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Apple Launches iTunes Affiliate Program

pudge posted more than 9 years ago | from the it's-about-time dept.

Media (Apple) 206

An anonymous user writes, "Apple has launched an affiliate program for their iTunes music store that earns participants 5% commission. Affiliates can link directly to songs, albums, and artists, as well as apply to the Apple Store affiliate program to sell hardware. It costs nothing to join and people that sign up prior to September 15 can win one of five free iPod minis. Apple has also assembled a handy FAQ."

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206 comments

fp (-1, Offtopic)

pinqkandi (189618) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136039)

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Re:fp (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10136058)

Re:fp (-1, Offtopic)

pinqkandi (189618) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136095)

and that's why i have a seperate email for forums :-)

Re:fp (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10136165)

open telnet server needs eploiting:

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GNAA (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10136043)

Says fuck you because I got 20 gmail accounts of fark, assholes :) :) WOOT LEET

So... (2, Interesting)

odano (735445) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136044)

This is basically a 5% discount on all iTunes music?

Re:So... (5, Informative)

vijayiyer (728590) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136057)

Note that they don't pay you until you've accumulated $25 in commission, meaning you don't get anything until there are 506 purchases made.

Re:So... (1)

MedHead (795006) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136088)

If you earn more than $25 in a given month, you'll receive a check about 45 days after the end of that month. If your earnings total less than $25, then you will receive a check after the end of the following month in which your total earnings reach $25.

http://www.apple.com/itunes/affiliates/faq.html [apple.com]

It does seem a little vague... I can't be sure if it means 25 songs, or $25 in commission.

Re:So... (1)

photonagon (721776) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136126)

If you earn more than $25 in a given month

Seems pretty clear to me, earning meaning $25 you earned from 5% of each 99c song, as opposed to selling or referring $25 in sales for Apple.

Besides, waiting until you earn $1.25 (5% of $25) still seems like too little to cut a check and send it.

Re:So... (1)

gl4ss (559668) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136272)

has to be 25$ of commission.

no point in paying 1.25$ size..

Re:So... (1)

Joey Patterson (547891) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136247)

you don't get anything until there are 506 purchases made.

Well, then, someone should really get on the stick and register themselves as an affiliate for www.slashdot.org [slashdot.org] . Then they could begin posting iTMS links in their comments and sigs in hopes that people click on them to buy things. A newfangled troll? Perhaps, but a profitable one nonetheless.

Down with GNAA and Goatse... Bring on Madonna and Britney!

Re:So... (1)

Bullet-Dodger (630107) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136551)

Well, then, someone should really get on the stick and register themselves as an affiliate for www.slashdot.org. Then they could begin posting iTMS links in their comments and sigs in hopes that people click on them to buy things. A newfangled troll? Perhaps, but a profitable one nonetheless.

Well, not really newfangled; People have been doing the same thing with the Amazon referrer program for ages.

Re:So... (5, Informative)

suckmysav (763172) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136069)

" This is basically a 5% discount on all iTunes music?"

Well, if you purchased the music for yourself and you bought over a thousand songs each month then I guess it would be, yes.

FIn most cases though, I expect it would represent a 5% kickback to any site owner who could generate 1000 clickthrus that culminate in a purchase, which is quite a bit different.

Re:So... (1, Insightful)

gl4ss (559668) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136637)

so what you're saying is that the $ won't accumulate over months, that you have to hit that 25$ monthly payment limit or apple gets to keep the money?

Re:So... (5, Informative)

Neko-kun (750955) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136122)

No, It means that you, the re-seller, gets a five percent cut out of every song you sell.

In other words, Apple is allowing webmasters to have links on their websites that when a visitor clicks on it, iTunes will open up to the album page ready for the visitor to buy it.

Say for example,

"Hey peeps, I was listening to this one album the other day, and it was really nice. if you want to buy it so you can share my amazement, click here [apple.com] "

All an affiliate would be doing would be reffering more would-be customers to the iTMS.

Re:So... (2, Interesting)

MedHead (795006) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136156)

2.2. Affiliate agrees not to make any representations, warranties or other statements concerning Apple, Apple's site, any of Apple's products or services, or Apple's site policies, except as expressly authorized by the Engagement.

http://www.apple.com/itunes/affiliates/terms.html [apple.com]

Would anyone mind explaining this to me? I'm not a lawyer, so I can't be sure... but from what I can see, doesn't this mean that as an affiliate, we are not allowed to say we like or dislike a song to which is being linked?

Re:So... (4, Informative)

aka-ed (459608) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136184)

No, it means that an affiliate cannot (for instance) make statements that might be construed as Apple policy statements, unless so authorized; the songs sold on Itunes do not belong to Apple (they're licensed), so are not covered by this.

Recursive marketing sucks. A lot. (3, Interesting)

0x0d0a (568518) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136065)

I thought I had just finished with everyone under the sun trying to ram gmail tokens down my throat, and now I have to start over with the damn iTunes thing? Argh!

People are going to be suckers for recursive marketing until the market gets saturated.

Re:Recursive marketing sucks. A lot. (5, Funny)

typhoonius (611834) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136255)

So I guess I can't interest you in a free iPod...?

Re:Recursive marketing sucks. A lot. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10136358)

Speaking of marketing, this whole post seems less like news and more like an advertising press release for Apple. I guess that is ok, but who really cares about this product?

I'm always seeing "news" postings on here about itunes and ipod blah, blah, blah... I guess this site has to make money somehow.

Re:Recursive marketing sucks. A lot. (2, Insightful)

Hi_2k (567317) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136522)

Recursive marketing is a breath of fresh air compared to the old style. I flip through the channels on my TV and see ads that I classify into three categories: Useless, stupid, and funny. Useless is things like Tampons, or Dishwashing detergent, neither of which I would buy even with their assurances of "Grease fighting crystals". Stupid is any sort of medication, which should be pitched and perscribed only by a liscenced doctor with your best interests at heart. Funny ads are almost exculsivley a fairly standard joke with a single logo or name tacked on.

Even worse are things like "Targeted" advertisements on the internet. Google's getting better, but internet ads still fall into the basic categories.

None of these catergories comes close to informing me or making good use of my time. My friends, on the other hand, have a pretty good idea of what I like and have a pretty vested interest in giving me honest opinions. Music is meant to be a question of "Hey, Bob, come listen to this song, it's got a really catchy tune.", not of "LOOKIT THIS GIRLS BOOBS! AND SHE SINGS!". It will happen, and this is it.

But Context is everything... (5, Insightful)

ImaLamer (260199) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136584)

Imagine that I run a site which talks about music in general or just hip-hop, jazz or whatever. Those kinds of people can slip little ads into their site which make sense. It's a lot easier than just telling people to venture to their local [INSERT ANTIQUE FORMAT] store and grabbing one off the shelf.

I, for example, have a political website. Right now there are lots of good political books that relate exactly to the content of my site. It makes sense to have a "click here to buy this" after book quotes. What doesn't make sense is putting them on every page even where they don't belong. (Not that I take advantage of this because I can't find a good affiliate program that does this, amazon IIRC doesn't offer this anymore).

Sure, you'll get google-bombed pages which have nothing but "buy this song" links but out there someone can turn his or her hobbie into a cash cow. It may not be much money - but to the site's readers it means the site may be up next year come domain/hosting renewal time.

Although, can you imagine the possibility with iTunes affiliate programs? Music has a much broader appeal. I can put my favorite song's name and artist name in my Slashdot sig, just to get people turned on to their music. It would be annoying for everyone to link to Britney Spears or some other pop-star, but obscure music could be marketed for almost nothing.

The cool thing is that you can help support your favorite artist and get a kickback while doing it. The reason that Britney and company are so popular is because people vote with their dollars. If there is suddenly a huge surge in Jaco Pastorius songs sold on iTunes maybe radio stations will get a clue and stop following the RIAA's lead.

btw... get a freeipod already! [freeipods.com] ;-) he he he.... couldn't resist.

Fight the Enemy (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10136070)

Seems the folks at DownhillBattle.org could use this to raise revenue and pay the artist 5 cents on each song sold...

Re:Fight the Enemy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10136220)

I think it maybe an uphill battle to get Madonna to cash your check for $16.35.

Well maybe you could just buy non-RIAA music, but if an artist signed a really shitty deal with a non-RIAA label we are going to have to let Darwin kick in at some point aren't we?

subject (-1, Redundant)

zebo_2001 (609483) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136083)

I dont understand this at all

what the heck is this?

Re:subject (5, Informative)

theKinkyRabbit (809823) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136169)

You put a banner on your site, pointing to the iTMS. When someone clicks it and then buys something within the next 24 hours, you get a percentage of the transaction.
This has been working for a long time with the Apple Store, the fact that it now works with the iTMS too is the news bit.

FAQ? (4, Insightful)

LihTox (754597) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136086)

I love Apple, but there are two things that struck me:
1) "Frequently Asked Questions"? How long has this been around that there are questions asked frequently? :)
2) In the FAQ, there is the sentence "You can only use approved creative provided by iTunes." When did "creative" become a noun?

Re:FAQ? (5, Interesting)

MedHead (795006) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136103)

I too was confused with the FAQ, but for a different reason: there are no banner measurements given. I don't want to have to sign an agreement that gives me certain responsibilities without knowing all my tools at my disposal beforehand. Does "creative" mean text-based ads similar to Google's? Does "banner" mean 88x31 pixels, or 500x150 pixels? If I'm going to have to follow all sorts of rules just to see what I can promote on my website, forget it. I don't want to take the risk of Apple emailing me about my lack of participation. Maybe I'm being too paranoid?

Re:FAQ? (2, Informative)

aka-ed (459608) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136201)

Have you ever been in an affiliate program? As a general rule you can sign up and never participate, no one cares. Why should they?

Re:FAQ? (1)

bahwi (43111) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136324)

"2) In the FAQ, there is the sentence "You can only use approved creative provided by iTunes." When did "creative" become a noun?"

I think when they invented marketing. Seriously, probably when newspaper ads became widespread. It's a pretty old term in usage as a noun, IIRC.

Re:FAQ? (1)

Sulka (4250) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136382)

"I think when they invented marketing."

Nope! That's strictly legalese.

While some marketing people are very creative, most aren't. However, all of them like to think they are. Someone working in marketing doesn't want to go as low as to quantify creative as a noun.

However, for lawyers creative is just another item they protect. For iTunes Music Store, they can't say it's just songs they're protecting but all the content being sold is more or less creative. Makes a perfect noun!

Re:FAQ? (1)

Lars T. (470328) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136339)

Lessee: n. One who displays productive originality [reference.com] (eg. an advertisement creative); an advertising term referring to graphic design work like logo's and banners. [michaelswilder.com]

IOW: "A creative creates creative creative" is a correct sentence - in the advertisment business at least ;-)

Re:FAQ? (2, Insightful)

AdamTheBastard (532937) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136596)

"logo's and banners." What'll it be michaelswilder.com ? Are you going to put an apostrophe when you pluralise or not?

I know I wont pay for marketing from someone who can't make up their mind on something as simple as that.

Re:FAQ? (1)

Lars Arvestad (5049) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136557)

"Frequently Asked Questions"? How long has this been around that there are questions asked frequently? :)

Hey, this is the internet. FAQs have been created without question having been asked at all at least since time() == 0.

Re:FAQ? (1)

DrSkwid (118965) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136630)


"the creative" is a useful abstraction that has long been used in media circles for the name of the section of the business that is the video / artwork / sculpture / piece of music.

The people who render these are called "the creatives" not "artistes / musicians / sculptors" or whatever.

Terms of service word count: 22,760 (4, Funny)

aka-ed (459608) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136087)

I think this must be some kind of record. Anybody else willing to read it and tell me what parts might be objectionable?

Re:Terms of service word count: 22,760 (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10136245)

You read contracts?

Re:Terms of service word count: 22,760 (3, Interesting)

nmoog (701216) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136362)

I don't know, I only got up to the bit that said "..a legal resident of the United States.."

Re:Terms of service word count: 22,760 (1)

TheProcrastinatorTM (539571) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136745)

Well, more like 2700.. but seriously, that IS the equivalent of a 10 page paper in double spaced paper in 12 point courier (bad flashback to college). Could be worse, I suppose.

Incentive for smaller labels? (5, Insightful)

photonagon (721776) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136089)

Seems like this might be an additional incentive for smaller labels to join up with iTunes store, or perhaps even independant artists to start doing so.

I'm not exactly sure how Apple signs labels (or individuals) even after a bit of browsing on their site.

Re:Incentive for smaller labels? (1)

DrSkwid (118965) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136639)


independent

SSN + No encryption = ??? (4, Insightful)

muel (132794) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136100)

Am I too paranoid to feel completely iffy about submitting my social security number over a non-encrypted website? I don't think it's very naive to expect a little lock icon to pop up when I visit Apple's "tell us everything about you, but we'll keep it private, fer sure, promise!!!11" zone.

Re:SSN + No encryption = ??? (5, Funny)

MedHead (795006) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136119)

Oh, security? That'll be installed on Tuesday!

Re:SSN + No encryption = ??? (1, Funny)

ciroknight (601098) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136149)

Oh a joke.. my laughter will be installed Tuesday as well.

Let me guess (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10136658)

Tuesday!

Re:SSN + No encryption = ??? (1)

irving47 (73147) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136145)

No problem. We've got the deflector dish. The swiss army knife of starship gadgets. It might be enough to punch through the Reality Distortion Field surrounding this offer!

Re:SSN + No encryption = ??? (1)

commodoresloat (172735) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136193)

Just use mine. It's 078-05-1120.

;^)

Re:SSN + No encryption = ??? (2, Funny)

aka-ed (459608) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136216)

commodoresloat=Mrs. Hilda Schrader Whitcher?

You owe me money, biatch!

Re:SSN + No encryption = ??? (4, Insightful)

mosch (204) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136232)

<form name="form1" action="https://ssl.linksynergy.com/php-bin/reg/sr egister.shtml?mid=13508&no_r=1" method="post">

Re:SSN + No encryption = ??? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10136321)

The form submission is encrypted so no worries.

Re:SSN + No encryption = ??? (1)

psavo (162634) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136663)

The form submission is encrypted so no worries.

And what happens if someone injects something when you're loading the form itself?

Win one of five free iPod minis? (5, Funny)

89cents (589228) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136110)

Geez with everyone doing it now, I had to check to see if there were referrer links to freeipods.com in the article summary.

Re:Win one of five free iPod minis? (0, Offtopic)

ciroknight (601098) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136130)

Yeah, well everyone's not giving away a free iPod 3rd gen when he (me) gets his fourth gen. ;)

(Yes, I know this post is very badly off topic).

i hope you get modded down (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10136430)

you people bitch and moan about spammers filling your email boxes but when this free______ shit comes around you go and spam the hell out of your referrer ids. you're no better than email spammers, hypocrites.

In other news (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10136124)

The number of comments on slashdot have doubled.

Re:In other news (0, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10136259)

To the moderator who rated this offtopic: did you even understand what the comment was about? Have you forgotten about the amazon spammer [slashdot.org] already? Sheesh!

Here comes the spam! (5, Interesting)

crucini (98210) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136131)

Affiliate programs seem to bring out the slimiest in people, whether it's email spam or spammy slashdot comments [slashdot.org] . Won't it be wonderful to search for some obscure song on google and get a vast wasteland of affiliate link-spam pages all pointing to Apple?

I thought Apple had more class.

(Please, Apple fanboys, don't mod this down out of reflexive groupthink. Because that's lame.)

Re:Here comes the spam! (-1, Troll)

ciroknight (601098) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136160)

Another good one for the lyrics sites ;). But seriously, I have to agree with you. It's getting kinda rough to search for anything involving music in Google or any search engine really, especially with the level of spam they introduce to the internet. Some sites should be taken out and shot (damn you omnipresent bloggers...). But that's life on the ever-evolving internet.

Re:Here comes the spam! (1)

Chmarr (18662) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136260)

And... you say all of that, but you have a link to an iPod Pyramid Scheme in your .sig?

Re:Here comes the spam! (1)

quigonn (80360) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136486)

It's not a pyramid scheme, it has the shape of a trapezoid.

Re:Here comes the spam! (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10136604)

Lyric sites will probably be perceived by Apple (with "help" from the *AAs) as peddling illegal wares (the lyrics are copyrighted - *AA: buy the sheet music) and will probably be rejected.

To me, this stance is more mind boggling than any others that the *AAs hold.

Re:Here comes the spam! (1)

sevensharpnine (231974) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136181)

I agree. But I think the whole point is to allow the underhanded marketing tactics from affiliate sites. Apple basically gets to stay clean by simply managing their site and paying for the occasional ad. The dirty work gets done by the usual search-engine spammers, while Apple doesn't directly do anything bad.

As far as I'm concerned, Apple is now participating in the useless spamming of the web. Maybe next week they can start selling v1agra?

Also positive possibilities (4, Interesting)

spectrokid (660550) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136332)

I guess it wouldn't be too hard for OS projects to use this as a source of revenue. By your music through Mozilla and support your favourite browser while you are at it!

so in other words (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10136132)

it's an iFfiliate program.

*runs for cover*

Re:so in other words (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10136162)

it's better than an iFellate program.

Canada still too cold for AAC quality music (5, Funny)

Matt Clare (692178) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136133)

Apple also annouced that Canada is too cold for iTunes quality soundwaves to work and plans to never let the canucks into the iTunes store.

Re:Canada still too cold for AAC quality music (1)

Wilkshake (788751) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136217)

And if it's too cold in Canada, then it's definately too hot for them to release the iTunes store here in Australia as well.

Damn Apple temperature Nazi corporation types.
-

Must be done in IE (4, Informative)

enjoilax (792737) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136134)

Using FF .9.3 and will not register, did it with IE, sorry all.

Re:Must be done in IE (1)

MedHead (795006) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136166)

It's still not secure in Internet Explorer.

Re:Must be done in IE (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10136641)

It's still not secure in Internet Explorer.
LOL He still uses IE as a backup for moz, you actually think he cares if it is secure or not??

Re:Must be done in IE (1)

psergiu (67614) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136860)

Also it does not work with Mozilla 1.7.2 :(

FAQ #402 (5, Funny)

LuxFX (220822) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136142)

Q: Is it really possiblr to win an iPod mini?
A: You're not very good at math, are you?

Re:FAQ #402 (3, Funny)

Lars T. (470328) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136370)

1: If you join, there is a non-zero chance that you do.
2: If you don't join, there is zero chance that you do.
3. If you convince others not to join, your chance gets bigger.

See, math is easy.

It's like the old joke about lotteries... (3, Insightful)

rlowe69 (74867) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136583)

... they're just a tax on people who are bad at math.

The odds are still terrible you'll win an iPod Mini, but it looks like the only thing signing up for this will cost you is your time.

How to *really* win an iPod Mini (2, Insightful)

0x0d0a (568518) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136910)

The odds are still terrible you'll win an iPod Mini, but it looks like the only thing signing up for this will cost you is your time.

Yup. So it consumes some chunk of your time for an incredibly small chance to win an iPod Mini.

You really want an iPod Mini, with a 100% chance to win (and help out the other folks in the Open Source world)?

Do a GNOME Bug Bounty [gnome.org] , and just *buy* an iPod Mini.

Apple wins, you win, the Open Source world wins, and the musicians win.

Re:FAQ #402 (5, Funny)

Bullet-Dodger (630107) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136569)

Q: Is it really possiblr to win an iPod mini?
A: You're not very good at math, are you?

Or spelling, it would appear. :-)

I love signing checks for 82 (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10136163)

Sell 16,000 songs per month and finance your new BMW!

Looking forward to it (4, Interesting)

tobes (302057) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136191)

There seem to be a lot of complaints about this so far, but I for one am really looking forward to it. I've been linking to the itms extensively for about a year now (just cause it's very useful for my users). It's going to be great to start getting some revenue!

Personally, I think the iTunes Music Store is a great platform for finding new music. Anyone can make links to it and they've got tons of sample streams. Hopefully this move indicates that Apple wants third parties to provide the navigation innovation while they continue to act as a platform and catalog.

Re:Looking forward to it (-1, Offtopic)

aka-ed (459608) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136249)

And you, for one, welcome your new Itunes Sponsored Linkage Masters!

Re:Looking forward to it (-1, Offtopic)

kaschei (701750) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136434)

And you, for one, welcome your new Itunes Sponsored Linkage Masters!

Make Google cover costs of my radical leftist site by clicking my ads!

Hypocrisy italicized.

Re:Looking forward to it (1)

tarth (445054) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136450)

Musicmobs is an awesome website and I'm glad Apple is going to start giving you a cut. Just today, my friend got a $20 gift certificate from his office and he asked me how he should spend it. I of course pointed him to the Musicmobs Recommends feature.

Re:Looking forward to it (1)

tobes (302057) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136507)

Awesome. You should also have him check out the new recommendations page [musicmobs.com] (as of about an hour ago). I've found it to be EVEN more useful than the Musicmobs Suggests.

Free iPod minis (-1, Redundant)

Joey Patterson (547891) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136209)

people that sign up prior to September 15 can win one of five free iPod minis

But I already have five free iPod minis [freeipods.com] , you insensitive clod!

I don't quite understand... (3, Interesting)

huchida (764848) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136230)

From the FAQ I couldn't figure out how this works. If a visitor clicks the banner on your site, does that open their copy of iTunes and take them to the store? After all there is no iTunes store site to be directed to...

If that's the case, this sounds more like a way to get PC users to install iTunes than to actually sell songs. A bit on the sleazy side, isn't it Apple?

I do see a benefit for independant artists, assuming they can get their music in the iTunes music store in the first place (how does that work, anyway? Is anyone rejected?) Previously the best they could hope for is to direct you to Amazon, or, worse, tell you how to mail-order their music.

Re:I don't quite understand... (1)

Sentry21 (8183) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136497)

As I understand it, Apple has one offer - one contract. If you want to list music, then you sign that contract. Independant labels can sign, and they get the exact same deal, to the letter, that BMG, Sony, and Virgin have. If you don't want to sign that contact, no dice. Other than that, I don't think there are any impractical limitations to who can apply. They probably have limitations, like nothing that expouses hate or racism, but it's hard to say.

--Dan

Trolls Unite! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10136231)

I need to call in a favor...

Anonymously email genieinabottle123@hotmail.com with one of the following messages.

1.
You stupid sand whore, I'm glad your dog is dead karma sucks.

2.
Stop molesting high school boys.

3.
The day of reckoning will come and you will be judged.

Beginning of a Revolution? (5, Insightful)

Fraser Cain (203191) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136242)

I wonder if this is the beginning of the end for the traditional music companies. From what I understand, the key benefit they bring to the music business is marketing. They use their marketing and distribution channels to make a band popular or not.

If iTunes is starting to offer an affiliate program, then it will encourage websites to develop song lists and various tools that analyze your current listening tastes and then recommend songs that you can buy from iTunes. Obviously there'll be a flurry of crap and SPAM, but eventually some pretty cool services are going to emerge.

Services which can avoid the traditional music labels entirely. Artists can produce a song, a vast network of freelance marketers can promote it (instead of 5 big media conglomerates), and music buyers can pay for it.

Re:Beginning of a Revolution? (2, Interesting)

tobes (302057) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136261)

I'm already doing pretty much this exact thing on Musicmobs.

Re:Beginning of a Revolution? (2, Informative)

smclean (521851) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136415)

See also:

AudioScrobbler [audioscrobbler.com]

Re:Beginning of a Revolution? (2, Insightful)

gl4ss (559668) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136309)

revolution???
wtf? and those 'tools' aren't going to be a new thing.

what you will see however for certain is google-spam. because it's not 'really' spam to have spam google. it just needs ten people to do linkfarms of all pop songs going between them or so and you'll be completely fucked for finding a site with real content about these songs.

apple would probably be able to weed out spyware 'recommenders' and nasty stuff like that but they can't really weed out those zombie websites with generated content that's just links to other sites of theirs with generated content(and adverts)..

Slashdot (4, Funny)

mosb1000 (710161) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136517)

Slashdot should apply, they could make a bundle off of the commissions with all the iTunes related articles they post. All they'd have to do is find a covert way to post links so that people wouldn't realize that it's a money making proposition for them ;)

Re:Slashdot (1)

Saluton_Mondo (728648) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136660)


I (for one) think that's a pretty good idea...

*WARNING* not a secure form! (-1, Redundant)

Hes Nikke (237581) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136611)

the page to sign up on is *not* secure. i don't have my trusty little lock, and it isn't an https:// url.... and they expect people to enter their social security number....

wake me up when it's secure so that i can sign up

Re:*WARNING* not a secure form! (4, Informative)

Accipiter (8228) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136673)

The form action itself is on an https connection. It's encrypted. Stop worrying.

Re:*WARNING* not a secure form! (2, Informative)

incog8723 (579923) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136711)

they expect people to enter their social security number....

Don't enter it. If the script demands it, put in all zeroes. If it still rejects it, put in all nines. If it still then rejects it, browse to epitonic.com, emusic.com, or mp3.com, or many other thousands of free mp3 music collections. Browse by area even. I live in Nashville. Go to a fucking live show, for godssakes. There are literally thousands of them here. I would bet there are at least two or three in your locale.

The point is, your Social Security Number is YOUR PRIVATE information. You don't have to give it to ANYONE, *unless* you are dealing with social security benefits. Goodbye.

Re:*WARNING* not a secure form! (1)

0x0d0a (568518) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136874)

The sad thing is that:

(a) An SSN is only supposed to be used for identification, not authorization. Unfortunately, it's used for authorization all over the place (go to a bank, give 'em your SSN and you can withdraw money). This means that we can't use it for identification without severely impacting the users and providers on systems that use the SSN for authentication.

(b) SSNs as an identity scheme disallows the use of pseudonyms. I can't just give Apple an identifier to deal with me -- I have to give them an identifier that links my identity with my real name, credit history, and all that. There is absolutely no reason Apple needs any of that, and no reason whatsoever that I should give that to them.

My Very own IPOD compatable Music Store. (4, Insightful)

tonywestonuk (261622) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136612)

Link directly from your website to any song, album or artist on iTunes. iTunes offers the largest and most diverse legal music download catalogue -- over 1 million tracks from all five major labels and over 600 leading independents. So... Lets say I copied all the available tunes titles from the itunes store, and launched a kickass amazing sites that was more friendly than iTunes , easier to navigate through. (If this is indeed possible, is not the issue here). So, My site becomes a instant Google like hit, Consumers are happy (iPod compatable song downloads), I'm getting 5% of each tune that is sold... (5% of millions, is, well Loadsass!), so I'm happy also. So, what would be the difference (not technically, but Visibly to the consumer) between this setup, and Apple [doing what everyone's screaming at them to do, but they won't] licensing the AAC technology to a third party to allow them to set up their own store?.....

in the latter case, To get the protected AAC files to your iPod, you still need iTunes (to handle the drm keys), So Apples presence will still be there.
How much differences will there realy be?

Re:My Very own IPOD compatable Music Store. (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10136635)

"Lets say I copied all the available tunes titles from the itunes store"

But why copy, when there's already phptunes [linuxpowered.com] ?

Re:My Very own IPOD compatable Music Store. (3, Interesting)

tonywestonuk (261622) | more than 9 years ago | (#10136645)

Yes, why not!.... It could be possible to dynamically update your website using phptunes, so (in theory) your online music site will not need any maintenance!

Step 2 discovered! (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10136653)

1. Join iTMS Affiliate Program.
2. Set up site with phptunes
3. PROFIT!!!11
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