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Atari To Release Old Games and New Console System

michael posted about 10 years ago | from the when-emulators-aren't-enough dept.

Classic Games (Games) 322

GrueMaster writes "Atari is announcing the re-release of their older games for the PS2 & Xbox. They are also talking about releasing a new console, which is a miniaturized version of the 7800 with built in games. Check out the story here. Being a collector of old Atari stuff, I'll be in line to get mine."

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Lots of issues (4, Interesting)

AKAImBatman (238306) | about 10 years ago | (#10182080)

1. How is this different from the joysticks you plug into your TV? I personally like the idea of the joysticks, but I'm not sure I would pay $45 for a PS2 CD.

2. Nostalgia can be ruined by pushing quantity over quality. Since they'll be packing 85 games on the disk, there will be little incentive for players to play any one game for long enough to "master" it.

3. Who has the patience to master these games? Back in the day, we were bored. I remember spending hours on end in front of my GW-Basic interpreter, because it was rewarding. Now I can just pop on the internet and find all the information about BASIC that was so hard won. Alternatively, I might find something quicker and easier. I think the later would be the result for many Atari players.

4. The Atari games were pathetic compared to their arcade counterparts. Why bother with a pixelated version of Defender, when you can grab the arcade version in one of those joystick thing-a-ma-bobs?

5. Profit!!! (Hah! Pre-empted you on that one!)

Here's what I think Atari should do: Create a console on par with the SNES. That sort of hardware should be extremely cheap at this point, and could easily be manufactured for retail prices in the $20-$40 range. Sell simple "smart card" games (or something equally as inexpensive to manufacture) for $5-$10 a piece. This should give them several major selling points:

1. It mini, it's cheap, and it's cool!

2. The low cost will cause parents to consider it for a quick present for their kids.

3. The low cost games will encourage "impulse buys".

4. Very little expense would need to go into R&D.

5. Profit!!! (Did it again! ;-))

Re:Lots of issues (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10182142)

Not for Nintendo?
Got to hell Atari!

Re:Lots of issues (5, Informative)

Shadow Wrought (586631) | about 10 years ago | (#10182148)

but I'm not sure I would pay $45 for a PS2 CD.

Well, you won't have to. The CD is $20, the mini console with twin joysticks (Oldskool Style) and built in games is $45.

Re:Lots of issues (1)

networkBoy (774728) | about 10 years ago | (#10182156)

I really like your idea of a mini console w/ smart card based games. If they did that and did not lock it down too hard it would be a hacking dream! I'd likely line up to buy a couple off the bat, though they would need to ensure that the platform was, its self, profitable or else they'll loose money on people like me who buy multiple consoles simply to cut them up (as opposed to pirating the games, which I've found to be less than rewarding so I quit)
-nB

Re:Lots of issues (3, Interesting)

microTodd (240390) | about 10 years ago | (#10182182)

Nostalgia aside, I love playing the older "classics" but the problem I have is with the controller. My PS2 controller just doesn't work the same for games designed to be played with joysticks.

Re:Lots of issues (1)

networkBoy (774728) | about 10 years ago | (#10182265)

Nostalgia aside, I love playing the older "classics" but the problem I have is with the controller. My PS2 controller just doesn't work the same for games designed to be played with joysticks.

I solved that problem HERE [no-ip.com] for using old Atari joysticks with the Stella Emulator. Only catch is it is a hack on the Xbox not PS2. This brings up another point . . . will they be using old school style joysticks on their stand-alone product? I hope so because I only have two joysticks left and need a couple spares. I RTFA and couldn't tell what the standalone was going to use for user input.

Re:Lots of issues (4, Insightful)

funkdid (780888) | about 10 years ago | (#10182224)

I don't think anyone who didn't own these at one point would buy it. If some teenager ends up with this, it's cause his dad bought it for him. It'll end up next to the other crap that was "fun in my day". For us though, us conesoures of fine video games, us cultured folk who can gain amusement from really bad sound and worse graphics...

OK this is strictly a nostalgia thing. I found my 2600 a few years ago. I played it a bunch for a few days. It sucked. It was a lot of fun to break out the old classics that I grew up on but after a while it still only has one button and honestly combat SUCKS. I'll take Unreal of Counter Strike out whatever over Combat any day. -Anyone remember Keystone Coppers that game rocked.

Re:Lots of issues (1)

funkdid (780888) | about 10 years ago | (#10182257)

-disclaimer I meant to hit the preview button to check spelling.-

Me normmal spell well but me in hurree and not yet all the way recover from Layber Day

Re:Lots of issues (3, Interesting)

xanderwilson (662093) | about 10 years ago | (#10182318)

Here's what I think Atari should do: Create a console on par with the SNES. That sort of hardware should be extremely cheap at this point, and could easily be manufactured for retail prices in the $20-$40 range.

I'd love to see this, but it kinda already exists in the used/retro gaming market. Sega and Nintendo systems are available for well under $40 and the used games can be cheap enough to be impulse buys.

Granted, there are drawbacks--dead saved-game batteries need to be replaced, finding instructions (when necessary) and game info can be difficult, cartridges are big and bulky, and some of the better games are rare and therefore expensive. And of course there's nothing new coming out.

But the selection couldn't be better, especially for someone who didn't have the cash as a kid to enjoy the systems the first time.

Alex.

Re:Lots of issues (4, Interesting)

gphinch (722686) | about 10 years ago | (#10182362)

I had a friend who worked customer service for the toy company that made those joysticks with the games built in. He said those joysticks accounted for something like 9 out of the 10 calls he received about broken toys. He also gave me several free ones before I got one that worked, and even that broke within 6 months. PS: The ps2 game is going to be $20. RTFA :)

Re:Lots of issues (1)

mangusman (778529) | about 10 years ago | (#10182398)

Now if Mattel would re-release the Intellivision games!

Re:Lots of issues (4, Informative)

OoSync (444928) | about 10 years ago | (#10182422)

Here's what I think Atari should do: Create a console on par with the SNES. That sort of hardware should be extremely cheap at this point, and could easily be manufactured for retail prices in the $20-$40 range. Sell simple "smart card" games (or something equally as inexpensive to manufacture) for $5-$10 a piece.

Its called a Game Boy Advance. It satisfies all of your criteria, and games from the Atari-era forward are often rereleased on it. You can even play those games on a TV using the GameBoy Player from Nintendo, or a hardware modification available online.

satisfies all criteria... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10182454)

...except the low price, which is probably the main point.

fp! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10182082)

gnaa is teh sukc!

btw the a's are mixed up too (as are the o's)

foo (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10182083)

assmaster

Re:foo (2, Informative)

aka-ed (459608) | about 10 years ago | (#10182199)

The cd is $20.

The retro console is $45.

Next time, don;t read so fast in your rush to "fp"

An Atari by any other name still smells as sweet (5, Informative)

stecoop (759508) | about 10 years ago | (#10182084)

For those of you that followed Atari back in the day; you may be surprised to see the name rise from the grave. The name was bought by Infogrames [infogrames.com] :

On May 7, 2003, Infogrames officially announces its name change to Atari. The Company's U.S. operations became Atari, Inc. (formerly Infogrames, Inc.) and changed its trading symbol on the NASDAQ National Market to "ATAR." Although the holding company parent in France, Infogrames Entertainment SA, retained its current name and maintained its symbol on the Euronext under the code: 5257, all of the Company's worldwide operations were renamed Atari. The Company gained all rights to the Atari license when it acquired Hasbro Interactive, Inc. in December 2000.

I guess this is a re-re-re-release (I probably don't have enough res) of the old titles; it make me wonder how long will these games will be around?

Re:An Atari by any other name still smells as swee (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10182120)

Nah, those old titles were pretty low-res. You're fine.

Re:An Atari by any other name still smells as swee (2, Funny)

AKAImBatman (238306) | about 10 years ago | (#10182146)

On May 7, 2003, Infogrames officially announces its name change to Atari. The Company's U.S. operations became Atari, Inc. (formerly Infogrames, Inc.)

Ouch. Here we go with the Caldera/SCO debable, all over again.

"But it's not the same Atari! I'm telling you!"

Re:An Atari by any other name still smells as swee (2, Funny)

RWerp (798951) | about 10 years ago | (#10182491)

Now I would like to see the resurrection of Sir Clive Sinclair...

I'm getting one! (0)

networkBoy (774728) | about 10 years ago | (#10182087)

While I already own many games and use stella to play them on my xbox, I'll likely still buy a compilation CD, just for kicks.
-nB

2800 (3, Funny)

Zoshnell (573838) | about 10 years ago | (#10182093)

What about us 2800 people? Why don't we get our comeuppance? I WANT MY SPACE INVADERS OLD SKOOL!

Frist post.

Re:2800 (1)

No Tears In The End (452319) | about 10 years ago | (#10182131)

Poseur Alert!!!!

Atari's early systems were named in iterations of 2600. Hence the 2600, 5200 and 7800.

LK

Re:2800 (2, Informative)

GerbilSoft (761537) | about 10 years ago | (#10182248)

Not quite. The 2800 was the Japanese version of the 2600. There were also several other oddly numbered systems that were and weren't released, such as the 2700 (2600 with RF controllers).

Nostalgia for 2600 games (1)

Ra5pu7in (603513) | about 10 years ago | (#10182286)

ET (gak! Was that game ever frustrating?)
Superman (didn't get very far since it was borrowed)
Olympics (balls and paddles -- up to four players)
Surround (man did we waste hours with that one)
Tank Plus (tanks, planes, more hours of fun)

I have to wonder what games my kids will think of with nostalgia in 20 years. Sadly, the first five or six that came to mind are all franchises that they've never played the original for.

Re:2800 (1)

Zoshnell (573838) | about 10 years ago | (#10182346)

Ack. Its been a long time, and the system wasn't mine. But still, I demand the 2800 make its revival. screw the 2600 ;)

Re:!2800 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10182240)

The Atari VCS (Video Computer System) number was known as the 2600. I'd like to see a 400/800/ST comeback personally.

Protector and Shamus rocked.

The 2800 really existed (5, Informative)

mr_angry (668532) | about 10 years ago | (#10182293)

The Atari 2800 existed, in Japan, looked like the 7800
You can find info about it on the net, i found some on http://www.atarihq.com/museum/2678/2800.html [atarihq.com]
They also say it was sold in the USA by Sears...

Re:2800 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10182303)

Failyure si em. I Am TeH LoSs!

Re:2800 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10182502)

2800? You want transistors boy? I don't know.. kids today. Core, When I was a lad we had a single value and were greatful for it..hehe ;)

Slashdot needs an Atari section. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10182097)

CmdrTaco's wife sucks my dick.

First post!!! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10182100)

ZOMG LOL ROFL FIRST POST I'VE EVER DONE YAY!!!11!!1!

It's always good to see those retro games back. Go go Atari!!

Indiana Jones on the 2600 (0)

bigattichouse (527527) | about 10 years ago | (#10182106)

And the dreaded Tse-tse flies! I loved Indiana Jones... That and Empire strikes back with the AT-ATs. I wonder if "E.T." will be released ;) - bugs and all!

Re:Indiana Jones on the 2600 (1)

j_presper_eckert (617907) | about 10 years ago | (#10182368)

>I wonder if "E.T." will be released

Sure. I'll bring the C4 to crack the concrete pad at the not-so-top secret landfi^H^H^H^game "archive". You get to paw thru the rubble. Good luck in not getting trapped in the pit just like E.T.!

Demand (2, Insightful)

MikeMacK (788889) | about 10 years ago | (#10182109)

The video game company told The Associated Press on Tuesday it plans to reissue scores of its classic titles from yesteryear on a single disc that can be played on the game consoles Xbox and PlayStation 2.

These have been released for the PC for a while and with all the emulators, etc. out there, I have to wonder if there is a demand for this?

Re:Demand (1)

ackthpt (218170) | about 10 years ago | (#10182149)

These have been released for the PC for a while and with all the emulators, etc. out there, I have to wonder if there is a demand for this?

Keep in mind there's a whole generation (or 1.5 generations) who never had a chance to play some of these in arcades. They're still fun games, the trick is you practically need to show them already being played to attract interest, where hype usually moves something like d00m 3

Re:Demand (1)

MikeMacK (788889) | about 10 years ago | (#10182337)

I guess that's my point - if they are selling to the generation who never played them in the arcade - how do they compete with modern titles, like Doom3? If they are selling them to me and my generation (I remember when getting a role of quarters was heaven on earth) then how do they get me to buy it for the Playstation or Xbox when I can already play them on my PC.

Re:Demand (1)

StocDred (691816) | about 10 years ago | (#10182461)

Right, but most consumers are not you. Most consumers have never neard of MAME or emulators and don't wish to tread through porn-riddled warez sites to find them. For most people, seeing those TV Games Joysticks or these compilation disks is the first time they've seen these games in years.

I don't think that younger generations are the true target audience, except for those unlucky enough to be denied the more expensive consoles by their parents. (In my day, the cheapo alternative to an NES was those crappy LCD handheld games.) These collections are pointed squarely at nostalgia dollars.

And as for why YOU would buy it, well, this would be a legal alternative to all those ROMs you "own." If that doesn't make a difference to you, then, no, you're not going to buy it.

Sound (3, Interesting)

ackthpt (218170) | about 10 years ago | (#10182113)

When Atari re-released a bunch of their classic games for the PC they did a decent job preserving good sound quality. Tempest was always a favorite for the vector graphics and awesome sound, which you can really crank up on a decent set of speakers.

I was sorry not to see Gauntlet included, maybe that'll be in the future. Crystal Castles was always visually appealing and fun (if aggrevating at times.)

FREE AD (-1, Offtopic)

radiumhahn (631215) | about 10 years ago | (#10182117)

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Re:FREE AD (1)

ghost_world (785065) | about 10 years ago | (#10182258)

Hey, Big Deal!

As long as they're not making any money off of posting this, what's wrong with mentioning a new product that readers of /. might be interested in?
Do you hassel your freinds when they tell you about something that they saw/got that they think you might like?

More details... (4, Informative)

JamesD_UK (721413) | about 10 years ago | (#10182118)

See here [atari.com] for more details of the Atari Flashback Classic Game Console.

Saw something at Futureshop (4, Insightful)

Nos. (179609) | about 10 years ago | (#10182129)

On Sunday, at Futureshop (a friend wanted to go) we saw a PC cd of 80 classic Atari games, some of the ones that jump to mind are: asteroids, defender, combat, circus, joust. It was about $20 (CDN) The screenshots looked like the games I remember playing as a kid. I love some of those games, but I'm scared to play them again as I wonder if I'll ruin my memories where I actually enjoyed these games.

Re:Saw something at Futureshop (2, Interesting)

jericho4.0 (565125) | about 10 years ago | (#10182250)

I downloaded a whack of ROMS and emulators, cause I wanted to wallow in nostalgia. Guess what. All those games really suck compared to online-multiplayer-3d-actionfests. Some do have great gameplay, it's true, but I'm still amazed I spent so much time on them.

But will it be the same.... (5, Funny)

rokzy (687636) | about 10 years ago | (#10182140)

....if you don't have to blow dust from the connectors when sticking in the cart?

And knowing which of your joysticks is a bit stiff and giving that to your friend?

And will it be the same when you see it on your massive widescreen TV instead of a little 14" that made anything seem high resolution?

Re:But will it be the same.... (2, Interesting)

g00z (81380) | about 10 years ago | (#10182393)

Or in the case of the Nintendo, the old "stick a second cartridge in on top of the first cartridge to make the game play" trick (after you blew into both the cartridge and the nes, of course). There was another trick involving the reset button but I can't remember it.

Oh yah. Up-Up-Down-Down-Left-Right-Left-Right-B-A-B-A-STAR T.

Re:But will it be the same.... (4, Funny)

kin_korn_karn (466864) | about 10 years ago | (#10182453)

And knowing which of your joysticks is a bit stiff and giving that to your friend?
So you're the guy that bought and enjoyed Custer's Revenge!

Re:But will it be the same.... (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10182576)

I wait until my joystick is a bit stiff and then give it to my girlfriend.

I just hope they fix the controllers (2, Interesting)

rsilvergun (571051) | about 10 years ago | (#10182144)

the 7800 had the worst controllers in history (yes, worse than the 5200). They wore out quickly, where useless when they did, and where downright painful for long play time.

MAME (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10182155)

People no longer have a legit reason to copy Atari ROM's for emulators. In fact, they have never had a legally or ethically reason for Atari ROM's and any other copy righted ROM's.

Regards

Re:MAME (1, Insightful)

El Cabri (13930) | about 10 years ago | (#10182352)

To me they did : I consider it ethically all right to violate the copyright of works that are made unavailable otherwise by the unwillingness of the rights owner to "copy" them anymore.

Ah (1)

MC Negro (780194) | about 10 years ago | (#10182171)


They are also talking about releasing a new console, which is a miniaturized version of the 7800 with built in games.
If it's anything like this [jakkstvgames.com] I'm happy :-)

Justifying Bootlegging (4, Interesting)

mcrbids (148650) | about 10 years ago | (#10182173)

This is one of those cases where justifying "abandonware" sites becomes much more difficult.

Just because they aren't selling it today, doesn't mean that they never will.

Abandonware sites work on logic somewhat like: "Well, you have this car, but since you've left it parked in the driveway for 6 months without using it, you shouldn't complain if we hotwire it and go joyriding in it... we'll return it so you don't lose anything!"

So long as there is a concept of "Intellectual Property", however fictitious in reality, these issues will remain. It's either the law, or it's not - and if you don't like it, change the law!

Re:Justifying Bootlegging (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10182260)

"Just because they aren't selling it today, doesn't mean that they never will."

Right. During the twenty years or so when they're being left to rot, though, it's hardly surprising abandonware sites will spring up.

"Cashing in" is not a noble impulse.

Re:Justifying Bootlegging (1)

StocDred (691816) | about 10 years ago | (#10182511)

"Cashing in" is not a noble impulse.

Neither is "stealing."

Re:Justifying Bootlegging (4, Insightful)

geeber (520231) | about 10 years ago | (#10182361)

Abandonware sites work on logic somewhat like: "Well, you have this car, but since you've left it parked in the driveway for 6 months without using it, you shouldn't complain if we hotwire it and go joyriding in it... we'll return it so you don't lose anything!"

The logic is more something like, "Well, you have this classic car parked in the driveway, and since it isn't made anymore, I am going to duplicate the plans and build one for myself. Your car still works."

Big difference there.

Re:Justifying Bootlegging (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10182449)

"Well, you have this car, but since you've left it parked in the driveway for 6 months without using it, you shouldn't complain if we hotwire it and go joyriding in it... we'll return it so you don't lose anything!"


No. It is like saying... You never use this car so I am going to use my magical duplicator to make a clone of your car for my own use. Your car stays safe in the driveway rotting away.

Re:Justifying Bootlegging (2, Insightful)

Dr. Zowie (109983) | about 10 years ago | (#10182471)

Just because they aren't selling it today, doesn't mean that they never will.


Not that I would encourage copyright violation, but the issues are more complex than that. These re-issues of old games (including the PS2 stuff, the TV plug-in boxes, yadda yadda) are, no doubt, inspired by the thriving emulation scene.


It's entirely possible that, if not for the swift kick in the pants to industry delivered by MAME and the like, these games would still be languishing in a corporate basement somewhere.

Re:Justifying Bootlegging (5, Insightful)

LordNimon (85072) | about 10 years ago | (#10182561)

This is one of those cases where justifying "abandonware" sites becomes much more difficult.

On the contrary! The reason why these games are still popular is because of the abandonware sites. These sites kept the market alive, and now the companies see that there is still a demand. If these sites had never existed, the games would truly be dead, and the companies would see no reason to bring them back.

So you see, the companies should be thanking the abandonware sites.

Patenets and Copyright (4, Insightful)

ajuda (124386) | about 10 years ago | (#10182175)

These games should be public domain already... Patents and copyright are supposed to increase innovation, but they are doing the exact opposite. When a company can simply repackage and sell the same ol' stuff over and over again, why should they invest their money in new (potentially risky) endeavors?

Re:Patents and Copyright (1)

adsl (595429) | about 10 years ago | (#10182313)

So you don't think that "Atari" takes any risks, or doesn't spend money? Try counting how much money they spent on "ETM" and "D3"! Why shouldn't Atari re-issue games, especially if they package them up as they have done. I bet a number of surprised youngsters will see this in their Christmas stocking this year, given by Parents who want their kids to enjoy what they played with as kids.

Re:Patents and Copyright (1)

runderwo (609077) | about 10 years ago | (#10182584)

It's not that they shouldn't re-issue games, it's that the economic motivation created by copyright should lean towards creating new works. Unfortunately there is no motivation to do so, outside of flat demand for older titles, when you have perpetual copyright on your existing library.

Ooh Ooh Ooh (3, Funny)

StalinsNotDead (764374) | about 10 years ago | (#10182178)

Does this mean we can finally play "ET the Extra-Terrestrial" again?

Re:Ooh Ooh Ooh (4, Interesting)

g00z (81380) | about 10 years ago | (#10182441)

Dude, if you can find the landfill, your hearts desires will come true:

From www.sjfanboy.com:

"Myth has it hat Atari expected E.T. to be such a popular game that they produced more cartridges than there were systems. When the game failed they supposedly buried millions of copies of E.T. in a desert landfill. The truth is Atari actually made 6 million E.T. cartrdiges and there were 20 million systems out. According to a former chief engineer at Atari there were more E.T. cartridges then there were VCS's in active use. By the time E.T. came out the VCS was 6 years old. According to Ray Kassar, president of Atari in 1983, the story about burying E.T. and Pac-Man cartridges in the desert is an "absolute lie." He claims they were dumped in discount stores. One ex-Atari vice president stated "Bullshit! They drove 14 freight trucks onto New Mexico, dug a pit, dumped millions of cartridges, drove a stram roller over them, then poured cement on top
of them."

Emulation... (1)

jmcmunn (307798) | about 10 years ago | (#10182189)


I am a huge fan of the atari emulators on the PC and Xbox. But I have to say that I will likely get a copy if the Xbox version of this as well. There's something about it being 'legal' that increases the coolness factor.

Plus it will be funny to show my dad that all of the games he bought be as a kid are now on a single CD, and still being played on my Xbox today!

Now if only I could track down the old school games I used to play on the computer...anyone remember 'Tooth Invaders'? :-)

Re:Emulation... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10182434)

Yeah man! I remember playing that on the ST! That was awesome! (Came free on the cover CD of the ST-Format Magazine I think!). Awesome game. Only ever had a demo though..

Re:Emulation... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10182490)

Hahah! I loved that game; I had it on cartridge for my VIC-20. I liked Omega Race more, though.

Atari For Dummies (2, Interesting)

eBayDoug (764290) | about 10 years ago | (#10182191)

MaMe and stella may work for smart folk, not for the masses and nostalgia freaks who actually buy stuff.

Atari? (1)

geekster (87252) | about 10 years ago | (#10182192)

I thought Atari was just a brand name getting thrown around these days?...

Nostalgia for the 7800? (4, Insightful)

huchida (764848) | about 10 years ago | (#10182195)

2600, 5200, Intellivision, Coleco nostalgia I can see... As well as NES, of course... But wasn't the 7800 a terrible flop?

Eh. Good luck, Atari. You'll need it. Nintendo can sell us Excitebike, Zelda and Super Mario again because they always were and will be great games. Anything that could be considered "great" on the 2600 was only because we didn't have anything better.

Re:Nostalgia for the 7800? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10182470)

Mods please DELETTE AND BAN this is a KNOWN TROLL

Re:Nostalgia for the 7800? (1)

NaugaHunter (639364) | about 10 years ago | (#10182493)

The 7800 flopped because of when it came out and poor marketing. However, it could play 2600 games so they might as well go with that and have more game options/better graphics.

Nostalgia for the NES... (2, Informative)

rubberbando (784342) | about 10 years ago | (#10182513)

2600, 5200, Intellivision, Coleco nostalgia I can see... As well as NES, of course... But wasn't the 7800 a terrible flop? Eh. Good luck, Atari. You'll need it. Nintendo can sell us Excitebike, Zelda and Super Mario again because they always were and will be great games. Anything that could be considered "great" on the 2600 was only because we didn't have anything better.

I know I'll probably get modded for being offtopic, but there is a comparable mini-console for NES games. They have a kiosk over the mall near where I live, I think the device is called "SuperJoy" or something like that. Anyways, its $50 and claims to have 2000 NES games built in (in reality its closer to 100 or so games). It comes with 2 gamepads and a lightgun. Everytime I pass their display, I'm tempted to buy one. I'm sure if you google "Superjoy" or "PowerJoy", you might find one of these gray market devices.

Recently when I was over there, I noticed that have a new device they are selling. It's a stand-alone DDR pad (also $50), but the stupid thing is 8-bit and I can't imagine who would want to play DDR to old midi music. :-P

Arcade Hits CDs from a garage sale (2, Insightful)

JUSTONEMORELATTE (584508) | about 10 years ago | (#10182203)

This summer I found the two CD set for Atari Arcade Hits (volume 1 and 2) for $5.
I've played a LOT of tempest this year. :)
I highly recommend searching eBay if you want this stuff, or simply searching garage sales for old CDs.


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Atari's game image (3, Informative)

BorgDrone (64343) | about 10 years ago | (#10182211)

Too bad atari (the old atari, not the current owner of the brand) had an image as game console company, they made a great desktop system, the Atari ST. Man I loved that machine, I still have my Mega ST 1 lying around somewhere.
While my friends where fooling around with DOS, I had a system with a GUI (in 128KB rom) a nice high-res 640x480 monochrome monitor. I used WYSIWYG dtp and word processing software (great for school papers) while the rest still used WordPerfect for DOS.
It was cheaper than an IBM PC too.

Too bad their marketing department sucked ass, everybody assumed an Atari was a game system, and I had to explain over and over again they make desktops too.

Hmm.. (1)

attam (806532) | about 10 years ago | (#10182217)

... i am pretty sure i have an atari emulator already installed on my xbox. but, i guess there are people out there who like the "feel" of the old skool gamepads and such. i wonder, when will nintendo re-release the virtual boy - greatest console EVER! ;)

Re:Hmm.. (1)

sordit (745824) | about 10 years ago | (#10182451)

Yes.. you're right. Without the right controller there's something missing.
I especially experienced this playing old Amiga 500 games via UAE.
I would prefer if some old school controllers like the Atari 7800 pads and the Competition Pro would hit the market again (with pc gameport connector) instead of those redone consoles. Why wasting money and ressources for something which can be easily emulated?

shamless self plug... (0, Offtopic)

drgath0150 (811433) | about 10 years ago | (#10182219)

Totally off topic, but /. is the best resource for IT legal discussion that I've come across. I've been accused of pirating a $25 program and would like some advice before I consider settling for the demanded amount of $80. Not going to go into depth of details here, but if you could offer any advice, I would really, really appreciate it. Email me at dgath[n.o.s.p.a.m]@msn.com. Thanks

Promotional item (4, Funny)

Mannerism (188292) | about 10 years ago | (#10182234)

Free ET cartridge with every purchase.

Re:Promotional item (4, Funny)

jeffehobbs (419930) | about 10 years ago | (#10182447)

...slightly dirty.

~jeff

Why combine them? (1)

two-tail (803696) | about 10 years ago | (#10182247)

Do you still have all of your old Game Boy carts? Well, you can throw them away, because even though the Game Boy Advance SP (or whatever its called now) supports old GB carts, you can still by SP-enhanced (SP-munged?) versions of old games at about $20 a pop!

I'm surprised Atari doesn't do that...

This isn't good for us... (2, Insightful)

garcia (6573) | about 10 years ago | (#10182256)

For a community that is generally pro-emulation I cannot believe you guys are supporting Atari! You don't want them to rerelease games for newer architectures. Then they are no longer pieces of abandonware software, they can claim anyone spreading their older software under emulation is warezing, etc...

Yay, I can run antiquated games on expensive modern hardware for money. Personally I was more pleased when it was getting spread around in the emulation scene for free.

Original carts and kids (2, Interesting)

falkryn (715775) | about 10 years ago | (#10182259)

This is neat, but actually I still find myself buying old used carts for my Atari. They aren't hard to find, and are often pretty cheap. One is the nostalgia factor for me, but also, is the fact that I have a five year old who likes games and computers. We also have a game cube, but I've noticed a ton of difference in terms of my son's reactions when playing the different systems. On the GC (and on Windows), my little guy zones out, and often will get angry at some point (like when I tell him to turn it off). When playing on the Atari, I noticed he actually just has fun. I hear him laugh, obviously enjoy himself, and act a lot more positively than with the newer stuff. So, we somewhat strictly limit when and what he can play on the modern machines, but the older one is fine. What the old systems lacked in graphics and sound, they did have a clearer idea what video games are supposed to be about, having fun.

But then I could just be a retro guy. (We also don't get Nicolodean and such garbage in our house. But I have downloaded old episodes of He-man, Smurfs, Gummy Bears, etc., for him. PBS and TVO are both decent however.)

Sears, Atari, and Journey (4, Interesting)

Didion Sprague (615213) | about 10 years ago | (#10182287)

Off-topic, but nostalgic:

What I remember is the *Sears* branded Atari console. I'm not sure why, but the Sears console was my first exposure to non-pong video games. I remember our old Sears, too -- it had that Sears smell (which exists to this day in any Sears store) -- and I remember the Sears Atari rigged up in the "sporting goods" section of the store -- which seemed to have a lot of tennis rackets, tennis balls, and lawnmowers -- surrounding the big television.

We'd plant ourselves in Sears, play Combat for hours, sip Orange Julius's, and eventually make our way to Aladdin's Castle (with the requisite 'Aladdin's Castle smell'), get 20 (25?) tokens for five bucks, and play stuff like Pac Man, Tron, Pole Position, and that "Journey" game -- they released it during their 'Frontiers' tour, I think -- where you hopped Steve Perry over rock formations and guided Neil Schon (sp?) up and down some weird cave without touching the side.

Wow. It's all coming back now.

Re:Sears, Atari, and Journey (2, Funny)

angrykeyboarder (791722) | about 10 years ago | (#10182375)

My last visit to a Sears store was when I bought a DVD Player in December of 2002 (the "other guys" were out of stock of the model I wanted).

I don't recall this "smell" you speak of...

Re:Sears, Atari, and Journey (1)

CrazyClimber (469251) | about 10 years ago | (#10182535)

My brother and I decided that we *had* to get an Atari the day of the biggest snowstorm of the season (northern Minnesota). My dad had to shovel not only the driveway, but the alley and a good portion of the side street to get to the only street that was plowed.

Aladdin's Castle used to give you 40 tokens for five bucks, which was great because you could sell five tokens for a dollar, recoup, and still have tokens. You could also fool some games into giving you a credit by spinning a penny through the slot.

The best part about the Journey game for me was the way the "roadie" looked so much like the Kool-Aid Man.

Re:Sears, Atari, and Journey (2, Interesting)

iocat (572367) | about 10 years ago | (#10182582)

OT, but I once traced the SEARS SMELL to their candy counter. IIRC (I was about 7), the genesis of the smell seemed to be some mixture of caramel corn and regular popcorn. As far as I know, Sears hasn't had a candy counter in YEAR. And yet, the smell persists. WTF? Is it just memory bringing back the smell, or does it somehow linger in the corners?

Might have to get one (1)

g0bshiTe (596213) | about 10 years ago | (#10182289)

I might actually get one of these. You remember when the joystick with atari game came out what last year? I had to pass that one up. My old Atari 2600 works and I still use it to play those games.

Tempest, Lunar Lander, Super Breakout, Asteroids D (1)

javaxman (705658) | about 10 years ago | (#10182298)

Those games alone ( oh, and Battlezone, too? OK! ) are going to justify the $20 price tag for the Anthology PS2 disc, in my eyes. This is exactly the kind of thing they *must* do if they want to be able to bitch about people trading ROMs for MAME.

And really, if I can play BattleZone with the dual analog controls on my PS2 dualshock controller? I'd *rather* play it on the console... this and the Sonic Mega Collection [gamespot.com] are going on my xmas list, right next to GTA: San Andreas [rockstargames.com] , of course...

The complete list... (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10182299)

The complete list of games found in Atari Flashback includes:

Adventure(TM)
Air Sea Battle(TM)
Asteroids®
Battlezone®
Breakout®
Ca nyon Bomber
Centipede®
Crystal Castles®
Desert Falcon(TM)
Food Fight(TM)
Gravitar®
Haunted House(TM)
Millipede®
Planet Smashers(TM)
Saboteur(TM)
Sky Diver(TM)
Solaris(TM)
Sprintmaster(TM)
Warlords ®
Yar's Revenge

Personally, I won't be buying this. The only Atari game I want to play again is 'Dungeon Master' - but that wasn't a console game as I recall. I used to play it on my Atari ST way back in 1988 or so. That was one cool game!

the color is not the right color (1)

Threni (635302) | about 10 years ago | (#10182377)

> "You're right to say that a lot of them are bootlegged, and the code is not the
> right code, and the color is not the right color.

Perhaps this guy goesn't know how an emulator works! The interview would have been more interesting if it had been with someone who was a little more technical.

Re:the color is not the right color (1)

oberondarksoul (723118) | about 10 years ago | (#10182533)

From TFA, it doesn't appear like they're talking about emulated games - more remakes. Ever seen how many clones there are of Tetris, for example? This may be what they're talking about, in which case, it's an apt response. Still, they could've been clearer.

Best way for nostalgia (1, Insightful)

El Cabri (13930) | about 10 years ago | (#10182413)

All Atari systems were too primitive. Actually the most interesting period for nostalgy playing is the late 80s-early 90s 16/32 bit systems. Their games were seriously designed (often in Japan) for playability and are therefore still fun to play even today. Their 2D graphics were still abstract and cartoony enough so as not to shock someone used to contemporary 3D like for example a PS1 or a Dreamcast would, yet not as ridiculously blocky and ugly as on a 2600. And they are abundant, and hence dirt cheap, on eBay. A functionning system and tens of games for under $75, shipping included.

Acording to Atari.com... (2, Informative)

rubberbando (784342) | about 10 years ago | (#10182419)

The Anthology [atari.com] has 18 arcade games and 62 Atari 2600 games. And the mini-console [atari.com] is going to be a mixture of 2600 and 7800 games.

Atari? (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10182428)

Why would anyone want to play Atari games anymore?
With all of the great new gaming systems on the market don't you think it's a bit lame to reproduce outdated games?
I mean, it's not like I would pay good money for an old 286, just cause it's retro... but maybe that's just me.

sage@infosolgroup.com [mailto]

Can you trust Infogrames to get these right? (1)

ZipR (584654) | about 10 years ago | (#10182437)

They couldn't even get the Atari logo right! Ch-check it out!

Will they rerun the commercials? (1)

pyrrhonist (701154) | about 10 years ago | (#10182467)

Under fifty bucks!

FIFTY BUCKS?!?

Now isn't that nice?

(Why, oh, why do I remember that Godforsaken commercial?)

No Pole Position! (1)

D3 (31029) | about 10 years ago | (#10182476)

Bah, without Pole Position who cares!

People will buy it (1)

MinusBlindfold (775913) | about 10 years ago | (#10182495)

I know some people that were growing up back then and played all the atari games, etc. A lot of those people are now not really what i would call computer-literate enough to figure out how all the emulators and such work on a PC... they want to play the games with no fuss.. something as simple as a new console or a disc for your ps2/xbox is great.

Cool but where's the fun in that? (2, Insightful)

igrp (732252) | about 10 years ago | (#10182514)

I think it's cool that they're re-releasing the games I grew up with. But I agree that it's mostly a nostalgia thing. Back in the days, this stuff used to be cutting edge. These days, it still feels nice to play pick up a controller and play one of the old games for a few minutes but it's different.

First of all, it really makes you feel like an old fart, especially if you have kids. And, trust me on this, these games are dorky and far from exciting to anyone who plays them for the game, and not for the memories and geek bragging rights. Plus, it just is not new, sexy technology any more. In the old days, we didn't mind typing up pages and pages of BASIC code - that was an integral part of the fun. Try doing that nowadays. Chances are you'll just feel it's pointless. Times do change.

There's some cool stuff going on in the do-it-yourself scene though. Over at the Xbox-Scene forums [xbox-scene.com] there's lots of discussion about creating custom controllers and even full-blown old-school arcades. And since the Xbox is pretty hackable, with MAME readily available [x-arcade.com] (Sourceforge link [sourceforge.net] ), it's just a natural choice.

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