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Windows Media Player 10 Reviewed

michael posted about 10 years ago | from the mplayer-rules dept.

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An anonymous reader writes "Paul Thorrott reviews Windows Media Player 10 and notes that unlike Apple's iTunes Music Store, which offers music that is only compatible with Apple's iPod portable player, WMP 10 will work with songs from virtually any other online music store. There are more screenshots here with a download link." Reader Thomas Hawk writes "I wrote my Microsoft Windows Media Player 10 Review today the first day the software was released and one of the first reviews on the product. I basically give it good marks but there are definiately some things that they can still improve upon." An anonymous reader writes "Since I'm somewhat wary of Microsoft's new software (particularly DRM-laden Media Player types,) I was paying attention to the EULA and privacy agreements provided when downloading the software. Ironically enough, the privacy page linked from the installer (at time of writing) merely said "TODO: Privacy policy goes here". Most certainly an honest mistake, but in the meantime it appears there is in fact no policy on privacy (or it has not yet been taken into consideration) in WMP10."

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TODO: (3, Funny)

KoolDude (614134) | about 10 years ago | (#10150167)


First Post goes here

Re:TODO: (5, Funny)

eight22 (594669) | about 10 years ago | (#10150194)

There must also be a page that says "TODO: Security policy goes here."

Testimonial (5, Funny)

ackthpt (218170) | about 10 years ago | (#10150168)

WMP makes for a throughly enjoyable experience, whether you are jogging through the park with a laptop slung over your shoulder or sitting at your desk listening to the Beatles over the hum and whirr of cooling fans.

Clearly it's a superior means of enjoying musical content over having that annoying 100 gram iPod Mini which you can actually forget you have with you, because it requires no bulky computer or extension cord and that insidious battery will last for up to 8 hours.

Microsoft Windows Media Player 10, because your not going anywhere anyway.

Re:Testimonial (2, Insightful)

bigman2003 (671309) | about 10 years ago | (#10150347)

Right- and HDTV will never take off, because you can't go jogging in the park with a 42" plasma screen on your back.

What does WMP have to do with an iPod Mini? Did you realize that there are other portable music players out there- some of which play WMA files? In fact, me and my friends were just talking about one of them yesterday [slashdot.org] .

Personally, I use a Pocket PC for my portable music player. A could of 1 gig SD cards, and I can carry plenty of music- while 'jogging through the park'. But then when I am done, I can go to the local coffeehouse and get my e-mail, surf the web, etc. etc.

Not saying the Pocket PC is a better portable player...but I'm just wondering where the heck you come up with your comparison.

Re:Testimonial (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10150348)

I think you need to learn the difference between "you" and "you are" (and its abbreviation "you're"). How about "(Score:0, Semi-literate)" ;)

Re:Testimonial (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10150367)

What is the logic in modding this funny? It's no more than a cheap shot at microsoft (Which isn't a bad thing, usually,) and one that doesn't even apply here.

Yeah, maybe if MS had been toting WMP as in iPod killer or something, than sure. This joke would work. But they didn't. We need to keep our Microsoft taunting at a certain level, guys. I expect more from the things mods rate a 5.

Re:Testimonial (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10150388)

I prefer to use my annoying 50 gramme player with solid-state memory. Why walk around with a moving hard drive whirring and spinning for 8 hours when I could have a no-moving-parts player that runs for 20 hours?

Re:Testimonial (-1, Flamebait)

callipygian-showsyst (631222) | about 10 years ago | (#10150436)

You're being silly! WMP is software meant to be run on a desktop or laptop machine. And because there are lots of tiny PC options that can run WMP (unlike iTunes), using it in the park is a lot less silly than running iTunes when jogging in the park!

Since I know you Mac people get off on "thinness" you should really like Sony's 1.85 pound laptop [sonystyle.com] that runs XP! You can run WMP 10 just fine on this, whereever you are.

No Privacy Policy? (3, Insightful)

Quietude (634889) | about 10 years ago | (#10150170)

Anyone else a little nervous that they haven't gotten around to writing a privacy policy? That seems a bit disturbing, to say the least.

Re:No Privacy Policy? (5, Funny)

petabyte (238821) | about 10 years ago | (#10150213)

Anyone else a little nervous that they haven't gotten around to writing a privacy policy? That seems a bit disturbing, to say the least.

TODO:
Conspiracy theory goes here.

Re:No Privacy Policy? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10150231)

Why worry when you can have 100% privacy if you want? All you have to do is block the IP addresses that WMP10 uses to phone home.

Re:No Privacy Policy? (4, Insightful)

fireduck (197000) | about 10 years ago | (#10150337)

one could look at it that way, or one could look at is as a mistake (engineers releasing product before lawyers had added their input?).

Recall that WMP 9 was probably MS's first instance where they started to make people's privacy important. During install, there is an explicit privacy step you have to go through, checking a number of boxes on whether to allow net connections to search for things, whether to use your media player's unique id, etc. And it wasn't set up like Real and all their hidden check boxes visible if you only scroll down. Very much visible and meant to be taken seriously. There's a very clear and visible "Privacy" tab in the options menu.

Re:No Privacy Policy? (1)

Technonotice_Dom (686940) | about 10 years ago | (#10150371)

Hmm... I wonder what the legal implications would be if they put the privacy policy on that page (the hostname of which contains beta.) after some people had installed WMP10 to this "policy".

I take it they would then be covered under the non-existant privacy policy - would that give Microsoft a carte blanche as far as privacy goes?

5 years ago, who would have thought... (4, Funny)

korea (615587) | about 10 years ago | (#10150176)

napster logo on windows media player.

gasp

gasp

gasp

Re:5 years ago, who would have thought... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10150224)

The old napster has little to do with the new napster, other than the name. They are completely different products. One is p2p, the other is some sort of DRM music downloading service.

Re:5 years ago, who would have thought... (1)

FLAGGR (800770) | about 10 years ago | (#10150310)

hence the "5 years ago, who would have thought..." title. Jeez.

Todo: Make witty comment about the TODO blurb (-1, Offtopic)

HMA2000 (728266) | about 10 years ago | (#10150183)

witty comment goes here.

iTMS vs. WiMP10? (5, Insightful)

tulmad (25666) | about 10 years ago | (#10150186)

Paul Thorrott reviews Windows Media Player 10 and notes that unlike Apple's iTunes Music Store, which offers music that is only compatible with Apple's iPod portable player, WMP 10 will work with songs from virtually any other online music store.

Wtf does that mean? What does iTunes Music Store have to do with WiMP 10? iTunes (not the music store) can play mp3s, which means it's compatible with almost every other online music store too. It's just MS's WMA format that iTunes can't play, but neither can any other player anyways.

Re:iTMS vs. WiMP10? (4, Insightful)

Spad (470073) | about 10 years ago | (#10150233)

It's bollocks, that's what it is.

They're comparing a Media Player to an Online Music Store

My Stereo is so much better than that music store over there because it plays tapes, cds, minidiscs and vinyl - but the store only sells vinyl.

Re:iTMS vs. WiMP10? (4, Insightful)

peragrin (659227) | about 10 years ago | (#10150301)

iTunes can convert WMA music to AAC, the windows version of itunes includes this.

not sure about DRM'd Songs though.

Re:iTMS vs. WiMP10? (2, Interesting)

Ashyukun (551101) | about 10 years ago | (#10150449)

I'd have to guess it won't play DRM'd WMAs- though I've never tried.

That would actually be an interesting thing for Apple to do- pick up that it's a DRM'd file they can't let you play, look up whether iTMS carries it, and offer you a considerable discount to buy it from the iTMS.

Re:iTMS vs. WiMP10? (1)

buckminster (170559) | about 10 years ago | (#10150441)

Wish I had some mod points. This is a valid comment and not a troll. I'm not sure the original post understands the difference between iTunes the media player and iTunes the online music store.

ogg (5, Interesting)

stephenMF (547151) | about 10 years ago | (#10150189)

Does it support Ogg files in your playlist yet?

That's nice and all... (2, Insightful)

RatBastard (949) | about 10 years ago | (#10150191)

But it doesn't run on my Mac.

Re:That's nice and all... (-1, Troll)

ClickWir (166927) | about 10 years ago | (#10150275)

Good. Trash it and get a decent Dell.

Re:That's nice and all... (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10150390)

Theres such a thing as a decent Dell?

Re:That's nice and all... (1, Insightful)

Kenja (541830) | about 10 years ago | (#10150385)

"But it doesn't run on my Mac."

About 90% of the stuff I run on a computer doesn't run on my Mac. Thats why it sits in the corner next to my Sun and SGI systems feeling lonely.

Re:That's nice and all... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10150393)

And iTunes didn't work on Windows at first either.

Re:That's nice and all... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10150408)

Maybe that's why it's called WINDOWS Media Player?

Re:That's nice and all... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10150432)

yeah, it does. Well, it runs on MINE, anyway.

Doesn't install on Windows Server 2003 (2, Informative)

Emugamer (143719) | about 10 years ago | (#10150193)

since WS2003 can do almost anything that XP can yet is more stable and can do a lot of testing for work related activites I have that as one of my main computers at home... I tired to install Media Player 10 and it won't install, apparently its only for XP

go fig.

Re:Doesn't install on Windows Server 2003 (3, Interesting)

ackthpt (218170) | about 10 years ago | (#10150251)

since WS2003 can do almost anything that XP can yet is more stable and can do a lot of testing for work related activites I have that as one of my main computers at home... I tired to install Media Player 10 and it won't install, apparently its only for XP

Unbelievable! I mean, what Sys Admin should be denied the ability to listen to Paula Abdul in the server room, surrounded by cooling fans moving about 500 CFM? Microsoft just doesn't get it. tsk tsk tsk.

FWIW, we actually had a guitar speaker mounted in the ceiling in our computer center, years ago (it's probably still there :-) and used to crank it up in there, among the servers and minis.

Ya know... (5, Insightful)

eln (21727) | about 10 years ago | (#10150200)

If they just stuck to a media player that limits itself to, say, playing media, they wouldn't need a privacy policy.

Re:Ya know... (1)

Tuvai (783607) | about 10 years ago | (#10150448)

Which is much rarer than you may think. It's not just Microsoft and Sony who follow the 'everything including the kitchen sink' policy you know

WMP 10... yay... (3, Insightful)

Masami Eiri (617825) | about 10 years ago | (#10150201)

I dunno about everyone else, but WMP has been just getting more bloated since 7. For ages, I had downgraded WMP to 6.x, until a friend pointed out Media Player Classic.

Its not like I need the playlist stuff, Winamp (2.9) handles music, I only use WMP for video, which rarely needs a playlist, and even then, if I need a playlist for video, I do it with Winamp.

Re:WMP 10... yay... (2, Informative)

Masami Eiri (617825) | about 10 years ago | (#10150228)

Forgot to mention, as far as ripping goes, CDex is a superior tool.

Re:WMP 10... yay... (1, Informative)

fungus (37425) | about 10 years ago | (#10150285)

One of the first things I do with a fresh Windows installation is installing K-Lite Codecs [k-litecodecpack.com] .

It includes every codecs you need, WMP Classic, a Real-Player alternative, and a QuickTime alternative.

It works great, and its free.

Re:WMP 10... yay... (2, Informative)

TheSpoom (715771) | about 10 years ago | (#10150345)

Winamp does video too.

Re:WMP 10... yay... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10150433)

if I need a playlist for video, I do it with Winamp.

I think he knows that already.

Re:WMP 10... yay... (2, Informative)

milamber.net (188526) | about 10 years ago | (#10150411)

You don't have to downgrade. Leave windows do its mad upgrading thing and then if you want to run "old" media player type "mplayer2" in start->run.

Personally I think you can't been vlc [videolan.org] .

I still like iTunes and WinAmp (4, Insightful)

neiffer (698776) | about 10 years ago | (#10150202)

I am a big Windows guy, so it hurts me to say I like iTunes better but I do. It doesn't really bother me that I cannot buy from other companies since I use mostly MP3's with iTunes anyways. If you are are really looking for a media player that can play different formats (including movies), I recomment WinAmp 5. It's better than Winamp 3, it plays multiple media, has a large plug in set to extend functionality and had a low overhead. Plus, I love the media library feature in WinAmp, which WMP never seems to get right, confirmed with my installation of the 10 beta.

Re:I still like iTunes and WinAmp (1)

korea (615587) | about 10 years ago | (#10150234)

I still feel uncomfortable using winamp for video so I'm still personally bound to WMP. iTunes is an X-trick pony; I say this because I don't know all of its tricks. However, WinAmp is very comfortable to me and I suggest it to anyone I catch using iTunes.

No privacy? (2, Insightful)

iamdrscience (541136) | about 10 years ago | (#10150209)

Well, no privacy policy would seem to mean no privacy, am I right?

TODO: (0, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10150210)

put step 2 here.

anyone else? (5, Interesting)

nmec (810091) | about 10 years ago | (#10150211)

anyone else still think the MSN music store looks just a tad like an existing one?

Re:anyone else? (-1, Offtopic)

RatBastard (949) | about 10 years ago | (#10150232)

I can't tell. It doesn't work in Firefox.

Privacy Policy ? (0)

saudadelinux (574392) | about 10 years ago | (#10150215)

/dev/null

Not impressed already... (3, Funny)

York the Mysterious (556824) | about 10 years ago | (#10150218)

I decided to give it a try on a work computer where I usually run iTunes. Installed it and tried to play back an old playlist where the mp3 files no longer existed (it's been a while since I've used MP). The player freaked out and told me that the CD was scratched and I should check the CD. The file wasn't even a CD. I had a good chuckle and went back to iTunes. At least it knows what type of media it's playing.

Re:Not impressed already... (5, Insightful)

AKAImBatman (238306) | about 10 years ago | (#10150338)

Have you read the review? The guy gushes all over the place about how wonderful Microsoft is, and how WiMP is "the best"! Where the hell did his head go? Some samples:

I am a Windows Media Player junkie. Having used the program for a number of years I think it is quite simply a brilliant piece of software - a masterpiece developed by extremely talented engineers in so many ways. Even more spectacular is that is free. Microsoft gives it away. If Microsoft didn't give this software away I'd gladly pay money for it. I love it.

Ugh. I feel so... dirty... after reading that.

Mp3 ripping. It's admirable that Microsoft finally listened to their users on this one and gave in. In all of the previous versions of Window's Media Player Microsoft forced you to rip your tunes to WMA. [...] Windows Media Player 10 fully supports mp3 ripping and high quality encoding at that. Kudos to Microsoft.

Something that iTunes has had... lemme see... forever?

The new "Composer" menu on the left hand window is a handy feature. Check it out. It's new and I love it. Want to create a Bob Dylan covers playlist? Select Dylan under the composer menu then sort the window by artist and select all but Bob Dylan as a performer and save it as a Bob Dylan covers playlist. Very simple, very easy.

More gushing + feature stolen from iTunes.

Ratings. WMP 10's rating system is first rate. [...] Microsoft developed a fine ratings system. How does this work? Rate each song you hear from one to five stars with a stroke of a right mouse click. Later when you are relaxing you can listen to only your favorite tracks.

That sounds great! Microsoft really outdid themselves by copying from iTunes^W^W^W innovating this really amazing feature! (end sarcasm)

Crossfading. In the past one of the things I hated most was that long silence between songs. One song would end and then prior to the next one there would be more silence.

WinAMP, iTunes, etc? Nope, it's a Microsoft invention don't you know.

Improved interface. Microsoft provided a much improved cosmetic overhaul to WMP 10. One of the things I like a lot in the libraries is that they color code (light blue and a lighter blue) between lines now making it easier to follow the data on a track across the screen.

Look at the screenshot on the page. It looks like crap. Usable, sure, but definitely not attractive.

Anyway, this "review" just hurts, so I'll stop there. I just wish we could rate this review '-1 Microsoft Leg Humper'.

"Honest Mistake" (2, Insightful)

GillBates0 (664202) | about 10 years ago | (#10150230)

TODO: Privacy policy goes here". Most certainly an honest mistake

Coming from a MegaCorp, I would expect something more like...Whoops, sorry, we accidentally sold your information to interested third parties including the DHS. We sincerely apologize for the honest mistake.

But you're right, this does look like an honest mistake. But it's more like a sign of the future to come.

Re:"Honest Mistake" (2, Insightful)

edsarkiss (755418) | about 10 years ago | (#10150266)

it's not an honest mistake -- it's just a sign that the legal department hasn't released the final approved version yet.

i'm sure someone decided that it was more important to release the product than wait for the PP to be finished.

welcome to the prroduct release process in a large company.

Re:"Honest Mistake" (1)

DarKnyht (671407) | about 10 years ago | (#10150311)

I am less worried about the "TODO: Privacy policy goes here." than I am that there are other areas that have "TODO: Security Fix Needed Here."

I do not think it reflects well on a company to put out finished products with obvious mistakes like this.

Re:"Honest Mistake" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10150464)

first draft leaked:

-we have the right to sell any and all information you fill in when registering the software.
-we have the right to use any and all things you search for as market reseach and sell the results.
-we have the right to snoop around your computer for any and all files on it for market research and sell the results.
-we have the right to snoop around your computer for any and all files on it for pirated or copyrighted works and sell the results.
-we have the right to wiretap your Internet connection for market research and sell the results.
-we have the right to turn on your mic and/or webcam for ... "market research" and sell the results.
-you have the right to bend over and take it like a consumer.

Open source? (5, Funny)

iamdrscience (541136) | about 10 years ago | (#10150237)

the privacy page linked from the installer (at time of writing) merely said "TODO: Privacy policy goes here".
Ah, I see Microsoft is beginning to adopt some open source development ideas. Excellant!

TO DO ... (0, Redundant)

webmilhouse (694316) | about 10 years ago | (#10150238)

... post witty response here.

thats th_U_rott not thorott you stupid slashsuxes! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10150239)

man what kinda moron is posting these fuckedup useless balooney stories to the mainpage.

our daily microsoft story give us today.

microsux and there is nothing about it. slashdot morons get a life, learn howto spell and post real shit instead

original poster is right. slashdot sux at spelling (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10150401)

spell it the right way jebuz crizt. its the guys name after all.

the guy is called paul thurott and not thorott you sickos.

napster? (1)

dirvish (574948) | about 10 years ago | (#10150248)

What's with the Napster logo?

Re:napster? (1)

StevenHenderson (806391) | about 10 years ago | (#10150315)

Especially with the recent rollout of MSN Music store - seems to be a conflict of interest, does it not?

Re:napster? (1)

dirvish (574948) | about 10 years ago | (#10150434)

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. beta.music.msn.com [msn.com] makes no mention of Napster...

Um. (4, Informative)

mcc (14761) | about 10 years ago | (#10150252)

Songs bought from Windows Media Player based music stores work in and only in Windows Media applications such as WMP.

Songs bought from the iTunes Music Store work in and only in Quicktime applications such as iTunes.

Songs bought from mp3 based music stores work anywhere.

Didn't we all know this already?

Re:Um. (1)

ahsile (187881) | about 10 years ago | (#10150306)

Microsoft does state that you can burn your WMA's to CD format and then import them with iTunes or whichever media player you use. Seems to be common sense to me though.

Step 1: Export to common format (CD Audio)
Step 2: Import to common format (MP3) ... but then you're wasting a cd. I'm not sure it's worth it. Just stick with one format or another.

Re:Um. (1)

StevenHenderson (806391) | about 10 years ago | (#10150344)

Songs bought from Windows Media Player based music stores work in and only in Windows Media applications such as WMP.

Songs bought from the iTunes Music Store work in and only in Quicktime applications such as iTunes.

Songs bought from mp3 based music stores work anywhere.


-------

Songs illegally downloaded off the net work anywhere as well. Sheesh, they could at least TRY to compete...

The good, the bad, the really, really ugly (5, Insightful)

thatguywhoiam (524290) | about 10 years ago | (#10150258)

That screenshot linked from the second review... oy, vey.

Somebody was commenting on the interface in an earlier thread but I had no idea... MSN's opposing gradients from hell clash with the XP Luna scheme really, really badly.

Go look. [thomashawk.com] Can you read those tabs at the top-right? Music... ra... radio... movies & tv?

Also - find the transport controls! They are hiding in the worst place possible, at the lower-left corner, which is exactly the last place your eye goes to when scanning the sea of text in the main window. This decision probably hinges on simply not making the thing look too much like iTunes.

God, I get angry just looking at this thing.

What is wrong with them? More money than God and they still can't manage to find a visual design that isn't completely retarded. Reversed text mixed with plain. Tabs - which don't look like tabs - separated by an arbitrary hierarchy. All controls with meaningful functions crammed into a too-small area at the bottom of the window, which sits mashed nicely against your taskbar, which is usually crammed with widgetry as well.

To say nothing of how the MSN Music Store works, I can say that iTunes (and WinAMP, and Audion) knock the shit out of this.

Re:The good, the bad, the really, really ugly (1)

don_carnage (145494) | about 10 years ago | (#10150426)

Can you read those tabs at the top-right? Music... ra... radio... movies & tv?

Err...I didn't have any touble reading them. Sure, the white text is a little light, but it probably goes dark when you click on it.

I'm highly excited about this new release. (-1, Flamebait)

Sheetrock (152993) | about 10 years ago | (#10150261)

With every release Microsoft's Windows Media Player has delivered an entirely new level of performance and quality. And from what I see, the trend continues.

For one thing, I don't understand why the cries about DRM go up with Microsoft yet are strangely muted with Apple. From what I can tell this player will have the same degree of restriction, yet will allow a much wider range of use (video as well as audio.) Couple that with the online music store planned by Microsoft and you have a winner... assuming you've already made the smart choice to purchase a PC.

On top of that, it remains quite easy to drop in new codecs for exotic video or audio formats. And the themes keep getting better -- Winamp, take notice. All while remaining the fastest performer on the desktop.

So do yourself a favor and pick it up already. :)

Re:I'm highly excited about this new release. (0, Flamebait)

revscat (35618) | about 10 years ago | (#10150343)

For one thing, I don't understand why the cries about DRM go up with Microsoft yet are strangely muted with Apple.

Simple. Apple doesn't have a history of being complete bitches to both the general public and the open source community.

And oh yeah: Apple writes better software.

ms is teh sux0r (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10150268)

unlike Apple's iTunes Music Store, which offers music that is only compatible with Apple's iPod portable player, WMP 10 will work with songs from virtually any other online music store.

oh great. pity about the hard labor mplayer developers and the like would have been forced to go through to reverse engineer MS technolgies and provide wrappers for the codecs just so linux users can play MS format. you can bet your bottom dollar MS wouldn't have provided any help to them on that.

just don't support their bullshit. just don't do it!!

New Icon? (1)

Skiron (735617) | about 10 years ago | (#10150271)

|All Our|
| Music |
---------

Re:New Icon? (2, Interesting)

wastingtape (576230) | about 10 years ago | (#10150413)

hahahha. That's great. I've always wondered about the stupid "My" labels on things. At one point we ventured about the office, sticking post-it notes on various items. The file cabinet wore a note reading "My Documents", monitors "My Computer", the switch hanging on the wall "My Network Places", and of cousre the trash can "Recycle Bin".

Looks like... (1)

KoolDude (614134) | about 10 years ago | (#10150273)


they forgot to use their own "invention" [slashdot.org] .

Anyone? Bueller? (1)

iamdrscience (541136) | about 10 years ago | (#10150274)

Maybe it's just because I've been using it forever, but I just can't see why any Windows user would prefer to use iTunes and particularly Windows Media Player as their music player rather than Winamp. You can't just ascribe it to ignorance of Winamp either, I know a few people who have winamp installed, but genuinely prefer playing their music in iTunes!

Works...? (2, Insightful)

StevenHenderson (806391) | about 10 years ago | (#10150279)

WMP 10 will work with songs from virtually any other online music store

I guess "work" has become a very subjective word. :)

Re:Works...? (5, Informative)

laird (2705) | about 10 years ago | (#10150452)

"WMP 10 will work with songs from virtually any other online music store

I guess "work" has become a very subjective word. :)"

I'll second this. Read Walt Mossberg's WSJ review of the store [wsj.com] -- he couldn't get music purchased from other WMP-based stores to play in WMP10.

This means that not only is WMP10 incompatible by definition with the vast majority of music sold online (70-80% of all music sold is through the iTunes Music Store, which is in protected AAC format not supported by WMP), it apparently won't play what little music is sold in protected WMA format, either.

Given that WMP10 apparently doesn't play any music ever sold online, I'd say that they have an uphill battle. I'm sure that MS and the MS-based retailers will eventually fix the problems that keeps WMP10 from playing the 20-30% of purchased music in MS-based formats. But since Microsoft's store isn't better than Apple's, and MS-based players aren't better than Apple's, about the only advantage that MS has is the ability to pre-install WMP on every copy of Windows. Of course, since Apple is doing deals with PC manufacturers to pre-install iTunes and iTMS on PC's as well, with any luck the market will at least stay competitive, to the benefit of customers...

No Online Servers (1)

aardwolf64 (160070) | about 10 years ago | (#10150281)

I have a proxy server to go through here at work, and Media Player 10 tells me that there are no online stores available in my area. Hmmmm...

Re:No Online Servers (1)

klang (27062) | about 10 years ago | (#10150339)

iTunes does this to me when I am behind the company's firewall ..

It's not just the DRM... (1)

freeze128 (544774) | about 10 years ago | (#10150293)

The thing I really don't care much for is the DRM services that get installed with this. I already don't like the idea of mediaplayer making determinations about the licensing of the music I listen to, but it becomes worse because it installs and runs a SERVICE that monitors this. It's one more thing running in the background that doesn't need to be when I am just reading my email.

Software makers: Get it through your head. DONT RUN YOUR DUMBASS SERVICES ON STARTUP JUST SO I CAN UNZIP A FILE .035ms FASTER!

Did they fix the time move video pan thingy? (1)

British (51765) | about 10 years ago | (#10150305)

What I like about Quicktime is you can move the time slider up and down and it will show you that EXACT frame in the video.

WMP never did this. If you move the time marker around, it just shows the time you are at, but the video stays frozen.

Wish they would fix that.

Re:Did they fix the time move video pan thingy? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10150458)

While we're asking for features, how about a single frame step? I doubt anyone makes a VCR or DVD playr without frame step, but the most "innovative" software monopoly in the worlds just can't figure out how to do it. I'd suggest taking a couple programmers of DRM and finish writing the player.

TODO (1)

jeremyds (456206) | about 10 years ago | (#10150309)

Ironically enough, the privacy page linked from the installer (at time of writing) merely said "TODO: Privacy policy goes here".

TODO: Add some witty comment tying Microsoft's "TODO" patent with their WMP privacy policy.

Windows Media Player 10 Reviewed (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10150321)

But does it run on Linux?

no mistake (0)

Lord_Dweomer (648696) | about 10 years ago | (#10150323)

That privacy policy wasn't a mistake.

It simply means that all your data are belong to M$, AND YOUR LITTLE DOG TOO!!!!

Re:no mistake (1)

pjt33 (739471) | about 10 years ago | (#10150442)

I don't have a little dog, but if I had why would it want my data?

buy music from m$.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10150349)

and all your music are belong to m$.

Reboot? (1)

helzerr (232770) | about 10 years ago | (#10150357)

Why, in 2004, is it necessary to restart Windows XP after installing WMP 10? Rebooting is so '90s.

Re:Reboot? (2, Funny)

Animats (122034) | about 10 years ago | (#10150440)

That's a violation of the "Certified for Windows XP" logo rules. The vendor should be denied the use of the Windows logo.

All in one (1)

hey (83763) | about 10 years ago | (#10150369)

From the screen shots it looks like its supposed to everything. That bugs me. It rips, burns, plays to music for you. I like MediaPlayer Classic that just plays and WinAmp. I can't see "upgrading" soon.

I don't get it... (1, Funny)

baudilus (665036) | about 10 years ago | (#10150370)

Windows Media Player 10 also encodes a high-bitrate encoder.

Does having your encoder encoded make for faster / better encoding?

Its a good thing... (1, Funny)

Bret540 (794463) | about 10 years ago | (#10150376)

That microsoft patented the TODO comment...

imagine.. (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10150377)

1. a beowulf cluster of m$ music stores..
2. ???
3. m$ profits!

Upped the anti? (1)

burgburgburg (574866) | about 10 years ago | (#10150383)

In Windows XP (released in 2001, see my review), Microsoft upped the anti with Media Player for Windows XP

I agree!

OS Integration... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10150384)

... goes here.

They are comparing a media player to a music store (2, Insightful)

rbanzai (596355) | about 10 years ago | (#10150431)

It's kind of stupid the way they compare WMP 10 to the Itunes music store. One is a media player, one is,well... a store!
Is it somehow significant that WMP 10 can play various flavors of music file and the itunes music store sells songs for ipods/itunes?
Are those two things not mutually exclusive?

Definitely (1)

killmenow (184444) | about 10 years ago | (#10150437)

I basically give it good marks but there are definiately some things that they can still improve upon.
Definately or definitely? Which is it? Well, the poster definitely couldn't make up his mind which it was.

Screenshots show Privacy... (1, Funny)

feloneous cat (564318) | about 10 years ago | (#10150444)

... is listed under the "Options" window... Considering the lack of a privacy policy, I guess it would make sense...

Better controls (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10150454)

All I want to know is can I now go forward and back one frame at a time or fastforward/rewind yet? Quicktime allows me to. So far I haven't been able to get Media player to.

Download from flexbeta? Get p0wned :) (1)

dhopton (252883) | about 10 years ago | (#10150463)

FlexBeta are great and all, but can you please link to the offical download in future?

http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=34505 [microsoft.com] Is the offcial download from microsoft - faster, nicer to the people who hosted and gives you much more faith in it not being trojaned.

Music Store vs. Media Player (1)

gatekeep (122108) | about 10 years ago | (#10150465)

"...unlike Apple's iTunes Music Store, which offers music that is only compatible with Apple's iPod portable player, WMP 10 will work with songs from virtually any other online music store."

Ironically, 'virtually any other online music store' does not include the Itunes music store. And why are we comparing an online music store to a software application anyhow?

Itunes will play AAC, and MP3, but not WMA.
WMP will play WMA, MP3, but not AAC.

Seems both software apps are equally limited in regards to what formats they'll play. Now, which stores support which formats is a different debate. Let's try not to mix up the player and the store. Although integrated, they are not the same thing.

iTunes was there first (1)

wizrd_nml (661928) | about 10 years ago | (#10150467)

The reviewer seems to be amazed by a lot of "new" features in WiMP that were already in iTunes ages ago.
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