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Auto Accident at SANE Conference Kills One

michael posted more than 9 years ago | from the turn-down-a-glass dept.

GNU is Not Unix 542

Several people have submitted news from SANE 2004 that a car crash involving several Free Software developers has killed one and injured two others. Richard Stallman was in the car earlier but apparently had been dropped off prior to the accident.

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FAA? (-1, Troll)

RLiegh (247921) | more than 9 years ago | (#10394600)

First Assasination Attempt?

Re:FAA? (1, Informative)

Sidicas (691633) | more than 9 years ago | (#10394713)

First Assasination Attempt?

No, but it's the 2nd car accident within the past 6 months. The first [debian.org] was in Spain

Re:FAA? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10394760)

If you can't even drive a fricken car after staying up all night "getting your hack on" then I can only imagine how shitty your eurohippy welfare code must be.

Re:FAA? (2, Insightful)

lachlan76 (770870) | more than 9 years ago | (#10394899)

Seriously. Someone is dead. Two others are injured.

THIS IS WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY???
Wake up, go outside, and maybe you'll realise that this isn't the kind of thing to joke about.

And whoever modded the parent funny is fucked up.

Pot and Hippies (-1, Troll)

thefatz (97467) | more than 9 years ago | (#10394606)

What do you expect....

I AGREE WITH THIS POST (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10394639)

You dirty GNU/Hippies can't handle the truth!

first accident (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10394607)

oops I mean first post

what is.... (0, Troll)

100MHzperhour (587160) | more than 9 years ago | (#10394608)

was the car's onboard navigation system running windows? apparently...

/care (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10394612)

Who cares?

Re:/care (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10394826)

I do.

Richard Stallman was in the car earlier but apparently had been dropped off prior to the accident.

Damnit damnit, son of a bitch! So close!

OMGWTF (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10394615)

MS want's to kill OOS DEVELOPERS

In Unrelated news (-1, Flamebait)

carlcmc (322350) | more than 9 years ago | (#10394618)

Bill Gates was spotted leaving the area of the SANE conference...

this is where (-1, Flamebait)

carlcmc (322350) | more than 9 years ago | (#10394850)

the user moderators need to get a kick in their pants. there were no prior comments and it gets moderated as redundant twice! at least be brave and call it flame bait like someone else did. and no, its not redundant or flamebait. i like microsoft. THERE I SAID IT!. But we all know that comment was going to be made sometime, so I made it first.

This is where metamoderators can give people a kick in the shins for abusing moderating privileges.

Re:this is where (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10394994)

care to make any more posts on the subject, or have you not learned your lesson yet. don't joke about death.

Cause of crash: (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10394628)

Microsoft developers driving a black car ran them off a cliff.

0 comments, site already slower than jesus? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10394631)

And when it does load, what the fuck?

The Slashdot Staff are hypocrites and asses. (1, Offtopic)

Old Ike (637987) | more than 9 years ago | (#10394633)

I've seen several posts recently where people complain about having "infinite" Meta-Mod points. Almost like it's a burden.

It most certainly is not. It is a gift to patient, karma-whoring trolls. Read the Meta-Mod FAQ [slashdot.org] .

Say you encounter a typical "OMG BILL GATES IS TEH SATAN!" post by, say, circletimessquare. It's been duly modded up as "Insightful" by some unknown editor or slashbot. Why not Meta-Mod that as "unfair"? Sure, you won't have any significant effect on either the poster's karma or the person who modded them up, but you will "help ... remove bad moderators from the M1 eligibility pool."

Similarly, suppose you encounter a post by a troll seething with racism and hatred. It's been duly modded down as "Troll" or "Flamebait". This too is "unfair"! That post increased the noise, and as such was very valuable. It belongs in +2 territory with something by Perens, surely! Whoever modded that down should be removed from the moderation eligibility pool, post haste!

(Note that you don't have to support the racist shite in the post. The poster probably doesn't either; he's just doing it for the reaction.)

This is the same thing that happens to positive-karma troll accounts when they upmod a troll. They're found out in Meta-Mod, and lose their ability to moderate.

It's time the trolls use the same weapons as the slashbots! If you moderate, use "-1 Overrated" since those don't get Meta-Modded. And Meta-Mod whenever you get the chance! I mark almost everything as "unfair", though I occasionally see a very obvious troll being upmodded, which I mark as "fair" or leave alone.

Either that, or just have fun. Whichever.

hans.cx (-1, Offtopic)

REBloomfield (550182) | more than 9 years ago | (#10394635)

You can't fool me, I'm never clicking on a cx domain ever again!

---------

but with all seriousness, this sucks. Thoughts with family and friends.

Simply one thing to say (5, Insightful)

FunWithHeadlines (644929) | more than 9 years ago | (#10394636)

My deepest sympathy to the family and friends of the loved one they lost.

Re:Simply one thing to say (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10394727)

cp * /home/

I think this is all that needs to be said (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10394869)

See the subject.

This thread needs no jokes by stupid fuckers who can't get laid. This thread needs none of that. A person died. All that needs to be said was said in the parent. Even if you didn't know him, show some fucking respect.

Re:I think this is all that needs to be said (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10394893)

Yes sir Mr. Anonymous Coward

Re:Simply one thing to say (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10394917)

And speedy recovery to Edwin Hermans and Sebastian S. (I also hope the insurance situation with the loaned car and health coverage is straight-forward. After a tragic accident, who needs the paperwork hassle when there's a problem.)

Prayers (2, Insightful)

thefatz (97467) | more than 9 years ago | (#10395023)

For those of us who hold onto our faith dearly, a simple prayer.

"God, I ask you bless and comfort those who are grieving in this time of loss. I ask you bless the Bakker family, and be with the those who have lost a good friend. Allow the loved ones to seek closure for Mr. Bakker. In Jesus name, amen"

In case of /. effect (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10394646)

Report as of 10:56 EDT:

Car accident details

There have been a bunch of rumours about a car accident involving some free software folks today. Since there seems to be no central place for all information I am trying to gather all information here.

If you have any other information please drop me an email at wichert@wiggy.net [mailto]

All mentioned times are in CEST (UTC +0200).

  • There has been a car accident returning from a trip to bring Richard Stallman (RMS) from SANE 2004 [nluug.nl] to Paris. (confirmed by several sources)
  • they collided with a truck which merged onto their lane while driving in fog (unconfirmed)
  • Exact time of the accident is unknown. It was on the morning of September 30th before 09:00.
  • Richard Stallman was dropped off in Paris and no longer in the car (confirmed by Rop and Richard).
  • At the time of the accident Hans Bakker (mclightje), Edwin Hermans (madeddie) [madtech.cx] , and Sebastian S. (webmind) were in the car. (confirmed).
  • The car belongs to Rop Gonggrijp, who lent it to the travelers. RMS was staying with Rop during SANE. (confirmed by Rop)
  • Hans Bakker (photo [slashdot.org] , homepage [www.hans.cx] ) did not survive the crash. (confirmed by girlfriend)
  • Edwin Hermans has a broken hip and has been transfered to a different hospital for surgery. Sebastian is (or was by now) in surgery for broken bones but is not in critical condition.
Bad information Press

Re:In case of /. effect (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10394736)

As reported by Webwereld, the site http://www.ne2000.nl/ has been switched to black after the loss of Hans Bakker.

Get ready for bad jokes... (-1, Troll)

Saeed al-Sahaf (665390) | more than 9 years ago | (#10394648)

Ah yes. Get ready for all the "You may not have heard, but Richard Stallman has passed on..." jokes... Please don't beat me.

Re:Get ready for bad jokes... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10394822)

Just heard on talk radio, GNU/LINUX advocate Richard M Stallman was found dead in his car. There were no other details. I'm sure even if you were never annoyed by his insitence on prefixing everything with 'GNU', you'll still remember his fine programming work. Truly an American Icon.

And now... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10394650)

Now it's killed their server too...

suckage (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10394652)

That sucks terribly. Remember, if anyone asks, Billy did it.

Could have been worse... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10394657)

Bill Gates could have been in the car. Or Steve Ballmer but he wouldn't have died, he's padded like the Michelin man.

Somebody dies in an accident (5, Insightful)

SocietyoftheFist (316444) | more than 9 years ago | (#10394662)

..and the first 3 posts I see are jokes about it.

Re:Somebody dies in an accident (1, Insightful)

RLiegh (247921) | more than 9 years ago | (#10394703)

..and the first 3 posts I see are jokes about it.
That's nothing; what's really something is if it had been Bill Gates instead of Dick "-smoker" Stallman those jokes would be +5 right now instead of -1 troll.

Re:Somebody dies in an accident (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10394774)

Amen, brother. Amen ....

Re:Somebody dies in an accident (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10394763)

Maybe first two ports *YOU* see. I read at +2 and I don't see any jokes.

Re:Somebody dies in an accident (-1, Offtopic)

MarkGriz (520778) | more than 9 years ago | (#10395003)

by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 30, @11:04AM (#10394763)
Maybe first two ports *YOU* see. I read at +2 and I don't see any jokes.


If you're an AC and you read at +2, does that make you a vampire?

Re:Somebody dies in an accident (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10394853)

Well excuse us if we don't really give a shit. People die every day. Death is a part of life. I don't see articles posted everytime some employee at Microsoft or some other software company kicks the bucket. People die all the time. In fact, I'm willing to wager that a few have kicked the bucket since I started writing this post. This isn't news and doesn't belong on this site and so people are going to joke about it. Deal with it.

Re:Somebody dies in an accident (5, Insightful)

lukewarmfusion (726141) | more than 9 years ago | (#10394932)

I don't see any jokes right now...

But I can understand. My first reaction to bad news, once the shock begins to fade, is to crack jokes. That's my way of dealing with stuff like this. My brother was in a horrible accident and I was the first person to find out and meet him at the hospital. The first words out his mouth, while lying on the emergency room table, were "Sorry about your car, man."

Yes, it's sad. Yes, it's awful that such things happen. But laughter is another way of coping with tragedy... don't rush to condemn the jokes.

I'd like to joke about this, but (2, Insightful)

grunt107 (739510) | more than 9 years ago | (#10394683)

I'd like to send condolences to Mr. Bakker's family and friends for their loss, and hope the others recover quickly.

Now post a story I can make fun of, quick!!!

sick ad... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10394689)

I have lost a friend today, in a car crash, and had to see a "At 220Mph blahblahblah" SUN ad under the article about his demise on /. here....

Oh mo! (-1, Troll)

Ramsey-07 (737166) | more than 9 years ago | (#10394690)

Looks like the pidgeon got /dev/null

Re:Oh mo! (0, Troll)

Ramsey-07 (737166) | more than 9 years ago | (#10394780)

Where is Longhorn when you need it?

with hair like that he deserved to die (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10394693)

Stupid dictator coddling europhippies.

Aw. (-1, Troll)

Renraku (518261) | more than 9 years ago | (#10394696)

I see a new movie similar to Swordfish coming up. Of course, it would be in an "Open" format and free for everyone.

I'm shivering... (5, Interesting)

smari (257143) | more than 9 years ago | (#10394702)

Shit. I know one of those guys. It's messed up to read something like that on /.

Tone of voice... (-1, Troll)

Loco3KGT (141999) | more than 9 years ago | (#10394717)

makes a big difference

Richard Stallman was in the car earlier but apparently had been dropped off prior to the accident.

I can't tell if you're thankful or disappointed...

either way I laughed...

Re:Tone of voice... (1)

lpangelrob2 (721920) | more than 9 years ago | (#10394785)

Tone of voice probably didn't matter with regards to the sentence, as it was just a statement of fact. Any bias in this particular sentence would be introduced by the reader.

Re:Tone of voice... (-1, Troll)

phearlez (769961) | more than 9 years ago | (#10394814)

Yeah, all sympathies to those impacted but I have to say the first thing that came to my mind was Denis Leary saying "I mean Stevie Ray Vaughan is dead, and we can't get Jon Bon Jovi in a helicopter."

"Those Impacted"? (0, Troll)

TheReckoning (638253) | more than 9 years ago | (#10394837)

Christ that was insensitive. There are enough trolls here without that comment.

Condolances (4, Insightful)

TheFlyingGoat (161967) | more than 9 years ago | (#10394718)

Condolances to the family and friends of the individual killed. Good luck on a quick recovery to the injured individuals.

It's always sad when people die, but when they're connected to you in some way (even an abstract way), it hits a little harder. Any Christians (or other faiths, for that matter) should say a quick prayer for everyone involved.

As for the /. crowd that needs to try making a joke out of it (Gates/MS jokes), try and imagine if the individual who died was your father, or brother. If you can still make a joke about it, you're sick.

Re:Condolances (5, Insightful)

ajk (944) | more than 9 years ago | (#10394748)

As for the /. crowd that needs to try making a joke out of it (Gates/MS jokes), try and imagine if the individual who died was your father, or brother. If you can still make a joke about it, you're sick.

Some people deal by making jokes. That's quite normal.

Re:Condolances (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10395012)

Yes, but something like "pot and hippies, what did you expect?" is offensive in all senses.

Re:Condolances (1)

Tassach (137772) | more than 9 years ago | (#10394931)

If you can still make a joke about it, you're sick.
Laughing at death is one way of dealing with our own inevitable mortality.

Saw a picture of RMS earlier today... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10394732)

... and he was wearing a black rose on his Tux. Surely, this means he knew of his death.

RMS is dead. Long live Open Sores!

My condolence to the family... (4, Interesting)

Yaa 101 (664725) | more than 9 years ago | (#10394733)

Yesterday I was demonstrating on the dam square in Amsterdam with some of the people involved. I want to express my deepest respect...

Coralize it first!!! (4, Informative)

hacker (14635) | more than 9 years ago | (#10394735)

For those that want to see this article, please use the Coralized version:

http://www.wiggy.net.nyud.net:8090/tmp/accident/

Re:Coralize it first!!! (2, Informative)

caluml (551744) | more than 9 years ago | (#10394908)

For those that wonder what this is about, like I did, this page explains it [nyu.edu] .
It's bascially a distributed caching system that anyone can use.
You just go to www.sitename.com.nyud.net:8090/rest/of/uri/

Sigh. (3, Interesting)

Eeknay (766740) | more than 9 years ago | (#10394739)

It's really very sad and depressing to find that the first ten or fifteen comments of this article (yes, I browse at -1 level) are all offtopic and attempts at first post.

My deepest sympathies to the family of that person killed.

I don't understand (1, Interesting)

Dekks (808541) | more than 9 years ago | (#10394745)

This is very sad and my sympathy goes out to the family but I don't understand why this is news? Were these important people or people I should of heard of? I'm not trying to sound trollish, I genuinely don't understand why this is news or what influence these people have as to why we should mourn them. Could someone enlighten me?

Re:I don't understand (1)

Marc Desrochers (606563) | more than 9 years ago | (#10394879)

I genuinely don't understand why this is news or what influence these people have as to why we should mourn them.

Because they were people...

Re:I don't understand (4, Insightful)

ZZeta (743322) | more than 9 years ago | (#10394889)

Of course you should have heard about . [stallman.org]

But anyway, this article isn't about him. Someone of our community just passed away, and we mourn him as one of us.

Well you see buddy... (5, Insightful)

P-Frank (788137) | more than 9 years ago | (#10394912)

Slashdot has a strange focus on issues of free software, an accident that killed one developer and could have potentially killed one of the founding fathers of the movement (Stallman aka Mr. GNU, Mr. GPL) makes it news. Even though Slashdot isn't generally an obituary site, I'd like to question why the person would have to be "important" for you to mourn them, a man with a girlfriend and a family passed away tragically. Do you need to know anymore to feel a pang of sorrow? Does he have to be a celebrity to make it important?

Sorry for the moral/ethical tirade, but maybe it'll give the moderators of this post and the poster himself something to think about.

Re:Well you see buddy... (2, Interesting)

Dekks (808541) | more than 9 years ago | (#10395007)

I regretted using the words why should I mourn this person, I mean why is this one slashdot and not say kids in iraq or sudan, or the guy who was shot in the park the other day etc. And I don't mean that in these people aren't more important than others tone either, I just don't know who these people are. Its like if you burst into a room and said Fred Smith died yesterday!!, you'd probably be met with blank stares and then asked, just who was Fred Smith? I think it was a reasonable question, just maybe a little poorly worded.

Re:I don't understand (0)

DrEldarion (114072) | more than 9 years ago | (#10394926)

In addition, people die every day in far more tragic ways, and we don't hear of any of those. Why is this news and those aren't?

Amen brother. (2)

Luscious868 (679143) | more than 9 years ago | (#10394964)

This is very sad and my sympathy goes out to the family but I don't understand why this is news? Were these important people or people I should of heard of? I'm not trying to sound trollish, I genuinely don't understand why this is news or what influence these people have as to why we should mourn them. Could someone enlighten me?
It is sad. That being sad, you don't see an article posted every time someone dies at Microsoft or some other software company or at some non-free software conference. If it was someone critical to the free software movement or something then it's one thing. That's not the case here, and thus this article really doesn't belong on this site. I read /. for interesting and informative stories, not to feel bad because someone dies in a car accident. I'm sure this post will get modded down as a troll, but somebody had to say it because trust me, I'm not the only one who feels this way. IMHO, it's an inappropriate article given the nature of this site.

Re:I don't understand (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10394972)

He was part of the Open Source Disfunctional Family.
I didn't know him, but he will be missed.

Re:I don't understand (4, Interesting)

TheFlyingGoat (161967) | more than 9 years ago | (#10395002)

In addition to the other responses you'll get, please check out this thread. [slashdot.org] You'll notice that a handful of the posts are from people that knew these individuals, or had been around them within the past few days.

There's a good chance that 1 slashdot account will never be used again, which is a sad thing for us all. Not to mention that the individual that died wasn't just a member of the community, he was a contributor... something that makes him stand apart from most of us.

sad news (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10394753)

I just heard some sad news on talk web site Slashdot. Communist utopian horror/sci-fi writer Richard "Menshevik" Stallman was found dead 6000 miles away from his MIT bachelor pad this morning. There were loads more details. There weren't any more details. I'm sure everyone in the Slashdot community will miss him - even if you didn't enjoy his work, there's no denying his contributions to a generation of young, angry, "progressive" single men. Truly a Soviet icon.

Not laughable (-1, Redundant)

mirko (198274) | more than 9 years ago | (#10394766)

I was thinking about suggesting Hans' girlfriend would be looking for s strong shoulder to cry on but it's not funny.
I'd like to tell that all my sympathy goes to his friends and family.

Site is slow: text of the site (3, Informative)

Saib0t (204692) | more than 9 years ago | (#10394777)

Car accident details

There have been a bunch of rumours about a car accident involving
some free software folks today. Since there seems to be no central place
for all information I am trying to gather all information here.

If you have any other information please drop me an email
at wichert at wiggy dot net

All mentioned times are in CEST (UTC +0200).

* There has been a car accident returning from a trip to bring Richard
Stallman (RMS) from
SANE 2004 to Paris.
(confirmed by several sources)

* they collided with a truck which merged onto their lane while
driving in fog (unconfirmed)

* Exact time of the accident is unknown. It was on the
morning of September 30th before 09:00.

* Richard Stallman was dropped off in Paris and no longer in the car
(confirmed by Rop and Richard).

* At the time of the accident Hans Bakker (mclightje),
Edwin Hermans (madeddie), and
Sebastian S. (webmind) were in the car. (confirmed).

* The car belongs to Rop Gonggrijp, who lent it to the travelers.
RMS was staying with Rop during SANE. (confirmed by Rop)

* Hans Bakker (photo,
homepage)
did not survive the crash. (confirmed by girlfriend)

* Edwin Hermans has a broken hip and has been transfered to a different
hospital for surgery. Sebastian is (or was by now) in surgery for
broken bones but is not in critical condition.
* This appears to be the traffic report for the accident, as taken
infotraffic.

30-09-2004 13:50 ACCIDENT MORTEL à ASSEVILLERS (80) sur A1 (sens SUD-NORD)
ENTRE PERONNE ET ROYE
Debut : 30-09-2004 06:48
VICTIMES : 1 TUE(S)
VEHICULES EN CAUSE : 2 POIDS LOURD(S), 3 VEHICULE(S) LEGER(S)
OBSERVATIONS :SENS PARIS LILLE, SORTIE CONSEILLÉE A29 SAINT QUENTIN
.BOUCHON DE 4 KM.
Evenement termine depuis 30-09-2004 13:50
Translation:
30-09-2004 13:50 DEADLY CRASH at ASSEVILLERS(80) on A1 highway (SOUTH-NORTH)
BETWEEN PERONNE AND ROYE
Start: 30-09-2004 06:48
VICTIMS: 1 KILLED
VEHICLES INVOLVED: 2 TRUCKS, 3 CARS
OBSERVATIONS: DIRECTION PARIS LILLE, EXIT RECOMMENDED A29 SAINT QUENTIN.
TRAFFIC JAM 4 Km (2.5 miles)
Event stopped since 30-09-2004 13:50

Slashdot (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10394794)

I'm sure one of you slashdot faggots will blame Microsoft.

RMS & comp. (4, Insightful)

Libor Vanek (248963) | more than 9 years ago | (#10394798)

Never put RMS & Alan Cox & Linus in the very same car/plane or even building (just for sure ;-))). If you are paranoid it doesn't mean they aren't after you.

P.S.
Deepest condolences...

Re:RMS & comp. (2, Interesting)

robslimo (587196) | more than 9 years ago | (#10394969)

Too true. For a period in the early 1990's at my old job, I was part of a core of 4 key people (company even had 'key man' insurance on each of us). No more than 2 of us were allowed to travel on the same flight on business trips.

I give a shit why? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10394808)

A nerd dies in a car accident.

Big fuckin' deal.

Did these guys actually code anything worth while?

Michael and timothy found dead, too. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10394816)

Apparently, they were found in Michael's apartment, orgasmic grimaces on their face, after trying RMS's new "Open-Source Autoerotic Asphyxiation" technique.

So sad to see three luminaries die in one day.

Oh, michael, how I'll miss your trolling bylines and hypocritical censorship. And timothy, your incompetence and subtly erotic use of thousands of duplicate story posts (in a code only michael and CmdrTaco can read) was as heartwarming as it was irritating.

Goodbye to you both, and godspeed.

And RMS, you owe me $10. I hope I'm in your fucking will.

1234

Egads. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10394819)

So, I know everybody is going to run around giving sympathy for those who lost family, friends, etc. But my quesiton is, if the Big Dick Stallman was in the car, does that mean that it was a totally open source car? I was at one of his speeches once where the sponsoring organization was giving away from books in a drawing and Big Dick came across the auditorium in his little tip-toeing, stiff legged run and threw a hissy fit about whether the contents of the books were open source and could be freely copied and reproduced. So was the care completely designed and engineered by open source zealots and is it freely available for a moderate fee? Otherwise, I'm going to have to once again call bullshit on the Big Dick.

RMS survives (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10394835)

isn't that inSANE?

A request for /. readers: take the high road (4, Insightful)

sczimme (603413) | more than 9 years ago | (#10394843)


Please do not make any snarky comments about RMS getting out of the car before the accident. Regardless of your personal feelings, a person escaping potential serious injury or death should not be joke fodder - contrary to the first several posts.

Condolences to the family of the deceased.

Re:A request for /. readers: take the high road (2, Insightful)

mike_mgo (589966) | more than 9 years ago | (#10395008)

But jokes about jihads and holy wars in your sig are ok.

Terrible event (1)

caston (711568) | more than 9 years ago | (#10394851)

I'd think this event is terrible and give my greatest condolences to his family.
Now how can we blame Microsoft for this?

Michael and timothy found dead, too. :( :( (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10394877)

Apparently, they were found in Michael's apartment, orgasmic grimaces on their face, after trying RMS's new "Open-Source Autoerotic Asphyxiation" technique.

So sad to see three luminaries die in one day.

Oh, michael, how I'll miss your trolling bylines and hypocritical censorship. And timothy, your incompetence and subtly erotic use of thousands of duplicate story posts (in a code only michael and CmdrTaco can read) was as heartwarming as it was irritating.

Goodbye to you both, and godspeed.

And RMS, you owe me $10. I hope I'm in your fucking will.

4567

Respects and sympathies to the family... (4, Insightful)

jav1231 (539129) | more than 9 years ago | (#10394882)

It's always tough to lose someone so young. May you find some peace in this time of sorrow.

isn't it strange when a hacker dies? (1)

GNUALMAFUERTE (697061) | more than 9 years ago | (#10394890)

We really have a strong comunity feelling, even when we seem to be divided and separated by stupid technicall or filosofical diferences, and, Since our field (Computing), is a young science, and most of the developers are young people, we are not very used to see a Hacker die ...

Like RMS says, we have saints, but we don't have any gods yet ...

This has been an awfull accident, but in the years to come, we will see the older generations of Hackers getting older, and dying, It really makes you think, and still feells strange ...

ALMAFUERTE

Re:isn't it strange when a hacker dies? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10394986)

who gives 2 fucks about hackers, all hackers are evil and should be rounded up as terriorst

RMS & ESR (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10394904)

oh why oh why did not RMS & ESR be in the car and die, he is such an ass, the would will be better off with out him, him and ESR. ESR getting out of the car has to be the work of Gates

That'll teach them.... (-1, Troll)

ShatteredDream (636520) | more than 9 years ago | (#10394905)

To not call it GNU/Linux....

Those are people who died, died... (4, Informative)

WormholeFiend (674934) | more than 9 years ago | (#10394907)

Also, John E. Mack [telegraph.co.uk] was killed earlier this week after being hit by a drunk driver while crossing the street on foot.

Shame (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10394916)

Richard Stallman was in the car earlier but apparently had been dropped off prior to the accident.
Shame

Deepest condolences (3, Interesting)

mattr (78516) | more than 9 years ago | (#10394921)

What a terrible loss. My deepest sympathies to the bereaved family, and hope the survivors return to health quickly.

This is a time to think about how much all of the wonderful work in the free software world is based on the unselfish actions of precious individuals. Perhaps someone would like to post an accepted, confirmed email or physical address for people to send condolences or offers of assistance.

One question to slashdot, I did not see anything yet about drinking and driving. So maybe the "turn down a glass department" byline is, while a good idea in general when you are the driver, in this case perhaps inappropriate.

Matthew Rosin

What a waste... (-1, Offtopic)

DrPizza (558687) | more than 9 years ago | (#10394957)

"Richard Stallman was in the car earlier but apparently had been dropped off prior to the accident."

So near and yet so far.

For anyone whom doesn't know... (3, Informative)

Ramsey-07 (737166) | more than 9 years ago | (#10394963)

http://images.google.com.au/images?q=Richard%20Sta llman&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab= wi [google.com.au] http://www.stallman.org/ [stallman.org] Richard Stallman founded the GNU Project in 1984. He is the principal or initial author of GNU Emacs, the GNU C Compiler, the GNU Debugger GDB and parts of other packages. He is the President of the Free Software Foundation (FSF).

So Sad I spoke to Hans yesterday in Netherlands (1)

CreamOfWheat (593775) | more than 9 years ago | (#10394967)

at demo in Amsterdam...truly a brillant, funny man RIP Hans Bakker we will miss you!

Open Source and accidents (1)

vafada (782986) | more than 9 years ago | (#10394983)

What's with open source and accidents? one of the PearPC developer - died in a train accident one Apache guy died in an accident (can't remember what) now this...... :(

Re:Open Source and accidents (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10395031)

God hates OSS, and now he is takeing his vengance

A great friend left us in a brutal way :( (4, Interesting)

dimmu (214039) | more than 9 years ago | (#10394984)

Knowing hans since 1999 this is a real shock :( Condoleances to everybody who knew him :(

We'll miss you!

Safe professions (2, Interesting)

the frizz (242326) | more than 9 years ago | (#10395001)

In 1980 I remember my computer science professor saying his profession was the safest in the world - since no Professor of Computer Science in history had ever died. I believe it was true at the time.

The worst part... (1)

rwven (663186) | more than 9 years ago | (#10395016)

The worst part about this is that it's hard to know what to comment. It really sucks and there's nothing anyone can do about it... It's always sad when stuff like this happens...esp for no reason. It was foggy and a truck changed lanes into them....

just sucks....

LOLOOLOLOL!!! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10395022)

LOL, stupid fucking open sores hippies deserve what they get.. they totally ruined the IT econonmy and are chiefly responsible for the outsourcing crisis going on..

I have no sympathy. He deserves it. You fucking assholes are putting people out of work and making familes go hungry.

Information Please ! (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10395025)

If anyone has news of Richard Stallman today, please call either the FSF (ask Bradley Kuhn) or +33 1 42 76 05 49 (ask Loic Dachary). We have no reason to beleive that RMS was still in the car but he did not call yet, probably unaware of the accident and our worries. Please Wichert Akkerman, call us if you have more information.

Our deepest sympathies to the family of the person killed.

Dear SANE (0, Offtopic)

Letter (634816) | more than 9 years ago | (#10395032)

Dear SANE,

I'm glad you have this important information on your front page:

LATE BREAKING NEWS:

* SANE attendees who need to drill holes in their firewalls prior to their trip to Amsterdam: here are the IP ranges that will be used on the SANE network:

IPv4: 213.154.236.0/23
IPv6: 2001:7b8:20a::/48

-Letter

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