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Cherry Announces Linux keyboard

CmdrTaco posted about 10 years ago | from the didn't-someone-do-this-already dept.

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Errtu76 writes "ZDnet says Cherry has announced a specially designed Linux keyboard that will be available in the UK, Ireland and Germany later this year. The Cherry CyMotion Master Linux keyboard has the Linux penguin logo, Tux, instead of the Windows start key and features 29 hot keys. The hot keys are configured for the Linux operating system and desktop applications, simplifying actions such as cutting, copying and pasting text, and moving between Web pages. PCworld has a little more info on the keyboard."

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Forget the Windows/Tux key! Cater to everyone! (1, Funny)

garcia (6573) | about 10 years ago | (#10056268)

"We want to first see if the product is successful. The Windows market is bigger, but other manufacturers have yet to focus on the Linux market."

See their problem is that they are catering to two separate markets. I say they cater to everyone. Make the "Windows key" a changeable screen (LCD?) and you can put whatever you want there!

In the mood to smash the shit out of Darl's face? Want to give Bill Gates what he deserves? Want to break a window? Didn't get that raise - picture of your PHB! Wife fucking a nerdy guy than you - picture of nerd #2 hanging from his SCSI cable!

I can finally get rid of that nasty sand-filled balloon to relieve stress! *hugs Darl key*

Re:Forget the Windows/Tux key! Cater to everyone! (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10056300)

If the wife is "fucking a nerdier guy than you," I'd hope that you'd do more than change the appearance of the windows key...

Re:Forget the Windows/Tux key! Cater to everyone! (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10056392)

Shut up.

Re:Forget the Windows/Tux key! Cater to everyone! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10056421)

Sorry he owns you.

Re:Forget the Windows/Tux key! Cater to everyone! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10056513)

I'm browsing at default level, and I see this.

Why? Because somebody modded it +1, Insightful. :-)

If more mods had enough sense to mod up interesting posts like this one, /. would be a better place.

Re:Forget the Windows/Tux key! Cater to everyone! (1, Insightful)

Fished (574624) | about 10 years ago | (#10056518)

Wife fucking a nerdy guy than you - picture of nerd #2 hanging from his SCSI cable!
You have some serious issues, don't you?

Re:Forget the Windows/Tux key! Cater to everyone! (1)

squiggleslash (241428) | about 10 years ago | (#10056521)

Making it changable would help Mac users too, as the "Windows" key on Mac systems acts as the "command" key.

Which is actually annoying if you're using a keyboard without a Windows key. I had to reprogram Darwin to get the Left-Alt to work the same way (and have to keep updating it every time I get a point-point release of OS X in a Software Update.)

I have to start using (1)

Alien54 (180860) | about 10 years ago | (#10056566)

my lockout utility [thomer.com] just a wee bit more often.

No, really.

My favorite feature (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10056270)

Is that it doesn't work with the Windows keyboard driver, so there's no way you can use Windows with it! Great for family and friends you're trying to get to use linux.

Re:My favorite feature (1)

RupW (515653) | about 10 years ago | (#10056360)

Is that it doesn't work with the Windows keyboard driver,

Huh? I've read both articles and I didn't see that?

In any case, there's keyboard driver source in the Windows DDK - it wouldn't be hard to write one that does work.

frist post (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10056273)

1st!

no. 3rd. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10056310)

i fail it... :(

Hotkey suggestion (5, Funny)

TimeTrav (460837) | about 10 years ago | (#10056278)

Is there a hotkey for First Post?

Re:Hotkey suggestion (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10056334)

Ask garcia [slashdot.org] , he obviously has one.

Re:Hotkey suggestion (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10056341)

You fail, but funny nonetheless

Re:Hotkey suggestion (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10056397)

Hey Everyone! why is is that on slashdot, you get modded -1 for even mentioning 'first post'...the phrase itself isn't offtopic at all. Why would the parent be modded offtopic? it seems pretty on topic to me anyways, and this post will probably get modded offtopic too, but whatever, baised modding system.

the real question... (-1, Redundant)

DrCash (800431) | about 10 years ago | (#10056283)

The real important question about this keyboard is:



will it have an ANY key?


so... (0)

WormholeFiend (674934) | about 10 years ago | (#10056284)

when do I get my OS/2 Warp keyboard with the special OS/2 key to replace the windows one?

Pigs Fly, Hell Frozen (1)

Morphix84 (797143) | about 10 years ago | (#10056342)

and SCO Wins a Lawsuit against IBM

Hot Keys (5, Insightful)

Morphix84 (797143) | about 10 years ago | (#10056302)

Is it just me, or are Hot Keys for thinks like Copying and Pasting really over rated, Ctrl-C, Ctrl-X, etc. (And the Linux Equivilants, i'm a Windows user) are subconcious to me at this point, rather than rooting around for some key at the top of the keyboard.

Re:Hot Keys (2, Interesting)

tolan-b (230077) | about 10 years ago | (#10056402)

Completely agree. Although I quite like volume keys.

Ctrl-c/v/x work in Linux too. Well in Gnome at least, and KDE iirc.

Re:Hot Keys (2, Interesting)

Threni (635302) | about 10 years ago | (#10056492)

> Although I quite like volume keys.

And while we're designing control surfaces, I'd like:

Cd-player interface (stop, play, next/prev track etc etc).
make that a dvd/cd player interface
a rotary pot (sliders haven't been used on real hardware for 20 years!)

I mean, come on - Fisher Price has been making this stuff for 30 years!

Re:Hot Keys (1)

KlaymenDK (713149) | about 10 years ago | (#10056457)

You betcha they're useless -- in that function. But as long as they're reprogrammable it okay, then we just get a few extra configurable keys -- and they are mighty useful. /me hits post-on-Slashdot key.

Re:Hot Keys (4, Funny)

TykeClone (668449) | about 10 years ago | (#10056490)

They need the 29 other keys for emacs.

Replace the Windows key? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Conrad (600139) | about 10 years ago | (#10056304)

Kummer has already found some users keen to simply replace the Windows start key with Tux.

Oh come on. That's just petty, isn't it?

Re:Replace the Windows key? (2, Interesting)

empaler (130732) | about 10 years ago | (#10056364)

Don't be surprised if keyboard manufactorers have to pay a small fee per shipped unit with the windows key... ... which means, that buying a keyboard with a windows-key is just another way of supporting MS.

Petty? Yeah. But Microsoft can be real bastards.

An idea... (2, Interesting)

ArbiterOne (715233) | about 10 years ago | (#10056309)

Why don't they also include PDF/OO.org copies of the Linux User Guide (mentioned on /. recently and found at http://www.iosn.net/training/end-user-manual/ [iosn.net] ) in order to create a real "Linux starter kit"?

30 pounds (about 50 bucks American) (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10056312)

At that price, and in such small production numbers, I have a feeling that the workmanship is shoddy and these 'enhancements' are barely workable on any Linux system but SuSE.

Does the Windows key really piss you off *that much*?

Re:30 pounds (about 50 bucks American) (1, Funny)

Skye16 (685048) | about 10 years ago | (#10056419)

Yes, but for entirely different reasons. It really sucks when you're playing a video game and accidentally tap the windows key. Especially when something is trying to bite your knee caps off.

:(

Re:30 pounds (about 50 bucks American) (3, Informative)

joggle (594025) | about 10 years ago | (#10056515)

There's a registry entry you can alter to disable the key. If you google 'disable windows key' you'll probably find it.

Re:30 pounds (about 50 bucks American) (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10056422)

Yes.

Re:30 pounds (about 50 bucks American) (5, Funny)

DevolvingSpud (774770) | about 10 years ago | (#10056531)

> Does the Windows key really piss you off *that much*?

You're not from around here, are you?

The Year 2000 Returns? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10056316)

I'd have to dig out some old magazines, but I'm positive there was a company that used to sell keyboards with a Tux-key instead of the Windows key. Wish I could remember the name though.

Re:The Year 2000 Returns? (2, Informative)

aeakett (561176) | about 10 years ago | (#10056377)

You're talking about this one [linux-mag.com] perhaps?

Re:The Year 2000 Returns? (1)

PowerBert (265553) | about 10 years ago | (#10056564)

What is this one [tastaturen.com] ???
http://www.tastaturen.com/TuxBoard

cutting/copying/pasteing text is easier... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10056320)

...but can you cut/copy/paste anything else on Linux. Say, images?

CTRL key placement (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10056322)

Well, they might as well move it to the correct place if they are doing a Linux keyboard!

Re:CTRL key placement (0)

r00t (33219) | about 10 years ago | (#10056542)

Lower-left is great on a keyboard that's split
like the Microsoft Natural Keyboard. You don't
really have to buy from Microsoft even; I'm using
a non-name Macintosh keyboard. Of course, being a
Macintosh keyboard, it doesn't have a Windows key.

As every typist knows, the key to the left of
the 'A' is supposed to be a tab key.

Picture (5, Informative)

skoch (238567) | about 10 years ago | (#10056324)

Was this the only article without a picture?

http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS8233268776.ht ml

Re:Picture...of something else (2, Informative)

Onimaru (773331) | about 10 years ago | (#10056448)

Read the article carefully. That's a picture of the solar powered widget, not the upcoming widget. But here's hoping they look similar...that thing's cool.

hmmm.... (1)

reptilezero (629076) | about 10 years ago | (#10056330)

i thought we weren't linking to zdnet anymore. ah well. don't really think the linux market is big enough to support a specialized keyboard either. sure it's nice, but how many people that use linux are going to shell out the dough for a new keyboard. i would think the majority of linux users are just running servers anyway, and really don't need a new keyboard with special functions on it...

some folks might (1)

zogger (617870) | about 10 years ago | (#10056503)

I *might* if it was a US layout and it was illuminated. but not at 100 clams or anything, even 50 is pushing it for a keyboard. For 50$ you can get a decent used PII complete bundle some places. I just scrounge IBM clickers whenever I find them now. Always liked closer to a mechanical typewriter-feel keyboard, it's what I learned on. I still suck at typing, but that's beside the point, still like the feel. Can't stand mushy squishy feeling keyboards. Gives me the buckwheats and stuff.

Anyway, it's still nice to see more linux centric devices hit the market, it will only get better as time goes on.

Re:hmmm.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10056574)

they make keyboards for dvorak people (dispite the qwerty marketshare)

now how long till i can get a linux-dvorak keyboard.

or perhaps a bsd/linux/windows/os2/beos-dvorak keyboard?

come on folks! its just a matter of making an extra button with a different picture on it. just make them available on request + shipping.

Cut, Copy, and Paste keys (4, Funny)

rumblin'rabbit (711865) | about 10 years ago | (#10056333)

Yeeesssss. It's the only damn thing I really want from a keyboard. Oh, and an Undo key. Oh yeah, and a foot pedal controlling the capitalization. And get rid of the Alt key. And the Escape, while your at it.

$50 for a keyboard (1)

Gravis88 (765441) | about 10 years ago | (#10056384)

Great product but I don't see the company selling much for $50 keyboard that works ONLY with Linux. ;)

Use this (2, Interesting)

kahei (466208) | about 10 years ago | (#10056442)


I realize I always plug these when an article on keyboards comes up, but... you can have what you want (subject to you writing a few macros for some keys) with one of these:

Kinesis [kinesis-ergo.com]

Customizable... programmable... pedals... and an exciting chunky shape! I use the pedals for ctrl and programming punctuation, though, not caps.

You only need the foot pedals... (5, Funny)

TheHonestTruth (759975) | about 10 years ago | (#10056563)

You only need the foot pedals if you use emacs. Shift-Meta-Control-ChickenBone, Shift-Meta-Control-CircleOfBlood-Chanting-S to save a file. (The foot pedals key in the Shift-Meta) Simple.

-truth

It is sad (1)

pHatidic (163975) | about 10 years ago | (#10056352)

That people both make and buy shit like this while the only maker of good dvorak keyboards (dvortyboards.com is the only I know of at least) can't even sell enough to stay in business. I went to comp USA the other day and saw a Doom 3 keyboard. What the hell.

Here is a question for you. Have you ever gone to a store and seen a product and wondered if that store has ever sold one of those?

Re:It is sad (2, Insightful)

Alkivar (25833) | about 10 years ago | (#10056430)

don't you think perhaps it has more to do with the 100$ price tag?

I mean with most keyboards having pop removeable keys its cheaper to buy a cheap 20$ keyboard and reclick them into the dvorak layout.

Re:It is sad (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10056441)

"I went to comp USA the other day and saw a Doom 3 keyboard. What the hell."

It actually is a "gamming keyboard" that uses template overlays that are taylored to each game. Someone should do the same for Linux and Windows keyboards and offer a bunch of templates rather than fixed hardware. I mean what about dualbooters and this keyboard?

Re:It is sad (1)

Paulrothrock (685079) | about 10 years ago | (#10056460)

I didn't believe Windows existed until my dad brought a PC home. I had nightmares for a week.

IBM Model M Keyboard (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10056517)

The IBM model M keyboard is all you need when it comes to DVORAK. The keys are all identically shaped and therefore moveable from position to position. Plus the keyboard doubles as a great machine gun impersonator. Rat, tat, tat...

Re:It is sad (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10056527)

Could it be *gasp* market demand? I bet there are a lot more people who want a gaming keyboard rather than a DVORAK one. If it's annoying you that much, why not just rip out the keys and switch them yourself?

Buy a keyboard... (5, Funny)

billysara (264) | about 10 years ago | (#10056353)

... get a free OS?

"In addition, the keyboard comes with a CD including a special edition of SuSE Linux 9.1 from Novell"...

How long till we get special versions of RedHat or SuSE free with our breakfast cerial..... :-)

Re:Buy a keyboard... (4, Funny)

WormholeFiend (674934) | about 10 years ago | (#10056465)

well, Captain Crunch cereal once came with a useful phreaking tool...

Boring (1)

adamh526 (725423) | about 10 years ago | (#10056356)

I think most Linux users (espeically here) know well enough how to get their Windows keys and hot keys to do just about whatever they want.

"Linux users don't want to have a Windows button. Three years ago we had a request from a customer to produce specially made keyboards which replaced the Windows logo with Tux, but had absolutely no extended functionality," he said.

I guess that's what you're really paying for.

Sigh...It Must Be Mine. (1)

Onimaru (773331) | about 10 years ago | (#10056357)

Well, it must be mine of course, but yawn. Why are they going to so much trouble? Anyone who wants linux enough to buy swag for it doesn't need a bundled CD to get it. And anyone who cares enough to find custom keyboards doesn't need your buggy and probably non-GPL'ed software to remap keys...it's something already included in the kernel.

But, I could be wrong. It could be that the only thing holding my grandmother back from linux on the desktop is that her keyboard is only Windows compatible.

Old news... (almost a dup) (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10056359)

I sit here typing on a Linux Keyboard (a Linux Cool Keyboard, to be precise). No hardware hotkeys, but any linux user worth his/her salt can program their own.

I like Linux but Microsoft keyboards are nice (1)

kgroombr (608645) | about 10 years ago | (#10056362)

Although the only OS loaded on my computer is Linux (of the Gentoo flavor), I can't find a keyboard more comfortable than the Microsoft Natural keyboard. Just puting tux keys in the place of the MS logo isn't going to make me buy a keyboard.

here is a hint to those keyboard makers : (3, Insightful)

kuiken (115647) | about 10 years ago | (#10056366)

why dont you make a keyboard, with like all the normal keys and none of that stupiod windows key crap, let alone 50 other buttons to open my mail client, browser and 48 other apps i dont even use.

I want an old school 101 or 102 keys keyboard

Re:here is a hint to those keyboard makers : (1)

wiredog (43288) | about 10 years ago | (#10056483)

How about this [linuxgazette.com] ?

Re:here is a hint to those keyboard makers : (1)

aralin (107264) | about 10 years ago | (#10056487)

I second that!

All these annoying windows keys between my ALT and CTRL disturb me while playing deathmatch in DOOM II. Oh and when we are at it. Make the keys independent, I mean, am I asking too much if I am holding SHIFT, ALT KEY-DOWN, KEY-LEFT to be able to shoot with CTRL, damnit?

Bah, they have no idea how keyboard should be like...

Re:here is a hint to those keyboard makers : (3, Funny)

ameoba (173803) | about 10 years ago | (#10056549)

How do you think I feel? I have fire bound to CTRL, jump on ALT and look down on DEL.

Rocket-jumping hurts.

Re:here is a hint to those keyboard makers : (1)

Rikus (765448) | about 10 years ago | (#10056533)

I currently have a pair of IBM Model M keyboards at my computer table, and they're basically what you said: ordinary keyboards, but without Windows keys... oh, and they're huge and clicky. :)

Anyway, there are lots of other, more normal keyboards without Windows keys. I'm looking at a "Compaq"-labelled one right now.

US Price for a UK Keyboard? (1)

cs02rm0 (654673) | about 10 years ago | (#10056368)

The entire package will retail for $49. Initially, Cherry will market the products in Germany, Austria, Switzerland, and the U.K. before expanding into other European countries, according to Vogl. He was unable to say when the product will be available in the U.S. And yet they offer the price in dollars.

If this turns out to be a crappy keyboard that Linux users don't want... are they going to conclude that there's no Linux user market again? :o(

Now every os has a keyboard... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10056376)

Cool! Now every operating system has it's own keyboard! But what's the big difference? I know tux is cute and all, but why buy a new expensive keyboard just to have a few free hotkeys and a CD of SuSE Linux which you can get for free online?

mmm, cherry keyboards! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10056378)

I like cherries... They taste nice and sweet and they make great keyboards too. Damn things are sturdy enough to survive ME, which is a pretty amazing feat. I'm convinced that after WW3 there will be only cockroaches and Cherry keyboards!

Auto-sense the OS? (3, Interesting)

grunt107 (739510) | about 10 years ago | (#10056387)

Why not ship the keyboard with software that detects the OS, and configures 'hot' keys based on said OS?

AFA the 'Windows' key, charge a few pennies more and ship w/iconic keys for all 'major' OS-es.

Or ship with spiffy EOTD (emoticon of the day) that the fashionistas can buy and traded (Pokeyboardmon).

Re:Auto-sense the OS? (1)

pentalive (449155) | about 10 years ago | (#10056578)

Even better...

If you can do without the actual pressing of plastic bits and springs. The keyboard is a small full color LCD screen that
presents any set of keys needed at that moment. The keyboard
becomes part of the User Interface. The same keyboard could display a Divorak, QWERTY, Chineese, Special purpose ( when displaying a menu, only the keys that respond to the menu show,the rest are hidden or dimmed)

A first time for everything... (1)

Vthornheart (745224) | about 10 years ago | (#10056403)

I wonder if this is the first case of recieving a pack-in operating system with the purchase of a keyboard? Seems kind of backward if you ask me... but I guess stranger things have happened. ;)

use a sticker..... (1)

JarrodMJ (740789) | about 10 years ago | (#10056405)

way cheaper to make a Tux sticker and put it on your keyboard and map your own keys.....or just use a ThinkPad like I do--no Windows key to look at.

That sucks (1, Redundant)

Exmet Paff Daxx (535601) | about 10 years ago | (#10056407)

Don't people understand that the major innovation of the Internet was interoperability? Web developers with their Java and Flash and "Designed for MSIE 600x800 with JVM 1.4.2ab only" web sites misssed the entire feat of the Internet: a globally compatible worldwide network. Then Microsoft took this mindset to the next level by trying to put a "Windows key" on the keyboard, as if putting proprietary crap in a universal Human-Computer interface was somehow a good idea. It was a horrible idea when Macintosh did it, and it's a horrible idea now. People aren't supposed to have to re-learn interfaces: that's the whole point! That's why the Internet was successful in the first place!

The Linux community is supposed to be the people who "get it". We're supposed to be the leaders. And now we're putting out a dedicated keyboard for an Operating System that doesn't even have a standardized distribution?

I suppose this is to be expected, given as we have spent the last eight years failing to even standardize on a single window manager.

Let's pray for a G80 (3, Interesting)

hhnerkopfabbeisser (645832) | about 10 years ago | (#10056408)

Cherry's G80 series of keyboards is considered by many (including me) to provide the best tactile expierience since the old IBM-keyboards with click, but without the weight and noise.

All other cherries I ever tried to type (G81 and G83) gave me the expierience that they wanted to break my fingers...

Old news? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10056426)

I saw this about 2 weeks ago...

Re:Old news? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10056455)

You should have submitted it then. Do you have any idea how this place works???

Any key? (4, Funny)

whovian (107062) | about 10 years ago | (#10056431)

Will there be an Any key?

Re:Any key? (1)

Saluton_Mondo (728648) | about 10 years ago | (#10056452)


...and will I be able to order a tab?

ohh, and they make solar powered wireless ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10056433)

ohh, and they make solar powered wireless keyboards and mice.

is that sorta like the solar powered recharge craddle for Palm Vs? (foot note in manual for the pda: "don't leave in direct sunlight")

I prefer... (1)

infinite9 (319274) | about 10 years ago | (#10056439)

I prefer this one [yahoo.com] .

Too bad (3, Informative)

iamdrscience (541136) | about 10 years ago | (#10056450)

Amazingly enough, the windows key works just fine in linux. It's not essential at all that it have a picture of tux on it.

On my purchase list for sure! (2, Interesting)

gilesjuk (604902) | about 10 years ago | (#10056462)

However I don't see why keyboards can't just come with different caps that you press onto the keyboard. Customise those Windows and function keys.

Hell, we could even have funny ones like an "any" key :D

why? (1)

RyLaN (608672) | about 10 years ago | (#10056468)

The hot keys are configured for the Linux operating system and desktop applications, simplifying actions such as cutting, copying and pasting text, and moving between Web pages...

I'm not really sure what the appeal is, or why anyone would bother. I already have a "Linux Branded" keyboard from Penguin Computing, and the *only* difference is a nifty penguin on the windows key. I wouldn't have gone out and bought the keyboard, it looks and feels identical to the "Windows" keyboard I had before it.

More to the point, why on earth would a Linux user need a copy + paste button? Copy = drag over the words, paste = middle click. Also, forward and back are the simplest mouse gestures in both Konqueror and Firefox, both just a click and then drag right or left. It looks like Cherry didn't investigate their target very well, before coming up with this idea.

I'm certainly all for branded stuff, but when the item is as generic as a ps2/usb keyboard, whats the point? The last thing that the manufacturer needs is more "tested on xx platform" hardware that only a portion of the computer users would even think about buying. (Yes, LITE-ON, I'm talking to you! WinXP CD-RWs??!)

Silkscreening is for girls... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10056470)

Who needs letters on their keyboard? Pah! Truw Linuc nerds don't need legemds on our keybosrds [hooleon.com] ,,,

I never meta key I didn't like (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10056480)

What exactly is this "Windows" key they speak of? Is that what they call it when they put that funny looking icon on the meta key?

(They keyboard I want...get rid of any logo on that key and label it "meta". And dump the caps-lock too. Put control there instead. I despise caps-lock...)

These are already for sale, it would appear... (1)

Tactical Skyrider (249625) | about 10 years ago | (#10056484)

How's this for ironic...

i opened the article. there was an advertisement showing a man wearing a tie with tux on it. i thought "cool" and went googling for tux ties. i found a site selling them. then as i was looking through their selection of stuff, there was the very same keyboard for sale! cha-ching!

so here's a link:

http://www.getdigital.de/index/0x55/lng/2 [getdigital.de]

And if that keyboard doesn't work out... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10056491)

... you could always get a Doom3 Z-board [ideazon.com] .

Which leaves me in a dilemma - which keyboard do I use to play Doom3 on Linux?

Is this the one? (1)

brejc8 (223089) | about 10 years ago | (#10056493)

Is this [tastaturen.com] the keyboard? because it doesnt seem to have extra keys. But it does have the tux logo and its from cherry.

Hot Keys! (3, Funny)

therealfitzman (807672) | about 10 years ago | (#10056496)

I hope the hot keys are mapped to usefull functions such as:


tux key + M + S = email Bill Gates hate mail

So... (1)

Yer Mom (78107) | about 10 years ago | (#10056498)

Does it have CTRL next to A and Craps Lock relegated to the corner, where it belongs?

That would definitely make prolonged Emacs sessions a bit more comfortable...

(I suppose a cokebottle key would be out of the question :)

Everybody run for the hills! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10056499)

Warning: do not buy this: It's a Linux-only keyboard! Buying it will lock you into that platform for the lifetime of your keyboard! OS lock-in is eviiiiiiiiiiiil!!!!!!!!!11one

Generic (1)

DreadSpoon (653424) | about 10 years ago | (#10056508)

Why not just get rid of the Windows logo on the key and put in something generic and OS neutral?

And no, I don't mean the same thing as these ridiculous "LCD key" or "changeable key" posts. I mean just put a picture of a window or something on there. That'll fit in fine for Windows and for Linux and for any other OS. (That key is often used on UNIX machines for window manager control these days - so a window is still a good icon to put on the key.)

Seriously. Change the graphic to a rectangle with a double line along the top. Bang, instant generic key that makes everyone happy.

Oh please! (3, Funny)

iamdrscience (541136) | about 10 years ago | (#10056509)

I hope this keyboard has an internet button like Compaq's keyboards do! Finally the internet could be coming to linux!

Redhat? (0, Offtopic)

Walrus99 (543380) | about 10 years ago | (#10056524)

Saw Redhat in a box (9 CD's) at Office Depot, $99. Do you think its worth loading on an old e-machine?

More special keys? (3, Insightful)

Avian visitor (257765) | about 10 years ago | (#10056536)

The hot keys are configured for the Linux operating system and desktop applications, simplifying actions such as cutting, copying and pasting text, and moving between Web pages.

Seriously, who uses all the special hot keys on recent keyboards? Do they really "simplify actions"? They are usually placed on top of all keys, which means you have to move your hands all the way to the top to, for example, copy or paste text. On the other hand, ctrl and c keys are conveniently placed around the letter keys.

Even my standard 104-key keyboard has keys that I use very rarely. For example: Printscreen/SysRQ is useless (unless you are a kernel hacker and you are using it as kernel magic key). I haven't used Pause/Breakkey since the days of DOS. Same goes for entire numeric keyboard, but I believe it can be useful for people that need to enter a lot of numbers. And I won't even mention Windows/Tux/whatever and menu keys (which I removed with a screwdriver on some of my keyboards anyway).

If you ask me, the perfect Linux keyboard has a bigger, more convenient space bar and enter keys (They are certainly the most used and should be as large as possible. They are ridiculously small on some modern keyboards.). Forget the numeric keyboard and the useless keys I mentioned above. Oh and of course, remove the capslock key and place the control key in the proper place.

Hot keys (1)

iamdrscience (541136) | about 10 years ago | (#10056543)

I've used a few keyboards with hotkeys and honestly the only time I've thought they gave any advantage was when I changed my "calculator" button to play Kraftwerk's "Pocket Calculator" ("I'm the operator with my pocket calculator! When I press a special key, it plays a little melody!").

Happy hacking keyboard ? (5, Informative)

Walrusss (750700) | about 10 years ago | (#10056545)

Personaly, I'm using the happy hacking keyboard [yahoo.com] , which is maybe not "specially designed for" linux, but works very well. And there is an "diamond" key that makes the menu pop-up, which is fine for the windows-like-button fans.

Stick to Tux, buy a tuxsticker ! [ptaff.ca]

CTRL and ESC keys are what matters! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10056547)

Who the heck cares about hotkeys or penguin keys -- Does it have the ctrl and esc keys in the right place???? My left pinky is tired from having to reach so far.

Stickers (2, Interesting)

Bocaj (84920) | about 10 years ago | (#10056555)

A lot of keyboards just use permanent stickers for special keys. This way they only have to make one keyboard and then they ship it to mulitple countries. Why not just leave the stickers off the extra keys and supply sets for the user to put them on?

Anyone use hotkeys? (1)

MarkPNeyer (729607) | about 10 years ago | (#10056570)

Does anyone actually bother to use those special hotkeys on their keyboards? I had such a keyboard, but you needed to run special software in order for those hotkeys to do anything, and most of them were useless anyhow. There were controls to interface with a crappy music program, buttons that would bring up IE and Outlook express and one button that you could program to run a single .exe file. The small benefits didnt' seem worth having an extra proram runnning in the system tray.

Voting with dollars (2, Insightful)

Aleph_Zarro (730676) | about 10 years ago | (#10056573)

Heck, I'd pay $50 just for SuSE.

Throw in a keyboard AND an opportunity to demonstrate that consumers will purchase hardware designed for non-Windows systems... I'm there!

Perhaps even twice!

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