anything acheivable in HTML (And a lot more reliable not so much of that browser difference issue to worry about).

and yes this is from experience - i use flash as The tool for the front end side of projects.
eg,
a net based multi player quiz (- xmlsocket comms back to server)
interactive educational tools.
data reporting front end (loading xml data and graphically displaying it). ...and oh pleeeaasse... that old 'it takes so long to download' argument is really starting to age a bit.

actually on that note - can we have a wee survey... who here is looking at these pages via 56k dial in? ;)

fuc+ker (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9989384)

ltossers, went out gon3 Romeo and

Flash = Thin Client (2, Informative)

truffle (37924) | more than 10 years ago | (#9989901)

Flash has grown up. What it represents (to me) is a potentially really solid thin client for building remote applications.

Why not use Java? Well compare the amount and quality of flash games to java games, that's my metric for my belief that at least for gaming, that flash is probably a better dev environment.

But the huge problem right now is the lack of quality documentation/tutorials/books on actionscript 2.0 (released last november). It's not completely backwards compatible. Most of the books are oriented towards dumbasses, and they are just actionscript 1.0 books with the code tweaked so it works on 2.0 (i.e. not OOPy).

If anyone has a good recommendation in terms of actionscript 2.0 books, I'd appreciate it. I have this one [oreilly.com] , which is a good book, but is very oriented towards AS1.0 programmers moving to AS2.0. It's hard to find a book that is geek friendly, example oriented, and designed from scratch for actionscript 2.0.

Three words "Sony Sonicstage Sucks" (1)

Chineseyes (691744) | more than 10 years ago | (#9990499)

I can't believe I actually read this on filth on slashdot. Anyone who needs to know exactly why actionscript/flash should NEVER EVER be used as a programming tool just needs to look at Sony Sonicstage and Sony simple burner. Those two programs prove how dog slow and bloated flash really is. If you haven't had the displeasure of using those programs with a minidisc player you don't know the true pain of using flash based programs.

Dol7 (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9990526)

notorIous OpenBSD Milestones, 7elling Told reporters, users. This is

Bah (4, Informative)

xenostar (746407) | more than 10 years ago | (#9991080)

All the Flash-bashing on Slashdot has got to stop. Macromedia has done an outstanding job with Flash. They developed an extremely efficient file format (take a look at the SWF file format specification, it's truly beautiful), they opened it for everyone to use. They developed a powerful language, that, although of course interpreted, compiles into something as close to a binary as you can get. Yes, their IDE costs money, and there's no native linux version, but i see people who paid money for MSVS bitch about it, and i dont have to explain the irony here. And as far as a native linux version, well, that is for the same reasons that no other major company ported their software, because not enough people would buy it. So, please, stop harping on it so much, it's a result of many people's hard work and cudos to them for making it so popular.

mod u4 (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9991225)

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