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XM Radio Plans Online Music Service

CowboyNeal posted more than 9 years ago | from the joining-the-fray dept.

Music 199

Grump writes "Diving into the already crowded online music business, XM Radio Online, will launch sometime in early October and operate commercial-free, just as its satellite programming does. XM will charge $7.99 per month for unlimited listening and offer a discount rate of $3.99 to subscribers of its existing radio services."

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Hope they don't mind me (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10261403)

Time-shifting the broadcasts using Total Recorder [highcriteria.com] .

Not off-topic mods (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10261437)

Please pay attention! XM caused some trouble for the guy that wrote software to timeshift XM using their usb device.

Re:Not off-topic mods (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10261667)

OMG! What deos it maen? Does it run on teh Fodera 2??

Thank you for teh gay informaton!

Nice attempt... but competitor's already there! (5, Interesting)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261406)

XM's "add streaming of our music online" for $3.99 sounds like a pretty cool deal when taken alone, but their main competitor Sirius actually includes that feature for free with purchase of the main subscription. They'll even offer a 3-day trial of the streaming service for non-subscribers in the hopes of convinving people to sign up based on that. Of course, Sirius charges $3 a month more than XM for their base subscription.

Re:Nice attempt... but competitor's already there! (2, Interesting)

Carnildo (712617) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261444)

$7.99/mo sounds pretty good if you don't want an OTA subscription.

Re:Nice attempt... but competitor's already there! (1)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261645)

$7.99/mo sounds pretty good if you don't want an OTA subscription. $7.99/mo. doesn't sound that good to me when $9.99/mo. to either Real or the new Napster gets you unlimited playing of anything you want to download for as long as your subscription remains current.

Re:Nice attempt... but competitor's already there! (2, Interesting)

nvrrobx (71970) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261468)

(Disclaimer: I'm a Sirius customer and shareholder)

I would hope that XM uses higher quality streams than Sirius. I tried to use Sirius's streams from work, but since I'm confined to a set of headphones, it sounds absolutely atrocious.

XM has to do something now that they've axed the XMPCR!

Re:Nice attempt... but competitor's already there! (4, Informative)

helix400 (558178) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261764)

Another online radio competitor is Yahoo's launchcast [yahoo.com]

They do an excellent job. The free version is very nice, and the full version is $3-$4 a month. The free version has lots of programmed stations already in, and it uses your tastes and ratings to constantly build your own radio station. This isn't a shameless plug...I just really like it. The variety in the music I want to hear makes perfect background music while at work.

The downside is that it only works with IE. Boo!

yep (3, Insightful)

BoldAC (735721) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261408)

It makes perfect sense (cents?)

They already have the structure setup to spit out tunes and news. As people get addicted to it in their car, they'll naturally want it at their desk too...

Wouldn't surprise me if they offer it for a cheap add-on to their existing service.

Re:yep (3, Funny)

jerw134 (409531) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261459)

Yeah, it would be awesome if they offered it to existing subscribers for like $3.99 or something. Hopefully they do it!

Re:yep (0)

iamatlas (597477) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261807)

Yeah, but what would really be even better is if they took their existing subscriber base, that currently pay the normal monthly fee, and offer this computer-based streaming service for, oh, I don't know- like $3.99.

Re:yep (3, Funny)

dykofone (787059) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261663)

It'd be really cool too if they made most of their receivers [xmradio.com] portable, like so you're not stuck only listening to it in the car. Like, just have this little adaptor [xmradio.com] that the receiver can plug into, and you can quickly switch it between car, office, home. They could even make a boombox [xmradio.com] sorta thing!

Yeah, right, but when is a big company like XM gonna cater to the demands of their fans and customers....

Re:yep (1)

Ageless (10680) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261710)

If only they WOULD do exactly that for the Roady2. I bought one a few weeks ago, and I really, really, REALLY love it, but the home kit is not yet available. I didn't realize that before I bought it, so I've been scrounging parts together here and there so I can listen to my XM in places aside from my car.

But yea, they generally already do everything one could need.

And XM rules.

Just get a DC power supply (1)

Andy Dodd (701) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261825)

And stick your antenna out the window. (Or you may be able to leave the window closed if there is no screen.)

My Roady (original, not 2) home kit is taking forever, I just switch the antenna between listening locations.

I'd pay the extra $4/mo if:
a) it works under Linux
b) It isn't restricted to a single computer

Would reduce stress on my Roady's connectors bringing it inside from the car every night.

Re:yep (1)

iamatlas (597477) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261859)

I would love a portable kit for the Roady so I could use it like a walkman inside/outside. Really all you'd need to do is buy/hack a small battery pack to make it fully wireless. There would still be the problem of reception though- in my car, with the antena mounted outside, I lose reception just going down a street that has trees whose branches are overhead. I'd need more gain on the antena to be able to use this anywhere, and a stronger antena would be larger, negating the portability factor. O well, sat radio still rocks, sirius (my brother has it for sports) or XM (i have it for everything else)

Re:yep (1)

moonbender (547943) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261822)

Quality post. You managed to mock the grandparent and general Slashdot sentiment, but in an intelligent way that doesn't hurt anyone, and at the same time transmit valuable information. I know I should leave the moderation to the mods, but I felt it would've been a shame if the humorous side among the Informative moderation the post might get. :)

discount rate of $3.99 (0, Redundant)

dan_sdot (721837) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261411)

A "discount" rate? Why is it not free?
For sirius satellite radio, you can stream over the internet for free (if you already have a subscription).
This seems ridiculous.

Re:discount rate of $3.99 (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10261438)

For sirius satellite radio

Surely you can't be sirius....


Thank you, thank you. No checks. Cash only, please.

Re:discount rate of $3.99 (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10261456)

I am serious, and please stop calling me Shirley.

Re:discount rate of $3.99 (1)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261487)

Because Sirius charges $3 a month more for their base month-to-month plan... so with them you're paying for the online streams even if you don't use it.

Re:discount rate of $3.99 (1)

randomiam (514027) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261518)

Also, Sirius almost all of Sirius' stations are commercial free. (IIRC, all of the music stations are commercial free, but the news and sports channels do have commercials.)

Re:discount rate of $3.99 (2, Insightful)

Lord Kano (13027) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261593)

A "discount" rate? Why is it not free?

Because they're a business. Because they have expenses.

LK

Why? (0)

cyberzephyr (705742) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261413)

What's the use of buying something that your are paying for in the first place? Hell stick a CD in the player if you want to hear something specific.

THis XM stuff is going too far to the wild side.

Re:Why? (1)

Carnildo (712617) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261490)

What's the use of buying something that your are paying for in the first place?

Huh? What article are you reading?

To me, it sounds like what they're offering is internet streaming of their 100+ channels. If you're not a subscriber to their broadcast service, you can get it for $7.99. If you are a subscriber to their broadcast service, you can get it for $3.99.

Re:Why? (1)

lucabrasi999 (585141) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261605)

What's the use of buying something that your are paying for in the first place?

Huh? What article are you reading?

I might be way off here, but I think the poster meant to say "Why pay for something that you can get for free in the first place?" I'm guessing that because he doesn't seem to agree with paying for satellite radio when he can turn on the regular radio in his home or office.

Re:Why? (-1, Flamebait)

BoomerSooner (308737) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261773)

It's perfect for me. There are essentially 2 radio stations in Oklahoma. Clear Channel and Argyle (or whatever the hell they are called), they are both Republican owned and operated (very fucking right wing religious nutty). XM via the internet would allow me to listen to Air America and other programs not available in the Republican media state I live in (no wonder this state votes republican so much when they do us so much harm economically).

Re:Why? (1)

magarity (164372) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261776)

Because XM is free of advertising. Someone has to pay for broadcasting and with commercial radio, it's the advertisers. With XM, it's the listeners. This makes perfect sense. What I don't get is people who pay for cable television service whose channels run ads.

In addition (1, Informative)

Andy Dodd (701) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261847)

The variety and choice on XM is far greater than XM.

I've heard a lot of stuff on XM that I would never hear on your average Clear Channel station.

I love my XM receiver.

As far as the Sirius fanboys saying Sirius includes it for free:

a) Sirius programming is more "mainstream" (i.e. Clear Channel-style) than XM from what I've heard
b) Above posters said the Sirius streams are crap quality
c) XM is $3-4/mo less than Sirius for the base sub.

Sirius has this for free already (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10261415)

This service is already free for subscribers to Sirius service. Sirius is $13 /month.

kexp.org is excellent and free (2, Informative)

Dan667 (564390) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261420)

I am sure there are numerous others free online services for different genres of music. Why would you shell out for this?

Re:kexp.org is excellent and free (1)

dan_sdot (721837) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261440)

I am sure there are numerous others free online services for different genres of music. Why would you shell out for this?
And how about iTunes? They have quite a few channels.

Re:kexp.org is excellent and free (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10261488)

Why would you shell out for this

For the same reason you might plunk down, fork over or cough up for this.

Why is the likelihood of hearing "shell out" inversely proportional to the actual price? $3.99 is a medium coffee.

Re:kexp.org is excellent and free (1)

Dan667 (564390) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261589)

I should have put free as in beer. Slashdot non-subscription accounts are also free.

Re:kexp.org is excellent and free (1)

lucabrasi999 (585141) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261648)

$3.99 is a medium coffee.

Wow. Where are you buying your coffee? Is the mug gold-plated? At most Starbucks-type coffee shops, a medium coffee (sorry, TALL) is about $1.50.

Now, I could understand spending $3.99 for a latte...

Re:kexp.org is excellent and free (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10261785)

Good God, people! $3.99 is a whole CAN of coffee! Make it yourself at home and SAVE! Ever heard of a Thermos?

Re:kexp.org is excellent and free (1)

Carnildo (712617) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261523)

I am sure there are numerous others free online services for different genres of music. Why would you shell out for this?

A greater variety, plus the news and talk channels.

Sirius anyone? (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10261424)

Sirius already offers this *free* to subscribers. Why would you want to pay $4?

Not impressed (3, Interesting)

Spazholio (314843) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261429)

Sirius already offers this included in the cost of their service. Hell, you don't even need to be a subscriber to use it. You can sign up for a 3-day trial, wait for it to expire, then sign up again (according to their customer service).

Oh, and XM isn't 100% commercial-free, where Sirius is.

Re:Not impressed (3, Informative)

wikki (13091) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261537)

Actually neither XM or Sirius are 100% Commercial Free. The news, talk and variety stations have commercials. However the music stations on both are commercial free.

Re:Not impressed (2, Informative)

Wyatt Earp (1029) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261546)

XM's music channels are commercial-free, stuff like the radio station mirrors, I think there are 4 music stations that way, and the sports and news stations are not commercial free.

Everything else is.

Re:Not impressed (1)

ad0gg (594412) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261698)

KISS station mirror is mus^h^h^h commercial free.

But its not like I listen to it, I swear!

I would sign up for this. (1)

evslin (612024) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261435)

I love internet radio, but listening to heavy metal on my Launchcast station 9 hours a day at work tends to wear thin after awhile. If the online offering is anywhere near as expansive as what's currently offered, I would definitely throw down 8 bucks a month for the service.

Re:I would sign up for this. (1)

knapper_tech (813569) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261616)

If I busy sorting through my collection, I'd be streaming from digitally imported [www.di.fm] right now. Techno never gets old. I shell out 9 bucks and am considering shelling out more because I want to support di.

Um, hello, Sirius is already online for FREE. (4, Interesting)

MufasaZX (790614) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261445)

All Sirius Sat Radio [sirius.com] subsribers can listen to all their audio streams online for free (as in beer) for the past several months, how can XM possible claim this type of service is 'new and special' and charge for it???

Re:Um, hello, Sirius is already online for FREE. (2, Insightful)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261528)

"Free as in beer" doesn't quite describe what's going on here. It's closer to "Free as in the toy in a Cracker Jacks box" in that it's free if you're already purchasing the main subscription which just happens to cost more than XM's...

Re:Um, hello, Sirius is already online for FREE. (1)

Carnildo (712617) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261556)

How much do I have to pay if I just want the online streams, and not the broadcast version?

Or is that option not available?

Re:Um, hello, Sirius is already online for FREE. (2, Insightful)

Tyler Eaves (344284) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261617)

Yes, they're also like 32kbit MP3 streams that sound like complete shit.

Re:Um, hello, Sirius is already online for FREE. (3, Informative)

Manitcor (218753) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261688)

Sirrus also costs about $3-$4 more a month for the regular service. So you ARE paying for the online service with Sirrus even if you don't want it. At least XM gives you the choice.

Re:Um, hello, Sirius is already online for FREE. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10261850)

your sig is lame

Awesome, now I can record Art Bell (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10261461)

Yes, I could join their StreamLink service, but this only costs a slight bit more and gives me access to a lot more stuff.

Just music or all of the XM menu? (2, Insightful)

erick99 (743982) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261462)

I wish the article had specified whether or not the online service will include the non-music channels such as the sports channels or just music. Since the title is XM Radio Online and it is, I think, replacing the XM PC reciever, then wouldn't it seem that it is for all of the XM service? However, why charge $7.99 for an online version of XM Radio instead of the $9.99 charged if you own the radio receiver? The article does refer to it as a "online music service" as well as XM Radio Online so it's not 100% clear if it just for the music channels or all of the channels. Well, maybe somebody knows?

Erick

Timeshifting? (2, Interesting)

ticklemeozmo (595926) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261481)

Only if I can get a ripper.

Re:Timeshifting? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10261510)

Only if I can get a ripper. ~~~~~~~~shoa im fukcin

Re:Timeshifting? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10261804)

For a ripper, try being lucky with google
and "station ripper" as your search string.

Re:Timeshifting? (1)

GoRK (10018) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261592)

There are plenty of utilities to rip streaming internet radio already, even from the most DRM-encumbered proprietary sources. Most utalize totalrecorder in conjunction with some window-watching to figure out when the songs change.

So the real question is... (0, Offtopic)

dan_sdot (721837) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261482)

Okay, so this may be a little offtopic, but...
Which satellite radio service is better in you /.er's opinions? I was already leaning towards Sirius because of the free internet streaming and nfl, but xm seems to have a few more channels.
What do you think?

Re:So the real question is... (1)

erick99 (743982) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261536)

I decided on XM Radio earlier this year when I decided to try satellite radio. I am a big "talk radio" fan and XM has a lot of talk radio channels from the typical political "right/left" to Art Bell, with channels for pro sports, college ball, NASCAR (one channel just streams audio from within a chosen race car), home improvment, ad nauseum. It is about the best $9.95 I spend per month. Oh, yeah, almost 100 commercial free music channels covering just about every imaginable genre of music.

Erick

Re:So the real question is... (1)

Askjeffro (787652) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261669)

I've had both:
sirius>xm

One of the reasons is the "free" online listening I've had for over a year now. I also find Sirius plays better tunes IMO.

quality? (1)

zboy (685758) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261486)

What's the bandwidth of their sattalite offering compared to steaming from the internet? and would their internet braodcast be higher quality than FM?

streaming vs. audience choice (2, Interesting)

twizzlybear (795481) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261491)

not sure how this is different from any number of countless other free streaming music resources on the internet... i think the bigger question is, do people want streaming of someone elses choice or do they want unlimited choice of their own? we may all jump quickly to the conclusion that we'd like 100% choice all of the time, but there is quite a phemonemon emerging as of late called tivo-itis, where so many are observed getting stuck in ruts at their own content programming ineptitudes and gleefully leap back to pre-programmed channels very interesting topic and one that will certainly continue to impact media markets as VOD and other viewer choice options emerge and are able to compete with pure pre-programmed options

Thanks (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10261493)

But I think I'll just download the music for free instead, thank you internet.

XM radio? (1)

here4fun (813136) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261495)

What is so great about XM radio? I use FM radio and don't have any complaints. Is XM more clear or something?

Re:XM radio? (5, Funny)

Tyler Eaves (344284) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261509)

>I use FM radio and don't have any complaints

Are you in some bizarro world where FM doesn't run 20-25 minutes of commericials per hour?

Re:XM radio? (1)

here4fun (813136) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261538)

Are you in some bizarro world where FM doesn't run 20-25 minutes of commericials per hour?

That is why I have presets. I switch from station to station. And most of the good rock stations have blocks of music, like 10 songs in a row.

Plus, it is free!

Re:XM radio? (1)

Skater (41976) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261772)

When there are only two or three stations available that carry music you like, it's harder to switch to a different station. I have 6 presets for the DC area, and frankly I have trouble filling them.

And then the stations coordinate their commercial breaks to make it useless to jump around...

--RJ

Re:XM radio? (1)

TheAwfulTruth (325623) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261777)

At home that might be useful... kind of. But still insanely annoying to constantly have to switch stations. I stopped listening to the radio completely about 6 years ago because the ads got so bad, not just in number, but in sheer annoyance. Loud, rude, disgusting, it just got worse and worse. Coupled with the blanding of all radio station content and the already PITA of living where there are hills and having to switch radio stations while driving every 20 minutes.

XM solved everything. Nothing but music, everywhere I go. Well worth the subscription price! (to me)

Re:XM radio? (3, Funny)

cubicledrone (681598) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261569)

where FM doesn't run 20-25 minutes of commericials per hour

Oh, it's great! Especially when you hear a song you really like and think, "oh, that's really a nice song--" YOUUUOOUUUVE GOT THE GReeEEeeEEN LAYYYYGHT boomboomboomboomboomboom chuckachuckachuckachucka ARE YOU PAYING MORE FOR YOUR HOME LOAN?? REFINANCE AGAIN AND SAVE 47 CENTS TODAY!! SPECIAL PRICE FOR TEN REFINANCES BY TUESDAY!! CALL NOW CALL NOW CALL NOW CALL NOW

Yeah. I think we've had enough commercials for a while.

Re:XM radio? (2, Insightful)

Wyatt Earp (1029) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261584)

Not to mention the fact that say, a Classic Rock FM station has the same play list, and they have had the same play list for the last 20 years?

2-4 Zeppelin songs.
1-3 Rush songs.
3-5 AC/DC songs.
1 Jethro Tull song.
A Dead block in the middle of the night on a weekend.
5-9 other misc songs.

Repeated over and over since 1984.

XM radio, I've heard classic rock bands I've never heard before, like Sweet, Moot the Hoople, MSG, UFO, etc.

Re:XM radio? (1)

Tyler Eaves (344284) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261636)

Totally agreed. XM's "Top Tracks" channel is basically the greatest classic rock station ever. I'm listening to it right now.

Current Track: Joe Walsh - All Night Long
Previous: Humble Pie - 30 Days in the Hole
Before That: CSN&Y - Marakkesh Express

Re:XM radio? (1)

Wyatt Earp (1029) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261666)

Three songs that haven't been on Classic Rock FM since two weeks after thier singles came out.

Re:XM radio? (1)

Skater (41976) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261758)

You forgot the annoying DJ prattle. Oh, man. One by one the DC area radio stations replace their current DJs with even more annoying ones, and I stop listening! The classic rock station in DC used to advertise how they didn't talk much in the morning, but now they're just as bad as the others...

Pretty soon CDs are the only thing I'll be able to listen to. I'm definitely a satellite radio candidate, but I haven't decided yet whether to get XM or Sirius.

--RJ

Re:XM radio? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10261816)

Are you in some bizarro world where FM doesn't run 20-25 minutes of commericials per hour?

NPR, for 10 months out of the year.

Re:XM radio? (1)

reboot246 (623534) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261813)

I have XM in my truck because I travel and work in places that don't get a clear FM or AM signal. I can drive 500 miles and never have to change the station. Plus, XM has news/talk channels, CNBC, FoxNews, CNN, The Weather Channel, Comedy, etc...

I considered getting Sirius, but XM had Art Bell and George Noory. Now I can drive down the road wearing my tin foil hat!

News Flash! (5, Funny)

BadMrMojo (767184) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261508)

John Smith of Nowhere, PA is reportedly not planning an online music store. We have yet to receive official confirmation that Mr. Smith, a 72 year-old retired janitor at Nowhere Middle School who is a local hero after bowling a 300 game back in '86, is indeed without plans for opening an online music store at any point within the next 6-12 months. Neighbor and long time friend Bob Jones was quoted as saying, "Nope. Y'uns gotta believe it... he ain't never thought of it a'once."

We'll have more on this breaking story as it develops.

Do they have a clue? (2, Interesting)

mfrnka (530296) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261515)

Now this after killing XM on the PC? I'm beginning to think XM seriously doesn't "get it". While I enjoy Rhapsody where I can stream what I want, when I want, there are tons of free internet radio stations I can already available. If they keep up these tactics, I'll soon be cancelling my two XM subscriptions.

Its called shoutcast (3, Informative)

tenchi90 (668754) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261526)

The winamp plugin shoutcast is an onlien radio service that has 1,000 channels + ITS FREE!

Apple wins again (-1, Offtopic)

cubicledrone (681598) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261527)

Everyone wants to be as cool as Apple. Linux and WIndows both want to be OS X. Sony wants an iPod. HP BOUGHT the iPod. Gateway wants a G5. Dell wants a Powerbook. CompUSA wants to be the Apple Store. Everybody wants iTunes.

The amount of new and innovative that has been manufactured by Apple recently is absolutely staggering.

What's really interesting (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10261599)

...is that in the final stages of applefanboyism, the sufferer believes Apple invented pretty much anything...computers, music, the internet, and most cried themselves to sleep when they found out that Steve Jobs was dying of cancer.

Re:Apple wins again (0, Offtopic)

Frogbert (589961) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261696)

For gods sake Apples Ipod was not inovative, it was marketed sure but Creative had solid state mp3 players long before apple did. I absolutly fail to see where Windows wants to be OSX and as far as I'm concerned linux only wants to be OSX when someone applys a theme for it.

Apple markets way more then they innovate. They know their Apple fanboys will pay hand over fist for their newest smooth peice of plastic regardless of the fact it is slower and does less then hundreds of alternitives out there.

And don't harp on to me about reliablity and manufacturing quality. My AMD Processor has yet to let me down, nor has my Asus Motherboard or my Sony DVD Writer. Also my 5 button Microsoft mouse is just aces.

Re:Apple wins again (1)

presearch (214913) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261787)

Wow, you have a Windows PC!!?? That sounds really cool!
Thanks for sharing! Where can we get one? Got a link?

Is it compatible with mozilla? (4, Interesting)

Armethius (718200) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261532)

The key question for me is whether it is compatible with non-IE browsers. I would love to sign up for Rhapsody, but they are IE only.

err, that's expensive compared to other services (1)

hattig (47930) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261547)

e.g., live365 radio is advert free if you pay for it, and the rates are cheap.

I suppose it is similar to everything in life. Pay a lot, get the most commercialised service because you know about it because it is advertised, but it raises the cost of the service.

Security (1)

hey (83763) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261548)

I wonder how they'll do security.
ie keep no-paying users off the service.

Re:Security (1)

GoRK (10018) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261608)

Uh? Maybe the same way every other website on Earth implements security on subscription services -- via a login, password, and careful scrutiny to make sure they are not being shared.

Or did I just respond to the lamest troll post in the world?

will they have more than 20 chars? (0)

yagu (721525) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261549)

When I got XM radio (I've since canceled) I was disappointed when the artist/album/song titles were truncated. Figured I was up against a crummy piece of hardware but found out when I called XM it was XM's limitation.... WTF?!? Billions of bits of music streaming into my exercise room, and I can't get the few lousy extra bits to distinguish if the song I'm hearing is Crosby Stills Nash, or Crosby Still Nash Young?!?

Check out their features for on-line music. If they'll truncate the satellite feed, what other shortcuts will they take for the on-line?

Just an anecdotal sharing of my experience.

Fugitaboutit! (4, Informative)

MonkeyGone2Heaven (720397) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261570)


I'm paying $3.95/mo. for a VIP membership at Live365.com [live365.com] . Sure, I paid for 12 months in advance to get that rate, but you still only pay $5.95/mo. on a month to month basis. No adds, no pop-ups, good audio quality (for streaming audio), and with 10K+ streams available, no boredom. It's one of the few things keeping me sane during the workday.

When will the first Time Trax for this be out? (4, Interesting)

dgrgich (179442) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261659)

I'll bet the RIAA will be looking at this extra-crispy close . . . after that whole XMPCR deal turned into an MP3 factory program.

How about on-line streams over XM (1)

HitchHik (103069) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261745)

Now if XM would offer the ability to configure personalized online streams to be broadcast over XM - that would be cool. So that I could listen to my favorite online radio stations in my car.

Can't comment on Sirius, but... (2, Insightful)

diamondsw (685967) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261757)

I actually think this might work. I've always been skeptical of business models based on people paying for a music subscription rather than downloads. People like the idea that years down the line it's still theirs, and is always theirs.

This gets around it by having a receptive audience already in place - XM subscribers who effectively pay for commercial-free music streaming already. This just adds it to their computer as well as their car, etc.

Nice move.

This geek needs it not! (1)

iamatlas (597477) | more than 9 years ago | (#10261795)

XM is great for the morning and evening commute- I can hardly believe I made due with the swill on the normal radio for so long. However, having a computer w/ internet connection at my disposal means my entertainment choices are much more open. Port this to my PPC cell and I'll bite. In the meantime, if I want XM at home I'll buy the home adapter for ~$50 and pay no extra monthly fee.

Did I Miss Something Here? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10261810)

Why pay for music when it is free?
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