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Reiser4 Filesystem Released

timothy posted about 10 years ago | from the place-for-your-stuff dept.

Data Storage 637

trixie_czech writes "It's finally arrived. Go to namesys for reasons to use reiser4 as a filesystem and benchmarks. Go here to download. Enjoy!" The Namesys homepage in its current stage reminds me of a cross between The Secret Guide to Computers and the GNU Manifesto -- which is to say, there is a lot to read here, not just a bullet-pointed feature list.

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GNAA announces purchase of Namesys (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10052424)

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Re:GNAA announces purchase of Namesys (-1, Troll)

Aardpig (622459) | about 10 years ago | (#10052444)

Shouldn't that be GNU/GNAA?

mod parent up, niggers (-1, Flamebait)

Demented_D (795312) | about 10 years ago | (#10052461)

insightful

Re:mod parent up, niggers (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10052516)

definitely insightful

people need to stop going on fascist moderation sprees and actually read posts.

FRIST PSOT (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10052427)

so what was the article about?

Re:FRIST PSOT (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10052557)

It's about YOU FAILING IT! wtfpwnomglolz0r!

FAST! (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10052430)

reiserfs is the fastest FS of all , and im the fastest poster
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COOL! (0, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10052431)

need I say more? head for the mirrors!

reiser (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10052434)

I for one, welcome our new, fourth-generation, filesystem overlords.

Nah (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10052436)

Hopefully Slackware will jump to version 15 in a month, and I'll just reinstall my OS with this newfangled FS then.

ext3 to reiser4 ? (4, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10052440)

Will I be able to convert my exsisting ext3 fs to reiser4 fs withou having to reformat?

Re:ext3 to reiser4 ? (5, Informative)

Aardpig (622459) | about 10 years ago | (#10052467)

Will I be able to convert my exsisting ext3 fs to reiser4 fs withou having to reformat?

No, you will have to reformat. However, I recommend the upgrade; I've seen a number of studies showing that the performance of ext3 is awful compared to reiserfs. The only arguable advantage of ext3 is its compatibility with the baseline ext2.

Re:ext3 to reiser4 ? (1, Informative)

Coneasfast (690509) | about 10 years ago | (#10052503)

true that, also in ext3 there is no such thing as fast fsck after bad shutdown, i have tested myself and the improvement is little to none over ext2.

OTOH, reiserfs is very fast in this department

Re:ext3 to reiser4 ? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10052522)

Would it be possible to copy all data from the ext3 partiton to a network mountpoint(nfs, ftp, samba, etc...) format the drive to reiserfs, and then copy all the data back?

Re:ext3 to reiser4 ? (4, Insightful)

Aardpig (622459) | about 10 years ago | (#10052564)

Would it be possible to copy all data from the ext3 partiton to a network mountpoint(nfs, ftp, samba, etc...) format the drive to reiserfs, and then copy all the data back?

Yes! Some advice, however: if possible, make two separate copies of your data on different remote servers. Also, check the integrity of your copies using something like md5sum -- there's nothing worse than moving data to a new location and finding out it's corrupted only after you have deleted the originals.

Re:ext3 to reiser4 ? (-1, Troll)

Omnifarious (11933) | about 10 years ago | (#10052586)

MD5 has been proven to have collisions. Use sha1sum, not md5sum. IMHO, the md5sum tool should be deprecated and removed from all future Linux distributions.

Re:ext3 to reiser4 ? (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10052639)

>MD5 has been proven to have collisions.

Statistically speaking you are more likely to get malaria in Arizona than experience a random MD5 collision.

Re:ext3 to reiser4 ? (4, Funny)

gordyf (23004) | about 10 years ago | (#10052706)

Um, every hashing algorithm has collisions. There are more things to hash than there are resulting hashes.

Re:ext3 to reiser4 ? (4, Informative)

EMN13 (11493) | about 10 years ago | (#10052721)

All hash functions have collisions; that's not the point... It's extremely unlikely for one to occur non-maliciously. The MD5 collision found was only found after some trivial mathematics done as a matter of principle by your network card just to spite you (okay, just kidding).
It's still perfectly fine to use MD5 to check the validity of your files for bit-errors. Then again, so is CRC32.
I do have a question to anyone more knowledgeable in MD5's weakness: although MD5 can now be spoofed , it's not clear to me from reading the news - is it only directly applicable to messages of a certain type/length or to all messages?

Re:ext3 to reiser4 ? (4, Informative)

1000StonedMonkeys (593519) | about 10 years ago | (#10052742)

Sure MD5 has been proving to have collisions, but that really isn't news. All hash algorithms have collisions simply because of the nature of what they do.

Suppose you've got a 1K file. There are 2^1K possible values that file can assume. If you map those 2^1K values to the 2^160 values a SHA1 hash can assume, you have an average of 2^944 1K files that collide on any give SHA1 hash.

What differentiates hash algorithms is their ability to prevent people from generate a text that matches a given hash. It is currently not possible to do this for either MD5 or SHA1. It has been speculated that MD5 is nearing the end of it's life in this regard though. I don't follow the field closely enough to weigh in on the matter, but I can tell you that the only thing that finding an actual md5 collision will do is demonstrate what was rather easily proved in the previous paragraph.

As far as verifying files is concerned, the cryptographic strength of the hash algorithm is irrelevant. Unless you suspect someone will be tampering with your results, use whatever algorithm you can find a useful tool for, be it md5, sha1, or even crc32.

Re:ext3 to reiser4 ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10052582)

It would theoretically be possible to copy your old partition into a newly formatted partition, however you need to take into account that your init scripts would probably be confused, at the very least.

Re:ext3 to reiser4 ? (2, Informative)

shish (588640) | about 10 years ago | (#10052620)

in ext3 there is no such thing as fast fsck after bad shutdown

AFAIK, with journalling, there shouldn't be *any* fsck after a bad shutdown - with the few times I've pulled out power cords, I've never seen an ext3 fscking.

Then it seems that reiser spends about a second doing a fast fsck every boot, whether is was shut down cleanly or not...

Re:ext3 to reiser4 ? (2, Informative)

kormoc (122955) | about 10 years ago | (#10052667)

there is a simple fix up stage in your dmesg logs if you check after a powerplug yank.

It's true tho that a full *forced* fsck takes just as long on ext3 as it does on ext2...

Huh? (5, Informative)

Enahs (1606) | about 10 years ago | (#10052699)

Um, yes, there is an advantage. That's what the journal is for (duh.)

It astounds me that your post was marked as "Informative," because it's downright wrong.

Now, if you're talking about fsck after a certain number of boots, or a full fsck for whatever reason, then no, there's no advantage over ext2. It's ext2 + improvements + journal, for the most part.

For my money, using ext3 without btree hash dirs is stupid nowadays. Go back and bench reiser vs. ext3. ext3 is usually still slower, but the gap is narrower nowadays.

Re:ext3 to reiser4 ? (3, Insightful)

treat (84622) | about 10 years ago | (#10052547)

No, you will have to reformat. However, I recommend the upgrade; I've seen a number of studies showing that the performance of ext3 is awful compared to reiserfs. The only arguable advantage of ext3 is its compatibility with the baseline ext2.

ext3 has fewer bugs and has been through more testing. ext3 has a functioning fsck, reiserfs does not.

For most applications the reliability of the filesystem is far more important than the performance.

I'm definitely excited about reiser4 but I don't expect to be using it in production systems for years, unless I have an application that specifically requires it. If an fsck for reiser4 is never released, I might never use it.

Re:ext3 to reiser4 ? (4, Informative)

Aardpig (622459) | about 10 years ago | (#10052603)

ext3 has a functioning fsck, reiserfs does not.

I myself have never had any problems with reiserfsck -- what exactly is wrong with it?

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Re:ext3 to reiser4 ? (1, Flamebait)

timmyd (108567) | about 10 years ago | (#10052562)

The only arguable advantage of ext3 is its compatibility with the baseline ext2.

yeah, that, and *stability*. reiserfs has a noteable history of people losing their data because of filesystem problems.

Re:ext3 to reiser4 ? (5, Informative)

Aardpig (622459) | about 10 years ago | (#10052577)

yeah, that, and *stability*. reiserfs has a noteable history of people losing their data because of filesystem problems.

Not over the past couple of years -- the original corruption problems with reiserfs, although pretty severe, are well in the past now.

Re:ext3 to reiser4 ? (1)

Tyler Eaves (344284) | about 10 years ago | (#10052597)

Care to back that up? When ever someone mentions data loss from ReiserFS it's always "other people", "a friend", etc. I've been running ReiserFS on a number of machines for several years, never had the slightest problem with it.

Re:ext3 to reiser4 ? (1)

secolactico (519805) | about 10 years ago | (#10052745)

I've been running ReiserFS on a number of machines for several years, never had the slightest problem with it.

I'll say. In fact, my Suse install recommended Reiserfs, so I chose it. Haven't had any problem so far, and I've been merciless with that install (I was asked to evaluate a possible replacement for Windows for our company, so I'm trying to figure ways our users could break things up).

Re:ext3 to reiser4 ? (2, Informative)

menscher (597856) | about 10 years ago | (#10052756)

I gained a healthy fear of ReiserFS a while back when it had some issues with playing nice with NFS. Basically, if I created an arbitrary link in my home-dir, it would sometimes screw up and the destination of the link would be the contents of someone else's file. A file which I do not have permissions to read. Needless to say, it's not hard to hack up a while loop that creates links and then does the ls -l and saves the output for later perusal.

In any case, if you're looking for a really nice filesystem, use XFS. It was developed by professionals (SGI), is fast and stable, and is now released as open source.

I suppose it's just a coincidence that the reiser benchmarks page doesn't compare it to XFS... or maybe they were too embarassed to show the results?

Re:ext3 to reiser4 ? (1)

HermanAB (661181) | about 10 years ago | (#10052471)

No, sorry, but it is worth the change. It is like buying a new faster computer.

Re:ext3 to reiser4 ? (4, Insightful)

Dwonis (52652) | about 10 years ago | (#10052483)

I doubt it. In general, that's not necessarily possible (though you can get away with it in special cases). In any case, doing that without a UPS would probably be risky, since there would be a (probably very long) period of time where the filesystem is totally incomprehensible to BOTH filesystem drivers (old and new), and if the system dies during that time, say bye-bye to your data.

Re:ext3 to reiser4 ? (5, Informative)

David M. Andersen (711958) | about 10 years ago | (#10052486)

Possibly using convertfs [narod.ru] , but I have no idea if it works or not.

This page [optusnet.com.au] seems to have more info about it.

Re:ext3 to reiser4 ? (5, Informative)

EMN13 (11493) | about 10 years ago | (#10052624)

Nope convertfs won't work... From the horses mouth:

To upgrade from reiserfs V3 to V4, use tar, or sponsor us to
write a convertfs.

The lkml posting is probably cached all kinds of places, but kerneltrap [kerneltrap.org] also reproduces it in full.

Then again, reiserfs v4 and v3 have nothing to do with each other (unlike ext2 and ext3 for instance), so there's no quick fix possible probably.

On the other hand - reiser4 is completely untested (compared to reiser v3 and jfs, xfs, ext2, heck even the wine-dll emulation layered ntfs writing driver...), so do yourself a favour and don't do anything quite so crazy as not just using it for a production machine but also trying to convert an existing system to it with 'smart' tricks... Give it a little while... or make a lot of backups...

YES (-1, Troll)

Sexual Asspussy (453406) | about 10 years ago | (#10052489)

Actually I am not sure. But one thing I am sure of, based upon your chosen filesystems, is that you suck cock on a recreational basis. Linux, and its ext3 and reiser filesystems, is a sure sign that the computer operator has a penchant for installing security patches, dealing with problems in the software package system, and draining dicks wherever the opportunity arises.

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Windows port? (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10052441)

Will we ever have a Windows port of ResierFS or any alternative filesystems?

Re:Windows port? (5, Informative)

Coneasfast (690509) | about 10 years ago | (#10052481)

there is rfstool [p-nand-q.com] for reiserfs (afaik not v4)
and many [tuningsoft.com] for [swin.edu.au] ext2/3 [ashedel.chat.ru]

if OTOH, you are looking for a fully featured driver that can be used for production use, then i wouldn't count on it

Re:Windows port? (4, Informative)

Aardpig (622459) | about 10 years ago | (#10052507)

Will we ever have a Windows port of ResierFS or any alternative filesystems?

I'm not sure about ReiserFS, but there is already a program -- Explore2fs -- which lets you mess around with Ext2 and Ext3 partitions from Windows. Why you would want to do that is beyond me, but there you go.

Of course, you may be talking about a native Windows implementation of Ext2/3 and/or ReiserFS. Which is a totally different kettle of fish...

Re:Windows port? (3, Informative)

Daverd (641119) | about 10 years ago | (#10052621)

I'm not sure about ReiserFS, but there is already a program -- Explore2fs -- which lets you mess around with Ext2 and Ext3 partitions from Windows. Why you would want to do that is beyond me, but there you go.

I have a hard drive with Windows installed on it and a hard drive with Linux, and I use both OSes. Explore2fs is handy when I'm in Windows but I need to grab a file on my Linux drive.

Re:Windows port? (1)

Aardpig (622459) | about 10 years ago | (#10052659)

I have a hard drive with Windows installed on it and a hard drive with Linux, and I use both OSes. Explore2fs is handy when I'm in Windows but I need to grab a file on my Linux drive.

I usually make sure the file is in a FAT partition (yes, I know, eugh!) which both OS's can see. Not as convenient as your approach, but I don't want to give any opportunities for some piece of Windows malware to download itself and then trash the data in my Linux partitions.

Re:Windows port? (2, Insightful)

Stevyn (691306) | about 10 years ago | (#10052576)

You're talking about porting a file system assuming the operating system is unaware of it. We can look at the source code and linux and find that answer out, but with windows it's more difficult to tell. Since Microsoft seems to only support FAT, FAT32, and NTFS, I'm sure that's built into the kernel for speed. So unless you're going to make something that emulates NTFS on top of reiser, I doubt it would ever work. And if you're going to do that, what's the point at the end of the day?

For windows and linux compatibility, I always use FAT32. Linux isn't perfectly stable with NTFS and Microsoft only touches microsoft formats (hey, why not?).

Re:Windows port? (2, Informative)

j3110 (193209) | about 10 years ago | (#10052741)

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error (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10052446)

First click on Read More:
Nothing for you to see here, move along.

Second click or Read More, the page is screwed up.

Third click on Read More, I clicked Reply and typed this.

oooooo, dancing trees! (5, Funny)

fishbert42 (588754) | about 10 years ago | (#10052449)

... but can they tango?

Re:oooooo, dancing trees! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10052508)

but can they tango?

I hope that's some obscure reference. If not you're a moron.

Re:oooooo, dancing trees! (4, Informative)

peculiarmethod (301094) | about 10 years ago | (#10052540)

"* Reiser4 uses dancing trees, which obsolete the balanced tree algorithms used in databases (see farther down)"

that's what he meant.

oh, and whoever moderated offtopic didnt rtfa, either. damn, peeps.. what is wrong with this community these days?

pm

Re:oooooo, dancing trees! (4, Funny)

Jeremi (14640) | about 10 years ago | (#10052744)

I don't know about you, but for me the tfa isn't about algorithms at all, but rather is a very short piece regarding "server timeouts". :^P

Dupe? (-1, Troll)

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Re:Dupe? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10052474)

Mod parent up. Definitely a dupe.

I can see the headlines on Slate... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10052459)

ANOTHER linux server has been taken to its knees by an organization of users presumably using, yes, linux.

Only one question... (4, Interesting)

Pathway (2111) | about 10 years ago | (#10052462)

I only have one question (And I obviously have not researched an answer...):

Is there an easy and non-destructive way for me to migrate my ReiserFS version 3 to a version 4 Filesystem?

--Pathway

Two more questions.... (1)

macdaddy (38372) | about 10 years ago | (#10052550)

What does it take to patch NFS and quota tools to support Reiser...

...and what if any Linux distributions support it out of the box?

Re:Only one question... (5, Informative)

EMN13 (11493) | about 10 years ago | (#10052556)

Well, Mr. Reiser Dude suggests tar in his posting to lkml which can also be viewed on kerneltrap.org [kerneltrap.org] .

In other words,

no.

Re:Only one question... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10052711)

Problem: GNU tar doesn't back up ACLs or Extended Attributes.

Re:Only one question... (3, Insightful)

jrcamp (150032) | about 10 years ago | (#10052740)

Star [fokus.gmd.de] does though.

ATOMIC FILE-ING SYSTEM HERE I COME (1)

Icyfire0573 (719207) | about 10 years ago | (#10052463)

Just a quick hop skip and a jump from Reiser3 to reiser4 i hope,
Faster all around, modular & with atomic commits so you don't lose stuff in case of a power loss!!!

Re:ATOMIC FILE-ING SYSTEM HERE I COME (1)

dekeji (784080) | about 10 years ago | (#10052609)

Faster all around, modular & with atomic commits so you don't lose stuff in case of a power loss!!!

It's not that simple. Support for atomic operations in the file system eliminates a few sources of catastrophic data loss and it enables applications to avoid some other sources of data loss. But you will still lose unsaved data, you may still lose file system changes that haven't been committed, and, unless applications are changed, you will still end up with partially written files if the power fails while an application saves its data.

Re:ATOMIC FILE-ING SYSTEM HERE I COME (3, Informative)

ctr2sprt (574731) | about 10 years ago | (#10052610)

I'm sorry, but when you're talking about hard drives, there is no "atomic." It's as simple as a power failure while the disk drive is in the middle of writing a block (albeit a block sent atomically by the OS). Or as simple as a RAID controller with a write cache, or a hard drive with a write cache. Or hell, you could lose power while bits are flying across the controller cables.

And yeah, you'd better believe it happens. The BSDs use a similar approach called SoftUpdates (basically odrered writes). If power craps out in the middle of a write, you will have corruption. The main advantage is that, because writes aren't scattered all over, you only lose the file(s) you were most recently working on. This focuses the damage, it doesn't reduce it at all.

Re:ATOMIC FILE-ING SYSTEM HERE I COME (5, Informative)

Geiger581 (471105) | about 10 years ago | (#10052702)

Err, the point of atomicity w/ journaling in a heirarchical system is that if you lose power during a write, it is data to which no parent i-node or directory points. The data being created or altered is written first, then its updated directory, and then its parent directory on up to the root. Or you have one journal level, where the file is written to journal and then the journal entry is copied over the original location. If power dies when the journal is being written, data is lost but the FS maintains integrity, or if the power goes during the copy, the journal exist. Atomicity means that a transaction either happens all the way or not at all, and Reiser4 does guarantee this. In-flight data can be lost so long as partially written data does not leave the system or some other API-level atomic transaction partially completed.

Reiser4 may be great.... (3, Funny)

moosesocks (264553) | about 10 years ago | (#10052470)

but will it save Namesys from a slashdotting?

Seriously.... their server admins must be FSCKing angry.

Various filesystem compared (1)

a-z0-9 (733149) | about 10 years ago | (#10052473)

The latest issue of Linux Format has an article on the various filesystems. Have not read it yet though.

Been using Reiser4 on the / for 2 weeks now (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10052482)

Yea, I would definitely recommend it. It's extremely speedy.

Seinfeld3 FS (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10052484)

What aaare these fiiles? I mean they're ones and zeros written by magnets inside a spinning platter. Why aare they called files? It's like something I smuggle in a cake so I can use them to hack my way out of a prison. Why are they called files? What's up with that?

Re:Seinfeld3 FS (-1, Troll)

seringen (670743) | about 10 years ago | (#10052591)

it's not just ones and zeros. It's called a file system, because it's a system of filing data into ones and zeros, silly troll

MOD PARENT UP!!!!!!!! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10052701)

SEINFELD is absolutely one of the greatest sitcoms, if not THE very best ever.
I laugh out loud at every show I have seen. There may have been a couple with a little less humor than other episodes, but I would say the WORST Seinfeld is 10x better than any other sitcom episode that has ever aired. I mean the rest are okay.. kinda geared more towards chicks, especially since the male characters always seem for feminant than what they should be. As far as Seinfeld's "smirk" goes... even I smile at jokes I make up.. If I think it's funny too, then why not laugh. If I didn't think it was funny enough to laugh at.. I wouldn't crack a one-liner at all. I think Jerry is great! the other actors are truly some of the best comedic geniouses as well.
Point being,
MOD THE PARENT UP!!!!!

XFS (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10052487)

Where are the benchmarks comparing it to XFS?

Helpful Mirror (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10052493)

Reasons why Reiser4 is great for you:

* Reiser4 is the fastest filesystem, and here are the benchmarks.
* Reiser4 is an atomic filesystem, which means that your filesystem operations either entirely occur, or they entirely don't, and they don't corrupt due to half occuring. We do this without significant performance losses, because we invented algorithms to do it without copying the data twice.
* Reiser4 uses dancing trees, which obsolete the balanced tree algorithms used in databases (see farther down). This makes Reiser4 more space efficient than other filesystems because we squish small files together rather than wasting space due to block alignment like they do. It also means that Reiser4 scales better than any other filesystem. Do you want a million files in a directory, and want to create them fast? No problem.
* Reiser4 is based on plugins, which means that it will attract many outside contributors, and you'll be able to upgrade to their innovations without reformatting your disk. If you like to code, you'll really like plugins....
* Reiser4 is architected for military grade security. You'll find it is easy to audit the code, and that assertions guard the entrance to every function.

V3 of reiserfs is used as the default filesystem for SuSE, Lindows, FTOSX and Gentoo. We don't touch the V3 code except to fix a bug, and as a result we don't get bug reports for the current mainstream kernel version. It shipped before the other journaling filesystems for Linux, and is the most stable of them as a result of having been out the longest. We must caution that just as Linux 2.6 is not yet as stable as Linux 2.4, it will also be some substantial time before V4 is as stable as V3.

Re:Helpful Mirror (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10052762)

Novell's NSS that they are porting to Linux is supposed to blow away reiserfs

here is the text from namesys.com (-1, Redundant)

kkith (551310) | about 10 years ago | (#10052518)

Reasons why Reiser4 is great for you:

* Reiser4 is the fastest filesystem, and here are the benchmarks.
* Reiser4 is an atomic filesystem, which means that your filesystem operations either entirely occur, or they entirely don't, and they don't corrupt due to half occuring. We do this without significant performance losses, because we invented algorithms to do it without copying the data twice.
* Reiser4 uses dancing trees, which obsolete the balanced tree algorithms used in databases (see farther down). This makes Reiser4 more space efficient than other filesystems because we squish small files together rather than wasting space due to block alignment like they do. It also means that Reiser4 scales better than any other filesystem. Do you want a million files in a directory, and want to create them fast? No problem.
* Reiser4 is based on plugins, which means that it will attract many outside contributors, and you'll be able to upgrade to their innovations without reformatting your disk. If you like to code, you'll really like plugins....
* Reiser4 is architected for military grade security. You'll find it is easy to audit the code, and that assertions guard the entrance to every function.

V3 of reiserfs is used as the default filesystem for SuSE, Lindows, FTOSX and Gentoo. We don't touch the V3 code except to fix a bug, and as a result we don't get bug reports for the current mainstream kernel version. It shipped before the other journaling filesystems for Linux, and is the most stable of them as a result of having been out the longest. We must caution that just as Linux 2.6 is not yet as stable as Linux 2.4, it will also be some substantial time before V4 is as stable as V3.

KARMA WHORE!!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10052552)

Look at the post above this one by an AC. It's the exact same thing! This guy ripped it off.

Re:KARMA WHORE!!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10052567)

It was only minutes apart. It seems that they both submitted very close to each other.

Re:here is the text from namesys.com (4, Informative)

Tyir (622669) | about 10 years ago | (#10052633)

Actually, v3 is NOT the default filesystem of Gentoo, Gentoo has no default filesystem, you pick what you want. They give the easy option of ext2/3 xfs and reiser

Re:here is the text from namesys.com (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10052734)

Yes, but with the way they describe each filesystem, most people with no prior knowledge would probably go for Reiser since they make it sound 'best'.

Re:here is the text from namesys.com (2, Informative)

drinkypoo (153816) | about 10 years ago | (#10052755)

Actually they give the easy option of ext2/3, xfs, reiser, and jfs, and really it's no harder to use any other filesystem - though why would you want to? - that is fully supported by linux including support from some bootloader. Pick your filesystems, emerge the proper tools, make your filesystems, and keep going. Admittedly, they only document the steps for xfs, jfs, ext3, and reiser.

Oh My! (-1, Troll)

xeon4life (668430) | about 10 years ago | (#10052526)

This is awesome! I've been waiting for this for such a long time! I'll be the first to format my HDD!

Come, bask with me in Reiser4's infinite wisdom! Be stuck with awe at Reiser4's awesomeness! Feel the power of it's che flow through your very viens!

Mwahahahaha!

I know everyone's thinking it... (3, Interesting)

Elote (649512) | about 10 years ago | (#10052533)

IT'S ABOUT FREAKING TIME!!!!!

I did an informal comparisson of this fs against several others for one of my classes, and my results had it winning _hands down_.

But on a more serious note, I hope this release is stable. From lurking on their mailing list, it seems that it hasn't been too long since they were in bug-squashing mode.

Re:I know everyone's thinking it... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10052682)

What class was that for? Because I think I may have been in it. We had someone do one of their presentations on the ReiserFS 4 and ever since then I couldn't wait for it to come out

Re:I know everyone's thinking it... (1)

Elote (649512) | about 10 years ago | (#10052749)

Nope, this was a "research paper" for my operating systems class, never presented it to the class except for bragging on the results.

Re:I know everyone's thinking it... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10052739)

If you would have read the artice you would have seen this.

"We must caution that just as Linux 2.6 is not yet as stable as Linux 2.4, it will also be some substantial time before V4 is as stable as V3."

Who's got the balls... (4, Interesting)

Stevyn (691306) | about 10 years ago | (#10052543)

...to use it for a while. I'm sure it's been tested very extensively, but there are always bugs initially in any major release like this. I'm sure nobody running a server will touch this for a while even with the benchmarks.

I'm not trying to spread FUD on reiser at all, I run reiser 3 and I've never had any problems. I'm just raising the question of how long does it take until people will put it in production servers and their main desktops?

Anyone who maintains servers care to shed some light on this?

Re:Who's got the balls... (1)

ianster (605032) | about 10 years ago | (#10052581)

I might put it on some testing servers immediately and see how it goes. Production use would follow 3 - 6 months after that, depending on how many bugs are found and versions released until then. I run a pretty small shop of 30 servers, and I'm probably closer to the bleeding edge than most larger companies.

Re:Who's got the balls... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10052666)

I'd definitly start running it on testing servers and see how it goes, but I'd probably wait a year or so for production depending on how it goes.

Re:Who's got the balls... (5, Informative)

dtfinch (661405) | about 10 years ago | (#10052753)

When deciding which filesystem would be best for our first critical samba file servers, this post and other scattered rumors of unreliability scared us away from reiser3 for the time being:

http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2004-Ju ly/msg00418.html [redhat.com]

The date of the post caught my eye. The test was very recent. Ext3 won in this particular case, by a longshot, leading a Red Hat employee to respond "Your investigation proves that we default to the right mode ;)".

I haven't seen ext3 (ordered) lose in any reliability benchmarks versus jfs, xfs, or reiserfs, though it's hard to find many such benchmarks.

so basically (-1, Troll)

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What's with that link? (3, Funny)

Chordonblue (585047) | about 10 years ago | (#10052553)

There doesn't seem to be a Windows version of Reiser on that li....

Oh...

Yea that homepage looks like alot of others (3, Funny)

TigerTime (626140) | about 10 years ago | (#10052587)

"The Namesys homepage in its current stage is reminds me of a cross between The Secret Guide to Computers and the GNU Manifesto " Yea, i see "This page cannot be found" on alot of websites

Stability (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10052595)

I remember reading something a while back about how ReiserFS would occasionally barf and corrupt data... And that the Dev response was something to the effect of 'so what?'.

How stable in this new version in terms of data loss? Is this something that's optimized to run on a RAID array--with, say mirroring--that gets it's speed from dangerous shortcuts that are only acceptable in a non-single-disk environment?

Can reiser4 withstand the slashdot effect? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10052596)

www.namesys.com is responding pretty slowly already.

Is that due to a bottleneck in the filesystem under heavy load? Hope they're running reiser4 :-)

His thoughts on NTFS... (5, Interesting)

blackketter (72157) | about 10 years ago | (#10052599)

IF you can get to the site, you'll find this juicy reference at the end:

[NTFS]

"Inside the Windows NT File System" the book is written by Helen Custer, NTFS is architected by Tom Miller with contributions by Gary Kimura, Brian Andrew, and David Goebel, Microsoft Press, 1994, an easy to read little book, they fundamentally disagree with me on adding serialization of I/O not requested by the application programmer, and I note that the performance penalty they pay for their decision is high, especially compared with ext2fs. Their FS design is perhaps optimal for floppies and other hardware eject media beyond OS control. A less serialized higher performance log structured architecture is described in [Rosenblum and Ousterhout]. That said, Microsoft is to be commended for recognizing the importance of attempting to optimize for small files, and leading the OS designer effort to integrate small objects into the file name space. This book is notable for not referencing the work of persons not working for Microsoft, or providing any form of proper attribution to previous authors such as [Rosenblum and Ousterhout]. Though perhaps they really didn't read any of the literature and it explains why theirs is the worst performing filesystem in the industry....

Regarding their homepage's looks, (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10052602)

They don't care,
they don't have to,
they are the "ReiserFS" company!!!

Well? (2, Funny)

iamdrscience (541136) | about 10 years ago | (#10052618)

Somebody post a bulleted list of featuress already! I'm a busy man, I don't have time to read anything longer than two and a half pages of double-spaced 12pt Courier, and that's only for the executive summary of my encyclopedia A-L anyways.

Moron (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10052637)

Another shlub who doesn't know the difference between racism and unemployment. They're two very different words, look them up. If all the white people in Idaho decided to move to my city and work for 10 cents an hour, I'd be equally pissed about it. And so would you. So what, I'd be "racist" against my own race? Get a clue idiot. Keep your sig though, I like my morons to wear signs.

Sweet! (3, Insightful)

chizu (669687) | about 10 years ago | (#10052644)

Now when will we see it in the vanilla kernel?

First Post (2, Funny)

HermanAB (661181) | about 10 years ago | (#10052649)

Damn ext3...

No compelling reason to upgrade (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10052673)

I'm going to stick w/ Emacs for my filesystem thank you.

adoption of new features will be an uphill battle (2, Interesting)

dekeji (784080) | about 10 years ago | (#10052697)

ReiserFS is great, and this seems like a tasteful way of implementing some of the complex things people seem to want to do with file systems.

But I would feel uncomfortable relying on any of these features right now because any software that does would fail with any other file system. ReiserFS is free software, but you still end up needing to run software on other file systems in many cases.

I think for these features to become widely adopted, we need some kind of library-based emulation, something that uses ReiserFS if it runs on it and otherwise emulates ReiserFS features like files-as-directories in user mode on top of existing file systems (by using funny file names, etc., similar to UMSDOS).

what are you talking about? (1)

dougnaka (631080) | about 10 years ago | (#10052754)

it sounds like you're referring to reiserfs as not compatible with programs? The only types of programs that wouldn't be compatible with reiser4 would be things like fsck that are designed for a file system.

You install reiser4 in your kernel, and start making file systems. You put programs on them and they work the same as they would on ext2/3/xfs/reiser3, except likely faster, and with atomic safety.

MANIFESTO (2, Funny)

YetAnotherName (168064) | about 10 years ago | (#10052747)

Yes, that certainly comes across more like a manifesto than a detailed exposition of software architecture. I have to admit, reading through it, my KOOK Alert was almost reaching critical stages ... if they only included SOME ALL CAPS SECTIONS as well as a reference to Einstein, who was on the brink of making a similar discovery, but was forced to suppress it DUE TO GOVERNMENT INTERVENTION, then the KOOK alarms would be blaring and I'd've discounted the entire thing.

Now, all I'm interested in doing is exploring the potential of doing everything in the "manifesto" literary style. My next letter to the editor? Manifesto. My thank-you note to grandma? Manifesto. My resume? Manifesto. My next Slashdot posting? Manifesto.

Oh yes ... they never trusted me at the academy ... but they'll learn the hard way ... mwuahaha, er ... ha.
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