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SpaceShipOne to Attempt Second Flight on Monday

michael posted more than 9 years ago | from the i-feel-lucky dept.

Space 314

m_member writes "There is a very cool video of the recent SpaceShipOne flight (on the Scaled video page) as covered by Slashdot. It shows some angles not on the webcast and most impressively has internal footage from when the roll occurred in the ascent. There are no M&Ms this time but Melville takes a few holiday snaps!" Gogo Dodo writes "After a successful first flight for the X Prize, SpaceShipOne is a go for launch to claim the X Prize on Monday. Takeoff is at 7am Pacific, ignition at 8am." October 4 will be the anniversary of the Sputnik launch.

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Amazing (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10406593)

I'm giddy like a school girl getting her haircut for the prom.

WILL TEH CARPET MATCH TEH CURTAINS???!~!1` (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10406640)

I hope they can do it without the spin-stabilizing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10406601)

That looked rather dangerous.

Re:I hope they can do it without the spin-stabiliz (1)

diginux (816293) | more than 9 years ago | (#10406618)

Yeah, hopefully SpaceShipOne won't have case of the Mondays.

Re:I hope they can do it without the spin-stabiliz (2, Interesting)

mkmoose (759477) | more than 9 years ago | (#10406660)

I am guessing that there succuss will come out of the fact that a pilot can control this ship and it is not reliant on predetermined scenarios. I always worry when aircraft have too many computers in them. The pilot obviously averted disaster here.

Re:I hope they can do it without the spin-stabiliz (5, Interesting)

CriX (628429) | more than 9 years ago | (#10406663)

One thing that's amazing is that Melvill turned off the rocket something like 40 seconds early!! I wonder if SS1 could survive the stresses of atmosphere reentry falling from 200km altitude.

Re:I hope they can do it without the spin-stabiliz (1)

XaXXon (202882) | more than 9 years ago | (#10406687)

Maybe they already know the answer and that's why he shut the rocket off when he knew he would pass the 100km mark.

I think it's cool that they have a predictive altimeter.

Re:I hope they can do it without the spin-stabiliz (2, Insightful)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 9 years ago | (#10407046)

The other thing that is amazing is that the man is flying that spaceship MANUALLY!

Nasa never launched with a manual flight system, nor the Russians.

I am curious as to why it does not have a simple flight computer and gyros to auto stabalize the launch flight. Even a low cost autopilot out of a old jet could do the job.

Re:I hope they can do it without the spin-stabiliz (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10406704)

Well it's possable that it will happen again.
If he does not keep his paw's off the alirons after crossing 100k.

Its good that the roll rate was as low as it was.
Thers not enought air up there to damp the roll rate without thusters.

w00t (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10406609)

FP!

Har!

Monopoly Money (-1, Offtopic)

jinxidoru (743428) | more than 9 years ago | (#10406632)

When are they going to redesign the US Monopoly Money to make it less easy to counterfeit. I swear that everytime I play that game someone pays me in phony currency.

Re:Monopoly Money (0, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10406682)

To make this on-topic, SpaceShipOne will win 20,000 of the new $50 bills on Monday. Hooray!

Congrats! (4, Insightful)

grape jelly (193168) | more than 9 years ago | (#10406633)

Congrats the the Scaled Composites team! While I hope the $10M prize will give you guys a nice shot in the arm, why not put it toward developing space travel for high-speed human transport rather than tourism? It just strikes me as something that's much more financially viable than tourism....

Re:Congrats! (2, Insightful)

grape jelly (193168) | more than 9 years ago | (#10406669)

Come to think of it, high speed transport -- or any transport, for that matter -- has to be cheap (partly why Concorde failed, although I'm sure its crash in France also helped do it in). But people are content dropping $$$ into fun (as opposed to transport).... This is just a small step anyway, right?

Re:Congrats! (1, Informative)

sarahemm (707486) | more than 9 years ago | (#10406690)

Well, it cost something in the neighbourhood of $20M to build, so they're not really *gaining* any financing from this ;)

Re:Congrats! (4, Insightful)

XaXXon (202882) | more than 9 years ago | (#10406805)

That really doesn't make sense. The $20M is gone. Period. Picking up $10M isn't losing money. It's making $10M you wouldn't otherwise have.

If you paid $4 to drive over a toll bridge and there was a $2 bill lying there, would you not pick it up because it would still be net negative?

It also means that they only have to find a way to make $10M profit to break even as opposed to $20M.

Your comment really doesn't make any sense to me.

Re:Congrats! (2, Insightful)

Obfiscator (150451) | more than 9 years ago | (#10406894)

I think the situation is closer to seeing a $2 bill on the other side of a toll bridge and crossing the bridge to get it...only to learn that crossing the bridge cost you $4. Your net gain is negative and the direct result of wanting to pick up the $2 bill.

I would only consider picking up the $2 bill to be earning money if you were going to cross the bridge anyway. In that case, like you said, the toll money is already gone and you can say you "made" $2.

Re:Congrats! (4, Insightful)

chromaphobic (764362) | more than 9 years ago | (#10406973)

Or, just that no human being had ever crossed that bridge before and you wanted to prove it could be done, and didn't care about the $2 or the $4.

Re:Congrats! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10406919)

WTF are you smoking? Really. Because I want some.

Re:Congrats! (1)

wjwlsn (94460) | more than 9 years ago | (#10407090)

Remember Virgin's agreement to license the technology.

"London, September 27th 2004: Today, Sir Richard Branson announced that Virgin Group has entered into an agreement to license the technology to develop the world's first privately funded spaceships dedicated to carrying commercial passengers on space flights... The licensing deal with M.A.V. could be worth up to £14 million ($21.5 million) over the next fifteen years depending on the number of spaceships built by Virgin."

http://www.scaled.com/projects/tierone/092704_scal ed_paul_allen_virgin_galactic.htm [scaled.com]

X-Prize, NASA Funding (4, Insightful)

Aceto3for5 (806224) | more than 9 years ago | (#10406634)

Does/Should the X-Prize Foundation get federal funding for the efforts they are making towards space travel? Certainly NASA could learn a thing or two about budgets from these space explorers. I think perhaps it is a better investment for the government to fund private groups like this, considering the results of the state-run programs.

Re:X-Prize, NASA Funding (1)

Igloodude (710950) | more than 9 years ago | (#10406667)

Better yet, the X-Prize Foundation gets a lead on (as yet nonexistent) competitors for the commercial opportunities waiting up there.

Re:X-Prize, NASA Funding (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10407027)

Better yet, the X-Prize Foundation gets a lead on (as yet nonexistent) competitors for the commercial opportunities waiting up there.

*cough* The X-Prize Foundation doesn't own the technology, all they get are karma points.

Re:X-Prize, NASA Funding (4, Insightful)

sql*kitten (1359) | more than 9 years ago | (#10406775)

Does/Should the X-Prize Foundation get federal funding for the efforts they are making towards space travel?

Err, do you actually want to get into space or not?

Re:X-Prize, NASA Funding (4, Insightful)

System.out.println() (755533) | more than 9 years ago | (#10406878)

I think the entire purpose of the X-Prize is that it does NOT get government funding. commercial entities need to be self-sufficient here.

Re:X-Prize, NASA Funding (3, Interesting)

robi2106 (464558) | more than 9 years ago | (#10407037)

Gahhhhhhhhhh!!! Not everything needs government funding!

It shouldn't be some big tit that someone can just suck on for a little extra juice to keep on going (please tell that to the airlines & railroads...)

Besides as other posters have said, it was desigend to be privte avoid all the stupid red tape.

But your point about the state run groups is good. I would much rather have the fed hand out a contract to "develop X for us" with exclusive rights to the Fed, than have the Fed create a department to do "X".

Of course, national security concerns says that if the Fed ownes and wholely controlls the development of "X" then there is no company that could possible sue them for breach of contract, or accidentally leak data / information to the press, or other nations.

jason

Yes, consider the results of the state-run program (5, Insightful)

2nd Post! (213333) | more than 9 years ago | (#10407107)

We got to the moon. And back. Multiple times.
We sent probes to Mars. And Venus. And beyond. And some of them still work.
We sent rovers to Mars. That still work.
We built several working space vehicles.
We space-walked.
We build a space station. And then we built another one.
We chased comets. And sent the collected materials back.
We've populated our solar system with several probes that have performed beyond expectation.
We have Tang.
We have titanium hips, golf clubs, glass frames, laptops, and spyplanes.

There are many, many, more [nasa.gov] places where our investment into NASA has benefitted us enormously.

cool, now make if affordable and do it to orbit (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10406635)

I am glad they are a go! Best wishes to all involved.

It is about time that we had someone other than Government make it to space. This should open up the market! Now, if they can just make this afforable to those of us who can't afford 100K or so...

Hope they go for the $50M prize for a vehicle that will house 5 to/from orbit....

Other competitors (5, Interesting)

UncleJam (786330) | more than 9 years ago | (#10406636)

If SpaceShipOne reaches the 100km mark on Monday, will the other competitors just give in, or will they too try to prove that they have the design and technology to reach space? Even if SpaceShipOne did not launch Oct. 4th, would anybody even be close enough to take advantage of this? (Hoping that any failure of the SSO mission would not result in casulties)

Re:Other competitors (4, Interesting)

idontgno (624372) | more than 9 years ago | (#10406770)

I've wondered about this myself. There are a lot of teams, full of talented folks and brilliant ideas. The spur of competition (and a big purse) has been excellent, but what happens when that goes away? Are the other efforts going to dry up, or will they perhaps find other funding in the attempt to survive as a commercially-viable endeavor?

It's kind of a shame, isn't it, that money keeps coming into it. But this rocket science stuff gets expensive. I just hope some of the really cool technology being looked at now finds whatever it takes to keep going. I really don't want to get stuck with just one type of commercial spacecraft, the same way we (in the US) has been stuck with only one type of government manned spacecraft. (Which has been the case, with the recent exception of buying flight time from the Russians.)

Re:Other competitors (2, Insightful)

cmowire (254489) | more than 9 years ago | (#10407070)

Well, the next one to get a launch vehicle working will be able to compete with SpaceShipOne for the real payoff -- commercial spaceline companies. Especially if they can do it for less money, safer, or better.

Re:Other competitors (4, Informative)

zx75 (304335) | more than 9 years ago | (#10406783)

The Canadian DaVinci project has already stated that they are a couple weeks from launching, so if SpaceShipOne for some reason is unable to complete its bid for the X-prize in the next 2 weeks there is a possibility it could occur.

In addition, they have stated that they will be proceeding with the launches regardless of whether the SpaceShipOne project succeeds in claiming the prize or not. Their goal is to prove that they can do it, even if they don't win the prize.

Re:Other competitors (1)

Bastian (66383) | more than 9 years ago | (#10406788)

What I'd like to see is several of these teams going back to the drawing board to refine their plans. It seems that a couple of the X-prize teams made some sub-optimal design decisions purely because they wanted to get their product out the door as quickly as possible, and all of them would need improvements to work as safe commercial transportation. Even SpaceShipOne, while being leaps and bounds ahead of the other teams' vehicles, is clearly not ready for regular use.

Re:Other competitors (2, Informative)

cly (457948) | more than 9 years ago | (#10406792)

According to Wikipedia, da Vinci Project was planning to make its first competitive flight on Oct 2, but has to delay. So at least someone is close.

Re:Other competitors (3, Informative)

Kallahar (227430) | more than 9 years ago | (#10406802)

At the last launch, the X-Prize Foundation announced that they will be continuing the $10 mil prize every year, which will allow other teams to win the prize and give several different designs to the world.

Re:Other competitors (4, Insightful)

deathcloset (626704) | more than 9 years ago | (#10406821)

surely the other teams will continue to test their spacecraft.

Especially as we now have the 50mil prize being offered for orbital flight.

Sadly, these flights won't nab them that nice 10mil, but futher tests will certainly yield data that will help those who wish to pursue orbit (and I'm certain at least some do) in the development of thier orbital spacecraft.

Furthermore, just because Rutan wins the prize and is first doesn't mean that he's developed all the best technology for private spacecraft.

It seems likely that just the effort should yield some valuble research and technologies (which they might just sell to virgin galactic or scaled composites).

It's too big an investment to just toss a spaceship in the trashbin.

Re:Other competitors (3, Insightful)

TrippTDF (513419) | more than 9 years ago | (#10406974)

They had better keep going... Number 1: They have all thrown tons of time/money into it. Number 2: This is JUST the first step. The X Prize was to kick the Private sector into gear and start a competition... it's not like the X Prize guys said "Hey Burt! We'll give you, and only you, $10 Mil to get to space!" No, they wanted to see copmetition. And not that competition is going to move into the investor market... Virgin made their stake in Scaled, and now that's going to make others kick in to onto the other competitors... Like with any new market, people will throw a ton of money into it, there will be a ton of new companies trying to get their business off the ground (no pun intended)... Think Dot-Com bubble... only this one (hopefully) won't end up the same way. I hope that in 50 years, the X-Prize is remembered as well as Scaled and SSO will be.

Re:Other competitors (1)

robi2106 (464558) | more than 9 years ago | (#10407096)

I don't think it can be dot-com like. For one, there is a real product to deliver with measurable results. Not just hits and banner add revenue. You can't fake a space product, but you can fake a company whos deliverable is infinitely elastic in supply.

jason

More prizes (1)

sbowles (602816) | more than 9 years ago | (#10407006)

One way to ensure that others would keep working on their innovative solutions would be to add 2nd and 3rd place prizes.

The guys from da Vinci have always said that the real money is in the post X-Prize contracts (i.e. Virgin Galactic [virgingalactic.com]). Having the additional prizes would help keep the focus of the design teams, the money of the sponsors, and the media's attention on the race.

Let's Hope So... (1)

Saeed al-Sahaf (665390) | more than 9 years ago | (#10407113)

Considering the wackiness factor of many of the other "competitors", I think that many will take this opportunity to exit the competition. I don't really mean this as a troll, but honestly, people, but one of these rockets already blew up on launch, and from what I've seen, most if not all the other "competitors" just don't have the R and D resources to pull off anything but a semi-spectacular fatality.

I would like to have a flight! (1)

karma78ready (660119) | more than 9 years ago | (#10406638)

..And I hope I will be abe to realize my dream in the (maybe no-so-nearest) future. But first, I have to change my job ;-)

That's hot (-1, Redundant)

Rupan (723469) | more than 9 years ago | (#10406642)

Only 4 comments and the server is already buckling under the load. Its been loading for 30 seconds and is only half done....

Re:That's hot (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10406774)

Should have scaled their server farm.

Its Amazing.. (0, Flamebait)

korthof (717545) | more than 9 years ago | (#10406658)

Well hell.. we can now go to mars (a la bush) if we could just get that pesky crossenvironment biodome thing worked out.

Remind me why I would put my life in the hands of people, when we still cant account for cross programs breaking code.

"Why did the airlock fail? Someone flushed the toilet Sir."

Improvements? (3, Interesting)

ppz003 (797487) | more than 9 years ago | (#10406672)

I think it will be interesting to see how well they can repeat or even improve on the last flight. Or will they try to run an exact repeat?

Basically, how safe and sound are their methods?

Robust design (5, Informative)

mdp1173 (815076) | more than 9 years ago | (#10406843)

Actually, the method SpaceShipOne uses to re-enter the atmosphere is pretty robust and safe. Most times, entry vehicles use a blunt end - think the bottom of the Apollo capsule - to slow down through a process called 'aerobraking'. If a vehicle starts to spin rapidly during that time, bad things happen. SSO can enter the atmosphere in any orientation - nose down, nose up, sideways - and it will be OK because of it's back wing surface. In an orientation the Scaled guys call "feathering" the back end flips up 90 degrees in a high drag configuration. This forces the nose into the atmosphere at the right angle, so spinning isn't a vehicle loss issue Still, you go a lot slower re-entering from a suborbital flight than an orbital speed re-entry a la Columbia circa 2003

Slashdotted! (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10406677)

I hope that SpaceshipOne can handle the atmosphere better than Scaled's serves can handle /.!

Media Coverage (5, Insightful)

Plocmstart (718110) | more than 9 years ago | (#10406680)

It'll be interesting to see how the media covers any potential problem that occurs this time. They hyped up the whole roll situation like it was the end of the world, even after he safely made it back down (a majority of the questions asked of him were about the unexpected roll). Gotta love how reporters constantly repeat nearly the same question when they don't really understand the situation....

Re:Media Coverage (1)

timeOday (582209) | more than 9 years ago | (#10407005)

Well, what was the situation with the rolls? Mr Rutan said that there was something special about his design that made the incident recoverable, and that the Shuttle would have been lost in the same situation. Based on that, it doesn't sound minor. But I have no idea what he really meant (maybe that Melville saved the craft by disengaging the rockets, which the shuttle's solid boosters cannot do?)

So what was the scoop with the rolls, and why are they not problem enough to delay a retry?

Re:Media Coverage (4, Insightful)

ctwxman (589366) | more than 9 years ago | (#10407099)

The roll showed inherent design problems with this particular spacecraft. No one seriously believes Mike Melville mistakenly kicked it into the corkscrew. Now that they have commercial contracts to carry passengers (with Richard Branson) spinning is not good for business. Dick Rutan will find a way to have this craft go up once more, a new (modified) design will be built which fixes this instability and SpaceShipOne will go to the Smithsonian before it hurts anyone. I can't commend Rutan's team enough, but this is an experimental craft in a rush to fly. There will be problems - that's why a test pilot was at the controls. The press (where I work) has a right and obligation to question this part of the flight. Rutan already has PR specialists to slavishly praise.

Re:Media Coverage (5, Funny)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 9 years ago | (#10407125)

a majority of the questions asked of him were about the unexpected roll

Media: "Can you please comment on the repeated rolls in which you kept rolling around and around and around in a dizzying, girating, spiraling, stomach-spinning fashion as if it would never end?" (making spinning hand-gestures)

Pilot: "Bwwaaaaarrrrrf" (splat)

Video mirrors (4, Informative)

Rupan (723469) | more than 9 years ago | (#10406684)

I have to go out right now, but when I return (soon) I will have the videos mirrored on my website here: http://www.css-auth.com/ss1/ Perhaps within the hour.

Holiday snaps? (3, Funny)

bludstone (103539) | more than 9 years ago | (#10406686)

Could be taken on a holiday.

Photographs, ey? He asked him knowingly... ..but still.. WOOOAAAHHHhhh

The other X-Prize contestants (-1, Redundant)

LordZardoz (155141) | more than 9 years ago | (#10406734)

Will a successful attempt by scaled composites mean that the other X-Prize contenders will just walk away from it, or will they go ahead anyway?

END COMMUNICATION

Re:The other X-Prize contestants (2, Interesting)

Animats (122034) | more than 9 years ago | (#10406835)

Well, after the Gossamer Condor won the Kremer Prize, and the Gossamer Albatross flew the English Channel on pedal power, everyone else pretty much gave up.

It was flying the English Channel that did it. Nobody else could even fly the Kremer course (a one-mile or so figure 8), and then the group did the English Channel.

Mike Melville rolled it on purpose! (2, Interesting)

mark99 (459508) | more than 9 years ago | (#10406759)

That is what I think. He even said he thought it was kinda cool.

I think he just wanted to say "Yehaa...".

Re:Mike Melville rolled it on purpose! (1)

rabel (531545) | more than 9 years ago | (#10406800)

This guy has some huge nuts! If you haven't seen the video, you gotta check it out.

Re:Mike Melville rolled it on purpose! (3, Interesting)

Nick Driver (238034) | more than 9 years ago | (#10406931)

You're not the only one suspecting that he did intend to perform a one or two turn roll... and that the roll turned out to be vastly more intense than he bargained for... maybe due to the lack of atmospheric friction against the aircraft in the roll. A little control input perhaps goes a loooooong way in this craft, once beyond the point where there is no more atmospheric drag.

Have we heard anything official... (3, Interesting)

MarcoAtWork (28889) | more than 9 years ago | (#10406761)

about what exactly caused the roll last time? Given that now they had time go to through the telemetry data one assumes they would know for sure exactly what happened: did they make the info public?

Re:Have we heard anything official... (4, Informative)

m_member (771187) | more than 9 years ago | (#10406834)

I think it was announced that it was wind shear which caused the roll on the first flight.

Bransons space adventure (2, Interesting)

hsmith (818216) | more than 9 years ago | (#10406763)

Branson is only funding his Virgin space ship line becuase he wants 2 hour flights from Australia to london instead of 20+ hour flights :o

With $10 million... (1)

Genjurosan (601032) | more than 9 years ago | (#10406804)

Perhaps they could spend a few thousand to get a few new servers to handle the traffic.

/. effect in T-minus 5....4....3....2....

I wonder... (3, Insightful)

Pig Hogger (10379) | more than 9 years ago | (#10406819)

Almost 50 years ago, the X-15 basically had the same capabilities as Spaceship One's.

What were the development costs of the X-15 program???

I heard that the X-15 cost $5 million dollars (1)

TXP (592446) | more than 9 years ago | (#10406877)

But when you factor in those $1 million dollar hammers they used the cost grows to 1 billion.

Re:I wonder... (3, Funny)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 9 years ago | (#10407148)

What were the development costs of the X-15 program???

60 bucks and a couple of Jiffy-pop packages.

it's a little known secret that when you expose a Jiffy-pop package to microwave energy it's resulting expansion act's like a very powerful rocket.

The military took advantage of that side effect and used it to win a bar bet against the German V-II rocket engineers who said that they could not make it to space on popcorn power.

It's amazing what you discover about history using the freedom of information Act.

For when the site gets slashdotted. (2, Informative)

Avtar (413895) | more than 9 years ago | (#10406845)

Re:For when the site gets slashdotted. (1)

787style (816008) | more than 9 years ago | (#10406932)

It does little good to cache the HTML, the video download is what is causing the server to choke.

It's off-topic, mod me down (1)

The-Bus (138060) | more than 9 years ago | (#10406933)

But that mirrordot site has to be in competition with games.slashdot.org and it.slashdot.org for worst colors. Good grief.

Where is the test being held? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10406860)

I'm in AZ and would certainly drive to CA to see this. Is this out of the Mohave Airport?

What I'd love to see... (0, Redundant)

IgLou (732042) | more than 9 years ago | (#10406871)

Is a good shot of the re-entry. I want so bad to see those wings actually fold up, that's too cool!
Anyone else out there who find it almost anime-esque?

BitTorrent download (5, Informative)

TheSHAD0W (258774) | more than 9 years ago | (#10406898)

Download video via BitTorrent at X-Prize-flight-1.wmv.torrent [degreez.net]

Re:BitTorrent download (1)

tilk (637557) | more than 9 years ago | (#10407101)

Thanks. Looks like BitTorrent is the ultimate anti-slashdotting cure ;)

Re:BitTorrent download (1)

FrostedWheat (172733) | more than 9 years ago | (#10407136)

Is it just me, or does every video from the Scaled Composites website crash mplayer and xine?

Or is my mplayer broken? (from freshrpms)

I thought they had to carry 3 people? (1)

js3 (319268) | more than 9 years ago | (#10406980)

wasn't the point of the x-prize to carry 3 people of similar body weight into space in a span of two weeks? I may be wrong but haven't they only been carrying one person all this time?

Or 1 + equivalent weight (1)

mr_rangr (311899) | more than 9 years ago | (#10407042)

Their choice. They chose one live pilot, plus the weight of two people made up of trinkets provided by the ground crew.

Re:Or 1 + equivalent weight (1)

smharr4 (709389) | more than 9 years ago | (#10407132)

They could put tickets for the additional two seats up on eBay... Even if they didn't win the $10M X Prize, they'd get a substantial chunk of change insanely rich millionaires wanting to be the first passengers.

Although... They'd have to not touch anything... Can you imagine Mike Melville telling his two passengers to stop touching buttons every few seconds?

Re:I thought they had to carry 3 people? (1)

iabervon (1971) | more than 9 years ago | (#10407084)

They are allowed to use a pilot and two dummies with the right size and weight, rather than actual passengers.

Re:I thought they had to carry 3 people? (1)

PhoenixFlare (319467) | more than 9 years ago | (#10407091)

Read the X-Prize rules before making comments like that, weight equaling 3 adults is accepted in lieu of actual people :)

Hence why the first flight was the pliot plus ~180kg of ballast.

Re:I thought they had to carry 3 people? (3, Informative)

Thomas A. Anderson (114614) | more than 9 years ago | (#10407105)

They do have to carry 3 people, or the pilot and weight of 2 passangers (probably used sand bags).

BTW, Burt Rutan mentioned just after the last flight that he might be a passenger in the next one.

Come on guys, start caching stuff... (4, Funny)

Black.Shuck (704538) | more than 9 years ago | (#10406982)

...with FreeCache [freecache.org] or Coral [nyu.edu].

Or just make it Slashdot-policy to use the past-tense when describing off-site content, like this:

Before: "There is a very cool video..."

After: "There was a very cool video..."

Kind of pre-empts the whole /. effect, don't you think?

It would be great to start moving away from the whole organised-DDOS attack thing...

Live roll? (1)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 9 years ago | (#10407010)

Was anybody watching the live coverage when the rolling kept going? Did you think there was a serious problem at that time? It is different to view it after you know they made it down safely.

Love the video! (2, Interesting)

JUSTONEMORELATTE (584508) | more than 9 years ago | (#10407014)

I watched the webcast, but the Scaled video has some of the in-cabin footage. After Mike cut the engines, you can see him working to stabilze the roll, then as he hit the zenith, he grabs a digi-cam and starts taking snapshots out the windows.
Gotta love it!

--
Free gmail invites [slashdot.org]

./ed already (3, Funny)

trilks (794531) | more than 9 years ago | (#10407068)

From the site:

"(sorry slashdot.org visitors, overloaded...start a bittorrent feed?)"

How did they know we were coming?

Re:./ed already (1)

The boojum (70419) | more than 9 years ago | (#10407140)

Simple: "The next Slashdot story will be ready soon, but subscribers can beat the rush and see it early!"

I thought that message on their site was hillarious, personally. Clearly they have a geek running their server. It's good to see companies approve of mirroring/bittorrent, etc.

Re:./ed already (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10407147)

because the webmaster reads slashdot. ;)

And also when you try to load your own website and it takes 30 seconds to load the main page, this is the first place you look. Well, I'll post the torrent mirror link right now, that will help. There's three machines in a round robin, but the port only has so much bandwidth. :)

--Mike the webmaster

Lesson #1: Use FreeCache (3, Insightful)

Matthew Angel (745568) | more than 9 years ago | (#10407146)

- Videos -
Oct 01 11am - VIDEOS TEMPORARILY UNAVAILABLE (sorry slashdot.org visitors, overloaded...start a bittorrent feed?)

So instead of just everyone jumping all over their site directly, why not use FreeCache [freecache.org] first, especially when you know the video is 5.7 megs and it'll be popular...

(sig)^-1 ... is that sag?
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