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FP! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10277405)

First Post!

Re:FP! (-1, Offtopic)

bigtangringo (800328) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277422)

Damn, OT already? :(

fp!!!!1111 (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10277406)

fprost!

First Post (0, Flamebait)

Blue Eagle 26 (683113) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277407)

That direction is straight down the krapper!

Let me be the first to say: (5, Funny)

Seoulstriker (748895) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277412)

1) Han shoots first.
2) Lucas destroyed my childhood.
3) Lucas eats babies.

Re:Let me be the first to say: (1)

CrackedButter (646746) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277438)

4) Which of us had the biggest rock!

Re:Let me be the first to say: (4, Funny)

Negatyfus (602326) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277442)

Leia: "Luke, I am your mother!"

Luke: "Nooooooo!"

Re:Let me be the first to say: (5, Funny)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277501)

R2D2: Beep boop wheeep zoop beeyoop! (translation: Be honest, what was I actually?)

C3PO: Oh, I'm afraid you were originaly designed as mobile trash compactor.

R2D2: Dweep! Dweep! Dweep! (translation: Noooooooo!)

Even worse: (5, Funny)

Megaweapon (25185) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277512)

Admiral Ackbar: "Luke, I am your mother!"

Luke: "AAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!"

Re:Even worse: (4, Funny)

Zorilla (791636) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277593)

Admiral Ackbar: "It's not really a trap!"

That one would be sure to piss off some fark.com photoshoppers.

Re:Even worse: (2, Funny)

MikeMacK (788889) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277603)

No, the best would have been:

Darth Vader: Luke, I am your mother!

Luke: Nooooooooo!

Re:Even worse: (5, Funny)

Gentoo Fan (643403) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277623)

Greedo: "Han, I am your mother!"

Han: *BANG*

Re:Let me be the first to say: (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10277447)

1) Who cares?
2) Get a life. Seriously.
3) Get over it already. Don't like it, don't watch it.

Re:Let me be the first to say: (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10277499)

This time, the Empire strikes first.

Re:Let me be the first to say: (1)

Cheile (724052) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277525)

I've often wondered why someone doesn't re-edit the dvd cut to include the origional scene and release it on some P2P network. Sure, yes there would be C&D letters and threats and all of that, but if the "success" that the RIAA/MPAA has had up to this point is any indication it probably would be hard to stop.

Re:Let me be the first to say: (5, Informative)

Bjimba (31636) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277621)

Well, even better, someone *has* converted the laserdisc versions of IV, V, and VII (pre-SD) into a DVD-R ready format, and they *are* being distributed over the usual underground channels.

You know where to go.

Re:Let me be the first to say: (1)

Zorilla (791636) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277641)

Well, until then, there's always the Laserdisc rip that's on Suprnova.org and probably elsewhere. I've heard the original 4:3 letterboxed version has pretty good quality. The one on SN seems to be the lower quality anamorphic one though.

in the butt (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10277417)

holy shit

GNAA Lives!!! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10277418)

GNAA Lives!!! First post from Hax0r by Chinese!!!!

Mirrors modern society? (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10277423)

Han shot first? Dictator of choice had WMDs?

Seems like his edits to the movies are an insightful yet unintentional comment on how people whitewash history in real life too.

After the empire was defeted (ep 6), the earlier histories get re-written.

Re:Mirrors modern society? (2, Insightful)

Monsieur Canard (766354) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277453)

No no.

It mirrors modern society in that if there's a way to milk a cash cow, someone will be standing there with a bucket.

direction he intends to take it... (2, Insightful)

selderrr (523988) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277429)

/me is shocked !

you mean that, no only this thing is going somewhere, it also has a direction ????

Stop the presses !

oh comeon please. Lucas a had one original idea a long time ago (in a galaxy far away probably) and milked it like no one has ever milked an idea before. I wishi everyone would just stop talking about him, then maybe he'd be forced to poop another idea instead of trampling in previous poop.

Quoth George: (5, Funny)

rde (17364) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277430)

"Star Wars" fans is they're very independent-thinking people. They all think outside the box

Yeah, and then they buy it five times over the next few years.

Re:Quoth George: (1)

nastro (32421) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277574)

Am I simply jaded when this sounds to me like stroking the fan base?

I mean, when I read it, I even heard the Billy Squire song in my head.

Of course, I'm insane, but never-the-less...

Anybody cares? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10277432)

Starwars... anybody really cares about these weak films?

Re:Anybody cares? (5, Funny)

deathcloset (626704) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277492)

"I care" - Luke

Re:Anybody cares? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10277508)

Nope. Don't care.

But I will say this before some other nerd decides to point it out: it has had an impact on my life, however small. Specifically, being robbed of several hours of my life by watching the first three shitty flicks in theatres several years ago.

The future... (-1, Flamebait)

grub (11606) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277434)


They also discuss the future of the franchise and the direction he intends to take it.

Lucas: I intend to rape the franchise for every nickel I can. I'll destroy as many childhood memories as needed to acomplish this. It doesn't matter if I have to rewrite it so the planet Dantoine shoots att he Death Star first.

Re:The future... (3, Funny)

DrXym (126579) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277513)

Lucas was concerned by the fan backlash over the constant re-releases, enough that he issued a press release.

It reads:

"Squeal piggy!"

Re:The future... (4, Funny)

BHearsum (325814) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277518)

I think you mean Alderaan.

Your geek license has been revoked.

Re:The future... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10277654)

ACK! /me cowers in shame.

The Missing Question (5, Funny)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277435)

As we all know, editors often strip out items they consider unimportant or trivial to make an artical fit, or as the saying goes, "All the news that fits, in print" Here are the missing bits:

AP: Will there be any other surprises for viewers in these episodes? Lucas: Well, I was quoted a while back as stating the whole Star Wars story is about Anakin Skywalker, his turn to the dark side and eventual rescue by his own son, but that was only half the whole truth, you see as I said a film is only half finished which ripped out of the filmmakers hands, this is really the story of Jar Jar Binks and he has been added into key rolls in all three episodes. I like the character and don't care what anyone else thinks.

the direction he intends to take it ... (3, Insightful)

Bai jie (653604) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277441)

He intends to take it to the bank, along with everything he does.

Special Editions vs. regular (5, Insightful)

wattersa (629338) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277443)

AP: Why not release both the originals and special editions on DVD?

Lucas: The special edition, that's the one I wanted out there. The other movie, it's on VHS, if anybody wants it. ... I'm not going to spend the, we're talking millions of dollars here, the money and the time to refurbish that, because to me, it doesn't really exist anymore. It's like this is the movie I wanted it to be, and I'm sorry you saw half a completed film and fell in love with it. But I want it to be the way I want it to be. I'm the one who has to take responsibility for it. I'm the one who has to have everybody throw rocks at me all the time, so at least if they're going to throw rocks at me, they're going to throw rocks at me for something I love rather than something I think is not very good, or at least something I think is not finished.


Lucas is going to have a lot of rocks thrown at him. As someone in an earlier post stated, Lucas is a control freak and doesn't seem to grasp that his vision today differs from his vision when he made the movies. :-/

Re:Special Editions vs. regular (4, Interesting)

RyuuzakiTetsuya (195424) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277488)

Big deal. It's out on VHS and laserdisc.

I really thought that those words were brave, it seemed like he didn't mind alienating the fanbase in favor of his own artistic vision.

Re:Special Editions vs. regular (1)

Jeff DeMaagd (2015) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277642)

Big deal. It's out on VHS and laserdisc.

VHS has too poor quality of a medium, in my opinion. Few people want to bother owning an LD player just to watch the version they grew up with, in moderately acceptable quality.

The SE changes might be justifiable because the technology wasn't available to do what Lucas wanted, but why change the movies again for DVD?

How many updates are these movies going to be subjected to? If the movies were non-fiction, then there'd be accusations of revisionism. In fiction, I guess it's OK to change the story, slap 90's and 00's CG into late 70's film footage even if it looks out of place.

I refuse to play this game, I'll stick to the pre-SE LDs.

Response (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10277497)

My response to Lucas is a quote from the Foreward of "Brave New World", by Aldous Huxley, in regard to "changing things" after the fact.
Chronic remorse, as all the moralists are agreed, is a most undesirable sentiment. If you have behaved badly, repent, make what amends you can and address yourself to the task of behaving better next time. On no account brood over your wrongdoing. Rolling in the muck is not the best way of getting clean.

Art also has its morality, and many of the rules of this morality are the same as, or at least analogous to, the rules of ordinary ethics. Remorse, for example, is as undesirable in relation to our bad art as it is in relation to our bad behavior. The badness should be hunted out, acknowledged and, if possible, avoided in the future. To pore over the literary shortcomings of twenty years ago, to attempt to patch a faulty work into the perfection it missed at its first execution, to spend one's middle age in trying to mend the artistic sins committed and bequeathed by that different person who was oneself in youth-all this is surely vain and futile. And that is why this new Brave New World is the same as the old one. Its defects as a work of art are considerable; but in order to correct them I should have to rewrite the book-and in the process of rewriting, as an older, other person, I should probably get rid not only of some of the faults of the story, but also of such merits as it originally possessed. And so, resisting the temptation to wallow in artistic remorse, I prefer to leave both well and ill alone and to think about something else.
Leave it alone, Lucas.

MOD PARENT UP (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10277563)

One of the most Insightful things I have read in a long time. *HINT HINT*

In fairness .... (3, Interesting)

gstoddart (321705) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277533)

As much as I don't really like that he's gone back in time and changed things, I can see his point of view.

I can also see why he's not willing to spend millions of dollars and a lot of time touching up the original version. But that's because he would want to give it the whole THX treatment as well as the digital touch up.

However, if he just did zero work on it and just put it on disk, I can't see it being too difficult to do. Not that Lucas would ever release a completely stripped down, un-fancy movie.

Re:In fairness .... (4, Insightful)

wattersa (629338) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277615)

Good points-- my biggest problem with the special editions was the new effects being unnecessary or integrating poorly with the originals. The Jabba the Hutt in the first special edition was really poorly done, he looked all blurry and was a different shade of color than the Jedi Jabba the Hutt. I admit that the sand pit in Jedi did look way too much like a really nasty vagina until Lucas put in the appendage with the beak, so that's fixed.

Re:Special Editions vs. regular (3, Funny)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277577)

Man, George is shameless!

I'm not going to spend the, we're talking millions of dollars here, the money and the time to refurbish that, because to me, it doesn't really exist anymore. It's like this is [the movie] I wanted it to be, and I'm sorry you saw half a completed [film] and fell in love with it. But I want it to be the way I want it to be. I'm the one who has to take responsibility for it. I'm the one who has to have everybody throw rocks at me all the time, so at least if they're going to throw rocks at me, they're going to throw rocks at me for something I love rather than something I think is not very good, or at least something I think is not finished.

Except for 'the movie' and 'film' it's the same exact quote Michael Jackson used to defend the plastic surgery of his [face] and [nose]!

Here's a clue to Lucas, from a non-SW fan... (5, Insightful)

Denyer (717613) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277628)

The other movie, it's on VHS, if anybody wants it. ... I'm not going to spend the, we're talking millions of dollars here, the money and the time to refurbish that, because to me, it doesn't really exist anymore

...fans of film in general don't care if the footage is refurbished. They just want a copy of the film as it was initially released in a format resistant to physical degradation.

Re:Special Editions vs. regular (1)

sgant (178166) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277634)

OK...fine. Then Mr. Lucas...let ME take the original films, refurbish and get them encoded to HD and then release them to the public in DVD then HD-DVD.

I'll throw in a percentage of the gross too. There, you won't have to spend the millions of dollars to refurbish them. All you have to do is cash the percentage check when they come in.

Mmm-kay?

To SW fans, from Lucas. (4, Insightful)

Kenja (541830) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277444)

"F-ck you all, I never wanted to make star wars in the first place. The special additions are as close as I can now get to what I realy wanted. I wont release the originals because the millions of fans that want to buy them wouldn't (or so the force tells me). Just buy my crap and shut the hell up."

While the above is paraphrased, its more or less whats in the interview.

Re:To SW fans, from Lucas. (4, Insightful)

deathcloset (626704) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277543)

there is no formula for success, but there is one for failure: try to please everyone.

Re:To SW fans, from Lucas. (3, Insightful)

Trigun (685027) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277637)

To me it looks like George isn't trying to please everyone, he is merely pleasuring himself. Repeatedly and furiously

The fact that the original Star Wars fans feel fucked is inconsequential.

Re:To SW fans, from Lucas. (2, Insightful)

darien (180561) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277573)

I wont release the originals because the millions of fans that want to buy them wouldn't (or so the force tells me).

That's not what he says at all. He says he won't release the originals because "I'm not going to spend the ... money and the time to refurbish that, because to me, it doesn't really exist anymore. It's like this is the movie I wanted it to be, and I'm sorry you saw half a completed film and fell in love with it."

I have to say, "half a completed film" is a rather misleading way of describing Star Wars - the film was perfectly complete as it stood, and the later additions are mostly pretty brief and insignificant. But still, he's not saying people wouldn't buy the original versions - he's saying almost the opposite. He won't release them because people would buy them in preference to his preferred versions.

Article in Brief - Luca$ Direction (5, Funny)

dbretton (242493) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277446)

Q: Where are you taking Star Wars?
A: Straight to the bank!

Re:Article in Brief - Luca$ Direction (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10277544)

That's how you read it?

All I saw was Lucus saying, "I'm the man! I'm the man! I'm the man! Me. Me. Me!"

The guy has one hell of a huge ego. It's clear he didn't learn a thing from making such sucky movies and still thinks he's god's gift to movie making. I don't think there will be another good Star Wars movie until after he dies.

Re:Article in Brief - Luca$ Direction (1)

gl4ss (559668) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277650)

* It's clear he didn't learn a thing from making such sucky movies*

according to *his* rules they didn't suck.
brought in plenty of money.

i'm just surprised he hasn't taken a page from lotr book and made extended editions yet.

Re:Article in Brief - Luca$ Direction (1)

Danathar (267989) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277640)

From Robocop:

"I'll buy that for a dollar!"

OB: (-1)

Thud457 (234763) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277448)

"Han shot FIRST!" post.

Direction (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10277451)

They also discuss the future of the franchise and the direction he intends to take it.
"I've been down so goddamned long,
It all looks up to me."

-- The Doors

George Lucas (0, Redundant)

boschmorden (610937) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277454)

...insert obligitory anti-Lucas, anti-SW, "raping" of our childhoods comment.....

There is..... (-1, Redundant)

turvalon (668877) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277460)

Nothing to see here... move along... move along...

ironic hilarity (4, Interesting)

boarder (41071) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277471)

Here is a story on IMDb about Lucas and his thoughts on Hollywood:
post at IMDb [imdb.com]

Choice quote from the master of looks over substance: (Hollywood is) "making hugely inefficient movies for great amounts of money and they aren't creatively very interesting."

I wonder if the people who say one thing and do another (like Lucas and the Douchebag of Liberty, Robert Novak) realize they are doing it or if they truly think they are special and doing the right thing.

Re:ironic hilarity (3, Insightful)

MrBlackBand (715820) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277587)

I wonder if the people who say one thing and do another ... realize they are doing it or if they truly think they are special and doing the right thing.

Remember, unlike in the movies no one ever thinks that they are evil. Everyone (Caesar, Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, Pinochet, etc.) thinks that they are doing the right thing and anyone who opposes them is evil. Not that I think George Lucas is evil, of course.

Juicy and stupid quote (4, Interesting)

Gogl (125883) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277474)

"Lucas: The special edition, that's the one I wanted out there. The other movie, it's on VHS, if anybody wants it. ... I'm not going to spend the, we're talking millions of dollars here, the money and the time to refurbish that, because to me, it doesn't really exist anymore. It's like this is the movie I wanted it to be, and I'm sorry you saw half a completed film and fell in love with it. But I want it to be the way I want it to be. I'm the one who has to take responsibility for it. I'm the one who has to have everybody throw rocks at me all the time, so at least if they're going to throw rocks at me, they're going to throw rocks at me for something I love rather than something I think is not very good, or at least something I think is not finished."

Yeah. Suuuure. You're an artiste, and you must complete your work! That must be it. Nevermind that to most artists, integrity means keeping their original work untainted. And nevermind how your tweaks and changes, well, are largely either stupid glitz or just plain stupid. Han shoots first, damnit.

Please please please, don't reward Lucas's shenanigans by buying the DVDs.

Re:Juicy and stupid quote (1)

Six Nines (771061) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277620)

I just want Lucas to fix the scene in Ep. IV where Luke jumps out of the X-fighter's cockpit and yells "CARRIE!!!" Still get a kick out of that, I do...

Talking about others' take on the SW universe (4, Insightful)

Tebriel (192168) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277479)

Some of it "might be good" George?

Some of it is DAMN good and much better than anything you'd ever come up with. Come on, George, give credit to people who've already taken your universe and made it better.

Extra-Special Director's Cut III (1)

Chuck Bucket (142633) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277484)

Yeah, how many times has this movie going to be changed? Pesonally I'd like to see it as I did when I was a 9 year old back in 78! Personally I can't stand the overuse of CGI in everything from LOTR (although that is the least offending of them since it's a fantasy type deal) to today's Hero movie. Especially bad was that Rock movie (only saw the ad for that) and the Brad Pitt disaster, Troy (again, the ad told me the 1,000,000 CGI soldiers would ruin the 'third wall' feeling of the movie).

Call me old school if you must, but if you're going to change/add to a movie upon re-re-re-release, please package adn title it as so

CB --- ---- ---- >

Re:Extra-Special Director's Cut III (4, Insightful)

Reziac (43301) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277648)

A little OT, but Troy surprised the hell out of me by being a very good movie that focuses on the personal interactions that caused the events depicted. And its CGI (despite taking a correctly back seat to the very well-managed plot and character development) is probably the most seamless I've seen to date. If you take it as historical fantasy, and don't expect a literal retelling of The Iliad, you'll like it. If you want The Iliad pristine and correct, read Homer. :)

That said, I want the original Star Wars back, the first release from 1977 without any mucking with the plotline, the visuals, or the soundtrack (which was pretty well fucked up by the re-release in 1978 -- if you didn't see it 1977, you've never heard the original soundtrack). I'm not interested in CGI "updates". I don't care if there's a tennis shoe and a potato floating in deep space. I'm not shocked that one of the Good Guys[tm] shoots first. But I *don't* want the flow of the movie interrupted by George's notions of how to "perfect" it.

Bah, sometimes people get things right the first time and just don't realise it. As Orson Scott Card said (and proceeds to violate regularly himself), the most important part of writing is knowing when to STOP.

Trilogy Changes (2, Informative)

MikeMacK (788889) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277486)

George Lucas Speaks on Trilogy Changes

Actually, I don't think he mentions any changes to the trilogy, other than they are the Special Edition versions.

Re:Trilogy Changes (5, Informative)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277651)

Actually, I don't think he mentions any changes to the trilogy, other than they are the Special Edition versions.

in the 90's they added a sequence of Han Solo talking to Jaba the Hutt at the space port. Jaba was added through computer animation, but the live shot of Harrison Ford was from the original filming. Upon reflection it added nothing to the story or the film that wasn't already apparently clear.

Not seeing Jaba gave the impression of something menacing. The CG Jaba looked small and rendered on a sheet of Saran Wrap which seemed to shift in the breeze and looked terrible.

Ahh the view from the high horse... (1)

j1bb3rj4bb3r (808677) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277487)

They all think outside the box, but they all have very strong ideas about what should happen, and they think it should be their way. Which is fine, except I'm making the movies, so I should have it my way.

He wouldn't have been saying this years ago when he was struggling, and he needed fans. Now that he doesn't, he has carte blanche to go ahead and f*ck with it however he wants. What he doesn't realize is that it's bigger than he is now, and that's because of the fan base. It's culture, and history will judge him harshly for his selfish ways.

Coming soon! Star Wars SE directors cut PLATINUM (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10277489)

Jar Jar shoots first!

Re:Coming soon! Star Wars SE directors cut PLATINU (3, Funny)

pklong (323451) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277507)

Coming soon in a fan created verson, Jar Jar gets shot first.

George Lucas is teh suck (0, Offtopic)

kad77 (805601) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277494)

'nuff said.

(THX 11-whatever anyone?)

An artist's work is never done? (3, Insightful)

kmb (56194) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277498)

I don't recall any stories about Picasso sneaking into museums with a paintbrush to touch up his old work....

Re:An artist's work is never done? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10277514)

Subsequently, Pablo Picasso was never called an asshole.

Oh boy, here it comes... (3, Insightful)

DroopyStonx (683090) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277500)

Tons of complaints about "Lucas needs a new Yacht" and "he's gonna fuck up/he has fucked up Star Wars"... ...only to have them immediately turn around and buy the damn product.

Revisionist BS artist (5, Interesting)

StefanJ (88986) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277520)

Man, I'm really coming to dispise this guy.

Read the unauthorized bio, Sky Walking, to get an idea of the changes that _Star Wars_ went through during its conception. No, the whole thing didn't occur to him in a flash with only technology holding him back from implementing it.

Like pretty much everybody, he made it up as he went along.

Even more pathetic: Why hasn't he done anything elese? Speilberg, love him or hate him, has gone beyond his kiddie-film origins, branched out and done lots of different sorts of films. He's grown up. He doesn't deal in comfortable bullshit any more.

Lucas, he's put a clothespin on his nose, settled in a bed of comfortable bullshit, and thinks he's doing us a favor by inviting us in.

Stefan

Everyone wants to go back to finish things? (1)

_archangel (30213) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277524)

"And even most artists, most painters, even composers would want to come back and redo their work now. They've got a new perspective on it, they've got more resources, they have better technology, and they can fix or finish the things that were never done. ... I wanted to actually finish the film the way it was meant to be when I was originally doing it."

The problem I see with this statement is that most artists, painters and composers create new works to apply their new resources and technology. They usually do not stay stuck in the past. And why does adding technology and resources change the content of the work (Han shoots first, etc.)?

Direction (1)

Telastyn (206146) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277527)

What's that? Into the ground? C'mon George, we don't need an interview to see that

What a clueless assclown (5, Insightful)

stratjakt (596332) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277530)


AP: Why did you change your mind and decide to put the original three movies out on DVD now?

Lucas: Just because the market has shifted so dramatically. A lot of people are getting very worried about piracy. That has really eaten dramatically into the sales. It really just came down to, there may not be a market when I wanted to bring it out, which was like, three years from now. So rather than just sit by and watch the whole thing fall apart, better to bring it out early and get it over with.


No, George, there may very well not be a market for this in three years. And not because of piracy. Because Star Wars is dead. 20 years ago I was into Star Wars as a kid, I bought the toys and had light saber duels in the playground with the other kids.

20 years later, and my kids really don't give a shit about Star Wars. This time around, you lost their interest to such notable franchises as "Spy Kids".

I'm not kidding. I tried to take my boy to Star Wars when it was re-released in theatres. He was bored, and couldn't sit through it's dated effects and cheesy dialog. I know Jar-Jar was supposed to suck the little kids into the Star Wars world, but he didn't. My kids thought him as annoying as I did.

There will be no market for Star Wars in 3 years, simply because it's uncompelling poorly written and over-marketted crap.

Much like Star Wars, it's original hardcore fanbase is growing up and dying off. The new stuff is not attracting new fans.

There's no market for a sequel to Citizen Kane either.

But of course, this idiot is inable to comprehend the writing on the wall, and follows the industry standard of blaming it all on piracy.

Make a good movie, and I'll pay to watch it.

Lucas Interview Special Edition (Orig. rereleased) (5, Funny)

Jakhel (808204) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277531)

Scenes from the original include..

AP: Why not release both the originals and special editions on DVD?

Lucas: The special edition, that's the one I wanted out there. The other movie, it's on VHS, if anybody wants it. ... I'm not going to spend the, we're talking millions of dollars here, the money and the time to refurbish that, because to me, it doesn't really exist anymore. It's like this is the movie I wanted it to be, and I'm sorry you saw half a completed film and fell in love with it. But I want it to be the way I want it to be. I'm the one who has to take responsibility for it. I'm the one who has to have everybody throw rocks at me all the time, so at least if they're going to throw rocks at me, they're going to throw rocks at me for something I love rather than something I think is not very good, or at least something I think is not finished.

AP: Do you pay much attention to fan reactions to your choices?

Lucas: Not really. The movies are what the movies are. ... The thing about science-fiction fans and "Star Wars" fans is they're very independent-thinking people. They all think outside the box, but they all have very strong ideas about what should happen, and they think it should be their way. Which is fine, except I'm making the movies, so I should have it my way.


Special edition scenes..

AP: Why not release both the originals and special editions on DVD?

Lucas: I'm George Lucas, bitch!

AP: Do you pay much attention to fan reactions to your choices?

Lucas: Yes, in fact I have a joke for the fans. What did the five fingers say to the face?

AP: Uhh..

Lucas smacks AP

Lucas: SLAP!

AP: ...

Lucas: I'm George Lucas, bitch!

Hmm. (1)

nastro (32421) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277535)

AP: Do you pay much attention to fan reactions to your choices?

Lucas: Not really. The movies are what the movies are. ... The thing about science-fiction fans and "Star Wars" fans is they're very independent-thinking people. They all think outside the box, but they all have very strong ideas about what should happen, and they think it should be their way. Which is fine, except I'm making the movies, so I should have it my way.

I have the impression that what the fans want is plot consistancy, not the debacle with "who shot first?" and so on.

Of course he has every right to do what he wants when making a film, but when he changes the course of events when he re-releases one of his films, people are gonna get pissed.

Sixty-seventh post (-1, Troll)

dzorz (706431) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277536)

Geo0g3 Luc45 c4n b1te my ass now!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111twofive w00t 1337

Is anyone else wondering... (2, Funny)

mod_parent_down (692943) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277537)

how an Anonymous Poster got to interview Lucas?

And WHY? You gotta milk that karma for all its worth!

A Job Half-Done ?? (4, Funny)

dbretton (242493) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277540)

"You know, it's too bad you need to get kind of half a job done and never get to finish it."

George, do us all a favor:

Envision Star Wars, exactly the way you would want it:
Then go on a drug-induced bender of unprecedented proportions while making it.

The end result: Half of a half-assed attempt at putting together the film in your visions, and possibly the greatest achievement of your career.

Q: Do you believe that consistency is important? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10277546)

from the article:

Lucas: ... I'm making the movies, so I should have it my way.

AP: After "Episode III," will you ever revisit "Star Wars"?

Lucas: Ultimately, I'm going to probably move it into television and let other people take it.

Lucas sucks. (5, Insightful)

valkraider (611225) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277550)

What an asshole. He basically said: "I know all the hard working and loyal fans want the originals but they can all go suck themselves off because I own the crap and I am god. But it's all OK because they'll bend over and take it anyway."

And the worst part is that, based on the way he opened the interview, if we all decide to *not* buy this crap, they will blame the poor sales on PIRACY - not the fact that he is making a high priced product that people don't REALLY want (again).

Lucas BS (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10277551)

It's like this is the movie I wanted it to be, and I'm sorry you saw half a completed film and fell in love with it.

Half completed? How? He added a bunch of filler scenes and touched up some special effects in the special editions. It's not like massive parts of the story were left out and put back in.

If you read the novelization of Episode 2, which explains why padme fell in love with Anakin and details Anakin's murder of the sand people then you know that if anything Episode 2 is the half finished movie.

where does the line start? (4, Funny)

putch (469506) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277556)

I'm the one who has to have everybody throw rocks at me all the time, so at least if they're going to throw rocks at me, they're going to throw rocks at me for something I love rather than something I think is not very good, or at least something I think is not finished.

where does the line to throw rocks at him start? do i need a ticket?

what a pompous ass

Star wars SE isn't all that special/finished (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10277560)

After all, he still have 195 and counting bugs [moviemistakes.com] to fix. That means George will do more hacks on HD-DVD/Blu-Ray SWSE++ release.

A Bounty Will Be Next (1)

blueZhift (652272) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277568)

Given Lucas' attititude about the original version of the Star Wars Trilogy, don't be surprised if he offers a bounty on the VHS sets out there. It'll be something like a discount on the DVD boxed set if you turn in a VHS set. Where will all of these VHS copies go? Why right next to all of those copies of ET for the Atari 2600 out in the desert! Lucas won't be satisfied until the original ceases to exist. It all has a very 1984esque feel to it.

wait a while, then we can make our own (1)

forgetmenot (467513) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277570)

That's ok... we'll just wait until 70 years after he dies and remake the original three the WE want it to be.

Or do those copyright laws apply here?

I call bullshit.. (3, Interesting)

gl4ss (559668) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277572)

on "And even most artists, most painters, even composers would want to come back and redo their work now.".

they'd like to do NEW WORK...

"I'm not going to spend the, we're talking millions of dollars here, the money and the time to refurbish that, because to me, it doesn't really exist anymore." umm. yeah sure.

"Ultimately, I'm going to probably move it into television and let other people take it." -> "I've noticed that pokemon is a hell of a money making machine and that it's really important to get to the kids every saturday morning"

disclaimer: the special editions aren't really that bad(they're done professionally after all and there's no yar yar..), but the reasoning the guy makes is just weak. though, for me the best stuff in the star wars universe were the games(more specifially, tie fighter) and books(the few good ones of them) - neither of which really happened in lucas's universe.

Who makes the choices.... (1)

Tenebrious1 (530949) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277599)

AP: Do you pay much attention to fan reactions to your choices?

Lucas: Not really. The movies are what the movies are. ... The thing about science-fiction fans and "Star Wars" fans is they're very independent-thinking people. They all think outside the box, but they all have very strong ideas about what should happen, and they think it should be their way. Which is fine, except I'm making the movies, so I should have it my way.


And I will not spend any more money to see Star Wars nor buy any merchandise... and that's MY choice.

George is taking his toys home! (1)

Atticka (175794) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277606)

Who pissed off Mr. Lucas? After reading the article George just sounds like a bitter old man crossed with an angry four year old...fine George! take your toys and go home!

Actually good news (1)

LetterJ (3524) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277609)

The best thing in that article was his statement that the move to TV will be left to someone else. Get rid of Lucas as the director and the TV incarnation has a chance.

No, there is another... (2, Insightful)

jaredbpd (144090) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277611)

I want this prediction put down for future reference. This attitude we see Lucas taking here, this "it's my work and the fans can go pound sand and watch my sucky rediting and uninspired dialog"... We've been treated to a prequel of what Kevin Smith in 20 years. Hell, he's well on his way already.
---

but what happens when Han wlaks over jabbas tail? (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10277613)

I remember how lucas changed this for the special edition because in the orig han walked around a CGI jabba but if taking to be real it would seem han is walking straight THROUGH jabba the huts tail! Lucas' fix was rubbish tho han sort of just nudged up then down and a new CGI jabba just sort of went OOWCH O_o

Thing is it looked unnatural and fake. I hope lucas fixes it again because IMO both the origonal and SE both didnt look right.

Microsoft philosophy? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10277624)

AP: Do you pay much attention to fan reactions to your choices?

Lucas: Not really. The movies are what the movies are. ...

Wow. in any other industry "do you care about your customers", people are trained to at least give them some lip service.

I've never heard anyone flat out say, "no, I don't give a fuck about my customers."

He sucks. Can't he be like any decent garage band and sell out to us guys asking for the han-shot-first version?

The Greatest Thing to happen to STar Wars (1)

Prince Vegeta SSJ4 (718736) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277625)

Lucas: Ultimately, I'm going to probably move it into television and let other people take it.

This could be the best thing to ever happen to SW since the originals. Of course it must be done correctly, but think about it: The Zahn novels as a series.

I drool over thinking about Dark Force Rising (or was this just the comic book name) Luke joining the darkside and coming back, on television.

Only if Lucas hands over the reigns though, ohh the potential.

WOOOOOT!!! (1)

miu (626917) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277632)

Ultimately, I'm going to probably move it into television and let other people take it.

It's about time.

Arrogant bastard (1)

pair-a-noyd (594371) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277639)

Lucas shows he doesn't respect the fans wishes, he only cares about his own self gratification.
If he really cared about his fans, he would release the original version on DVD and make the bastard version as an optional or put it on the flip side, like Blade Runner did.

George, we fell in love with the original, leave it alone. We don't care what YOU think, we care about what we grew up with. Don't trash our memories of the good times. It worked for us then and it made you filthy rich. Why do you insist on pissing on the little people that elevated you to such a high and mighty position?

Sit back on your "Skywalker Ranch" and piss on the heads of the little people, the little people that paid for your empire..

Oh, and BTW, I guess I'll have to put my old VHS tape onto DVD myself now. Thanks George..

Larger rocks? (1)

OverflowingBitBucket (464177) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277645)

Quoteth Lucas and AP:

AP: Why not release both the originals and special editions on DVD?

Lucas: The special edition, that's the one I wanted out there. The other movie, it's on VHS, if anybody wants it. ... I'm not going to spend the, we're talking millions of dollars here, the money and the time to refurbish that, because to me, it doesn't really exist anymore. It's like this is the movie I wanted it to be, and I'm sorry you saw half a completed film and fell in love with it. But I want it to be the way I want it to be. I'm the one who has to take responsibility for it. I'm the one who has to have everybody throw rocks at me all the time, so at least if they're going to throw rocks at me, they're going to throw rocks at me for something I love rather than something I think is not very good, or at least something I think is not finished.


I think the problem is that we are using rocks that are far, far too small.

(I still have my originals... bwah hah hah!)

in 3 years from now, no more DVDs? (4, Interesting)

WormholeFiend (674934) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277652)

Lucas: Just because the market has shifted so dramatically. A lot of people are getting very worried about piracy. That has really eaten dramatically into the sales. It really just came down to, there may not be a market when I wanted to bring it out, which was like, three years from now. So rather than just sit by and watch the whole thing fall apart, better to bring it out early and get it over with.

My bold. I wonder what the MPAA's take is on this...

sigh (1)

PreviouslySeen (714752) | more than 9 years ago | (#10277655)

Some of it might turn out to be pretty good. If I get the right people involved, it could be interesting.

Unfortunately, this should have happened for eps I II and III.
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