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Dodgeball: Text Your Location To Friends

timothy posted more than 8 years ago | from the marco-polo-marco-polo-marco-polo dept.

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iseff writes "I was listening to NPR yesterday in the car and they ran a piece about this new service called Dodgeball. It's essentially a social networking site, except it's based pretty extensively on text messaging. When you go out for the night, you txt the main dodgeball server your location. It then txt's your friends where you are so they can meet you. It can also tell you who is close-by where you are and how you are connected to those people. It seems like a more 'sticky' and applicable use for social networking when compared to Friendster or orkut (which are always very popular when they launch and then quickly fade). Could this maybe be a decent use to social networking that will last? Or will this bust just as fast?"

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Cool (0)

pHatidic (163975) | more than 8 years ago | (#10073848)

Ben Stiller...In the library...With the candlestick

YOU FAIL IT... BEING FUNNY THAT IS! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10074406)

"Dodge this!" --Trinity

Re:Cool - Not Cool (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10074431)

Any socializing structure that requires, by necessity, an electronic mediating device is doomed to failure. As well it should be in a human society.

Anything like this turns human interaction into an episode of Spy vs. Spy.

So, call me a Luddite, and the Hell with ya.

Killer. App. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#10073850)

Killer. App.

Ring them? (5, Interesting)

Coopa (773302) | more than 8 years ago | (#10073852)

If i'm waiting for friends and i have a mobile, why wouldn't I just ring or sms them anyway?

Re:Ring them? (5, Interesting)

Phezult (729465) | more than 8 years ago | (#10073889)

Ah, but if you have more than five friends, it could become taxing to do it yourself. Why not be lazy and let a server do it for you?

It would be cooler if the phone had an integrated GPS, you sent the coordinate with "the touch of a button," it figured out the location (which bar) and then notified your friends with the place name. This lets you be even lazier! Their phones could even provide walking directions if they're already drunk...

Re:Ring them? (5, Informative)

bentfork (92199) | more than 9 years ago | (#10074117)

GPS? it almost does. Remember WAP/WML and our friends at http://www.openwave.com/ [openwave.com] ?

They have this thing called a 'location server' and if you (wap developer) pay the service provider ( verizon, telus... ) they will add a extra header your wap/wml requests that contain your current location. ( accuracy depends on positioning methods that are being used, cell-id, EOTD (enhanced observed time difference), AGPS ( assisted GPS ) and can range between 1000 meter to 5 meters.

I thought it would be a blast to play with, but I have not found any way to get the info for free without using their 'simulator' deck viewer.

Re:Ring them? (1)

tolldog (1571) | more than 9 years ago | (#10074304)

Thats what openwave does?

I walk by their office every day, looking at it, wondering what they could possibly be doing.

-Tim

Re:Ring them? (1)

gl4ss (559668) | more than 9 years ago | (#10074441)

cool, I wonder if that stuff would work with the operators around here.. they've been pretty touchy about their locationing methods based solely on gsm(which works pretty well, worked pretty well like 6 years ago though already iirc, wondering what they could do with it without getting in potential legal trouble. they offer stuff like what's the nearest resteurant etc).

Re:Ring them? (1)

kfg (145172) | more than 9 years ago | (#10074332)

Their phones could even provide walking directions if they're already drunk...

Wouldn't crawling directions be more useful?

Of course you're not really drunk if you can lie on the sidewalk without holding on.

KFG

Re:Ring them? (3, Funny)

mottie (807927) | more than 9 years ago | (#10074385)

but if you have more than five friends

who the heck has more than five err.. yeah.. thats a really good point, this will really help me easily let my fans know where i'm going.

Re:Ring them? (1)

jamesh (87723) | more than 9 years ago | (#10074413)

an even better version could take breath alcohol readings when you talk into it, figure out when you're drunk, and then talk to your car and tell it not to let you drive.

(or alternatively, figure out that you have gotten behind the wheel and are driving a car and send the cops your gps coordinates)

Either way, it would mean less drunk fsckwits that i have to share the road with.

Another version could detect the presence of drunk members of the opposite sex via a signal sent out by their phone.

Re:Ring them? (5, Insightful)

xneilj (15004) | more than 8 years ago | (#10073893)

You clearly don't go out with a large (constantly changing) group of friends.

Sure, when there's 2-3 of you regulraly going out it's easy to coordinate. Once you have 20-30 people in a group of friends, some of which are coming out on a given night, and some which aren't then it gets extremely tedious to:

a) Invite that many people to begin with and not forget anyone.
b) Keep track of who's coming out that night and who isn't.
c) Continually update people who haven't yet arrived as to where you are right now.

Re:Ring them? (5, Funny)

lucabrasi999 (585141) | more than 9 years ago | (#10073955)

Once you have 20-30 people in a group of friends.....

...you have to start coming up with better excuses to avoid them.

Re:Ring them? (2, Interesting)

Coopa (773302) | more than 9 years ago | (#10073996)

Yeah, I suppose. I regularly go out with the same group of people and don't organise it myself (anymore), I ring one person, they ring another and it all filters through. Hopefully.

Re:Ring them? (2, Interesting)

netsharc (195805) | more than 9 years ago | (#10074319)

In an efficient world, if everybody's assigned 2 people to call, and none of them overlaps, you'd get the message spread through 1,3,7,15,(2^n - 1) people very quickly. Of course that's if the minions agree to everything the alpha-creature says, if there are competing alpha-creatures (when you think of college jocks), you'll never get off the phone, and you'll never get all of them in one place!

Re:Ring them? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10074363)

I ring one person, they ring another

Then they tell two friends, and they tell two friends and pretty soon, you are all using the same brand of Shampoo!

Re:Ring them? (2, Insightful)

mdvolm (68424) | more than 9 years ago | (#10074356)

Well, if you're in a bar it's extremely difficult to have any sort of phone conversation. Sending text messages is a much better form of communication in this situation.

Plus, you get the fun of reviewing your conversations in your stored messages the next day.

"Did I really say that!? Shit!" -- Any given weekend

What about (-1, Troll)

Phezult (729465) | more than 8 years ago | (#10073868)

the poor souls who's phones don't have text messaging? *gasp* What if you're the one person without a cell phone? The world might end!

Dodge This (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#10073869)

FP!!!

Re:Dodge This (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#10073876)

hmmmph.

Flawed (1)

KangXii (785324) | more than 8 years ago | (#10073872)

when you go out for the night

Their whole idea is flawed there. Most of us will use it for "I'm in the cubicle down the hall" or something.

Happy Gilmore (2, Funny)

sik0fewl (561285) | more than 8 years ago | (#10073883)

Could this maybe be a decent use to social networking that will last? Or will this bust just as fast?

Yeah, why don't I go eat some hay. I can make things out of clay, or lay by the bay, I just may. Whaddya say?

Nobody makes me bleed my own blood! Nobody! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#10073885)

Should I even bother reading the article?

Have we really gotten that lazy... (5, Insightful)

jmcmunn (307798) | more than 8 years ago | (#10073891)

Is it that hard to call a few people on the phone, or heaven forbid talk to someone at work or school to make plans? I don't understand this recent fascination with multi-tasking on your phone. I must be out of touch with the hip crowd, because I only use my phone to talk to people. No games, no sms messages, no camera.

Sometimes I even turn my phone off when I am out somewhere. It's no fun to always feel like you're pinned down by technology. These days no one gets to unplug and have time to themselves because no matter where you are there are 5 ways to get ahold of you.

Just my 2 cents.

It's the Primate Adolescent Elimination Program. (5, Insightful)

Ungrounded Lightning (62228) | more than 9 years ago | (#10074082)

I don't understand this recent fascination with multi-tasking on your phone. I must be out of touch with the hip crowd, because I only use my phone to talk to people. No games, no sms messages, no camera.

Adolescent primates try out new things and see how they work. (Typically one of the things they try is breaking one major taboo.)

Sometimes it works out very well. Then they are wildly successful and teach the rest of the primates (starting with their family and cronies) about a new food source, technique, etc.

Sometimes it's a disaster. Then they die.

Most of the time it's just interesting to them and maybe fun for a while, then it gets old and gets dropped.

Adolescence is the right time for this sort of behavior. Adolescents are mature enough that they're not likely to fail just through lack of strength, knowldege or skill. But less of the rest of the tribe's resources are sunk by their loss, and their loss is less damaging to the tribe's future, than if they pull this and lose later in life, say once they have young to raise and others who have become dependent on them. Thus do post-adolescents become more conservative, and less experimental and risk-taking, once they have accepted major long-term responsibilities.

Re:Have we really gotten that lazy... (0, Offtopic)

R33MSpec (631206) | more than 9 years ago | (#10074118)

"...It's no fun to always feel like you're pinned down by technology....
....
Just my 2 cents.
Get a FREE iPod and Flat Screen LCD [jiggybyte.com]



With your sig I really can't take what you said seriously!!

Re:Have we really gotten that lazy... (2, Informative)

ricotest (807136) | more than 9 years ago | (#10074139)

The worst specimen of this type is the person who carries out massive conversations via text message. I mean, sure it might end up cheaper in the long run by about 30 pence, but you say so much less and in such a less personal manner. To me, all text messages look the same, like it's the same stereotypical airheaded idiot typing them and giggling. Not sure why, that's just the image they conjure up.

There's still a chance to unplug, though. You turned off your phone. Even before mobiles people used to let their home phones off the hook before a night of action. I don't think we'll ever get to the stage where you're locked into an always-on contact method that isn't face-to-face; it would be too invasive for the public to stand.

Re:Have we really gotten that lazy... (1)

Evil Adrian (253301) | more than 9 years ago | (#10074141)

No games

Good if you're stuck on a train or plane with nothing to do. Why should I need a game boy if I have a phone, which is just a tiny computer?

no sms messages

It's pretty cool to get a page when a production system at the office stops working and starts losing money.

no camera

Could come in handy for a car accident for evidence.

It's convenient to have a bunch of things like that in one semi-easy-to-use device.

Re:Have we really gotten that lazy... (1)

crotherm (160925) | more than 9 years ago | (#10074154)


In the piece, the guy they were talking had a buddy list with about 40 others. Trying to call them all just to say that he is drinking a beer at the corner pub is kind of silly.

The other "feature" they talked about was getting text messages from people who is on one of your buddies' buddy list. That way you can hook up with friends of friends.

Re:Have we really gotten that lazy... (1)

ryen (684684) | more than 9 years ago | (#10074256)

>It's no fun to always feel like you're pinned down by technology
Another thing i would add is that turning off the phone won't necessarily "unpin" you from the technology. I've found that when I turn my phone off, people get upset and think i'm avoiding them.

Cell phones are a great example of where technology has injected itself into many aspects of culture almost and is un-noticed until it becomes apparent that problems exist without it.

Re:Have we really gotten that lazy... (1)

Tony Freakin Twist (673681) | more than 9 years ago | (#10074265)

I've got to agree completely. I'm fairly positive that having a phone on me all the time makes me *less* likely to call anyone. And I assume all my friends feel the same way, as they very rarely call me. Yeah, I'll blame that on technological alienation and just ignore my lack of hygiene...

Re:Have we really gotten that lazy... (1)

FlutterVertigo(gmail (800106) | more than 9 years ago | (#10074290)

You probably burn ants with a magnifying glass, pull the wings off of flies, and put ex-lax in brownies and hand them out as freebies.
It has nothing to do with being lazy. It's called fun - taking advantage of new toys. Why haven't you declared yourself to be a Luddite or joined the Amish?

All that aside, no one says you have to buy the super-powered-supreme-current model. If you choose to buy something less expensive, go for it. If someone wants to buy a Jaguar instead of the '96 Saturn I drive, that's their choice.

Besides, many of us do not inflict cell phones on others. I turn the ringer off in public; e.g., restaurant, movie, etc. When I see it light up, I grab it and head for an exit. If I forget to change it when I leave, then it's my loss, no one else is imposed upon.

(Now if we could get parents to realize that when their kid's screaming is ruining everyone's meal in a cell phone-free restaurant...

Re:Have we really gotten that lazy... (3, Insightful)

The Good Reverend (84440) | more than 9 years ago | (#10074353)

Is it that hard to call a few people on the phone, or heaven forbid talk to someone at work or school to make plans?

You talk about lazy, then immediately mention the telephone, a device used for long distance communication. You could just as easily write a letter to tell your friends, or call it out in the public square. Different technologies add ease - telephone is easier than a letter (or trekking across town when you really want to meet your friend in the middle). This is easier than calling up 40 friends.

Just because a technology is old doesn't mean it's any better, and just because it's new, it doesn't mean it sucks.

Network Assumptions (4, Interesting)

ejaw5 (570071) | more than 8 years ago | (#10073908)

This assumes all the people you associate with share the same network (ie click) without any overlap from other networks. But I suppose as you introduce and get introduced to more people you start to expand.

Again...maybe you don't want others (even if they're your friends) joining in on your party for the night.

Watch enough Seinfeld and you'll notice the buddies of Jerry, George, Kramer, and Elaine often clash. Obviously something like this wouldn't go too well in this case.

Re:Network Assumptions (1)

xmas2003 (739875) | more than 9 years ago | (#10073981)

You could have some "fun" with this - halfway through the night, send out a "broadcast" saying the Coppertone Girl [komar.org] and her friends are at the bar you are hanging out at - would be hilarious to see the rush of guys come streaming in!

Re:Network Assumptions (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10073983)

You can't mix friends.

It's like mixing old people and sex.

Re:Network Assumptions (1)

FlipmodePlaya (719010) | more than 9 years ago | (#10073995)

Good geek karma for you, sir. You had to use the fictional events of a sitcom to explain a common social situation.

All joking aside, you're absolutely right. It's the same reason the AIMers use 'Out' as their away message, rather than 'At the grocery store on 46th street, across from Chase'.

Re:Network Assumptions (1)

MindStalker (22827) | more than 9 years ago | (#10074196)

I actually did this once, and some hot chick who was dying to meet me tracked me down.

Or Not...

Re:Network Assumptions (1)

gl4ss (559668) | more than 9 years ago | (#10074023)

why? sms's can be sent easily to other networks in properly built cellular network systems so that can't be the problem. and they don't need to access your networks data to get data you just sent to them(i don't know how sophisticated their location stuff is, if it's done in arrangement with the operator then it can be very precise - gsm signal strength based locationing isn't exactly new feat either).

*Again...maybe you don't want others (even if they're your friends) joining in on your party for the night.* why would you do it then, send them a message about it? basically it's a mass sms'er with automatic location string, which would be it's failing point. you know where you are already so you could just sms your pals directly.

well, maybe if you're drunk.. .veeerry drunk...

Re:Network Assumptions (1)

FiloEleven (602040) | more than 9 years ago | (#10074045)

>> Again...maybe you don't want others (even if they're your friends) joining in on your party for the night.

Er...in that case, wouldn't you just skip the whole 'txt the server' part, and leave no one the wiser?

Which isn't to say that your point is invalid: I'd like to see 'privacy' implemented as some sort of access lists: you've got a standard list of friends it forwards the message to, and then maybe you've got an extended list (for the big parties), etc. Of course, you should be able to include/exclude anyone at will; the lists are there so that you don't HAVE to contact them all individually.

Re:Network Assumptions (1)

ricotest (807136) | more than 9 years ago | (#10074116)

Again...maybe you don't want others (even if they're your friends) joining in on your party for the night.

Well then don't send out the text.

Re:Network Assumptions (1)

L7_ (645377) | more than 9 years ago | (#10074144)

Also, I don't want to meet with people IRL that I meet online.

They are all creepy.

Meet people via cell phones (3, Interesting)

macdaddy (38372) | more than 8 years ago | (#10073911)

What's the name of the service that lets people check out profiles of people near them via their cell phone and IM them to meet them somewhere? I heard about that on TV I think. This good-looking woman looked at profiles of singles in her immediate area, found one she wanted to meet, and IMed him to meet her at some street-side cafe or something like that. Is that an actual service now or just something some marketing guy thinks will happen someday? It could be cool. Then again you could be IMing the next David Berkowitz [wikipedia.org] to meet you.

How does the site make money? (4, Insightful)

Infonaut (96956) | more than 8 years ago | (#10073912)

Every time someone comes up with a new technology application on the 'Net, people want to judge whether it will be successful or not without thinking about the NUMBER ONE factor - how does a business succeed based on this technology?

This is why Silicon Valley VCs keep fucking up left, right and center. They can't seem to figure out that a business has to make money, regardless of the technology in question.

Re:How does the site make money? (4, Funny)

lucabrasi999 (585141) | more than 9 years ago | (#10074020)

how does a business succeed based on this technology?

Why are you letting those pesky little details get in the way? These guys are Visionary Thought Leaders! Start looking at the Big Picture! See? It's there on your phone! And, you can send that picture TO people!

Re:How does the site make money? (4, Interesting)

AuMatar (183847) | more than 9 years ago | (#10074036)

Not quite- there's different types of success going on.

Technological success: people use and enjoy the technology. This type of success will outlive its parent company. Either other companies will start if the parent fails or an open equivalent will appear.

Financial success: will the company make money off this? Helped by the first, but not strictly necessary.

Buisnesses making money is the provence of the second success. The technology can still be a success and the company can flop.

Re:How does the site make money? (4, Interesting)

Elwood P Dowd (16933) | more than 9 years ago | (#10074126)

Ads based on physical location.

Dude: "I'm at Joe's!"

Dodgeball: "Your friend is nearby at Andy's, but Jack's has happy hour right now."

Blubber Nuggets!!!! LOAL!!!! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#10073914)

It's been 3 days since I've been back on my feet after my anal correction surgery. The doctors told me they have corrected as much of the damage as they could. I think I will get used to having to wear diapers the rest of my life, things could be worse. At least I am still alive, and I can still breathe the fresh air, smell the blossoming flowers, and hear the chirps of courting birds on a spring day. Although my life is much different now, I have the willpower and confidence to move on.

My name is Ben Stanfield. I got anally feltched too hard.

I remember the night like it was yesterday. Another fun and energetic Saturday at the discotech in the gay corner of town. I was being my normal flamboyant social butterfly self and talking to all the local cuties. There were a lot of muscly guys there and I must tell you the scent of raw, homosexual energy at the discotec always made the hair on my neck (and other places) stand erect. But there was this one guy who really stood out in the crowd. I would later discover his name was Trollaxor. The first time I saw his glistening ebony skin at the discotec I knew I wanted him inside me. I've always been good at picking up guys so I walked in my sharp female way, swinging my ass at each step, until I was right in front of that sexy piece of chocolate cake. He had short, frizzy hair, teeth whiter than milk, and a friendly smile that was out of this world. Man, I wanted his dick in my ass so bad. But I had to keep my groove. I said to him in my well crafted lisping tone, "Hey sweetie, I've never your sweet ass in these parts before, want to join me for a drink?" He smiled and replied in a deep yet touching voice, "Heh heh, I sure would you little sex muffin"

This really hit it off from there, We talked and danced and flirted like schoolgirls. I found out he was from a town a few hundred miles away, visiting the big city for a little fun. He had muscles like you wouldn't believe, obviously worked out a lot, I felt like a little strawman compared to him (I'm fashionably slim). I was on top of the world, the envy of every boy at the place, a star. When we were resting from the thumping disco-house music, I asked Trollaxor if he wanted a bump of crystal meth. He gladly accepted, telling me that in the town where he came from it was hard to find good crystal. I took a bump myself. My nose is no stranger to this wonderful stuff! The energy from the crystal really made us move. His dancing skills were on par with mine (which are excellent, I have danced in a couple of small Broadway-style plays before). I was really getting hot and horny at this point though, I knew we had to find a quiet spot of our own.

We walked very quickly to the bathroom; I couldn't keep my hands off his luscious abs. We found an empty stall and stormed into it, it was a whirling hurricane of passion. The speed made us very energetic. We didn't make out for long before things became hot and heavy. I slipped my hand into his tight leather pants and grabbed his sweet man package. I was thinking at this point 'how did a fire hose end up in here?'. Then I realized this was his cock. It was the longest, thickest anaconda of a cock I ever witnessed. I pulled down his pants, which was difficult because he was getting real hard, real fast. I don't even want to guess how long his penis was, at least 12 inches, maybe more. And it was so think I couldn't even grab around it all with one hand. His cock was sweaty and glistened. I wanted this black staff real bad. I pulled off my own pants and bent down. I stuck the head of his cock in my mouth but it was just too big. I licked the rim a bit but I knew what I REALLY wanted. I turned around and assumed the position I have assumed so many times before. Face down, ass up. That's the way we like to fuck. My anus was not prepared for this brutal thrashing however. I've always described the sensation of anal intercourse as taking a long, incredibly enjoyable shit. But this didn't feel right at all. The walls of my anus were ripping, "PLEASE! Be gentle! I'm just a little white boy" I screamed. Trollaxor, fueled by crystal meth, wouldn't stop though. He began pushing his black cock into me harder and harder. The pain and pleasure was out of this world. I could feel his huge testicles smacking the back of my ass. He was grunting and groaning like a real man. I could hear the sensuous sound of blood and shit being packed by his violent fucking. I was in immense pain but I didn't want it to stop. He must have fucked me for 45 minutes before it was over but finally he began to cum. He was screaming so loud, "OH OH OH OH OH MY GOD, YES YES YES, TAKE IT LIKE A MAN, TAKE IT LIEK A MAN, AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! OH YEAH!" At that moment I felt a gallon of cum spray into my ass, and I could hear shit, blood, and semen squishing inside me. It was paradise.

After Trollaxor removed his penis from my ass the problems started. I realized I was bleeding a lot more than usual. It took a whole roll of toilet paper to clean it up. I got dressed and returned to the discotech to unwind before going home. As I was walking across the dance floor I felt a sharp pain in my ass and lower stomach. I fell to the floor and started screaming, I was shaking and sweaty and pale. At that moment, a huge surge of watery shit spewed from my anus. It was mixed with blood and semen. I was crying and screaming and in pain. Everything started to go black and I vomited all over myself. I briefly remember someone pulling me out of my pile of feces, semen, blood, and vomit and on to a stretcher.

I awoke in a hospital bed. A doctor was there when I opened my eyes. He explained to me how I almost died and how my ass and lower intestine were permanently damaged not only from Trollaxor but also from years of vigorous fucking by multitudes of men. It was a shock but I knew it was my own fault, you cannot lead this sort of lifestyle and not face the consequences one day.

So life goes on, I no longer frequent the discotec where I met Trollaxor and then collapsed spewing watery shit. I lead a much more relaxed, normal life now. I still talk to Trollaxor, even though he damaged me I will never forget that night. He is in love now with a boy in his hometown, and I wish him the best.

Your Guide to Comments on This Story (3, Funny)

Nova Express (100383) | more than 8 years ago | (#10073924)

Step 1. Comment how this falsely assumes that Geeks have social lives.

Step 2: Insert comment about text messaging from your parent's basement.

Step 3: ???

Step 4: Karma!

Step 5: CowboyNeal

Re:Your Guide to Comments on This Story (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10073972)

Don't forget:

Step 6:

Cue some arrogant twit who takes the time and energy to sum up "typical" comments, not realizing that by doing so he is engaging in the same predictable behaviour that he is speaking of.

Re:Your Guide to Comments on This Story (1)

f8free (779580) | more than 9 years ago | (#10074054)

Holy shit, this is so meta it's not even funny. It's depressing, because there's nothing new under the sun.

Re:Your Guide to Comments on This Story (1)

benna (614220) | more than 9 years ago | (#10074084)

when you really think about it its all meta like that, everything. Everything on top of everything, with nothing real underneath. Or look at it the other way and say all the meta IS reality, either way its fun to think about it.

Re:Your Guide to Comments on This Story (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10074102)

when you really think about it its all meta like that, everything. Everything on top of everything, with nothing real underneath. Or look at it the other way and say all the meta IS reality, either way its fun to think about it

Dude, seriously, you need to get out some more

Re:Your Guide to Comments on This Story (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10074022)

When the hell did CowboyNeal become a step? A poll option, sure, but a step? I think not.

Re:Your Guide to Comments on This Story (1)

f8free (779580) | more than 9 years ago | (#10074031)

You forgot Step 6: Obligatory post attempting to pre-empt every single typical Slashdot user's efforts to adapt the familiar tired old jokes to this new story.

And also Steps 7-n: Anything I missed.

Except for Soviet Russia. I never get tired of how in Soviet Russia, things are backwards.

I'm not kidding. I laugh every time. Well, a mild chuckle at least.

it's much more than just that.. (5, Informative)

enrico_suave (179651) | more than 8 years ago | (#10073929)

I saw these guys presentation at Oreilly's etech conference in Feb... and it does a whole host of geolocation type services.

IT's really quite slick the little sms/email query system they came up with.

It has access to geocoded data, so if you tell the service about your location, besides telling your friends where you are, it can tell you that their's 50 cent drafts down the block... or you can ask it where the closest bar with a pac man or pooltable...

Obviously, this makes the most sense and is the most useful, in a dense urban area filled with younger/hipper crowd with a mobile phone less than 3 years old =P

There are a lot of cool geolocation based social implications... cool spontaneous flash mob type stuff.

In short, I wish I thought of it =( bastages!

e.

Wait a second... (5, Funny)

TheSpoom (715771) | more than 9 years ago | (#10073950)

Why was "FBI" just added to my friends list?

Privacy and group formation (1)

Broadcatch (100226) | more than 9 years ago | (#10074092)

When one messages their location, determination of the privacy and use of this information should be up to the sender, though that is not clear from the site. Further, the ability to form secure groupings would seem to me important.

SNs still need a distributed, trusted identity infrastructure that enables full user control over their information and potability of authentication and (profile) data storage providers.

Possible uses on the "scene" (2, Insightful)

loqi (754476) | more than 9 years ago | (#10073973)

At first I thought this sounded pretty useless. My friends can always just call me to find out where I am, and vice versa.

But I can see this holding some appeal for people with large acquaintance networks who like to bar-hop. It's always fun to run into people you know (assuming you like those people, at any rate) when you're out on the town. Certainly easier than calling twenty plus people to find out if they're within a few blocks.

Potential for Annoyance: 100% (4, Insightful)

glpierce (731733) | more than 9 years ago | (#10073990)

I can see this becoming annoying quite quickly. If you had just one friend who used this, but you actually had a life (that wasn't completely dependent on them), you'd constantly get pathetic messages on your phone, despite the fact that you don't want to hang out with them every night of the week. It would only take one overly extroverted person to annoy dozens of normal people.

Re:Potential for Annoyance: 100% (2, Insightful)

mooredav (101800) | more than 9 years ago | (#10074110)

"It would only take one overly extroverted person to annoy dozens of normal people."

With a name like "Dodgeball", you ought to be able to strike them with something if you want them out of the network.

Re:Potential for Annoyance: 100% (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10074180)

Yeah, but you'd know where they are so you could easily avoid them. Boy, I sure wish some of the loser tag-alongs I knew in college used this. Heh.

Just add GPS (4, Interesting)

G4from128k (686170) | more than 9 years ago | (#10073994)

If they added GPS to the mix and an autotrack function (with "do not disturb/do not track" toggle, of course) then people could use the service without having to stop all the time and text the server. The minute you move more than 50 feet from your "official" location, the GPS would recompute and resend a new update. As long as you are in motion, it sends a "Not stationary" message. Once you arrive, it notices the stabilization in position and sends the new locale (maybe reverse lookup to provide a street addy or the name of the club).

Just don't tell your employer that you have this.

There goes my alibi (4, Interesting)

TheOtherAgentM (700696) | more than 9 years ago | (#10074006)

What if I don't want people knowing where I am at all times? Unless this is something you can turn off, I don't see people climbing on board too readily. Think about all those people that are unfaithful within their social circle. It would be kind of strange to know your significant other is always within a couple miles of someone else in your social circle. If nothing is going on, I bet you still find people that get jealous off of this "evidence." Too much technology is a bad thing sometimes. I know. I just read it. I can't believe I said it either.

Re:There goes my alibi (1)

jwbrown77 (526512) | more than 9 years ago | (#10074424)

I was listening to the NPR spot last night.

The Dodgeball server is set to forget where you are a few hours later. The inventors acknowledge that trust over knowing people's locations is a barrier that some may not trust, but the best they can do is "take our word for it."

Another part of this service they mentioned is that it has a "six degrees" type feature that will send your data to friends of friends that you may not know (if you want to).

Target demographic? (1)

David M. Sweeney (105063) | more than 9 years ago | (#10074019)

Not to throw a wet blanket on somebody else's Killer App, but how is this service of use to anyone over the age of 16?

And there's always the potential problem of having a quiet dinner with a date interruped by marauding bands of Dodgeball friends-of-friends.

Minimum Requirements (1)

mcguyver (589810) | more than 9 years ago | (#10074026)

Unfortunately, taking full advantage of dodgeball requires both friends (everquest doesn't count) and living in a big city.

Re:Minimum Requirements (1)

peculiarmethod (301094) | more than 9 years ago | (#10074292)

nah..

I'm right by the ol' Hollins tree. just down route 9, past the Brodey's place, left at the hawin' goat, funny bugger, and just down the way.

you bring the moonshine.

pm

One thing must be assumed, however... (4, Funny)

TheDarkener (198348) | more than 9 years ago | (#10074035)

Is that the people participating actually leave their houses on the weekends...

Dodgeball_SMS(7:30p)Slashdotter_Location: Bedroom
Dodgeball_SMS(8:00p)Slashdotter_Location: Bathroom
Dodgeball_SMS(8:30p)Slashdotter_Location : Bedroom

This could be really useful (5, Funny)

rudy_wayne (414635) | more than 9 years ago | (#10074046)


for stalkers.

Re:This could be really useful (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10074130)

If someone is stalking you, and you take the time out of your day to send them messages telling them where you are, then you deserve whatever they decide to do to you.

Social networking tool centered around bookmarks (3, Informative)

otisg (92803) | more than 9 years ago | (#10074095)

Hah, usefulness of social networking sites. I always wondered what the point of Orkut was.

In any case, take a look at Simpy [simpy.com] (demo [simpy.com] or tour [simpy.com] ) for an example of a useful social (networking tool) that is centered around bookmarks (i.e. something that is actually useful).

Re:Social networking tool centered around bookmark (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10074168)

Wow. Nice spam, jackass.

Re:Social networking tool centered around bookmark (1)

mottie (807927) | more than 9 years ago | (#10074421)

this looks similar to stumbleupon [stumbleupon.com] which "lets you channel-surf pages recommended by friends and peers"

Re:Social networking tool centered around bookmark (1)

otisg (92803) | more than 9 years ago | (#10074438)

It may be similar, but it's not the same. With Simpy I can search my own bookmarks and create my own mini-Google, for instance. I can't do that with Stumbleupon.

You insensitive clods! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10074099)

I don't have any friends or cell phones!

Technology behind this (1)

bobthemuse (574400) | more than 9 years ago | (#10074104)

Anybody know how this works? I mean, without one of the new GPS-enabled cell phones, how do they determine your location? Maybe the tower ID is hidden somewhere in the header information when it's converted to email?

I've been looking for a way to determine the approximate location a photo-message (MMS) was taken, didn't think there was a way to do this.

If they are basing this on which tower a person is going through, how do they handle different service providers? Did someone actually map all the NYC towers for all different providers?

Big Brother is Tracking You. (2, Insightful)

Ungrounded Lightning (62228) | more than 9 years ago | (#10074106)

Use of this service leaves a record at the server of your location, movements, and who you are associating with.

Maybe the fun is worth it. Maybe not. But if you subscribe, you might want to be careful about who your friends are. If they screw up with the law, the law might just decide you're a gang member, vandal, or terrorist. B-(

Re:Big Brother is Tracking You. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10074155)

sorry to inform you, but if you carry a cell phone, you are being tracked already. How do you think they knew where Scott Peterson was all the time? Police get a warrant, the phone company flags your phones ID and voila, instant location.

Hmm (1, Redundant)

cdgod (132891) | more than 9 years ago | (#10074137)

Whatever happened to just calling my friends and telling them where I am?

Is this too much these days?

geolocation is augmented reality's killer app. (3, Insightful)

man_ls (248470) | more than 9 years ago | (#10074140)

This sort of thing seems more like the killer app for augmented reality (computer-assisted vision) than for cell phones and SMS messages.

Caveat emptor: Augmented reality does not yet exist in a workable fashion (but it's getting there.)

Combine one of these: http://eyetap.org/
with a geolocation service, and you could do things like, looking at a building and gathering information about its ammenities, contact information (a phone number, a Zagatsurvey rating, etc) and also a list of who, on your contact list, may be inside/in the proximity.

a kind of personal tracking sort of thing.

Distribution list (1)

kd5ujz (640580) | more than 9 years ago | (#10074167)

On my cheap ass nokia, I can create a distribution list. This is The same thing, but now you have to sign into there service, and create a new list. You will probably put the number in your phone first anyway. Seems like a dotbomb business model.

Re:Distribution list (1)

mottie (807927) | more than 9 years ago | (#10074439)

On my cheap ass nokia, I can create a distribution list.

yes but you most likely have to pay for each outgoing message that is sent, regardless of the fact that you think you're only sending one.

The usefulness of social networking sites (1)

kabloom (755503) | more than 9 years ago | (#10074169)

I haven't really figured out the usefulness of online networking sites, except that they seem to be geared somewhat toward dating - even sites like thefacebook.com and probably orkut and friendster.

Nevertheless, I met a girl at a time when I *absolutely couldn't* write down her contact information, we had a very interesting conversation, and I would have loved have had her contact information. All the googling in the world never found her, but a quick search on thefacebook.com found her within 5 minutes.

Spam (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10074201)

This is just asking to be abused. Someone working at *Insert Nightclub here*, would farm friend's lists and send a txt msg to them saying meet me here! Free advertising.

Dodgeball? (5, Insightful)

wobblie (191824) | more than 9 years ago | (#10074202)

I think this service would be more useful for avoiding encounters with people whose company you abhor.

Hence the name "dodgeball."

More features! (1)

Turadg (13362) | more than 9 years ago | (#10074252)

First off, I think this thing is going to take off. It looks like they know how to get the lay user (slickness and press coverage) and the digerati (eg. FOAF import). I hope they push open standards (like FOAF), but I'm sure their business plan imposes some limits. What new features should they have? Tell them at social@dodgeball.com. I wrote in to ask that they add movie theatres as a venue type. Wouldn't it be great to finish seeing a movie and meet friends of friends outside to chat about it?

Stupid.. (1)

bmantz65 (642864) | more than 9 years ago | (#10074343)

I think this leaves too many "unexpected" situations, like in Three's Company. Like you send a message to this service saying you're at XXX123 Place and instead of the message going to your buddies or potential date, it goes to your wife/girlfriend/mom/grandma/aunt whoever.

Finally... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10074382)

Dodgeball for nerds. I'm sure most of you dorks are used to being bashed by the jocks when it came to dodgeball.
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