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Cherry OS Claims Mac OS X Capability For x86

timothy posted about 10 years ago | from the funny-it-requires-windows dept.

OS X 1090

jediboytj writes "According to the MacWorld Article, Cherry OS, does what Virtual PC does for Macs, only the opposite. PC Users are now able to run Mac OSX at G4 Speeds (Company claims 80% of the speed of your PC). It also includes full hardware support: hard drive, CPU, RAM, FireWire, USB, PCI, PCMCIA bus, Ethernet networking and modem. The software is being distributed through electronic download at $49.99 USD..." Note: it does not come with a copy of any Apple OS. Anyone in Windowsland tried it to provide a thumbs up (or down)?

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So, you're asking (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10505026)

If anyone has popped the cherry on CherryOS yet?

Re:So, you're asking (5, Funny)

Triumph The Insult C (586706) | about 10 years ago | (#10505078)

well, it would appear as though the OS on their webserver has been popped. does that count?

Re:So, you're asking (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10505100)

And using a thumb (up or down) no less.


Subject Line Troll (581198) | about 10 years ago | (#10505253)

Re:So, you're asking (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10505111)

If that's what their server was running, then it's been tentacle raped.

Re:So, you're asking (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10505210)

Jimmy, why do you always use such tasteless humor! Now come upstairs out of the basement, lunch is ready. And I removed the crusts off of your sandwiches, just like you like. The milk is warming in the microwave too, and the cookies are fresh.

CherryOS goes down! (1)

whizkid042 (515649) | about 10 years ago | (#10505033)

Oops ... look like somebody got slashdotted already. And only 0 comments so far!

Re:CherryOS goes down! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10505068)

I wonder if this is some wierd Mac web server running on a filemaker pro backend, under the CherryOS emulator running under Bochs, running on NetBSD on an amiga......

Re:CherryOS goes down! (1)

Merk (25521) | about 10 years ago | (#10505086)

Version Information: Microsoft .NET Framework Version:1.1.4322.573; ASP.NET Version:1.1.4322.573

Maybe they should have used Apache on OS X?

Re:CherryOS goes down! (4, Funny)

johnnyb (4816) | about 10 years ago | (#10505089)

It's running DotNet. [troll]It will probably be down for the rest of the day.[/troll]

Re:CherryOS goes down! (4, Funny)

dekropisvol (801636) | about 10 years ago | (#10505186)

LOL, got maybe a license for 5 connections :)

fp! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10505034)

FP !!

Cherry, huh? (1)

trollercoaster (250101) | about 10 years ago | (#10505037)

I had a date with a girl named Cherry once. Sounded promising.

Site is dead? (0, Redundant)

pLnCrZy (583109) | about 10 years ago | (#10505039)

I can't even load the site to take a look at it...

Re:Site is dead? (4, Funny)

savagedome (742194) | about 10 years ago | (#10505072)

Try this [] instead.

Re:Site is dead? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10505146)

the CherryOS name is a little too close to cheerios, this just sounds like a troll.

Probably a packaged PearPC vapourware, if anything.

Try this instead: (3, Informative)

temojen (678985) | about 10 years ago | (#10505256)

PearPC [] , same thing only open source, free, and runs on Windows and Linux.

recipe for a slashdotting (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10505042)

Wow, there is a recipe for a slashdotting-- let people run OS X on the cheapest ahrdware they can find...

Re:recipe for a slashdotting (3, Funny)

Phroggy (441) | about 10 years ago | (#10505137)

Wow, there is a recipe for a slashdotting-- let people run OS X on the cheapest ahrdware they can find...

If their web server were running OSX, it might work a little better...

Re:recipe for a slashdotting (3, Insightful)

John Harrison (223649) | about 10 years ago | (#10505228)

and then run your webserver on Windows using ASP for static pages.

Fr0St p1sS (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10505043)


~fp~ (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10505044)


POP! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10505045)

Someone popped the cherry...

That was quick. (5, Funny)

Spackler (223562) | about 10 years ago | (#10505052)

They saw us coming around the corner!

Server Error in '/' Application.

Just a dot away from a PERFECT error message.

Re:That was quick. (0, Redundant)

sebol (112743) | about 10 years ago | (#10505083)

It suppose showing

"Server Error in '/.' Application."

Oh.. (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10505055)

I like Mac OS X. It's pretty.

Look out Bill (-1, Troll)

Tie_Defender (753637) | about 10 years ago | (#10505056)

Hehe piss Micro$oft off and give them a taste of their own medicine :)

Uh... (3, Insightful)

Bill, Shooter of Bul (629286) | about 10 years ago | (#10505121)

Yeah that will piss bill off. People that wanted to buy an apple will just buy a windows pc, Cherry and OSX. That will really tick him off. Drain off all of the apple hardware margins and increase windows revenue. Life must suck for him right now.

Re:Look out Bill (2, Interesting)

AlphaSys (613947) | about 10 years ago | (#10505177)

Yeh, that should piss them off... make Mac-only software just another obsolete reason for buying pricey Macs over cheap Intel. Even with the cost a Windoze license you could still build a pretty beefy workstation to host an OSX image for the same money you'd pay for a closed G5 setup.

The flip-side: a report will be out in a week saying 90% of Windows installations are only used to pirate OSX!!!

Finally... (5, Insightful)

Daimaou (97573) | about 10 years ago | (#10505059)

I've always wanted to try OS X to see if I'd like it, but I've always thought buying a Mac was an expensive way to "test drive" OS X, and thus have never done so. $50.00 on the otherhand is quite reasonable, I think. Perhaps I'll finally give OS X a try.

Re:Finally... (2, Informative)

lakiolen (785856) | about 10 years ago | (#10505097)

Not counting the cost of "buying" OS X.

Re:Finally... (1)

GooberToo (74388) | about 10 years ago | (#10505128)

$50.00 + the cost of OSX.

Re:Finally... (5, Informative)

over_exposed (623791) | about 10 years ago | (#10505133)

You still need to buy a copy of OSX. It's gonna run you a *tad* more than $50...

Re:Finally... (0, Redundant)

OrangeStar (820331) | about 10 years ago | (#10505214)

You would also have to buy OS X itself. It doesn't come bundled...(There is a torrent though...)

Oh Boy! (5, Funny)

JoeLinux (20366) | about 10 years ago | (#10505060)

Now I can have my life-long dream of running a Laserwriter using appletalk!

Re:Oh Boy! (5, Informative)

drinkypoo (153816) | about 10 years ago | (#10505116)

If you put the laserwriter on an etherprint box of some sort, you can print to it using Linux (or Solaris) with netatalk. Laserwriters speak Postscript so nothing could be easier to support once you get them talking. I did it back in the days when a 486 was a tolerably fast computer and it only took me a few hours to get running including compiling the software and building a new kernel with appletalk support.

I know you were just being a smartass, a time-honored tradition around here, but I couldn't pass up the opportunity to be informative.

Re:Oh Boy! (1)

mattkime (8466) | about 10 years ago | (#10505144)

I picked up one of those off the curb. Its a bit slow but its the best printer I've ever owned - no more flaky inkjets for me!

but.. (2, Insightful)

TheScottishGuy (701141) | about 10 years ago | (#10505062)

isn't the whole point of running osX that it's mac hardware too? why would you want to run it on a pc?

Re:but.. (4, Insightful)

yamla (136560) | about 10 years ago | (#10505194)

Most of my software development takes place on ix86 machines, targetting Windows and less often, Linux. It just isn't worth the cost for me to buy an Apple computer.

I'm not saying they aren't good value for money or anything. But if I could compile and test software for OS X on my ix86 system, that could well be worth the purchase price of the software and a license for OS X. Provided, of course, it is fully compatible and runs at a decent speed.

Heck, if they really are close to 80%, this is a pretty good deal. If I was to buy Apple hardware anyway, just for testing, I'd likely end up with a 1.25 Ghz eMac or whatever. The emulation route would result in a much faster OS X system for me as my ix86 computer is generally always quite high-end.

Re:but.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10505200)

testing purposes?
The world is more that you and your computor, from time to time you have to test your stuff for other platforms too.

Re:but.. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10505225)

For more flexibility with the hardware. You can use a cheap $200 box or a $3000 beast as you please, with the peripherals you like.

Even more important on laptops - Apple hardware has been plagued with issues recently. If I can have the beauty of OSX without logic board failures, broken hinges, dodgy backlights, case markings... well, that'd be cool.

Looks... non-existent (5, Insightful)

Rosyna (80334) | about 10 years ago | (#10505064)

The screenshots are missing (last I checked), the site is full of spelling errors and they called it "Apple Install Shield". It being, I guess?

Emulating a G3 at 80% might be within the realm of possibility if I was on LSD. However, saying you can do a G4 (which implies AltiVec) is just not possible. Seriously. That'd be like emulating SSE3 on a G5. Ain't gonna happen.

Re:Looks... non-existent (1)

Pete Brubaker (35550) | about 10 years ago | (#10505147)

I agree. However since it's BSD based couldnt Apple re-compile the kernel for a PC chip?

Why wouldnt they? I know a bunch of people that would love to run OSX on a PC. Hell I'd love to dual boot it.


Re:Looks... non-existent (2, Informative)

Sc00ter (99550) | about 10 years ago | (#10505169)

They have the base for x86 (Darwin). It's just the UI that's for macs only.

Re:Looks... non-existent (4, Insightful)

dalutong (260603) | about 10 years ago | (#10505238)

I would guess they won't because either 1) they have some no-compete-on-x86 clause with their deal with MS or 2) they couldn't have quite as nice an experience with x86 -- if you don't control the hardware it is much harder to have such a nice stable system

Re:Looks... non-existent (5, Informative)

Datasage (214357) | about 10 years ago | (#10505175)

Not only that, but there is no information about the company on the website.

Its got that feeling of an overnight company. The whois record was only registered in july.

It wouldnt supprise me if its some company that took pearPC and is trying to sell it.

Re:Looks... non-existent (1, Informative)

drinkypoo (153816) | about 10 years ago | (#10505196)

Saying it's not possible to emulate a G4 at 80% speed is kind of arrogant, don't you think? It's probable that most Altivec instructions will map to SSE2/3 or 3DNow! without much translation at all. A vector operation is a vector operation is a vector operation, after all. An author of PearPC claims that register starvation isn't a serious problem either, so I'm not sure what law says that you can't emulate a G4 at 80% speed...

There's your problem... (-1, Troll)

brianhone (754572) | about 10 years ago | (#10505065)

Version Information: Microsoft .NET Framework Version:1.1.4322.573; ASP.NET Version:1.1.4322.573

Re:There's your problem... (5, Funny)

ganhawk (703420) | about 10 years ago | (#10505112)

No. you got it all wrong. It is actually IIS running on a virtual PC inside Cherry OS inside a normal PC.

Future Slashdot Story Idea (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10505067)

Running MacOS using CherryOS on Windows using VMWare on FreeBSD using Linux binary compatibility.

Re:Future Slashdot Story Idea (4, Funny)

lordandrei (821457) | about 10 years ago | (#10505250)

You mean you don't want to run the palm emulator of FreeBSD first?

so.... (2, Funny)

dummkopf (538393) | about 10 years ago | (#10505071)

does it also do the "diiiiiiing" when you start up? should not, as the usual PC has no built-in speaker. that will take away a big chunk from the experience....

Re:so.... (1)

MikeXpop (614167) | about 10 years ago | (#10505206)

You don't need internal speakers for the aungh (as I call it), but the sound comes from a custom chip within the mac. So no, you won't hear it.

Re:so.... (1)

operagost (62405) | about 10 years ago | (#10505217)

PCs have always had speakers in them! If yours doesn't at least beep when turned on, your speaker is disconnected. What they don't have is integrated BIOS support for any digital audio hardware that may be installed. Some do have some sort of DSP on board that speaks diagnostic messages to you in case of a hardware failure.

Regardless, this is all irrelevant as this is a software emulator and not a means of actually booting MacOS on a PC. RTFA.

Sweet! (1)

sljgh (742290) | about 10 years ago | (#10505073)

After 12 years at macs my iBook died and I built a PC. So long Mandrake Linux... Hello, again, OS X! Wooot!

Great! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10505077)

Now I can finally run all my games!

OS X on PC's??? (5, Funny)

bpatterson (554715) | about 10 years ago | (#10505079)

What a perversion.... I'm going back to getting my Cuisenart to run Debian. - B

this looks great (-1, Troll)

naiv (768305) | about 10 years ago | (#10505081)

i've always wanted something like this! now only if i could get it illegally.... i think i am in the top 20 or 30 of posters for this link, i feel special.

one problem (-1, Flamebait)

over_exposed (623791) | about 10 years ago | (#10505090)

It's still running on top of Windows. You won't get the "Mac advantage" because it'll crash, hang, stall - you name it. It will behave like any normal windows app. Now that's not to say there aren't good windows apps, far from it.

One thing I've always liked about my Mac (I use both Macs and PCs) is the stability of it. I haven't turned off or reset my Power Book in over 4 months and I use it heavily on a daily basis. MOST people don't have that stable of an installation of Windows to begin with.

System 7.5.6 (1)

mekkab (133181) | about 10 years ago | (#10505149)

One thing I've always liked about my Mac (I use both Macs and PCs) is the stability of it.

Us mac users from the past are laughing at your comment. (mostly because we're jealous!)

Bah... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10505154)

You're just FUDing...XP is quite stable. I run it continuously on my desktop in a high-use engineering environment with weeks or months between reboots.

Re:Bah... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10505237)

I run it continuously on my desktop in a high-use engineering environment with weeks or months between reboots.

So are you not counting the reboots required for the critical updates of the week, or do you just not bother to apply those updates?

Re:one problem (1, Offtopic)

rosewood (99925) | about 10 years ago | (#10505181)

We do have that stability in Windows XP. I had a 3 year old XP install on my main box. I normally get multi month uptime on my laptop. Only time Im rebooting is for driver upgrades.

Re:one problem (4, Insightful)

ShdwStkr (454413) | about 10 years ago | (#10505193)

behind on your security patches then, are you? :)

I'll finally... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10505091)

I'll finally be able to play all those games I can't get for the PC platform.

Re:I'll finally... (1)

sljgh (742290) | about 10 years ago | (#10505129)

Somebody mod this shit up. That's funny.

funny thing about it is (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10505093)

seems they are running a .Net server and it is 'too busy' right now :-( .Not is more like it!

wtf its .net again (1)

Jimmy The Tulip (770323) | about 10 years ago | (#10505096)

i think they are running cherry os for their Windoze based webserver too.

Anyone heard of Mr/Ms Cherry before? (1)

xot (663131) | about 10 years ago | (#10505101)

I've never, in any vague reference too heard anything of CherryOS.Don't even know if the company has any credibility or if the software has been tested on any hardware.
You guys heard of the cherry before??This is either totally groundbreaking or aa dud hoax. :-)

But why? (1)

erick99 (743982) | about 10 years ago | (#10505107)

The MacWorld article is very, very short and does not explain why someone would want to emulate the Mac OS on an x86 machine. If it runs at 80% of it's speed on a Mac and it sits on top of an existing operating system, it sounds very kludgey. Is there Mac-only software that people would want to run on their x86 machine? Or, are their folks that really want the Mac OS features on their x86 this badly? It sounds interesting in theory but in practice . . .

Uh... (2, Funny)

chuckcolby (170019) | about 10 years ago | (#10505109)

One can only hope that the emulator is more durable than their web server.

I'd like to see a comparison (5, Interesting)

RangerRick98 (817838) | about 10 years ago | (#10505110)

I wonder how this CherryOS would compare with PearPC [] in terms of speed and functionality. Of course, I don't know much about either product, so I might be comparing apples to oranges (or Cherries to Apples?)

Re:I'd like to see a comparison (5, Funny)

mmusson (753678) | about 10 years ago | (#10505243)

Or cherries to pears?

Re:I'd like to see a comparison (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10505257)

Wouldn't it be Cherries to Pears?

MirrorDot is Useful (2, Informative)

Didion Sprague (615213) | about 10 years ago | (#10505117)

I know it's more fun to bitch and moan about the original site being slashdotted, but if you want to RTFA, then simply go to mirrordot: []

Enough already.

Re:MirrorDot is Useful (3, Interesting)

DigitalRaptor (815681) | about 10 years ago | (#10505212)

Yeah, exept MirrorDot mirrored the site AFTER it crashed. That's funny. Maybe they should change their name to ErrorDot.

Re:MirrorDot is Useful (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10505232)

unfortunately, mirrordot didn't mirror :P

Slow... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10505118)

I tired this and MAN Macs are so slow...

hmm (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10505120)

sounds like they achieved what PearPC [] was trying to accomplish.

I am interested to know if this is actually true...

pathetic (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10505126)

Their windows IIS with ASP.NET box is toast.

Why should I pay money to people who can't even run a decent website than can stand up to a pre-Slashdot effect from subscribers?

Define PC users?!? (1)

dummkopf (538393) | about 10 years ago | (#10505127)

I assume that that Cherry OS runs as a host on some other OS? If so, what is the "host OS"? Will that be Windows, or also Linux? [I would check on the cherrySO site, but it is *already* slashdotted -- at least from Zurich].

one has to question the 80% speed claim (4, Interesting)

HBI (604924) | about 10 years ago | (#10505134)

Even without reading the site. Never mind the shortage of general purpose registers on x86 and the lack of a direct mapping between instruction sets, one has to question any vendor that is running on IIS with debugging enabled and with the .NET framework enabled.

For the reasons why - just look at their site right about now.

Eighty percent is dead accurate! (4, Funny)

PCM2 (4486) | about 10 years ago | (#10505251)

Yes, the process of emulating a PowerPC on an Intel x86 chip takes up 80 percent of your host CPU -- leaving 20 percent for user applications. What's so hard to understand about that?

Cherry Os (5, Funny)

null etc. (524767) | about 10 years ago | (#10505142)

I tried it today... it crashed when I clicked the right mouse button.

Good idea (2, Funny)

rackhamh (217889) | about 10 years ago | (#10505150)

I have some Windows software I need reviewed. What would be the best place to ask? Oh, I know... Slashdot! Of course!

It works (2, Funny)

alecks (473298) | about 10 years ago | (#10505161)

This does work. I'm posting this right now from OSX, running in a window in XP. Ofcourse, XP is actually a VMWare window which I'm seeing through a web-citrix ica client on my sun box. isn't technology great?):

it can't be done (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10505163)

Not no way, not no how it can be that fast.
the x86 chip is considerably less powerfull than RISC chips

Fraud (4, Interesting)

Mr. McGibby (41471) | about 10 years ago | (#10505173)

As pointed out on the comments on the article page, this is most likely a fraud. Writing a VM isn't the easiest thing to do. This software would likely cost much more than $50 because of the effort involved.

PearPC was first and is cheaper. (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10505187)

PearPC [] was first and is cheaper.

Why bother? (1)

Unworthy Advocate (767730) | about 10 years ago | (#10505195)

Running OSX virtually on a PC is like putting a Ferrari engine in a Pinto.

I imagine that the overwhelming majority of people that gravitate toward OSX appreciate and prefer MAC architecture over PC anyway. When I switched, it was a TOTAL switch, for good.

I have no idea (3, Informative)

antifoidulus (807088) | about 10 years ago | (#10505199)

if this will work or not, but if it does, Apple legal won't be happy. The EULA states that you have to run OS X on Apple branded hardware(probably to kill clones), now I am willing to bet for the time being anyway, Apple will look the other way on non-commerical projects like Pear PC, but they probably won't be very keen on a commericial product that violates the EULA.

just buy a mac :-) (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10505203)

Why not just go with inventor of the GUI and the maker of the first 64 bit PC ???

Just buy a mac :-)

You can have the safety of licensed software like Microsoft Office, or you can be risky and run open source applications like Apache.

Re:just buy a mac :-) (1)

natron 2.0 (615149) | about 10 years ago | (#10505226)

Acutally Xerox invented the GUI...

From the CherryOS Site: (4, Informative)

TitusC3v5 (608284) | about 10 years ago | (#10505215)

MXS Inc. announces CherryOS 1.0 October, 08 2004

NEWS RELEASE FOR IMMEADIATE RELEASE Contact: Jim Kartes, 866-661-5699 Media contact same.

Maui, HI (DATE) MXS today announce the immediate availability of Cherry OS software . Cherry OS is a software translator that allows you to install Apple's Operating System on x86 computer architecture. To put it simply you can now run Apple's award winning Panther OS on your PC! This breakthrough in OS development now gives home users, software developers and web designer's ultimate flexibility in both the operating system and hardware platform you use for your personal computer or testing environment.

Cherry OS runs Panther as a virtual machine on your Windows PC. This virtual machine has full network capabilities including the ability to share folders and access the web. The virtual machine also has complete access to the computer's hardware resources including, Hard Drive, CPU, RAM, Firewire, USB, PCI, PCMIA BUS and RJ45/Ethernet and Modem.

Arben Kryeziu, Cherry OS inventor and a software developer, got tired of carrying both a Mac and a PC around with him, so he invented Cherry OS. "Think about it," says Arben. "Now about 600 million PC users can have the MAC advantage. One computer to use all software and if PC users would use MAC software to get email, perhaps they would avoid viruses, Trojans and spy-ware." He went on to say that , "You can build and test applications for a Mac on your development PC, test web site design for Mac web browsers without having to buy the hardware, run OS X, the world's best Operating System, on a less expensive hardware platform and use your favorite Mac apps on a PC."

Pricing and availability
Cherry OS is now available only on line at as a download, for $49.95. (Mac software not included)

About MXS
MXS is a software development company specializing in video streaming software. ranked our vx30 encoder as the best in the world.

The products of Maui X-Stream can be viewed on

Pear PC (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#10505221)

Now we have an alternative. Pay them and run mac 10, or don't pay them, but mac 10 and install Pear PC. Hmmm. 'wonders if anyone will be sued over this'

Good news.. (1)

d_jedi (773213) | about 10 years ago | (#10505235)

I've always wanted to give OS-X a try, but I was not willing to spend the thousand(s) of dollars necessary in order to buy the hardware to run it on.. my Athlon64 system suits me just fine, thank you. I only need ONE machine, and since Windows is the only real choice for gaming, x86 is the way to go.

That said, it's a shame that Apple doesn't release OS-X for x86 hardware..

IMO doubtful (1)

hotspotbloc (767418) | about 10 years ago | (#10505240)

IMO this seems doubtful. Their speed claims seem unrealistic, their web site ( is almost brand new (2004-07-12), nothing on USENET and no independent reviews. I suspect their software is a rehash of a past Mac emulator.

It just seems too good to be true.

Sorry (1)

hotspotbloc (767418) | about 10 years ago | (#10505263)

no independent reviews

I meant "no other independent reviews"

from TFSite (5, Funny)

justforaday (560408) | about 10 years ago | (#10505244)

You can install all your favorite mac applications on your PC like iLife, iTunes and Photoshop ... to name just a few.

WoW!!! I can finally run iTunes and Photoshop on my PC!!!

Killer app... (1)

Joseph Vigneau (514) | about 10 years ago | (#10505258)

Can Cherry OS run Virtual PC?
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