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Kevin Smith set for Clerks sequel

CmdrTaco posted more than 9 years ago | from the back-to-dick-and-fart-jokes dept.

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bckrispi writes "Director Kevin Smith has announced an official sequel to his indie cult classic, Clerks. Currently titled "The Passion of the Clerks", the film will pick up with Dante and Randal ten years after the original as our two heroes trudge through the malaise of their thirties. Jason Mewes, now out of rehab, is back on deck to play Jay across Smith's Silent Bob."

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Oh, come on! (4, Insightful)

ALeavitt (636946) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110317)

To me, this represents Kevin Smith taking the final plunge into sheer hackdom. None of his movies lived up to the expectations that naturally came about as a result of the edginess of the original Clerks, so Kevin Smith is kowtowing to his fans' demands rather than making good movies. Jersey Girl both sucked and bombed. Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back was just a series of in-jokes for the rabid Kevin Smith fans. And wasn't that supposed to be the last movie set in the "View Askewniverse" that contained movies like Clerks and Mallrats? To me, this just makes Smith sound a lot like George Lucas. "I'll never make another sequel in this series. Wait, what? Money? Oh, yeah, I'll do it for money. What do you guys want to see? More Jay, more Randall, and the origins of Boba Fett? Ok, here's exactly what you want! Now pay me!"

Budget (5, Informative)

mfh (56) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110353)

> None of his movies lived up to the expectations that naturally came about as a result of the edginess of the original Clerks

I think the budget is the reason. Clerks made it so the talent had to shine through because they had no money. Fans of Kevin Smith [viewaskew.com] will rejoice at this news. If you aren't a Kevin Smith fan, you could quickly become one if you happen to see An Evening With Kevin Smith [yahoo.com] , where Kevin does hours of Q&A at universities, covering a multitude of topics including his dealings with the religious nut Prince (~Symbol~). Another topic is the strange dealings Kevin had with the creator of one of the Batman movies who kept talking about a huge mechanical spider (who went on to make WWW).

It would be likely much funnier to see "The Passion of the Clerks" stay within the same budget as the first one ($27 k), rather than use up a large studio budget. It's not going to happen, but it would be pretty awesome if they kept the budget low enough to let the talent and quirkiness shine through.

Re:Budget (3, Informative)

MrP- (45616) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110564)

"It would be likely much funnier to see "The Passion of the Clerks" stay within the same budget as the first one ($27 k), rather than use up a large studio budget. It's not going to happen, but it would be pretty awesome if they kept the budget low enough to let the talent and quirkiness shine through."

From the AP article:

""I'm sure there will be naysayers who say, 'Oh my God, it's an opportunistic grab at a buck,' but it's not. We're doing it for nothing," Smith said. "We're going to do it insanely inexpensively. The budget will be somewhere between 250 grand and $5 million.""

How relevent (1, Insightful)

essreenim (647659) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110374)

Clerks sequel : (is to) /. :: (as is)
pigs : manned flight

I for one personally welcome our new clerk overlords.

Re:Oh, come on! (2, Interesting)

Stevyn (691306) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110389)

I don't think his films were ever put up on a pedestal by him. He's got a bunch of die hard fans who propped his reputation up. I love his movies and I think he's a great writer and director when it comes to comedy. But you're right, "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back" was all inside jokes. If I hadn't seen the 4 previous movies he did, I doubt I'd get half the jokes in that movie.

Re:Oh, come on! (5, Informative)

falcon5768 (629591) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110390)

Actually if you knew ANYTHING.... the movie is more something for Jay.... Smith promiced him one last Jay and Silent Bob movie if he cleaned up his act and straightened up... a year later, hes delivering. Hes not really doing it for the money (the guy is loaded you know, not just cause of his moives, but from his stores and from his comic books) hes doing it more for himself, Jay, and the other original players who are all on board to do it.... Hes ALSO been dropping hints about it for over a year now, ever since the 10th aniversary edition of Clerks was planned.... so hes not just jumping into this.

Re:Oh, come on! (-1, Troll)

TheLittleJetson (669035) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110462)

yeah, for all the worshiping my generation seems to do of the guy, i really found most of his movies pretty boring. clerks especially: it just sucked. jay and silent bob aren't really that funny, certainly not enough for 3 movies or whatever... let me put it this way: i won't even *download* this movie.

Re:Oh, come on! (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10110583)

You're just thowing good karma away. Talking trash about Jay & Silent Bob on Slashdot.. What are you thinking man. Conform damnit.

Re:Oh, come on! (4, Insightful)

Jhon (241832) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110470)

Hey! I liked Jersey Girl! Sure it was sappy, but hey -- I'm about the same age as Smith. I was able to relate to what he thought was important/funny way-back when, and I was able to relate to what he thought was important/funny some 10 years later with Jesery Girl.

The idea of a Clerks sequal is both cool and scary at the same time.

Re:Oh, come on! (5, Insightful)

Elwood P Dowd (16933) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110533)

To me, this represents Kevin Smith taking the final plunge into sheer hackdom.

Whatever. It's not like Kevin Smith (or most of the other folks that get this criticism) ever pretended to anything other than hackdom. He wanted to make movies that entertained people, & he wants to get paid. I swear, someday someone's going to say that Adam Sandler, or Affleck & Damon "sold out" and I'm going to spontaneously combust in frustration. It can't be "selling out" if their original goal was popular success & money.

Re:Oh, come on! (3, Insightful)

asoap (740625) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110574)

How was Clerks edgey? Watch it again, it is pure toilet humor.

"Are you wanting to make fuck... BERZERKER!!!!"

Common.. Kevin Smith's work is toilet humor and mixed in with social commentary. Jersey Girl was different. It was meant to be a cute movie. It's a bloody romantic comedy/drama. Don't be bitter because you watched the movie expecting mall rats, and got a "cute" movie.

I get annoyed when people bitch about how people like George Lucas keeps on peddeling old shit over and over again, but when he does something different, IE. Jersey Girl. People then still bitch.

Personally my favourite movie of Kevin Smith's is Dogma. I love it how he plays with Catholicisim. What's cool about Dogma was that Kevin Smith was presenting the Human side of the bible. The main idea behind it was that Jesus at one point in time turned to one of his disciples and said "Hey Buddy, pull my finger!"

As a Catholic who has parents that are kinda nutty about religion, I really liked the movie. So maybe he made that movie for me and not you. I always appreciated the Golgotha monster.

When you boil down Clerks, Mall Rats, Dogma, and Jay and Silent Bob strike back. They are all based on dick and fart jokes, plain and simple. So it really erks me when people put Clerks on this pedistal. The movies all use the same formula.

If you consider this the final plunge into "hackdom". Then I would say that clerks was his final plunge into hackdom, and he's only been swimming around in it for 10 years.

-Derek

Kevin Smith's message to you and yours (5, Funny)

krog (25663) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110582)

"All you motherfuckers are gonna pay, You are the ones who are the ball-lickers. We're gonna fuck your mothers while you watch and cry like little bitches. Once we get to Slashdot and find those karma-whore fucks who are talking shit, we're gonna make 'em eat our shit, then shit out our shit, then eat their shit which is made up of our shit that we made 'em eat. Then you're all fucking next."

Thirty-Seven?! (5, Funny)

romper (47937) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110318)

"Try not to suck any dick on the way out of the parking lot!"
--Dante

More quotes [prolix.nu] .

Re:Thirty-Seven?! (4, Funny)

MalaclypseTheYounger (726934) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110356)

Hey, you.. get back here...

Re:Thirty-Seven?! (1)

romper (47937) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110375)

I was waiting for that reply. =)

Three minutes... Not bad!

Re:Thirty-Seven?! (4, Funny)

cb8100 (682693) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110380)

"Did he just say 'making fuck'?"

Re:Thirty-Seven?! (2, Funny)

Cocoronixx (551128) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110453)

I'm not even supposed to be here today!

Re:Thirty-Seven?! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10110471)

Um, that page of quotes you linked to? Curious, when you scroll down a bit you see:

Hermaphadidic porn. Starlets with both organs. You should see the box, beautiful chicks with dicks that put mine to shame.
- Randal, "Clerks" ( $ )


The $ is a link with alt text "Purchase this through Amazon.com". Why that specific quote, I wonder?

Crazy! (0, Offtopic)

Chess_the_cat (653159) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110320)

First I see the story "Open Xchange Server Source-code Released" on AICN and now this.

Barely Clerkin? (4, Insightful)

andyrut (300890) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110323)

Currently titled "The Passion of the Clerks"

At the end of one of Kevin Smith's movies, it stated that the title of the Clerks sequel would be Clerks 2: Barely Clerkin'. Guess they decided not to stick with that.

I really enjoyed the format and bad acting in the original Clerks ("You ever notice that all the prices end in nine? Damn, that's eerie."). I hope the sequel returns to Smith's roots a bit, instead of being some highly-produced lets-see-how-many-stars-we-can-put-in-this-flick movie like his recent ones.

Re:Barely Clerkin? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10110366)

At the end of one of Kevin Smith's movies, it stated that the title of the Clerks sequel would be Clerks 2: Barely Clerkin'.

It was at the end of Dogma, and the title was supposed to be "Still Clerkin"

Re:Barely Clerkin? (2, Informative)

MrP- (45616) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110545)

Actually, If I remember correctly, it's "Clerks 2: Hardly Clerkin"

Re:Barely Clerkin? (2, Insightful)

kid-noodle (669957) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110406)

He's on the low budget bit of his cycle again, he makes a low budget hit (Clerks), then a huge budget flop (Mallrats), then gets busted down to a low budget again (Amy), so on ad infinitum. So he's back to doing this one on about $500,000 (he says), after mistakenly casting J-lo and Affleck.

And I thought it was Clerks 2: Hardly Clerkin'?

I feel a bit sorry for him really - he will never escape Jay & Bob. Just look what happens when he tries (and after he swore to never make another one in the Jersey series..)

Re:Barely Clerkin? (4, Interesting)

el-spectre (668104) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110561)

True, altho I have heard him say that he toled Mewes that if he got clean, he'd write another movie as a thank you. Mewes has been clean for a coupla years now, so it's time to pay up.

Re:Barely Clerkin? (3, Funny)

gbsmith (68154) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110469)

Clerks 2: Electric Boogaloo

Re:Barely Clerkin? (1)

MrP- (45616) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110516)

He has stated that the most this movie will cost is $5 million, but it may be as cheap as like $270,000

He has also stated the biggest stars in the movie will be Brian O'Halloran (Dante Hicks), Jeff Anderson (Randal Graves), and Jason Mewes (Jay)

J&SB:SB was full of celebs and references to his past movies because it was supposed to be the last of the jersey "trilogy" and he wanted to have fun with it. But Clerks 2 won't be like that.

Re:Barely Clerkin? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10110557)

but that was the point of the last movie.

people seem to miss that.

he wasnt trying to pass off a movie by increasingthe number of stars.

his point was to put as many stars in it to make it cheesy and fun.

Awesome! (5, Funny)

Limburgher (523006) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110327)

Just don't accidentally suck any dick on the way to the theater! :)

Re:Awesome! (3, Insightful)

applemasker (694059) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110415)

If you haven't integrated Clerks into your personal lexicon, you have no business moderating here. Parent is not offtopic if you've seen the movie.

In a row?

*BSD is dying (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10110330)

It is official; Netcraft confirms: *BSD is dying

One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered *BSD community when IDC confirmed that *BSD market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last [samag.com] in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.

You don't need to be a Kreskin [amazingkreskin.com] to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood.

FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time FreeBSD developers Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD is dying.

Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.

Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.

All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS dilettante dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.

Fact: *BSD is dying

I know I'm on the outside, (0, Troll)

BillFarber (641417) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110332)

but this movie ranks as one of the most boring movies ever. Right up there with Chariots of Fire.

Re:I know I'm on the outside, (1)

stratjakt (596332) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110542)

I agree with the poster, and expand it to include Smith's entire body of work.

I know Comedy Central airs Dogma 7 times a day, and I've yet to be able to sit through more than any 5 minutes at a time.

Usually I'll stop when I see George Carlin on the screen while flipping channels, then continue on as soon as it cuts to Damon and Afleck boring the fuck out of me with one of their "witty" conversations.

mewes is back (1)

crypt0shite (770604) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110334)

all is right with the world

Re:mewes is back (1)

RudyG13 (793574) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110456)

I had heard a nasty rumor that he had OD'd and died, but I guess it's nice to hear that he was just in rehab....given the two things....I suppose.

Um... (-1, Offtopic)

brainsic (206429) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110338)

Snoochie Boochies?

Re:Um... (5, Funny)

darth_MALL (657218) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110433)

OH now that's just mean. Mallrats, although a humorous look at nerddom, corrupted the original Jay we all knew and loved from clerks. Jay #1 uttered some of the funniest lines in cinematic history. " Shit yeah, Silent Bob...You know you're cute as hell. I like to take you, suck you, line up three other guys and make like a circus seal. Ya, Fuckin Faggot! I hate guys...I love WOMEN!" Pure genius. :-P

WooHoo (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10110340)

First post

And finally sounds like Kevin Smith will be going back to his roots and making a less $$$ based film...

Never say Never... (3, Interesting)

slusich (684826) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110341)

Kevin Smith had said that he'd never revisit the world of Jay and Silent Bob after he finished shooting "Strike Back". I'm really glad he reconsidered. This'll be a movie worth seeing. Hopefully Mewes can stay out of rehab/jail long enough to shoot it.

You sure thats what he said? (1)

tgd (2822) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110398)

I thought he said they would never play Jay and Silent Bob again, not that they'd never visit that world.

But I haven't had any coffee today, so I may be remembering wrong.

Re:You sure thats what he said? (5, Interesting)

MrP- (45616) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110490)

He said that.

In fact, after the credits for Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back, God (alanis morissette) closes the jersey "trilogy" book

I think what happened is Jersey Girl didn't do so well, so he's scared to do big budget movies now. He's thinking of dropping out as director of The Green Hornet for example.

At the end of Dogma he said there would a Clerks 2 (called "Hardly Clerkin"), but that turned into J&SB:SB.

All I know is, I could care less for the reasons, I'm just so happy there will be a Clerks 2

I wonder if it'll continue some plot threads from the animated series, that would be cool.

Re:You sure thats what he said? (1)

slusich (684826) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110529)

At the end of "Strike Back" they literally close the book on the "Askewniverse". The commentary tracks, as well as "An Evening with Kevin Smith" all have Kevin saying that he would never do another movie within that realm.

Man... (3, Funny)

kjones692 (805101) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110344)

Watching this movie is gonna be like having sex with a dead guy. (kidding, Clerks is awesome)

job security (4, Funny)

sexygirl.jpg.vbs (777027) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110350)

ten years later and still a clerk....must be nice to have that kind of job security

Re:job security (1)

sexygirl.jpg.vbs (777027) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110402)

</"Office Space" ripoff>

Re:job security (1)

DaHat (247651) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110426)

If you aim low there's no limit to how long you can last.

Years ago when I worked at a McDonalds (served a total of 4 years) I worked with many who'd been there for 15+ years, and only a couple of them had any sense to em.

Re:job security (4, Funny)

lothar97 (768215) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110472)

Since most of these jobs cannot be outsourced, they've been "insourced," bringing the Indians to the US to work as clerks.

Re:job security (1)

grendelkhan (168481) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110548)

And what's this I hear about you having problems with your inventory reports?

What about Ramzi? (2, Funny)

tkr2099 (656707) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110351)

What role is Ramzi (Hacking with Ramzi) gonna play???

Re:What about Ramzi? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10110430)

That's 'The Broken', not Clerks.

But Ramzi is the ShizNit!

Re:What about Ramzi? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10110476)

Kevin is that you?

oh yeah.... this makes sense (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10110357)

just what we need is more drivel taking up the tiem and money better spent elsewhere.

What ever happened to "Jersey Girl"? (3, Insightful)

Stevyn (691306) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110358)

I've always been a huge fan of Kevin Smith's movies. I read that "Jersey Girl" was going to be his first "real" movie that he hoped would be spectacular and wow the critics. It wasn't, however, so I guess this means he's going back to what he knows best and everybody loves...dick and fart jokes.

Clerks is a great movie for anyone who hasn't already seen it. If you've ever worked in a convenience or video store, you'll laugh your ass off.

Re:What ever happened to "Jersey Girl"? (2, Interesting)

lothar97 (768215) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110438)

Essentially this happened [fact-index.com]

It did make $25,266,129 source [the-numbers.com] , which is better than Gigli (US Gross, $6,087,542, Production Budget $54,000,000). Sure it's not a Kevin Smith movie, but it's got the same goofy actors. source [the-numbers.com]

Re:What ever happened to "Jersey Girl"? (4, Funny)

Lord Omlette (124579) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110491)

Wait wait, I thought it wasn't for critics [penny-arcade.com] .

I'm very disappointed. (5, Insightful)

garcia (6573) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110361)

You know, Kevin Smith *was* a great movie masterpiece creator until recently. I don't know if it is because of his direct link to Bennifer, or that he has just decided to sell out after 10 years, or that Jay and Silent Bob made the jerk-off teens thrilled with his work, but I am overly disappointed with the news of this movie being made.

It's bad enough that we have 5 or 6 different DVDs for every movie ever made (Digitally Enhanced, Collectors Edition, Gold Edition, Platinum Edition, Boxed Platinum, ad nauseum) but do we really need to make a fucking sequel of every god damn movie that found even partial success either in the theatre or cult/home markets? Baby Geniuses 2 (I didn't even know this movie had a first installment but I was informed that the first one was terrible) comes out and they wonder why a movie shelved for two years (Hero) rakes in unexpected dollars and a lame fucking sequel sucks it up with 3.3 million total?

Let me guess the pirates are to blame for the theft of money AND decent movies. They are the reasons we have to make duplicate copies of everything playing off the same old lines that the first one had and only adding jokes relating to their ages in the next? Baby Geniuses 4, BG's Grandchildren go to Montessori?

I loved Clerks and it was the first movie I seriously remember being sore from laughter after seeing. I think I have watched it more than any other movie I don't own. Do we really need its status as a cult classic scarred by some overpriced, overhyped, overaged wannabe sequel? If he really loves the fanbase he created he would listen to us on this one. It's a bad idea for all those involved, seriously.

I'm very disappointed-Swipe the good stuff. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10110432)

"Let me guess the pirates are to blame for the theft of money AND decent movies. They are the reasons we have to make duplicate copies of everything playing off the same old lines that the first one had and only adding jokes relating to their ages in the next? Baby Geniuses 4, BG's Grandchildren go to Montessori?"

Oh I don't know. Bad movies just may put an end to piracy. Funny it hasn't worked for music though.

Re:I'm very disappointed. (5, Informative)

garcia (6573) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110536)

From this [viewaskew.com] forum post by Kevin:

There are gonna be lots of folks expressing disappointment or downright hostility with the idea of this movie. Let 'em vent. If it's all that bad, Xtian will just sweep it off the board. But the last thing I'm interested in is opinions on what I'm doing this early in the process, if at all. The beauty of making that first flick was being able to do it in a vacuum. Granted, I could've kept my mouth shut about it 'til we were done shooting; but with "Clerks X" coming out, it just felt right to share. Regardless - I don't want folks running here with reports of what's being said about the idea of this film at other boards. Don't waste your/my time with the braying of the jackasses. There's not even a movie to bray about yet. Once there is, if you still still feel the need to tell me what some random, knuckle-headed Talk Backer has to say about the finished product, then God bless. But until then, leave it in the locker room.

Well since there are no girls on Slashdot I'll consider this the "locker room".

If it's not terribly related to Clerks other than the cast why can't you come up with some other completely different name for it? Why must it hang on the success of the first one?

How about you do it on a shoestring budget again? You know the studios will pick it up and they will be especially thrilled if they don't have to shell out millions to the pirates.

As for the rest of his comment I will keep quiet (as he asks) until I see the final result.

Learning (1)

StevenHenderson (806391) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110362)

Guess you have to screw up [sick-boy.com] a little to realize it's just best to stick with what works. :)

Again? (5, Funny)

UnknowingFool (672806) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110364)

Am I missing something? I thought I already saw the sequel. It was called Mall Rats . . . No, Chasing Amy . . . No, wait, it was called Dogma. Maybe Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back? I'm so confused.

Re:Again? (1)

arudloff (564805) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110431)

All the movies take place in the same general region, so it makes since for the characters to know the same circles of people, but this is a bit different. This is a story of what happened to the Clerks themselves after the movie ended.. Neither of the actors are present in any of the other movies outside of minor cameos if I'm not mistaken..

Viva la daunte!

Re:Again? (1)

falcon5768 (629591) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110474)

no infact they are only mentioned once or twice in all of the movies, and infact ONLY make a cameo as the Clerks characters in Strikes Back... They played other characters in other movies though

Re:Again? (5, Informative)

falcon5768 (629591) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110449)

no they where all in the same universe, but not sequals per se. Clerks always advertised a clerks two... as did Mallrats advertise Dogma as its sequal (which infact it wasnt, chaising amy cam after) what it boiled down to was Smith wrote a lot of the screenplays at the same time, but had to build up a rep to put out the one he really wanted to (Dogma) due to its religious nature

Re:Again? (1)

kid-noodle (669957) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110480)

Ok, I know that was meant to be funny. But its wrong on.. so many counts.

All the 'Jersey' films feature Jay & Bob, however only in Dogma and J&SBSB are they lead characters - the movies aren't about Jay & Bob except in the sense that Star Wars is actually about the droids.

Clerks 2 is about Dante & Randal, Jay & Bob just happen to be in it.

Not only that, but Kevin says that not all the films actually occur on the same plane of reality (Mall Rats for example).

The films are all set in broadly the same place, and often have characters from the other films, but none of them are sequels.

Re:Again? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10110576)

Not only that, but Kevin says that not all the films actually occur on the same plane of reality (Mall Rats for example).

Ah, but then how do you explain the Jay & Silent Bob comicbook series (written by Kevin Smith), which attempted to explain how J&SB got from Mall Rats to Chasing Amy to Dogma? They start out staying in the house of the girl who was researching sex by having sex, then make their way around to different places, stopping in to give Affleck advice about "Chasing Amy", when they leave and try to get to that place where Sixteen Candles and other John Hughes films took place - because no one is selling w**d in those movies, so it's a sure market - end up in McHenry, Illinois, where they wait to try and pick up "loose women" at the abortion clinic. Enter hockey demons. Enter Jay & Silent Bob. And we have Dogma.

So I think at least those three films - Mall Rats, Chasing Amy, and Dogma - are all strongly linked, and could be considered chronological sequels.

Clerks translated into /. (5, Funny)

dnaboy (569188) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110367)

From the movie... People say crazy shit during sex. One time I called this girl "Mom."

Or, among slashdot readers, I once called this computer "girlfriend"...

A classic piece of scriptwriting. (5, Funny)

The I Shing (700142) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110369)

Apart from the "parking lot" quote, my favorite line was:

Dante (furious): 37! My girlfriend sucked 37 dicks!

Customer: In a row?

I still chuckle at that bit ten years later.

Jay and Silent Bob?!? (1, Interesting)

natron 2.0 (615149) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110378)

I thought Kevin Smith stated the "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back" was to be the last time those characters (Jay and Silent Bob) where to be seen in a film. I guess money will make you do funny things. I wonder if this film will be in black and white as well.

Good story (1)

nuggz (69912) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110443)

Things change, but I think this is more about a good story or at least a potetially thought provoking topic.

I think when you get attached to a character, you wonder what happens next.

The other thing is lots of people around 30 (like me) are wondering what have I done with my life and where am I going. This is a good way to talk about the question, with existing characters in the same situation.

From the horse's mouth (5, Informative)

sane? (179855) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110379)

Why not go to the source [viewaskew.com] , rather than CNN, on this one.

Re:From the horse's mouth (1)

RudyG13 (793574) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110538)

No kidding, everyone liked clerks, and another done in the same style would be a refreshing addition. Heck, everyone was [i]ticked[/i] at Kevin Smith when he said he wasn't going to make another clerks universe movie. Now that he has, people are mad he went back on what he said.

No pleasing some people I guess.

Ob. Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back... (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10110381)

Jay: All you motherfuckers are gonna pay. You are the ones who are the ball-lickers. We're gonna fuck your mothers while you watch and cry like little bitches. Once we get to Hollywood and find those Miramax fucks who are making that movie, we're gonna make 'em eat our shit, then shit out our shit, then eat their shit which is made up of our shit that we made 'em eat. Then you're all you motherfucks are next. Love, Jay and Silent Bob.

watch? (2, Funny)

diottam (442530) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110383)

I assure you, I will watch this film.

Aramaic (4, Funny)

MikeMacK (788889) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110384)

"The Passion of the Clerks"

And I understand it will be filmed entirely in Aramaic.

Jersey accent (1)

lothar97 (768215) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110508)

Actually, they're going to not tone down the Jersey accent this time- so it will be almost as incomprehenisble as Aramaic.

Vogue. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10110386)

I predict the sequal will not look like a $27,000 movie. Just look at what success did to the look of Star Wars.

Re:Vogue. (1)

natron 2.0 (615149) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110428)

Kevin Smith stated in the interview that he will keep it less than $5 million. Talk about inflation!

Think it Will Be Good (5, Funny)

puto (533470) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110397)

When I first saw this I was going to think he was trying to make a quick buck.

Then I thought about Kevin Smith. And I think he just going to make a movie with some friends, and have a good time. You never can go home, but you can sure as hell visit.

Things I would like to see in the movie.

1. Jays cussing Olaf with his Berserker song become a star.
2. Randall come out of the closet.
3. Randall as Dantes boss.
4. Silent Bob having a love Child with Kaitleen bree.
5. Another Hockey game on the roof" any balls down there, BOUT THE BIGGEST PAIR YOU WILL EVER SEE"
6. What number of dicks Dantes ex is actually on now.

Puto

He should rather finish his comics... (3, Insightful)

tendram (772505) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110401)

How long are Daredevil: Target and Spider-Man and Black Cat overdue now? 2 Years?

Re:He should rather finish his comics... (1)

falcon5768 (629591) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110521)

Hey it took Joss Whedon 3 to finish Fray.... i think it goes along with people who do TV and who write comics

Indie? (-1, Troll)

loqi (754476) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110420)

indie cult classic

Wait. Wait.
Cult: Definitely
Classic: I'll give you that, with cult tacked on.
Indie: no???

I know that this guy [songhole.org] is way indier than Smith.

Re:Indie? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10110450)

you're probably making some corny joke but i dont feel like listening to an mp3 to find out..

but clerks WAS indie.. it was made for $27,000 charged on kevins credit cards with kevins college buddy as producer.

Weeeyaa! First Post! Oh, you mean I'm not? (1)

huchida (764848) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110440)

I'm not particularly a fan, but I say kudos to Kevin Smith for returning to his roots. Let's hope he hasn't forgotten them. I did like Clerks, but his movies got (IMHO) substanially worse as they went along. Probably in direct proportion to the budget, star power and expectations he was given.

But then, he's not the only director recently to have a great first movie and then never live up to the promise again (though at least Smith's retain his trademark style, love it or don't... Others are all to quick to go as mainstream as they can.) I firmly believe it takes a good director years and a string of low budget, yet artistically free films to become great and realize their promise (look at Woody Allen, Martin Scorcese...)

Disturbed by This (1, Redundant)

pete-classic (75983) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110445)

I'm a huge Kevin Smith fan.

He said that Jay and Silent Bob wouldn't be back. That he didn't want to be Pauly Shore.

What the fuck?

Maybe his next film should be about a director who does a really fresh, raw movie. Follows it up with some meaningful, personal movies (I'm ignoring "Mallrats"), and then turns into the thing he fears most.

I'd pay to see that.

-Peter

He'll do a Lucas. (5, Funny)

Mateito (746185) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110461)

In the new version, Dante shoots first.

(If this makes no sense, look for the original "alternate" ending to Clerks.)

"Quick buck"?! (4, Insightful)

Anita Coney (648748) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110463)

How exactly do you make quick money on a sequel to a movie that barely made any money?!

A good example of making quick money in movies is the new AvP movie. You start with a movie that made lots of money. You then create a cheap sequel. Fans of the first will see it even though they know it'll be crap. And because it was made cheaply, it will profit regardless.

Making a sequel out of Clerks is a HUGE monetary risk. Considering that hardly anyone has seen the original, the sequel will have to make money on is own merit.

Re:"Quick buck"?! (1)

psyconaut (228947) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110534)

"...HUGE monetary risk"

Which is why the budget will only be $250,000 to $5,000,000. Which is peanuts for movies today, as we all know. Heck, craft services on some movies cost more than $250k ;-)

-psy

Re:"Quick buck"?! (1)

Erik Hollensbe (808) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110579)

AvP was a comic book, then a video game before the movie rights were even penned. And even that was many moons ago.

They could have done a lot better, heck, they certainly had the time to do it.

oh great, more screwing dead guys (1)

joeldg (518249) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110473)

come on..
you can't top that...
really..

Wow (1)

EmperorKagato (689705) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110488)

I know i'm looking forward to the sequal to Clerks. Yet, I seem more excited about the buzz about the Green Hornet. I believe that would be a chance for Kevin Smith to hit a larger market. Well, maybe not. Not that many people know about the Green Hornet.

Huh (4, Insightful)

stratjakt (596332) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110500)

I thought Mall Rats, Dogma and Jay and Silent Bob strike back were all "sequels" to Clerks.

Kevin Smith is a one-trick pony whos films get less and less impressive each time out.

Clerks wasn't a great movie, IMO, it just sort of struck one of those cult chords. I know a lot of my friends were going on about it like it was genious or something, myself I thought it was just a cheap indy film with a handful of funny moments.

I'd imagine those who were so in love with it 10 years ago feelings have faded somewhat. Kind of like the Star Wars movies. The fans grew up, got too old to give a shit about SW anymore, and the younger kids couldn't give a shit or get into it at all.

I wouldn't call Rocky Horror Picture Show a great movie either, but it's obviously a cult hit with a lot of legs left in it. But going to the show in drag on Hallowe'en and throwing toast at the bride is one thing. Paying 10 bucks to see the 10-year-delayed (cash grab) sequel is another.

I dunno. Smith, Damon and Affleck, these guys are supposed to be so young and hip and scary talented that they're going to take over Hollywood and change cinema forever. I really don't see where all the talent is, myself. Throw Tarantino on that list too. Pulp Fiction was his only flick I can say I really enjoyed watching.

Bong! (2)

theJerk242 (778433) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110509)

Jason Mewes, now out of rehab, is back on deck to play Jay across Smith's Silent Bob.

Bonnnnng!

Ho hum (1, Troll)

vegasbright (773629) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110530)

If it will be anything like jay and silent bob strikes back, god help us.

back to basics after a flop (3, Interesting)

mcguyver (589810) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110531)

Usually people will go back to a guaranteed success after a failure. Kevin Smith does Jersey Girl, comes out with Clerks 2. I'm not a big enough movie buff to comment on other examples but I'm sure they exist in movies such as Jurassic Park 3 and the Batman series. This type of thinking is bringing us such greats as the Star Wars prequals and Indiana Jones 4.

JASON MEWES IN REHAB?! (4, Funny)

DumbWhiteGuy777 (654327) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110535)

Surely you jest. No way would he would indulge in illegal goods.

Million Dollar Question (5, Interesting)

mconeone (765767) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110553)

Will it still be in black & white?

So, um (4, Interesting)

mcc (14761) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110554)

Not to give any spoilers or anything, but does this mean that the Clerks "original ending" (it's provided on the DVD as a deleted scene) is now officially non-canon?

(I'M NOT EVEN SUPPOSED TO BE HERE TODAY...)

Re:So, um (1)

MrP- (45616) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110588)

As soon as he cut it from the theatrical release it official became non-canon.. and if that wasn't proof enough.. then came the Clerks animated series.. Dante was one of the characters, so more proof that scene never happened.

The passion of Tupac! (1)

TXP (592446) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110562)

I don't think this movie can possibly be better then bent tv's news reel on the "The passion of Tupac". http://www.flashplayer.com/animation/emptvnews.htm l

More Jan and Silent Bob!? (1)

LilMikey (615759) | more than 9 years ago | (#10110569)

I thought in the Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back DVD extra material Kevin Smith was retiring the characters? Not that I'm disappointed.
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