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PS2 Final Fantasy 7 Spinoff

CmdrTaco posted more than 9 years ago | from the games-people-play dept.

Role Playing (Games) 266

Bagels writes "Square Enix is finally answering the prayers of thousands of FF7 fans with a side-story PS2 game called "Dirge of Cereberus: Final Fantasy VII." Not much is known yet - the game focuses on the character Vincent, it's set one year after the upcoming movie, Advent Children, and it's early in development as of now - but this is sure to be a hot topic amongst fans and critics of the series alike."

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You said it, story submitter (-1, Troll)

null etc. (524767) | more than 9 years ago | (#10266347)

It is sure to be a hot topic! Thanks for the commentary.

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Sequeling a Sequel? (-1, Flamebait)

Tetsugaku-San (717792) | more than 9 years ago | (#10266349)

What's this going to be FF7b/FFM2+1Yr ? !TOO MANY SEQUELS!

First (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10266352)

First Fantasy post!

A true sequel...? (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10266359)

Okay, we have a buggy cell phone game with shoddy scrolling, a CG movie, and now Vincent May Cry... when are we gonna get a TRUE sequel to FF7?

On a second thought, after playing FFX2, maybe it would be best NOT to have a sequel...

Should be good... (1, Interesting)

justkarl (775856) | more than 9 years ago | (#10266360)

I used to hate final fantasy. But FFX changed my mind about final fantasy...as long as it follows suit in gameplay and style, I'm in.

Re:Should be good... (3, Interesting)

The Desert Palooka (311888) | more than 9 years ago | (#10266533)

I had the opposite reaction to X. I've been playing the FF series since the first one (with my favorite being VI) and I actually stopped liking FF when it came out... I couldn't stand the game.

So from the opposite side of the spectrum, if it follows the format of X, I'm out.

*shrug*

If it's more like IX, or VI, or perhaps even VII or VIII, count me in, I'll even consider buying a PS2.

Re:Should be good... (1)

Llama_STi (745859) | more than 9 years ago | (#10267436)

The best in the series by far is FFV. To the true fan of the series it outranks them all. FFIV is a close second with a better story but less involved as it has no "job" system. Never forget FF1, tho ;D

Re:Should be good... (3, Interesting)

Techguy666 (759128) | more than 9 years ago | (#10266636)

Final Fantasy X is actually in my PS2 right now. I like the story but the game play is a little annoying.

When I first started playing, I was ticked-off that there were so many cut-scenes breaking the pace of my game play. I'm 3/4 through FFX now and I find myself getting ticked-off that the game play is interrupting my animated movie...

I would have liked FFX's gameplay more tied-in with the story such as NeverWinter Nights or Splinter Cell, to cut down on the extreme use of cut-scenes - or less emphasis on the constant need to power-up so we could spend more time exploring, like Myst or Syberia, and enjoying the pretty scenery and cool music.

What's going on with Square? (4, Interesting)

kmak (692406) | more than 9 years ago | (#10266361)

First FFX-2, now this.. are they running of ideas? Or are they just more adversive to taking risks?

Re:What's going on with Square? (2, Funny)

transient (232842) | more than 9 years ago | (#10266627)

are they running [out] of ideas?

FFX-2 was chock full of new ideas! The trouble is that they all sucked.

big company = big bills (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10266667)

Not much logic to it.

Re:What's going on with Square? (1)

DLWormwood (154934) | more than 9 years ago | (#10266693)

First FFX-2, now this.. are they running of ideas? Or are they just more adversive to taking risks?

I personally think it's a bit of corporate schizophrenia after the failure of Square Pictures and the merger with Enix. XI was released as a MMORPG, so that introduces a natural "gap" in the game style of the series. (XII is rumored to combine elements of Vagrant Story with FF Tatics, further divorcing the series from its heritage.)

I think Square might be doing the revisits with VII and X to provide both a venue to continue with classic turn-based RPGS, as well as using pre-built scenarios to experiement with unusual game designs. Parasite Eve, The Bouncer, Vagrant Story... they were all experiments that had limited market success. Future experiements will likely hitchup to the FF star to keep Squinix solvent. (This is a little similar to what Blizzard was trying to do with Starcraft: Ghost, IMHO.)

SquareEnix, the Radical Company? (2, Interesting)

MMaestro (585010) | more than 9 years ago | (#10266872)

In the case of at least FFXI, the idea to make the game a MMORPG was decided before Squaresoft merged with Enix.

As for the experimenting with new designs, Square/Enix doesn't really have a record of 'experimenting' and more like 'maverick designer ideas'. Parasite Eve was some-what turn-based but the whole guns, move while fighting, 1 character, sorta thing was totally different from the FF games. Same with Vagrant Story. Targeting different parts of the body? Weapons/Armor that change weaknesses/strengths to certain enemies? No more level system? Thats a pretty radical jump from the FF standard 'you attack, I attack' system.

Not that Enix is innocent either. Their Dragon Quest/Warrior series is still using the old menu system founded with DQ/DW game.

Re:What's going on with Square? (2, Funny)

DrEldarion (114072) | more than 9 years ago | (#10266799)

I call this "the Enix influence".

Re:What's going on with Square? (4, Insightful)

gamgee5273 (410326) | more than 9 years ago | (#10266845)

No, I don't think that's it. I think FFX-2 was put out there to help calm the folks who didn't want to wait till FFXII but really didn't want to play FFXI Online. I really enjoyed the battle system in FFX-2, but was disappointed that so many of the backgrounds were recycled.

As for the sequels to VII: People have wanted one for a while. Then, added to that, was the response to the appearance of Cloud and Aeris in Kingdom Hearts. At that point, I think SE realized that they had to explore FFVII a bit more or risk alienating a ton of fans.

As for risk-taking: FFXI was a huge risk that has really paid off for them (the European service was just rolled out) and FFXII is supposedly going to feature quite a few changes that will continue to evolve the series.

I think SE are doing what any self-respecting company should do: find the popular product, continue to give the fans what they want, and continue evolving the product. If, at any point, SE releases an FF that just royally sucks (and I'm not talking mediocre, like some think of FFVIII and FFIX as being) then I'll be worried that they aren't pushing the envelope any longer...

If it's going to have the girls from the FF series (1, Funny)

Trigun (685027) | more than 9 years ago | (#10266364)

it will obviously be a game I cannot play wearing pants.

From the Square Enix home page.... (-1, Offtopic)

tcopeland (32225) | more than 9 years ago | (#10266366)

...HTML in one of the frames:
var db = 'Apache::DBI::db=HASH(0x855aaf8)';
if(!db)top.par ent.document.location.href='/sei/index.htm';
Persistent database connections [cpan.org] , nice.

Vincent was a cool character (3, Funny)

CrazyJim1 (809850) | more than 9 years ago | (#10266367)

My ex-girlfriend wanted me to start dressing like a vampire after that, which I declined :P

Proof of why God isn't proven [geocities.com]

Re:Vincent was a cool character (1)

Lesrahpem (687242) | more than 9 years ago | (#10267030)

You don't know how right you are. I think he was the best character from the whole game. I don't mean best as in to have in your party, I mean it as in he was just really cool. It always made me mad that they never explained much about his story. Maybe the movie will shed some light.

I never fully understood whether he was supposed to be a demon or a vampire. I was pretty sure he was a vampire exept for the transformation he did into a thing looking very much like a demon. I guess in Japanese mythology vampires are a kind of demon though.

Are they conceding FF8-11 as failures? (1)

samberdoo (812366) | more than 9 years ago | (#10266381)

They seem to be commercially. Bring back the fun. Chocobos rule!

Finally!!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10266392)

Finally!!!! They knew they wanted to to this, and we've been waiting for it for so long. The question is if they can deliver without having Hironobu Sakaguchi on board.

final fantasy ports (4, Interesting)

Speare (84249) | more than 9 years ago | (#10266406)

My last two gaming system purchases were driven by "whatever platform the next Final Fantasy" would be delivered. And the game platform companies know this, which is why they hotly compete for Square's business.

I wish more of the older FFs were ported to newer platforms. (Heck, a generic SNES-on-PS2 emulator would be very cool.) I've never played FF7 but hear a lot about it. This could open a lot of past-their-prime games to a wider audience, much like the Atari classics movement.

Re:final fantasy ports (2, Informative)

Brandon One (760352) | more than 9 years ago | (#10266439)

They did port it to the PlayStation along with Chrono Cross on Final Fantasy Chronicles.

Re:final fantasy ports (4, Informative)

Neon Spiral Injector (21234) | more than 9 years ago | (#10266557)

Exactly, every FF except the Japanese III is playable on the PS2. Most are PSone discs, but run fine. They are still being pressed today, so you shouldn't have much trouble finding them (online, most store don't get new PSone discs in anymore). Part I and II are actually the Wonder Swan Color remakes, which means the dialog is a better translation, the graphics are improved, and the music is quite a bit more resolute.

Re:final fantasy ports (4, Informative)

the unbeliever (201915) | more than 9 years ago | (#10266500)

erm.

most of them *have been*

Final Fantasy Origins = FF1 on the PSX
Final Fantasy Chronicles (FF4 (2 in the US) and Chrono Trigger)
Final Fantasy Anthology (FF5 and FF6 (3 in the US)

I own all three, gladly.

Re:final fantasy ports (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 9 years ago | (#10266561)

Minor nit: Origins is 1 and 2. I just picked it up used from gamestop, which was lucky because typically an employee will end up buying that one before it ever even hits the floor.

Re:final fantasy ports (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10266881)

What for? I easily payed for them years ago when they were released, so I just play the ROMs on my PC (legally I might add). If anyone wants to see the originals, they are more than welcome to see I own them.

I might add that emus can enhance the expierence adding extra features never seen on the any consoles. Add that and save-state hacking for the occasion fun, and its far better than any console can offer.

Re:final fantasy ports (1)

neafevoc (93684) | more than 9 years ago | (#10267050)

I own the Anthology. My only gripe about it are the loading times. :(

Re:final fantasy ports (1)

lightspawn (155347) | more than 9 years ago | (#10267072)

Final Fantasy Origins = FF1 on the PSX
Final Fantasy Chronicles (FF4 (2 in the US) and Chrono Trigger)
Final Fantasy Anthology (FF5 and FF6 (3 in the US)

I own all three, gladly.


Are you really fine with the loading times on the PSX? Do you remember what they were like on real carts?

Granted, the worst offender is the non-FF title (Chrono Trigger), and the loading times may be shorter on the PS2 (does anybody know?)

Re:final fantasy ports (1)

lavar78 (573962) | more than 9 years ago | (#10267149)

Tell me about it! The loading times are painful if you're used to the original games. I'd still recommend playing FF4, Chrono Trigger, and especially FF6 though -- they're all great games.

Re:final fantasy ports (1)

PhoenixFlare (319467) | more than 9 years ago | (#10267311)

Granted, the worst offender is the non-FF title (Chrono Trigger), and the loading times may be shorter on the PS2 (does anybody know?)

It's still not quite as snappy as the SNES version, but the fast loading does help a bit. I'd already played through completely and gotten all the endings and extras by the time I bought a PS2, though, so I haven't tested it much.

FF4, on the other hand, has no loading speed problems whatsoever, even on a PS1. The music and sound effects are a bit off from the original, but on the whole it's not too bad.

Re:final fantasy ports (1)

DigiDarkCloud (262410) | more than 9 years ago | (#10267332)

Granted, the worst offender is the non-FF title (Chrono Trigger), and the loading times may be shorter on the PS2 (does anybody know?)

I have all three collections as well, though I've only been playing FF1, FF2 and CT so far. In FF1 and 2 the load times aren't noticeable to me, but CT's is enough that it's annoying.

I'm playing them on my PS2, if it matters. It probably already has faster seek/load times than a true PlayStation, and it has an option in the PS emulator to further boost the load time, but I haven't noticed that option to have any effect.

Re:final fantasy ports (1)

Bull999999 (652264) | more than 9 years ago | (#10266655)

You should be able to pick up FF7 for about $20 at the local stores. Personally, I thought that FF7 had the best story line of all FF series with FF X being the second.

YES BUT (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10266407)

is this one really the FINAL one?

The 'Final' in 'Final Fantasy" (4, Informative)

maiku (167604) | more than 9 years ago | (#10266905)

I always wondered about the 'Final' thing. Thanks Wikipedia! [wikipedia.org]

"The series' name comes from Square's brush with bankruptcy, and is an excellent example of gallows humor. Head designer Hironobu Sakaguchi decided to make the company's last project a fantasy role-playing game, as the name of Final Fantasy implies. The game's success brought the company to profitability, and the Final Fantasy video game franchise was born."

Times Have Changed (5, Interesting)

Kobold Curry Chef (692137) | more than 9 years ago | (#10266408)

Since the original FF designer (I believe his last name is Sakaguchi) left Square a couple years ago, things have definitely changed in the FF world. Now we're getting sequels (FF-X, this new one), MMORPG versions, cell phone games...all things that never happened with the original designer running things. Was he holding back the franchise, or was he being smart by not letting things go hog wild?

Re:Times Have Changed (1)

StevenHenderson (806391) | more than 9 years ago | (#10266433)

Yes. I feel that untimately all of these releases will dilute the FF name (if they havent already), and will in essence, further serve to cheapen the franchise. How long until we have FF 2k5, then 2k6 and so on like sports games? (much like the way UT has gone)

Re:Times Have Changed (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10266638)

Sakaguchi (The "Guch" as I like to refer to him) has started another game company called Mistwalker and has announced 3 games. I'm not sure of the names/genre of the games, just that they were announced.

Re:Times Have Changed (2, Insightful)

Maul (83993) | more than 9 years ago | (#10266710)

He was smart by not letting things go hog wild.

Re:Times Have Changed (1)

DroopyStonx (683090) | more than 9 years ago | (#10266992)

I thought he was back for FF12?

I know FF8 and FFX were botched by whoever they had design it (which explains why the games weren't "Final Fantasy" type games), but the last I read, the original designer was back.

There's more medieval/tech in FF12, just like 4, 6, 7, and 9!

Release date (4, Interesting)

StevenHenderson (806391) | more than 9 years ago | (#10266409)

From TFA:

While Dirge of Cerberus: Final Fantasy VII is slated for release on the PlayStation 2 in 2005, Square Enix lists the game's genre as "undetermined," which suggests that the game is still in the early stages of development.

If it is early in development, NO WAY it will see a release in 2005. FFXII is has been delayed until 2005 in Japan and even later here, so I doubt they will overlap the releases, and I have a tough time believing they will have the resources to devote to the game to get it out by then. They royally screwed up the sequel to FFX, so let's hope they get this one right...

Hrm interesting (5, Interesting)

qazew82 (591602) | more than 9 years ago | (#10266418)

I'm not complaining about another FF game, but I'm starting to wonder something -- tell me what you think.

They talked about Advent Children coming out as a movie instead of a game, but now they have a game starting development. You think they decided to start the game development up because of the positive response from Advent Children? Or do you think that they are really just being that cool and pleasing us.

eor

Re:Hrm interesting (1)

System.out.println() (755533) | more than 9 years ago | (#10266671)

I suspect they realized that a FF storyline cannot be effectively told in a two-hour timeframe, and decided to make Advent Children a lead-in to the PS2 game.

Re:Hrm interesting (1)

Kogase (811902) | more than 9 years ago | (#10266673)

Pleasing consumers = more money for them. So yes to the latter. On a side note, Final Fantasy VII was the reason I play games.

Re:Hrm interesting (2, Insightful)

scotta451 (802667) | more than 9 years ago | (#10266680)

It would seem that Square is very savvy to cater to its fans, and when potential buyers go nuts over one of their properties, they produce the goods. FFX sold like crazy, so they produced a sequel, and guess what - it sold like crazy too. Why wouldn't the same be true for FFVII, which seems to have been better appreciated.

As for which is the driver - they get positive response to the film, so they queue up another game for development, or whether they planned it that way all along? Doesn't matter much to me. I would buy the movie with or without the game and vice versa, and that's the behaviour Square has cultivated from anyone who plays and enjoys their crack... I mean games.

so what your saying is... (1)

AssProphet (757870) | more than 9 years ago | (#10266423)

square is actually working on two movies right now...

Dirge of Cereberus? (2, Funny)

Dante Shamest (813622) | more than 9 years ago | (#10266437)

FF7 crossover with Hercules? Oh sorry, they already did that in Kingdom Hearts. =P

This is good news (3, Interesting)

Tom Courtenay (638139) | more than 9 years ago | (#10266458)

I'm glad Square is finally listening to its fans! Last year they gave us an innovative sequel to one of the series best games (in X-2), and they're giving us more story for VII in the Advent Children project. Kudos!
I'm sure that most of use would prefer an RPG follow-up to it, but at least they're learning to capitalize on established characters (not just franchises). A game based around this very unique character could work out well. Sort of an updated Altered Beast type of thing? (for those that don't know, Vincent was a character who had the ability to change into various monsters during a battle). Of course, it could suck....kind of like Altered Beast :)

Squeenix games get a lot of flack from people, but it's mostly due to the raging fanboys that the games attract. If you can get past the fact that you're feeding the Squeenix monster, you'll often find a rewarding experience that can entertain those beyond the 14 year olds.

Hey now! (1)

Mongoose Disciple (722373) | more than 9 years ago | (#10266664)

No bad talk about Altered Beast! That's a classic there you're stompin' on, buddy!

Granted, we demand a lot more from our games these days, and I'm glad we do. Still! Classic!

Wise fwom your gwave!

Re:This is good news (1)

ricotest (807136) | more than 9 years ago | (#10267097)

I might be mistaken but wasn't Vincent an entirely optional character in FF7? Meaning you could play through the entire game without having him in your party? Might be confusing for players returning for the sequel.

Re:This is good news (1)

Masami Eiri (617825) | more than 9 years ago | (#10267257)

And very easy to miss. IIRC, he was in a coffin in a room that was locked when you first see it, and you had to return at a later time.
At least with Yuffie you had a good chance of finding her if you just ran around levelling in forests for a while...

But... (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10266477)

...will Aeris be alive?

Re:But... (1)

JonBob (556956) | more than 9 years ago | (#10267328)

Well, she is in Kingdom Hearts, so why not?

Let the Beating Begin! (2, Funny)

kenp2002 (545495) | more than 9 years ago | (#10266479)

Hail! The merger is now complete my masters and Square Intellectual Property is Now Ours!
LET THE BEATING OF THE DEAD HORSE BEGIN!!!

Playability (real word?) and Stroy line (1)

funkdid (780888) | more than 9 years ago | (#10266481)

Playability (real word?) and Stroy line are what made FF7 absolutley ROCK. Well, charcter development was up there as well. Plus the way materia worked and your weapons. OK the game ROCKED overall. I hated RPGs and had no intention of picking up a PS until I saw that game. I was instantly converted.

I just hope this isn't like when a has-been rock star starts remaking classic songs that they have no business singing. I feel that if you are going to remake a song it should be better then the original (yes almost impossible to do, so don't try unless you can pull it off). The SAME rule should apply here. I hope square doesn't tarnish the name of what I consider to be the greatest RPG of all time.

Re:Playability (real word?) and Stroy line (1)

Trigun (685027) | more than 9 years ago | (#10266618)

The main problem that I have with the FF series is the fact that there isn't enough character development. I don't want wild tangents on the origins of the characters. I don't want characters to dissappear halfway through the quest, only to be replaced by a crappier one, having to spend forever levelling up that one. I try to keep my characters levels somewhat even. I do not want to have a level three white witch cast upon my party of level 20 fighters. If I wanted a white witch in the party, I'd start the game with a white witch. If not, I'll just buy a shitload of potions. The original FF had it right. I could play that game with whatever characters I wanted. Sure the scope was limited then, but broaden the scope, don't change the rules!

Re:Playability (real word?) and Stroy line (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10266817)

Please, take a basic English comp. class. God damnit, I want my 30 seconds back.

Isn't it Ironic (Don'tcha think) (1, Funny)

grunt107 (739510) | more than 9 years ago | (#10266487)

That there never is a "Final" Fantasy?

Good games, though.

Re:Isn't it Ironic (Don'tcha think) (3, Informative)

benzapp (464105) | more than 9 years ago | (#10266527)

I am fairly certain the name of the series was chosen when the original developer, Square, was on the verge of bankrupcy. They named the original Final Fantasy such because they thought it would be their final game. It ended up being far more popular than they thought it would be, and the company was saved.

I haven't really played a final fantasy game since FFIII on my SNES like 10 years ago. That said, maybe someone out there knows the story better than I do.

Re:Isn't it Ironic (Don'tcha think) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10266657)

Nope, you got it.

Re:Isn't it Ironic (Don'tcha think) (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10266609)

The series' name comes from Square's brush with bankruptcy, and is an excellent example of gallows humor. Head designer Hironobu Sakaguchi decided to make the company's last project a fantasy role-playing game, as the name of Final Fantasy implies. The game's success brought the company to profitability, and the Final Fantasy video game franchise was born. Since then the Final Fantasy franchise has been considered Square Enix's most important asset. Figuratively, the name of Final Fantasy can also refer to any successful last chance to escape bankruptcy or any successful last chance to escape death or halt personal loss, based on this business situation.

Final Fantasy [wikipedia.org]

Re:Isn't it Ironic (Don'tcha think) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10266687)

Some good, brief, info on Square Enix's history (and list of games). http://www.fact-index.com/s/sq/squaresoft.html [fact-index.com]

Re:Isn't it Ironic (Don'tcha think) (1)

booc0mtaco (797663) | more than 9 years ago | (#10266925)

Well,

The first Final Fantasy game was the company's last-ditch effort into making games, back in the early years. Thus, it WAS their final fantasy, or last hope, if you will.

The fact that it has been followed up indefinitely is just a consequence of its initial success. Guaranteed, the name's irony won't continue forever, but at least we're enjoying the fruits of their labor for now.

Re:Isn't it Ironic (Don'tcha think) (1)

kenp2002 (545495) | more than 9 years ago | (#10267119)

I thought the Japan name was Romancing Saga? Or am I consufing that with a different Square game?

Re:Isn't it Ironic (Don'tcha think) (1)

PhoenixFlare (319467) | more than 9 years ago | (#10267366)

You're thinking of a different game, yes. I believe it's part of the same series/in the same vein as the SaGa Frontier games.

Isn't it Stupid (Don'tcha think) (0, Flamebait)

Daetrin (576516) | more than 9 years ago | (#10267446)

That ever time there's a story about the Final Fantasy series some idiot needs to make this lame ass joke again?

It was maybe funny once. Most of us are probably around several dozen now if not more.

OH MY GOD!!! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10266489)

I COULDN'T CARE LESS!

Wake me when the sequel to Eternal Arcadia is released.

goddamnit (2, Insightful)

DeusExMalex (776652) | more than 9 years ago | (#10266544)

since when are there actual sequels to the final fantasy games? call me a purist but it feels like a bastardization of my favorite stories when there's a continuation made after the story has ended. it's as if there was a braveheart 2 being made.

Re:goddamnit (1)

Neon Spiral Injector (21234) | more than 9 years ago | (#10266620)

The biggest constant in the FF series is change. Every game being in a new world with new characters. But then that became what everyone expected. So obviously to keep everyone on their toes, they must do the unexpected, and start making sequals.

Re:goddamnit (1)

leperkuhn (634833) | more than 9 years ago | (#10266879)

heh, braveheart 2 would center around mel gibson's disembodied head going into insanity and fighting for the english.

Re:goddamnit (1)

eboot (697478) | more than 9 years ago | (#10266908)

Actually a Braveheart 2 wouldn't be a bad idea, I mean literally picking up the story where the film left off (in case you didn't know the film actually has an element of history in it) After William Wallace died Robert the Bruce fought against the English, lost, hid in a cave and watched a spider building his web, inspiring him to take up arms again. Good Story.

Disappointment (1)

dark_requiem (806308) | more than 9 years ago | (#10266591)

I hope very much that this isn't another crappy spinoff game like FFX-2. Worst RPG ever. FFVII is my personal favorite, trumping even FFVI. I got my hopes up when they originally did a press release stating that they would redo FFVII for the PS2 with updated graphics and new CG scenes, and then they quashed that in favor of the movie. Hopefully this title lives up to its predecessor, but I really don't think Vincent was the pivotol character I would have chosen for a spinoff. He was a good character, don't get me wrong, but they had better options to chose from...

Give me 3/6! (1)

Coffee Warlord (266564) | more than 9 years ago | (#10266651)


Tell you what, I'd buy a PS2 just for the game if they came out with a redesigned/expanded version of Final Fantasy 3/6. 2/4 wouldn't suck either. Both of them with full cinematics and real sound would just rock.

But 7? Why on earth choose 7?

Re:Give me 3/6! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10266789)

Real sound? Are you kidding me? FF3 has arguably the most beautiful music of any SNES game.It even beast out a lot of PS2 music.

Re:Give me 3/6! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10266813)

Because it's their most popular game ever. Pretty good reason, I think. =P

Re:Give me 3/6! (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10267069)

I probably should give up lurking and actually create an account here, but I figured I'd take a stab as AC. I have to agree that FF7 isn't the best of the series, but it's pretty close. FF6 is probably one of the better final fantasies for the simple fact that it actually chose to destroy the world halfway through the game instead of trying to avert the destruction and succeeding ultimately like in any of the other games, 7 included. It also dealt with some stuff you haven't seen since such as Celes' attempted suicide, Terra dealing with teen pregancy and becoming a surrogate mother, and the bad guy's destroying the world without much of a reason--he's just crazy. This is just some of what the game has to offer with just a little bit of hope that life does go on despite adversity. I liked FF7 too, and I think its battle system was better, but despite the weak translation we got, I think the premise of FF6 was bolder in comparison.

Re:Give me 3/6! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10267226)

Yeah FF3 was THE BEST Final Fantasy yet (I have to admit I never played 10 or 11). Each characters theme music rocked. There were tons of characters and Kefka rocked. FF7 was pretty good once you got past the shitty polygon graphics. FF8 was lame. FF9 was Boring. I would also love to see SNES Chrono Trigger ported to 3d. Wow Im so excited, cant wait to get home and fire up the old SNES emulator and play some classics.

Please don't make a sequel (1)

Rik Sweeney (471717) | more than 9 years ago | (#10266658)

The problem with making a sequel is that if it's bad you'll never hear the end of it. FF7 should just be left as a single game for its own good I'm sorry to say.

The other problem I have is a lot of people have apparently played FF7, but of those, how many have actually finished it?

Re:Please don't make a sequel (1)

goldspider (445116) | more than 9 years ago | (#10266735)

As someone who indeed finished FF7, I'll vouch for it as a game with one of the most compelling storylines ever, not to mention the great open-ended conclusion.

It's a shame that so much emphasis is being put on having the most cutting-edge graphics and features, apparently at the expense of developing a good story.

Scaned Pictures (2, Informative)

darkstar949 (697933) | more than 9 years ago | (#10266731)

If you want to actually see the game AdventChildren.net [adventchildren.net] has a scan of the Shounen Jump article about the game. You can see the scan (direct link) here [adventchildren.net]

Re:Scaned Pictures (1)

StevenHenderson (806391) | more than 9 years ago | (#10266880)

I wonder if maybe the lumped ad means a demo will be released with the DVD...

Maybe it's just me ... (2, Insightful)

evslin (612024) | more than 9 years ago | (#10266803)

... but I didn't think Vincent was all that compelling of a character in the first place.

Re:Maybe it's just me ... (1)

Zoshnell (573838) | more than 9 years ago | (#10266902)

I personally didn't remember a damn thing about his backstory. Failure si me I suppose.

Definately the best one. (2, Insightful)

Sirwar (659041) | more than 9 years ago | (#10266804)

The thing about FF games, is that everyone remembers their first as the best. Proof enough is that I've met people who played FF8 first, and they think its the best one...when I think only X-2 could surpass it in lameness. Is FF7 really the best? Who knows. Maybe I'm biased, but best magic system, and best minigames, bar none.

Re:Definately the best one. (2, Interesting)

CashCarSTAR (548853) | more than 9 years ago | (#10267109)

Not me.

I've played them all since #1. I can honestly say that my favorite is X by far. Best fighting engine+somewhat fun level up system+great story.

Speaking of Games ... (0, Offtopic)

Aggrazel (13616) | more than 9 years ago | (#10266826)

Off topic I know ... ... but when the heck are they going to replace Simonniker? Its been like 3 weeks now.

Question (1)

StevenHenderson (806391) | more than 9 years ago | (#10266841)



So, the fact that they are going to be focusing on Vincent in the game...does anyone think that maybe this means Cloud dies in the movie???

Re:Question (2, Informative)

greymond (539980) | more than 9 years ago | (#10267405)

I doubt that. Lets look at Vincents character - he was a Turk who loved a chick (lucrent - something like that) who loved an evil scientist (Hojo) who eventually experimented with their child (Sepheroth - probably spelled wrong). Vincent then confronting Hojo gets his arm shot off and replaced with a mechanical claw while being experimented on by Hojo and locked in a basement for 30 years.

His character joins you looking for revenge mostly. So it seems that when the initial fighting and saving the world part is all said and done that he would have some issues of his own that he needs to deal with.

Damn I need to take a shower and wash off this nerd smell now.

great! (0)

wowzerwowzer (814018) | more than 9 years ago | (#10266930)

oh my gosh my prayers answered!!, FF7 was the RPG that got me hooked into the genre so i'm really thrilled about this, i hope it has familiar names in the world map, choosing vincent as a main character tho.. I dunno.
anyway there are so many fans that are happy by this news now, well done square!.

Finally... (1)

DroopyStonx (683090) | more than 9 years ago | (#10266953)

It was utterly disappointing when I heard that they were making sequel to X-2. At first I thought it was a joke.. I kept asking, "Why a sequel to THAT game?! They must be kidding," but... yeah, it was true.

All that time and money that could've been spent on a direct sequel to a better (and more popular) game like FF4 or FF7.

I'm willing to forget all about FFX-2 if they make this sequel to 7 (and make it good! [Please no pop-star crap])

Cerebus lives! (1)

BlueThunderArmy (751258) | more than 9 years ago | (#10266964)

Crud, I was hoping this was Dirge of Cerebus, featuring Dave Sim's cranky aardvark fighting Sephiroth and Shin-ra.

that is one of the main reasons i bought ps2 (1)

beefcake101 (813555) | more than 9 years ago | (#10267001)

i bought the ps2 because of the game devil may cry then i seen ffx which is one of the greatest games i have played. I thought there was another ff movie coming out? does anyone know?

PSP or PS2? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10267051)

Judging from the righthand sidebar on the gamespot site, this game is going to be for the PSP and not the PS2.

Re:PSP or PS2? (1)

silentbobdp (157345) | more than 9 years ago | (#10267236)

No, that's referring to the Advent Children movie, which is coming out on both DVD and PSP's UMD format. Since (obviously) Gamespot doesn't have a category for DVDs, they list it as a PSP title.

The intro of the new game... (2, Funny)

WWWWolf (2428) | more than 9 years ago | (#10267068)

(Note: somewhat obscure joke, based on the sequel to the seventh part of one popular western CRPG series...)

Scene: North Corel, eighteen months after the end of FF7...

Barrett: "Yo, homes."

Cloud: "So there are some news about these Cerberus things?"

Tifa: "All I found among Sephiroth's belongings was a map showing the way to a place called the Isle of Cerberus, and this letter."

Barrett: "Okay. Slap it down there!"

As Tifa opens the letter, it magically animates, casting a gigantic holographic projection of Jenova in air...

Barrett: "Jump back!"

Jenova projection: "Sephiroth! Know that my face is most goth-like! While it's unlikely that this ludicruous gang that you spoke of manages to ruin our plans, you must send a clone of you to the Isle of Cerberus, to learn the secret of Acne Medication! Soon I and my horde of puppets will destroy the planet!"

Cloud: "We must send Vincent to the Isle of Cerberus..."

Vincent: "Hm? Why me?"

The rest of the characters unceremoniously tie Vincent to the back of a gold chocobo, which panics and runs off across the ocean. Then, at one point, it disappears mysteriously with a "Zot!" effect.

Stop Knocking on Square (2, Interesting)

ChronoSphere (814014) | more than 9 years ago | (#10267075)

I think its a good thing that they are finally extending the story from one of their more popular games. The ending to FFVII was so ambiguous, that its practically crying for another story to tie up the loose ends. Now, if Square tried to make a sequel outta something like FFVIII, then I might disagree, but this is probably the best thing they could have done for the story of FFVII.

I'll play it if they bring back Aeris (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10267127)

I know she's really just sleeping peacefully.

Instead of calling it Dirge of Cereberus... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10267187)

They should have just called it: "Final Fantasy VII: The Search for More Money"
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