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Did You VoteOrNot.org?

michael posted more than 9 years ago | from the if-you-don't-vote-you-can't-complain dept.

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WhiskerBiscuit writes "The boys at Am I Hot or Not have started a sweepstakes to encourage people to register to vote. According to this blogger's analysis, the contest should encourage disempowered people to register (subject to the constraint that poor people don't have computers). The organizers have cleverly split the prize between a lucky winner and whoever happens to have referred them, providing a selection advantage for viral dispersal of the meme."

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Virals and sweeps... (5, Interesting)

BoldAC (735721) | more than 9 years ago | (#10180859)

We ran a sweepstakes at tech-recipes.com [tech-recipes.com] not too long ago. The prizes were gift certificates to Amazon, t-shirts, etc. I was amazed how much traffic it brought in.

These sweepstakes sites must just have tons and tons of traffic because they turfed a lot our way. If you promoting a new site, I suggest it highly.

The problem with viral campaigns like VoteOrNot is that it is too easy to have multiple on-line personalities. In these days, nobody has one email account... it's easy for one person to be a ton of people online. That's the problem the company will have.

The problem the rest of us will have is these techniques will likely flood every forum in the world with referrals... much like the free iPod, LCD, hummer, hooker, etc. campaigns have.

Re:Virals and sweeps... (2, Insightful)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 9 years ago | (#10180923)

You have to enter your real name in the form. If you win and it turns out to be a psuedonym, they'll probably disqualify you. Sure they will be flooded with useless traffic but ALL their traffic is useless so what's the problem? :)

Re:Virals and sweeps... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10181047)

And what will you use as a proof of identification? an ID card? (sorry couldn't resist...)

Re:Virals and sweeps... (1)

rwiedower (572254) | more than 9 years ago | (#10181229)

The entire point is that they are trying to get people to register to vote. So the simple way to check would be to check the voter registration rolls for the city in question. They'll have to do this anyway because of the way the contest is setup. So it's no trouble at all.

Re:Virals and sweeps.../ URL PLEASE (5, Funny)

mr_z_beeblebrox (591077) | more than 9 years ago | (#10180986)

much like the free ...hooker

I need this URL...for a friend.

Re:Virals and sweeps... (1)

StillDocked (471133) | more than 9 years ago | (#10181011)

Ok, I googled and looked else where on-line, and off, and I can't find the sweepstakes for the free Hooker...

I have already won a foreign lottery, and I received a very special rate on Vi4gr4.

I am SURE that I can win a free hooker, so, please, point me in the direction.

Re:Virals and sweeps... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10181079)

Everyone always ignores that the electoral college decides the president, NOT the popular vote. Say what you will about the outcome of our LAST ellection, when it went to the supreme court, they decided a recount wasn't neccisary... Not because of the merits of either side's arguments, but because the electoral college had already voted.

So remind me again why my vote counts for anything?

We have no freedoms here in America. Only illusions that the ignorant cling to.

Re:Virals and sweeps... (3, Informative)

Lord Kano (13027) | more than 9 years ago | (#10181271)

The problem with viral campaigns like VoteOrNot is that it is too easy to have multiple on-line personalities. In these days, nobody has one email account... it's easy for one person to be a ton of people online. That's the problem the company will have.

They ask for your name, address and telephone number in addition to your email address. Most people don't have multiples of all of those too.

LK

Wonder Why? (5, Informative)

romper (47937) | more than 9 years ago | (#10180862)

In case you're wondering why they're doing this. [voteornot.org]

Terrible idea (1, Insightful)

JohnTheFisherman (225485) | more than 9 years ago | (#10180961)

This is a terrible idea, for the same reason the Motor Voter Bill was. Get a bunch of people registered who were otherwise too lazy to do so, when it's illegal to ask for ID at the polls, and not even required for absentee ballots? Great. Just what we need. More ballots floating around for people who can't be bothered to sign up to vote. I'm sure they'll keep track of their ballots and not let other people steal them because they might WIN FREE STUFF.

Vote early, vote often.

Re:Terrible idea (2, Informative)

Luyseyal (3154) | more than 9 years ago | (#10181232)

It's not illegal to ask for ID at polls... not in Texas anyway. They ask you for your registration card or gov't ID or you don't get a ballot.

-l

Re:Wonder Why? (1)

lpangelrob2 (721920) | more than 9 years ago | (#10181022)

Ack! At least warn us that it's not work safe next time! ;-)

Re:Wonder Why? (3, Informative)

IEEEmember (610961) | more than 9 years ago | (#10181060)

Or you could believe the terms and conditions;
By registering, entrants may sign up to receive email from Eight Days, Inc. ("Sponsor"). You can remove yourself from the email list by following onscreen instructions.

Which is in direct conflict with the entry form;

We only need the following info to contact you if you win. You will NOT get junk mail or spam for signing up.

Re:Wonder Why? (3, Informative)

romper (47937) | more than 9 years ago | (#10181140)

For what it's worth, I've been a member of their site for a long time (even met a great girl on there), and have never gotten any spam from that signup other than the occasional message from them (and yes, I use unique addresses for different accounts to track this kind of thing), and you can remove yourself from their mailing list if you wish.

I think what they mean is they're not going to be selling your information to anyone else.

Re:Wonder Why? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10181146)

Doesn't conflict. They only need the info to contact you if you win. Their sponsor needs it to send you spam.

FP (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10180868)

fp

How about encouraging them to register (4, Insightful)

Marxist Hacker 42 (638312) | more than 9 years ago | (#10180873)

By actually giving them a candidate they can agree with?

Re:How about encouraging them to register (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10181272)

Exactly the reason I shant be voting this time around.

Yeah, that's right, SHANT!

To bad for the rest of us. (5, Insightful)

agent dero (680753) | more than 9 years ago | (#10180877)

Shortly after turning 18 I registered to vote

By voting, I can bitch and moan about politics all I want, because I'm actively trying to change it with my little bit of power

Re:To bad for the rest of us. (3, Insightful)

HMA2000 (728266) | more than 9 years ago | (#10180969)

Even if you don't vote it is your god given right to complain. The idea that if you don't vote you can't complain is a platitude that makes no sense if you apply even a second of analysis to it.

Re:To bad for the rest of us. (1)

SB5 (165464) | more than 9 years ago | (#10181041)

The issues at hand are more important than whether or not you voted. The person that did win the election, whether it is on a school board, or leader of the country, in the end they are all servants to their people. And when they don't serve their people things get messy.

Re:To bad for the rest of us. (1)

SoSueMe (263478) | more than 9 years ago | (#10181071)

We get the government we deserve.

Re:To bad for the rest of us. (3, Insightful)

TopShelf (92521) | more than 9 years ago | (#10181171)

Oh you can certainly complain if you don't vote, but it undermines your credibility. Why should anyone care about the political opinion of someone who can't even be bothered to vote?

Re:To bad for the rest of us. (1)

v01d (122215) | more than 9 years ago | (#10181240)

Why should anyone care about the political opinion of someone who can't even be bothered to vote?

So, if I actually vote for Mickey Mouse my opinion is worth more than if I consider voting for Kerry? Not sure if I disagree or not, but it seems like an odd idea.

Re:To bad for the rest of us. (2, Funny)

Otter (3800) | more than 9 years ago | (#10181020)

Shortly after turning 18 I registered to vote...

Me too, on my birthday. I'm still voting, but am considerably less hot. Or not.

Re:To bad for the rest of us. (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10181209)

By voting, I can bitch and moan about politics all I want, because I'm actively trying to change it with my little bit of power

If you want to change things, you'd be a lot better off getting as rich as possible.

The USA is essentially a two-party system with both parties being very similar. It's a two-party system because people believe that it's a two party system. That's where the money comes in - you aren't going to change the system unless you get to convince millions of people that it isn't a two-party system. Good luck doing that without lots of money.

If you are willing to accept the two party system, your vote is utterly meaningless, as they are pretty similar on most issues. Whichever way you vote, the same laws will get enacted, etc. The way to change this without going outside the two party system is to convince your representative that your interests are important. Again, this is where the money comes in. There's a reason why organisations like the RIAA get your representatives to listen to them and enact the laws they want, and it all revolves around money.

So if you want to change the world, forget about voting, and start getting greedy. Democracy, as practiced in the USA, is dead.

Wait a minute... (0, Troll)

charlesbakerharris (623282) | more than 9 years ago | (#10180880)

Are people too poor to own computers allowed to vote??? I'm really not sure they should be.

Re:Wait a minute... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10181019)

Well, just because you own a computer doesn't mean you use it. My neighbor has a computer but it's his kid that uses it 95% of the time, and that's mainly for school work.

Vote or shut up! (4, Insightful)

jarich (733129) | more than 9 years ago | (#10180891)

Seriously, if you don't care enough to vote, then you shouldn't be complaining about the result.

Voter registration is web available in my county... it's amazing how few people on my street are even registered!

Vote republican. Vote democrat. Vote anything, just vote!

Re:Vote or shut up! (1)

Kenja (541830) | more than 9 years ago | (#10181139)

"Seriously, if you don't care enough to vote, then you shouldn't be complaining about the result."

So if you cant pick between two nearly identical idiots you shouldn't be complaining about which one wins? Sorry, but I will continue to bitch and not vote until we ditch the two party system or I die, care to guess which will happen first?

Re:Vote or shut up! (2, Informative)

the economist troll (805296) | more than 9 years ago | (#10181316)

If you think the two major-party presidential candidates are "nearly identical" on the issues that matter most to people (i.e. those who have ventured beyond the sheltered environment of their college campus), you're a fucking retard. Not to mention, contrary to popular belief, the presidential race isn't the only campaign going on right now.

Re:Vote or shut up! (1)

nkh (750837) | more than 9 years ago | (#10181147)

if you don't care enough to vote, then you shouldn't be complaining about the result.

I hear this argument every five minutes. What do you propose instead? If I vote blank, my vote is useless because no one will care, I will count as someone who has NOT voted. As long as there is not a good candidate to vote for, you're fscked up.

Voter registration is web available in my county...

Where I live, you're automatically registered on your 18th birthday. People just don't care about politics anymore, registered or not...

Re:Vote or shut up! (1)

Rob the Bold (788862) | more than 9 years ago | (#10181170)

Not voting does not mean one doesn't care. It means one didn't vote. That is still a valid choice. I personally feel a blank or "spoiled" ballot is a stronger statement than an uncast ballot, but that's just my view. One does not surrender the right to complain just because he/she didn't vote. Lots of people say "Vote or shut up", but that doesn't make it true.

"Exclude stories" not working? (1, Interesting)

tcopeland (32225) | more than 9 years ago | (#10180895)

I've got "politics" selected as one not to put on "my homepage", I'm logged in, and yet here this story is.

Anyone else seeing this?

Re:"Exclude stories" not working? (0, Offtopic)

Stavr0 (35032) | more than 9 years ago | (#10180927)

Same here, I think the topic as set to 'Internet' (as per the icon).

The other problem is that the 'Politics.slashdot.org' section should be politicsusa.slashdot.org

Re:"Exclude stories" not working? (1)

tcopeland (32225) | more than 9 years ago | (#10181078)

Thanks, OK, so the "section" is Politics but the "topic" is The Internet. Hm.

Too bad there doesn't seem to be a way to exclude junx in the politics "section". Ah well.

Re:"Exclude stories" not working? (2, Insightful)

GigsVT (208848) | more than 9 years ago | (#10181085)

There's no other politics.slashdot.org, so there's no need for the distinction.

I don't understand why there is so much bitching and whining about this. If I read a German tech news site frequently, I wouldn't be surprised if they opened a politics section that talked only about German politics, I'd expect it!

Man I really wish... (-1, Troll)

Johnny2Bags (713404) | more than 9 years ago | (#10180899)

I wish that my registration link [voteornot.org] got Slashdotted.

Don't vote, don't bitch (5, Insightful)

onyxruby (118189) | more than 9 years ago | (#10180924)

Think of this vote as your right to bitch for the next four years. If you don't vote you have no right to complain, because you could have done something about it, and didn't.

Now if you do vote, than by all means, bitch and complain. Ever wonder why younger people always get shafted by congress and the elderly wield lots of power? One reason, and one reason only for this, young people don't vote and elderly people do.

500 some votes put W in power, (never mind contested stuff), so dont ever think your vote doesn't count.

Re:Don't vote, don't bitch (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10181045)

500 some votes put W in power, (never mind contested stuff), so dont ever think your vote doesn't count.

Let's not forget how many voters were eliminated before they could even make it to the polls because of unconstitutional laws that were enacted by the Governor of FL. Let's also not forget how they conveniently paid quite a hefty sum of money to Choicepoint so that there was a scapegoat when the rumblings began heading in from the left.

500 votes seperated the winner from the real winner after all the cheating was ignored.

Re:Don't vote, don't bitch (2, Insightful)

lpangelrob2 (721920) | more than 9 years ago | (#10181113)

I'm not the biggest fan of this reasoning. You have a right to complain even if you made an informed decision not to vote for either candidate in any race.

Submitting an empty ballot can be an individually powerful message. It tells both parties that "Hey, I don't like either of you guys. Come up with something that better suits me in the future". Selfish, perhaps, but seeing as they're public servants, better to let them know this way than by idlly letting someone else decide for you.

Re:Don't vote, don't bitch (1)

Myolp (525784) | more than 9 years ago | (#10181125)

The thing is, voting for a single position (presidency) will result in a popularity contest. It would actually be much better if it was the Senate that choose who should be the President.

But voting is not rational (2, Insightful)

catbutt (469582) | more than 9 years ago | (#10181133)

It's not in your interest to vote, at least not from a game theory perspective. Voting takes effort, and the benefit you recieve directly from your act of voting is insignificantly small comparatively. If you want to say "but what if everybody didn't vote?", hit wikipedia for some game theory background first...

(and before you mod me down for discouraging voting...i vote and don't expect anyone not to based on this argument....but I'd just like to see a good countering argument)

Re:Don't vote, don't bitch (1)

garcia (6573) | more than 9 years ago | (#10181136)

If you don't vote you have no right to complain, because you could have done something about it, and didn't.

You have the right to complain about not having any decent choices to pick from. Republican/Democrat/Minority Party Candidate. Pick the lesser of the evils and suffer with the motherfucker and his cabinet choices for the next four to eight years.

What happens if you can't stand any of the jackasses running? Do you pick the Minority Party candidate and throw away your vote (no, the majority candidates don't give a fuck if you threw your vote away once they win)? Do you pick the one that you agree with slightly on some topics just because you can't stand the incumbents cabinet members? Or do you just not fucking vote because it won't matter anyway?

Re:Don't vote, don't bitch (1)

smclean (521851) | more than 9 years ago | (#10181301)

Why do you say voting for a minority party candidate is throwing away your vote? Do you really vote just because you think that your single solitary vote has a chance of changing the outcome of the election? Unless you vote on this belief, there is no such thing as 'throwing away your vote'.

Once you accept that your vote will have no effect on the outcome of the election, you can vote for whoever you think is the best candidate.

Re:Don't vote, don't bitch (3, Funny)

pyrrhonist (701154) | more than 9 years ago | (#10181176)

If you don't vote you have no right to complain

This reminds me of a very old Dilbert:

Dilbert: ...and people who don't bother to vote have no right to complain.
Dogbert: Why not?
Dilbert: Why not? It's obvious. No vote means no right to complain. You can't get much more logical than that. Besides, that's how I was raised.
Dogbert: You were raised by bumper stickers?

Re:Don't vote, don't bitch (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10181249)

The really scary thing, as a non-american, is that every person I know from the US swears black and blue that they didn't vote for George W, yet around roughly half the votes were for him. And it looks to be the same this time around. So is anyone brave enough to come out and admit they're going to vote for him?

Maybe you know someone that will vote for W this time around.. chances are you know plenty. What's their reasoning? I'd really really like to know. I'm sure everyone would.

jury duty (0, Offtopic)

i621148 (728860) | more than 9 years ago | (#10180929)

do they select you for jury duty using voter registration records? everyone i have ever talked to who has been selected for jury duty has been registered to vote... is this a coincidence?

Re:jury duty (2, Interesting)

ReidMaynard (161608) | more than 9 years ago | (#10180973)

In North Carolina the Jury Duty list is gotten from the list of registered automobile owners.

For those unfamiliar with NC's drivers: (1)

The_REAL_DZA (731082) | more than 9 years ago | (#10181127)

Be very careful to obey the law in NC.

Re:jury duty (1)

TeaQuaffer (809857) | more than 9 years ago | (#10181219)

In the US, different states are different.

For federal jury duty, the lists are made from voter rolls.

For states, jury lists come from voter rolls or driver license lists.

Check out what Florida [alachua.fl.us] says, or Indiana [in.gov] ,

I think it would be much more constructive... (5, Insightful)

Jhon (241832) | more than 9 years ago | (#10180932)

to spend time and effort trying to increase awareness of local/state/federal issues -- an INFORMED voter is much more important than getting someone who is too apathetic to even register to vote to get up off his/her arse and actually VOTE. An uninformed vote is as bad (arguably worse) than just flipping a coin.

"Disempowered" indeed. It takes virtually no time to register and virtually no time to apply for and fill out an absentee ballot. Voting is easy and cost free (other than the effort it takes to take pen to paper).

Interesting discussion on the radio... (3, Interesting)

Nos. (179609) | more than 9 years ago | (#10180935)

Not long ago, we had a federal election in Canada, and this was a focus of some of the candidates, especially getting younger voters out. However, the discussion centered around voting and spoiling your ballot. I'm of the opinion that it is better to show up and spoil your ballot than not vote at all. I don't always vote for someone because often, its a case of "lesser of the evils" and I don't want to support any of them. However, I believe that spoiling my ballot may show the politicians that people are not happy with the choices available to them.

Re:Interesting discussion on the radio... (5, Insightful)

rainman_bc (735332) | more than 9 years ago | (#10181110)

Then don't waste your time voting. Chose the lesser of evils because they represent your voice.

The argument "they are all crap" is horseshit. They all stand for different things, and you pick the one closest. Remember, you aren't supporting them; you're also asking them to support you when they are in office.

You should vote in respect for the people throughout the world who die fighting for their right to vote. It's disrepesctful of those who've died for the right to vote to spoil your ballot.

Democracy isn't perfect, but it sure as hell is better than any other alternative out there.

Re:Interesting discussion on the radio... (2, Interesting)

Chess_the_cat (653159) | more than 9 years ago | (#10181175)

However, I believe that spoiling my ballot may show the politicians that people are not happy with the choices available to them.

Bullshit. If you can't find a candidate you like amongst the Bloc Québécois, The Canadian Action Party, The Christian Heritage Party, The Communist Party of Canada, The Conservative Party of Canada, The Green Party of Canada, The Liberal Party of Canada, The Libertarian Party of Canada, The Marijuana Party, The Marxist-Leninist Party of Canada, The New Democratic Party, The Progressive Canadian Party, or the Republican Party of Canada then you've got problems. Or if you honestly can't find someone to vote for then fucking RUN YOURSELF! Spoiling your ballot is the pussy's way out. End of story.

As a resident of North Dakota.. (4, Interesting)

Thng (457255) | more than 9 years ago | (#10180945)

I'm not eligible by the letter of the sweepstakes: "To win, you must be a registered voter in time to vote on November 2, 2004."

ND is the only state [state.nd.us] that does not have voter registration.

We just need a whole new election system! (4, Funny)

garcia (6573) | more than 9 years ago | (#10180951)

In a nutshell, we're doing this because we care, and because we can. We also like the idea of doing this because nobody else has done it before, and we like to do crazy, new things.

Plenty of institutions (MTV and the Republicans immediately come to mind) have done what they can to get people out to vote. I suppose in this day and age we basically have to coerce people into signing up to vote (which is exactly what the Hot or Not guys are doing).

My question is why do we have to coerce people to vote? Is it because popular opinion doesn't matter? Is it because of possible cheating at the polls? Is it because people just don't give a fuck?

Personally I believe it to be a mix of quite a few factors but I lean quite a bit towards not giving a fuck and it not mattering.

Perhaps part of the standardized testing that GWB has mandated should include more emphasis on Civic Duty? Perhaps they should better explain why it is important to vote even though we have a broken/antequated system that is unnecessary in this day and age. Fuck, perhaps we should just eliminate the entire Election system as it is and reinstate it as an episode of Survivor or American Idol.

Text message your votes now! Standard SMS rates apply!

Re:We just need a whole new election system! (1)

DAldredge (2353) | more than 9 years ago | (#10181092)

It would help if the two people running for president where not almost clones of each other and if they would listen to the people over corp interests. But they are mirrors of each other and corps have a much greater say in goverment than people do these days.

IOW, they think their vote doesn't matter.

Re:We just need a whole new election system! (1)

tuxette (731067) | more than 9 years ago | (#10181295)

It would help if the two people running for president where not almost clones of each other and if they would listen to the people over corp interests.

Not only that, third parties need to be allowed better access and exposure. Most states have these rules set in that basically squeeze out third parties due to their lack of big money. This means fewer choices for the people, which leads to the "why bother" attitude.

One good thing... (2, Interesting)

keiferb (267153) | more than 9 years ago | (#10180967)

...has come out of the several vehement campaigns to get Bush out of office: Lots of pushes to get people to register and vote. The average voter turnout in the USA is abysmal, so here's hoping some of these efforts succeed.

Viral distribution, eh? I wonder how long it'll be before one of the recent e-mail worms is rewritten to send out referral links to this thing.

English? (2, Funny)

JaredOfEuropa (526365) | more than 9 years ago | (#10180982)

...providing a selection advantage for viral dispersal of the meme
Whatever happened to plain English? For a minute I thought my PHB submitted this story :)

The mental midgets who go to that site can vote? (1)

CreamOfWheat (593775) | more than 9 years ago | (#10180983)

That is a scary thought ... since most Kerry supporters are brain-dead, I suspect the majority on hotornot to vote for that ass

How about fuck voting (1, Troll)

W32.Klez.A (656478) | more than 9 years ago | (#10180990)

You don't make a difference you fucking losers. I'll tell you how to make a difference: kill as many people as you possibly can.

And get this stupid politics.slashdot horseshit off here.

Re:How about fuck voting (1)

mosch (204) | more than 9 years ago | (#10181283)

He's saying this in a very confrontational way, but I agree. The only way to affect change is through action. People who fail to act in any way other than "voting" are just sheep, lining up to get sheared once more.

http://mkz6b2.VOTEorNOT.org Make me rich! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10180991)

http://mkz6b2.VOTEorNOT.org

Show me the money!

Carlin on voting (2, Interesting)

Democritus2 (553661) | more than 9 years ago | (#10180992)

George Carlin on voting:"Well, because it (voting) wouldn't make any difference. When fascism comes to this country, it won't be wearing jackboots; it'll be wearing sneakers with lights in them, and it'll have a smiley face and a Michael Jordan T-shirt on. They learned the mistake of overt control. They've learned how to be much subtler. No, I don't think my vote would mean anything, and at the same time, it would make me very untrue to myself to participate in what I really think is a charade."

Kinda sums up my beliefs

Sad commentary (2, Interesting)

MikeMacK (788889) | more than 9 years ago | (#10180998)

Well, it's a sad commentary on our society when we have to offer people money just to register to vote. Why aren't we all registered automatically when we turn 18? Whether you vote or not is up to you, but at least the excuse of not being registered would be gone.

Re:Sad commentary (1)

bmwm3nut (556681) | more than 9 years ago | (#10181098)

i think you should go one step farther and make it mandatory to vote. of course, it would be valid to cast and empty ballot to say "i don't trust any of the idiots enough to vote for one." but you should at least have to say that and take part in choosing the government.

Re:Sad commentary (1)

MikeMacK (788889) | more than 9 years ago | (#10181205)

I've thought about this, but I think its a bad idea. We should be free to choose to vote or not, even if only as a way to express dissatisfaction with the offered choices. With your method, the "I don't trust any of the idiots enough to vote for one" selection would probably win every election.

Re:Sad commentary (5, Interesting)

tuxette (731067) | more than 9 years ago | (#10181196)

In Norway, you get your voter card (the one that says where to go and vote and when) automatically sent to your registered address (more or less your tax residency). This is happens for all elections.

Foreigners in Norway are allowed to vote in local elections after 3 years of legal residency. After my third year here, I got my voter card in the mail. Unprovoked. No registration or anything. Very nice.

All of the Norwegians I know find the idea of having to register to vote very offensive and provokative. Some say that the reason why automatic "registration" doesn't exist in the US, is that if it were the case, people might actually vote!

Re:Sad commentary (1)

MikeMacK (788889) | more than 9 years ago | (#10181276)

That's cool. That's how it should work. There are a lot of theories on why we don't do that here. One being that, yes, "people might actually vote." Business and special interests run Congress. They have no desire to see the huddled masses registered.

If you're outside the USA, but still an American, (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10181012)

TellAnAmericanToVote.com [tellanamericantovote.com] has everything you need to register your choice from outside the USA. More than ever, the whole world has to pay the price if the neocons keep in power. This election is too important to let Diebold and Jeb decide it for you.

Re:If you're outside the USA, but still an America (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10181246)

Interesting site. But the stuff about not being taxed is bullshit. I know one person who had never lived in the US but has US citizenship who got audited by the IRS right after the 2000 election. How else would the IRS know of this person and where to find this person?

Mandatory Voting (5, Interesting)

trifakir (792534) | more than 9 years ago | (#10181018)

In Greece [cia.gov] the voting is mandatory [nationbynation.com] . The one who doesn't fulfill her social obligation to be responsible is fined. Greece is the oldest democracy.

In Belgium too (1)

clarkie.mg (216696) | more than 9 years ago | (#10181254)

It's also the case in Belgium. However, those who don't go to vote are not, in most cases, fined. But there is always the possibility ... of being fined and a lot of people prefer avoid it especially as voting is not a terrible task !

Re:Mandatory Voting (2, Interesting)

grammar fascist (239789) | more than 9 years ago | (#10181275)

Does that make it harder to oust the incumbent? It seems like it would: people who are otherwise not involved in politics are usually more likely to at least know the name of the incumbent.

If the challenger were someone like Ahnold, though, it would be a different story...so I predict that Greece's politics is full of career politicians and movie stars. :)

Re:Mandatory Voting (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10181314)

Hahaha, Greece was a fascist dictatorship for much of last century.

Why not vote Cthulhu? (4, Funny)

Kenja (541830) | more than 9 years ago | (#10181024)

Vote Cthulhu! [cthulhu.org] Why settle for the lesser of two evils?

Anyone not shocked... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10181064)

that the first "Politics" article is from Michael?

Don't say I didn't warn you.

Vote and Help a /.'er Win Some Mula (0, Redundant)

nherc (530930) | more than 9 years ago | (#10181065)

Register for the Contest [voteornot.org]

Be aware you are entered onto a mailing list which you can opt out of without effecting your entry. Instructions provided after entering.

If I win $10k will be donated to Slashdot's favorite charity.

Terms & Conditions [voteornot.org]

Illegal (1, Informative)

buzzn (811479) | more than 9 years ago | (#10181075)

Over here in California, it's illegal to offer an inducement to vote.

Re:Illegal (1)

buzzn (811479) | more than 9 years ago | (#10181104)

Correction to myself, it's illegal to offer an inducement to vote a certain way, so this should be legal.

Re:Illegal (1)

razmaspaz (568034) | more than 9 years ago | (#10181215)

This is also an inducement to REGISTER to vote. So it shouldn't matter either way.

the meme (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10181095)

the whatwhat?

MBA school pays off (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10181111)

providing a selection advantage for viral dispersal of the meme
Who actually talks like that?

Registration in Wisconsin (1)

LinuxWhore (90833) | more than 9 years ago | (#10181121)

In Wisconsin, AFAIK, most polling places allow you to register at the polls the day of the election, usually just requiring two items as proof of residency.

However, I don't think that you receive any proof of registration. I wonder what happens in this case?

Spam (3, Insightful)

dv8ed (697300) | more than 9 years ago | (#10181149)

The organizers have cleverly split the prize between a lucky winner and whoever happens to have referred them, providing a selection advantage for viral dispersal of the meme.
That's a hell of a lot of words to say that it encourages people to spam.

Democrat tactic..... (2, Insightful)

jsimon12 (207119) | more than 9 years ago | (#10181156)

Hmmmm, this whole registar to vote thing seems stronger then ever. Seems like the libreals are depending on people who generally don't vote to turn the tide.

Is it? (1)

AtOMiCNebula (660055) | more than 9 years ago | (#10181274)

Perhaps...or it could just be that many many kids don't bother, and that's not good for the voting system. At my high school, most of the seniors don't care about voting at all. There's only a few who are registered, or plan to.

And, don't be so quick to smash (if you aren't, I'm sorry, but it sort of seems like you have a negative tone). As many people who can vote should vote. Just because liberals groups (I'm not entirely sure if this is true, since I haven't seen any linking between these groups) are pushing this doesn't mean they're relying on people who don't vote. Couldn't the tables be turned by saying conservative parties aren't pushing people to vote because right now they've got enough people to vote for them, but they sure don't want any more new voters that could rock the vote? Just a thought.

I don't think these things should be associated with one side or the other. This website (and other register-to-vote things) aren't pushing their own candidates, so I see no reason they should be affiliated with one group. I'm not trolling, I just think someone should point this out.

biznAtmch (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10181162)

Missed Opportunity? (2, Funny)

romper (47937) | more than 9 years ago | (#10181168)

What they should have done was offer Free iPods or FlatScreen TV's... Then they'd have it spammed all over Slashdot and the rest of the world! =)

What about us? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10181174)

I'm one of the people who has been registered since 18 y/o, and voted in every election.

Do I get a f*cking prize?

Voter Registration and rights (2, Interesting)

razmaspaz (568034) | more than 9 years ago | (#10181186)

Personally I think if you have not voted in the past 3-4 elections you should begin to lose your rights as a citizen of the United States. The Constitution is based largely on the "Social Contract" I think that if one party (The voter) is not fulfilling their duties in the contract, the other party (the govt) should be exempt. Essentially what I am saying is that if you haven't voted in the last 12 years you should have your welfare cut off your fire/police coverage taken away and you should be sent to another country where the government no longer protects your borders. Hell I don't think you should even be required to pay taxes. If you don't vote, you should be banished from this country.

Register to vote? (2, Interesting)

Jezral (449476) | more than 9 years ago | (#10181189)

I've always thought registering to vote is silly. In order for a democracy to work, you need as many as possible to vote, so requiring them to register first is inconvenient (and we all want convenience).

Here in Denmark, every person over 18 is sent a card and a place/time to vote. No registration. The result is that 80+% actually vote...

Yeah ok, so we are a small (5.3 million) country so it's easier to manage here. Still makes it a much better way.

Disempowered? (1)

e9th (652576) | more than 9 years ago | (#10181191)

I'm beginning to really hate that word. It seems that everybody who is on the losing side of an issue, or who bears some other grudge against society, thinks of himself as "disempowered."

Intelligent Voting (1)

Antony-Kyre (807195) | more than 9 years ago | (#10181210)

Whether it's the primary or November election, it's best to read up on the issues and all the candidates. Too many people simply pick a party and vote based on that. You really have no idea what the candidate stands for until you read the voter's pamphlet.

Fool! (1)

beaverbrother (586749) | more than 9 years ago | (#10181227)

You should have posted a referal link in your slashdot artical. That would vastly improve your chances of getting the $100 k

voting is statistically worthless (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10181280)

It's worth less than the effort of voting, that is. The chances of your votes effecting the outcome of the elections is very nearly zero. (In many races, it is zero, unless most people stay home -- which they won't.) It's just not worth the effort of getting in your car or buying (or even licking) a stamp -- just like it's not worth your $1.00 to buy a chance on a huge lottery.

Only the statistically challenged buy lottery tickets and vote.

us-election.org (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10181311)

Slightly off topic, but a group has created a site to allow the world to vote in the US presidential election, unoffically of course. The site is http://www.us-election.org/ [us-election.org] .
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