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Free DVD Recording Tool For Linux?

timothy posted more than 9 years ago | from the never-satisfied dept.

Data Storage 160

jobsagoodun writes " cdrecord-ProDVD is OK for burning DVDs but (i) it grumbles pointlessly about device names and (ii) it has a weird binary-only license that expires every six months or so. There are some Free forks off cdrtools - dvd+rw/+r/-r ,dvdrtools and this patch - do any of them make a good replacement?"

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Some info (5, Informative)

Guiri (522079) | more than 9 years ago | (#10097723)

I use dvd+rw-tools and works pretty good.

To burn a DVD I just do:

growisofs -Z /dev/burner -R -J /path/to/data

A very good option for doing all this very easily is to get K3b [sourceforge.net] which is part of the KDE distribution.

For authoring DVDs I recently discovered Qdvdauthor [sourceforge.net], and it works like a charm!, I was able to create my own DVDs with menus with custom backgrounds, sound, etc.

Also check my homepage for help about video conversions: http ://dvdripping-guid.berlios.de [berlios.de]

Re:Some info (5, Informative)

Corhonio (696880) | more than 9 years ago | (#10098091)

I've been using dvd+rw-tools (my distro is gentoo) exlusively for burning dvds since I got a plextor 708A last xmas.

I never had a single problem with it from day 1 :)

I'd like to mention that with the -overburn flag I can squeeze a bit more of data (above 4.7 billion bytes but below 4.7 million Kbytes(Kbyte=1024 bytes)) when needed.

In addition I update my dvd burners firmware with PXUpdate for UNIX http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/glone/employee s/joerg.schilling/private/firmware.html [fokus.gmd.de], something which is very important for people that don't dual boot.

As demonstrated in https://expressivefreedom.org/Projects/PVR/Firewir e-Methodology.html [expressivefreedom.org] a 4gb+ single file (ie a backup tar/bz2ball) can be squeezed in dvd, which is something that propably(I can't say for sure since I haven't used windows for ages) can't be done in windows.

Chris. PS Use the above at your own risk

Re:Some info (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10098643)

4gb+ single file (ie a backup tar/bz2ball) can be squeezed in dvd, which is something that propably(I can't say for sure since I haven't used windows for ages) can't be done in windows

Sure it can be done in Windows. Why do think that your aging Windows knowledge is still current?

Re:Some info (3, Informative)

slobbargoat (726076) | more than 9 years ago | (#10098598)

A very good option for doing all this very easily is to get K3b which is part of the KDE distribution.

Just note that you don't need the entire KDE distribution to have K3b, you only need kdelibs from the KDE distribution.

Schilly is the Dawes of CD recording (2, Informative)

Nailer (69468) | more than 9 years ago | (#10098986)

Makes a great tool, but screws it up in his desire for control. Schilly cdrecord is no longer Open Source in its most recent versions due to a license change. GIYF.

Use the cdrecord that comes in your distro. Red Hat, Suse, and most others now come with patched versions of older cdrecord that handle DVDs fine.

Is this a joke? (-1, Flamebait)

Dot.Com.CEO (624226) | more than 9 years ago | (#10097724)

I did not think there could be any desktop user that has not heard of k3b...

Perhaps for the next Ask Slashdot we could have a question about free web browsers? Or maybe a free Linux C compiler?

Re:Is this a joke? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10097748)

I was thinking the same... here is the official web site link
k3b.org [k3b.org]

Re:Is this a joke? (2, Insightful)

sH4RD (749216) | more than 9 years ago | (#10097757)

Not everyone uses KDE, so why would everyone know about it? Sure you can run it under other window managers, but most KDE users have never heard of lots of Gnome utils, and many Fluxbox users don't use those type of GUI utils anyway.

Re:Is this a joke? (1)

eille-la (600064) | more than 9 years ago | (#10097799)

Sure you can run it under other window managers, but most KDE users have never heard of lots of Gnome utils, and many Fluxbox users don't use those type of GUI utils anyway.

If all linux desktop user had to Ask Slashdot for this kind of question...
Freshmeat.net exists and its platform and even license independent. If you visit slashdot enough to use the ask slashdot feature, it is weird that you don't know the existance of freshmeat.net or at least use it if you already know it.

Re:Is this a joke? (1)

sH4RD (749216) | more than 9 years ago | (#10097825)

It is his problem he doesn't use the internet, and to defend myself, it's true, many users of other window managers have not heard of programs designed for different WMs, however he is dumb for not using Google or freshmeat. I was simply pointing out that he was't stupid. However, the real question is why the Slashdot newsposters thought it was newsworthy.

Re:Is this a joke? (5, Insightful)

Minna Kirai (624281) | more than 9 years ago | (#10097932)

Freshmeat.net exists and its platform and even license independent.

First, note that "k3b" is one of the least-informative program names imaginable. It provides ZERO descriptive data (aside from possibly the fact that it uses KDE). Nobody can be expected to guess that she wants "k3b" to make DVDs. So what happens if you search for a "DVD burner" on freshmeat.net?

Searching for "DVD burner" gives 0 hits. "DVD burn" gives 8 hits, but k3b isn't one of them. "cd burn" gives 7 hits, again without mentioning k3b.

Searching for "DVD" by itself produces 128 results, but again, k3b isn't in there. So apparently a freshmeat search is useless, unless you already knew the cryptic 3-character app name.

A google-search (such as for "linux dvd burn") would've faster and more fruitful. Rather sad that freshmeat isn't a good place to search for Free software...

Re:Is this a joke? (2, Insightful)

Taladar (717494) | more than 9 years ago | (#10097990)

Rather sad that freshmeat isn't a good place to search for Free software...
I guess the reason for no mention of k3b on freshmeat is more kde's braindamaged way of packaging applications that anything else. They have so many apps that might be useful to non-kde-users but they insist on making some arbitary division into category-packages like "kde-network", "kde-pim",...

That is one of the things thats really sad about the kde project. The authors of every single app in the kde project artificially reduce their userbase this way.

Re:Is this a joke? (2, Informative)

Minna Kirai (624281) | more than 9 years ago | (#10098459)

I guess the reason for no mention of k3b on freshmeat is more kde's braindamaged way of packaging applications

Wrong. Freshmeat has a page for k3b [freshmeat.net], independent of any larger "kde-tools" package. But you can't find it by searching by reasonable keywords like "DVD burn"- you have to already know that k3b is what you want to search for.

The problem's not the completeness of freshmeat, but the lack of a good way to browse/search.

Re:Is this a joke? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10098321)

Rather sad that freshmeat isn't a good place to search for Free software...

That's because Freshmeat's search is now powered by Yahoo! Weeeeeeeeee! Don't belive me? Just look under the search box on the front page [freshmeat.net].

Re:Is this a joke? (4, Funny)

zulux (112259) | more than 9 years ago | (#10097763)

Dear Slashdot,
I've been having fun with my new Mandrake install - but coming from a Windows world, I'm puzzeled...

Does Linux have a text editor?

Re:Is this a joke? (1)

rusty0101 (565565) | more than 9 years ago | (#10098398)

I don't know, have you figured out how you are supposed to add new software?

And where can I find a list of available software to install?

[/sarcasm]

Re:Is this a joke? (1)

julesh (229690) | more than 9 years ago | (#10098753)

Does Linux have a text editor?

True story -- I was installing SuSE personal the other day, just to see what you got on a 1cd distribution these days.

I went through my usual application selection routine, disabling the stuff that I can't stand (e.g. vim, joe).

By the time I was finished, the only console based text editor installed on the system was 'ed'.

WHAT? No emacs? Not even an emacs-compatible editor? (I used to be a big fan of jove -- like emacs, only loaded _instantly_, even on my old 386).

Was most disappointed. Hooked straight up to their FTP site to download the missing rpms.

Re:Is this a joke? (2, Funny)

Ice_Balrog (612682) | more than 9 years ago | (#10099107)

Does Linux have a text editor?
No. Real men (Linux users) use dd to write files to /dev/hd[a-z][1-9], and cat to read 'em.

Re:Is this a joke? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10097775)

Actually, I have never heard of it.
Never used KDE either.

Re:Is this a joke? (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10097811)

in case you haven't noticed, k3b burns DVDs using those very programs he mentioned in the summary.

it it just a front-end for programs like mkisofs and cdrecord.

Re:Is this a joke? (4, Funny)

Ford Prefect (8777) | more than 9 years ago | (#10097813)

Perhaps for the next Ask Slashdot we could have a question about free web browsers? Or maybe a free Linux C compiler?
  • Web browser - Chimera [chimera.org]. Has an Athena-based X11 user interface, supports modern GIF images, and can retrieve data from HTTP, FTP and Gopher servers.
  • C compiler - various exist, including the Tiny C Compiler [bellard.free.fr]. Other possibilities for porting include Sozobon C Compiler [mbernstein.de] and Open Watcom [openwatcom.org].
Hope that helps!

Re:Is this a joke? (5, Informative)

\/\/ (49485) | more than 9 years ago | (#10097822)

I did not think there could be any desktop user that has not heard of k3b...

I did not think there could be any desktop user that doesn't understand k3b is a GUI FRONTEND to several command line tools, one of them being cdrecord-ProDVD for writing DVDs. Without these backends, your k3b will DO NOTHING. Another option for writing DVDs are the dvd+rw-tools, which also work for DVD-R now. THAT is what the question is about, not your GUI-of-the-day.

Perhaps for the next Ask Slashdot we could have a question about free web browsers? Or maybe a free Linux C compiler?

Or maybe have a question about what's the difference about a GUI frontend and an actual work-performing backend?

Re:Is this a joke? (2, Insightful)

ccharles (799761) | more than 9 years ago | (#10097857)

Probably it's not a joke. I'm aware of K3B, and I've even used it. I agree: it's an excellent application. It works well, and it's *extremely* easy to use. There's just one problem: it depends on Qt.

I don't use KDE, and I try to avoid installing its libraries if I can. This is very hard to do sometimes, because some very good programs, like K3B, depend on those libraries. However, I like to run a lean system, so I try to steer clear of KDE-ized apps.

Re:Is this a joke? (2, Informative)

cjpez (148000) | more than 9 years ago | (#10098277)

It should be pointed out that Qt actually doesn't have anything to do with KDE, other than KDE elected to use Qt as its base. Qt can be installed perfectly fine with no other KDE components, and there's plenty of other software that relies on only Qt, and no KDE components.

KDE is probably the most "well-known" application which uses Qt, and so they're associated together in many people's minds, but Qt doesn't depend on one inch of KDE.

Re:Is this a joke? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10098496)

Perhaps Qt doesn't depend on KDE, but gods know K3B needs all the KDE crap.

Are there any *significant* Qt applications that don't require KDE's idiotic ways of doing things? At least there are a few people using GTK that don't require you to install all the Gnome idiocies just to display a window.

Re:Is this a joke? (1)

jobsagoodun (669748) | more than 9 years ago | (#10097984)

Not heard of K3b, & I don't use KDE & didn't want to install it that much being a happy Gnome. I've had a look now, thanks for pointing it out. It does appear to use one of the 'ProDVD' alternative tools I mentioned in my post though - rather than being a self-contained dvd burning tool in and of itself.

Re:Is this a joke? (1)

xigxag (167441) | more than 9 years ago | (#10098031)

He wasn't just asking for people to spout the names of various free recording tools. He was specifically asking if any make a good replacement for cdrecord-ProDVD [fokus.gmd.de]. Which, I think, is a perfectly good Ask Slashdot question.

Anyway, it appears that SuSE and Mandrake [mandrakesoft.com] have patched versions of cdrtools which are able to write to DVD without restriction. I don't have personal experience with this tool, so perhaps someone else who regularly runs Linux can verify.

Re:Is this a joke? (1)

Johnny O (22313) | more than 9 years ago | (#10098105)

I use KDE on Linux and Solaris and I NEVER heard of this tool. Pretty cool front end. But it still relies on these programs in question....

Never assume :D

Install Windows XP (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10097729)

Problem solved

Shoot yourself in the face (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10097764)

Problem solved.

Re:Install Windows XP (0, Offtopic)

WhatAmIDoingHere (742870) | more than 9 years ago | (#10097774)

Windows XP doesn't have native DVD burning abilities.

Longhorn is supposed to, but with all the things that MS is cutting, it may not.

Re:Install Windows XP (1)

Sexy Bern (596779) | more than 9 years ago | (#10098987)

C:\Documents and Settings\Bern>dvdburn /
Usage: dvdburn <drive> <image> [/Erase]
Give it an ISO and it will burn it...

Re:Install Windows XP (-1, Flamebait)

mingot (665080) | more than 9 years ago | (#10098131)

Heh you know if this was a story about some windows deficiency and there was a post that said "Install Linux Problem Solved" it would be +5 funny before the GNAA even managed to post.

But this is a story about an ALLEGED weakness in Linux, soget with the fucking program and deride the original article submitter while showing that there are a plethora of open source solutions that will easily do that job AND suck you off simultaneously. And knead your balls, too.

Re:Install Windows XP (0)

gardyloo (512791) | more than 9 years ago | (#10098330)

I SO wish I had mod points right now. I rarely agree with posts which've been marked "flamebait" -- and this one IS flamebait. But the poster is making a very good point. Perhaps not diplomatically, but who cares?

I hereby start the concept of virtual mod points. They're just as valid at "real" mod points, only they don't show up on YOUR computer.

+5 -- insightful

MOD PARENT +5 INSIGHTFULL!!! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10098320)

In *nix it takes 20 steps to burn a DVD, that is if you can get the "free" program to work and recognize your drive.

In Windows XP I just drop and drag

That's only if you want... (1)

Ayanami Rei (621112) | more than 9 years ago | (#10098581)

A UDF filesystem split across multiple sessions.

And don't forget you need tons of space in your Local Settings/Temp folder (at least as much as you want to copy in an increment).

k3b (3, Informative)

FireChipmunk (447917) | more than 9 years ago | (#10097732)

k3b [sourceforge.net] works great for burning DVDs.

Re:k3b (1)

DrLZRDMN (728996) | more than 9 years ago | (#10097866)

This was modded redundant, it was posted in the same minute as the previous, and theres another one underneath that gets informative. Parent probobly hit reply before the other was posted.

dvdrecord??/ (1, Informative)

kidgenius (704962) | more than 9 years ago | (#10097762)

I could be mistaken, but I thought there was a counterpart to cdrecord called dvdrecord.

dvdrtools (4, Informative)

mishan (146987) | more than 9 years ago | (#10097765)

I use dvdrtools (dvdrecord), which works completely perfectly for me. Debian even has dvdrtools in their distribution already. I use it just like cdrecord.
dvdrecord -v dev=/dev/dvdrw driveropts=burnproof -dao -data MY_DVD_IMAGE.ISO

dvdrtools (4, Informative)

james b (31361) | more than 9 years ago | (#10097783)

dvdrtools in Debian unstable works pretty well.
I use it like this:
mkisofs -f -udf -V "Your Disc Label" -o currentcd.img -r "your-directory-of-data"
dvdrecord dev=/dev/hdd -dao currentcd.img

It gives a warning about accessing the drive via /dev/hdd being depracated, but works fine.

growisofs is your friend (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10097803)

I just use growisofs! It comes with the dvd+rw-tools and it works like a charm. It only requires mkisofs.

So to burn a data DVD:
growisofs -Z /dev/dvd -r -J my_directory

and to burn a video DVD:
growisofs -Z /dev/dvd -dvd-video my_dvd

I don't know the story behind cdrecord-prodvd and all that license cruft (was Mr. Joerg "you must use SCSI" Schilling involved with that nonsense?)

The less you have to deal with Schilling the better.

Re:growisofs is your friend (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10098230)

Schilling is an obsolete currency and has been superseded by Euro. :P Burn on!

DVD for? (1)

gmuslera (3436) | more than 9 years ago | (#10097814)

A lot will answer k3b and the tools it uses to do its "magic", but not sure it could count as a dvd producer in the movie sense.

But for burning data, or formatting DVDs, or even copying or burning a DVD iso is very good.

Even love the kde trick of putting a blank dvd and offering me to launch (even by default) k3b to burn something there.

k3b (5, Insightful)

tiger99 (725715) | more than 9 years ago | (#10097933)

When I last stuck a blank DVD in the drive some weeks ago, it just worked. k3b did indeed open, it was so uncannily like the way a certain broken OS works for CD writing, if something like Roxio is installed.

I become more impressed with kde each time I use it, which is daily. The level of integration must surely be the equal of its closed-source rivals.

BTW I do most of my work on SuSE 9.1, but it (kde) seems much the same on the other machines, Xandros, FC2 and even FreeBSD (although I have not yet tried DVD writing on the latter).

I get the impression that each of kde and gnome is in itself a much bigger achievement than the kernel, and certainly they are important because new users or prospective users see the GUI first. They don't care about the window manager, or the X implementation, or even the kernel. But Linux distros are clearly doing something right.

BTW my DVD writer is multi-mode (+/-R and RW, and RAM) and the type of blank disc was correctly identified without any messing about by me, much to my surprise, as I have seen the "other" OS have problems.

What I'd like to see... (3, Interesting)

polyp2000 (444682) | more than 9 years ago | (#10097819)

Is a a good DVD-Authoring system. Its easy enough to burn DVD's on linux and has been for some time K3b uses the command line tools to do its work seamlessly.

But i'd like it to be easier to dump footage via my DV Camcorder over firewire and dump it on a DVD with a nice little menu. Just by clicking a couple of buttons. Alas I havent come across anything like this yet. Which is why im still hankering after a powerbook.

Nick ...

Re:What I'd like to see... (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10097979)

I'd like to see that, too, although I am alot happier to discover that video DVDs do NOT REQUIRE menus! Because, personally, I just want to pop in a disc and go. I don't want to do more work than press play, and I doubt my presently-DVD-less parents want anything different from the "play/stop/rewind/ff" interface of a VCR they're familiar with either.

So here's my formula to get DV to DVD without crufty menus. With almost minimum fuss.

1. use kino to grab the DV and do basic editing. It can't do much editing (i.e. you can't trim in between clips) and it's sluggish in some respects but it works like a charm.
2. Inside kino go to EXPORT->MPEG and select option 8 for the file format.
This uses mpeg2enc, which is amazingly SLOW, but does a good job. Expect many hours encoding 1 hour of footage. My FX-53 is about 1/10th real time. If you want to retain chapters, make sure to select "scene split" before exporting!
3. So now you have one or more .mpeg files. Use dvdauthor to construct the directory. First you must make an XML file (the second-most annoying part of the whole procedure after mpeg2enc slowness).
<dvdauthor>
<vmgm />
<titleset>
<titles>
<pgc>
<vob file="/path/to/first.mpeg" />
<vob file="/path/to/next.mpeg" />
</pgc>
</titles>
</titleset>
</dvdauthor>
4. Generate the DVD file structure.
dvdauthor -o my_dvd -x my.xml

5. Burn it with growisofs
growisofs -Z /dev/dvd -dvd-video my_dvd

Voila! Alot of steps and very slow, but not too painful otherwise. And no annoying menus!

Re:What I'd like to see... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10098053)

Use Kino and dvdauthor.

Re:What I'd like to see... (4, Informative)

AstroDrabb (534369) | more than 9 years ago | (#10098399)

You can get MainActor [mainconcept.com] for Linux. A professional multi-platform editor. Some info from the site:
MainActor 5 for Linux offers professional features almost identical to the features you already know from the Windows version, including DV capture and MPEG-1/2 import and export in a new interface.
You can download the demo and give it a whirl. I think it cost about $99.

For lighter work, there is Q DVD-Author [sourceforge.net]. It is FOSS and works well for making DVD's with menus, etc.

Re:What I'd like to see... (1)

julesh (229690) | more than 9 years ago | (#10098621)

I use it under Windows, rather than Linux, but DVDStyler (its on sourceforge, not sure of the exact project name) works well for me. Its a wxWindows based GUI, drag & drop. Very intuitive interface. I think you'll need to convert your files to MPEG beforehand, though.

A bit difficult, but: (1)

Sheetrock (152993) | more than 9 years ago | (#10097823)

The best DVD recording solution I have found was to take virtualization software such as QEMU and hack in direct ATAPI calls for the DVD device. There is some work involved in figuring out which device on the spoke is the DVD, and I don't recommend allowing direct ATAPI calls to everything (might collide with Linux's use of hda, etc.) but you should be able to determine this from the '-scanbus' call to cdrecord/dvdrecord.

The other thing to do is to dump some form of Windows (from 95 up to XP) to the virtualization program and install one of the more contemporary DVD recorders on it (Nero works well, but shop around.) QEMU works fast enough that DVD burning can be a reality under this setup, but you'll need to set up something like Samba on the Linux side or NFS under Windows in order to bridge the systems for DVD authoring using your Linux material.

Hope this helps -- if at all curious, please drop by #linux on EFnet and ask for more information.

Re:A bit difficult, but: (2, Interesting)

maskedbishounen (772174) | more than 9 years ago | (#10098214)

I know of a guy who runs Nero under WINE and claims to have no problems with it. Would be great if they released a native linux version. I would certainly buy a copy, at least.

The inability to burn certain (most) image formats with some (all?) of the existing tools drives me crazy more times than not. I know that there are some image conversion utilities, but still..

I keep a Window box around for burning. It makes me sad....

Before you reply that you need not burn anything other than ISO, just think of when Windows users come to you wanting a CD/DVD burned of a backup image (let's presume something legal, even! ;P), only to find out it's not something you can work with. Oh, how great those moments are great..!

"Sorry, I can't burn your CD of backed up data.. ask a Windows user!"

Re:A bit difficult, but: (3, Insightful)

hummassa (157160) | more than 9 years ago | (#10098437)

This most absolutely never happened to me. There is no win format my machine refused to read as of the current date. The contrary happened a lot: somebody brings a disc no-one can read, I dd_rescue it, fiddle a little with the image, and voila... all works again.

Re:A bit difficult, but: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10098932)

Is there a URL of that bit of code up somewhere? I'd be interested in how you managed direct-to-device command translation...

cd-text (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10097858)

I would like to know if there is any good linux soft that REALLY write the cd-text.
I tryed a lot (including k3b and others), and none worked.
Thanks

Global images (1)

vuvewux (792756) | more than 9 years ago | (#10097882)

Does anyone know of any Linux DVD burning software to burn global images? (Sonic RecordNow .gi)

Re:Global images (1)

Bert64 (520050) | more than 9 years ago | (#10098177)

Why exactly does every windows dvd/cd burning tool have to create its own propriatory format for the images? What's wrong with standard iso images?

Re:Global images (4, Insightful)

rusty0101 (565565) | more than 9 years ago | (#10098329)

Standard ISO images don't lock the user into the proprietary tools that the proprietary software company wants the end user to buy as add-ons or upgrades to the free copy of whatever they got with the DVD(+|_|+_)(R|RW) burner the user bought.

That isn't to say that the proprietary varient isn't a simple variation of the ISO image, (perhaps both an md5 and/or sha1 signature attached to the end of the image to assure integrity, or additional information the tool does not use in the actual burning, but may update each time the image is used, or even checked to see if the user is 'authorized' to burn this iso, say a hash of the authorization key for the product.

From what I have seen, all of the burners out there can use the ISO format to burn CDs and DVDs, but everyone seems to like vendor lock in for some reason, and may not provide the ability to create an ISO in the 'free' version included with drives.

Then again, what do I know.

-Rusty

Re:Global images (1)

tomstdenis (446163) | more than 9 years ago | (#10098416)

The actual format of the data on the CD or DVD is an ISO format [often with extensions like UDF and Joilet]. What the companies like roxio and sonic [etc] do is basically convert their format to ISO on the fly [which isn't a far stretch] while burning.

You are right though. It is just a vendor lock in issue. Which is why you don't use windows. Simple enough ;-)

Tom

Re:Global images (2, Informative)

ionpro (34327) | more than 9 years ago | (#10098458)

One reason that pops to mind is that some people are still running Windows XP on FAT32 volumes. Those people have a 4GB maximum file size limit, which may cause a problem for large DVD ISOs. This, of course, isn't a problem on NTFS, where the default maximum file size (dependant on cluster size) is something like 16 terabytes (minus 64KB).

Re:Global images (2, Insightful)

vuvewux (792756) | more than 9 years ago | (#10098502)

Because standard ISO images won't take audio tracks. They don't take Dreamcast images. They only take ISO9660 filesystems.

11th Commandment (5, Funny)

Apreche (239272) | more than 9 years ago | (#10097884)

Thou shalt not ask slashdot a question which can be answered by searching the gentoo forums.

Re:11th Commandment (2, Interesting)

October_30th (531777) | more than 9 years ago | (#10097943)

And why not?

I ask questions on public "forums" like /. or usenet because I really can't be bothered to figure out what niche forums I should be searching in the first place - especially when I am pretty sure that someone else on /. has already found the answer.

You don't have to answer any questions you don't feel like answering, but don't bash people for asking on-topic questions.

Re:11th Commandment (3, Insightful)

Taladar (717494) | more than 9 years ago | (#10098067)

So you can't be bothered to look through the top 5 search results in Google (which are pretty useful for this question if you use something like "linux dvd burn" as search string) but you can be bothered to search through hundreds of slashdot comments?

Re:11th Commandment (1)

October_30th (531777) | more than 9 years ago | (#10098153)

So you can't be bothered to look through the top 5 search results in Google (which are pretty useful for this question if you use something like "linux dvd burn" as search string)

Let's try googling for DVD burning linux free [google.com] .

"Pretty useful"? I don't think so. Do you see the solution there? I don't. Believe me, I do check Google first, but if the excerpts on the first search page don't show much promise I'm not going to go about clicking on the links.

search through hundreds of slashdot comments?

You ask a question on /. or usenet and see if anyone replies to your post. What's the problem?

I for one am sick and tired of the elitist RTFM or TTFG (try the fucking/friendly google) attitude. It's all about ego and making other people to re-invent the wheel.

Re:11th Commandment (2, Informative)

Minna Kirai (624281) | more than 9 years ago | (#10098638)

Let's try googling for DVD burning linux free

That's a poorly-crafted search term. Too many words in the query means fewer good responses. In this case, the word "free" is basically redundant with "linux", and "burning" is just extra-syllables onto "burn" (try to use the root form of words whenever possible). "Linux DVD Burn" would've been better.

But regardless of that, the page of results given by your query is indeed useful. Two of the results go to forum discussions on LinuxQuestions.org [linuxquestions.org], where a person has asked almost exactly the same question, and gotten almost exactly the same response ("Get K3B") as Asking Slashdot produced.

Re:11th Commandment (1)

EsbenMoseHansen (731150) | more than 9 years ago | (#10098671)

searching for "DVD burning linux" (excluding free) would get you such links as "DVD Editing/Authoring/Burning with Linux" and "How to burn a DVD-Video under Linux with mkisofs and dvdrecord".

So in this case, the asker-of-questions didn't do his homework. Searching for 5 variations on google is common courtesy. And yes, this includes clicking on those 5 links.

Also, when asking Linux question, searching his/hers distribution, a Wiki and perhaps linuxquestions.org would be in order, too.

In other words, do 1 hour worth of research before wasting 5 minutes of hundreds of people's time.

I don’t know (0, Flamebait)

Pan T. Hose (707794) | more than 9 years ago | (#10097935)

I don't know whether there is any free DVD recording software for Linux, but I am sure that "DVD Jon" [google.com] will gladly write it in no time, provided that doing so would violate copyright, DMCA and/or patent law.

Re:I don’t know (1)

cbrocious (764766) | more than 9 years ago | (#10097999)

Pretty sure he has better things to do. CSS is long since cracked, and there's still a lot of work to do involving iTunes/iTMS.

Re:I don’t know (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10098076)

Troll. There are a lot of tools to both create DVDs and burn them.

Since the post was rather questionable (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10097937)

let's ask another question that might be more interesting to the majority who seem to already be using K3B.
I heard that one of the big changes in the 2.6 kernel was that the SCSI emmulation was dropped for optical burning and that this should improve performance.
Well sure enough, my CD writing speeds went nuts. I had never burnt a CD at 20X using that PC which, granted was only a K62 500, but Nero had never gotten to speeds that high without using up the buffer in a few seconds. But with the 2.6 kernel I was getting 20X sustained without even touching the buffer. I was truly impressed.
BUT!
Unfortunately, the same thing didn't hold true for DVD. My DVD burner, which is the same machine, an 8X+/-RW CyQue AKA MET, that was giving me the insane CD writing speeds was still quite slow with DVDs.
This was disappointing because using the bundled Nero that had come with the burner I could get 4X easily even writing over the network and 8X was technically doable although it spent more time refilling the cache than writing. After seeing the CD write speed so high, I really hoped that the 2.6 kernel would give me equally fast DVD write speeds. Instead, my DVD write speeds are less than one speed which is quite slow.
However, I'm not saying Nero on Windows is better even though it is faster. I still use 2.6 kernel and K3B to write DVDs because Linux doesn't choke on filenames like Windows does and cheap media that fails in Nero still at least writes in K3B.
On this last note, I want to clarify that I've used many different media and all of them seem to give the same result. So, this isn't a cheap media related issue.
There's a better ask slashdot topic.

Re:Since the post was rather questionable (2, Informative)

waferhead (557795) | more than 9 years ago | (#10098073)

One word: DMA.

hdparm -iI will reveal all.

Also try a UDMA 66/100 (80 wire) cable.

Re:Since the post was rather questionable (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10098256)

Sounds interesting, but I tried this

hdparm -iI /dev/scd0

And I got "operation not supported on SCSI disks" Of course this is actually an IDE DVD writer, but it is mounted as /dev/scd0 at boot up. I assume I could re-mount it though, but when I mount it as iso9660 will I get this same error?
Probably I should try it first. But where I'm at, it's almost 5Am. I'll have to check back tomorrow.

Re:Since the post was rather questionable (1)

BillyBlaze (746775) | more than 9 years ago | (#10098374)

It's not actually mounted, that's just the device. What the error means is that you're still using IDE-SCSI emulation for that drive. Check to make sure you don't have anything like hdc=ide-scsi in your kernel's command line. Either check /etc/lilo.conf, and run lilo after making changes, or mount /boot and check /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst or grub.conf.

If you're using scsi emulation (4, Informative)

rsilvergun (571051) | more than 9 years ago | (#10098468)

You should already have DMA, since it's on by default in scsi emulation (I used to turn scsi emulation on for just that purpose). Still, you're better off w/o scsi emulation, it can do weird things with the device nodes. Check your lilo.conf or grub.conf for the line 'hdc=ide-scsi' and remove it.

If you want better speed, upgrade to the latest DVD+/-rw-tools [chalmers.se]. There's a ton of recently fixed speed bugs with newer drives. Install from source is easy. just make && make install as root and it'll copy itself in /usr/local where k3b will find it (you'll have to go in and tell k3b to use the new binaries). I couldn't set my speeds correctly until I upgraded, and was left choosing between 8x (not happening on my 4x media) or 1x. Once I upgrade everthing just worked.

I don't want to be crude, but.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10098352)

Why not upgrade you computer?
Anyway, sooner o later, you will do that. But seems that you need more computer power, NOW!

Re:I don't want to be crude, but.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10098493)

Yeah, why would you want a K62 500 that draws 15watts and does all you want when you could trade it in for a P4 that draws a hundred and twenty watts and offers little more.
Sorry but if you have enough RAM, you don't need a CPU faster than that for most things with the single exception of watching compressed video.

Media Recording in Linux (3, Informative)

Pan T. Hose (707794) | more than 9 years ago | (#10097976)

For any kind of Linux-related media recording whatsoever, you should definitely check out dyne:bolic [dynebolic.org], i.e. a free multimedia studio in a GNU/Linux live CD:

"dyne:bolic is shaped on the needs of media activists, artists and creatives, being a practical tool for multimedia production: you can manipulate and broadcast both sound and video with tools to record, edit, encode and stream, all using only free software.

"dyne:bolic is a GNU/Linux distribution simply running from a CD, without the need to install anything, able to recognize most of your devices and periferals: sound, video, TV, network cards, firewire, usb devices and more.

"It is optimized to run on slower computers, turning it into a full media station: the minimum you need is a pentium1 or k5 PC 64Mb RAM and IDE CD-ROM, or a modded XBOX game console--and if you have more than one, you can easily do clusters."

It is unquestionably invaluable to explore if you are not sure which software do you need to install and use on your own GNU/Linux system (e.g. Debian [debian.org] or Gentoo [gentoo.org]). I hope this helps.

There's nothing I can't do... (1)

Cytlid (95255) | more than 9 years ago | (#10097977)

...with tkDVD [freshmeat.net] and xcdroast [freshmeat.net]. Had these both on my system for quite some time. Most likely require dvd+rwtools and growisofs.

Not so fast! (4, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10097986)

Kernel 2.6.8 has effectively killed non root users from burning CDs and DVDs.

Re:Not so fast! (4, Informative)

PCM2 (4486) | more than 9 years ago | (#10098536)

Kernel 2.6.8 has effectively killed non root users from burning CDs and DVDs.
I had no idea what this guy was talking about either, until I read this. [plainblack.com]

UDF write support? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10097989)

I would really like to see packet-writing working properly on linux, so I can use my CD-Rs and CD-RW as a read-write medium like a floppy (an ever shrinking floppy in the CD-R case, but that's okay). similarly for DVDs.

UDF and packet writing would rock!

Re:UDF write support? (1)

unixmaster (573907) | more than 9 years ago | (#10098907)

Already done. See http://w1.894.telia.com/~u89404340/patches/packet/ 2.6/

Re:UDF write support? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10099047)

That's not "already done". It's not finished yet. They're over the hump, I guess, but that's still "being developed" - It's not fully in the mainstream kernel proper, the big distros haven't picked it up yet and integrated it (though fedora now has udf-read support out-of-box, at least) - it's certainly not yet to the point where one can just drag files to the window in a bog-standard KDE/GNOME desktop on a fresh Mandrake/SuSe/Fedora install as if the CD were a floppy...

And other architectures/platforms (1)

Bert64 (520050) | more than 9 years ago | (#10098094)

Well i always do my burning on an alphaserver, on which cdrecord-prodvd won't run.. Not because it couldn't compile, cdrecord compiles perfectly on it, but simply because the author doesnt see fit to produce a binary for my platform.

Dev=0,x,0 vs. dev=/dev/hdx (2, Interesting)

anagama (611277) | more than 9 years ago | (#10098161)

Recently I installed Suse 9.1 and discovered that "cdrecord -scanbus" no longer did the job it used to do. Took me a while to figure out I could use a "dev/hdx".

As I understand it, the author of cdrecord is livid over this issue. I've read a bit on mailing lists, but I still don't understand what the big deal is either way. Although somewhere I heard a comment that it may be a way for the author to make money off his DVD burning program ... I still don't get it.

Can anyone summarize what this fight is all about?

use -scanbus dev=ATA (2, Informative)

Hal XP (807364) | more than 9 years ago | (#10098988)

cdrecord -scanbus should still work. But with the new ide direct access (minus the ide-scsi emulation layer), you have to pass an argument to -scanbus to get the bus, etc, ID of your burner. To view the possible arguments, try cdrecord -scanbus dev=help. In my case to get the bus ID I use cdrecord -scanbus dev=ATA. To burn a DVD I use something like cdrecord dev=ATA:1,1,0 (which is functionally, I think, equivalent to dev=/dev/hdd).

That's unless SuSE did something really insane with their fork of cdrecord.

Re:Dev=0,x,0 vs. dev=/dev/hdx (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10099011)

I wish I knew the answer to this as well.

All I can say is the entire reason I went through the hassle of SCSI on my old system was just to avoid the hassle of ide-scsi with cdrecord. The entire ide-scsi flap seems to be centered around cdrecord and Joerg Schilling's stubborn refusal to accept reality and deviate from his beloved SCSI. Never mind the reality that almost no one carries optical SCSI devices anymore! (Save hard drives you can't find SCSI *anything* anymore!)

Schilling also has his own "make" program, IIRC, because he refuses to write a makefile that works with GNU's make. This was discussed on the amd64 gentoo forum recently.

Then there's cdrecord-prodvd and its annoying nagware license. Again, Schilling at work.

Then recently there was some flap on LKML, though I have not read it because, frankly, I don't know the best place to even look at LKML.

Heck, you can almost get a sense of his attitude from the wording of his website:
http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/glon e/employee s/joerg.schilling/private/cdrecord.html

I saw this problem brewing in 2000 when I got my SCSI CD burner--about the last one available. The problem is as long as Schilling is the only person with disc burning software we are all subject to his whims.

So bring on the free and open alternatives. growisofs, for example, is fantastic, although also dependent on mkisofs (which I think is also Schilling software, but at least it doesn't seem to suck yet). Take Schilling out of the loop and then we aren't 100% dependent on him.

from linux weekly news: Alternatives to cdrecord (3, Informative)

j1m+5n0w (749199) | more than 9 years ago | (#10098206)

Alternatives to cdrecord [lwn.net]
After last week's discussion of cdrecord, and concerns that recent releases of cdrecord may not be free software, we decided to take a look and see what alternatives exist for Linux users. The answer, unfortunately, is "not many." While there are quite a few front-ends for recording CDs under Linux, there are very few actual CD and DVD-burning applications available to Linux users. Applications like K3b, MP3Roaster, BashBurn and others all use cdrecord to burn CDs.

dvdrtools/dvdrecord (3, Informative)

kraada (300650) | more than 9 years ago | (#10098442)

Well, I don't know if this is the fault of dvdrtools/dvdrecord or just the fact that I bought generic, cheap disks . . . but 1/3 disks I burn are unreadable immediately thereafter (ie- after the burn is finished, mount the disk and md5sum the files). And some 6 months later I've found that almost every disk I ever burned won't mount right . . .
I can use readcd to get everything back with errors (~4000-5000 errors per disk), but it's really quite annoying.

So either it's my crappy disks (bought for about 44 cents a pop online in bulk) or it's dvdrecord. I've no idea which, though I'm leaning towards blaming the dvds (in which case, just be aware that cheap dvds aren't worth it! :)

Just my .44 worth of useless dvdness . . .

sh17!? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10098455)

which gathers pr0-homosexual going to continue,

Verifying issues with k3b (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10098549)

K3b works great for me when writing CD-R's, but I'm finding that DVD's of all sorts will write but then fail the md5sum verify that k3b performs. I'm trying to figure out if it's a hardware issue, a kernel issue, or related to autofs and scsi emulation. Has anyone else had experience with this?

Free DVD burning tools ... for Windows? (1)

julesh (229690) | more than 9 years ago | (#10098814)

OK, I'm serious here. I've been attempting to use ProDVD under Windows for the last 3 months, but Schilling doesn't seem to be responding to requests for new licenses (there isn't a public one for Windows like there is for Linux), so I've abandoned that idea. I'm currently using Nero, but I would much rather have a _free_ _command line_ tool that I can do this with, because then I can integrate it with DVDStyler and have author & burn in a single step. I can burn CDs just fine with cdrdao, but I haven't found anything equivalent for DVDs. Any suggestions?

Simple Answer - Lxdvdrip (3, Informative)

newdles (794384) | more than 9 years ago | (#10099060)

http://openfacts.berlios.de/index-en.phtml?title=l xdvdrip [berlios.de] This above link is where you can find the software. This link below is how you can use it to perfection. Lxdvdrip is quite literally configurable to a 1 click dvd backup software. You can set it up to where all you do is click an icon and you're done as it does everything else for you (if configured right and with a dvd r/w and a seperate dvd rom to read from unless you want to switch dvd's in the middle of the process). http://pcpitstop.ibforums.com/index.php?showtopic= 59445&hl=lxdvdrip [ibforums.com] Read this thread here and you'll find out how to configure it to work for you as well as delete all the temp files when done.
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