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Do You Go Out to the Movies or Wait for the DVD?

Cliff posted more than 9 years ago | from the discuss-your-spending-habits dept.

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SpecialAgentXXX asks "After I see a movie, I usually end up buying the DVD to see the deleted and behind-the-scenes bonus material. So I not only pay for $20 the DVD, but also $24 for a pair of tickets, $8 for parking, and $12 for popcorn & drinks. But now that I have a home theater system, I've mostly stopped going to the movies and just wait half a year for the DVD. The only exception is watching a movie in DLP or the IMAX Experience like Harry Potter since those are better qualities than a DVD. Are more people doing this? The cost of going to the movies is now more than double that of a DVD!"

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154 comments

I can't (2, Funny)

LennyDotCom (26658) | more than 9 years ago | (#10371595)

I can't afford going to the movies or to buy a DVD
You insensitive clod!

Or, for that matter... (1)

leonbrooks (8043) | more than 9 years ago | (#10371824)

...buy a home theatre, the amortised cost of which the delerious^Wmysterious SpecialAgentXXX evidently hasn't factored in.

Re:I can't (2, Interesting)

svanstrom (734343) | more than 9 years ago | (#10372089)

"I can't afford going to the movies or to buy a DVD "

That's why (the g|G)ods* invented P2P. ;-)

I'm clearly above average when it comes to going to the movies, but hardly ever buy any DVDs; most DVDs that I do buy are usually of the "hey, I loved that movie XX number of years ago"-kind, which means that they are 10+ years old, and usually quite cheap.

P2P... that evil thing which forces moviestars to either go broke or become politicians... well... here it happens to be legal to download[A] movies etc; and what I download is either:

1. New movies which I'm really interested in, but which won't be shown at the movies here for several months after the release in the US.

2. TVseries; every now and then an episode of something that I missed, but mostly tvseries on channels which aren't easily[B] available to me; and that no channel I've got and/or could get access to has shown any interest in.

Getting back to the whole DVD vs going to the movies-quality question... If "they" don't want to let me buy access to good quality I'm more than happy that I can get free less than perfect copies of the Net.
If I feel that the movie I downloaded is worth it (basically if there are lots of good CGI), then I go to the movies and see it again; it's not like I remember the whole thing months later anyways, and going to the movies with some friends is a lot more fun than just sitting at home infront of the tele.

[A] not legal to set ut a server and share though.
[B] I could of course build some kind of PVR, ship it to a friend in what ever country (ie the US) etc...

TV (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10371597)

I wait for it to be broadcast, I'm not in a hurry..

Thinking of switching... (5, Insightful)

Tomahawk (1343) | more than 9 years ago | (#10371612)

I used to enjoy going to the cinema to see a movie, and certainly some of the really require a look in at the cinema - big screen, and all that.

However, I do find that other people in the cinema are annoying. Generally there are:

- people talking;
- people eating stuff from noisy bags;
- people slurping the last few drops of their drink;
- kids kicking the back of the seat;
- any number of other annoyances.

It's getting more and more difficult to actually enjoy watching a film in a cinema these days. With the advent of high-quality DVDs and home theatre systems, I'm moving more and more towards waiting for the film to come out on DVD and watching it, in peace, at home.

Here, a trip to the movies is a little cheaper that in the US. And DVDs are more expensive. But I think it's worth the extra money and waiting a big of time.

Granted, some films have to be seen in the cinema. I'll be there the 'Return of the Sith'. Sorry, but even if it's a terrible film, I will have to see it.

T.

Re:Thinking of switching... (5, Insightful)

sgant (178166) | more than 9 years ago | (#10371827)

I don't find this at all in theaters...in fact, it's the opposite for me.

Watching at the theater, the movie has your undivided attention. At HOME is where the movie experience falls short.

I don't have a ton of money, so of course I don't have a home theater so I have to watch everything on a 27" TV...

But watching a movie at home you have:

-people talking openly: wife asking who is that, what happened there, did you hear what happened to so and so down the street...it's even worse when her family is over here to "watch a movie" which includes everything other than actually "watching the movie".

-kids running in and out of the room with various things/problems

-The ability to pause and go to the bathroom...now many people think this is an advantage, but it breaks up the movie experience and cuts into the flow of the story etc etc.

-Phone calls in the middle of the movie.

At a theater I get none of these things. Yes, there are other people there, but when the movie starts, we get so absorbed into the movie that I don't notice the guy slurping his drink, or really anyone talking. Has it happened in the past? Oh sure, you hear a cell phone go off or one or two people whispering/talking a little, but STILL it's not as distracting as all the things I mentioned above when watching a good movie.

I also don't have a short attention span, so I'm not easily distracted by minute and harmless things.

Re:Thinking of switching... (2, Funny)

WhatAmIDoingHere (742870) | more than 9 years ago | (#10371968)

What I love doing, when there are children over at my house and I'm trying to watch a movie, is yelling at the little bastards to take their horseplay outside.

Yes, I am that guy. I will happily sit on my porch waving my fist at passing children and yelling nonsensical things for the rest of my life.

Re:Thinking of switching... (1)

bay43270 (267213) | more than 9 years ago | (#10373171)

You and the grandparent make some good points. It seems there are just two groups of people with distinct needs. The industry favors the movie growing crowd at the moment out of tradition, but I think that will be changing in the near future. More movies (especially bad ones) are being released early on DVD. If the studios wait too long, the audience forgets about the movie and it seems like old news when finally released on DVD.

I fall into the home theater crowd. I update my netflix queue as I hear about movies, and sometimes don't get to see them for over a year (6 months to get to video and another 6 to make it through my queue). It seems like there are more and more who enjoy their home theaters, but I doubt there are as many who would wait a year to see a particular movie. As the studios realize they are not taking good advantage of this new market, they will adjust.

RIP movie going experience (1)

Crayon Kid (700279) | more than 9 years ago | (#10371886)

- people talking; - people eating stuff from noisy bags; - people slurping the last few drops of their drink; - kids kicking the back of the seat; - any number of other annoyances.

Also add: people moving around; couples making out; the odd idiot (or bunch of) who laughs in a high-pitched maniacal laugh in all the wrong places; cellphones ringing and people picking up and talking at leisure; the smartass who comments out loud and thinks he's witty; the guy in the next seat who has to explain *everything* to his numbskull girlfriend; the bitch you took out to the movies who gets bored stiff halfway through and wants to leave... oh just the hell with it.

Obviously, not all of this happens at once. Otherwise you'd see me on the news as "crazed man runs amok in cinema, slaughters dozens barehanded".

But the point is that the entire movie experience has gone down the toilet. Nowadays it's just a cheap (as in no quality) way of losing some time before getting layed just so you can say "we went out".

As a more or less movie buff, I miss the real thing. I miss the respect people used to have about going out to the movies, where they would dress and act nicely. I miss being able to let myself be swept by the magic of a good movie and only come to at the end, hands clenched and at the edge of my seat. I miss having the entire room gasp and breath and laugh and applaud like one, with me.

No doubt, it's also the fault of the kind of movies we have out today. Damn I wish I lived in the 60's.

What's there left to do? Theater seems to retain some of that, too bad I don't like theater (pretentious, pompous, overacted, snobs). Small cinemas catering to buffs like myself are good, but they are very hard to find and the odd asshole can still appear.

So you get your good movies on any kind of media that's popular (VHS, DVD, DIVX) and watch them in the privacy of your own home, with friends and family. Screw all the insensitive assholes out there and the movie industry of today, thank you very much.

And all the above.... (1)

jotaeleemeese (303437) | more than 9 years ago | (#10372093)

... never ever happened before....

Re:Thinking of switching... (1)

pipingguy (566974) | more than 9 years ago | (#10372644)

...certainly some of the really require a look...

Did you forget some, like, words in there somewhere?

Re:Thinking of switching... (1)

Tomahawk (1343) | more than 9 years ago | (#10372813)

No, just the letter 'm':

certainly some of them...

Just a typo - everyone makes them.

T.

Re:Thinking of switching... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10373021)

You need to learn to go on weeknights. Wednesday night is the best. Most cinemas are empty. Even during an opening week.

I stay home and wait (3, Insightful)

agent dero (680753) | more than 9 years ago | (#10371617)

By waiting, most people will either say it's good or bad.

Also there's been a loss in the "movie-going experience"

I mean, commercials in the intro, those stupid "No Smoking" jingles, at home, I can just watch the movie

Re:I stay home and wait (2, Insightful)

xylon (552609) | more than 9 years ago | (#10371787)

Except for the stupid Matrix sequal DVDs, which had you watching the unbelievably bad WB Movieworld commercial until you thought 'what the hell is this?', and scrambled for the remote. I mean seriously, it comes up when you hit 'Play Movie'!!

"No Smoking" jingles (2, Interesting)

dpilot (134227) | more than 9 years ago | (#10372470)

For a while, the Cheap Seats theater in Burlington, VT had the *best* "courtesy leader" I've ever seen.

"The blondes... FAKE!!!"
"The (this)... FAKE!!!"
"The (that)... FAKE!!!"

Then they had a short, done with Barbie and Ken dolls about theater courtesy. The Barbie that was talking on her cell phone, disturbing other patrons, got a pair of jumper cables attached to her and shocked. (with special effects!!) The doll eating and throwing popcorn was sucked up into a shop-vac, etc.

At the end, they're all lounging together in a hot-tub, except it's a super-size soda.

I wish we could have more like this, instead of the thumpa-thumpa music and flying candy.

Hairy what? (1)

0x54524F4C4C (712971) | more than 9 years ago | (#10371628)



The only exception is watching a movie in DLP or the IMAX Experience like Harry Potter

Harry Potter? Please leave us alone, we're trying to do serious businesses here.

sometimes (2)

katanan (764663) | more than 9 years ago | (#10371630)

if it's something i haven't been looking forward to but was recommended by friends or such i will tend to wait for the DVD release. but if i've been really excited for something (like Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind or Garden State) then i will make the effort to go and see it.

i will tend to also go and see films that do not see a wide release (and subsequently a smaller distribution for the DVD release) in theatres - foreign films fit well into this catagory but films like Barbarian Invasions and Station Agent qualify as well. i just had a chance to see Izo (the new Takashi Miike film) at the Vancouver Film Festival and as far as i know it was oner of the first screenings outside of Japan and wouldn't be available on DVD in North America for another 6-10 months or so.

only in some instances have i bought a DVD without seeing the film before though, most of the time we'll go on cheap night to the rental place around the corner and grab some interesting ones i've missed in theatres and then if i really enjoy it then i will make the purchase (but i'm very picky on what makes it into my DVD collection).

Depends a lot (3, Insightful)

Jesrad (716567) | more than 9 years ago | (#10371646)

... on how much DVDs cost where you live ! Here they are about 5 or 6 times the price of a ticket (30 euros compared to 5 or 6 euros at most cinemas). Can you say overpriced ? That's why my collection of DVDs can be counted on a single-digit.

I still go to the movies, especially since they built that huge multiplex to replace the two smaller cinemas. The main difference is that I'm more demanding of the whole experience : I generally pick a morning session during work days of the second or third week after release, so that there are about 4 or 5 other spectators besides me in the room.

Another advantage of reduced audience, in addition to the total silence during the movie, is that you can just go to the other spectators and discuss the movie with them afterwards.

Re:Depends a lot (2, Informative)

katanan (764663) | more than 9 years ago | (#10371667)

yeah whenever i go to the theatre nowadays on weekends i generally prefer the matinees because of the smaller audience. less chance of annoying people sitting by you as well.

the DVD issue is relevant, up here in Canada we have relatively cheap DVDs (tickets are from $8-13 and a DVD generally costs about $20-26 and about $50-60 for the high end ones like Criterion) so i often do prefer to own my favourites on DVD and also to rent new releases that I don't think i would want to own (rentals run about $3-5)

** all prices above are in CAD

Re:Depends a lot (1)

mccoy1701 (575546) | more than 9 years ago | (#10371725)

While I know that going to the movies is ungodly expensive some places, it's only $6 for a ticket to a regular showing where I am (student price, normal is $7.50), but that doesn't factor in the price of pop and popcorn, which are ungodly expensive. Many times I'll go to the movies after I've eaten dinner and just buy a pop, ending up with a total cost of about $10 per showing.

Re:Depends a lot (1)

Atrahasis (556602) | more than 9 years ago | (#10372036)

Are you saying that you can't sit for 2 hours without eating and/or drinking?

I frequently (twice a week) go to the cinema, thanks to the great offer [ugccinemas.co.uk] by UGC Cinemas [ugccinemas.co.uk] in the UK, where you can pay a tenner a month and watch an unlimited (and that's really unlimited, not ISP-speak unlimited) number of showings. I don't think I've bought ANYTHING in the cinema in the last 6 months. I'm quite content to sit and watch a film without food or drink.

Re:Depends a lot (1)

Reducer2001 (197985) | more than 9 years ago | (#10372077)

What I usually do is buy my drink and candy bar at a nearby gas station BEFORE going to the theatre. $2.50 total for drink and a snack. You can't even get a small soda for that in the theatre.

Re:Depends a lot (1)

vasqzr (619165) | more than 9 years ago | (#10372153)


Plus, if you stop at a party store first, or bring your own beverages from home, you can enjoy an ice cold beer of your choice.

Re:Depends a lot (1)

Twylite (234238) | more than 9 years ago | (#10372103)

So I not only pay for $20 the DVD, but also $24 for a pair of tickets, $8 for parking, and $12 for popcorn & drinks.

Okay, these prices are sortof freaking me out. I pay R33 (South African Rands) for an evening movie, that's around $5. With various club memberships that comes down to R15 / $2.50 for a second ticket, so $7 - $10 for a pair of tickets. A popcorn and coke (500ml - 750ml) will be around $3, and parking just $1.

A new DVD release on the other hand is between R250 and R320, averaging out at around R280 (that $43). Even with most loyalty discounts you can't get close to $20.

Another factor is the price of suitable home theatre systems. Anything in the 100cm / 39in range that has good picture quality (two aspects I consider crucial to the home theatre experience) starts above R8000 ($1250), and a 43" plasma display will come in over $3700.

The way I see it, R8000 is 160 movies, which covers me for about 4 years (one movie a week, seldom more, occasionally less). Assuming I rent (not buy) the movies at R20 when they come out, it will take over 6 years to see the home theatre come out cheaper, given that I have no other justification for a big screen TV ; and that's not factoring in the time value of money.

I think the picture in the US is a bit different ... but I honestly can't see the benefit in a home theatre.

Those prices suck... (3, Interesting)

Pii (1955) | more than 9 years ago | (#10372929)

I'm not a fan of Walmart, but I go weekly to pick up whatever new DVD release I'm looking for. If you buy the DVD in its first week in stores, they can be had on sale for like $15.

I've got a family of 4... To go to the theater with all of them means I'm out $30 just in the cost of tickets, and I'm restricted to family fare (My kids are 10 and 3). If I wanted to feed this bunch while there, it'd be easily another $20 - $30 (Just for some crappy snacks and drinks).

Like many of the other posters, I simply can't stand what the moviegoing experience has become. I don't like the crowds, and like the man once said: "In any sufficiently large group of people, most of them will be idiots." No place is this more evident than at a theater.

Home theater is where it's at.

Re:Depends a lot (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10372119)

That's why my collection of DVDs can be counted on a single-digit.

Is that digit 7?

Re:Depends a lot (1)

bhima (46039) | more than 9 years ago | (#10372369)

Wow, DVDs are expensive where you live!

I pay 6 Euros for the regular cinema, 7,50 for the English cinema, and DVD are 19 when they first come out and frequently I buy the bargain ones a 7~10 Euros. Still I rent more than I go to the cinema and buy when the director or actors are people I like or if the film was originally in some language not German or English.

Sometimes I have trouble following the German dubbed films and typically at the rental place down the street "foreign" language films have the original language & German.

I have spent upwards of 25 on cult classics like Le Grand bleu.

beer (2, Interesting)

hitchhacker (122525) | more than 9 years ago | (#10371660)


Aside from the Alamo Draft House, movie theatres around here don't serve beer.
At home you can have cheap beer... and pause the show for the ensuing bathroom breaks.

that, and it's just plain weird going to the theatre on my own.

-metric

Re:beer (1)

kwoff (516741) | more than 9 years ago | (#10372805)

that, and it's just plain weird going to the theatre on my own.
Really? I go all the time by myself.

Re:beer (1)

kenl999 (166189) | more than 9 years ago | (#10373446)

We have a few of these in Portland (Oregon) like the Laurelhurst and the various McMenamin's. They show second-run movies, but they have beer and stuff to eat.

Definitely makes waiting for the movie worthwile.

Depends on if I get a chance, really (2)

iainl (136759) | more than 9 years ago | (#10371670)

I still love going to the Cinema - no matter how much I upgrade my home system its still not the same. Sure, you can be unlucky and get idiot talkers occasionally, but bad framing (my number one old complaint) has been almost completely eradicated since the studios' piracy worries have led to staff actually being present in the booth again.

However, I've just recently become a Dad, and getting the opportunity to go out to the pictures is a rare and precious thing reserved for something really exciting. Even before then, there are so many films coming out I don't have time to see them, so I do a lot of catching up on DVD.

Do you have a girlfriend? (1)

eggstasy (458692) | more than 9 years ago | (#10371671)

Ok, sorry I forgot this was slashdot :)
Personally I like going to the movies. I dont have a home theater system, but surely you cant compare it to the big screen. Around here we have theaters banning food and drink in certain rooms. So all you have to do is wait a couple of weeks for a movie to be shown in the special no-eating room.
Some cult movies are best appreciated in the theaters. Watching Star Wars with a crowd of other fans gives you a feeling of community. I remember when Episode 2 premiered and everyone went crazy when they saw Yoda fighting like that. And then at the end everyone stood up and clapped like a maniac :)
I used to be a renter, but my gf insists on going to the movies. I dont think it's worth buying a DVD though. I dont have a lot of time to kill and I'm not the sort of person that watches a movie more than once. It's a matter of personal preference, I suppose.

or wait for the dvd rip? (1)

eyeye (653962) | more than 9 years ago | (#10371672)

There must be a few of you.

Cinemas suck, morons cant sit and watch anything quietly. Its worse if they are kids or the kind of idiots who think taking a really young child (i.e of wailing age) to the cinema is a good idea.

Travel (3, Interesting)

TVC15 (518429) | more than 9 years ago | (#10371673)

Movies are way too valuable a way to kill time during business travel to waste seeing in a movie theatre. Airports, planes, trains, and ferries are full of people watching DVDs on their laptops or personal DVD players to fill all that 'wasted time'.

Re:Travel (1)

Cthefuture (665326) | more than 9 years ago | (#10372536)

I do that with TV shows. With a movie I kinda want to pay attention when I'm watching it. I find that hard to do when traveling (I hate traveling). So I watch TV shows that my MythTV machine recorded. I don't generally watch TV but there are some shows I like (History channel). They are unimportant enough to me that they are perfect when traveling. That way I don't waste time watching them at home when I should be doing something else.

It's missing (3, Insightful)

SimianOverlord (727643) | more than 9 years ago | (#10371696)

Your cost estimate is missing the amount you presumably shelled out to build that state of the art home cinema experience. How much "savings" from cheaper DVDs are you really making when you add that in? Or, in other words, how many DVDs would you have to buy instead of cinema tickets to make up for the value of your huge TV / surround sound? My pulled-out-my-ass guess is >1000 at least.

Of course I realise its nice to have a big TV and sound system for other reasons, but really...

Re:It's missing (1)

roady (30728) | more than 9 years ago | (#10371851)

I could probably go to the movies every week for 20 years for the price of my Home Theater, not counting price of the DVDs.

Re:It's missing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10372981)

My costs

Projector: 1000
Receiver: 350
Speakers: 1000
Subwoofer: 500
Screen: 50 (DIY rules)
HTPC: 300
Various: 250

Total: 3450
Not having to listen to idiots in the middle of my movie: PRICELESS!

At $25 (tickets and drink) bucks a pop for me and my girl to go to the movies thats 138 movies or 1 a week for 2.65 years.

Re:It's missing (1)

ratboy666 (104074) | more than 9 years ago | (#10373004)

Cost breakdown:

Movie: 13 CDN per ticket.
26 for my wife and I.
20 CDN for popcorn/drinks (the theatre doesn't allow food to be brought in).
3 hours baby sitter - 20 - 25 CDN.

Total for a movie session: 70 CDN.

42" projection TV: 1300 CDN
surround sound: 250 CDN.
Total 1550. DVD rental: 5 dollars. We save 60 - 65 on NOT going to the theatre.

Payback time: ~30 movie trips, which means between 1 and 2 years.

If we BUY the DVDs: saving is 40 for not going. Payback is ~40 movie trips, or 2-3 years.

Given that we intend to hold onto the TV and sound system for 10 years, its a good deal.

Ratboy.

Neither (4, Funny)

DrSkwid (118965) | more than 9 years ago | (#10371700)

I watch it on region free DVD before it comes to the cinema

Re:Neither (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10372481)

Who the heck modded this "Insightful"??? May the moderation system relieve you of your points and slap you across the face! Not only is this not insightful (funny if anything), but it is referring to the piracy that while not a real problem economically to the studios, is whats making our DVD / CD / etc. formats so mutilated and bass-ackwards that we can't watch anything without some kind of copy protection scheme.

(ok, I'm done ranting now.. thanks!)

Re:Neither (2, Insightful)

Skyfire (43587) | more than 9 years ago | (#10372720)

Actually, while I'm not the parent poster, and I don't really know if he is actually talking about pirating the movies, he may in fact be talking about buying imported dvds of movies that have already been released in other countries. (assuming he lives in the United States) For example, two recent movies (Hero and Shaun of the Dead) were both already available on dvd in other countries before they were released in theaters in the US. This also seems like it might be becoming more prevalant as US audiences let go of their prejudices against foreign movies, and Hollywood starts importing more of them.

of course i wait !! (1)

BigBadDude (683684) | more than 9 years ago | (#10371731)

... until the DVD files are available on DC++.

but that usually happens before the movies come out. so no, i dont wait. i stay home AND see the movie :)

What if you could pick your crowd...? (1)

ivi (126837) | more than 9 years ago | (#10371751)


If you could choose the kind of people
you say the movie with, & maybe had a
chance to discuss / debate the flick -
afterwards... that might justify pay-
ing $ at the cinema...

- a bit like a classical music concert

I mean... who says we all have to stay
just while the film's running... let's
build little communities around films,
at least for the newly rising doco's
that may (hopefully) be changing how
people think about war, etc.

My 2.2 cents (includes 10% Aussie GST)

I just wank at home (1)

el_gibler (807201) | more than 9 years ago | (#10371773)

...you end up in the local paper in the Courts news section if you enjoy some sex scences too much at the local cinema.

YMMV (2, Informative)

david_420 (589817) | more than 9 years ago | (#10371778)

It depends on your situation, I guess. I happen to be single (like a lot of folks here, I gather) and live in a smaller city. Going to see a movie is usually a cost of $5-7 for me.

I don't go to movies anymore (2, Interesting)

roady (30728) | more than 9 years ago | (#10371834)

Because I have a nice home theater, and because the quality is even better than many of the cheap theaters near my place.

I am also happy not to have to deal with kids talking during the movies. However, I kinda miss the "social experience" of going to the movies.

Re:I don't go to movies anymore (1)

roady (30728) | more than 9 years ago | (#10371859)

And I forgot to say that most movie theaters were I live only play dubbed movies. Not many play original versions. So DVD is the only way to have an enjoyable experience.

Depends (1)

tsa (15680) | more than 9 years ago | (#10371860)

It's fun to go to the movies with some friends. Besides, some movies you just have to see in the cinema because the screen is so much bigger there.

Does your DVD come with popcorn and a car? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10371873)

last I checked (being right now) a $30 DVD costs six times as much as going to a $5 movie. If you're going to include popcorn, parking, and going at 8:30 on opening night, it's only fair to include the cost of your home theater to every DVD you buy.

Missing option: Refuse because of the trailers. (1)

3-State Bit (225583) | more than 9 years ago | (#10371901)

I despise trailers with all my heart, and if it weren't for the social inconvenience, I never again would watch a new release in a theatre, ever, no matter what, just because I want nothing to have to do with the awful trailers Hollywood shoves down my throat these days. Don't get me wrong -- a trailer is a WONDERFUL one-, two-, or three-minute reduction of a film I otherwise couldn't so much as sit through. But as for films in which I have an actual interest...

Every film that's part of my intellectual furniture right now, that I adored absolutely, that moved me or changed my world outlook or even which just was wildly entertaining, would have been completely ruined for me if I had seen a "modern version" of its trailer first. (You know exactly what I mean. Not just merely the "spoiling" of some plot points, yeah, okay, I know that the Titanic will sink, or that Jesus will be crucified, to use two popular examples, but the very taking away of all that gives a film heart and pulse.)

The exception, of course, is in 1) the rare cases where there is enough artistic pull that a film can be "presented" without being "Readers' Digested" -- VERY VERY rare today -- and 2) the cases, as I just mentioned, in which I don't mind watching a three minute reader's digest of a film that I have NO intention of seeing. [Usually even the worst of films have enough high spots to put together an interesting digest from. (Especially with all the money on CGI, etc.)]

Basically, my idea of a good introduction to a movie is a title, maybe a genre -- so I can select movies to watch based on how I would like to feel -- and "see this."

Every good movie ever made is accessible from a very wide variety of intellectual approaches; if you're not STUPID, you don't need to watch what amounts to a point-by-point synopsis of a film in order to be prepped for its watching.

You cannot tell me that nothing is taken away.

By the way: SOYLENT GREEN IS
a good movie.

Re:Missing option: Refuse because of the trailers. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10371972)

so grab a netflix account and fill yer' queue with titles [ravecentral.com] and titles [ravecentral.com] and titles [imdb.com] and titles [classicscifi.com] and titles [filmsite.org] . Or find some sources of your own (friends, critics' lists). If no one mentions a film, it probably isn't worth watching.

Blah,blah,blah, woof,woof,woof!!! (1)

jotaeleemeese (303437) | more than 9 years ago | (#10372113)

Get to the cinema 10 or 15 minutes after the advertised time.

Duh!

Re:Blah,blah,blah, woof,woof,woof!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10372134)

so which one is it?

Re:Blah,blah,blah, woof,woof,woof!!! (1)

Yer Mom (78107) | more than 9 years ago | (#10373145)

Round here (in the UK) cinemas tend to advertise two times - the time when everything kicks off, and the time when the main feature starts.

Drawback is that you may end up with a really crappy seat, of course.

Given that I live a fair way from a cinema, and that I prefer to watch a film when I want, rather than fit in with someone else's timetable, I tend to go for the DVD at home option anyway.

Re:Missing option: Refuse because of the trailers. (4, Insightful)

numbski (515011) | more than 9 years ago | (#10372538)

I wouldn't mind the trailers, per se, but the last movie I saw was AvP, and it had been a year and a half since the previous time I'd gone into a theater. 3 things stuck out at me:

1. The 'downloading movies is a crime' signs all over the theater. WTF? I just spent $7.50 to get into the movie, and you're preaching at us not to steal. Right.....and this was an afternoon matinee.

2. 22 minutes of trailers. !!!!!!!!!!!!! That is just flat out insane. Without excuse. Commericals commercials and more commercials. There's absolutely no excuse for it.

3. I made the mistake of not eating luch before I went. No big deal, just grab popcorn and a soda. I know it'll hurt, but I haven't been in a while....go up, toss a $5 bill on the counter, and place my order. They bring back the soda and popcorn, then tell me that I'm $3 short.

WHAT. $5 not only won't cover popcorn and a soda anymore, but THE PRICE OF THE TICKET WON'T EITHER. That's right, popcorn and soda now cost more than seeing the movie itself. Of course it's summertime, so I can't get away with wearing my coat [scottevest.com] and bringing in whatever I want...it's just wrong.

The theater is basically a scam to make you a captive audience for commercials and overpriced goods. Sad that's it has degraded so far. :(

Re:Missing option: Refuse because of the trailers. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10372752)

preach it brotha!!

MOD PARENT UP.

It's a social event (1)

spineboy (22918) | more than 9 years ago | (#10371928)

I go to a theater to see movies beacuse it's a social event - you interact with other people in a way. The social experience obviously depends on the theater, and movie that you go to. I generally try to see movies where people tend to be film buffs, for lack of a beter phrase.

People in the audience may get an oblique joke that the writer/director has made, which you might not necessarilly catch, and so on.

I saw American Psycho with a friend at a local 12-plex in a theater where nearly everyone did not have a great familarity with the english language, or that they were poorly educated. For those of you who haven't read the book, it's hillarious, and somewhat gruesome, and the audience only saw the movie as some slasher flick. It was kind of weird being the only 2 people in a nearly full theater, that got the jokes.

Anyway, my point is that going out to see the movies is a social event, people react in ways that you might not, which usually adds to the experience, If you're the type of person whos whole experience is RUINED by someones cell phone ringing once, then don't go if you're that uptight. If you're the type of person who enjoys hearing the pithy comment during some film which unexpectedly turns out to be realy bad, then go out and enjoy - you'll get more out of it then sitting home all alone. I like being in the audince of a 1000 people who go nuts when Yoda jumped around like the Tazmanian Devil, it's just fun.

My Take (2, Interesting)

polyp2000 (444682) | more than 9 years ago | (#10372016)

I go to the movies to see films that are well reviewed or are about material that just doesnt translate well to the smaller screen.

I buy DVD's of memorable films or stuff I collect (eg sci-fi).

I download films that I probably wont get to see or have had mediocre reviews but whose content appeals to me. I make a point of not downloading stuff I just "have" to see at the pictures.

For non-US folks, DVD imports are the way to go... (3, Informative)

rklrkl (554527) | more than 9 years ago | (#10372030)

Of course, if you don't live in the US, you'll find that many US movies can take months and months to air in your country's cinemas. A recent example was the Jennifer Garner vehicle "13 Going On 30" - the Region 1 DVD was actually out a few days before the UK cinema release and also came with a load of deleted scenes and extras (including Jennifer in some lingerie, but let's not dwell on that too long...).

Add to this the free international postage many Region 1 DVD sites have (I used DVD Soon [dvdsoon.com] on this occasion) and it's a total no-brainer - Region 1 DVDs are the way to go for UK folks.

I'd rather wait for the .torrent (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10372046)

It's cheaper than buying the DVD.

No seriously... Local prices for DVDs seem to be totally ludicrous.

It's about $8 for the movie and about $50 for the DVD... it's the choice between buying my weeks worth of food, or a DVD... Hmm...

So with my monthly salary (which is above-average) I practially spend all my available income on DVDs, and yet can only get one or two.

-sigh-

Cinema Experience for me! (1)

samael (12612) | more than 9 years ago | (#10372048)

I don't have a 30-foot screen at home, or massive surround sound speakers.

I wish I did, but until I can afford that I'm going to stick to going to the cinema.

It's You (1)

TheDarkRogue (245521) | more than 9 years ago | (#10372087)

For you, Maybe, I don't know of any theaters in Pittsburgh that I'd have to pay for parking at. If it's really $8, take a bus, it's cheaper (here at least). Secnod, Ticket Prices here are still around $9. I can Imagine that there are places that you would need to pay for parking in, maybe a theater inside a city, but I find it hard to belive $12 tickets, I can get the premium tickets with the leather seats and stuff for $12 at loews. Third, I always have someone with me with a big purse, and we just bring our own low noise food (gallon ziplock of popcorn with REAL Butter, not that fake crap, a few cups, a 2 liter or two of dew). Try a different theater or something (Less You don't have many options).

Or, you could just hook a computer up to that home theater setup you got and steal it.

Re:It's You (1)

vasqzr (619165) | more than 9 years ago | (#10372168)

So I not only pay for $20 the DVD, but also $24 for a pair of tickets, $8 for parking, and $12 for popcorn & drinks.

Here in suburbia, parking is free. Tickets are $8.50 after 6:00pm. A 'medium' popcorn and drink are $4/5.00

Why buy the DVD? They're $1 to rent at Hollywood Video, you get them for 5 days, and it'll end up being shown on some movie channel on cable for the next 20 years. Besides, you can always eye a copy of it at a friends, and then just 'borrow' it.

Dollar Theatre (2, Insightful)

Apreche (239272) | more than 9 years ago | (#10372158)

You can't beat the dollar theatre. During the week at night its a dollar. Weekend nights I think are like 2.50 or 2. I'm not sure. But the best is the 50 cent weekday matinee.

As for annoyances, I don't get too many in the theatres around here, even when its crowded. And when I get them, they don't bother me. I think they actually improve the movie experience somewhat. Sitting with a bunch of strangers is the way movies are meant to be watched, it definitely adds something.

The problem is that there are so few movies worth seeing even in the dollar theatre. I guess I'll see episode 3 for 50 cents. Other than that, I can't think of a movie I'm dying to see. It's pretty sad. All the movies I want to see I can rent at video barn where they have the HK imports and every Kung Fu movie ever.

Re:Dollar Theatre (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10373046)

The dollar theatre in Wichita, Kansas increased their prices last I remember its like 2.00 or some crap.

Huh (1)

moro_666 (414422) | more than 9 years ago | (#10372170)

movies or dvd ?

i usually can't wait so long so i do bittorrent on suprnova or torrentreactor and look for a high quality rip or get it from irc ...

if i could afford it and wouldn't live in a country that thinks 500$ a month is a normal salary , i'd probably go for dvd-s unless i'm chasing a girl.

Parking? (1)

LouCifer (771618) | more than 9 years ago | (#10372189)

You have to pay for parking as well? WTF?

Do you have to have reservations to get into Denny's too?

Where the hell do you live that requires you to pay for parking to go to a freaking movie?

Depends on the "cut" (1)

jbarr (2233) | more than 9 years ago | (#10372211)

I lean toward the DVD, but if it's an "important" movie, (obviously, a subjective decision) I'll probably view both. My biggest complaint is that the Theatrical Cut is often different from the DVD Cut. This has always bugged be since seeing the Theatrical Cut of "Close Encounters of the Third Kind" and "Star Wars" and only being able to get the "Special Editions" on DVD. And with things like the "Politcally Correct Cut" of ET, the Theatrical Cut is often desired because it is often truely unique.

Theaters-Schmeaters (1)

Clanner (24684) | more than 9 years ago | (#10372246)

My wife and I almost never go out to theaters anymore, With tickets running $8 or higher per person, it's cheaper for us to wait and buy the DVD than to go see a film in a theater. Between the DVD clubs and buying used DVD's from a couple local rental shops, we're averaging less than $11 per DVD, and we have quite a few.

While it would nice if we had a larger screen to watch a movie on, our 25" TV works well enough for now, and we have a decent sound system. It's nice to be able to kick back and relax and just watch the movie. We can pause it if we have to (bathroom break, phone call, whatever), we don't pay outrageous prices for food or drink (besides, my hot air popped popcorn is better tasting that theater popcorn!), we don't have to worry about other people in a theater not being quiet or having garbage on the floor, and we get whatever special features that may come on the DVD. Where possible, we buy only the widescreen versions of movies, so we're not losing anything by the movie being "reformatted to fit your tv screen".

The only time we go to a theater anymore is if we have free passes, which I think we've had twice so far this year. We've bought a whole lot more DVD's this year, though....

It all depends (1)

Sandman1971 (516283) | more than 9 years ago | (#10372255)

For my wife and I, it all depends on the movie. Some movies are worth seeing on the big screen (IE: Sky Captain) wheras most can wait til the DVD comes out (IE: Punisher). Up to last year, it was cheaper/same price to buy a DVD (25$ average in Canada) compared to 2 theater tickets (12.50-13.50 depending on the theater). Now most chains (at least in my region) have dropped their prices down to the 9.50$-10$, so without food (never had to pay for parking) it ends up being almost the same price.

One good thing about staying at home is to not have to deal with annoying kids talking throughout the movie, flashing laser pens at the screen, etc.... I can't remember where I read this (maybe an Ebert newspaper column), but a theory as to why kids/young adults talk during movies is that they grew up with watching movies at home, where talking didn't matter. You put them in a theater and they don't know any better. Whereas older adults (30s+) didn't go through that.

er...VHS..:D (0, Troll)

hswerdfe (569925) | more than 9 years ago | (#10372283)

hey wow some of us don't have a DVD player

I personally have a VHS VCR and a 13inch mono TV from 1980.
and I don't have the kind of money required to goto the movies...
you need to get some prospective dude.

Genoside in Darfur
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNew s/1096222386043_58/?hub=World/ [www.ctv.ca]

disparity between the rich and poor
http://www.detnews.com/2002/census/0212/19/a06-583 123.htm/ [detnews.com]

sigh....sorry about that

END RANT

Must suck to live where you do. (1)

mbourgon (186257) | more than 9 years ago | (#10372301)

$20 the DVD, but also $24 for a pair of tickets, $8 for parking, and $12 for popcorn & drinks

Wow. That's gotta suck. I spend:
2 tickets @ 6 = 12
+
1 large combo @6=6
=
$18

And most movies aren't worth renting, much less buying, the DVD for. I've seen about a dozen movies this year. The only ones I'm interested in the DVD for are Sky Captain and maybe Riddick.

Re:Must suck to live where you do. (1)

oojah (113006) | more than 9 years ago | (#10374082)

I agree.

The expensive tickets for me are £5.80, cheaper at around £4. The more expensive one is more convenient for me.

I don't tend to eat when I go to the cinema, but if I do say maybe £4-5 for popcorn & drinks.

This works out as US$7.25 at the cheapest or ~US$18 at the most expensive.

I too only buy DVDs rarely.

Cheers,

Roger

You're a moron. (1)

Rufus88 (748752) | more than 9 years ago | (#10372322)

After I see a movie, I usually end up buying the DVD to see the deleted and behind-the-scenes bonus material

You like every movie you see so much that you need to own the DVD? Can't you rent it once from blockbuster to see "The Making of Rocky V" and "Home Alone 3: Director's Commentary version"?

So I not only pay for $20 the DVD, but also $24 for a pair of tickets,

You pay twelve bucks for a movie ticket? Does the matre 'd come and pour your soda refills from a lead crystal caraffe?

Lots of movie theatres allow you to buy discount movie coupons in advance in books of ten. Look into it.

$8 for parking

Where do you go to see movies? Broadway?

and $12 for popcorn & drinks.

In the old days, you had to pay cash for movie theatre food. There's a reason they take credit cards now. Nobody carries enough cash to see a movie with popcorn and drinks. Go out to dinner first. For that $12 you can get two bourbon chicken combo plates at the food court. It's actually pretty good.

I've mostly stopped going to the movies and just wait half a year for the DVD

RENT IT. Unless you're talking about Star Wars, or LOTR, or something of that ilk, RENT it. There are a lot of movies that are worth seeing but not worth owning. All that money you're wasting could be going into a Roth IRA.

FX in the theater (1)

cornjones (33009) | more than 9 years ago | (#10372357)

If the movie is based on special FX, explosions or cinematography I go to a nice theater w/ fancy screen, comfortable seats and good sound. Anything from Shrek to Bourne Identity to Hero (-- great movie) I will shell out the $10+/head to go. Other than that, I will wait for the DVD (and download the rip I almost never bother w/ cam versions anymore).

The movie going experience is especially good in certain films. I try to go close to opening night on the big films. The vibe is much more interested. I just saw Sean and the dead (or whatever). The movie was very tongue in cheek and the crowd was very into it. Great movie for an enthusiastic crowd.

Always at the Theatre! (1)

lkaos (187507) | more than 9 years ago | (#10372411)

I almost never watch a movie over again. The theatre is much much cheaper. My typical movie experience consists of:

Tickets: $5 x 2 = $10
Beer: $3.50 x 2 = $7
Food: $5 x 2 = $10

Of course, the number of beers goes up depending on how bad the movie is.. but that's the great thing about the Draft House [alamodrafthouse.com] , no matter how bad a movie is, you can order enough beer to make it better :-)

Yes I go out to the movies (1)

mobby_6kl (668092) | more than 9 years ago | (#10372460)

"The cost of going to the movies is now more than double that of a DVD!"

I wouldn't be so sure. Let's see:

Tickets: $24
Parking: $8 (is parking really that expensive in the US? Or are you driving a semi truck?)
Food: $12
Total: $44 or $22 per person

DVD: $20
Food: $5
Home Theater: $4699, I picked a few from the page you linked to (Yamaha surround: $999, 51" Zenith LCD: $3,700)

You have to consider the cost of equipment, because otherwise you could buy the whole theater and claim it costs you nothing to watch a movie there.

I don't know how long a home theater lasts, but let's try this, I think it could work:
The cost of watching a move at home = ( 4699/dvds_you_watched) + 20 + 5

You'll need to watch about 200 DVDs to get the average cost to $48 or 248 to get $44 and well over 1000 to get twice as cheap. So yeah, it is may cheaper, but that depends on how many DVDs you watch and how many people are involved.

Re:Yes I go out to the movies (1)

gothzilla (676407) | more than 9 years ago | (#10373909)

Keep in mind that home theater can be used for much more than just DVD's, so only part of the cost can be attributed to replacing the movies. You also are paying for the convenience of watching a movie anytime you want in the comfort of your own home, where you can play mystery science theater, make out with your significant other, drink beer, or hell even screw during the movie if it's not very good.
Just the beer and the screw makes it worth the money imho. :)

I pirate from usenet you insensitive clod! (1)

numbski (515011) | more than 9 years ago | (#10372478)

That's all I have to say.

Really. You can keep scrolling now.

Definitely buy DVD's (1)

krs-one (470715) | more than 9 years ago | (#10372515)

I definitely don't go out to the movies. I think the last movie I saw in the theaters was The Chronicles of Riddick last June. Not a huge fan of the theaters, way too expensive (even as a student). If a movie costs $6.50, and I can wait and get the DVD for $8.99, I'm more than willing to pay slightly more to see all the deleted scenes and making-of stuff that comes on the DVD.

Just gotta wait and watch for Fry's to have sales and you can get 6 or 7 DVD's for $45 or $50. Plus, there's a ton better older movies than newer ones. Most (not all) new movies have sucked major ass.

On a side note, I love collecting DVD's and CD's for the artwork, so for me, its always a win-win situation to buy a DVD.

-Vic

no. (1)

PerlDudeXL (456021) | more than 9 years ago | (#10372522)

I usually go to see a movie and don't buy it on VHS or DVD.
I'm going to the movies once per week (sneak preview) and
if I want to see something interesting. On Tuesdays its cheaper
here (germany) and I can get a student discount. I try to stay
away from popcorn&drinks and I use public transporation.

I don't even own an standalone DVD player. I can
play them, but I don't watch or rent them.

A DVD can't replace an evening in a movie theater.
At home you are easily disturbed.

Initial Investment? (1)

cerebralsugar (203167) | more than 9 years ago | (#10372762)

Doesn't the initial investment of a home theatre system need to be figured in here? Yes, $20 for a dvd, $24 bucks for tickets, yada yada. How about $1800 for a nice starter home theatre system? I think you have to watch a LOT of movies, make a lot of homemade popcorn, and drink a lot of bottled coke before that fixed cost starts to become less present.

Go to the movies? Forget it! (1)

AstroSurf (629842) | more than 9 years ago | (#10372797)

Who would go to the movies? Pay $12 AND get *SPAMMED* with ads?! Not for thith little black duck.

When I saw the Phantom Menace there must've been 50 ads before the movie. I don't even remember what the movie was about because I was still pissed about it the next day!

I think I've been to the movies maybe 4 times since then. And I used to go pretty much weekly.

Also, 2 of those 4 times, it was IMAX. The second of those two times started with ads, which were followed by:

"This is not an IMAX movie. It's a 35mm movie on an IMAX screen."

I shouted, "Why didn't it say that in the newspaper ad?" Someone should burn them for bait and switch.

Word to the entertainment industry (and sports and SO MANY OTHERS). If you treat people badly, the reaction you're guaranteed to get is:

"F me?! F you too."

That's just the way things are. Get a clue.

Re:Go to the movies? Forget it! (1)

cerebralsugar (203167) | more than 9 years ago | (#10372931)

They don't look at it as treating you badly. They look at it as "giving you a glimpse into hollywood's current product line." Those trailers, and sometimes ads, help subsidize the theatre. Your ticket price seems high, but it probably be worse without those.

So, what would you rather do: A theater with no ads or trailers, and your single ticket is $22, or watch the adds and pay $11? If your answer is $22, I bet there are a lot of people like you, and you might be able to open a competiting theatre that would do very well. Infact, maybe you could have it both ways - one tick price for ads, one for no ads. The drawback is having the same movie take up two of your screens.

One thing that always works for me is showing up late. I'm sort of naturally like that anyway. Show up 10, 15 minutes late, and usually the movie is almost starting - then you get the cheap price, and you don't waste time seeing ads. Of course, you might get a lousy seat.

depends on the timing (1)

majid_aldo (812530) | more than 9 years ago | (#10372876)

say a movie hits theaters at time 0 months.

time, cost, media:
-1mos. $0 crappy pirated private screening from the internet
0mos $20 at the theater
4mos $10 discount theater screening
6mos $7 on pay-per-view
9mos $20 DVD
1year $0 on local ZBYTV

just depends where you want to consume on the "consumption" line.

A UK perspective (1)

nkodengar (622810) | more than 9 years ago | (#10372983)

Where I live, the nearest cinema is a 15 mile drive, thankfully parking is free. Tickets cost £5.50 (US$9.98) (although the price is a lot higher in London) and a bucket of popcorn and an obscenely large drink (with free refill) can be bought as a combo deal for £4.50 ($8.16) and we often have to wait until the film is out in the US on DVD before we get to see it at the cinema here.

DVDs on the the other hand have a high-street rrp of £20-25 ($36-45) (though they are often cheaper from supermarkets or online from amazon or http://www.play.com/). It's worth noting that the UK releases of films often come with fewer extras than the US version, so a lot of people buy R1 imports (multi-region dvd players are very common here).

In the stay at home camp. (1)

ATMosby (746034) | more than 9 years ago | (#10373077)

Most of the movies don't interest me, and as a result I've ended up with a very extensive foreign film collection. Stuff you just can't see at the local theaters. Stuff like:

Noir
Sky High
Road
Company
The Heroic Trio
Spooks (aka MI5)
Slayers

Now granted that some of those are television shows elsewhere in the world, but they're still fun (IMHO) to watch. And Spooks goes from 59 minutes in the UK to 42 minutes in the US.

Just Plain Lazy (1)

DeadBugs (546475) | more than 9 years ago | (#10373108)

Lately, I have been just plain lazy and missed some of the good movies at the theater (like Spider-man 2). And I'm too lazy to return a rental. So on that rare occasion that I do get motivated I buy what I want to see on DVD. If I get to the store the week the movie comes out I can pick it up for about $15. And if I don't like the movie I can sell it at work for around $12

I also hate to miss any part of a movie, so the pause button works a lot better at home, compared to the theater.

This isn't so easily boiled down (1)

dreadlocks (637491) | more than 9 years ago | (#10373309)

First it depends where you live:

My brother who lives in LA, says that he just buys everything when it comes out for $15 at BBuy. By the time he buys tickets for 2 and parks he's over $20, so for him it is an easy decision. He doesn't have a fancy HT BTW.

For me in Houston, I can do the same for under $12. The theater in LA has to pay for the real estate it sits on, so the LA movie patron helps out quite a bit.

Next it depends on your level of "must see"

My brother has no problem waiting until a flick comes out on DVD. There is the rare flick he will not miss on the big screen (me too). I have kids, so I'm in no rush to hassle with sitters etc. I'll just rent it for $1 at the local kiosk machine at the grocery store.

3rd: how much of your life revolves around bad movies? Evidently quite a bit as we're now choosing the most cost effective way to watch more video. My brother used to go to the movies weeekly, so to keep the same level of entertainment, he has decided the "buy" route is the way to go. For me, I went out once per month at the most, so I just end up renting.

4th: if you have $$, you probably will see the flick and then buy it to watch again and again anyway. There are few movies I've bought. I probably have 1/10th the movies my bro has.

5th: if you want a HT, you're gonna find some way to justify buying one. I have a nice HT setup, but it is not just for movies.

Basically, the conclusion is to find a great paying job in a low cost of living part of the country, then you can watch the movies for cheap then buy them all over again to watch on your HT system that you paid big $$ for. Why settle for one or the other when you can have both!!

easier said than done, eh?

Target Movie Theater Audience (1)

Whatchamacallit (21721) | more than 9 years ago | (#10373378)

The primary targets for Movie Theaters:

1. Kids in the dating age 18+
2. Adults out on the town, before they have kids.
3. Under 30 but above 18+ and typically male (Blockbuster Action and Sci-Fi Horror Flicks).
4. Adults with young children (Disney, Pixar, etc.)
5. Young teenagers 12-17, they'll see anything to get out of the house and suck face in the dark.

The remainder are the one's buying/renting DVD's or doing pay per view (cable/satellite). Then there is the less then 1% who pirate over the Internet and burn their own DVD's. Add another 2% for those who bought 321 Studio's software before it was banned and who burn copies of DVD's they rent.

The cost of large screen TV's, DVD players, and Home Theater stereo systems have dropped quite a bit in the USA. Why pay $20+ USD for two to see a movie (not counting food) in a theater when you can sit in the comfort of your own home and watch a high quality DVD (rental cost $3-$5)?

Notice the target audience above? I remember the late 1970's and early 1980's when there were a heck of a lot more rated R movies out there. i.e. nudity, drugs, extreme violence, etc. Notice how most movies are not R rated anymore? This is because of the target audience!

The movie theaters don't make a heck of a lot of money on ticket sales they make most of the money on popcorn and soda. Think about the cost of popcorn and fountain soda then think about what you pay for it in the theater! It's a 200% markup!

8 week old baby (1)

linuxwrangler (582055) | more than 9 years ago | (#10373419)

I have an 8 week old baby girl you insensitive clod. We're lucky to see a DVD. Hell, we're lucky to see 5 hours of sleep. However we do enjoy pizza, beer and a movie at baby night [picturepubpizza.com] at the Parkway Theater [picturepubpizza.com] in Oakland.

Re:8 week old baby (1)

immortal (145467) | more than 9 years ago | (#10373542)

Thank god for baby night. And now that mine is almost three, he is in gymnastics where once a month we drop him off for several hours of energy burn with other kids and we just go out and try a new resteraunt.

cheat the MPAA ... legally! (3, Informative)

Yonder Way (603108) | more than 9 years ago | (#10373431)

I go to maybe one or two movies a year. And they better be damn good movies. The last one I went to in a theater, I think, was Shrek 2 and only because my daughter bugged the hell out of me. Before that it was Hulk.

I don't rent movies. I don't do pay per views. I wait. I am patient. I wait for Blockbuster to finish quenching the surge of demand for a new movie, and then I buy it when it hits the "Pre-Viewed" rack. Even then I wait until they run the "2 for $20" sale. That's when I stock up. I walk out once or twice a month with an armload of DVD's.

Sooner or later I'll purge the collection and recoup some of those costs via eBay. For now, though, it's kinda cool knowing that I legally own over 400 DVD's and not a cent of my money has gone to the MPAA.

I'm done with movie theatres. (4, Interesting)

venomkid (624425) | more than 9 years ago | (#10373462)

1) Sound

Most of these theatres are run by people with no real AV calibration experience as far as I can tell. They EQ the bass up too high, the mids too low, and the highs are shrill. This is one of the reasons I couldn't enjoy Matrix Revolutions; the low mid of the punches was turned into an oatmeal slap by the horribly configured audio system. And this was on Sony DTS. Much of the time there is also some kind of buzz in the background. This is why I had trouble watching X Men 2 and a few others.

2) Video

Lots of times the video ends up looking flat and desaturated. I'm not sure if this is badly maintained projectors or what. It's often off center and obvious when switching reels. I long for digital video.

3) Audience

I hate them. Loud, obnoxious asshats chatting on cell phones and commenting aloud on the movie. Kids brought to the WRONG movies, so they're asking questions or crying. The lip smacking of the teenage couple making out behind me. Rednecks with their laser pointers and minimum wage ushers who won't do anything about it. No thanks.

You'd think for nearly (or over in some cases) $10 a ticket, they could have someone come in and set this stuff straight.

I don't have a huge home theatre system but watching it on my ordinary 36" TV with my Wharfedales and my Onkyo receiver is a better movie experience by far than going to any of the theatres near me.

DVD (2, Interesting)

Alrescha (50745) | more than 9 years ago | (#10373589)

I used to go to movies. Not a lot, but I did go. When "Fellowship of the Ring" came out, I went.

The experience was pretty awful. From the house lights not going down on time and the light from the left-open doors shining on the screen to the sticky floor and talking/sneezing/coughing.

I watched, and muttered those now immortal words "I can do better than this at home"

A year later I had a DLP projector under the couch (852x480) and a 100" screen at the living room wall. It lives up to my claim - I've never even looked at a movie theater since.

My costs for the first couple of years works out to be $3-4/per hour of viewing. Cheaper than a movie theater and a lot more rewarding.

A.

Sheesh.. (1)

Creepy Crawler (680178) | more than 9 years ago | (#10373636)

Well, the MPAA blames us of pirating, why NOT do it.

We're all considered guilty anyways.

Im doing my share.

It depends... (1)

antdude (79039) | more than 9 years ago | (#10373681)

1. What movie it is and how badly I want to see it in the theater. I usually go for the movies I really want to see.

2. I always go with someone instead of by myself.

3. If I have time.

There are a lot of movies that I want to see, but there is lack of free time.

Excuse to get out of the house (1)

l0rd (52169) | more than 9 years ago | (#10373861)

While going the movies is getting outrageously expensive (10 euro's for a ticket here in holland, ridiculous!), going to the cinema is more than just seeing a movie.

Sure, you can watch it at home (A VERY decent projector & home theater can be gotten for about $8.000 these days) with full cinema quality. Especially if you live alone and don't have any kids running around or other idiots yapping about. You can watch a movie in beter than cinema quality and not have to be annoyed by phones going off and such.

On the other hand, you usually also go to the movies to get out of the house. Especially if you're a geek, you probably don't get out much anyway, as most computing based activities take place at home or at work. Also, it's more fun to take a chick to the movies than bring her to your living room.....

While it is outrageous, and if the movie's decent you WILL end up downloading it or buying it on dvd, there is still to substitute for the cinema. Getting out of the house and watching something with other people isn't the same as sitting in your living room alone at 3 in the morning watching the latest flick you got of bittorrent.
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