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Star Wars DVD Box Set Released

timothy posted more than 9 years ago | from the getcher-disk-on dept.

Star Wars Prequels 536

dealsites writes "CNN reports that George Lucas is releasing the Star Wars DVD box set early on September 21, 2004 due to piracy concerns. Lucas had intended to release the box set of the original 3 movies after Episode III: Revenge of the Sith was released. However, he mentions that due to piracy concerns the profits are being eaten up and there might not be a market for the films at that time. The box set contains the changes that Lucas has made from the original releases. CNN also reports on the top 5 major changes. Lucas is quoted as saying that he never intends to re-release the original 3 movies in the first CNN link."

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Attack of the Clones! (5, Funny)

bje2 (533276) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306672)

Attack of the Clones [slashdot.org]!!!

Re:Attack of the Clones! (1)

REBloomfield (550182) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306791)

yeah, exactly. If he was going to wait till after no. III, he may as well just release a big stonking 6 disc set instead.... as it stands, the DVD box set came out yesterday in the UK, and that's always been the date since way back in April, IIRC...

UK release yesterday (4, Informative)

CountBrass (590228) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306802)

Got to be a first, we actually got a US release *before* the US, rather than 3 months later as is usually the case.

Wife and I watch epIV last night (and yes Greedo and Han do shoot at the same time) and thoroughly enjoyed it: the improvements are noticable: especially compared to our worn out VHS copy ;-) some changes (all the wild life wandering in and around Mos Eisley for example) seem a little gratuitous but not over the top.

I'd give it a thimbs up so far (but then I always did like IV, V was risible, ewoks *spit*, and VI was OK).

DVD Quality? (1, Interesting)

crtfdgk (807485) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306673)

You know, even when they say they've digitally remastered it and all, I just can't tell the difference. I can always tell the difference in recent movies, but for old movies put into DVD, how does that increase quality? Doesn't the saying go "you can't get something from nothing"? How do they get "DVD quality" from old film? How could it look any better than the original VHS quality?

Re:DVD Quality? (-1, Offtopic)

aussie_a (778472) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306709)

How is this fucking flamebait?

Well I for one welcome our new overlords agree with crtfdgk. I too can't see the difference.

Re:DVD Quality? (1)

Outsider_99 (761534) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306711)

I don think it would look better then the original. I assume they would apply filters etc to make it seem to look better? May be color enhacements etc?

Re:DVD Quality? (5, Informative)

Phexro (9814) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306725)

Film has vastly more resolution than modern video devices are capable of displaying, including HDTV.

The process of transferring a film goes (roughly) like this:

Source material (film) -> master (video) -> cleanup -> duplication master -> consumer product.

"Remastering" refers to re-transfering the original film elements on a telecine, and cleaning them up to provide the best quality master for mass production possible. Unlimited quantities of DVDs may then be created from the duplication masters.

So they aren't creating the consumer DVDs from the VHS masters, but rather re-transferring from the original film elements. That, with the additional cleanup work (e.g. Scratchbox) is what makes a remastered/restored film look good.

Re:DVD Quality? (0)

toggles (560010) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306740)

> Film has vastly more resolution than modern
> video devices are capable of displaying,
> including HDTV.

then why are there all those black spots on the screen???

Re:DVD Quality? (1)

Phexro (9814) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306768)

Your question is nonsensical and out-of-context.

If you'd care to elaborate on the kinds of "black spots," and the type of TV (HD, old) you're talking about, I can probably answer your question.

Re:DVD Quality? (2, Informative)

Tim C (15259) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306815)

That's probably down to dirt/degradation of the film, rather than a lack of resolution (which would manifest as a lack of fine detail and blurriness)

Re:DVD Quality? (5, Informative)

tokachu(k) (780007) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306738)

We must have the facts:
  • Film has about 4000 lines of resolution.
  • DVDs in the U.S. have 480 lines of resolution.
  • VHS tapes in the U.S. have about 220 lines of resolution.
  • ...common sense calls...

Re:DVD Quality? (5, Informative)

binaryDigit (557647) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306743)

Doesn't the saying go "you can't get something from nothing"? How do they get "DVD quality" from old film? How could it look any better than the original VHS quality?

I'm sure there are 50 people replying right now, but ....

It's better because the original film is significantly higher res than VHS (one would think this goes without saying, but anyway). Even if it were a simple direct from master copy to DVD, you'd still get a significantly better end result than could be achieved by VHS. But typically they'll do other things in the process like cleaning up the print (digitally) while they're at it. Also note that the 35mm film is higher res still than DVD (which is actually quite low res) so there is still a lot of headroom there for even better quality formats in the future (e.g. DVD-HD).

Re:DVD Quality? (5, Interesting)

minasoko (710100) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306760)

Take a look at these pages for alleged quality differences between recent home releases of the films, including the 2004 DVD release.
- Episode IV [club-internet.fr]
- Episode V [club-internet.fr]
- Episode VI [club-internet.fr]

MOD PARENT UP ! (0)

mirko (198274) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306808)

Very good shots.

I just wonder where he got the 2004 ones. ;)

BTW, it looks like the colo(u)rs were warmer before they applied the digital correction...

Re:DVD Quality? (0)

dotwaffle (610149) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306765)

Two points - they don't remaster the VHS, duh!

Other point - they remastered it a few years back for VHS, and at the end of Return of the Jedi there is a sequence where everyone is happy as big explosion yadda yadda yadda, and the Ewoks start leaping around, and they put in a montage of computer generated fireworks over cities we have never seen before, and it looks completely out of place and rubbish. Why can't people understand that Special Effects for the sake of Special Effects is CRAP? The only Special Effects movie of recent years remotely watchable was I, Robot. And that was because I slept through the bit with Will Smith in the car being attacked by Robot-a-likes.

Re:DVD Quality? (5, Funny)

WebfishUK (249858) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306798)

It could never look as good as that night when my dad took me to the cinema when I was just 7 back in 1977. Largely because, after the subsequent years of squinting at cathode ray tubes and tft screens, my eyes where better when I was 7!

Sure. (5, Insightful)

Phexro (9814) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306682)

Yeah, the Star Wars franchise is really suffering due to piracy.

Versus, say, producing two completely crap prequels, oversaturating the tie-in market, and then not releasing the original versions that many people want to buy.

George Lucas doesn't need any more of your money, and this seems to be reflected by the decisions he has made as of late.

Re:Sure. (3, Interesting)

BathTub (75720) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306708)

I don't know if that is what George Lucas actually believes but I certainly don't believe it. I think that he waited another few years for the DVDs they would be going out of fashion, and the next big thing (HD DVD) is more likely, which of course he will be able to milk then too.

Re:Sure. (3, Interesting)

Jugalator (259273) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306712)

At least we got the original trilogy DVD. But I guess I'm in minority who actually appreciate this DVD and don't care much about who bloody fires first. :-)

Be No Original Trilogy Here.... (4, Insightful)

BRock97 (17460) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306906)

"At least we got the original trilogy DVD."

I hate to disagree, but we did not get the original trilogy. We got a trilogy that has been monkeyed with and, in parts, made worse while in other parts made better. On the whole, I like what he did to the three (even though I have seen the Hayden Christensen thing at the end of Jedi and hugely dislike it), but this is definately not the original trilogy.

Personally, I think that is what Lucas is worried about. Here you have three movies how he wanted them, now complete we can assume. But, a great many people hate the changes. So much so that in recently (like in the last couple of years), those with the laserdisc originals have been painstakenly moving those over to DVD and those are appearing online. I believe this is the piracy that Lucas is talking about. He wants to make those originals go away (he said so [yahoo.com] recently).

Re:Sure. (0)

Chester K (145560) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306723)

Yeah, the Star Wars franchise is really suffering due to piracy.

Everybody knows its because GREEDO DIDN'T SHOOT FIRST .

What's your point? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10306762)

Yeah, the Star Wars franchise is really suffering due to piracy. Versus, say, producing two completely crap prequels, oversaturating the tie-in market, and then not releasing the original versions that many people want to buy.

Uh how does the latter somehow negate the former? Either it's suffering from piracy or it's not. Now I do understand the argument that it might be suffering MORE from the whims of it's creator, but it doesn't make his statement any less valid.

Re:What's your point? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10306810)


The word fucktard was invented just for you.

Already got it ... (1, Informative)

drmancini (712059) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306685)

I already got my DVD set yesterday ... pre-ordered from UK amazon.

Had enough time to see some of the documentaries and i'm more then happy so far ... The documentary about the making of ANH was nothing I have ever seen before ...

Re:Already got it ... (2, Informative)

Silas is back (765580) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306749)

mine arrived Friday, preordered it from a Swiss online store. When they sent me the "Status: shipped" -email on wednesday last week I was quite surprised. And compared to the LD-rips I own they look damn awesome. Whats not reported in the CNN-Story is the change to the han-greedo-fiddle. It was changed to my pleasure, they fire almost at the same time. BTW jabba now looks quite realistic...

one is NOT the loneliest number (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10306686)

not when you're celebrating the epic awe of having the first post (or something close to it)

the ultimate box set (1)

politicsie04 (778589) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306687)

They should really bring out another box set with all the old changes, and new changes, infact just include the raw unedited movie footage, for all the uber star wars fans.

ruined my life (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10306688)

han shot first

No Market? (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10306692)

No Market? seriously now...there are 1,000,000,000 people foaming @ the mouth at the prospect of buying an "official" Star Wars Trilogy DVD Set....right?!?!

Re:No Market? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10306706)

Not me

Yes, but (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10306715)

Unfortunately the profits they would have made from those 1,000,000,000 people would be EATEN... by PIRATES! The scary "pirates" would somehow magically make all the money the legitimate customers paid just EVAPORATE!

Bad Wikipedia link (4, Informative)

Jugalator (259273) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306696)

... and here's a user-edited, unauthoritative, small, article from Wikipedia about the changes [wikipedia.org] in case anyone missed them. Please use multiple sources to confirm the validity of this information.

HA HA HA HA HA! (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10306697)

However, he mentions that due to piracy concerns the profits are being eaten up and there might not be a market for the films at that time

Yeah, and I'm sure that it has NOTHING to do with

1. The fact that everyone in the world who might want to buy copies of the Star Wars trilogy already owns it
2. The people who love the Star Wars trilogy enough they might buy new copies even though they already own it don't want anything with Lucas's stupid "digital enhancements" on them

It's becoming increasingly the case where ANYTIME anyone says ANYTHING about piracy, all this means is "we can't create a quality product people are willing to buy, and we're going to blame it on others". I mean, people have been talking about piracy for years, but at least at one time the people whining about so-called "piracy" were people whose products were actually being illegally traded online in some small quantity.

Hypocrisy filter (5, Funny)

koh (124962) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306698)


George Lucas is releasing the Star Wars DVD box set early on September 21, 2004 due to piracy concerns.
s/piracy/marketing/g

We had it yesterday in the UK (5, Interesting)

Zog The Undeniable (632031) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306705)

Looks really good in terms of picture quality, but Han/Greedo obsessives will not be placated; they now shoot at almost exactly the same time. And Sebastian "Anakin Skywalker" Shaw (at least in his non-disfigured state) has been CGI'd out of history and replaced with a mulleted Hayden Christensen.

Re:We had it yesterday in the UK (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10306774)

What the hell is it with that stupid scene!? In 5 years Lucas will make the Reloaded Edition where additional digitally spliced in Howard the duck, Indiana Jones and 20 identical Agent Smiths shoot up the entire cantina in slow-mo. WHAT WAS WRONG WITH THE FRIGGIN ORIGINAL SCENE, IT WAS ABSOLUTELY PERFECT!!!!

Whats up with these DVDs (0, Troll)

coolsva (786215) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306707)

Not to troll or something, whats up with these new 'enhanced' DVDs. I mean, it is the same movie, same scenes, with some extra conversations added and repackaged and sold as 'new and improved'. This is actually worse than the sequels to squeeze more money off the first one. Cant believe people still fall for it.
On a side note, I think this trend will continue since it seems to be the only way to make money despite piracy, increase customer base or sell more to same customers, in essence increase revenue. Trouble is at some point, the proverbial camel's back would break and people would comletely refuse to buy these 'new and improved' items.

Re:Whats up with these DVDs (1)

drmancini (712059) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306845)

only that it's the first star wars old trilogy release on DVD ... only that fans are waiting for a copy with digital 7.1 sound ... only that it's one of the best film trilogies of all time ...

Too Late (3, Interesting)

mirko (198274) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306710)

Lucas used Microsoft's strategy which consists of pre-announcing a product long before it'd be released.

The problem is that I made my mind and I am not sure I want to acquire this set because I am unsure I might watch it again and again...
This observation came after somebody lent me the 3-DVD set of the Indiana Jones Trilogy (which happened to have gotten really... obsolete) : I then thought it could be the same with SW.

But otherwise, had he released it today without pre-announcing it, I might have considered buying it... Simply because of the surprise effect which he voluntarily spoiled.

Re:Too Late (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10306816)

Lucas used Microsoft's strategy which consists of pre-announcing a product long before it'd be released.

Also Microsoft's strategy of blaming piracy for problems they created.

Old news (1)

weapon (783054) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306713)

I don't know if it has yet been released in Australia but there has been alot of ads for it all ready. (at least a fortnight)

Ehm, logic anyone? (5, Insightful)

Colonel Sponsz (768423) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306720)

Hm, let's see here:
* Fans are screaming after the original, non-Special Edition version.
* Lucas admits he's never going to release the original version.

So, the only way to get the original trilogy, on a decent medium (VHS doesn't count, Laserdisc isn't an option for 99% of the people out there) is through... piracy?

Now, here comes the big irony:
* Lucas releases the Star Wars SE DVDs early, over fear for piracy concerns.

Way to go Lucas!

Re:Ehm, logic anyone? (1)

xSauronx (608805) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306786)

well youre right anyway

i may *rent* the new ones eventually for the hell of it. i liked some of the new changes in the released in 97, and i went to the theatres to see star wars in a theater...

but im not into seeing hayden christense; having bobas voice changed., or much else....nice that lucas gets to play Big Brother with his fantasy world; but its starting to get annoying.

Re:Ehm, logic anyone? (1)

javasensai (815286) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306826)

Actually purchasing a laserdisk player can be a very cost effective entertainment decision. Take a look at eBay. You can buy "lots" of laserdisks at ~$1 a movie. The quality is better than you'd think. We have a 56' hitachi HDTV and they hold up very strong.

Ok you've found me out. Yes, I actually talked my wife into buying a laserdisk player solely for the purposes of watching Star Wars. Thankfully a friend gave me his old pioneer AND his mint boxed set of the Star Wars trilogy in exchange for some website work -Score!

Re:Ehm, logic anyone? (1)

loveaxelrod (544393) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306876)

So, the only way to get the original trilogy, on a decent medium (VHS doesn't count, Laserdisc isn't an option for 99% of the people out there) is through... piracy?

eh? - what's a decent medium? are you saying you'd rather have a DVD copy of a video tape? Because, unless I'm mistaken, that's the only pirate copy of the original you're going to be able to get on a decent medium.

Greedo! (2, Funny)

ImaLamer (260199) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306721)

From the article:

(sadly, Greedo still shoots first on the DVD of "A New Hope")

Damn you Slashdot!

My hopes were up for nothing, why should I buy this now?

Already in europe (2, Interesting)

blackmonday (607916) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306727)

I've been in Europe for 2 weeks, and it's been available at least since last week. It's selling for 79 euros, about 100 dollars. They're having TV promotions and everything. I thought most stuff showed up in Europe last?

Re:Already in europe (1)

drmancini (712059) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306751)

wake up ... that's only what they want you to believe in the States ... :-P

BTW ... seen farenheit 9/11

Re:Already in europe (1)

CountBrass (590228) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306870)

79 Euros!?!

Woohoo about time the Europeans rather than us Brits got the stiffed on the pricing of identical goods. In the UK it's GBP26.99 - GBP29.99, which is about 45euros/50dollars.

Now I get it... (1)

Lars Clausen (1208) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306731)

"due to piracy concerns the profits are being eaten up"

So, if they just stopped being concerned about pirates, theyød keep their profits. Laywars^H^H^H^H^Hwyers are quite expensive these days, aren't they?

-Lars

The scene change that upset me most (1)

yuud (690436) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306734)

Was NOT the Greedo scene (a close second), but actually the music-scene in Jabba's palace - the original song was called "Lapti Nek" by Sy Snoodles and the Max Rebo Band. It was a really catchy tune (just before Jabba dropped his pet/slave girl into the Rancor pit).

Now, Lucas swapped in some forgettable piece of crap and added pointless annoying extra characters, and ruined one of my favourite scenes.

So f! you, Mr Lucas.

On the weekend I watched Star Wars IV ('Special' Edition), and a friend who doesn't really remember star wars at all, commented on how stupid the Greedo scene was (looked fake).

Re:The scene change that upset me most (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10306821)

Yes, the song was actually quite good, "funkay" even. I only saw a glimpse of the new sequence in ads, and hated it instantly. *Really* bad CGI, really annoying song.
Put me off watching the Ep3 Special Edition completely.

misquote (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10306737)

Lucas was misquoted! He actually said "I will never ever release the unaltered originals unless it would be profitable, which it would, so I will."

Lucas went on to say that "I will only release these altered versions if I think people might buy them, which they wouldn't if I'd already announced the unaltered versions, which I never ever will."

The Lucas-bot then began spinning uncontrollably, shouting "Abort! Abort! until his handlers declared the press conference to be over.

Re:misquote (1)

secolactico (519805) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306852)

"I will never ever release the unaltered originals unless it would be profitable, which it would, so I will."

Expect the release of "Star Wars Classic" sometime in 2006. You know there are some fanboys that will start forming the line tonight.

Or... (1)

DrJonesAC2 (652108) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306748)

...However, he mentions that due to piracy concerns the profits are being eaten up and there might not be a market for the films at that time...

Right, the only reason there won't be a market is because everyone will be so disappointed with Episode III: Revenge of Jar Jar, that they would rather peel off thier own cuticles than see any more Star Wars movies.

I don't get it (5, Insightful)

chrisgeleven (514645) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306755)

The majority of Slashdot readers seem to be pissed about the greatest trilogy of all-time being released on the most popular video format right now.

Yes I know it isn't the original trilogy. But the SE is damn close to being it. Some of Lucas' "improvements" are *gasp* actually improvements! Yes, I know it isn't what was originally released, but this is Lucas' story and he owns the rights, so he is allowed to tinker with it until he is satisfied.

When I watch the SE, I don't vomit, I don't cry, I don't think about some part of my childhood slipping away. The great parts of the movie are still there. Luke meeting Obi-wan, the sunset, meeting Han, saving Leia, Obi-wan vs. Vader, "I am your father", the final duel, etc. It is all there still, just like it was back in the day.

The movies still give me that chill during certain scenes, where they just touch some part inside that you never knew you had.

Yes it might not be the originals, but I'll take 99% of the original on DVD over nothing. Maybe if you don't agree you should go watch again with an open mind. Instead of saying "why the fuck did Lucas change this! It isn't the same!" ask yourself "there must be a good reason for this."

Now I am going to go watch my copy of the trilogy...on DVD!

Re:I don't get it (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10306867)

Some of Lucas' "improvements" are *gasp* actually improvements!

Name one. I'm waiting. That's right. We will be here all fuckin day. Cause the only person who thinks those pieces of remasterd shit are improvements are George Lucas. Well I sure as fuck he is gonna buy all the copies they pressed of it. Cause all the geeks aren't.

I have lost all faith (1)

Groo Wanderer (180806) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306756)

I read the CNN article about the changes, and it strikes me that Lucas wasn't satisfied with dumbing it down, so he did more. The part about Greedo shooting first is simply inexcusable (yes, I know it is old).

Then he said the origionals won't be re-released. Come on now, I know Lucas has decided to turn in his testicles and make things all happy and pretty and safe, but why do you have to taint things that are already done?

I saw the midnight showing of PM, and the noon showing, and waked away wondering what went wrong. Later viewings only confirmed that it was indeed pablum. The midnight showing of AOTC was similarly painfull, but much less so. It took me further down the road of 'why god, why' rather than back 'OK, we are heading down the right path'.

The news from ROTS doesn't fill me with, wait for it, a new hope either. Someone put Lucas out of our misery before he directs again.

Then I read about the DVD. Yup, he wasn't satisfied with ruining only the memories, he has to ruin history. Does it seem cowardly to you that he won't allow the origionals to be put out for side by side comparison? Someone should lock him in a small cell with a copy of 1984 until he writes "I am soory for being so stupid and arrogant' on the walls once for every memory he killed.

-Charlie

Everyone would do well... (3, Informative)

CliffH (64518) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306759)

... to buy a laserdisc player, buy the trilogy on LaserDisc (my dad still has the original trilogy), record to DVD, and voila. Star Wars Episodes IV, V, and VI the way they were ORIGINALLY viewed. As an added bonus, the LaserDiscs do sound better than any VHS your going to find and the picture (barring laser rot or a warped LD) is pretty nice too. :)

CliffH

Re:Everyone would do well... (4, Informative)

jridley (9305) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306804)

That's why there's bittorrent, my son. There are currently 3 copies of the movie made from the Definitive Edition laserdiscs, all with great care, probably better than most people could do themselves. Check it out. They're all good.

Wohoo (3, Interesting)

mowler2 (301294) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306770)

So now it might be on all the torrent trackers, nice.

A thought: if I have bought the original VHS movies, is it morally wrong if I download this higher quality version of the same movie that I have already bought?

Re:Wohoo (1)

acceleriter (231439) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306773)

Why not? The movie industry already claims you ownly have a license, and that if you own a Macrovisioned, CSSd, or other copy inhibited medium, that they won't provide a backup.

Piracy wouldn't be such a problem if (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10306772)

There wouldn't be so many of us dedicating bittorrent bandwidth to sharing these if he'd just release the damn movies in their original theatrical release.

I personally had already waited years for the DVD release, and would have happily waited another year and just bought the damn thing. But I've bought the original series THREE TIMES already; on CED videodisc, then twice on VHS (the first one wore out), then I bought the "special edition" on VHS, which was good because it told me I didn't want to ever see THAT again.

All I want is an archival quality copy of the ORIGINAL movies. I would have paid for it even though I've already bought the damn movies 3+ times. But it's not for sale. I hate to call it pirating, it's just that I'm just not buying what Lucas is selling.

My feelings on the changes (5, Insightful)

AndrewStephens (815287) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306783)

  • Jedi Don't Scream
    This is a good, it sounded stupid. Kudos to Lucas for correcting a mistake
  • Boba Fett has a new voice
    Again, not a bad for consistency.
  • A new and improved Jabba
    Thank god, the SE scene looked incredible dumb. Hopefully they have also removed the Han walking over Jabba's tail bit with some creative editing. Actually, I wish that the whole scene was removed, or greatly shortened since Greedo basically repeats all the information to Han later on.
  • The emperor's new clothes
    Fair enough, since we all know by now that Palpatine is the emperor (or do we...)
  • The big finale
    Everyone seems to be complaining about this, but I think it makes sense. The picture circulating on the net looks a bit stupid though, seeing Christensen smiling untouched at the end looks somehow wrong. He could at least look a bit guilty for wiping out the Jedi. Still the original wasn't much better.
Final Verdict: mainly positive

Re:My feelings on the changes (1)

Gax (196168) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306832)

Yet they forgot to edit the bit where a storm trooper hits his head. All clone troopers are created equal, but some are more clumsy than others?

Piracy concerns? (1)

fib2004 (753099) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306784)

I always wondered why there could be piracy concerns at all and why releasing things earlier could prevent piracy.

In my opinion, a DVD box set is something you want as an object in itself, you just don't want the poor copies of the movies. The way the box looks, the way it smells (!) makes it an object of devotion, something you realy want to have in your collection. And I don't think that I'm the only one that puts more value in the box than in the movies it holds.

For piracy concerns, I don't see the point. The films have already been released illegaly, of course in the unmodified form but surely also in the new form (if this wasn't the case, Lucas wouldn't mind about an early release), and I don't see why people that have the choice of copying or buying it would change their mind because the legal form is released earlier

If anyone choosed to buy it, he would download it from the net first, then buy it when it's released. If another person choosed just to copy it, he surely wouldn't buy it because it is released earlier, but this is just my opinion...

My reasons to buy it (1)

hsoft (742011) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306856)

I am currently struggling. The fight is extremely tough. I know I shouldn't. This is waste of money... but there are 3 main reasons for me to buy this:

- I will finally own the ENGLISH version. When I bought the VHS set, I was a clueless teen, and I wasn't clever enough to buy english versions. I *hate* french versions of movies. The french voices in most movies sound so... gay!

- The movie quality is a concern. I will finally see that movie at high resolution.

- I guess that... the box look and feel and smell (!) would be a distant third. (Edgar modified quote in FFVI. Believe it or not, I restarted a game yesterday. Still the best game ever... Darnit, I'm definately in a nostalgic period...)

Not the original versions? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10306790)

"These aren't the DVDs you're looking for."

hates him Lucas forever! (4, Funny)

Illserve (56215) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306792)

"But the most noticeable change -- and perhaps one some "Star Wars" diehards will have a tough time stomaching -- is Hayden Christensen (who plays young Anakin in the prequel trilogy) now appearing in the scene where the "force ghosts" of Anakin, Obi Wan, and Yoda smile at Luke."

he stoles it from us, my precious
Filthy filthy changeses!!

Do these changes really have to be made (4, Insightful)

Blue23 (197186) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306793)

Look, it's well established that the first three movies are a classic. But some of the changes seem to bring the classic in line with the latest shovel-fed garbage. Redubbing Boba Fett's voice? Replacing the Anakin Skywalker ghost?

It's like taking Dracula (the original) and "updating" it so it's got smoother continuity with all of the cheesy vampire moves made over the years.

Guess what - there already is a break between the original trilogy and the 2/3 releases prequel trilogy. If you need to adjust to bring them in line, adjust the new junk to be in line with the classic, not the other way around!

Hopping mad,
=Blue(23)

Piracy (5, Insightful)

here4fun (813136) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306801)

In some ways, the studio's are just as unethical as a pirate. They will re-release a movie over and over again. First comes the vanilla version, with maybe a trailer and nothing else. Then comes the Collectors Edition, with a commentary track and production notes. Then comes the Directors Cut with added footage, remastered nontheless. Why can't they release the best version first? Instead, if you want the movie and the extra's, you have to buy it twice. BTW, this all comes after the $10 movie ticket price where popcorn is $5 and a coke is $5 and you have to sit through half an hour of commercials if you want a good seat. Now tell me again, how are the pirates unethical? What money are they taking away from the studios? Clearly piracy ain't cutting in on the movie ticket sales, or any of the special edition sets.

This is not to say that piracy is good, but considering how the movie studios treat the customers, I don't feel bad for them one but. Maybe if the movie studio's treated me better I would have more sympathy for them (for example, quit with the half hour advertising before a movie). Oh, and my biggest DVD gripe, STOP WITH THE ADVERTISING THAT CAN'T BE SKIPPED.

BTW, in unreleated news, I was reading that movie studios will now accept advertising in movies. Like in "I, Robot" the studio recieved money for a shoe commercial (converse shoes, I think). What is next? I can just see some of the classic movies, improved with product placement. I can just imagine Citizen Cane where everyone where's nike shoes and drinks Pepsi.

Re:Piracy (1)

AndrewStephens (815287) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306886)

Product placement in movies is nothing new, its been going on for decades (ET is full of it for example). Depending on the movie, a significant percentage on the production costs can be offset by accepting product placement deals and having your hero drink a nice can of Coca Cola(tm) to quench his thirst. Basically, any time you see a recognisable logo in a movie, money has changed hands.
What is next? I can just see some of the classic movies, improved with product placement. I can just imagine Citizen Cane where everyone where's nike shoes and drinks Pepsi.
This has already happened to an extent. For older movies from the 1980s, often the original product placement deal has expired and the movies have been altered to show other products when shown on TV.

Of course, being SciFi not even Lucas could manage to squeeze any product placement in the StarWars films.

In movies advertisement always existed (1)

hsoft (742011) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306891)

Advertising "in movies" always existed! Fedex in Cast away. Don't tell me you didn't think THAT was advertisement!

And dolorian (I don't know how to spell it, I'm too young) in back to the future (We also see his Nike shoes a lot in that movie...).

Not impressed (1)

Opalima (744615) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306809)

What we're basically getting here is a tired rehash of a series that's over 27 years old.
Not really worth getting excited over imho.

And while I think George deserves his due, he's already made bazillions off the series - piracy should be the least of his rationals for rereleasing the original series early.

On not releasing the orignal versions... (1)

bluegreenone (526698) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306811)

This is from a recent AP interview [qctimes.com] with George Lucas.
Q: Why not release both the originals and special editions on DVD?

A: The special edition, that's the one I wanted out there. The other movie, it's on VHS, if anybody wants it. ... I'm not going to spend the, we're talking millions of dollars here, the money and the time to refurbish that, because to me, it doesn't really exist anymore. It's like this is the movie I wanted it to be, and I'm sorry you saw half a completed film and fell in love with it. But I want it to be the way I want it to be. I'm the one who has to take responsibility for it. ....

What a totally selfish point of view. George Lucas has this idea that Star Wars was his baby so the fond memories of millions of people and the historical significance of the film take a back seat to his wishes. The argument about spending money on releasing the originals is obviously unfounded, there would be enough fans out there to pay for it. Of course it's possible he's saying this to make sure to maximize sales of the special edition, and he could "change his mind" later and release the originals. But even this would be preferable to never releasing them because of his whims.

Re:On not releasing the orignal versions... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10306878)

What a totally selfish point of view. George Lucas has this idea that Star Wars was his baby so the fond memories of millions of people and the historical significance of the film take a back seat to his wishes.

How the fuck is THAT selfish? It'd be like me writing a novel, people loving it, and then going back and revising some parts of it, saying "This is what I always had in mind"

Bottom line: Don't fucking criticise someone's work until YOU make something equivalent.

Released yesterday in the UK (1)

GothChip (123005) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306818)

I got my DVD box set yesterday so spent last night watching Star Wars.

Picture quality was good overall but they have really upped the colour saturation. The other changes I didn't like was the new blaster bolts and the lightsaber "flares". Now whenever two lightsabers touch I large flash appear on screen that even shows in of objects that should be blocking it (Like Darth Vader's back in the Obi Wan showdown). I'm half expecting a recall announcement due to how crap they look.

Thanks (0)

hsoft (742011) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306875)

That the kind of comment I needed to read to resist the temptation of wasting my money on that.

I knew it (2, Funny)

SQLz (564901) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306823)

From interview:

Q: Why did you rework the original trilogy into the special-edition versions in the late 1990s?

LUCAS: To me, the special edition ones are the films I wanted to make.....

I knew it all along. Given enough time and money, he would have fucked up the first 3 episodes anyway. Obviously they were all just luck.

So.... (1)

Flabby Boohoo (606425) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306831)

The process of creating these DVDs takes some amount of time I would imagine. I wonder if Lucas planned to do it this way all along?

Or is it possible to crank out a box set last minute?

Say what you want, just spell my name right.... (1)

CFD339 (795926) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306837)

Lets all keep in mind two things.

1. Its all fodder for the massive publicity machine. We're talking about, that will sell the box set. Lucasfilms is very aware that the /. community types will buy this no matter what (with of course some die hard exceptions out of protest). In the mean time, all this talk means everyone else will be more and more aware of the release and its 'improvements' -- and many will buy it.

Say anything you want about me, just spell my name right -- classic marketing.

2) ITS JUST A MOVIE. Its a good movie. Its a great story. Its a (somewhat) well realized SF world. That's it.

What about the poor guy that played Boba? (2, Interesting)

343 Guilty Spark (810884) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306854)

Has anyone spared a thought for this poor guy? For years, he was Boba Fett.. that was his claim to fame.. Now even his voice in has been replaced by Temura Morrison or as we down here in NZ like to call him "dear old movie whore" for his ability to pop up in the most unlikely movies (the worst being Vertical Limit with that horrible fake shifting accent as the helicopter pilot). I mean sure he can say "thats me" and point... but people will just say "you don't look Maori to me man.." :)

mo3 3own (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10306859)

too, can be a When done playing Long term survival performing.' Even practi3al purposes, faster, cheaper, as liitle overhead way. It used to be

wtf (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10306863)

I love how slashdot takes a perfectly legit story and tries to make a bad guy out of it. Nevermind the fact that the Star Wars boxed set is coming out based on the success of the Indiana Jones boxed set success, no one on slashdot can comprehend that it seems. You faggots are probably too busy jerking off to anime.

Fuck you George Lucas haters, fuck slashdot, fuck the nit picking Star Wars analyzers(I don't give a fuck if Greedo did or didn't shoot first) and just pay your 50$ and enjoy the movies like you're supposed to.

He is insulting his customers! (1)

Kevin Burtch (13372) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306866)


He's basically saying that all Star Wars fans are pirates suffering from obsessive/compulsive disorder!

He's saying we will all pirate his movies as soon as they are posted somewhere, but if he releases them... we will all go out and buy them rather than waiting for someone to post them.

WTF?!?

Way to win a loyal customer base, bonehead!

Old news (1)

Danj2k (123765) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306877)

Yesterday called, they'd like their current affairs back. Oh wait, I forgot that you AMERICANS didn't get your Star Wars yesterday :)

Piracy Wins this time! (2)

mrshowtime (562809) | more than 9 years ago | (#10306884)

For once video piracy has a positive effect. I bought the HK bootleg dvd several years ago, but I already owned several versions of the SW trilogy on Laserdisc, let alone the countless vhs tapes I still have. In effect, Lucas has given free reign to pirates to pirate the original trilogy (unenhanced) for good. Lucas himself has said that the original trilogy does not exist anymore, thus giving free reign to copy it. If he really did push up the release of the original trilogy because of piracy, then he did it for the wrong reasons.

People will buy the Star Wars Trilogy FOREVER, no matter what formats come after DVD. In 2020, people will buy the "Holovision" version of the Trilogy, just as many bought the dvds today.

I can agree with Lucas' decision to "enhance" the trilogy to his original vision, but to deny the release of the original versions, just because he is stubborn is just him being a prick.
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