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Paypal Grinds To A Halt

timothy posted about 10 years ago | from the get-your-pal-to-pay dept.

The Internet 497

BillBrasky writes "After a 'Monthly Software Update', it appears that PayPal started having problems. There were reports all weekend of troubles, and as of Monday night here, I can't access it at all (connection time out). One user even reported that his PayPal Debit card was getting refused!" A message on the site now says the site is expected to be back at 8:10 PM PDT, not long from now.

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THE Bill Brasky? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10499964)

Brasky's semen can form into a liquid human - like the guy from 'Terminator 2

It says (5, Funny)

phalse phace (454635) | about 10 years ago | (#10499965)

Nothing for you to see here. Please move along.

Re:It says (MOD PARENT DOWN) (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10500010)

That's not "funny". It's cut-n-paste trollwork.

oh well (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10499968)

fuck it man...its all bullshit anyways.

hmm... (5, Funny)

dougTheRug (649069) | about 10 years ago | (#10499971)

Maybe not the smartest place to have put my life savings?

Re:hmm... (3, Funny)

joelanders (743036) | about 10 years ago | (#10499987)

Or you could claim that you had like a billion dollars in your account and it got erased...

Re:hmm... (1)

Man in Spandex (775950) | about 10 years ago | (#10500026)

Safer than at Jim's Bank from Family Guy where the guy makes tattoo's of Kermit the Frog

Re:hmm... (2, Funny)

Joey7F (307495) | about 10 years ago | (#10500213)

But of course the difference between Jim's 'Bank' and other "Banks" is that they are "Banks"

--Joey

And to top it off... (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10499972)

They have to deal with a slashdotting.

msnbc (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10499973)

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6228586/

msnbc also has an article about the outtages

effects on ebay share price tomorrow (4, Interesting)

po_boy (69692) | about 10 years ago | (#10499975)

Get out your crystal balls. What effect do you think this will have on the share price of EBAY tomorrow? Will that constitute a buying or selling opportunity?

Re:effects on ebay share price tomorrow (1)

Free_Trial_Thinking (818686) | about 10 years ago | (#10499999)

I predict no effect. Ebay stock price movements seem to only rarely follow real life.

Re:effects on ebay share price tomorrow (5, Funny)

Klar (522420) | about 10 years ago | (#10500005)

Well, hardcore investors won't be able to do anything as all their money will be tied up on the paypal website.

Re:effects on ebay share price tomorrow (1)

usefool (798755) | about 10 years ago | (#10500013)

The price will probably go up sharply because investors suddenly realized there are people using PayPal.

Of course, if the price drops tomorrow, it's probably the best time to buy in, since this is obviously a temporary glitch.

Re:effects on ebay share price tomorrow (5, Insightful)

ergo98 (9391) | about 10 years ago | (#10500091)

Of course, if the price drops tomorrow, it's probably the best time to buy in, since this is obviously a temporary glitch.

While it may be a temporary glitch, there is no doubt that such an outage has a real financial impact - banking, which PayPal is to a degree, is based upon trust, and PayPal already starts in a precarious situation given that there are no branches to visit and limit options available outside of their website. This is the sort of thing that sends grandmas and grandpas away from that payment method for a while.

Re:effects on ebay share price tomorrow (2, Insightful)

ottothecow (600101) | about 10 years ago | (#10500123)

but grandmas and grandpas probobly dont use paypal every day. Even if they check today, they might think they are doing something wrong and call their grandson to walk them through it again. By the time the kids parents make him go help grandpa...paypal will be working fine :)

Re:effects on ebay share price tomorrow (1)

Dr Kool, PhD (173800) | about 10 years ago | (#10500037)

Nothing dude. Worst case these Paypal bugs cost Ebay a few million dollars, and it isn't likely to have any effect on their long term business. Yeah, you can say "someone might try to use paypal, get sick of it being down, and leave ebay FOREVER" but that really isn't realistic.

Ebay's market cap is in the tens of billions, so a few million dollars is really "nothing".

Awesome plan! (3, Funny)

pirodude (54707) | about 10 years ago | (#10499976)

Yeah, so paypal.com is having issues loading. Makes sense to slashdot them too!

Sys Admin Rule #2... (1)

vwjeff (709903) | about 10 years ago | (#10500119)

Yeah, so paypal.com is having issues loading. Makes sense to slashdot them too!

Any Sys Admin will tell you that extensive testing should be done before going live. I guess we have done our part and "tested" their systems.

BTW, rule #1 is as follows:

#1. Always make sure you can blame someone else when a problem happens. (I'd hate to be the guy who ran the software update!)

That was interesting... (4, Interesting)

drinkypoo (153816) | about 10 years ago | (#10499977)

The first six or seven times I tried clicking through to this story slashdot told me "Nothing to see here. Move along." Problem in the subscription code?

Anyway this was bound to happen sooner or later. There's frankly no way to test large-scale use of a resource like that because in order to REALLY test it you have to exchange a lot of data with assorted financial institutions which will probably not be very forgiving about something like that. Paypal's never given me any trouble whatsoever and I think that not being able to use it for a day or so is acceptable. Not being able to access debit card funds could be a serious blow to someone foolish enough to store a lot of money in paypal, but otherwise it should have little impact.

Re:That was interesting... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10500020)

There's frankly no way to test large-scale use of a resource like that because in order to REALLY test it you have to exchange a lot of data with assorted financial institutions which will probably not be very forgiving about something like that.

You know, my credit cards, my bank and my brokerage firm never have this kind of problem. Are their programmers that much better than Paypal's?

Load testing certainly isn't impossible. Lots of other companies manage to do it.

But paypal isn't a bank, and doesn't guarrantee anything.

PayPal and eBay constantly push the envelope (4, Interesting)

winkydink (650484) | about 10 years ago | (#10500058)

Their Dir of Ops gave the keynote at the USENIX Large Installation Systems Administration Conference last year. During the talk, he described how eBAy wants so much to use industry best practices, but given their enormous size and transaction volume, they end up being the ones who constantly push the envelope.

After listening to the talk, one came away wondering how the site even worked at all. Every day, you are on the bleeding edge and every day if you have the slightest of hiccups, expect to have it covered in the Wall Street Journal the next day.

I don't know what they paid that poor guy, but it isn't enough. I'm surprised he still has all his hair and it wasn't grey.

Re:PayPal and eBay constantly push the envelope (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10500188)

That of course has me wondering is what the "powered by IBM" link on every page really means. That's a lot of hardware.

Re:That was interesting... (4, Funny)

StudMuffin (167171) | about 10 years ago | (#10500173)

Uhh, all I can say is that my business RELIES on paypal for payments, and today we have lost ALOT of business. At least $1700 in sales. Not being able to use it for a day or so is acceptable? Think outside the box. They are our primary credit card processor. Oh, btw - http://brain-station.com is our store.

Re:That was interesting... (0)

drinkypoo (153816) | about 10 years ago | (#10500214)

How much of that business is going to come back to your site over the next couple of weeks? Just because you didn't get a sale on a specific day, that doesn't mean it's lost. Of course there's no way to accurately measure this short of aggressive surveying so it's something of a rhetorical question. Personally I wouldn't use paypal as my primary anything because of the specific type of financial institution they are. I do use them for ebay since it only costs me a percentage, but an ebay payment can be a day late without hurting anyone in almost all cases.

Oh and, you seem to have lost your dictionary, as well. As a famous .sig says, "a lot" is two words. You wouldn't say "alittle", would you?

On the upside... (5, Funny)

rel4x (783238) | about 10 years ago | (#10499981)

...most sites that rely on paypal (donations to stay up) don't really get donations anyways. Hard to bring a non-existant economic action to a halt ;-)
hehe I'm a silly goose.

Re:On the upside... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10500109)

your also a gay nigger

Re:On the upside... (1)

ykernow (821247) | about 10 years ago | (#10500170)

Rel4x wrote :
> most sites that rely on paypal (donations
> to stay up) don't really get donations
> anyways. Hard to bring a non-existant
> economic action to a halt.

But then you have a large number of small businesses that rely on PayPal for their sales... These websites do generate a large number of "economic actions."

Thanks, Linux! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10499982)

netcraft [netcraft.com]

Could this be a kernel error (0, Offtopic)

Camel Racer (134168) | about 10 years ago | (#10499985)

or just a
Bank Panic

Re:Could this be a kernel error (2, Interesting)

Andy_R (114137) | about 10 years ago | (#10500025)

Don't you mean 'looks like a bank, acts like a bank, but doesn't bother following proper banking practice' Panic?

Re:Could this be a kernel error (1)

tokachu(k) (780007) | about 10 years ago | (#10500070)

Actually, it looks like a "bank unregulated by the Federal Reserve is doomed to fail" error. Don't tell Badnarik, though...he'll have a heart attack.

Then again, PayPal has had bad service from the start. Maybe this is poetic justice.

Re:Could this be a kernel error (1)

jcr (53032) | about 10 years ago | (#10500161)

So, you contend that Federal Reserve regulation is effective in preventing server deployment fuck-ups?

Fascinating.

-jcr

Re:Could this be a kernel error (2, Interesting)

TykeClone (668449) | about 10 years ago | (#10500205)

Bank regulation is one of the few valid uses of government oversight. Without it, things like stock market crashes of 2001 balloon into the Great Depression like the 1930's. "Safety and Soundness" and the FDIC keep the publics trust in the banking system (will my money be there tomorrow?)

I don't say this lightly as I work in a bank and have to deal with it. The regulation of banks has worked well enough for long enough to migrate the impetus of many regulations away from "safety and soundess" (the two cornerstones of a properly run bank) to consumer protection and antiterrorism.

With the advent of paypal and other non-bank players entering the financial services arena, these entities need to be brought under the same regulations that face banks. Make paypal live and work under Reg E. Make insurance companies deal with CRA issues. Make Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac live up to the same standards set forth for other financial institutions.

Re:Could this be a kernel error (1)

tsm_sf (545316) | about 10 years ago | (#10500073)

And ever so politely tells their customers to go fuck themselves [paypalsucks.com] if they have a problem?

need more Devel... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10500092)

Nah. We just need more Developpers Developpers Developpers Developpers

Damn you Paypal! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10499986)

I tried to pay for my sampling sweep plugin this morning and it didn't work! How am I supposed to get a "lightning fast payment AA+++++++++++++" feedback now???

Re:Damn you Paypal! (1)

Denyer (717613) | about 10 years ago | (#10500044)

It is rather annoying when you get invoices and you can't access the service in order to pay them, yes.

Apparently this is affecting some people with PayPal debit cards far worse, though.

Woo hoo! (2, Funny)

methangel (191461) | about 10 years ago | (#10499988)

This is Karma biting Paypal in the ass. Paypal, thanks for all of the overcharging and fee stacking ... bungholes.

Those pricks (1)

MacFury (659201) | about 10 years ago | (#10500181)

How dare they charge for a usefull service?

Down for the count (3, Informative)

uspsguy (541171) | about 10 years ago | (#10499989)

I recieved a message that they were unavailable about 1 this afternoon. I was able to get back in a few minutes ago but it was majorly slow. Glad I didn't need to pay for anything today.

PayPal can't be down! (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10499990)

I just got an email from them asking me to verify my account information and it was working just fine!

Re:PayPal can't be down! (1)

CyberBill (526285) | about 10 years ago | (#10500022)

LOL, thats hilarious... Funniest part is that sooo many stupid users will do it!

Re:PayPal can't be down! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10500100)

Wait, what are you saying?

Re:PayPal can't be down! (3, Funny)

HitByASquirrel (710289) | about 10 years ago | (#10500149)

Hes saying that you've been scammed.

But don't worry, my friend (who just so happens to be a Nigerian Prince) and I can help you out of this mess. All you have to do is...

Re:PayPal can't be down! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10500187)

All you have to do is...

Yes? Are you there??? Don't leave us hanging!

Re:PayPal can't be down! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10500211)

Yeah. They even asked for my social security number. With vital info verification like that, I know I can trust Pay Pal.

That's why I support The Patriot Act I, II, and III. Unfortunately, Patriot Act II specified that it and those which follow cannot be released to the public. But I do appreciate the DNA swab they took from my mouth. I know my government is doing a good job.

Time to vote for Bush II again. I love Ashcroft as Attorney General.

That explains those recent emails I received. (4, Funny)

Thing I am (761900) | about 10 years ago | (#10499994)

The ones that tell me I need to log in to my account because of the possible security problem and the URL is to a server in Korea.

All they did was change over to the new site. (1, Interesting)

nlinecomputers (602059) | about 10 years ago | (#10500001)

They were down for me about one hour. Leave it to slashdot to fucking panic.....

They do have a blurb on the site about problems but I'm not having any trouble. Why can't we mod articles as trolls.

Re:All they did was change over to the new site. (1)

weston (16146) | about 10 years ago | (#10500159)

Why can't we mod articles as trolls.

Because you're wrong in this case. Where I work, we rely on paypal to pay our freelancers, and we haven't been able to send payments normally since Friday at least. Today we haven't been able to log in at all.

A bank withdrawl I made into my personal account took twice as long last week to process as normal... and cleared during the weekend, which has never happened to me before.

Clearly something's up.

not a bank :) (5, Funny)

LupusUF (512364) | about 10 years ago | (#10500002)

This is just one of their ways of telling people they are not a bank. :)

The next time they get into trouble for not following banking rules they can say

"See, we're not a bank...banks don't crash"

Re:not a bank :) (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10500047)

RBC in Canada crashed for a good week. :)

Re:not a bank :) (1)

arhar (773548) | about 10 years ago | (#10500121)

Banks don't crash? Haha *snort snort* but of course they do! *snort derf derf grunt*

Re:not a bank :) (1)

TykeClone (668449) | about 10 years ago | (#10500219)

No - but they have disaster plans.

Re:not a bank :) (1)

lukewarmfusion (726141) | about 10 years ago | (#10500162)

coughcough1929coughcough

I won't use PayPal and alwys warn my clients about using it because of those issues.

How much negative.... (4, Insightful)

d3ity (800597) | about 10 years ago | (#10500006)

How much negative feedback will be left on ebay due to user stupidity? The world wonders...

So how can we help? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10500007)

I know lets post links to their server and slashdot the crap out of them!

PayPalSucks (0, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10500009)

http://www.paypalsucks.org/ [paypalsucks.org]

Pal?! (1)

unbiasedbystander (660703) | about 10 years ago | (#10500018)

If it were really my Pal it wouldn't cause me such stress. More like PainPal, am I rite?

I wish I had gotten the "Please Move Along..." (0, Offtopic)

Rick Zeman (15628) | about 10 years ago | (#10500033)

...cuz a Paypal outage is neither "News for Nerds" and certainly not "Stuff That Matters."

That being said, I wonder if they deployed tomorrow's MS patches and went boom. :-)

Flamebait. (1)

josh3736 (745265) | about 10 years ago | (#10500132)

This most certainly is news for nerds (it's about a company experiencing a technical problem with their servers) and it is stuff that matters (this is bound to have an economic impact of some sort, if only in the eBay world.)

The remark about MS patches is just blatant flamebait. Never mind that PayPal runs Linux [netcraft.com] .

Eh? (4, Funny)

darkmeridian (119044) | about 10 years ago | (#10500043)

PayPal reports problem. We slashdot them.

I know we hate them and all, but why can't we take just a little bit of sympathy?

Re:Eh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10500071)

Well see they probably have more than one puter for serving web pages and handling money.

Re:Eh? (1)

jd (1658) | about 10 years ago | (#10500182)

We do have sympathy! We've taken their mind totally off the original problem, for a start. :)

Re:Eh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10500185)

I know we hate them and all, but why can't we take just a little bit of sympathy?

Because they're bastards.. that's why darkmeridian, that's why.

Re:Eh? (1)

oneade (305202) | about 10 years ago | (#10500198)

I know we hate them and all, but why can't we take just a little bit of sympathy?

Why bother sympathizing with an entity which has done nothing to prove it will return anything in kind?

Paypal Problems (1)

disbaldman (804041) | about 10 years ago | (#10500048)

Paypal has always had a history of problems. If you've ever tried disputing a claim, then you'll know what I mean. Although Paypal makes transactions a LOT easier (and faster) on eBay and other online services, I wouldn't pump large amounts of money into my Paypal balance...It's just too risky! Not to mention that there are lots of people out there running scams by using Paypal who are aware of the fact that many people feel safe because of their "Confirmed User" status. So it doesn't surprise me that they continue to have problems elsewhere...

I think they've handled disputes pretty well... (1)

Ghostgate (800445) | about 10 years ago | (#10500223)

Granted, I've only had two disputes over 4 years or so. Both were people on eBay who took the money and didn't deliver anything. But both times, Paypal investigated the claims. And both times, they found the seller responsible and refunded my money, in full, with no fees taken. Of course, the downside is that it took them about a month to complete the entire process, from the original claim to the refund. But hey, I didn't lose a cent.

You do have to watch out for trading items in online games though. Paypal makes it clear they do not offer any protection for "intangible" items. In this case it's the buyer that has to watch out the most. If you buy something and send the money, and then the person never gives you the item, you're screwed. Paypal will investigate if you file a claim, but as long as the seller claims they delivered it, Paypal will just tell you it was intangible and that will be that.

I agree with the parent post, though, that you shouldn't leave lots of money in your Paypal balance. Paypal is not a bank. If you receive a lot of money through Paypal, best to send it directly to your bank account ASAP. It's not like you need to have money in your Paypal balance to send instant payments anyway.

I thought maybe . . . (1, Funny)

user no. 590291 (590291) | about 10 years ago | (#10500051)

. . . the FDIC finally figured out it's an unregulated bank and shut it down.

Feel much safer since I installed paypalbuddy.exe (5, Funny)

aardwolf204 (630780) | about 10 years ago | (#10500054)



Thats funny, I never had problems with my paypal account. I get emails all the time from them asking me to verify my account at secure websites like paypal.reallysecure.tk. Sometimes they even send me a utility, paypalbuddy.exe, to keep my computer secure. I feel a lot safer since I've installed paypalbuddy.exe, in fact I know that I'm safe because if I check my task manager I can see that paypalbuddy.exe is using 90% of my CPU to constantly encrypt my paypal traffic, even when I'm not at the computer! I forwarded this handy utility to my mother-in-law and she loves it too.

The only thing Paypal should really focus on now is training their likely outsourced software engineers in proper grammar. Samir is constantly sending me emails about my paypal account though for some reason he can never get some english phrases right. I guess its ok though, I cant expect the entire world to speak english, and I give him an E for effort, especially on those unique poems he attaches to the end of the emails...

Shall I share...

Capture the magic of the season,
Sit down, relax, and have trust in us.
The price of portability
upon Real Girls Business?
Thou must medicate thyself.


Credit where credit is due, this spam poetry [sperare.com] site rocks

Nothing to worry about (5, Funny)

dtfinch (661405) | about 10 years ago | (#10500055)

They're just getting ready to invoke line 4531 of the service agreement (that thing in the 5 line scrollbar you agreed to) which says that if they seize your account and all the money therein you agree to settle your case through binding arbitration via email.

Re:Nothing to worry about (1)

dtfinch (661405) | about 10 years ago | (#10500072)

typo. "scrolling textbox"

There goes the whole economy... (4, Funny)

britneys 9th husband (741556) | about 10 years ago | (#10500059)

Paypal is used for most Ebay transactions, and according to Dick Cheney, Ebay is what's keeping our economy going. I'd say more, but I need to go to the store for canned food, plastic sheeting, and duct tape.

Re:There goes the whole economy... (1)

jd (1658) | about 10 years ago | (#10500220)

Conspiracy Mode On


Did anyone notice how PayPal went Bye Bye the same day that it was reported that we had the sharpest rise in oil prices in history (25% in one month) AND where Slashdot had two stories concerning pollution from oil?


Of course, it could all be coincidence... ...couldn't it...?

No monopolies (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10500060)

for infrastructure services such as PayPal, it is essential that we have competition and choices.

this is a valid use of government regulatory powers: NO MONOPOLIES, EVER

Gee you mean sites sometimes go down!!! (1)

Travy.b (815549) | about 10 years ago | (#10500063)

C'mon fellas.
br> Changing over sites does happen occationally, and outages happen!!

I couldn't log onto my Commonwealth Netbank account last night. Maybe I should have put that up on /.

Paypal=SESDL (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10500079)

SESDL = Same ebay s**t different Logo, paypal should give it a rest, between letting people being defrauded to charging you even if you fart while on their site and providing the worse internet application.

There are better options outhere, bidpay, usual western union, post office money orders. if you go with a company that does live updates on PRODUCTION equipment you don't even understand why you are reading stuff out of what might seem to you a TV with a keyboard attached.

Hypothesis (5, Funny)

Gentlewhisper (759800) | about 10 years ago | (#10500086)

It probably happened because this ebay seller was selling bootleg dvds and the FBI seized Paypal's servers :)

OK for small amounts of money. (1)

davesplace1 (729794) | about 10 years ago | (#10500089)

Paypal is ok for keeping small amounts of money for online purchases, but you need to remember they are not a bank. Do not keep more money in youe Paypal account than you can afford to lose. Your money in Paypal is not backed by the FDIC. That said I still keep small amounts of money in my paypal account.

PayPal has been having problems all weekend (5, Informative)

Dr Cool (671556) | about 10 years ago | (#10500095)

PayPal has been having significant outage problems for people all over the world since their major website update last Thursday. Many businesses that use PayPal for financial transactions (including my own) have seen business plummet because buyers can't use PayPal's services. Ebay's web forums are going crazy because many auction buyers can't pay.

By the way, don't trust PayPal's message that the site might be available at any specific time. They've been giving specific times all day today but for the most part, it's inaccessible through any interface... web front-end, payment processing back-end, instant payment notifications, debit cards don't work, etc.

You can read more about the trials and tribulations of this weekend's major outage from a developer's point of view at the PayPal Developer web forum [paypaldev.org] . There are a lot of unhappy campers there!

Um, yeah... (4, Informative)

SamMichaels (213605) | about 10 years ago | (#10500107)

A service which houses 50 million people, has billions of dollars flow through it, and is the primary payment service for the largest auction site in the world? Sounds pretty newsworthy to me, people.

Regardless, we accept Paypal payments for our business. Didn't work all weekend...and today I kept getting errors (I think it was 30004) telling me to "retry" or "return to main page". Took a few retries, but I did get stuff done....such as transfering money out for payroll on Friday. Auction and storefront sales were down from lack of a payment service though. Debit card had activity over the weekend, so that worked fine.

Priceless (5, Interesting)

peu (163472) | about 10 years ago | (#10500108)

from the msnbc article:

"When folks go to use their PayPal debit cards, the payment is rejected, but the charge actually goes through and PayPal is deducting the amount from their account"

Re:Priceless (1)

dtfinch (661405) | about 10 years ago | (#10500142)

When folks go to use their PayPal debit cards, the payment is rejected, but the charge actually goes through and PayPal is deducting the amount from their account

Now that's just evil in so many ways.

It makes me glad that I don't trust them any more than I need to.

So... (2, Funny)

SynapseLapse (644398) | about 10 years ago | (#10500110)

First there's an article about how bad it is to be in IT.

Then PayPal goes down and it receives national attention followed by an assault on the servers by curious /.'ers.

Yeah... I bet there's at least one IT guy out there who's phone is ringing like made who'd agree being IT really sucks...

still down (1)

JeremyALogan (622913) | about 10 years ago | (#10500112)

8:22pm PDT and still timing out. Maybe there'll be some jobs available soon!!!

I found the root of all problems (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10500114)

The powered by Sun logo = suckers....

Scott McNealy can go to hell.. why god took Superman instead of this bozo...

This is why.... (4, Insightful)

BobSutan (467781) | about 10 years ago | (#10500127)

"One user even reported that his PayPal Debit card was getting refused!"

This is why real banking institutions have such stringent operational guidelines set down my the federal government in regards to information systems. This should serve as a hearty wake-up call to a great many people that have fallen under the impression that Paypal is a "real" bank, when in fact they are not.

I have a friend (-1, Offtopic)

magefile (776388) | about 10 years ago | (#10500128)

Who is a higher-up in the translation department for Paypal ... actually, I think he's in charge of the whole department, but I'm not sure. I wonder if he's reading this right now?

Mist or Ghost? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10500131)

here [princeton.edu]

As K..K..K..K..Ken said ... (1)

satans_advocate (787715) | about 10 years ago | (#10500136)

G..G..G..Good.

With any luck this is a permanent crash.

Th1s FP fo8 GNAA (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10500144)

of OpenBSD. how [goat.cx]

You can get in right now... (1)

Ghostgate (800445) | about 10 years ago | (#10500146)

... but it's intermittent. Most of the time I just get an error message. After a couple of tries, I was able to reach my account and it looks ok, except for a rather large payment to a bank in Nigeria. Hmm, I don't remember doing that...

paypal (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10500147)

I sent an angry email to Paypal after I was also having problems. I don't expect a reply, since PayPal has horrible customer service.

Quick summary

"It is a disturbing that a company who make millions of dollars chose not to hire competent developers for the design of the site and software testers to ensure the site worked before putting it into production"

ebayers lost my business today (2, Interesting)

insomnyuk (467714) | about 10 years ago | (#10500153)

I'm too lazy to mail a check or money order for something I buy online (online is supposed to = convenient), so when I wanted to buy a lens for my SLR, I didn't bid on the relevant auctions today, since I was not sure I'd have a reliable way to pay for it.

One wonders how much money will be lost by others taking similar actions. Not really quantifiable but definitely some kind of loss.

Fixed... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10500155)

They've got it fixed now... I just received an email instructing me to re-enter my credit card and bank info because of the recent problems. It looks like it's on a new server in Taiwan too... go figure.

The title (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10500175)

How cheap is that? "* grinds to a halt". Slashdot is supposed to report news, not make the news.

lost $35 bucks (2, Interesting)

Mr. Flibble (12943) | about 10 years ago | (#10500197)

A friend of mine sent me $35 bucks via paypal, it arrived.. Then the other day I checked my account and it was EMPTY. I have not bought anything with paypal in the last month, so where did my balance go?

PayPal 101 (5, Insightful)

xxxJonBoyxxx (565205) | about 10 years ago | (#10500207)

1) As soon as someone pays you, move ALL the money out of your PayPal account.

2) To pay someone else, have payment go directly from your associated checking account. There is no need to carry a positive balance on PayPal.

3) Don't get the goddamn DEBIT card.

BTW, it's 8:37PT and it took almost 3 minutes to sign on. My guess is that PayPal will be hiring soon.

Microsoft's fault (2, Insightful)

null etc. (524767) | about 10 years ago | (#10500208)

Isn't it funny how if PayPal was using Windows servers, everyone would be bashing Microsoft right now, blaming it on Windows? (similar to one recently publicized outage)


Hmmm, I wonder what hardware/software they use, and I wonder why no one's bashing it.

This only made me think to myself... (1)

bloxnet (637785) | about 10 years ago | (#10500209)

...that we really need a viable alternative to Paypal to be adopted for use in places like Ebay. At first today I was semi-annoyed at my inability to pay for an auction I had won, but after a few other people told me the issue was widespread I started thinking how much it must have made a sucky impact on a lot of small ebay-based businesses, etc today, and what a prolonged problem could mean. Seriously, I would love to see an independent company not owned by ebay as a secondary (and widely accepted) alternative to Paypal. I figure that competition can only breed improvement anyhow. For any of the more involved readers our there, what is the next best alternative to Paypal?
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