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Web Search Garage

timothy posted more than 9 years ago | from the only-nipple-is-intuitive dept.

Google 98

honestpuck writes "As someone who lives on the wrong side of the world from the best sources of information and shopping I seem to spend a large amount of time online, and a large part of that in a search engine. Web Search Garage promises to let me 'Find it faster with less junk, less hassle.'" Read on for honestpuck's review of Web Search Garage.

For experienced net researchers and the search-engine savvy among us, the book may well not live up to the promise, though for a large number of 'net users out there it may be just the thing. Where Calishain's previous book, Google Hacks , covered one search engine in great depth in a fairly technical way, this book covers the entire topic of web research in a more friendly manner and language, leaving out the more technical topics of APIs and programming interfaces to spend more time covering advanced search syntaxes and off-the-beaten path search engines and directories.

Calishain has for quite a while written well-researched, informative articles on search engines and research for her weekly newsletter and website ResearchBuzz and the time she has spent on the topic and writing experience have informed this volume. She starts out with the absolute basics, the difference between a search engine (Google) and a searchable subject index (Yahoo) before going on to cover how to get the best out of each.

The book also covers a wide range of search related topics such as finding jobs, local information, multimedia or information about people and Genealogy. Almanacs, dictionaries and encyclopedia get covered. It's hard to think of something missing. Calishain has also taken a great deal of care with her topics. In the section on searching for drugs and medical information, for example, she stresses checking the reliability of your sources.

If you visit Calishain's site for the book at Web Search Garage (which redirects to the book's page at her ResearchBuzz site) there is a link to the table of contents and an example chapter. She also has two 'freebie' articles, 'Four Things Yahoo Can Do that Google Can't' and 'Seven Ways to Save Time Searching' that are further good examples of her writing and the usefulness of the content. She also has an offer for a free six-month subscription to ResearchBuzzExtra, her paid extension to ResearchBuzz.

This volume has gone for breadth instead of depth. That, and the low starting point should make it an ideal beginners book. Since I had on hand my daughter Jessica (a slightly tech-savvy twelve-year-old with a brand-new broadband connection), I lent her my review copy of the book. The response:

"This book is absolutely fantastic and I love it to death! I loved how Tara writes about Google and Yahoo and also about smaller search engines. By reading this book you find out how to find the exact information that you want. Also there are many websites in this book that are very helpful. To make the most of them I wrote them down then later checked them out on the internet. There are heaps of helpful sites for kids and heaps for all ages. Sites for fun and sites for information. I love that it is written as if Tara is talking to you and you are just reading instead of listening. It's a really cool book but if you are going to read it you need to know a little about searching the internet first. A really great book."

Jessica is correct about the language. Tara has written in a light, conversational style that lends itself to quick reading. At the same time either the writing or the editing has been quite tight, the information is packed in. This is a book that needs, indeed deserves, a second read.

The perfect book for the average web user who wants to improve his research skills. I'd put this one in the Christmas stocking for all those people who are getting a new computer or a new broadband connection. That's not to say that the more technical savvy will find nothing in this book, so if you give a copy to someone, either read it first or borrow it back -- you may find it worth enough to get your own copy.


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first post bitches (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10433780)

first post bitches! :D :D

Chapter 1: (5, Funny)

Neil Blender (555885) | more than 9 years ago | (#10433787)

http://google.com

The end.

Chapter 2: When Google goes down (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10434252)

Use Google's cache. Oh wait...

Re:Chapter 1: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10434274)

Unless you're looking for pictures of thumbs, that is...

Re:Chapter 1: (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10434355)

OMG Hi, I am a homosexual Google-zealot myself. I especially enjoy using my Gmale account to get to know young pimply-faced nerds to have intimate encounters.

Sounds like a good gift... (1)

lawngnome (573912) | more than 9 years ago | (#10433801)

Im thinking about ordering a copy of this book for my mom, she loves shopping and such, but isnt very search engine savvy, good stuff.

My review: (-1, Troll)

stratjakt (596332) | more than 9 years ago | (#10433804)

Book Title: Honestpuck: Pure Faggotry
Subtitle: From n'Sync to 'emerge sync'
Publisher: Roland Piquipilles blog

Summary: What a homo, eat a dick and die. Why does slashdot not report on any cool tech anymore? Whats a "interweb for dummies" book doing reviewed here? What the fuck is with Honestpuck and that piquepille guy, are they giving the editors cash or head or both?

Re:My review: (0, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10433938)

Although this is a Troll by any measure, damned if it isn't also +5 Speaking The Painful Truth.

What is up with this non-review? "I let my daughter review it! Tee-hee!"

Google hacks a better option... (4, Informative)

Chuck Bucket (142633) | more than 9 years ago | (#10433811)

With everyone and their brother developing a seach portal (or an online music store) I think it's a far better ideal to lean how to use Google; you countries locale and/or the Google Hacks book. Really, there's not much I haven't been able to do/find with Google.

CB&(*@#$

Re:Google hacks a better option... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10433966)

Google is weak. Anyone who knows search and is in the tech industry knows that Clusty.com - BLOWS google.com away.

I trashed my gogle bookmark. Now that they are public and the heat is on to become profitable, they will wither away like all the old time quality search engines who were forced to face their shareholders. Gmail? a Web browser? and google news is stuck in beta last 2 years because they can't legally or commercially(Ads) display the news they are scraping.

Cya Google, it was nice knowing you when you were cool...

Re:Google hacks a better option... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10434212)

I just tried your clusty and well, its not as fast as google for me. Plus I hate to say it, google has been through enough trials for me to trust it, and until otherwise will be my search engine of choice.

Thats what you call dedication to something that works.

Re:Google hacks a better option... (1)

slarshdot (211836) | more than 9 years ago | (#10436706)

I dont know how u came up with "BLOWS google away"?

It seems ok, slower than google and the design could do with a lot of work!!

Re:Google hacks a better option... (5, Interesting)

Stuart Gibson (544632) | more than 9 years ago | (#10434169)

Do you know any good way to search for a review of a piece of electrical equipment by model number and not get 20 pages of links to price comparison sites?

If I could get that in Google again I'd be happy.

Stuart

Re:Google hacks a better option... (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10434358)

Search: ModelXYZ123 -price -sale -shopping -cart

Those "-" symbols subtract any pages with those words. Try those and different words to cut down your search returns.

Re:Google hacks a better option... (1)

bogie (31020) | more than 9 years ago | (#10434699)

Interesting but still that still leaves a lot to be desired and doesn't account for the fact that almost every real review site has a pricelist on it somewhere. For consumer electronics and computer parts your going to first get the "big" review sites reviews, and then a bunch of fake store fronts which all lead you to Amazon.com. Or even worse "be the first to review this product" eopinion type sites. Real product research has become total hassle for most people.

Unfortunately all of the "-'s" in the world can't fix google now that its been ruined by marketers of consumer electronics.

Re:Google hacks a better option...-my google fix (5, Interesting)

iamcf13 (736250) | more than 9 years ago | (#10436188)



Unfortunately all of the "-'s" in the world can't fix google now that its been ruined by marketers of consumer electronics.


It's quite simple really....

Since Google appears to be nearing their 4GB page index limit, do this:

Delete ALL (YES *ALL*) indexed webpages except the homepage.

Example:

Why index:

http://www.example.com/
http://subdomain.exampl e.com/
http://www.example.com/thispage/
http://w ww.example.com/thatpage/

When all you really need to index is just:

http://www.example.com/

Added to that, Google has already been 'spamdexed' by online retailers -- 'about 1,650,000 pages' indexed by Google from one particular online retail giant's domain alone!

This approach will also kill off all pages like this:
http://www.example.com/~ispcustomer/

and make it harder, for example, to find useful info in a particular labyrinthine website I freqent via Google on an ongoing basis as needed.

For the 'ispcustomers': if you truly value your information in such a context, buy a .com domain and point it to your webspace at your ISP or, better yet, host your info at the domain itself. End of story.

Then the next thing that could be done is to make it easy to report 'spamdexed' domains and 'link farms' so they can ALL be automatically purged from the Google database as needed. To avoid 'Joe Jobs', this purging does not extend to the domains listed on the pages hosted at the offending domains.

Problem solved.

It would be helpful if Google implemented these changes--if possible. If not, a brand-new search engine using these techniques above and some kind of 'PageRank' algorithm that is better than the one that Google came up with will become in part the fabled 'Google-killer' as Google still has the assest of the 'entire' USENET archive dating back to 1981 if I am not mistaken.

Re:Google hacks a better option... (1)

vettemph (540399) | more than 9 years ago | (#10435196)

Your search - ModelXYZ123 -price -sale -shopping -cart - did not match any documents.
No pages were found containing "modelxyz123".
Suggestions:

- Make sure all words are spelled correctly.
- Try different keywords.
- Try more general keywords.
- Try fewer keywords.

Well, that was no help at all. :(

Re:Google hacks a better option... (1)

Neil Blender (555885) | more than 9 years ago | (#10434410)

Do you know any good way to search for a review of a piece of electrical equipment by model number

Try groups.google.com (of course, you will trade commercials for diode flamewars but you can get a lot of useful info.)

Re:Google hacks a better option... (1)

Toresica (788403) | more than 9 years ago | (#10434431)

Or to search for strings that include non-letter characters like ( and *.

That's the one thing I wish Google did better.

I'll use it until it is no longer the only search engine on the toolbar in Firefox, though. Convenience rules!

Re:Google hacks a better option... (2, Informative)

nathanliesch (716019) | more than 9 years ago | (#10434626)

You don't need to search from the default engine in Firebird. It's really easy to add additional engines from Mycroft [mozdev.org]

Re:Google hacks a better option... (1)

aminorex (141494) | more than 9 years ago | (#10435931)

For example, I punched 802.11a on vivisimo.com, and it gave me page-rank-style hits on the right, but (here's the good part) in a left nav it gave me a tree view:

802.11a (171)
Wireless LAN (46)
Wireless Networking (28)
Reviews (21)
Access Point (22)
Compare (15)
Solutions (10)
Dual, Band (8)
Antennas, Wireless Internet Radio, Amplifiers (5)
White Papers (8)
Router, Netgear (5)
More

Re:Google hacks a better option... (1)

tmalone (534172) | more than 9 years ago | (#10436353)

If I could get google to not mangle my search requests I'd be pretty happy. It really doesn't like to let me use '.' in my query. this makes it very difficult to find specific files or information on camera lenses (a 35mm lens with an fstop of 1.4 for instance). I'd also like to be able to search for product reviews again. I'm really tired of general review sites making it so high up in the ratings. I really don't care about what some jackass from Nebraska thought about a given product in 200 words or less. I'd rather read something more in depth.
I've gotten to the point where my bookmarks are so much more important than they used to be. When I find site with a lot of good information, that may not even be of use to me right now, I bookmark it for later use.

Re:Google hacks a better option... (1)

Ravendon (52608) | more than 9 years ago | (#10436928)

You could start the search from google, narrow it down to an e-tailer site like http://www.electrorent.com/products/search/browse. aspx, then once you find more information, redo your google search using the name of the part, rather than the specific model number.

Another good place to look is in Google Groups. Hope that helps.

travel information (1)

Trepidity (597) | more than 9 years ago | (#10435130)

Try finding travel information without stumbling on cesspools of inter-linked hotel-reservation or otherwise advertising-related sites. You can put whatever -bookings -reservations crap you want in the search, but you're still not going to get useful results.

Re:Google hacks a better option... (1)

rainman_bc (735332) | more than 9 years ago | (#10435136)

I agree. I wish there was a google moderator system like on Slashdot. That way you can mod down stupid sites -5 and mod up relevant sites.

Re:Google hacks a better option... (1)

hummer (15382) | more than 9 years ago | (#10435517)

Relevant for who though? That type of system would be begging for abuse.

Re:Google hacks a better option... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10435796)

Speaking of this, I'd never was able to retrieve a page that alluded to Little Red Riding Hood in an alchemych context. It was even here in /.
It ran something like the LRRH being some component (mercury?) and the time she spent on the wolf's belly as the time the concoction should spent on the oven.
Anyone remember this page?

Again... (-1, Offtopic)

Trolling4Dollars (627073) | more than 9 years ago | (#10433815)

...I must ask. What the hell is a "honstepuck"? It sounds a little strange. Which leads me to... what is a "honste" in the first place???

Re:Again... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10434052)

heh, even with your obvious username you made me check. well done.

yahoo's is slightly better in some areas (3, Informative)

dwgranth (578126) | more than 9 years ago | (#10433829)

google is great.. let me say that first. But, when you are looking for professional services, listings, and more commercial solutions to your problem, i find that yahoo does slightly better ( i still try to stick to google). that said, i hope google isn't trying to become more like yahoo... simpler is always better

Re:yahoo's is slightly better in some areas (1)

rainman_bc (735332) | more than 9 years ago | (#10435148)

Totally. Try finding a company called Liquid Snowboards on google and try finding it on alltheweb... AllTheWeb found it WAY closer to the top than Google. I had to give up after fifteen minutes of searching on google.

(their site was down, and nothing more than a flash page; maybe that's why google punted it off the search results though)

Re:yahoo's is slightly better in some areas (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10435687)

You mean http://www.liquidsnowboarding.com/ [liquidsnowboarding.com]? View source on that page and you will see nothing that relates to "liquid snowboards" except the pixels on the image. That's the problem of that company being stupid not to make their webpage more search engine friendly (not to mention that page has absolutely no content on it), not google.

Does the world really need this? (1, Insightful)

Anton Anatopopov (529711) | more than 9 years ago | (#10433855)

Surely google [slashdot.org] and altavista are more than adequate?

Re:Does the world really need this? (1)

khrtt (701691) | more than 9 years ago | (#10434241)

Is the reason for you not giving an altavista link that altavista doesn't exist anymore?-:)

Re:Does the world really need this? (1)

bvdbos (724595) | more than 9 years ago | (#10436943)

Sometimes I wonder.... What if google isn't as exhausive as it seems. Is there a world I don't know of who's pages aren't indexed by google... Is there another society I don't know of because I use google, another dimension so to say... And how to get there...

Quiz Time !! Help pls! (-1, Offtopic)

earthstar (748263) | more than 9 years ago | (#10433871)

Hi Guyz!
Iam taking part in a online quiz competition and found some answers with google.For some questions though ,googling didnt help much.Tried searchin for images ,but couldnt crack it.
So,thought you guys could help me out. ;-)
Thanks.
1.Whats the connection between these two pictures. [geocities.com]
2.Identify this brand of gun more famous in another context. [geocities.com]
3.RElated to the world of automobiles.What is this lady's claim to fame. [geocities.com]
4. This spider is named for the unique marking on its rear segment which is shown in the picture [geocities.com]. So, who is it named after? (Cryptic clue- Think of a nice sobriquet for Thomas Alva Edison's mom, though they may be more than one.)


Help pls! Iam burning my karma for this!

Re:Quiz Time !! Help pls! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10444601)

1) Arthur C Clarke, the red eye is HAL 9000 and the communciation satellite(both may even be from 2001: A space odyssey)
2)Gun it looks like a FN(Fabrique Nationale)FAL
3)That's probably Mr. Benz's daughter Mercedes
4)Spider no clue

amazing at the books printed.. (4, Insightful)

joeldg (518249) | more than 9 years ago | (#10433918)

it just amazes me that people need to buy a book to learn to type something into a search box and click "search"
you know.. idiot-proof something and yet there is still an entire industry out there for explaining the simple.

Re:amazing at the books printed.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10434130)

Not the brightest answer since very few people I know actually find what they want using Google at first. The fact is that Google works well for highly unambiguous searches (and searches that are disambiguated up front by the user adding discriminating terms). But that ability actually correlates with the verbal acuity of the user. Also, presenting ranked lists of results hardly ever works except for high precision searches. While precision is often very useful to answer a specific question, try trying to track down a linux installation issue where the information is spread across blogs and redhat and suse, and you can't determine which is the latest or most relevant answer. It's just keyword search, folks, something that has limited utility unless the keywords are just right and the answers are just so. This is old hat to the human factors people, of course.

Re:amazing at the books printed.. (4, Insightful)

Roadkills-R-Us (122219) | more than 9 years ago | (#10434160)

Nonsense. First, there's no such thing as idiot-proofing; a better quality of idiot will always show up.

But beyond that, what doe sthe average user do when confronted with "First 10 out of 12 billion", and the first 9 billion are all commercial sites, but they wanted to know how the thing works?

And the fact is that you can't find everything with google.

It took me a long time to give in to start using google as my default, but I still routinely use other engines. There are times when nothing on the planet works as well as altavista's advanced search. And times when yahoo is the answer, period.

I can figure this stuff out, no sweat. My kids can, too. My mom? She needs help. And my wife just wants it to work-- if she has to experiment to get something on a computer to work, she is not going to use it.

My mom and wife are far from alone.

Re:amazing at the books printed.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10434728)

Mastering search engines is an art. If you're trying to dig up something obscure, you'll need to be good at word association. It doesn't hurt knowing rudimental stuff about how the internet works either.

I've had a job where using Google was a large part of supplying customers with answers, and there's a big difference between those who know how to search and those who don't.

Re:amazing at the books printed.. (1)

lewi (806353) | more than 9 years ago | (#10435846)

Get Rich Now in your own publishing business! Just read search engine help files and drone and on and on about what the help file says and make big money blathering on about it!

But wait there's more! Included free will be the guide to Getting Rich telling people how to perform intuitive and obvious computing tasks. Act now!

"Web Search Garage" (5, Funny)

k4_pacific (736911) | more than 9 years ago | (#10433952)

Coming up on Web Search Garage, we'll be retrofitting this Google appliance with a snazzy user interface, chrome trim, a spoiler and leather seats. Stay tuned to Web Search Garage, right here on TNN.

THIS FP FOR GNNA... (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10434074)

ar0und return it

Dood (3, Insightful)

Yo Grark (465041) | more than 9 years ago | (#10434095)

Dood your daughter writes better than you!

:P

At first pass I simply refused to believe this 12 year old net savy (net sp3akin?) child wrote that blurb.

Are you sure daddy didn't help you with your assignment?http://www.kidsource.com/kidsource/cont ent/homework.html/ [kidsource.com]

:)

Yo Grark

My first conscious thought during the review (4, Insightful)

Roadkills-R-Us (122219) | more than 9 years ago | (#10434186)

His 12 year old writes better than the average senior in high school, unless daddy did some heavy editing. That girl should be writing books by the time she finishes her senior year. Perhaps she can write a textbook for high school English, _How to Write Better than the Average Ape_.

Re:My first conscious thought during the review (1)

MutantHamster (816782) | more than 9 years ago | (#10434732)

Yeah, because all us 'young people' cant write and were just so dum. You know just because mots kids my age type bad doe'snt mene were all dum. You slashdoters can be realy judgemental somtimes. Mabe if yu stoped beng so colsedmined yuo would;nt end up lookeeng liek a ideot on teh intarweb. STOOPID.

Re:My first conscious thought during the review (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10437087)

Behind every great writer is a great editor.

Re:Dood (1)

-kertrats- (718219) | more than 9 years ago | (#10434457)

dood, by no means is this writing style impossible for a 12-year-old; I was writing this well at 12 [although I was in 8th grade as well...]

Re:Dood (1)

kundor (757951) | more than 9 years ago | (#10435502)

What? I've known plenty of 8th graders who could write at least that well.

It was just a fairly mundane paragraph, and I assumed it was the dad transcribing an oral response anyway.

Re:Dood (1)

cookiepus (154655) | more than 9 years ago | (#10435973)

I believe that a smart kid could have written that. If a child read some review in such a style, she would be able to reproduce the style and apply it to the subject at hand. It's totally believable. I am sure that I was abled to write prose on that level at 12.

Americans have really low expectations for children. Do you expect a 12 year old to write "oh oh! I make POO POO!!!!!"? I don't think a British person would be too shocked to know that a kid wrote something like that.

Re:Dood (1)

mollymoo (202721) | more than 9 years ago | (#10437455)

At first pass I simply refused to believe this 12 year old net savy (net sp3akin?) child wrote that blurb.

I freaked out well before that. The guy reads /. and has a daughter. That means he must have, you know, had sex. With, like, a real woman. Kudos.

Re:Dood (1)

honestpuck (619842) | more than 9 years ago | (#10456130)

I am his daughter, my name is Jessica Mary Rose and I wrote that passage, on my own, EVERY SINGLE WORD. If I lie I'll drop dead and die!! If you simply refuse to believe it whatever, dude but I am most definently sure that my dad did not help me, AT ALL!! Anyways It wasn't an assingnment I simply wrote that blurb because I liked the book and wanted other people to know that!! I don't have my own log in so i am using my dad's!!

"Find it faster with less junk, less hassle"? Hehe (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10434193)

Obviously, they haven't visited MY garage...

No wonder this is in the "Books" section... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10434292)

... judging by the length of the description.

Web Search WHAT? (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10434295)

When I think "find it fast" and "less junk," the LAST thing that comes to mind is my garage....

Google my garage! (5, Funny)

uberchicken (121048) | more than 9 years ago | (#10434297)

Hell, now *that* would be useful. Where's the damn tyre pump? Have you kids had my screwdrivers? Where are the firelighters for the barbie?

I'd buy that for a dollar.

Offtopic...but in good will. Need a Gmail account? (-1, Offtopic)

jmcmunn (307798) | more than 9 years ago | (#10434371)


There are 45 Gmail invites up for grabs on my site...drop by if you still need one.

http://www.jiggybyte.com/gmail.htm

Re:Offtopic...but in good will. Need a Gmail accou (-1, Offtopic)

zoloto (586738) | more than 9 years ago | (#10434458)

I have 6 invites also. The first 6 to reply to this message with a funny "pun" will get one. =)

3. Make slashdotters beg
2. ??
1. PROFIT!

GO!

Re:Offtopic...but in good will. Need a Gmail accou (1)

ArghBlarg (79067) | more than 9 years ago | (#10434606)

I entered a pun contest once; I entered 10 different ones, hoping at least one would win. But no pun in ten did.

Re:Offtopic...but in good will. Need a Gmail accou (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10435925)

Reply to this with your email and I'll send u the invite, the pun was goood :)

Re:Offtopic...but in good will. Need a Gmail accou (0, Offtopic)

Fireflymantis (670938) | more than 9 years ago | (#10434727)

so.. desperate.. for gmail.... need gmail...

I'm not a stable boy but every morning,
I wake up a horse's ass.

google so good. all my other search engines
have run out of gas.

Re:Offtopic...but in good will. Need a Gmail accou (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10434741)

You will definitely get my gmail invite for that wonderful piece of prose. But please, give me your email address or I won't be able to send you an invite.

Re:Offtopic...but in good will. Need a Gmail accou (0, Offtopic)

Fireflymantis (670938) | more than 9 years ago | (#10434879)

assuming this is zoloto, i sent a e-mail to you with my current decrepid e-mail.

Re:Offtopic...but in good will. Need a Gmail accou (1)

Neil Blender (555885) | more than 9 years ago | (#10435125)

so.. desperate.. for gmail.... need gmail...

Perfect chore for google. Search groups for "gmail invite", sorted by date, email the most recent people offering invites. I got my account in less than an hour that way. Milage may vary. [google.com]

Re:Offtopic...but in good will. Need a Gmail accou (1)

Fireflymantis (670938) | more than 9 years ago | (#10435206)

but that would be something closley resembeling work... and we don't want that now... do we? a simple phunny pun and a free invite? who loses but good use of language!

Re:Offtopic...but in good will. Need a Gmail accou (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10437721)

I've got five I want to give away, no strings attached. hbarker at gmail.

Re:Offtopic...but in good will. Need a Gmail accou (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10438083)

I got 6, mail if you want them.

gmail at doc hyphen linux dot co dot uk

Really? (1)

portforward (313061) | more than 9 years ago | (#10434552)

As someone who lives on the wrong side of the world from the best sources of information and shopping
No WAY!! You live in Tucson too?

It changed my life (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10434672)

I used to be frustrated with the same old porn. Now I can find naked pictures of all my favorite women like: Janet "I'm on Top!" Reno; Madeline "All RIGHT!" Albright; Marget "They Don't Call me the Iron Lady for Nothing" Thatcher; and "Me So Horny" Nancy Ray-Gun!

giving as a present? (1)

mottie (807927) | more than 9 years ago | (#10435283)

so if you give a copy to someone, either read it first or borrow it back

If anyone has any good tips for not bending the hell out of a book so that its not blatently obvious that you've read it, i'd love to hear them.

Internet Search Classes? (1)

ConfusedMongoose (636679) | more than 9 years ago | (#10435620)

From the researchbuzz website for the book:

Are you an editor and need a review copy? Contact Heather.Fox@pearsoned.com . Are you a professor who wants a desk copy? Call toll-free 800-526-0485. Professors, please contact education(at)researchbuzz.com about having Tara Calishain "guest author" in your Internet searching class!

Are there really college level "Internet Searching Classes" these days? Is somebody really paying for a bachelors level education and attending courses on internet surfing?

Re:Internet Search Classes? (1)

kesler (576674) | more than 9 years ago | (#10436589)

Please don't disrespect my DeVry Degree! We work really hard and understand your boss more than you ever will.

Searchlores... (1)

dwheeler (321049) | more than 9 years ago | (#10436194)

Some helpful background on searching the net can be found on SearchLores.org [searchlores.org].

Re:Searchlores... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10438569)

Indeed,
all these books on searching matters, made quickly and just for commercial reasons, pale in relation to the deep knowledge given for free at http://www.searchlores.org (wher you won't find a single advertisement or banner to click... not a minor feat per se on today's web).
Warning: if you delve into searchlores you are in for a VERY long and hard knowledge trip. Be warned.

Confused! (2, Interesting)

miscellaneous_havoc (621991) | more than 9 years ago | (#10436370)

It took me a good 5 minutes to figure out this review was on a book, not an actual search engine. I thought someone was out to top Google!

google everywhere (1)

kmanq (818756) | more than 9 years ago | (#10452332)

A9 [a9.com] uses google aswell as MSN search, and others...they just take the results and format they for their needs...
http://a9.com/-/company/whatsCool.jsp [a9.com]:
The current list of searches (and their sources) includes:
  • The web (Google)
  • Search Inside the Book® (Amazon.com)
  • Images (Google)
  • Movies (Internet Movie Database)
  • Reference (definitions, encyclopedic entries and other topics by GuruNet)
Thus to promote what others have said...learn google, techniques for google searching will surely rule the web search world for long to come.
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