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this also linked to (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10456329)

Interestingly, it is linked directly to the ugly gene.

Re:this also linked to (-1)

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Re:this also linked to (0, Troll)

CmdrGoatse (800104) | more than 9 years ago | (#10456492)

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Re:this also linked to (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10456505)

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Immune (4, Insightful)

ThndrShk2k (805287) | more than 9 years ago | (#10456330)

With this they probably could make a vaccine or genetically engineer a "virus" that could prevent AIDS*The disorder caused by the HIV virus*

Re:Immune (5, Informative)

theparanoidcynic (705438) | more than 9 years ago | (#10456372)

I think that the existance of this mutation has been known for some time. The key is that it was only thought to exist in the caucasian population until now.

Re:Immune (4, Informative)

lucabrasi999 (585141) | more than 9 years ago | (#10456384)

From the article

"Before, such mutant genes were only found in Caucasians. The finding has encouraged us to do further research in China, with the aim of developing medicines to prevent and cure HIV/AIDS for different races,"said Zhu.

Sounds like some mutant genes have been found previously, so I am not sure if this will add any new information to the fight against AIDS.

China is now at a key moment in adopting effective measures to control and prevent HIV/AIDS as the disease moves from high risk populations to the general population, in most cases though sexual transmission, Zhu pointed out.

China had better be prepared for a potential disaster. Even if the presense of this "mutant" gene does lead to some sort of cure, it will probably take years to develop and test. In the meantime, China, along with most Middle Eastern and Asian countries, has a high risk of having an AIDS related disaster of a scope way beyond what we now see in Africa. We're talking tens of millions of people infected and/or dying all across the Middle East and Asia.

Re:Immune (4, Interesting)

Frogbert (589961) | more than 9 years ago | (#10456474)

Yes there have been numerious cases of prostitutes in South Africa being imune to the disease.

Re:Immune (1, Insightful)

boomgopher (627124) | more than 9 years ago | (#10456513)

China, along with most Middle Eastern and Asian countries, has a high risk of having an AIDS related disaster of a scope way beyond what we now see in Africa

Not being a racist troll here, but from my experience, culturally Asians seem to be a lot less promiscuous, which would imply that this disaster doesn't seem so imminent.


Lucky ladies! (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10456331)

Now they can mess around all they want, au natural, and not worry about dying!

Re:Lucky ladies! (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10456348)

Now they can mess around all they want, au natural, and not worry about dying!

Except from all the other potentially fatal STDs you can catch.

Re:Lucky ladies! (5, Insightful)

Mr.Sharpy (472377) | more than 9 years ago | (#10456366)

Now they can mess around all they want, au natural, and not worry about dying!

Indeed! Now all they have to worry about is...
Gohnorrea
Herpes
Chlamydia
Syphillis
Ge nital Warts
HPV
Hepatitus
Trichomoniasis
and more! Lucky bitches...

Re:Lucky ladies! (4, Informative)

Lord Kano (13027) | more than 9 years ago | (#10456463)

Indeed! Now all they have to worry about is...
Gohnorrea
Herpes
Chlamydia
Syphillis
Ge nital Warts
HPV
Hepatitus
Trichomoniasis
and more! Lucky bitches...


In order....

Curable.
Nasty stuff, but not fatal.
Curable.
Curable.
Nasty stuff, once again not fatal.
Nasty stuff, not fatal unless it causes cancer.
Possibly fatal.
Nasty stuff, but curable.

HIV is the queen mother of STDs, once that is out of the way, there will be a lot more au naturale love happening in the world.

LK

Re:Lucky ladies! (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10456383)

Unfortunately, there's still this particular virus called "pregnancy" that continues to cause abrupt stoppage of sex when performed au natural.

Re:Lucky ladies! (5, Informative)

lucabrasi999 (585141) | more than 9 years ago | (#10456404)

there's still this particular virus called "pregnancy" that continues to cause abrupt stoppage of sex when performed au natural.

Trust me, that abrupt "stoppage" usually lasts much, much longer than nine months...

Re:Lucky ladies! (2, Funny)

ErichTheWebGuy (745925) | more than 9 years ago | (#10456426)

abrupt "stoppage" usually lasts much, much longer than nine months...

Yup. Unfortunately, I can verify that.

Re:Lucky ladies! (0, Flamebait)

glitch23 (557124) | more than 9 years ago | (#10456481)

Up until God creates a new virus out of the blue to punish those who "mess around all they want" w/o any regard to values. Why else would a virus just all of a sudden appear out of no where? You think evolution causes this? Think again. Evolution doesn't start back at the drawing board to try again or am I wrong? It keeps going with what it has right? That's the whole point once things get going. Since I don't believe in it I'm guessing and asking all those people who seem to know all about something that is incorrect.

Someone call... (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10456333)

Someone call Marvel Comics, we have some new X-men candidates.

mirrored... (3, Informative)

boisepunk (764513) | more than 9 years ago | (#10456334)

Two women found with HIV-immune mutant gene
Wang Zhuoqiong
2004-10-01 05:17

SHENZHEN: Two women have been identified as carrying a mutant gene that is immune to HIV/AIDS, the first such cases uncovered in China, a researcher said.

The finding is the joint effort of a research programme, "Association of Human Genetic Polymorphisms with HIV Affections," jointly conducted by the University of Washington in the US State of Washington and local Infectious Disease Hospitals and medical institutions in Guangdong Province.

Tuofu Zhu, associate professor of University of Washington and associate director of the Clinical Core at the Centre for AIDS Research (CFAR), introduced the programme to China a year ago as a part of his global research in nations in Europe, the Americas, Africa and Asia.

"Before, such mutant genes were only found in Caucasians. The finding has encouraged us to do further research in China, with the aim of developing medicines to prevent and cure HIV/AIDS for different races,"said Zhu.

China is now at a key moment in adopting effective measures to control and prevent HIV/AIDS as the disease moves from high risk populations to the general population, in most cases though sexual transmission, Zhu pointed out.

Zhu said that setting up a research centre in Guangdong Province is appropriate as its population has made it the best platform for collecting diversified samples.

"With the largest mobile population in China, we can get samples from migrants who are from other parts of the country," said Zhu.

Since a greater number of patients infected with sexual transmitted disease in particular are reported in Guangdong Province, sample collections are more efficient than other regions in China, Zhu added.

So far, according to Zhu, his programme in Shenzhen has identified 11 Exposed Seronegatives (ES) since January.

Zhu explained that the immune systems of some individuals may be capable of resisting HIV infection. These individuals who do not appear to be infected with HIV despite multiple sexual encounters with HIV infected partners are referred to as exposed seronegatives (ES).

To be specific, any one who has conducted sexual activities at least twice weekly in four consecutive months with an HIV-infected partner might be identified as ES.

Of 11 ES cases, two cases have later been identified as carrying the mutant genes.

In Zhu's opinion, if medicine functioning similarly with the genes was put in the vagina and rectum, the HIV virus couldn't find its carrier to enter the human body and thus would be expelled.

In Shenzhen, both confirmed samples are women who have been exposed to HIV for many years but remained uninfected.

One of them, in her 40s, has kept a regular sexual life with her husband without any protection measures for nine years. Her husband, who was infected with the deadly virus by blood transfusion in 1994, was hospitalized in Shenzhen's Donghu Hospital in July last year.

However, due to the limited qualified samples, Zhu said it is still too early to draw any conclusion from the programme, adding "we definitely need more support from the local hospital, medical institutions and government to collect more data from ES people."

Re:mirrored... (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10456367)

I just tried the page and it was plenty fast, so this is obviously an attempt at karma whoring. Instead of giving him free karma for no effort, mod up this anonymous post instead in case of /.'ing. Article Text: Two Women Found With HIV-Immune Mutant Gene Posted by samzenpus on Wednesday October 06, @09:10PM from the super-soldier dept. Trokair writes "China Daily reports that researcher Tuofu Zhu has discovered two women in an HIV Research program that are immune to the disorder via a mutant gene." modest apricot (785620) modest apricot iceage2006@hotmail.com (email not shown publicly) Karma: Positive Related Links Compare the best prices on: Software/Utilities Trokair immune Science whitepapers Best deals: Science More Science stories Two Women Found With HIV-Immune Mutant Gene | Preferences | Top | 13 comments | Search Discussion Threshold: Save: The Fine Print: The following comments are owned by whoever posted them. We are not responsible for them in any way. this also linked to (Score:1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 06, @09:12PM (#10456329) Interestingly, it is linked directly to the ugly gene. [ Reply to This ] Immune (Score:1) by ThndrShk2k (805287) on Wednesday October 06, @09:12PM (#10456330) (http://www.thndrshk2k.com/) With this they probably could make a vaccine or genetically engineer a "virus" that could prevent AIDS*The disorder caused by the HIV virus* ~--~ Do not mind the one with the crazy, for he is sane [ Reply to This ] Re:Immune (Score:1) by boisepunk (764513) on Wednesday October 06, @09:15PM (#10456349) Let's just hope such a "virus" wouldn't be another welchia [symantec.com]. Hateful hypocrite [johnkerry.com] [ Reply to This | Parent ] Someone call... (Score:1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 06, @09:13PM (#10456333) Someone call Marvel Comics, we have some new X-men candidates. [ Reply to This ] mirrored... (Score:1) by boisepunk (764513) on Wednesday October 06, @09:13PM (#10456334) Two women found with HIV-immune mutant gene Wang Zhuoqiong 2004-10-01 05:17 SHENZHEN: Two women have been identified as carrying a mutant gene that is immune to HIV/AIDS, the first such cases uncovered in China, a researcher said. The finding is the joint effort of a research programme, "Association of Human Genetic Polymorphisms with HIV Affections," jointly conducted by the University of Washington in the US State of Washington and local Infectious Disease Hospitals and medical institutions in Guangdong Province. Tuofu Zhu, associate professor of University of Washington and associate director of the Clinical Core at the Centre for AIDS Research (CFAR), introduced the programme to China a year ago as a part of his global research in nations in Europe, the Americas, Africa and Asia. "Before, such mutant genes were only found in Caucasians. The finding has encouraged us to do further research in China, with the aim of developing medicines to prevent and cure HIV/AIDS for different races,"said Zhu. China is now at a key moment in adopting effective measures to control and prevent HIV/AIDS as the disease moves from high risk populations to the general population, in most cases though sexual transmission, Zhu pointed out. Zhu said that setting up a research centre in Guangdong Province is appropriate as its population has made it the best platform for collecting diversified samples. "With the largest mobile population in China, we can get samples from migrants who are from other parts of the country," said Zhu. Since a greater number of patients infected with sexual transmitted disease in particular are reported in Guangdong Province, sample collections are more efficient than other regions in China, Zhu added. So far, according to Zhu, his programme in Shenzhen has identified 11 Exposed Seronegatives (ES) since January. Zhu explained that the immune systems of some individuals may be capable of resisting HIV infection. These individuals who do not appear to be infected with HIV despite multiple sexual encounters with HIV infected partners are referred to as exposed seronegatives (ES). To be specific, any one who has conducted sexual activities at least twice weekly in four consecutive months with an HIV-infected partner might be identified as ES. Of 11 ES cases, two cases have later been identified as carrying the mutant genes. In Zhu's opinion, if medicine functioning similarly with the genes was put in the vagina and rectum, the HIV virus couldn't find its carrier to enter the human body and thus would be expelled. In Shenzhen, both confirmed samples are women who have been exposed to HIV for many years but remained uninfected. One of them, in her 40s, has kept a regular sexual life with her husband without any protection measures for nine years. Her husband, who was infected with the deadly virus by blood transfusion in 1994, was hospitalized in Shenzhen's Donghu Hospital in July last year. However, due to the limited qualified samples, Zhu said it is still too early to draw any conclusion from the programme, adding "we definitely need more support from the local hospital, medical institutions and government to collect more data from ES people."

Re:free gmail (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10456378)

Thanks, anonymous dude!

WARNING!!! NOT GMAIL INVITES!!! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10456380)

The links are just google redirects. I'm not even thinking about finding out what they redirect to.

Re:WARNING!!! NOT GMAIL INVITES!!! (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10456391)

It redirects to a gmail invite, moron.

Re:WARNING!!! NOT GMAIL INVITES!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10456459)

actually i had the displeasure of seeing what it redirects to: a GNAA [www.gnaa.us] page with a man who i guess is the goatse guy? having never seen the original i can only guess, but his anus was quite distended.

Re:WARNING!!! NOT GMAIL INVITES!!! (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10456402)

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Try this one here. It's broken in two places, so if you want Gmail, you'll have to copy and paste, and remove the holes.

Re:WARNING!!! NOT GMAIL INVITES!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10456437)

Nice try. It goes to GNAA last measure. Thank you Lynx.

If they were male (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10456339)

That would be a great pick up line. "Hey baby, want your kids to be immune?"

Great idea (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10456340)

Let's infect several healthy people with the virus - and make repeated attempts!

(I haven't RTFA, just making assumptions.)

Spontaneous mutation? (2, Interesting)

dzym (544085) | more than 9 years ago | (#10456344)

How much reliability is in this discovery? Is it being independently verified? Is China once again reporting something falsified as part of their inferiority complex?

On the other hand, if this is for real, how much chance is there for this gene replicating? Human evolution may be happening in front of our very eyes!

Are there any known negative effects from this mutation? I'm envisaging something like sickle cell anemia here.

Re:Spontaneous mutation? (5, Interesting)

allism (457899) | more than 9 years ago | (#10456360)

About ten years ago, I did volunteer work for an HIV-testing clinic. I met two men while I was there who were convinced that they were both HIV-immune. One had been very sexually active during the late 70s and early 80s and had had most of his friends and sexual partners die of AIDS-related causes, and the other had repeatedly had sex with multiple HIV-positive partners out of survivors guilt. Talk was just beginning around then of people who seemed to be immune to HIV.

It's not something I'd especially want to gamble on, though - HIV mutates nearly every time it infects, and at some point I think these people who are now immune won't be immune any longer.

Delta 32 (5, Interesting)

song-of-the-pogo (631676) | more than 9 years ago | (#10456424)

The main story and your post put me in mind of a particular episode of "Secrets of the Dead" that I saw, exploring the plague and its survivors.

I wonder if either of those fellows could have been carriers of the delta 32 gene, a mutated form of the gene CCR5:

"In 1996, research showed that delta 32 prevents HIV from entering human cells and infecting the body"

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/secrets/case_plague/

I didn't see in the article anywhere where it mentioned which gene was affected in the Chinese women, but it seems like to be a different one, based on the information presented in the "Secrets" show:

"O'Brien assembled an international team of scientists to test for the presence of delta 32 around the world. "Native Africans did not have delta 32 at all," O'Brien says, "and when we looked at East Asians and Indians, they were also flat zero." In fact, the levels of delta 32 found in Eyam were only matched in regions of Europe that had been affected by the plague and in America, which was, for the most part, settled by European plague survivors and their descendents."

It was a really good show and if you get the opportunity to watch it, I highly recommend that you do.

Re:Spontaneous mutation? (2, Informative)

spinlocked (462072) | more than 9 years ago | (#10456428)

Sounds like delta 32 [google.com].

If you believe in that sort of thing. The theory seems to be that it prevents the virus from binding in the first place. It has no chance to mutate, within the host at least.

Re:Spontaneous mutation? (0, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10456447)

Yes you are right. For years they have known of a handfull of people that are immune to the HIV. Some prostitutes who had sex with hundreds of partners some with HIV were fine. It perplexed doctors and still does. They also linked immunity in some northern europeans to a response to the black plague. Interesting stuff, but its been known about for some 10 years and still no cure.

Re:Spontaneous mutation? (1)

McNihil (612243) | more than 9 years ago | (#10456520)

I was under the impression that it takes 10 years to get to the finla phase AIDS in any case after one gets the HIV virus. So these could still be infected but the tests are not picking things up as it should. Bad testing that is all what it is.

Re:Spontaneous mutation? (1)

conan776 (723791) | more than 9 years ago | (#10456427)

>Are there any known negative
>effects from this mutation?

Well, unless you mean by "negative" that you can't die of the Black Death.

People forget that aside from killing a third of Europe's population, it also wiped out two thirds of all Mongolians (where some suggest the plague began), and a whole lot of their southern Chinese neighbors as well.

So, if the proposed link between genetic immunity to the bubonic plague -- which 5% of European descended stock still possess, supposedly -- and full or partial (carrier only) immunity to HIV is scientifically valid, it would be of little surprise there would be similar immunities in the Far East -- especially near a port city where the plague was mosy prevalent.

Re:Spontaneous mutation? (1)

chamblah (774997) | more than 9 years ago | (#10456471)

as the article states:

"Before, such mutant genes were only found in Caucasians. The finding has encouraged us to do further research in China, with the aim of developing medicines to prevent and cure HIV/AIDS for different races,"said Zhu.

This gene is not something that is being reported as being only found in China and only by the Chinese.

Also the article states elsewhere:

The finding is the joint effort of a research programme, "Association of Human Genetic Polymorphisms with HIV Affections," jointly conducted by the University of Washington in the US State of Washington and local Infectious Disease Hospitals and medical institutions in Guangdong Province.

So you can see from that, we (as in the US) have their own group of researchers involved with the project.

Woo hoo! (0, Offtopic)

ITWeeniesAreWorthles (551099) | more than 9 years ago | (#10456350)

BaBaBooie! First Post! Imagine a Beowulf cluster of these chicks! I bow down before these HIV immune women...

Genetics at work? (4, Interesting)

enforcer999 (733591) | more than 9 years ago | (#10456365)

Well, we are a very capable species. We will not die off easily. Aids/HIV are dangerous and deadly to us. It was just a matter of time before our own bodies figured out how to survive this virus. We have a good package to work with.

Just my first thoughts on the subject. I would like to know more about the study.

Re:Genetics at work? (4, Interesting)

jm92956n (758515) | more than 9 years ago | (#10456419)

It was just a matter of time before our own bodies figured out how to survive this virus.

I don't think that's exactly the case. HIV is only twenty-five years old, which certainly isn't enough time for genetic evolution to take place (especially considering the relatively slow reporductive rate of humans).

It's more likely they've an odd mutant gene that by coincadence makes them immune to the virus.

Re:Genetics at work? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10456438)

That is the first part of evolution. The next part is where everybody without this gene dies off. Then nobody can get AIDS, since they all have the gene. I propose we skip evolution this time and let science deal with it.

Re:Genetics at work? (1)

conan776 (723791) | more than 9 years ago | (#10456484)

So really the long term cure for AIDS from an evolutionary stand point is for everyone to have unsafe sex, and for the price of pharmaceuticals to enhance the infected's longentivity to go through the roof.

Well, for the most part I guess everything is going according to plan....

Re:Genetics at work? (4, Informative)

ashridah (72567) | more than 9 years ago | (#10456464)

"I don't think that's exactly the case. HIV is only twenty-five years old, which certainly isn't enough time for genetic evolution to take place (especially considering the relatively slow reporductive rate of humans)."

HIV is most certainly NOT only 25 years old.
It's extremely old, they have preserved tissue samples from almost 50 years ago or so that have been found to contain the virus (the subject died in exactly the same way as the first cases presented here)
(an english sailor died of a oppertunistic diseases, and after he died, tissue was preserved for later study.)

The event that has made HIV into a new epidemic is massive changes in social morality. Originally, HIV was called the Gay-Related immuno-deficiency syndrome or somesuch, because it was primarily affecting people who were outwardly gay.

Of course, it turned out that these people were just starting to be very broad in their choice of partners, and of course, people were starting to share needles for drug use.

ashridah

Re:Genetics at work? (2, Informative)

jcr (53032) | more than 9 years ago | (#10456477)

HIV is only twenty-five years old,

Well, that's not clear. The virus may have existed in simian hosts for a very long time, and may also have been contracted by humans many times before but not become epidemic. It takes more than contagion and virulence to make an epidemic.

-jcr

Re:Genetics at work? (4, Informative)

Raul654 (453029) | more than 9 years ago | (#10456483)

HIV is only twenty-five years old, which certainly isn't enough time for genetic evolution to take place.

Mutations happen all the time - 0.0000000000000214/nucleotide/generation according to these guys [nih.gov]. Now multiply that by 3 billion nucleotides in a human, and 70(?) days to replace all the cells in your body. Most of the time, the mtuation is fatal and the cell dies. Most of the rest of the time, it does nothing at all. Once in a while, you get a mutation that is actually beneficial. And once in a while, that mutation happens to occur in gamates, so it actually gets passed on to children. That's clearly what happened in this case.

Re:Genetics at work? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10456517)

It's more likely they've an odd mutant gene that by coincadence makes them immune to the virus. Isnt that what genetic evolution is all about? I dont think bacteria just decided one day that penecillin was bad and mutated to avoid it. The ones that happened to have a mutated gene survived and, without any other competition, spread like crazy.Presumable the same thing can happen with humans. If HIV kills off 70% of the population the few immune ones will be able to repopulate a world of HIV free humans.

Re:Genetics at work? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10456453)

We have a good package to work with

Ooohhhh, you turn me on. You can give me AIDS any day.

Virtual Light (4, Interesting)

Mark_MF-WN (678030) | more than 9 years ago | (#10456370)

Didn't they do this in William Gibson's "Virtual Light"? Yet another Gibson prophecy fulfilled.

Darn! (3, Insightful)

Temfate (753891) | more than 9 years ago | (#10456376)

That's just great, a cure that US Law will say we can't experiment with... Back to the drawing board...

Re:Darn! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10456442)

Well, that would be in keeping with bible-thumping prick GWB's stance on homosexuals.

"No you can't get married, and yeah we got a cure for AIDS, but you ain't getting it! Sinners!"

Not as interesting as it sounds... (4, Informative)

vossman77 (300689) | more than 9 years ago | (#10456393)

If you RTFA you'll note:
"Before, such mutant genes were only found in Caucasians. The finding has encouraged us to do further research in China, with the aim of developing medicines to prevent and cure HIV/AIDS for different races," said Zhu
So it is NOT a new phenomenon.

1 More Reason to Find Swedish Women Hot (5, Interesting)

craXORjack (726120) | more than 9 years ago | (#10456421)

I swear I saw a documentary on PBS about how a tiny percentage of mostly european descendants are immune and it was because of the Black Death (or Bubonic plague, I'm not sure that those are the same thing.) But googling for answers lead me to this article [healthfinder.gov] which says that 10-15 percent of northern europeans have limited immunity due to inheriting 1 resistant gene and 1% inherited the gene from both parents giving them full immunity. And Swedes have the highest percentage. Also it says the Plague is debunked and suggests the everpresent Smallpox as the culprit.

Re:Not as interesting as it sounds... (1)

saitoh (589746) | more than 9 years ago | (#10456436)

Bingo, one of the first generation members of the gay community in San Francisco has a similar immunity while everyone around him died (ok, cant remember a year old episode of tv, my bad).

Whats interesting is that scientists had found some connection to those who had a resistance/immunity to the pleague back in the mideivel times, as the above mentioned indevidual was from a family tree which did not become infected with the pleague.

If someone knows what program I'm talking about, please pipe up.

Re:Not as interesting as it sounds... (1)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 9 years ago | (#10456489)

one of the first generation members of the gay community in San Francisco has a similar immunity while everyone around him died

Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on your viewpoint), gays tend not to reproduce. Thus, such genes won't be passed on.

Which brings up another interesting question: If gays don't reproduce, why do they exist? I suspect because there were less freedoms in the past, and people had limited lifestyle choices.

Not really news (4, Informative)

ajna (151852) | more than 9 years ago | (#10456396)

HIV immunity has been reported in various sources in the past:

  • a group of Kenyan prostitutes [bbc.co.uk] believed to be HIV immune but no longer
  • the case of David Crohn [pbs.org] and others who lack secondary CCR5 (for macrophages) or CXCR4 (for T-cells) receptors and are thus resistant to HIV infection. NB: CCR5 and CXCR4 are believed to be secondary to the CD4 receptor, found on both cell types, in the HIV binding process.

The only novel thing about this discovery is that it was in Asians, vs. the Caucasian populations in which immunity had previously been reported (and I suppose African as well, even though the Kenyan prostitutes as referenced above turned out to not be immune). The article is pretty worthless, not even listing what the "mutant genes" are, but it's a pretty good guess that CCR5 and/or CXCR4 is involved.

Re:Not really news (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10456491)

Notice in the case above the cause of the immunity was missing CCR5 or CXCR4. So for those who say "hey look, this is evolution in process!", note that there's no new information here.

What a coincidence... (2, Interesting)

l0ungeb0y (442022) | more than 9 years ago | (#10456405)

How I was reflecting on Gibsons Virtual Light over my morning coffee this morning and now I hear about the mutant gene that practically fulfills Gibsons prophecy regarding the therapy.

Personally, I would undergo genetic therapy and have my chioldren (when/if I have them) undergo such a therapy if made available. I think this particular finding an excellent example of how far the field of genetics has gone and the promise it shows.
The flip side of course being the perils of falling into the Nazi idealism of creating a master race from a genetic template considered desirable.

Re:What a coincidence... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10456501)

of course, in Virtual Light, it was actually a mutated version of the HIV virus that attacked normal HIV instead of the immune system.

Re:What a coincidence... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10456504)

How I was reflecting on Gibsons Virtual Light over my morning coffee this morning and now I hear about the mutant gene that practically fulfills Gibsons prophecy regarding the therapy.

Thanks for specifying that you were having your morning coffee in the morning. I otherwise would have wondered if you were having morning coffee for lunch of dinner at an IHOP or Denny's.

immunity? someone should research slashdot (5, Funny)

taxman_10m (41083) | more than 9 years ago | (#10456416)

Lots of people immune from STDs here.

abstinence != immunity (1)

rmdir -r * (716956) | more than 9 years ago | (#10456431)

Dude... what percentage of Slashdotters have even had a chance to get an STD... We aren't different genetically we're different socially ;).

Not that everyone agrees it's a good thing...

Re:immunity? someone should research slashdot (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10456446)

hear hear.

slashdot motto: "if it's got boobs, turn and run away"

Conspiracy theory (1, Interesting)

IGnatius T Foobar (4328) | more than 9 years ago | (#10456423)

The most widely held conspiracy theory about HIV and AIDS is that they actually found a cure years ago, but Big Pharma makes more money selling the AZT "drug cocktail" than they would make selling the cure. An independently discovered cure would probably make everything go shitstorm.

It seems unlikely. (0)

jd (1658) | more than 9 years ago | (#10456425)

HIV mutates faster than virtually any other virus. Indeed, early vaccine attempts were foiled by the ability of the virus to "reactivate" itself, after being disabled. Because there's very little in the virus that is guaranteed to be common to ALL instances of said virus, it is hard to see how immunity could exist, even in theory.


Then, you have other problems. HIV is detected in a number of ways, but probably the most common way is to detect the antibodies to the virus. This causes an obvious problem. If your immune system is damaged, in some way, it may not be able to detect the virus and/or produce antibodies to it. Either way, any technique for detecting HIV through the antibodies would fail.


Let us assume, though, that these women were resistant to HIV. So much so that they could fight the disease and not even need to generate antibodies to do so. (Errr... anyone spot a problem with this? :) How would a body fight HIV? In theory, since we don't actually know in practice.


Well, HIV is believed to rely heavily on the body's immune system for transport. The white blood cells that attack the initial infection are hijacked and are used to carry the virus through the rest of the body. The immune system collapses, eventually, because it ends up not only fighting the virus, it is also busy fighting itself. It's extremely nasty.


The only way to be immune, then, is for the white blood cells not to attack the virus, or even be in the area of it. The natural self-destruct system in the cells will eventually trigger. Provided the self-destruct triggers faster than the virus can spread, the body would be guaranteed to win.


In other words, you must have a pathetically weak immune system (or none at all), and your body's cells must be so fragile that any abnormality of any kind will destroy them instantly.


But if you're in that kind of shape, you're probably not going to live very long anyway, and your quality of life isn't going to be noticably better than those with the disease. In fact, it would probably be a whole lot worse.


But, hey, if that's what these two women want for their life, that's their problem.

Re:It seems unlikely. (2, Insightful)

Fulcrum of Evil (560260) | more than 9 years ago | (#10456465)

The only way to be immune, then, is for the white blood cells not to attack the virus, or even be in the area of it. The natural self-destruct system in the cells will eventually trigger. Provided the self-destruct triggers faster than the virus can spread, the body would be guaranteed to win.

Or, you could have white blood cells that HIV has difficulty attaching to. No attack vector means that HIV never gets a chance to do its work.

Re:It seems unlikely. (2, Interesting)

ender81b (520454) | more than 9 years ago | (#10456485)

They probably simply lack the necassary receptors (t-5?) on their white blood cells for the virus to attack. Probably nothing more than that - most of the vaccinness/treatments now adays are focusing on those areas since if they are blocked the virus can't attach itself.

Re:It seems unlikely. (1)

Hiro2k (264020) | more than 9 years ago | (#10456508)

Why haven't these two posts been modded up?? The parent's post would be correct for most things. But if the virus cannot attach itself, then it cannot propigate and those making the person imune. No matter how many times the viruses adjusts itself, if it can't attach then it can't work.

Re:It seems unlikely. (1)

No Such Agency (136681) | more than 9 years ago | (#10456516)

It's sad that the incredibly *clueless* parent post is modded +5 and yours is not... since you are probably correct and his knowledge of biology could apparently fit on a postage stamp.

I hope this is true (2, Interesting)

ShatteredDream (636520) | more than 9 years ago | (#10456434)

Growing up, not too long into adolescence a friend of our family died of complications due to AIDS. I was barely 14 at the time and it struck me how dangerous AIDS really is. For years people used to think that my having no desire to fuck around like most of my peers was that I was gay. Then occassionally I'd let slip the story about our friend it just floored them. The scariest part is that they could have had HIV at the very moment they were thinking, after my telling that story, "but that can't happen to me."

What really struck me was that we saw the guy only about 3-4 months before he died. He was about as healthy as I am now at 21, and I workout on a regular basis. Then a few months later, *BOOM* dead of complication caused by AIDS. The scariest thing about the disease is that you can go without knowing you have it until the last minute.

Re:I hope this is true (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10456494)

That's a philosophical issue isn't it? Would you rather know you're going to die or *boom* that's it?

Re:I hope this is true (4, Interesting)

TykeClone (668449) | more than 9 years ago | (#10456497)

Not to be harsh, but you can get the same thing with heart problems. I mowed lawns in high school - one afternoon I mowed the lawn of a little old lady. That night, my dad came home and said that she had just died of a heart attack. She looked fine that afternoon, but that night she was dead.

Same goes for any kind of cancer - it can insidiously grow in you until there's nothing you can do about it but waste away and die.

Probably going to burn some karma with those comments, but it's a terrible disease that they're working on. I hope they find a cure and kick its ass - same for cancer - but it's just another way to die.

This isn't a first (1)

will3477 (705414) | more than 9 years ago | (#10456443)

There have been people found before who should have contracted the disease who didn't. Basically they receptor that's needed isn't there or is damaged. I saw it on tv two years or so ago.

What kind of immunity are we talking about? (1)

jcr (53032) | more than 9 years ago | (#10456445)

Does it mean that they're not susceptible to the disease, but that they carry the virus, or that the virus can't invade their immune cells in the first place?

-jcr

There is NO HIV... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10456458)

Period

It is a complete fabrication of the drug cartel

Glad to know (4, Funny)

Teahouse (267087) | more than 9 years ago | (#10456460)

I'm just glad to know SOMEONE will survive if this thing ever becomes airborne. LOL! Three Chinese chicks and a guy in Aboriginal Australia will recreate the human race. Boy, is our species in for a ride!

wouldn't it be interesting (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10456467)

If the Chinese bio-tech and drug companies made some soft of vaccine to HIV and sold this cheaply to the third world. However they could charge the developed world thru the nose for it. It would be interesting to watch the governments who supported their drug companies charging being fucked by the chinese.....

so.. (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10456476)

In communist China, you kill AIDS!

The Plague (0, Redundant)

Mostly Harmless (48610) | more than 9 years ago | (#10456478)

I remember reading somewhere that this same mutated gene also rendered people resistant to the plague. Time to dig up the article.

Perfect 10s (0)

Doc Ruby (173196) | more than 9 years ago | (#10456482)

These two women are now the most eligible mates on the planet. Let's hope they aren't already in love... with each other.

Meanwhile, in the Gay Village (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10456493)

The sound of sloppy and dirty penises getting inserted into brown and stained anuses can be heard in every alley and filthy bar.

Cause vs. Effect? (1)

xanthines-R-yummy (635710) | more than 9 years ago | (#10456495)

So is there any proof any of these mutant genes are directly relevent for HIV immunity? How do they test that? Do they acttively give you HIV and see if you get infected? Could it just be a coincidence that the mutant gene shows up in people that are "immune to HIV"? Cause and effect are not the same as correlation.
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