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OS Stats Removed From Google's Zeitgeist

simoniker posted more than 9 years ago | from the teacup-tsunami dept.

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Kelly McNeill writes "Google's Zeitgeist service is sometimes used by news sources as a resource to generate install-base (don't call it market share!), statistics for operating systems. osViews contacted Google to bring some clarity to questionable aspects of the OS statistic, to which Google said that Zeitgeist is only a fun search inquiry resource and should not be used to generate statistical information. A couple days after that inquiry, we found that Google has since removed the OS stats from the Zeitgeist service."

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Re:Tube Steak for GNAA LESS THAN 3 GOAT SEE (-1, Troll)

SeaFox (739806) | more than 9 years ago | (#10006980)

How did this get to be first post?

"Browser Stats also Gone" was the first post when I looked at the comments just before posting a reply.

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first post (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10006906)

meh

Browser stats also gone (4, Interesting)

friedegg (96310) | more than 9 years ago | (#10006907)

I know a lot of people were waiting to see the July browser stats to see if Internet Explorer share dropped off after the vulnerability announcements last month.

Re:Browser stats also gone (5, Funny)

IGTeRR0r (805236) | more than 9 years ago | (#10006998)

Not that it matters...using the firefox User Agent Switcher Extension [chrispederick.com] I changed mine to "Internet Explorer" just to trick people like you into thinking I was still using IE after the vulnerabilities...

Re:Browser stats also gone (5, Insightful)

Nos. (179609) | more than 9 years ago | (#10007056)

I don't understand while people do this. I'm proud of the fact that I use firefox over IE. I know some pages did display different results if you were using a browser other than IE (didn't Opra get a big payout from MS for this?), but just to fool people and throw off stats doesn't seem like a good reason to me. Like most people on Slashdot, I'd like to see Firefox's market share increase to a point where IE didn't (at least try to) define standards for html,css,xhtml, etc.

Re:Browser stats also gone (5, Insightful)

McDutchie (151611) | more than 9 years ago | (#10007085)

I don't understand while people do this.
Because there are websites that won't let you in unless you make it think you are using Internet Explorer. If that website happens to be essential to you, you are left without a choice.

I do think it would be better if it were possible to change the UID string for specific sites, and perhaps even to make it impossible to change it for all sites.

Re:Browser stats also gone (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10007191)

You can try this [mozilla.org] .

Re:Browser stats also gone (1)

IGTeRR0r (805236) | more than 9 years ago | (#10007133)

I was joking, but the other person said it quite well...sometimes, I use it because sites don't let me in without IE, it's very handy and delicious.

The only reason this article was posted... (5, Insightful)

rd_syringe (793064) | more than 9 years ago | (#10007061)

...was so people can't refer to Zeitgeist's damning 1% Linux usage statistic anymore when discussing desktop Linux. If you disagree, let me know why.

Re:The only reason this article was posted... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10007117)

...was so people can't refer to Zeitgeist's damning 1% Linux usage statistic anymore when discussing desktop Linux. If you disagree, let me

I disagree because:

a) whether or not Slashdot post the story has no impact on whether people can use Zeitgeist's damning stats for anything; and

b) you're an idiot.

Re:The only reason this article was posted... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10007136)

whether or not Slashdot post the story has no impact on whether people can use Zeitgeist's damning stats for anything;

it's an attempt to discredit it by saying it was so inaccurate that Google removed it

Re:The only reason this article was posted... (0, Flamebait)

ValourX (677178) | more than 9 years ago | (#10007129)

You fool, this is a Mac website! The real reason is so that no one can dis crApple's installed base.

-Jem

Re:The only reason this article was posted... (2, Insightful)

mindfucker (778407) | more than 9 years ago | (#10007168)

I don't think there's anything "damning" about that figure at all. We all know gnu/linux is still a niche phenomenon on Desktops, and 1% of all people accessing Google is _millions_ of people. That's pretty a damn respectable figure in my book.

Re:The only reason this article was posted... (4, Insightful)

rd_syringe (793064) | more than 9 years ago | (#10007192)

Well, it's not damning to you, but to the "Linux on the desktop will over take Mac within a year" people, it's a damning statistic. I believe the article was accepted as a general discrediting of that statistic. We don't know why Google removed the statistic or how accurate or innaccurate it was. The implication by this article is that the statistic was meaningless or somehow so faulty that Google felt the need to remove it. Unless Google officially states such, I think it's premature to make such assumptions. Just my opinion.

ha (5, Insightful)

Quasar1999 (520073) | more than 9 years ago | (#10006909)

I have a question for slashdot... can I use your polls for scientific research? Will my request result in slashdot removing their polls section? What kind of a crazy assed reaction is this? Why not just put a disclaimer up on the page that says, not scientific.

Re:ha (5, Funny)

Tackhead (54550) | more than 9 years ago | (#10007105)

> I have a question for slashdot... can I use your polls for scientific research? Will my request result in slashdot removing their polls section? What kind of a crazy assed reaction is this? Why not just put a disclaimer up on the page that says, not scientific.

Well, you can't for Slashdot, because the poll page is pretty clear about it, but that reminds me.

"Can I use Google Zeitgeist for scientific research?"

Yes ................. 82% 7122 / 82%<BR>
No .... 18% 1560 / 18% <BR>
Only if you give CowboyNeal 100,000 shares of GOOG . 0.1% / 1 / 0.1%

Don't complain about lack of options. Most people are only after for pictures of the latest RIAA pop star's tits. Those are the breaks.
Feel free to Google for something else if you're feeling creative. I'd strongly suggest grepping "goatse" out of the past Zeitgeist logs first.
It's a good thing that Google Zeitgeist isn't wildly inaccurate. Rounding errors, User-Agent spoofers, dynamic IPs, proxies. If you're using these numbers to decide whether to invest in our IPO, you're behaving at least as rationally as anybody else is in this market.

So if you're using Google Zeitgeist, I'd say go nuts, but only as long as every image search query returns a picture of that squirrel from Fark.

Re:ha (1)

ShinmaWa (449201) | more than 9 years ago | (#10007169)

can I use your polls for scientific research?

I sure hope so! If there's one thing that needs a lot of scientific research, that one thing would be CowboyNeal.

(/tongue-in-cheek)

Re:ha (3, Interesting)

Trurl's Machine (651488) | more than 9 years ago | (#10007209)

I have a question for slashdot... can I use your polls for scientific research? Will my request result in slashdot removing their polls section? What kind of a crazy assed reaction is this?

It's actually typical for a public company. Just imagine that someone sues Google because he was indeed using Google Zeitgeist for some scientific research, unaware that it was just for fun. It doesn't matter that this claim is ridiculous. Its very existence will most likely create negative market reaction. Even if the shares drop for just 1%, if you are among the company's top rank, it will generate enormous loss for you. If you have, say, 100.000.000 dollars in company stock, you have just lost 1 megabuck just because of this crazy accusation. So public companies act rather paranoid in situations like this. That's the reason why media in the US were too chicken to say "tobacco is addictive". Just the very thought of being sued by big tobacco companies made every CEO of every media corporation to wet his pants with fear. Expect more "crazy assed" reactions from Google as they continue to "go public".

Bets are on... (5, Funny)

conner_bw (120497) | more than 9 years ago | (#10006910)

Google is developing their own OS. Anyone want to provide the odds?

Re:Bets are on... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10006929)

how is that related to the article?

Not in Google's interest (4, Insightful)

SeaFox (739806) | more than 9 years ago | (#10006952)

Who needs an operating system when you run all your services through a portal on a cross platform environment like the web?

Re:Bets are on... (3, Interesting)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 9 years ago | (#10006963)

I've been considering that for awhile. I think Google would do really well if they produced a complete operating system that leveraged their web services and PageRank technology. Imagine if you could finally get rid of those annoying directory structures and just used "Google Hard Drive Search"! And all your bookmarks could be searched in a similar fashion! No need to bother with organizing them!

Re:Bets are on... (4, Funny)

edalytical (671270) | more than 9 years ago | (#10007114)

Will relevant text ads be displayed based on the content of your files? Or will you have to pay to run Google OS?

Re:Bets are on... (1)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 9 years ago | (#10007132)

I'm thinking that they'd only do it as a combination hardware/software platform. Trying to add support for all existing hardware platforms will get them in as much hot water as Sun is in with JDS.

Re:Bets are on... (1)

tuple (791840) | more than 9 years ago | (#10007140)

Yes, we need gLinux! The OS that analyzes our open files and presents us with adverts related to what we are working on.

no no, boulliabaise (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10006915)

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Removing OS stats (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10006916)

Is this because *BSD is dying?

Please put `em back! (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10006927)

I think I speak for everyone when I say...

Please put `em back!

Re:Please put `em back! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10007012)

You don't speak for me! I would have used a ' not a `.

MSN (5, Funny)

prostoalex (308614) | more than 9 years ago | (#10006931)

Hopefully MSN will pick up where Google left off and provide free unbiased stats.

Re:MSN (2, Funny)

kagaku (774787) | more than 9 years ago | (#10007180)

In which case Linux will suddenly have a 25% increase in market share.

"Yes sir Mr. DOJ, we no longer have a monopoly!"

Huh (1)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 9 years ago | (#10006935)

How do you like that. I didn't even know that Zeitgeist [google.com] existed! I do use their calculator and Google Sets [google.com] though.

I would use their personalized web search, but it needs some work. Having both interests in "Sci-Fi" and "Naval military" causes problems when I'm looking up specs on the carrier Enterprise (CVN-65 & CVN-6). I suggested that they allow you to choose a specific category at search time, but I never got a response. :-(

Re:Huh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10007043)

CVN-6? Don't you mean CV-6?

Re:Huh (1)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 9 years ago | (#10007100)

CVN-6? Don't you mean CV-6?

Suckered someone in hook, line, and sinker. :-)

The USS Enterprise was originally given the CV-6 designation to demonstrate that she was a "Carrier Vessel". However, after extensive war operations she was refitted for nighttime/round-the-clock operations. To signify this, her designation was changed to CVN-6 (Carrier Vessel, Night).

The current Enterprise is also capable of round-the-clock operations, but has the designation for a different reason. CVN-65 in her case stands for "Carrier Vessel, Nuclear".

I can see why... (5, Interesting)

TWX (665546) | more than 9 years ago | (#10006942)

If people are citing Google's "just for fun" figures as something to base critical decisions on, Google could be subject to liability for the accuracy of the figures. Granted, it's not likely that a lawsuit would succeed, but simply having to defend against one wouldn't be very good.

Sigh. (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10006999)

You surely do live in the greatest country in the world.

Re:Sigh. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10007201)

Yeah, britain rocks!

Re:I can see why... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10007087)

Google never provided numbesr, they gave an itty bitty graph that was pretty hard to extrapulate any real information from. Anyone who cited it would be laugh out of court.
"See the google picture of the os usage seen here, is 150px high, since the little pink line intersects the edge at 15px we can extrapulate that it represents..."

Re:I can see why... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10007156)

If people are citing Google's "just for fun" figures as something to base critical decisions on, Google could be subject to liability for the accuracy of the figures. Granted, it's not likely that a lawsuit would succeed, but simply having to defend against one wouldn't be very good.

Why not just put a EULA on the page?
If you use this info for anything important, you hereby admit that you are a dumbass and so's
your sleazy, no-count worthless scumbag of a lawyer."


Good riddance; hope it comes back (2, Interesting)

LeninZhiv (464864) | more than 9 years ago | (#10006944)

Good riddance, as I agree with OsViews that the statistic was scarcely credible. All the same, I'd like to see a more finely-tuned version come out someday that does reflect the OS of google users come out someday. That truly would be a useful rubric with which to track the 'zeitgeist' of the net.

Re:Good riddance; hope it comes back (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10007088)

You are only saying that because it proved that Linux was significantly further back from OS X than the chorus of Linux fanboys around here seem to think.

What I don't get (4, Interesting)

r.jimenezz (737542) | more than 9 years ago | (#10006953)

That Google doesn't want to talk to the press now, I understand.

That the OS/browser stats would not be too reliable (I assume they are computed similarly, via the User Agent String) I can also easily understand.

That they took the stats off Zeitgeist, however, that's what I don't get. Wonder if they are now a bit paranoid about all things media after their recent faux pas?

BTW, those who don't like reading the articles would wish all stories were like this ;)

Accuracy (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10006968)

The big problem with the Zeitgeist stats, from what I've heard, is that they only recorded the same IP address once. For people who are more likely to have a broadband connection, which is probably true of Mac and Linux users, they get counted less because their IP address changes less frequently. As Google said, it's just for fun.

It's a real shame (3, Interesting)

barcodez (580516) | more than 9 years ago | (#10006969)

It's a real shame Google have removed this interesting stat as it is as good as any browser/os statistic available due to the huge an ecletic user base of Google.

I guess things are changing at Google and their free , open and considerate attitude is set to change with the IPO.

The search results I've been getting from Google have been decreasing in usefulness at an alarming rate over the last year - it's sad to see Google go this way.

Erie (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10006971)

Mozilla finally gains market share and ...(poof) ... Google stops collecting evidence.

Do People From GOOGLE Read /.? (2, Interesting)

thoolie (442789) | more than 9 years ago | (#10006990)

Because if they do, this would be a GREAT time to respond to WHY THEY REMOVED the OS Stat?

I just found Zeitgeist the other day, and it is a pretty cool tool. Why on earth would they want to take features away?

Re:Do People From GOOGLE Read /.? (2, Informative)

offpath3 (604739) | more than 9 years ago | (#10007053)

Many companies have policies fobiding their employees from commenting on public discussion boards about their company or products. It would not surprise me if Google had this.

But they don't (or didn't) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10007127)

"GoogleGuy" (a real, verified Google employee) was a regular poster on WebmasterWorld prior to all the IPO stuff. He's been pretty quiet the past few months.

What about slashdot.org statistics? (5, Interesting)

gmajor (514414) | more than 9 years ago | (#10006995)

I, for one, would be very interested in seeing the browser and OS breakdown on Slashdot. IIRC, slashdot has not given out this info in the past?

Re:What about slashdot.org statistics? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10007103)

I, for one, would be very interested in seeing the browser and OS breakdown on Slashdot. IIRC, slashdot has not given out this info in the past?

That's because we know the results would be something like: 80% Windows, 15% OS X, 2% BSD, 2% Solaris, 1% Linux... : p

Re:What about slashdot.org statistics? (2, Interesting)

rd_syringe (793064) | more than 9 years ago | (#10007111)

Back when Slashdot still had public statistics, as well as what Malda and crew said in a past IRC conversation (so keep in mind the stats are a few years old), Windows and IE were the dominant environments.

Re:What about slashdot.org statistics? (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10007120)

Slashdot's userbase would know how to game the results, there's only so many months you can analyse stats from
Gorganzilla/5.0 Big_Cheeze (X11; U; Linux i686; gaping-anus; rv:1.7)
Goatse/20040811 Watercat/0.9.3+

Re:What about slashdot.org statistics? (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10007121)

They did, years ago. It was dropped, depending on whom you believe, because it served no value or because it was embarassing to show 75% Windows hits. Probably both. Slashdotted sites still report an overwhelming majority of Windows/IE hits.

Re:What about slashdot.org statistics? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10007165)

Slashdotted sites still report an overwhelming majority of Windows/IE hits.

I mainly read /. on work time, on a work computer, running MS Windows/IE. If I wanted to waste 8 hours a day of my own time reading this garbage then things would look different, no?

Re:What about slashdot.org statistics? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10007124)


I, for one, would be very interested in seeing the browser and OS breakdown on Slashdot. IIRC, slashdot has not given out this info in the past?


Oh yeah, sure. That would be a representative cross section.

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I viewed the html source: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10007001)

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Going Public... (2, Insightful)

peasleer (806038) | more than 9 years ago | (#10007004)

With Google getting it's ammended statements accepted, it means that Google stock will start being traded as early as tomorrow. They already dropped the initial IPO, and I'm sure they are being very cautious about causing any investor worries.

I bet that after their stock has had a couple months to stabilize, this will be addressed.

Of course (1)

Brandybuck (704397) | more than 9 years ago | (#10007006)

Of course they removed it. After last week's story suggesting more Linux users than Mac users, they didn't want to fan the flames by providing evidence [google.com] that the Mac is three times more popular than Linux.

Apple Uber Alles (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10007142)

Sig heil! Sig heil!

The entire web at their fingertips... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10007007)

...and they still don't know what irony is:

Searches for Tour de France far outnumbered searches for Wimbledon, but ironically, the Wimbledon winner was the more popular search among Google users.

That's not irony, that's just strange.

Google was the best "proof" that... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10007010)

Google Zeitgeist was the best proof that Macintosh was less than 3% of computers in use, and not 10% like Apple claims.

Apple used to make silly claims like their computers last longer in the field (i.e, less turnover) so while they may be a sliver of the pie, they're a bigger chunk of the machines being used. Google Zeitgeist squashed that silly claim.

So now that Zeitgeist is gone, maybe Apple will try that old lie once again!

Other sources of stats... (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10007022)

So, if Google Zeitgeist is not available, where can one get stats on OS and browser use?

Re:Other sources of stats... (1)

bunratty (545641) | more than 9 years ago | (#10007151)

OneStat [onestat.com] and TheCounter [thecounter.com] are two stats sources you can use. However, they track only browsers that hit sites with their counters on them. These tends to be smaller, less professional sites. In particular, if you check out the last 30 referring URLs to TheCounter [thecounter.com] you'll find that their service seems to be heavily used by gay porn sites. An unbiased sample, this is not!

Re:Other sources of stats... (1)

rd_syringe (793064) | more than 9 years ago | (#10007163)

The Canadian and other international versions of Google. Their Zeitgeist pages haven't changed (yet).

There were too much evidence (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10007034)

that BSD was dying ...

Zeitgeist? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10007035)

Schadenfreude !

Re:Zeitgeist? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10007093)

Weltschmertz!

Corporate world growing pains (2, Insightful)

whovian (107062) | more than 9 years ago | (#10007037)

Sadly, this removal had to happen given who Google's competitors are going to be in search space. No doubt they will continue to record the information, but it won't be public anymore.

Re:Corporate world growing pains (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10007205)

Sadly, this removal had to happen given who Google's competitors are going to be in search space.

That's backwards. The fact that any success by Microsoft in getting Windows users to use Microsoft's own search engine would look to the world (using Zeitgeist) like improving market share for other OS's, it should be in Google's best interests to keep showing this info. It's a disincentive for Microsoft to fight them.

This is a pity (1)

lakeland (218447) | more than 9 years ago | (#10007038)

Yes, google's stats are not totally accurate. For instance, my web site says that someone keeps browsing it using Opera on NetBSD, and as everyone knows, BSD is dying... so no

However, they're not going to be far off and most importantly they are unbiased. That makes them the best stats we have (had).

And Speeches! (1)

Milo of Kroton (780850) | more than 9 years ago | (#10007048)

Google also has remove the statistics language box. Why do they unwilling to show comparative data? Is like culture war seems, and eliminating. I am unsure still yet.

Bah! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10007059)

I think I speak for everyone when I say, thanks for ruining it for the rest of us, you insensitive clods.

Slashdot Effect #2 (2, Funny)

chill (34294) | more than 9 years ago | (#10007069)

Hmmm...now that this is on /., will the search for "Natalie Portman" stay on the Top 10 Declining Queries?

Inquiring minds want to know!

Just add a disclaimer? (1)

TheShadowHawk (789754) | more than 9 years ago | (#10007070)

Couldn't they just add a disclaimer or something so if anyone was taking the stats seriously they could be told: "Hey! These are just for fun. They are not scientific.. so fuck off!"

(well words to that effect anyway...)

Re:Just add a disclaimer? (1)

StalinsNotDead (764374) | more than 9 years ago | (#10007144)

You mean like this disclaimer?

This whole thing is wildly inaccurate. Rounding errors, ballot stuffers, dynamic IPs, firewalls. If you're using these numbers to do anything important, you're insane.

The best bit about all this.. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10007078)

Discovering that the most popular search in Russia was for wallpaper.

Ah, Good times. Good times.

It's time for the Google Daily Puzzler (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10007098)

Today's Google Puzzler asks you to discover what the following four items have in common:
  1. Laci Peterson
  2. Lori Hacking
  3. Nicole Simpson
  4. *BSD
Submit your response along with a stamped self-addressed envelope.
See contest rules for details. Void where prohibited.

Meanwhile, up north (4, Interesting)

Otter (3800) | more than 9 years ago | (#10007101)

Lesson learned from this morning's "Lunix's desktop share is triple MacOS's!" "No, dumbass, Google Zeitgeist has it at 1%! "No, you M$ astroturfer, that 51% for Windows XP is all Linux users with spoofed browser IDs!" argument:

Google has pulled OS stats from the US Zeitgeist but Canada still has them [google.ca] . And Lindsay Lohan has pulled ahead of Avril Lavigne.

That's the old one. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10007161)

It's from June. They appear to not be producing the July browser stats.

What really happened to Zeitgeist (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10007104)

I'm a google enginer in an unrelated department. I can shed light on what actully happened. While I could get fired, I want all Linux Zealots to take note.

Zeitgeist has freqently been used by pragmatists to show that Linux is not redy for the desktop based on the user agents presented during a search. If it were ready, more people would send user agent Mozila/Linux. 1% of all browsers is below the margin of error.

A common rasponse to Zeitgeist is that Linux users set there browser agent to someting more mainstream - like Internet Explorer - so that they can view sites that restrict based on user agent. We've done mesurements that show this is largly not the case.

We decided to turn it off because rather than focus on writing a good operating system, weenies would send porly spelt emails flaming us for previding insight into the Internet.

I requst that no one send any more Zeitgeist emails unless you can spell correctly and string a sentense together.

Thanks in advance.

But but... (1)

Blakey Rat (99501) | more than 9 years ago | (#10007134)

But but but... how am I going to know how many Amiga and BeOS users use Google!? I don't know if I can survive without knowing that...

Disclaimer... (1)

zxflash (773348) | more than 9 years ago | (#10007137)

I think a simple legal disclaimer would have been more appropriate. As some of us find the OS stats intesting and useful for comparison against our own server stats...

PostNuke is great (1)

hkb (777908) | more than 9 years ago | (#10007139)

Well the URL in the story is right... it's "postnuked", Slashdot style...
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