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AtariST Emulation Finally Lands on Dreamcast

timothy posted about 10 years ago | from the world-can-rest-easy dept.

Emulation (Games) 35

wraggster writes "Tonight has seen the Release of the Worlds first Atari ST Emulator for the Dreamcast by Ron of MadriDC fame & Chui. The emulator is a port of Castaway to the Dreamcast and already runs most games at full speed."

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Naysayers run your self-checking routines! (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10231259)

I'm really happy every time I see an update on the underground DC development. Its great to see some solid hardware released that is extremely affordable ($15 at regular retail stores!) and flexible enough to develop tons of applications for. Not to mention the amount of fun you get out of it. It's an exponential return on your investment.

Without a doubt though there will be countless people trashtalking this very post in a very short time. Why? "Dreamcast is dead", "Why would you want to waste your time with an old system?" "Don't you have a life?" "I bet you can't get laid!"
Etc. etc. etc.

I see it every time, but I don't think people even stop and think about the crap that comes out of their minds when looking at a project someone put time into on a dead platform. They're too far gone and completely owned by the media.
My point is: why do you people bother living? It's like you're dead already, seeing that a multi-million dollar corporation has it's fist firmly placed up your rectum and flapping your jaws away with whatever they'd like to hear you say. You should really stop and think where you get these ideas, and when you ask yourself: "Why do I clown on people modding old hardware", check yourself as soon as you hear that little voice say "because it's lame!". Is that really the reason? Where do you get that idea? Is it because the PS2 and Xbox look soooo much sexier on those MTV commercials? Because the voice on the radio tells you what to like? Just like they tell you when to be angry, sad or happy and what breakfast cereal to buy?

So yeah, that's about all I have to say. When you come into this forum and start trolling around other peoples hobbies, just remember to finish all your sentences with nice, clear "Mooo" so we all know where you stand.

Thanks.

Re:Naysayers run your self-checking routines! (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10232209)

Without a doubt though there will be countless people trashtalking this very post in a very short time. Why? "Dreamcast is dead", "Why would you want to waste your time with an old system?" "Don't you have a life?" "I bet you can't get laid!" Etc. etc. etc...

But hey, you could preemptively slander everyone else, and make your case that much stronger.

My point is: why do you people bother living? It's like you're dead already, seeing that a multi-million dollar corporation has it's fist firmly placed up your rectum and flapping your jaws away with whatever they'd like to hear you say.

Oops, you already did. Nevermind.

Re:Naysayers run your self-checking routines! (3, Interesting)

Goldberg's Pants (139800) | about 10 years ago | (#10233390)

He does make a good point though. All the PS2/GC/XB fan boys will bang on about it, when the DC is a fantastic machine. Dirt cheap. Tons of home brew stuff. If you're not against downloading you can pretty much get every game ever made. (Not that you can get the majority through legitimate channels anyway.)

It's criminal the machine died. It's easily up there with the PS2 on graphics. It just got killed by shitty marketing and other companies not supporting it (Electronic Arts for example).

Some of the most eclectic games I've ever played are on my beloved Dreamcast. I'd rather sit and play Tokyo Bus Guide than the latest shovelware shit from EA anyway.

Re:Naysayers run your self-checking routines! (1)

Acidic_Diarrhea (641390) | about 10 years ago | (#10234456)

The people who post comments saying that the Dreamcast is dead are just posting flamebait to incite people. Yet, this thread isn't even a reply to that flamebait. It's a reply to the concept of that piece of flamebait. It's silly.

Furthermore, the concept of being 'hip' and 'underground' is absolutely silly. The Dreamcast was a mainstream console that failed to sell well enough for Sega to continue manufacturing it. It does not represent some sort of elite console for only the cool kids.

This thread is nothing but nonsense. Don't discuss whether or not homebrew games are a good hobby, discuss the homebrew games.

Re:Naysayers run your self-checking routines! (1)

Goldberg's Pants (139800) | about 10 years ago | (#10240851)

And you're continuing a silly thread.

And now, so am I...

Re:Naysayers run your self-checking routines! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10329380)

yeah, it was good to see that rant in response to all the fanboy comments...

what? there weren't any?

oh well then that was just asinine.

Re:Naysayers run your self-checking routines! (1)

1arkhaine (671283) | about 10 years ago | (#10233489)

Well said. I'd have posted AC too.

Of course, thinking that way pretty much by definition denies a whole avenue of originality and innovation (with better/easier hardware), but, happily, it also allows for great ingenuity with the current limitations of hardware (in this case the DC)

Re:Naysayers run your self-checking routines! (1)

cluke (30394) | about 10 years ago | (#10234989)

This reminds me of that character Harry Enfield used to do of the guy who got incredibly worked up over things that hadn't even happened.

"That Neil Armstrong guy, he walked on the moon, well done, total hero, lovely fellow, great ambassador for humankind, but if he was to come round to my house and he was to kill my dog, I'd be like OI!!! ARMSTRONG!! NO!!!"

Re:Naysayers run your self-checking routines! (1)

88NoSoup4U88 (721233) | about 10 years ago | (#10236953)

Nice post ;

A shame half of it is lost (imo) , by posting it as an AC.

Re:Naysayers run your self-checking routines! (1)

Pluvius (734915) | about 10 years ago | (#10239411)

Without a doubt though there will be countless people trashtalking this very post in a very short time. Why? "Dreamcast is dead", "Why would you want to waste your time with an old system?" "Don't you have a life?" "I bet you can't get laid!"

How about "Why would someone release an Atari ST emulator for a system for which few people have a keyboard?"

Just because some criticisms of a project are illogical doesn't mean that all of them are.

Rob

DC emulator (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10231266)

Sorry if this is off topic, but for those who don't have a Dreamcast. There is a Dreamcast emulator that emulates Homebrews (such as this atari emulator) and commericals games at almost full speed. It hasn't been mention in /. before, so check Chankast out:

http://www.chanka.org

If you like it, don't forget to donate to encourage them for futher improvement. It will be open source once they release version 1.0.

Re:DC emulator (2, Informative)

Thing 1 (178996) | about 10 years ago | (#10231512)

It will be open source once they release version 1.0.

They obviously don't get the whole point of open source, then...

And what guarantee do we have that they will "eventually" open the source?

Re:DC emulator (2, Interesting)

drinkypoo (153816) | about 10 years ago | (#10261267)

What do you have to lose in the meantime by the fact that it's closed? It's not like they're expecting you to contribute to the program, or they'd make it open source. They probably just don't want to release code with which they are highly embarrassed. There definitely have been projects released to open source only after they have hit a certain preannounced point.

Re:DC emulator (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10232920)

read the fucking article, the authors state it doesnt run in chankast, mod parent down kthx

Re:DC emulator (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10233376)

It hasn't been mention in /. before, so [....]

Quite wrong. [google.com]

Re:DC emulator (2, Informative)

Shakey_Jake33 (670826) | about 10 years ago | (#10244416)

Chankast does not actually run host homebrew titles yet.

The main issue is that most homebrew titles use a homebrew OS called KallistOS (that way there's no issue of legality).
As of yet, Chankast seems to only run games using the official Sega 'Katana' OS.
The emulator is also incompatible with commercial WinCE-based games.

Emulator X for Platform Y is not news anymore (3, Interesting)

Kris_J (10111) | about 10 years ago | (#10231316)

Seriously, anyone who cares about specific emulators for a given platform, are already reading DC Emulation [dcemulation.com] , AtariAge [atariage.com] , Zophar's Domain [zophar.net] or something else that covers these events earlier and in more depth than /.

It's not like this was the first Atari ST emulator ever. It's a port for crying out loud.

Re:Emulator X for Platform Y is not news anymore (3, Insightful)

aliens (90441) | about 10 years ago | (#10232564)

Not like we're getting inundated with news here in the Game section though.

And Dreamcast holds such a special place in so many hearts :)

Re:Emulator X for Platform Y is not news anymore (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10233039)

Not like we're getting inundated with news here in the Game section though
Meanwhile, the politics section is full of stories. It's as if Slashdot is growing up before our very eyes. *sniff*

This is so awsome (1)

LennyDotCom (26658) | about 10 years ago | (#10231328)

If I can find the put put mini golf game for the ST that I used to waste so much tax payers money on while I was in the Air Force that would be so coooool!!!!

Re:This is so awsome (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10232573)

It's called Zany Golf

News for Nerds... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10231382)

/. News for Nerds, Stuff that... ah ferget it.

Obsolescence - with new improved extra oldness! (-1, Flamebait)

ArmorFiend (151674) | about 10 years ago | (#10232580)

Wow, and here I was about to throw out my Dreamcast because its obsolete and failed. But wait! There's an emulator that lets it behave exactly like another system! Great! Only that system is even older and more failed. Yay!! Wait! I guess that means I should throw it out even faster!

Re:Obsolescence - with new improved extra oldness! (4, Interesting)

Dot.Com.CEO (624226) | about 10 years ago | (#10233241)

The Atari ST was by no means a failed computer. In fact, the home computer market was 60% Amiga's and 40% Atari's. Also, due to the inspired move of putting MIDI ports to STs, you could see Ataris in recording studios well after it was abandoned by Atari.

Also, the Dreamcast, even though a failed system had great games of excellent quality. Just because the market decided it didn't like the Dreamcast it doesn't necessarily mean it was a bad console. It was not. Compared to anything else at the time, it was the best console out there.

Re:Obsolescence - with new improved extra oldness! (1)

Goldberg's Pants (139800) | about 10 years ago | (#10233397)

Compared to anything else at the time, it was the best console out there.

Compared to them NOW it's still a great machine. When you figure in all the homebrew stuff, and look at how the other consoles are, the DC is the ultimate geek console.

Not sure I buy that Amiga/ST ratio. I knew about 30 people with Amiga's. I knew one person with an ST. (That was England in the early 90's.)

Re:Obsolescence - with new improved extra oldness! (2, Informative)

Dot.Com.CEO (624226) | about 10 years ago | (#10233962)

Germany was Atari ST territory. Some of the best software for the 68k architecture was made there including Callamus (sp?), an amazing dtp program, the fastest text editor I have EVER seen, Tempus, and of course Alladin's Mac Classic emulators that ran Mac software FASTER than Macs. Amigas were amazing machines as well, and yes, when I moved to England (1993 I think) I remember seeing Amigas much more than I did STs. The ST had a big presence in the continent...

Re:Obsolescence - with new improved extra oldness! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10236200)

I can't say I knew anyone with either (though I would've given my left arm for an Amiga). Everyone I knew jumped from the Commodore 64 to PC-compatibles.

Re:Obsolescence - with new improved extra oldness! (2, Informative)

Goldberg's Pants (139800) | about 10 years ago | (#10240872)

I went from the Sinclair Spectrum to the Amiga. My friends went from the C64 to the Amiga. I was the last of my friends to abandon the Amiga (a move I've regretted ever since, but it lives on in the new awesome WinUAE which runs full tilt on my machine for the first time).

The fact is, it took Doom and Heretic to make us switch, yet looking back, the Amiga scene was far less of a creative vacuum than the PC. I've been revisiting old games on the emulator and the Amiga was such a great little machine. Check out some of the old demos and you see graphical tricks that I doubt even the most up to date PC's could pull off. Those custom chips were marvelous, and the system was ahead of it's time.

Too bad Commodore fucked it up with their marketing:(

The old obsolete was more fun? (1)

Fallen Andy (795676) | about 10 years ago | (#10247270)

Darned right. A lot of ST's lived on a long time thanks to the built in MIDI port. I wouldn't be
surprised if a few live on in a dusty corner of
a recording studio just in case...

My colleague (in the UK back in the 80's) Phil Camp did the (TDI) Modula-2 compiler. Cheshire cats wouldn't have grinned as
much as he did when he returned from ETHZ (after
meeting Nicky). But, compilers got forgotten and
all hail the new coding project (play with the casio keyboards he'd just bought).

We spent a pleasant few days hacking around with it instead of (uh) doing productive things.

This is also how I got to see a very early (modern)
word processor (Andra, also from ETH) if anyone
is foolish enough to read any of my other posts.

But, let me get this right - an emulator for a mostly
rusted machine (however worthy) running on a dead
console (can't comment on worthiness).

Hmm. Seems a waste of brainpower to me...

The home computer market (at least in the UK
and Europe) was *never* the percentages you mention. Mostly it was Sinclair Spectrums (marketted as Timex something or other in the US)
and Amstrad CPC's with the odd Sinclair QL, C64,
a few BBC model B's and archies (87 on).

Amiga's really found their niche in video apps
(toaster?), although I would have *killed* for
one (I had to settle for a second hand Sage II
and TV925 terminal)).

Always hated the Tripos (Metacomco) derived AmigaDOS particularly for it's wonderful molasses
slow file system...

Re:The old obsolete was more fun? (1)

Dot.Com.CEO (624226) | about 10 years ago | (#10248533)

The ST and Amiga came out considerably later than the ZX and the generation you mentioned - 86 I believe, while the Spectrum came out in 82. While the 68000 based home computers never really achieved the notoriety of the 8-bit computers, they were not really competing with them. Even Amstrad was moving beyond the ZX at the time, by desecrating the Sinclair name by making the horrendous all-in-one PC (it was marketed a Spectrum, wasn't it?). Anyhow, our US friends never really experienced the magic that was the Spectrum, so I thank you for reminding me of those times.

FINALLY (1, Funny)

quintessent (197518) | about 10 years ago | (#10232941)

I mean. I've been waiting FOREVER to be able to emulate an Atari ST on my Dreamcast. I've been so worried about this that my girlfriend left me and my dog rolled over and died all in the same week. Then the boss called to fire me, and I said, "But it's going to happen soon. I can just FEEL it!" but nobody believed me. They thought I was insane.

But I knew who was really insane.

Wow (2, Insightful)

MilenCent (219397) | about 10 years ago | (#10232960)

A full-speed Atari ST emulator for Dreamcast? This is really, really cool guys. There isn't even a full-speel SNES emulator for DC yet.

Re:Wow (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | about 10 years ago | (#10261255)

Just goes to show, the Atari ST is a simple machine. Show me the full-speed Amiga emulator next please :) Actually, I care much more about a SNES emulator than anything else, there's an absolute boatload of SNES games.

Where has simoniker gone? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10235305)

He always posted more interesting things than this.

Re:Where has simoniker gone? (1)

Pluvius (734915) | about 10 years ago | (#10239454)

Here [gamasutra.com] .

Rob
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