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New California Law Bans Anonymous Media File Sharing

timothy posted more than 9 years ago | from the now-that's-helpful dept.

Privacy 679

An anonymous reader writes "It looks like California will soon be requiring emails to share files. The story from SF Gate has a few details as Ahnold goes on his signing spree in Sacramento. 'Aiding the industry that helped him gain worldwide fame, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger signed legislation Tuesday aimed at discouraging online piracy by requiring anyone disseminating movies or music on the Internet to disclose their e-mail address.' Also he signed a bill to limit the sale of video games."

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679 comments

Paying Back Favors and Pot Whitwashes Kettle (5, Funny)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323386)

The signing was hailed by the bill's sponsor, the Motion Picture Association of America,

Well, if they sponsor it, it's gotta be good for the Governator and what's good for him is good for California. You got something to say about that, Girly-man?

the Motion Picture Association of America, which says it loses $3.5 billion annually to piracy

Hollywood accounting, ya gotta love it, babe.

Governor and video game star Arnold Schwarzenegger has signed a measure aimed at curbing sales of violent video games to children. .. Some of Schwarzenegger's movies were spun off into video games that bear the governor's likeness - although they are not among the most violent under the industry's ratings system.

Sure is helpful to have connections to those who determine what violent is. He might want to consider a ban on showing caskets of returning service personnel from Iraq, as that could upset impressionable television viewers.

Re:Paying Back Favors and Pot Whitwashes Kettle (3, Interesting)

stratjakt (596332) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323470)

Governor and video game star Arnold Schwarzenegger

Video game star? What video game was he in besides T2: Arcade?

Re:Paying Back Favors and Pot Whitwashes Kettle (1)

bofkentucky (555107) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323514)

I'm pretty sure there was a "Last Action Hero" game

Re:Paying Back Favors and Pot Whitwashes Kettle (1)

smackjer (697558) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323543)

T3: Rise of the Machines. ;)

Games (1)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323603)

T3 [imdb.com] , but it's violence for good which is Ok, right?

Re:Paying Back Favors and Pot Whitwashes Kettle (3, Informative)

NoMoreNicksLeft (516230) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323551)

the Motion Picture Association of America, which says it loses $3.5 billion annually to piracy

Hollywood accounting, ya gotta love it, babe.


Yeh, my favorite was that Forest Gump made no profit whatsoever. At least for the purposes of royalties to the original author. Haha.

Wonder what this means for my own anonymous network... we're finally starting to see some geometric growth. Figures, eh?

Ahnold? (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10323394)

It's Arnold, not Ahnold, you insensitive clod!

NO. (2, Interesting)

Clothist (815659) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323395)

Screw this. I am not going to obey this law. Tough. Go ahead and arrest me or fine me or whatever, when I get out/pay fines, I'll go right back to doing what I was going.

Disclosure: I don't live in California.

Re:NO. (2, Insightful)

sTalking_Goat (670565) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323534)

Screw this. I am not going to obey this law. Tough. Go ahead and arrest me or fine me or whatever, when I get out/pay fines, I'll go right back to doing what I was going.

My sentiments exactly. This law is almost impossible to enforce. Trying to chase down people who break this law will cost the state millions. So what the point? Sounds like Arnold kowtowing to the Industry.

I didn't vote for the man, but I had to admit a while back that he was doing a decent job. Now this...

fp (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10323396)

fp

Was he not paying attention? (5, Funny)

UID1000000 (768677) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323399)

I don't get it? Either he doesn't get it either or he wasn't paying attention while he was signing these bills. ...Anyone think he was busy pumping?

sure, he can have my email address (5, Funny)

Indy1 (99447) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323400)

its either billg@microsoft.com

or

president@whitehouse.gov (or was it .com ?:) )

Re:sure, he can have my email address (5, Funny)

flyboy974 (624054) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323519)

Bill, could you please write me back. I would like to talk with you about your quest to rule the world.

Your bud, god@heaven.com

P.S. - There can be only one.

About that "There can be only one" (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10323620)

Meet me at the designated place:

hashem@shemayin.com

Re:sure, he can have my email address (1)

HikeFanatic (809939) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323605)

That's what I do on many web sites, typcially blowme@devnull.com.

Arnold is jsut rubber-stamping legislation written by a bunch of idiots who are "try to save the children" - the generation raised by Dr. Spock.

As for the violent video games, give me a break. I remember they were blaming Dungeons & Dragons, then other RPGs, DOOM, Quake, Half-life and whatever else is coming down the pipe. Whatever happened to parents making their own decisions?

Never mind...they like legislation to do their thinking for them. That's why we have a bunch of stupid laws like this on the books.

Disclose email (1, Offtopic)

savagedome (742194) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323405)

Alright. Go mailinator go!

Re:Disclose email (1)

ikkonoishi (674762) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323619)

Nah. Just use this.

governor_@_governor.ca.gov

(Might be wrong harvested it here [ca.gov] )

HA! (5, Funny)

Malicious (567158) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323412)

ipiratemusic@hotmail.com
anonymimityismyfriend@hotmail.com
youcantfindme@hotmail.com

Need I continue?

Re:HA! (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10323492)

ifartinyourgeneraldirection@hotmail.com? Or is that too long?

So... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10323413)

Set up a free email account and never check it.

http://gmail.google.com/gmail/a-df1a8a3530-9d279 2d bf5-9adf5287fc

Re:So... (1)

chris_mahan (256577) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323574)

But set it up from a computer at a net cafe. or kinko's. Pay cash.

It will never survive. (3, Insightful)

Class Act Dynamo (802223) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323415)

I am willing to bet it will be struck down as inhibiting legitimate anonymous free speech.

Re:It will never survive. (0, Redundant)

Kenja (541830) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323520)

"I am willing to bet it will be struck down as inhibiting legitimate anonymous free speech."

Since when does freedom of speach extend to the illigal distribution of copywritten movies over the internet? Since that is the only instance when this law can take effect I realy dont see what everyone is so worked up over. Hell, there is even an exception clause for sending movies to your firends and family.

Re:It will never survive. (1)

strictfoo (805322) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323552)

"Have you ever thought about just turning off the TV, sitting down with your kids, and hitting them?"

I love that sig.

It's "copyrighted", dumbass. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10323589)

You don't spell it "copywrite", do you?

Re:It will never survive. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10323612)

I am willing to bet it will be struck down as inhibiting legitimate anonymous free speech.


There's no right to anonymous free speech -- one of the important issues regarding free speech is the responsibility for what you say.

If you can find a law that protects your anonymity as a right, you're really on to something.

What's with these laws? (5, Interesting)

strictfoo (805322) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323418)

I mean, I really really don't it. It's already illegal share movies. Now in order for them to allow me to commit an illegal act I have to share my email address?

What's next: "Before you rob a store you must inform the local police of your intentions"?

Re:What's with these laws? (4, Informative)

whoever57 (658626) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323478)

I mean, I really really don't it. It's already illegal share movies. Now in order for them to allow me to commit an illegal act I have to share my email address?

According to my understanding, even if you have permission to share the file, you still have to provide an address.

that (4, Insightful)

Trepidity (597) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323535)

Is probably not constitutional. You can't stop a willing group of participants from engaging in anonymous conversation with each other.

Re:What's with these laws? (3, Insightful)

Neil Blender (555885) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323485)

Now in order for them to allow me to commit an illegal act I have to share my email address?

What's next: "Before you rob a store you must inform the local police of your intentions"?


Just like it's illegal to not report profits from illegal activities to the IRS. It gives them more ammo to use against you. If they can't prove one thing, they have something else to go after you for.

Liberals = Idiots (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10323419)

His "Signing Spree" is helping the film industry make more money to make better films.

Liberals are all idiots by the way

Re:Liberals = Idiots (1, Funny)

flyboy974 (624054) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323558)

Us liberals are such idiots thinking that people should be able to do what they want. We just want to let people marry whomever they want, smoke whatever they want, say whatever they want. I'm glad that you have helped me find my way. Sincerely, Music Sharer - god@heaven.com

Sure. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10323420)

Here's my email.

slashdot.to.jlbraun@xoxy.net

Hello Russian Free Email Account (2, Interesting)

Proc6 (518858) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323425)

Time to sign up for an @something.ru or the like.

Hosting biz (1)

pergamon (4359) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323426)

The web hosting biz in CA will be picking up and moving elsewhere.

Internet vs Arnold (2, Insightful)

linuxislandsucks (461335) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323428)

He will find like othr dimwitted politicians that the Internet was founded onsharing and any law to curtail that will be unenforcible

Disclose my email address? (1, Interesting)

stratjakt (596332) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323430)

Sure, stratjakt@hotmail.com. Come get me RIAA!

How could they expect to enforce this in other states, let alone other nations?

What's with California? Do they think they're the worlds government or something?

Yet, all the new internet laws seem to be popping up in California. That place is the land of the batshit crazy freaks.

Re:Disclose my email address? (1)

Swamii (594522) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323591)

Yet, all the new internet laws seem to be popping up in California. That place is the land of the batshit crazy freaks.

Conservatives have been saying that for years. Now that a Republican is governor (albeit an economic leftist), liberals are finally beginning to agree.

Violation of rights? (5, Insightful)

uchi (534979) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323431)

Is it just me, or is it a violation of your rights(as an American)? I can think of situations where I could be sharing perfectly legal media, and would not want my email address/identity tied to it. For example, if I produced a documentary about how bad the company I work for is, I should be able to disperse that to those who please. There would most definitely be reprecussions if it was found out who made it, and this bill would just make it all the easier.

Re:Violation of rights? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10323538)

Buddy, you don't have as many rights as think you do. You have no constitutional right to anonymity.

You know what slippery slope we're on? The one that'll kill us? The one were everyone constantly get 1 more right and 1 less responsibility.

That explains why... (5, Funny)

kevman42 (681617) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323432)

I've seen a lot more files from this user: illbeback@mailinator.com

ahnold (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10323433)

ahnold@california.gov

Information wants to be free (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10323434)

as in beer.

Does Californica not realize that the Internet will treat this as damage, and route around it? You can't make your tiny part of the Internet have different rules than the rest of the Internet. It just doesn't work. Unenforceable.

Free Beer is a bad analogy (1)

ericspinder (146776) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323615)

Information wants to be free, as in beer.
Don't get me wrong, I am all for free beer, but Free Beer generally comes with some catch, like advertisement, pressure to purchase other items, or spending time with someone who you'd rather not. It also generates other issues, for example: (in the U.S.) you are not able to have beer until your 21, Beer is taxed, and the act of consuming Beer produces waste.

The correct term is "Free as in Speach"

This is like outlawing spam (1)

Three Headed Man (765841) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323435)

Spam is more or less illegal. I still get plenty of offers to enlarge my penis every day. How does this help anything?

Re:This is like outlawing spam (1)

Shnizzzle (652228) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323526)

Now you will get spammed to buy gigli on DVD. Finally the MPAA will be able to help me locate quality films.

Let me get this straight... (3, Funny)

mentalflossboy (811716) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323443)

So you have to provide an email address if you're "disseminating" movies/music/etc. What purpose does that serve other than to direct the MPAA straight to your door?

Don't make it sound so ominous... (4, Insightful)

The-Bus (138060) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323444)

Governor and video game star Arnold Schwarzenegger has signed a measure aimed at curbing sales of violent video games to children. AB 1793, by Assemblyman Leland Yee, D-San Francisco, requires stores to post signs and offer brochures about the industry's game-rating system.


I doubt that even accomplishes anything. But if it does what it is intended to do, inform parents/consumers, more power to them. Parents should be aware when they are buying San Andreas for their kid.

As far as the email is concerned? Ludicrously unenforceable, so I'm not paying attention to it.

Re:Don't make it sound so ominous... (2, Interesting)

stratjakt (596332) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323586)

I don't know how better informed they could be. The rating system is prominent on the package, and easy to understand, no signs or brochures needed.

I mean, the box for GTA3 has a hooker and a pimp and other thugs on it, has a giant M for mature, under which it says "Realistic Blood and Gore" "Adult situations" and "Foul language", or something close to that.

Who looks at that and thinks "this sounds like a great present for my 4 year old nephew"?

The movie industry survived without special laws. Noone was stupid enough to think that Scarface was a good movie for little kids.

Know what it's about? Get out your tinfoil hat. The video game industry has surpassed the movie industry in sales. It's imperative that the MPAA cut it's hamstrings, or do something to slow it down. More people have played "Chronicles of Riddick" on XBox than have seen the movie.

Not that I'm suggesting that Arnold Shwarzenegger has any ties to the movie industry, or anything like that.

Try to make it more of a pain in the ass to buy video games, just maybe people will spend their entertainment bucks on DVDs instead.

Just a thought.

Re:Don't make it sound so ominous... (1)

erick99 (743982) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323600)

My 10 and 14 year old sons can buy any video game they want. They do understand, however, that I will be sitting around for the initial game play and if it is inappropriate for them, they lose it. As a result, they buy what they know they are allowed to buy. If parents are letting their kids buy video games that they would object to, then they need to try harder to be a part of that purchasing decision. I don't think brochures are going go make any more difference than brochures about using condoms. The target audiences are not much into brochure reading.

-erick

ahnold!!!! (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10323451)

if i caatch you shaaareing fiiles, i will torminate you! raaagaaa!!! raaaaah!

Apple? (3, Insightful)

CanSpice (300894) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323453)

What email address does Apple get to use? Or Real? Or Microsoft?

You forgot the most important bill (5, Funny)

antifoidulus (807088) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323457)

he signed a law that finally made necrophilia a crime in California. Who cares about file sharing...
When the casket is a 'rockin
Don't come a 'knockin

Re: You forgot the most important bill (1)

youknowmewell (754551) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323523)

Just perform an exorcism.

Email address? That'll pin em down (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10323458)

Right, *no* one will be able to distribute *anything* anonymously if they have to provide an EMAIL address...

After all, an EMAIL address is as solid an ID as a fingerprint!

Signed, arnoldschwarzeneggar245573@hotmail.com

Re:Email address? That'll pin em down (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10323594)

Hey, if you can spell "Schwarzeneggar" correctly, then you must be the real deal!

Spoofed Email (1)

Archangel Michael (180766) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323462)

What is to prevent people from using a onetime email address? I have a few domains that have unlimited email addresses, what is to prevent me from "renting" out email address space for one time usage? Signup anonymously.

Puhleeze.

Smart move (1)

Izago909 (637084) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323463)

So if I want to share files I must sign up for a free hotmail account that I never intend to use? What good is that supposed to do? Sounds like another example of legislating something that looks good on paper, but is completely non-functional in the real world. How might this law be used? "We can't get them on copyright infringement, so we will get them on not publicizing their email address."

Nothing new. (1)

BitHive (578094) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323465)

You've had to provide your e-mail address when connecting to so-called "anonymous" FTP servers for years. What's the big deal?

Oh, wait, you mean nobody actually checks what you put in there? Well, what's the use of that!? Oh...

Mailinator? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10323468)

Is this [mailto] good enough?

Arnie (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10323469)

You Stupid pawn of "big business". Good thing you cannot run for President.

Enforcable? (1)

wviperw (706068) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323471)

I don't see how this can be enforcable in any practical way. I mean, who is to say that you are giving a valid e-mail address in the first place. And furthermore, even if you do give a valid e-mail address, does that help to connect an internet identity to a indivudal, any more than an IP does?

I'm also worried about the fact that they are trying to limit anonymity. That is one of the staples of the entire concept of the Internet, isn't it?

How does this change anything? (2, Insightful)

Shnizzzle (652228) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323474)

Wouldn't it be even harder to get a person's identity from their email address then from just their IP? Now the RIAA would have to contact Yahoo, get all the IPs that were logged with that email address, and then contact all of the connected ISPs. Or is this really just an attempt to spam file sharers?

And in other news... (1)

Iphtashu Fitz (263795) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323484)

Hotmail, Yahoo, Gmail, and other web providers announced a huge increase in the number of subscribers in California.

Text of the bill (5, Informative)

the_demiurge (26115) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323486)

You can read the text of the filesharing bill (now law) at http://info.sen.ca.gov/pub/bill/sen/sb_1501-1550/s b_1506_bill_20040823_enrolled.html [ca.gov]

Re:Text of the bill (1)

hey (83763) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323613)

from the bill:

(5) "E-mail address" means a valid e-mail address, or the valid e-mail address of the holder of the account from which the dissemination took place.

So I assume this means you main e-mail address not a bogus one you never use. I know, how can they prove it.

Video games (1)

lukewarmfusion (726141) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323488)

Let parents make the decision about what games their children play.

That's why I think this bill is a good idea. If you let kids walk in and buy the most violent games, their parents may not know what's going on. Those are the parents that make me sick. If you make the parents buy it for their kids, then they're forced to take responsibility for it. We already have too many idiots claiming that video games are making their children violent; instead of parents taking responsibility, they blame the games. This just makes sure that they're involved.

Re:Video games (1)

gl4ss (559668) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323524)

..but wasn't this illeagal before then?

for a kid to buy, lets say, a porno videogame?

me@privacy.net through me9@privacy.net (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10323489)

me@privacy.net through me9@privacy.net

I'll be back? Hopefully he never will be reelected again.

politics corrupts everybody as you can clearly see. arnold even did soft-core-porn movies back in his young days, and now he is corrupted by money, power and greedieness.

Define "Sharing Files" (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10323495)

I only share packets.

free email (1)

wikinerd (809585) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323502)

Now free/anonymous email services will become much more popular, and perhaps more people will start registering private domains for custom email. Or, most probably, nothing will change and nobody will pay attention to this law. Next story, please?

Step 1) get a gmail account (1)

Ayanami Rei (621112) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323506)

Step 2) laugh and don't use it anyway
Step 3) don't be an ass pirate, leave bittorrent running.
^_^

What about my own music or video? (5, Insightful)

dmeranda (120061) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323507)

This seems like it's making the same old assumptions. That *if* it's music or video, then the copyright *must* be owned by RIAA/MPAA. This is all about control, not copyrights.

If I own the copyright (say because I produced it), or I have the permission of the copyright owner (which may be, gasp, somebody besides the **AA); then WHY in the world can't I do with it what I want? I certainly can give somebody a copy of a book in secrety; or even leave a copy of a newspaper on my chair when I'm done reading it (which is anonymous distribution).

Oh, and what about PUBLIC DOMAIN media files?

See, this whole thing still seems to be the big media industries trying to shut out independent artisits and producers of content. The whole piracy thing is just a smokescreen; the excuse. What they really want is to make it illegal or impossible for anybody besides them to "traffic" in media.

Disseminating videos and music? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10323508)

So what if I'm distributing something that I own the copyright to, but I don't want my identity tied to it? Should I not have that right?

How long do you think it'll take before they try to extend this law to any writing or 'creative' work whatsoever?

Get it right please (1)

mfh (56) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323511)

FTA: Governor and video game star Arnold Schwarzenegger has signed a measure aimed at curbing sales of violent video games to children.

Slashdot: Also he signed a bill to limit the sale of video games.

There seems to be a huge difference between these statements. Can you spot it?

Re:Get it right please (1)

fireduck (197000) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323588)

it's not even that. The 1 sentence blurb should read "Governor signed bill forcing stores to explain ESRB rating".

Re:Get it right please (1)

mfh (56) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323626)

it's not even that. The 1 sentence blurb should read "Governor signed bill forcing stores to explain ESRB rating".

Exactly.

fuck.you.asshole@hotmail.com (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10323512)

[nt]

+5, Ahnold reference (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10323564)

n/t

Slashdot blows things out of proportion again. (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10323513)

To quote Timothy of Slashdot, "Also he signed a bill to limit the sale of video games."

To quote the linked article, "AB 1793, by Assemblyman Leland Yee, D-San Francisco, requires stores to post signs and offer brochures about the industry's game-rating system."

No problem! (5, Funny)

Just Some Guy (3352) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323518)

My email address? A real one, even? No problem! Get'cher red hot MP3s from your friendly local root@localhost! I might even reply to emails sent to that address, for a particularly appropriately-scoped definition of "localhost".

Stop whistleblowing. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10323525)

This is a bill against whistle-blowing.

Do you think that it is good to identify yourself when posting video of Scientology-like freakazoids harassing lawful protestors?

Maybe someone has got some good footage of the Terminator groping and the lawyers want to shut him or her up?

said the pirate to the governator of califoynia: (2, Funny)

circletimessquare (444983) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323530)

"i'll be back"

What is the point of this, really? (2, Insightful)

ShatteredDream (636520) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323531)

If you are sharing content illegally, ie breaking federal copyright laws, then why the hell would be inclined to make it even easier? This is functionally identical to gun registration. How many criminals actually register their guns? If they can't get one off the street, they just get them by stealing from law abiding citizens.

I can appreciate trying to cut back on massive copyright infringement, but this.... this is just bullshit. Whoever at the MPAA/RIAA paid for this should be fired for wasting their employers' money. No one who is breaking the law and "causing them to lose money" is going to follow this law. Well maybe some, the kind that would have probably been caught anyway.

If it be true that California leads the way for our country, then Arnold has ushered in a new wave of stupidity into American politics. Doesn't he have better things to do, that not coincidentally would help these lobby groups' retainers more, like cut down the overall size of the CA state government, streamline its laws, eliminate red tape, cut taxes, cut expenditures and find innovative ways to save money?

Here's a novel idea for the RIAA/MPAA/BSA: instead of wasting your money on bullshit like this, lobby for tax and spending cuts. Get rid of the income tax, when the people aren't taxed at 20-50%, they have discressionary income out their asses and that's when people buy your products.

In other words, stop subsidizing the Republicrats and send the check to Reason and the Libertarian Party.

bill to limit the sale of video games (1)

kenp2002 (545495) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323539)

Wow too bad that isn't what the article says, only requires store to post about ratings and offer borchures. What's the problem? Sounds like the only ones bitchin are kids that don't want mom and dad to know that that Postal 2 games isn't about delivering mail....... How is that limiting the sale of videogames? I wasn't aware that borchures LIMIT sales? How is this limiting? To be intellectually honest this should have read at least: ..bill to limit the sale of violent video games...

Speaking of mail btw it's mail, not mails. You don't go to you mail box and get your mails. So why do people insist on saying EMAILS. EMAILS IS NOT A WORD ;) Think about it Electronic Mails? It makes no sense! If Emails makes it into a dictionary I'm switching from english to esperanto.

Bye :)

Stupid law (4, Insightful)

Capt'n Hector (650760) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323544)

Anything I make (or anything anyone else makes) is automatically copyrighted by the person or organization that made it. Does this mean I can't post to /. without showing my email, because that would be sharing copyrighted media? Is the only legal anonymous transfer one that only is composed of public domain works? Ug... good thing this isn't anywhere near enforcable.

What Next... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10323554)

What next? The lawmakers will require users to have an IP address to share files on the internet.

So??? (5, Interesting)

El (94934) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323560)

So now to distribute movies, you simply have to create a hotmail account, even though you never have to actually log in and check your mail? Just wait 30 days, Microsoft automatically deletes any Cease and Desist letters, and you're home free! I'm not quite clear on what this law accomplishes...

Actually, try to read the LAW and not the blurb (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10323566)

To quote:

  • Any person, except a minor, who is located in
    California, who, knowing that a particular recording or audiovisual
    work is commercial
    , knowingly electronically disseminates all or
    substantially all
    of that commercial recording or audiovisual work to
    more than 10 other people without disclosing his or her e-mail
    address, and the title of the recording or audiovisual work
    is
    punishable by a fine not exceeding two thousand five hundred dollars
    ($2,500), imprisonment in a county jail for a period not exceeding
    one year, or by both that fine and imprisonment.

Basically, it has to be commercial. And I'm sure the law could not be applied if the work was being distributed with permission.

Hell, even I was worried, until I actually read the law itself. But now I'm not so worried. Plus, if you can keep your torrents to less than 10 people, this doesn't apply anyway =P

That probably won't hold up in court (1)

i)ave (716746) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323568)

Upon challenge, they'll have to show a demonstratable threat to the "common good" (citizenry, not studios) that is caused by anonymous emails used for P2P software registration. That is a big, if inedffective, attempt to reduce the rights of people to privacy and a court will want them to show that (1) anonymous email registration causes more harm than good for citizens of California (2) legit email registration will not cause more harm than good (email harvesting spam-bots come to mind).

Lots of questions (5, Insightful)

LS (57954) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323575)

* Who is the email provided to?
* How is the email to be provided?
* Is this only for legal files haring? (I would assume so)
* How are email addresses verified?
* If the file sharing app has to provide a way to advertise an email, does this make app incapable of this illegal?
* Are FTP and websites affected by this law?
* What if I don't have an email address?
* What if my address is with Yahoo? Will my information be required to be given to lawyers by Yahoo or whomever my ISP is?
* How did this law get passed?

LS

Questions. (2, Informative)

YouHaveSnail (202852) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323578)

That's nice, but it leaves a lot of unanswered questions.

Which of my several e-mail addresses must I disclose?

And for how long after the file transfer takes place must the address remain valid?

How often, if ever, am I required to check for messages?

And does the state impose any particular requirements on what kinds of filters I can apply to my incoming mail?

If I record a protest song and choose to distribute it anonymously (perhaps to avoid retribution by the state), am I prohibited from doing that?

Can I write a letter or produce a film and distribute it anonymously? How about if I use a pseudonym?

I'd like to actually read this law. I find it difficult to imagine that such a law could possibly stand up to any sort of scrutiny in the courts.

Which one? (1)

Jaywalk (94910) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323582)

I have half a dozen email addresses. Some can be traced to me, some can't. So all I need to do to "comply" with this silly law is to get a Hotmail address (or, better yet, any foreign web-based email address) and paste it on the site. I don't see anything in the article that says the email address needs to be easily tracked.

Another clueless law from the clueless pols.

Have they considered the implications of spam? (3, Interesting)

AlphaWolf_HK (692722) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323584)

If everybody on peer to peer networks was required to give out their real email address freely, the spammers would be able to go to town with e-mail lists that they would *know* to be real.

A letter to Arnold [ or Ahnold] (1)

microsopht (811294) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323592)

Arnold Schwarzenegger signed legislation Tuesday aimed at discouraging online piracy by requiring anyone disseminating movies or music on the Internet to disclose their e-mail address.

Dear Arnold, We slashdotters ask that you do some real geeky/interesting thing instead of asking for email addresses.Its so lame.That way slashdotters could have some solid topic to comment about.
Peace.

P.S:TIII was also not techy.It was boring.

Who is you Scientific Advisor BTW?

Favorite Cal Slogan (0, Offtopic)

Dan667 (564390) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323602)

California, the land of the Fruits and Nuts ...

What if you don't have an email address? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10323607)

Sure, it may be popular, but it's not like needing a driver's license to drive a car. Email, popular as it may be, is just a service on the internet, which you may or may not use. Not everyone has an email address.

Here's some Arnold media for you... (1)

dameron (307970) | more than 9 years ago | (#10323608)


From DailyHaiuk.com [dailyhaiku.com] .

I wonder if this is going to apply to public domain stuff? He's got some video at his website:

Here [ca.gov] and here [ca.gov] .

This stuff should be public domain by CA law. Also, if I don't give you my email, are those href's up there considered "disseminating"?

-dameron

effect of further criminalizing copyright law (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10323623)

The real effect is to continue down the road of criminalizing the civil tort of copyright infringement, without actually changing *federal* copyright law.

Text of SB1506 (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10323625)

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