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House Candidate Lets Web Users Set His Schedule

michael posted more than 9 years ago | from the simcandidate dept.

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brahn at actblue writes "From ABC News: Jeff Seemann, running for one of Ohio's seats in the House of Representatives, '...has an unusual approach in deciding how to spend his campaign. He asks Web surfers: Should he sleep in? Prepare for his debate? Campaign door to door?' (More coverage here and here.) Best of all: Jeff is fighting back against Diebold and their paperless voting machines -- and they're based in his district!"

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116 comments

here my idea (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10475871)

9:00am wake up go into bathroom, jackoff for the next 8 hours, 5:00pm pass out on the john.

I vote for (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10475874)

Sleep in, read slashot and surf for porn. I want someone that reflects my values.

Re:I vote for (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10476224)

On a related note, a site that documents anti-American activist Michael Moore's startling resemblance to a pig [mooreorpig.com] ,

Re:I vote for (2)

erick99 (743982) | more than 9 years ago | (#10476250)

That is very insulting to the pig.

Re:I vote for (2, Funny)

ndogg (158021) | more than 9 years ago | (#10476347)

Interesting, his name is Seemann.

OT Re:I vote for (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10477298)

Damn, you still have that include, all this time after I made fun of your little error. You rule.

AC to save karma, but you know who I am.

Looks like rush (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10475896)

limbaugh. Otherwise, he is OK

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Re:I'll make him read my trolls all day... MUAHAHA (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10476500)

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This is bound to work out well... (5, Funny)

Skjie (799104) | more than 9 years ago | (#10475905)

Because letting bored internet users make plans for you is always a good idea.

Re:This is bound to work out well... (4, Funny)

TykeClone (668449) | more than 9 years ago | (#10476079)

Not sure how much land area his district covers, but I could see it resulting in being sceduled at the four corners of the district in the same day. In a populous state like Ohio, that's probably not a big deal - think of how funny it would be in Alaska (where the entire state is a single district).

"Representive - I've got you scheduled for Juenau at 8am and Point Barrow at noon followed by one of the Kodiak islands at 3pm"

Re:This is bound to work out well... (3, Informative)

Peyna (14792) | more than 9 years ago | (#10476434)

His district isn't that small; but certainly not as hard to get from one end to the other as Ohio's 8th district would be: map [state.oh.us]

Actually one of the less gerrymandered looking district maps I've seen. 18 and 6 are the only suspicious looking ones. That and the fact that the district containing Columbus is split kinda weird (Franklin County). It's also curious to note that the part of Montgomery County that slipped into the 8th district contains almost soley Wright Patterson AFB.

Re:This is bound to work out well... (1)

TykeClone (668449) | more than 9 years ago | (#10476466)

I took a cursory look at his site, and the district didn't jump out at me (that's one thing that I've noticed on a lot of political sites - they say "I'm running", but not what for!).

Playing that kind of game with him wouldn't nearly be as funny as it would for the poor guy in Alaska :)

Re:This is bound to work out well... (2, Informative)

Peyna (14792) | more than 9 years ago | (#10476529)

In most states (Ohio included) you can find a Comprehensive list [state.oh.us] of almost every person running for office (with the exception of municipal elections).

From there, I've found pretty good success finding their websites and other information using Google.com.

Perhaps one of the best resources you can use in determining who to vote for is Opensecrets.org [opensecrets.org] .

This guy must be in a poor district, the incumbent has raised three times more than him, but that still only comes to $126,000. The difference in funds in the Ohio senate race is just disgusting. Although, I haven't seen a single Voinovich ad on TV; so what is he spending that 8 mill on?

Re:This is bound to work out well... (1)

TykeClone (668449) | more than 9 years ago | (#10476564)

Interesting stuff - thanks. I took a look at my district (Iowa - 4th district) and the challenger has only raised about $100K - but he has virtually no chance in winning in this district.

Re:This is bound to work out well... (4, Interesting)

Peyna (14792) | more than 9 years ago | (#10476493)

To see a more obviously gerrymandered district (which might just be because I'm more familiar with the state) look at Indiana's [in.gov] .

Every little "bubble" you see shooting off of a large district is a larger town that was stuck in the district in order to absorb the democratic votes from it. For instance, the northeast and southeast parts of Marion County (Indianapolis, mostly district 7) are included in the 5th district, which except for those areas, is almost all rural, or very high income (north of Indy).

Similary, the southeast side of Ft Wayne (very low income, heavily Democratic) is separated from the rest of the city.

The 4th district was drawn almost specifically to put Purdue and IU in the same district (very liberal tending towns, and most residents are younger and less likely to vote) and then lump them in with nothing but rural voters.

It's sad that part of the reason that Indiana sends so many Republicans to Congress is because the Republicans at home are the ones that drew the districts for them. (They packed as many democrats as they could into the 7th and 1st district, and spread the remaining ones around well enough to make them ineffective.

I think that congressional districts should follow cultural and economic boundaries as well as possible. That way, you have voters you have a vested interest in the same thing represented by one person. It makes no sense for a person in one of the poorest neighborhoods in the poorest city to be represented by the same person as that of the richest person in the richest neighborhood. (Southeast side of Indy and Carmel, respectively)

Re:This is bound to work out well... (5, Funny)

FrYGuY101 (770432) | more than 9 years ago | (#10476115)

I can see it now...

"Well, uh, first up, I have to go to a support rally for nazis, then I have to proclaim at a press conference "M$ $uX0rz, Linux r0x0rz j00 b0x0rz" (How do I pronounce that?), then I have to calculate Pi to the last digit, resolve an infinite loop, and build a quantum computer, after that I have to setup a free-porn website. Well, actually, I have to set up 1,283,948,283 different free porn websites, but I'll just set up one and tell everybody that recommended that one that it's the one they asked for..."

No kidding ... (2, Interesting)

gstoddart (321705) | more than 9 years ago | (#10476425)

Because letting bored internet users make plans for you is always a good idea.


What is this, the political expansion for the Sime or something? Other than a gimmick, I'm not sure what this gentleman hopes to achieve.

What will he do if he gets elected? Hold nightly cam sessions to allow his fans to tell him what to do and wear?

Just sounds all so wierd to me.

any angle (5, Insightful)

bone43 (688272) | more than 9 years ago | (#10475914)

its nice to see a new angle pop up every now and again, but if elected do you think he will still be letting the web votes run his time in office?

Re:any angle (1)

CodeWanker (534624) | more than 9 years ago | (#10476914)

Like any good leader, I bet he gets to say, "Your input is valued even when it's not followed." The Internet has such a lopsided sampling (and groups out there cruising for polls to skew ("Hey! Skew you, poll!")) that it shouldn't be consulted like this. I mean, the Internet works best when the individual surfers are the consumers, not the producers (as the always sterling quality of Slashdot discussions makes clear.) And, yes: I'm an elitist scumbag who thinks most people shouldn't be allowed to vote on anything, so anyone who wants to respond with that can save their keystrokes.

I'll be very surprised if he wins (4, Insightful)

SpamKu (809119) | more than 9 years ago | (#10475917)

considering how Diebold is in his district and will proably crush him with massive donations to his opponent.

If he is very good and genuine, he may stand a chance, but I wouldn't bet on it.

Nifty Ideas for input, though. And I can appriciate a man who stands up for what he thinks is right.

Why donate to his opponent? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10476026)

They control the closed voting machines that are full of back doors. They can hand his opponent the win.

jobs, not donations (2, Informative)

SuperBanana (662181) | more than 9 years ago | (#10476263)

considering how Diebold is in his district and will proably crush him with massive donations to his opponent.

As Walmart found with a small town in CA- when a corporate giant leans into the political process that blatantly, people get really pissed.

They won't have to do a thing- if Diebold has enough employees in the county, he'll simply loose because a vote for him will be turned into a vote for putting Diebold employees out of work. Happens allllll the time, and people are dumb enough to fall for it every single time.

Re:I'll be very surprised if he wins (1)

Sqwubbsy (723014) | more than 9 years ago | (#10476440)

Why are /.ers so anti-Diebold and 'paperless' voting.
If companies brought back paper, then they won't need data and storage on computers.
I just find this bastion of Ludditism surprising here.

Re:I'll be very surprised if he wins (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10476817)

Hey, if the non-Luddite, blue collared people realized what sort of hardships they, their sons, and their grandsons would be put through during and after the industrial revolution--living in company subsidized housing, in the company's little city, shoping from the company stores, working in very hazardous conditions for slave like pay, and never having the opportunity to get out of that rut--they'd be lots more cautious.

It's not that /.er's are luddites, on the contrary... In general we are inteligent people, and I would like to belive that most of us have learned from the mistakes of our ancestors. The attitude on slashdot is that of cautious progress. Many of the technologies of the 20th century (nuclear, bio stuff, computers, etc.) cause our society to be balanced on a knifepoint. Too far one way or the next, and we lose.

Let me ask you: Would you jump into a lake knowing it was full of fresh water sharks with friggin' lasers on their heads?

Re:I'll be very surprised if he wins (2, Informative)

flossie (135232) | more than 9 years ago | (#10477157)

Why are /.ers so anti-Diebold and 'paperless' voting. ... I just find this bastion of Ludditism surprising here.

/.ers tend to be technologically literate and therefore understand the large potential for fraud and/or incompetence to render elections pointless if there is no paper trail to audit the election.

BTW, Ludditism isn't really an appropriate description. The Luddites wrecked machines to protect their jobs. /.ers tend to be against non-paper trail voting because it is Very Bad For Democracy. Big difference.

GIMMICK. (4, Insightful)

Noose For A Neck (610324) | more than 9 years ago | (#10475922)

I don't really think any more needs to be said.

His website should be called (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10475927)

www.subservientcandidate.com :)

The Sims: DC (5, Funny)

marktaw.com (816752) | more than 9 years ago | (#10475928)

Are you sure this isn't just a plug for the next Maxis game?

Re:The Sims: DC (3, Funny)

RatBastard (949) | more than 9 years ago | (#10476155)

We'll know if we can make him woohoo with his wife in a changing booth at a clothing store.

Uh-oh (4, Funny)

HungSquirrel (790165) | more than 9 years ago | (#10475934)

Best of all: Jeff is fighting back against Diebold and their paperless voting machines -- and they're based in his district!

He's doomed.

Re:Uh-oh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10476512)

DOOMED!!!

Re:Uh-oh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10477050)

DOOMED!!!

Redesign site.. (4, Funny)

maskedbishounen (772174) | more than 9 years ago | (#10475936)

Lose the flash. Lose the white on light-blue. Lose the red submit button. Lose the JavaScript.

And then Ramen noodles for lunch. Yum!

Re:Redesign site.. (3, Funny)

HungSquirrel (790165) | more than 9 years ago | (#10475959)

Yeah, his site has some tacky design. So does Slashdot, but I can still appreciate the decent content that crops up here once in awhile.

Re:Redesign site.. (1)

keesh (202812) | more than 9 years ago | (#10476081)

Decent content? And where, pray tell is that? Even the quality of the trolls has gone down hill in the past few years...

Re:Redesign site.. (1)

cos(0) (455098) | more than 9 years ago | (#10476926)

What do you think of this Libertarian candidate web site [myip.org] in terms of accessibility, taste in design, and content? I am its webmaster, and I tried to make it pleasant for the average Slashdotter, besides the expected audience. I'd like to hear feedback.

Re:Redesign site.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10477424)

Look here:

http://www.fsf.org/

That is the kind of web page lunix users like.

Re:Redesign site.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10477443)

Another thing, the spacing seems random between the links along the top.

At first... (3, Interesting)

Pantero Blanco (792776) | more than 9 years ago | (#10475946)

I thought this was a joke, especially after reading his last name, but it seems serious.

He's trying a gimmick, a bad one at that, to get elected. Getting "in touch with the community" doesn't mean letting them completely plan your day...

Gimmick yes, but bad? (4, Interesting)

Quikyn (808083) | more than 9 years ago | (#10476014)

"It attracts people to come and engage with your campaign in a way that is fun and interesting," Noble said.

I agree he's trying a gimmick, but is it necessarily a bad one? He's recieving press, he's getting his name out, and if he continues with schedules like the ones suggested in the article, he could make a very good name for himself.

No harm in him trying to make himself stand out from candidates that do sleep in, don't attend events, but have enough money to advertise their campaign to death. Don't communities want leaders that get involved rather than sit idly by?

It might not.. (1)

msimm (580077) | more than 9 years ago | (#10476233)

It might not be that bad of a gimmick. It really depends on his intentions.

Educating the public on what is involved in the political process would be a noble goal and could be done in this way.

The disconnect between the an {insert country name} politician and the public can't be helping to create a healthier democracy.

Voters (2, Interesting)

Eryximachus (819128) | more than 9 years ago | (#10475958)

Wouldn't it be nice if most of the voters in his district were slashdot readers. Then he might get a lot of the vote even while he was against a big company.

Jeff Seemann? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10475979)

is this [ohio-state.edu] our candidate?

if so.. just rub it all over my face..

Re:Jeff Seemann? (1, Funny)

Aardpig (622459) | more than 9 years ago | (#10476004)

is this our candidate?

What an appallingly-tacky joke. I hope you get your cum-uppance.

Mezonic Agenda Tie-in (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10475983)

How fitting that a story about a Diebold activist would be posted a few lines above the review for the election consipiracy book Mezonic Agenda: Hacking the Presidency [slashdot.org] ...makes you think...

Re:Mezonic Agenda Tie-in (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10477251)

yeah... just like this post makes me think that garcia is trolling this story too...

Re:Mezonic Agenda Tie-in (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10477304)

Feh! Not if your are leftist editor it doesn't!

Marketing (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10475985)

To me it is just plain marketing. For one side he gets info for his planning (which days he can gather more people at each place, etc.), even if it is biased (not everyone is connected to the web).
For the other, (and more important), he is doing his supporters more active (it is not just going to an speech, it is more participative) so they do more work (some old studies about media and politics showed that the message from the leaders was mainly received by their supporters, who where the ones in charge of, one by one, trying to convince the undecided voters -> P.F. Lazarsfield).

Wait a minute (3, Insightful)

b0lt (729408) | more than 9 years ago | (#10475987)

What happens when his opponent hires someone to use millions of proxies for him to drop out of the race? Or something similar?

Re:Wait a minute (1)

Peyna (14792) | more than 9 years ago | (#10476410)

Considering Ohio has less than 1 million people per congressional district, it'd be pretty obvious that they were not his potential constituents, and therefore for the most part, their opinion is insignificant to him.

Re:Wait a minute (1)

loyalsonofrutgers (736778) | more than 9 years ago | (#10476602)

His opponent is the same person that said that no one uses the internet. I doubt he even realizes that Jeff has a webpage, let alone how to go about messing with his poll. By the way, there was a nomination period for suggestions, which were then culled and added to a set of polls for the various time periods. They were for things like: "Go to plant between shifts and greet workers. Rest with family. Wave signs at street corner for visibility. Meet with college democrats." Etc. There were no "spit on Jesus statue" or "drop out of race" options.

I have always wondered... (5, Insightful)

the-matt-mobile (621817) | more than 9 years ago | (#10475988)

I have always wondered what would happen if one of our representatives hosted a web site that allowed people in his/her district to know what votes were coming up in Congress, how he/she is planning to vote and why, and allowed some informal polling and commentary on the issues. I know this isn't what this guy is doing, but I wonder if it isn't the logical next step. You'd have to think that that sort of system would be the ideal of a representative democracy, but alas I don't expect any career politician to actually document their position on everything and set themselves up to be held accountable to their constituency. Especially since if they ever run for higher office that sort of thing gets used against them.

Re:I have always wondered... (1)

TykeClone (668449) | more than 9 years ago | (#10476089)

Then you'd have an unscientific sample of people who may or may not be voters in your district.

Re:I have always wondered... (1)

Like2Byte (542992) | more than 9 years ago | (#10476290)

Right. The thing that really bothers me about this kind of setup is this: Whenever Diebold is mentioned the /. crowd seethes with anger over an imperfect voting system. Now, this story pops up and everyone gets all 'valley-girl' and says, "Ooooh, it's, like, so cool!"

We can't have it both ways.

It certainly has its merit; but, where is everyone's suspicion?

Re:I have always wondered... (1)

NetNifty (796376) | more than 9 years ago | (#10476365)

What is there to be suspicious about? The worst that can happen (as regards to this being "democratic") is that he doesn't do what the vote says.

He doesn't actually have any power currently as he is unelected, so he can't affect much, and in the worst way of it being abused (ie his campaign being sabotaged so he has a lie-in and doesn't prepare for debates) there is still a human element to check it.

Re:I have always wondered... (1)

Like2Byte (542992) | more than 9 years ago | (#10476682)

First, it disturbs me someone is not bothered by "The worst that can happen (as regards to this being "democratic") is that he doesn't do what the vote says." That's the whole point of holding an election: To get people into positions of power to enact change(s) that his constituents desire.

It really doesn't matter if he's elected or not. What's suspicious is what if he *does* follow the way his constituents 'vote' - which is to say, he votes the way his numbers are dealt to him per issue based upon the values reported back to him by his computer.

Let's say some criminal cracks his system and sets the votes the way Corp X wants him to lean. Let's say the actual populace in his district want something altogether different than what Corp X wants; but, because Corp X was able to hire some cracker to set the votes that lean Corp X's way, Corp X gets their 'wish.' That theory is what is suspicious.

It is *all* conjecture at this point because no one is doing this; but, let's answer the what-ifs before they are instituted.

Considering the above, does this not ring of Diebold? Is there not a way to alter the 'votes' such that it does not represent what the people actually want?

Re:I have always wondered... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10476978)

I think you missed the point about this being a campaign stunt you know, "not currently elected."

Re:I have always wondered... (1)

Like2Byte (542992) | more than 9 years ago | (#10477010)

From my previous post: It is *all* conjecture at this point because no one is doing this; but, let's answer the what-ifs before they are instituted.

I know the point. My point is let's raise our voice *before* something like this gets into the heads of elected officials (incumbents or candidates) before it becomes a practice we'll all bitch about after it's put in use.

Re:I have always wondered... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10477430)

Right. The thing that really bothers me about this kind of setup is this: Whenever Diebold is mentioned the /. crowd seethes with anger over an imperfect voting system. Now, this story pops up and everyone gets all 'valley-girl' and says, "Ooooh, it's, like, so cool!"

We can't have it both ways.

Why not? Diebold is one implementation. Hating that doesn't carry to all electronic voting methods.

Of course the chances of this being even as good are quite low... but it's possible to legitimately favor one electronic voting system and not another.

Re:I have always wondered... (1)

lskziq (778173) | more than 9 years ago | (#10477147)

This, or some variation on it, sounds like a great idea. Perhaps after this round of elections we should suggest just such a thing to our officials. Assuming that both sides (the representors and the represented) want improved communication it would be difficult to argue against providing basic information (e.g. upcoming votes and reasons for the position the official is taking). I realize that's one hell of an assumption, but I can dream! Do you know who your candidates are? At least find out there names: http://www.vote-smart.org/ [vote-smart.org]

Re:I have always wondered... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10477168)

The point would be not only to DOCUMENT his step, but to use the web to GET THE POLITICIAN DO what the majority of voters who he represent want him to do. In this case, not what we know, but what we did not know could be used against them.

Obviously not in the area of sleeping-in, but in the area of showing up at all important debates and vote on all issues, based on the request of his constituency.

While there, law should require that politicians should disclose to their voters all meetings with all lobby groups and provide public record of the minutes of those meetings.

Technology would permit even today, that verified members of the constituency would send in their "votes" on every single legislative item for their representatives. The "vote" results would go on public record, side by side how the politician actually voted on a specific piece of legislation.

Should we at this stage pass law, that the politician should always vote according to the "vote" results?

Should "instant voting system" be implemented, where every citizen would be required to vote on every single piece of legislation and and passing laws would depend on "instant vote results"?

At 18 every citizen would receive a device which would inform them about the next piece of legislation and send out reminders about sending in their votes ("instant citizenship messenger").

At this stage we would actually not not need the traditional elected politician, becouse citizens would represent themselves directly, 24/7 with the "instant political representation system".

We needed political representatives hitorically, because we could not all be present in person to receive information and participate in voting.
With technology this is not the case any longer.
The "instant political representation system" could convay personally all related information and could deliver our personal vote.

We would need some type of council, which duty would be to oversee issues that would require legislation. The council would prepare the pieces of legislations that would go for voting.

Obviously, any citizen could also submit request for legislation on any area, using the "instant political representation system".

Citizens should vote, whether a piece of legislation would be created from each of those proposals.

Welcome to the instant representative political society at the age of gizmos.

I promise you... (1)

MacDork (560499) | more than 9 years ago | (#10477255)

I have always wondered what would happen if one of our representatives hosted a web site that allowed people in his/her district to know what votes were coming up in Congress, how he/she is planning to vote and why, and allowed some informal polling and commentary on the issues. I know this isn't what this guy is doing, but I wonder if it isn't the logical next step.

I promise you, when they figure out PayPal, they are gonna be all over that.

Sound familiar... (4, Funny)

adam31 (817930) | more than 9 years ago | (#10476010)

Should he sleep in? Prepare for his debate? Campaign door to door?

OOO! Let me try. How about build a house with one room. Once inside, take away the door [livejournal.com] . Hilarity ensues.

Re:Sound familiar... (1)

sheetsda (230887) | more than 9 years ago | (#10476217)

In the same vein [us4n6.org] , but I like this one even more. :)

Re:Sound familiar... (1)

DaLiNKz (557579) | more than 9 years ago | (#10476824)

I just installed Sims II and did this because some friend told me to do it.. I found it rather funny lol.. Until everyone in the lab started looking at me weird like I had problems.. :S

Typical liberal (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10476043)

We don't need a wishy-washy flip-flopper who does whatever his constituents want him to do, even if it means completely changing the course. We need a steady hand, who makes a decision and sticks to it, no matter what. In these tough times, in a world changed by September 11th, we can't afford a candidates who delegates his decisions to anyone else.

Re:Typical liberal (0, Offtopic)

Buckler (732071) | more than 9 years ago | (#10476146)

Although I'm sure this must be a troll, I'll respond nevertheless.

The reason they're called "representatives" is that they represent US, their constituents. Therefore, in a perfect democracy (ha!), they are exactly required to "do what we want them to do". It's their job, you see.

Is Bush Wired? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10476057)

It looks like Bush wears an earpiece [isbushwired.com] .

Cool... (2, Funny)

greggish (319517) | more than 9 years ago | (#10476064)

... the first web-controlled candidate. This is jsut crazy enough to catch on.

He's cool (4, Informative)

Jett (135113) | more than 9 years ago | (#10476112)

He posts on DailyKos.com sometimes, so do a few of his campaign staff. From what I recall of his postings there he seems like he's a genuinely nice guy, definitely intelligent and aware of the issues. He started promoting this gimmick in a diary on DailyKos. It seems like an interesting idea to me, it's a good way to show people what kind of things he does as part of his campaign and it gives them a sense that he is responsive to them.

Re:He's cool (1)

Bob Cat - NYMPHS (313647) | more than 9 years ago | (#10477366)

He caught the internet wave when Markos said "Fuck them" about the four contractors killed and mutilated in Fallujah, and Seeman defended Kos. Money flowed to Seeman's campaign from the true believers only then.

Hey, Seeman? Fuck you.

If you do not understand what I am talking about, mod not, but read this. [clevescene.com]

"Markos Moulitsas, posted some harsh words about the American contractors who were murdered, burned, and strung up on a bridge by insurgents in Fallujah. "I feel nothing over the death of mercenaries," Moulitsas wrote. "Screw them." ...
Seemann stepped into the breach. He ponied up $400 to place an ad, and put out a press release explaining why: "It's his right to say it, and as a Democrat with a backbone, I'm not gonna be bullied."

Server using GWS/2.1 (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10476162)

Did anyone notice that the server claims to be running GWS/2.1, the same thing that Google uses?

curl -I jeffseemannforcongress.com 2>&1|grep ^Server
Server: GWS/2.1

Slashdotted (1)

had3l (814482) | more than 9 years ago | (#10476166)

This means that if his server gets slashdotted he will do nothing?

"So, what is my schedule today?"
"Today you got slashdotted sir."
"What does that mean?"
"It's like getting fucked in the ass virtually."

Diebold (3, Funny)

_w00d_ (129045) | more than 9 years ago | (#10476230)

...has an unusual approach in deciding how to spend his campaign. He asks Web surfers: Should he sleep in?...

Best of all: Jeff is fighting back against Diebold and their paperless voting machines -- and they're based in his district!

I can see Diebold continually voting for him to "sleep in past noon" and "begin another cocaine binge" in an attempt to make him lose the election.

why so hard for Congress-people to vote? (3, Interesting)

jeffehobbs (419930) | more than 9 years ago | (#10476276)


A sort-of on-topic question which occurred to me during the VP debate, when Cheney was chiding Edwards for missing votes in the senate: why is it so hard to get our congress-people to vote? "Missing votes" seems to be a ongoing and constant criticism of even our best political representatives.

Do they have to be physically present to cast a vote? If so, why? Can't we afford to get these people a blackberry or a treo or something? (I'm not being facetious, I just don't know.)

~jeff

Re:why so hard for Congress-people to vote? (1)

AnamanFan (314677) | more than 9 years ago | (#10476356)

The Congressperson must be present in order to vote within a small window of time.

I found some more info on the Senate [c-span.org] and a lot more for the House of Representatives [house.gov] .

Re:why so hard for Congress-people to vote? (2, Insightful)

Grym (725290) | more than 9 years ago | (#10476715)

The Congressperson must be present in order to vote within a small window of time.

But that's the one time when they really "represent" us? You know, this is, afterall, a *representative* democracy.

Don't think I'm attacking Kerry when I say this; it goes for all congress people: I understand missing one or two unimportant votes--I really do. But when you're too busy whoring yourself out to special interest groups and corporations to be bothered by your "civic duty," there's a problem.

I think we need to enact a law that requires at least 70% attendance for all votes or else the congressperson is sent back to his or her district for re-election. No exceptions.

Of course this would require that congress itself impose this limitation--fat chance, but one could always hope that those its against wouldn't vote as usual.

-Grym

Re:why so hard for Congress-people to vote? (1)

AnamanFan (314677) | more than 9 years ago | (#10476850)

But what if you are visiting the district you represent during the votes? Not sticking to Washington DC and loosing sight of your constituents? Not to say that all congresspersons are always absent for good reasons, but there are few that do.

Personally, I wish there was a way to enact remote voting in a secure fashion. But for something as important as congressional voting, I don't think there's a good way to go about it in a way everyone would be in agreement on. Let alone approving such a drastic change in the 200+ year rules.

Re:why so hard for Congress-people to vote? (2, Insightful)

Peyna (14792) | more than 9 years ago | (#10476396)

There is a lot more to the legislative process than showing up and pushing a button.

If they don't have to be there to vote, why should we expect them to show up for anything else? Requiring them to be there in person demands a certain level of responsibility.

If they don't care enough to get off their rear and show up to vote, they don't deserve to be able to be lazy and vote from their sofa.

If you want them to be there more often, you might want to extend their term, then they would spend less time campaigning. Or you could limit any campaigning during the last few months of the term before an election.

Also, Cheney's remark about Edwards missing votes was sort of a lie. Cheney had indeed met Edwards many times before, even on camera. They sat next to each other on stage at a formal event in 2001 (courtesy of the Daily Show). Cheney himself was in the Senate less than Edwards.

Re:why so hard for Congress-people to vote? (1)

imemyself (757318) | more than 9 years ago | (#10476887)

Cheney's not really a representitive though. His main job is to assist the president, and occasionaly work in congress, whereas Edwards' one and only job is to represent his state in congress.

Re:why so hard for Congress-people to vote? (1)

Peyna (14792) | more than 9 years ago | (#10477092)

The vice-presidents only official job (given by the Constitution) is to preside over the Senate, cast the tie-breaking vote in the Senate, and to fill in for the President when he cannot perform his duties.

The American Way (1)

shubert1966 (739403) | more than 9 years ago | (#10477033)

It's the American way! Build capital and let the interest do the work for you. So it goes with voting . . .

A politician has already acquired the office - so they kick back and let the staff and PACs do all the hard work of figuring out issues. The average citizen never fought or died in a war for the freedoms such as voting - so they kick back and watch cable. Perhaps if one had to register and vote in order to buy cable-tv, or beer, or cigarettes - more citizens would vote.

Perhaps if PACs were outlawed, and the media empires put candidates on TV/Radio for free, and staffers and officials weren't busy sleeping with one another, some real work could get done.

I believe they do have to be physically present on the floor to vote. I'd rather they were there voting in person than voting electronically. Much as I feel citizens should only be voting in the analog mode. Stylus + Paper Ballot. Just add a card reader and receipt printer to the current process and all this obfuscation about tabulation errros goes away.

I think it would be better for them to do all their other business(campaigning) by electronic means rather than electronicizing their voting. Why should a Senator or Represenatative of one state ever travel to another state for any reason? Why not telecommute?

There is profit in internet transactions and they haven't figured out how to tax it yet - that should make everyone realize politicians have no idea what the technology boom has brought. They have no idea. They are ignorant. And that's the name of that tune. IM(NS)HO

Re:why so hard for Congress-people to vote? (1)

travdaddy (527149) | more than 9 years ago | (#10477085)

I think they ARE representing our values. If less than half of a district votes, then why should the representative? One vote doesn't really make a difference anyway, right?

Re:why so hard for Congress-people to vote? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10477274)

Congressmen refrain from voting on issues that may splinter their core voter support. That way, they do not offend anyone and lose votes. For instance, perhaps a candidate wins a position in the House of Representatives based on his pro-education views. He would likely abstain from voting on abortion issues, because whatever he votes for will be against some unknown percentage of his supporters. Unless, of course, the abortion voe was projected to garner him more support than he lost :-)

Re:why so hard for Congress-people to vote? (1)

burns210 (572621) | more than 9 years ago | (#10477293)

Unencrypted, insecure, unreliable handheld computers? There is an idea. As long as they arn't stolen, or you know, hacked...

The only way a non-present vote could be established for the senate is through a dedicated, private, NSA-secured national fiber network. Either an entirely new network, or an existing Federal/Military use only network.

All through NSA supplied and regulated encryption and Voice and Video streaming for the house/senate floor, along with between congresspeople.

I would be for it mind you, but it would have to be a dependent network. This is too important to rely on a VPN over the internet. If the NSA had full say over it's security, etc. and plenty of money was spent on it to do it properly... Anything less would be insecure.

Too bad he's a Jew. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10476349)

Way to many jews are in power. Gotta clean up the mess and vote against them.

Re:Too bad he's a Jew. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10476490)

HEIL HITLER

Why did I see this article? (0, Troll)

ajakk (29927) | more than 9 years ago | (#10476371)

Why did I see this article? I can't stand reading /. politics section, thus I set my preferences not to show any politics on the front page. However, I keep on getting them.

Re:Why did I see this article? (1)

wicka_wicka (679279) | more than 9 years ago | (#10477171)

The liberals are hacking /. and forcing you to read their propaganda.

Huhahaaaahaaaa! (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10476390)

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Let me get this straight... (2, Interesting)

bytesmythe (58644) | more than 9 years ago | (#10476447)

The constituents are supposed to use an electronic, paperless voting system to support someone who is against... electronic,... paperless... voting... systems??

I think my brain is starting to bleed.

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Too many... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10476468)

Too many jews in government these days.
HEIL HITLER

PENIS (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10476514)

If your penis was 1 inch shorter it wouldn't exist.
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Lets slashdot him a vacation (1)

digitalgimpus (468277) | more than 9 years ago | (#10476528)

If the schedule breaks... he gets the day off!

Ok, maybe not... but I'd personally write a little script to automate my voting if he had an option to 'sit home, masturbate while on the phone with DC'.

Transparency (4, Interesting)

Deliveranc3 (629997) | more than 9 years ago | (#10476555)

If a politician ran on a platform of almost total transparency I would like to think he would get total voteage.

Republican or Democrat doesn't really matter when you worry they do something meriting impeachment behind closed doors.

Politicians that do this WILL win it's as simple as that.

Re:Transparency (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10476585)

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Choices (1)

tomsuchy (813628) | more than 9 years ago | (#10477283)

Hey, I voted.

[ ] Sleep in
[ ] Prepare for debate
[ ] Campaign door to door
[ ] Go to bathroom
[ ] Oppress the populace
[X] Rotate tires
[ ] Control the means of production

It's amusing that... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10477416)

we still delegate our authority to individuals so that they can give it back to us to delegate back to them.

Someday soon, we'll all be able to vote on issues ourselves rather than vote for other people to vote for them.
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