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Cheap DivX Solution For Your Entertainment Center

timothy posted more than 9 years ago | from the so-lotr-extended-can-fit-on-one dept.

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joemite writes "I-O DATA recently announced the release of their LinkPlayer, which can decode DivX files from DVDs, CDs, USB thumb drives, and network file shares. At $249 suggested retail, I know what I'm wishing for this Christmas!" For simpler (no network shares, no thumb drives) and even cheaper set-ups, a few standalone DVD players -- the Philips DVP642 is one -- will play DivX files from recordable CDs andd DVDs.

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275 comments

But does it support Xvid? (4, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10552185)

For those of us that prefer a better, open-source codec?

Allow me to be the first to say: (1)

Fecal Troll Matter (445929) | more than 9 years ago | (#10552204)

What the fuck?

Re:Allow me to be the first to say: (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10552253)

Fecal's momma sucks nigger cocks! Ive sawn it myselve!

Re:But does it support Xvid? (5, Informative)

lakin (702310) | more than 9 years ago | (#10552219)

From the iodata product page [iodata.com] :
Supported Video MPEG-1/MPEG-2/DivX® VIDEO/XviD/WMV9

Re:But does it support Xvid? (4, Informative)

Naffer (720686) | more than 9 years ago | (#10552395)

Does it do Xvid with Global Motion Compensation? Last I'd heard there weren't any Xvid standalone players that could handle it.

Re:But does it support Xvid? (3, Interesting)

teko_teko (653164) | more than 9 years ago | (#10552252)

Yea, I wish there's some kind of video/dvd player that has small harddrive where we can install the latest codecs/plugins to.

Re:But does it support Xvid? (4, Insightful)

tepples (727027) | more than 9 years ago | (#10552372)

I wish there's some kind of video/dvd player that has small harddrive where we can install the latest codecs/plugins

There is. It's called an Xbox. And even if you live in an area with anti-modchip laws and strict enforcement thereof, there's always Mini-ITX boxes.

Re:But does it support Xvid? (4, Informative)

Cocodude (693069) | more than 9 years ago | (#10552279)

Most DVD players that support DivX support MPEG-4 based codecs, of which XviD is one. My DK Digital DVD player supports DivX, but in reality plays most of my XviDs and no doubt other MPEG-4 codecs.

Re:But does it support Xvid? (1)

Chris Pimlott (16212) | more than 9 years ago | (#10552291)

Yes, why keep saying DivX, most peple use XviD now.

Re:But does it support Xvid? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10552432)

It does indeed. The real question is, does it support multi audio channel, switchable subtitle .ogm and .mkv container formats for us anime geeks?

Pr0n (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10552186)

Portable Porn!

MythTV (4, Insightful)

dorward (129628) | more than 9 years ago | (#10552190)

Cute, but I still plan to build my own around MythTV [mythtv.org] . That will work both ways (allowing me to record TV and then view it over the network) as well as dealing with DVDs and MAME.

Re:MythTV (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10552334)

Let us know when u r done

Re:MythTV (2, Informative)

homer_ca (144738) | more than 9 years ago | (#10552348)

Now can you build an HTPC that's quiet, not 3 times the size and weight, and doesn't use 4 times the electricity of a DVP642? I have one now, and I'm retiring the HTPC. But to be fair, I never got it working as well as I wanted, and I could have spent more time on tweaking it.

Cheaper Divx (3, Informative)

Buster Chan (755016) | more than 9 years ago | (#10552193)

For cheapter DIVX, you can buy a Sega Dreamcast, then download the DIVX playing boot-disc from http://www.dcemulation.com

Re:Cheaper Divx (2, Informative)

Joe Tie. (567096) | more than 9 years ago | (#10552224)

As much as I love the dreamcast (and still write for it), I don't think it'll meet most peoples needs for movie playback. It's worked well for me simply because I do my own captures and so encoding to a size and bitrate which would go along well with the player. But the size and bitrate limitations come down pretty hard on a lot of what's out there right now, without re-encoding, if it's used with the DC player.

Re:Cheaper Divx (1)

gl4ss (559668) | more than 9 years ago | (#10552270)

it doesn't handle high enough bitrates to be really useful though.

xbox does that better(modded, of course)..

Re:Cheaper Divx (1)

ImaLamer (260199) | more than 9 years ago | (#10552305)

While I love the Dreamcast (practiacally downloaded every game for it!) I can't recommend this as a solution.

Ever tried the VCD player? VCD's have, by standard, constant bit rates and pretty easy to decode as they are uncompressed files - the Dreamcast doesn't do that task very well. You'll notice blocks and 'smears' where you never seen them before.

Re:Cheaper Divx (2, Informative)

AnyoneEB (574727) | more than 9 years ago | (#10552346)

VCDs are compressed with MPEG1 at a resolution about a quarter of regular TV. More info on the VCD format [wikipedia.org] . In my experience, VCDs look pretty bad no matter what device you're playing them on.

Re:Cheaper Divx (4, Informative)

ImaLamer (260199) | more than 9 years ago | (#10552412)

In my experience, VCDs look pretty bad no matter what device you're playing them on.

Well, you've not had the right VCD's! I've encoded some beauties. Plus you need a good decoder, because as I mentioned some don't fully decode the entire stream (they do their best giving you artifacts).

The issue about resolution is *almost* pointless when you realize your TV (if not HD) isn't that great to begin with and it scales very well.

But then again it all goes back to good encoding.

Re:Cheaper Divx (1)

bani (467531) | more than 9 years ago | (#10552418)

you can't play just any divx with it though. you need to encode divx files within tight restrictions that can play on the DC's limited cpu.

Yea but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10552194)

Does it run linux?

Re:Yea but... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10552272)

No. It actually works.

Won't the MPIAA have a hissyfit? (2, Interesting)

rei_slashdot (558039) | more than 9 years ago | (#10552196)

Weren't they suing ESS or whoever made chips for a bunch of the lowcost/cheap DVD players?

Sounds a bit pricey (3, Interesting)

neo5064 (822494) | more than 9 years ago | (#10552197)

At $249, that seems to be a bit pricey for a DivX decoder. Although I suppose the money you'd save by stealing the movies off of your favorite P2P network or torrent source would eventually overcome that.

But what about buying an S-Video cable to hook into the TV, and play it from your computer? Or even better, some cheap DVD encoding software to play it on anyone's system?

Re:Sounds a bit pricey (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10552220)

I always get the feeling that people who suggest to just 'burn to DVD', have never had to actually sit around waiting for a DVD to burn. :( It sucks, even at 8x.

Re:Sounds a bit pricey (2, Interesting)

fireboy1919 (257783) | more than 9 years ago | (#10552489)

Yeah? What about if you have a bunch of cartoons you recorded from television and converted to DIVX and you want to make a DVD?

Do you have any idea how long rerendering to MPEGII takes? Not only that, but you have to create some kind of menu system to even read the files!

I'd much prefer the hour or two it takes to Burn to the eight hours of computation + hour of human labor of creating a DVD from scratch. I can even do that right before bed and have a brand new DVD waiting for me in the morning.

Re:Sounds a bit pricey (2, Informative)

NETHED (258016) | more than 9 years ago | (#10552228)

Walmart has a great DIVX player for REALLY Cheap. Here's a Link [walmart.com]

I bought one a few weeks back and it plays pretty well.

Re:Sounds a bit pricey (1)

jerkychew (80913) | more than 9 years ago | (#10552368)

You're missing the convenience factor. No PC to boot up means no noise, no hassle with crashes and the like, etc. Plus, it's a small, familiar form factor. It fits nicely in your entertainment center with all your other equipment. Sure, you could buuild a small form-factor HTPC, but it would be arguably more expensive, and much more complicated to set up.

I think there's a decent niche market for a product like this. I know quite a few people that would buy something like this at the $250 price point instead of trying to build their own boxes.

Why is this news? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10552411)

Why is this news? There have been similar players out for nearly a year. e.g.:

Pinnacle Showscenter
Actiontec MediaPlayer
D-Link DSM-320
Neuston

Open Show Center [sourceforge.net] (OSC on Sourceforge) is an open source software for running them too.

I personally have 1.2 TB of movies ripped to Xvid on an old pentium running Apache that feeds my Actiontec MP.

What buy an Xbox. (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10552198)

Xbox and Modchip costs less than that. Plus it can do alot more than just play divx files.

I WANT! (2, Insightful)

shaneFalco (821467) | more than 9 years ago | (#10552199)

Seems quite interesting. What would be really nice would be the option of connecting to a network wirelessly in order to access video files stored on other computers in the house. Maybe even a file browser akin to Konquorer for the computer illeterate in my house. I want one!

I'd rather wish for a chipped Xbox (3, Interesting)

ttlgDaveh (798546) | more than 9 years ago | (#10552203)

Because it plays DVDs (region free too), media in almost every format under the sun and games too.
On the downside the chipping process may be on the wrong side of "legal" depending on where you are, and the majority applications are, as they're compiled using MS's SDK. Other than that it is excellent, much better than any stand-alone appliance I have come across.

Re:I'd rather wish for a chipped Xbox (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10552317)

And if you are lucky enough to get one that has a half decent DVD drive (i.e. a small minority of those manufactured) then it might even be able to read CD-Rs too!

Damn crappy ass Thomson piece of shit... *smacks Xbox*

Not that great of a value.... (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10552206)

Why not buy an Xbox($149 new), mod it ($50 shipped) and use XBMC? It does all of that plus music and weather.....and you get a kick ass console.

You save $50 and you have a lot more functionality.

Re:Not that great of a value.... (4, Informative)

Stevyn (691306) | more than 9 years ago | (#10552282)

And you can play xbox games by just ripping them to the hard drive (which you can upgrade to hold a LOT of games. You can also play any NES, N64, Sega Genesis, and I'm sure several other console games. Few people know how amazing a modded xbox is. The only downside is you're taking revenue away from Microsoft.

Did I say downside?

Re:Not that great of a value.... (2, Insightful)

Acidic_Diarrhea (641390) | more than 9 years ago | (#10552301)

What you mean is that you're stealing from MS and other companies that publish games for the XBox when you download and burn games. Contrary to what you may have heard, just because you don't like a particular company does not mean that you have the right to pirate their products or services.

Re:Not that great of a value.... (1)

secolactico (519805) | more than 9 years ago | (#10552344)

The only downside is you're taking revenue away from Microsoft.

But will you be able to connect to Xbox Live? I never realized how much I sucked until I got my ass handed over and over and over to me in almost any network capable game. But dang, was it fun.

Re:Not that great of a value.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10552409)

You can connect to Xbox Live with a modded xbox. Do a google.

Re:Not that great of a value.... (1)

Student_Tech (66719) | more than 9 years ago | (#10552307)

But it doesn't do USB thumb drives (or anything via USB yet, unless that has been added in the last few months) on the Xbox nativly. Of course if you are doing network file shares, just plug the USB device into a network file server and go from there.
Plus if you go software exploit you don't even have to pay for the mod chip (or the TSOP flash method), of course if you get a really new Xbox those (software & tsop) aren't really working and you would need the chip.

Re:Not that great of a value.... (0)

tepples (727027) | more than 9 years ago | (#10552385)

Why not buy an Xbox($149 new), mod it ($50 shipped)

How much is going to jail worth? Some countries have begun to crack down on Xbox modchip vendors and installers.

Re:Not that great of a value.... (1)

Kenshin (43036) | more than 9 years ago | (#10552484)

Boy, don't they have you running scared?

They're not arresting people for having a mod chip installed.

Quality (1)

fembots (753724) | more than 9 years ago | (#10552211)

I haven't used DivX for 2 years now, how is the quality nowadays?

I would imagine for portable entertainment devices, DivX might come in handy because of the size.

However, if I am to watch something on my home entertainment center, I want the highest quality possible.

Re:Quality (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10552388)

It's higher quality at the same bitrate, and you can choose to lower it only as much as you feel your super eyes and golden ears will allow. I'd gather you could probably lower it to 50% of the MPEG2 streams size and not be able to notice the difference, especially not in a blind test. Oh, and the quality of DivX has pretty much always exceeded that of DVD, even 2 years ago, just that most people push for a lower bitrate because they don't think the difference is worth the extra space.

Re:Quality (2, Informative)

tomstdenis (446163) | more than 9 years ago | (#10552392)

flamebait...

You know you can

1. Do two pass encoding
2. Use a ***HIGHER BITRATE***

Those rips off kazaa you got 2 years ago were probably one-pass 384kbps files or something...

Two-pass 2Mbps should look perfect even at 720x480. If you're not so anal you can get by with as little as 800Kbps.

Tom

Already have a cheap Divx solution. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10552215)

It's called Mplayer.

My entertainment system, is also a computer.

I run mythtv for my telivision, and will often use mplayer to run stuff.

With my computer I avoid having to have:

a cd jutebox.
a mp3 player
a dvd player
a time-shifting box
a cable box

it's funny because I go to my dad's house and he has a stack of different electronic devices for all the different media and things that he can do with his entertainment center.

i have 3 things:
TV
Linux Box with DVD burner and remote keyboard/mouse/remote control
digital receiver

And hell I can burn CDs or DVD's, and he hasn't bought a device to do that.

Don't Jump the Gun (2)

Pugio (816116) | more than 9 years ago | (#10552216)

I would wait to see how the reviews pan out with this thing. Besides the very bad english on their product page (here [iodata.com] ) players like these don't always work up to spec (obvious but still needs to be said at least once). A fact I found very interesting was the "(Testing)" entry next to their DivX support halfway down the page.

xvid divx (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10552223)

xvid > divx

Commercial DivX DVDs? (2, Interesting)

ShadowFlair (690961) | more than 9 years ago | (#10552230)

I wonder if companies will produce DivX DVDs/CDs for retail sales... that would be pretty neat.

Come to think of it, this is kind of like buying an MP3 stereo/player. I still haven't seen any MP3 CD at my local CD retail yet, but I've seen people burning their own MP3 CDs. At least there aren't record companies going after these MP3 player makers yet, hopefully this will hold true for these divx players.

Re:Commercial DivX DVDs? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10552342)

Why the fuck would I pay for a degraded video disc when I can buy a normal DVD?

Seriously, you do know DivX is a lossy format, right?

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Re:Commercial DivX DVDs? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10552431)

you know DVD (aka "MPEG2") is a lossy format, right?

Re:Commercial DivX DVDs? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10552422)

At least there aren't record companies going after these MP3 player makers yet

Actually, the RIAA already went after the MP3 player market. In 1999, the RIAA tried to enjoin Diamond Multimedia from manufacturing and distributing the Rio MP3 player. The RIAA argued that the Rio lacked a serial copy management system as required by the Audio Home Recording Act (AHRA). Ultimately, Diamond Multimedia won the suit because the Rio was not an audio recording device, and thus not governed by the AHRA.

Now, consider what might happen were this case to be brought against someone like Archos, whose multimedia jukeboxes are capable of recording. The serial copy limitation of the AHRA could easily be applied (IANAL, but I doubt it would stick on appeal). It's precisely this kind of legal history that is behind the continued fight for fair use rights, and opposition to legislation like the INDUCE Act.

Philips DVP642 player mentioned (5, Informative)

nyquil (23124) | more than 9 years ago | (#10552236)

i have 2 of these, theyre really great. amazon has them usually for around $67, they work flawlessly, and will play almost everything you could put in there. i guess theres a couple divx encoders that it cant handle (yet), and i have come across a file or 2 that it wouldnt play, but if you're ripping your own stuff it should be fine. firmware upgradeable as well, just burn new firmware to cdr and follow the instructions. it will play divx/xvid/mpeg4 off cdr, cdrw, dvd+r/rw and dvd-r/rw, as well as being region free and progressive scan. best $67 i've ever spent.

Re:Philips DVP642 player mentioned (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10552283)

That player fails to play new Xvid files encoded to HR HDTV standards. Example from recent file below:

Video Codec : XviD 1.0.2
Video Resolution : 960x528 (16/9)
Video Framerate : 23.976
Encoding Method : 2 pass
Video Bitrate : 2146228 bps Avg
Audio Codec : AC3 (Dolby Digital 6.1)
Encoding Method : UNTOUCHED
Audio Bitrate : 192000 bps (CBR)
Audio Sample Rate : 48000 Hz

Re:Philips DVP642 player mentioned (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10552427)

try encoding the XviD at 720x480 or lower. Anything higher and it won't play. Also the video bitrate is too high.

Standalones are cheap (2, Insightful)

phozz bare (720522) | more than 9 years ago | (#10552240)

They sell standalone DVD players capable of playing DivX, Mp4, Mp3, Jpg, Photo CD, etc etc for about $90 (incl. delivery) here [netaction.co.il] in Israel. These are Chinese players pretending to be German, but they do the job. Please, find something better to do with your $249.

phozz

Xbox, cheaper, more effective (4, Insightful)

Oz0ne (13272) | more than 9 years ago | (#10552244)

a modded xbox

New Xbox $150
Mod Chip $30-60
40 Gig HD $40

Total: $220-250

Will play DVDs region free, divx, xvid, quicktime, wmv, mpeg, avi, dv, mp3, view photos/slideshow, stream mp3 from internet radio stations, get the weather... etc.

Only true geeks will want the hardware mentioned in the article... and true geeks can do much better, cheaper, and have more fun doing it themselves.

Re:Xbox, cheaper, more effective (1)

MightyPez (734706) | more than 9 years ago | (#10552343)

Hell, you don't even need a mod chip. Just find someone with an Action Replay and a copy of Splinter Cell, 007 Nightfire, or Mechassault.

Re:Xbox, cheaper, more effective (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10552429)

Hell, you don't even need the Action Replay.

Go directly to jail (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 9 years ago | (#10552402)

OK, so a modded Xbox with a bigger hard drive will run you about the same price. However, how much will the get out of jail free card cost in case the feds (or local equivalent) show up at the door of every modchip installer in town?

Re:Go directly to jail (1)

TheUnknownOne (810624) | more than 9 years ago | (#10552477)

From what I understand, using a ModChip is not illegal, neither is installing one. Making or buying a modchip may be another story. Using the modchip to do illegal things is obvciosly illegal, but it would not be illegal to use said modchip to play a DVD without the remote control kit, or to check your email while your XBOX is running Linux. By installing Linux without a modchip (MechAssault etc. ) you avoid the issue of even purchasing a modchip.

how bout an xbox? (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10552247)

You can grab em off the shelves here for about 130 these days, you can softmod them using a simple usb stick and make it boot directly into xbox media center.

I don't know if it supports usb thumb drives, but that shouldn't be a really huge problem to implement since xbox uses USB and convertors xbox->usb female are available or can be build real easy.

http://www.xboxmediacenter.de/

Maybe two years ago (1)

NMerriam (15122) | more than 9 years ago | (#10552250)

I remember dying to get a commercial standalone player able to play DivX, XVid, etc a few years ago, but even the super-expensive ones had woefully underpowered Sigma decoder chips.

Now, there are dozens out there, and none of them have half the functionality, much less the low price, of a modded XBox.

The fact that the Xbox also plays games is essentially a bonus feature -- it's a $150 universal media player that sets up in minutes and plays very well with other high-end AV components.

Or... (1)

Tuffnut (618438) | more than 9 years ago | (#10552259)

You could get a modded xbox for about $200 that will play DVD, CD, SVCD, VCD, DIVX, MPEG, XVID, all streaming over a network from your computer.

a cute blue alternative (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10552263)

400-600MHz SGI O2 w/a/v card running debian & MPlayer. approx.$250

Re:a cute blue alternative (1)

MarkTina (611072) | more than 9 years ago | (#10552408)

And how will you install Debian on the O2 ?

Mmm, Engrish. (5, Funny)

modifried (605582) | more than 9 years ago | (#10552264)

From the product page: [iodata.com]

"And DHCP server function help you to setup IP address automatically.We guarantee you, your familiy or your guest have an exciting time!"

"Oustside enjoy listening music or shooting photos, and then after going back home, you just insert your gadjet to this USB port. LinkPlayer can pickup inside any files for your relax time."

"LinkPlayer remote controller is not normal. Many buttons for your convinience."

"We will keep to make much effort for your satisfaction. Now the following certifications have already been passed. Also we'll update more after finish. Don't miss anymore."

Re:Mmm, Engrish. (0)

EnronHaliburton2004 (815366) | more than 9 years ago | (#10552478)

"And DHCP server function help you to setup IP address automatically.We guarantee you, your familiy or your guest have an exciting time!"

"Hey Dude! Whatcha doin!?"

"It's Saturday night! I'm playing with DHCP! The 169.254.x.x subnet rocks my world!"

"WooooooooHOOOOOOOOO! Exciting!"

(Sadly, I *was* fixing DHCP last night... but I have a baby boy, and can't go out anyways...)

You know, I just don't understand this. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10552265)

EVERY DivX / Xvid video I have EVER seen looks like total shit. Is it that nobody encodes at a decent bitrate, or is it that DivX just isn't up to the task? I've encoded my own videos, and at the lowest bitrate that I considered decent it took up enough space that the time it took to encode it just worth it.

DVP642 is really nice (1, Redundant)

mbourgon (186257) | more than 9 years ago | (#10552266)

I think I paid $70 for it at Target. Plays DivX, MPEG 1/2, Xvid, MP3s... just toss files on a CD or DVD and away you go. The Philips web site has an ISO with an upgrade, so it plays files better.

Only problem I've run into is playing PAL files on a NTSC TV - tried changing its output format, but no luck. Anyone have that working? It could be an old DivX file (it does have some problems with 3.11), I'm not sure. But, overall, this thing's amazing.

Re:DVP642 is really nice (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10552303)

No problems playing PAL files (of PAL DVDS for the matter) on an NTSC set. I would check the integrity of the file you are trying to play, because I have had nothing but success with my machine. I highly recommend the DVP642.

Just get a modded xbox (1)

martel69 (799652) | more than 9 years ago | (#10552268)

For $250 you can have somebody mod it for you, and it'll do way more than this device will. or you can save money and mod it yourself....and with xbox media center you can watch pretty much any video codec out there, and play games even. i was looking at these devices myself, but for the money you can't beat the xbox

philips dvp642 (2, Informative)

tie_guy_matt (176397) | more than 9 years ago | (#10552269)

I love my philips dvd/divx player. It is a pretty good stand alone dvd player but it plays a million other formats too. The only problem is that mine has trouble playing divx4 movies. In mencoder instead of using vcodec=mpeg4 I have to use vcodec=msmpeg4 (divx 3.) Divx3 is nice (alot better than mpeg2) but when I play with divx 4 I see that it has higher quality at lower bitrates. If anyone has gotten their philips player to play divx4 movies I would be interested to know.

Re:philips dvp642 (1)

AtariKee (455870) | more than 9 years ago | (#10552441)

The DVP642 won't read IDX + SUB subtitles either. Nor does it fast-forward or reverse to quickly (8x max). Other than these minor problems, I love my DVP642.

Have you tried a firmware update? I've been meaning to do this with my dvp642, but haven't gotten around to it yet (playing around with my "special" Xbox :) ). Maybe that will help with your divx4 problem. I think it would also fix the IDX + SUB problem.

Softmodded Xbox (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10552276)

Do what I did and softmod an XBox. Softmodding requires no soldering, is easy and most importantly, is free. Sure, you won't be able to deactive the mod so that you can play on Live, but I'm not interested in that anyway.
For the rare occasions when I wish to play some networking games with friends, we just use one of the free services available.

Sound cool but... (1)

buttfuckinpimpnugget (662332) | more than 9 years ago | (#10552284)

That's the same price as a soft modded Xbox with a 250 gig harddrive.

Goodmans DivX Decoder (2, Informative)

amembleton (411990) | more than 9 years ago | (#10552295)

Goddmans make a DivX Player model: DVD161DIVX 5.1 DVD Player.

If you are in the UK you can pick one up for £60 from Argos [argos.co.uk] . I have one, and find that it works very well whilst also looking good. All my videos play fine except for Real Player ones.

GeeXboX (1)

amembleton (411990) | more than 9 years ago | (#10552318)

You could use the GeeXboX Linux distribution [geexbox.org] . I haven't used it for a year but from what I remember it is a LiveCD. You boot up and can then access any network shares (including Windows) from your network. It will then play pretty much anything.

GeeXboX Roolz (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10552386)

It is a LiveCD, but can be installen on HD.

You can access any network shares, Hard Disks, DVD, etc.

And you can upload files using the FTP Server of GeexBox to the HD.

Support for external USB SmartMedia and CompactFlash cards readers

MPlayer to 1.0pre5

WiFi support and drivers

TV-Out

DVP642 FFmpeg problems, and PC tv-out issues (4, Interesting)

tachyonflow (539926) | more than 9 years ago | (#10552325)

I bought a Phillips DVP642 DVD player a while back, and was rather disappointed. I've recorded a great deal of content with FFmpeg (with VBR mp3), and very little of it would play well on this box. I ended up getting rid of the box. (And I did upgrade the box to the latest firmware.)

My main annoyance with PC tv-out's (i.e. the one on my MythTV box) is that they don't provide 1:1 scanline mapping output of the video. In other words, the video card provides you with a framebuffer of arbitrary size (640x480, 800x600, etc.) and maps that into about 400 or so lines of NTSC output. In other words, it destructively scales the image and breaks the ability to show true interlaced content. It's possible to "overscan" the output, but this in no way guarantees a 1:1 scanline mapping. I do have a PVR350, which does have a proper 1:1 scanline mapping, but the last time I tried using it for general video output (i.e. playing MPEG4 files with mplayer), it was not fast enough to keep up. It's incredible for playing back MPEG2 content with the decoder, though.

If the LinkPlayer works well and has a proper, well-designed TV out, it may be worth looking into.

Re:DVP642 FFmpeg problems, and PC tv-out issues (1)

phozz bare (720522) | more than 9 years ago | (#10552419)

My main annoyance with PC tv-out's (i.e. the one on my MythTV box) is that they don't provide 1:1 scanline mapping output of the video.

1. Get an nVidia GeForce card for your PC, not necessarily the flashiest.

2. Set it to output NTSC/M.

3. Set resolution to 720x480x32bit. (if you use windows it'll be under "list all modes", you can double click to set it.)

4. Set flicker filter to 'none', overscan to maximum, refresh at 60hz.

5. ????

6. etc.

If you're not using Windows, may the mighty Tux help you my friend.

phozz

Nobody mentioned the best bit. (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10552328)

Unless I am mis-reading the article the LinkPlayer supports playback of HD-DIVX. I assume the output is also HD (whats a D4 connector?). If so, that is indeed a big deal. None of the other players I am aware of can playback HD content.

What's wrong with laptops? (5, Interesting)

prostoalex (308614) | more than 9 years ago | (#10552339)

What's wrong with attaching a laptop with S-Video output to the TV? I also plug my 5.1 audio-system into the audio jack of the laptop and get the full surround sound. Plays DivX, WMV, RealVideo, MPEG and whatever they come up with.

Re:What's wrong with laptops? (1, Insightful)

tomstdenis (446163) | more than 9 years ago | (#10552375)

Because buying a 1500$ [what they cost new around Ottawa] laptop to play DivX files is stupid?

A cheaper 400$ mini-ITX setup will do the job too and the extra 1100$ can be used to say rent a lot of videos to rip ;-)

Tom

Re:What's wrong with laptops? (1)

Johnny Doughnuts (767951) | more than 9 years ago | (#10552390)

shoddy quality.

Re:What's wrong with laptops? (1)

mrsev (664367) | more than 9 years ago | (#10552391)

price!

ATI Video Cards with TV Out (3, Informative)

frank249 (100528) | more than 9 years ago | (#10552351)

I had been looking for a way to play Divx files on my TV for awhile. I had considered a Divx capable DVD player but you cannot just go to Best Buy or Future Shop to get one. I thought about a wireless solution but they are still very pricy. I found the easiest and cheapest solution was to buy an ATI video card with TV out.
The 9200SE [ati.com] supports the latest games and dual monitors with DIV and has TV out/s video all for about $80cdn Yes my computer has to be close to the TV but I also have it conected to my stereo for home theatre and mp3s. Playing movies from the hard drive also saves having to burn DVDs/CDs. For me, it was the cheapest way to have my home multimedia centre.

$60 player... (1)

Trillan (597339) | more than 9 years ago | (#10552376)

I picked up a $60 multi-region DVD & VCD player the other day. I'm not sure about DivX in particular yet, because I don't have any DivX discs...

Re:$60 player... (1)

matticus (93537) | more than 9 years ago | (#10552471)

If you don't know if it has DivX, it probably doesn't. It's still a niche feature. Players are getting more common, but still only a very small proportion of the market.

And upgrading codecs? (1)

myowntrueself (607117) | more than 9 years ago | (#10552383)

So when the next version of the DivX codec comes out and you wind up with a CD with an avi using that codec and the earlier version of the codec won't play it, can this newfangled widget install the newer version?

Re:And upgrading codecs? (1)

gl4ss (559668) | more than 9 years ago | (#10552404)

only if the new encoder produces stuff the old decoder can't decode.

besides, it wouldn't be that far fetched for there to be firmware updgrades, other similar devices get them.

Re:And upgrading codecs? (1)

TPoise (799382) | more than 9 years ago | (#10552453)

With XBMC (XBOX Media Center) the new XViD/DiVX codecs are usually included in the latest CVS releases, so you just upgrade that. Sometimes these standalone players offer firmware upgrades that you download ISOs and burn to update, but usually are very slow to release. Personally I prefer the XBox so I can just download from my network instead of having to burn a bunch of CDs. It still amazes me why there aren't any "official" Media Players out for XBox from Microsoft. I'm sure porting WMP shouldn't be that bad. Even if they offered an xbox version for $20, they would still be able to sell millions off the sell of the copies, and then not to mention the millions from ad placements they do inside WMP.

Better solution... (1)

Brandon One (760352) | more than 9 years ago | (#10552397)

My modded XBox is a but better solution. And assuming you already own an XBox. Cheaper too.

Liteon DVD players (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10552407)

I have an LVD-2001, but the LVD-2010 [liteonit.com] is it's replacement model. There was some bitching and moaning about end-user formats and stuff, so the 2010 doesn't do as much as my 2001. But it plays Xvid absolutely perfect, and there's really no reason to ever use MPEG2 for it. Divx plays ok, as long as you keep to the "standards" for it's encoding.

I also have a LVW-5001 [liteonit.com] .
It's wonderful, too, even though it doesn't play mpeg4. I swapped out the original Liteon 401M optical drive, for a newer 812S drive. I also added some vent holes; it had none from the factory, since the 401M is a class-1 laser device, and put a heatsink on the main encoding/decoding chip. I also managed to get some metal shavings somewhere in the 401M, which is why I had to swap it out for a 812S. It's encoder probably isn't the best in the world, but the 1 and 2 hour formats are absolutely wonderful.

Liteon makes absolutely wonderful Xvid/Divx solutions. They aren't made for playing mp3's (they can, thought the play options are limited).

ALMOST FORGOT! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10552434)

The players (not the recorders) will also play Ogg Vorbis. They just added the functionality in the last firmware update.

hauppauge mediamvp (1)

enrico_suave (179651) | more than 9 years ago | (#10552447)

Hauppauge MediaMVP [hauppauge.com] is less than 100 bucks at PCAlchemy [pcalchemy.com]

There's pleny of mediamvp hacking [shspvr.com] (including work on a mythtv client) and 3rd party client replacements out there like gbpvr [gbpvr.com] (how to article on my site [byopvr.com] )

*Shrug*

e.

XBMC + Chipped XBOX (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10552455)

Hmm, a chipped xbox with xbmc would be cheaper and maybe more versatile... I know over here their only £100 + say £30 for the chip (you can get an adaptor if you need to use usb stuff)... Sure its a big ugly black box, but you get a lovely open source interface, and the power of mplayer for playing all kinds of media + there is dvd player software, you can play games if you want, emulate all the old stuff, read your network shares... really for the price it is unbeatable.

HD is the key feature (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10552475)

The I-O Data player is the first to be certified for DivX HD. Its NOT just a "regular" DivX player like all the rest mentioned by others.

From Divx.com site in hardware section:

Product Overview

New from I-O Data, this HD-capable AVeL LinkPlayer 2 with its network capability lets you play your digital videos directly from your computer in addition to standard DVDs and DivX files from a CD. Having recently achieved DivX HD Certification, this player supports DivX HD at 1280x720 and has USB 2.0 for USB storage reading. Not yet available for sale. Coming soon to Japan and the United States, just in time for the holiday season!
Key Features

* DivX Certified to play HD
* 10/100 Base Network Communication Function (WiFi is not included, needs an ethernet converter)
* Multi Video/Audio Out (Video:D4/Audio:5.1ch) via a home network
* High Grade DVD/CD Playback (High Definition DVD supported)
* USB 2.0 High Speed Storage Reading for iPod, HDDs, and thumb memories
* Supported OS: Windows XP/Me/2000/98SE, MacOS X 10.3
* Supported Video Files: MPEG-1/MPEG-2/DivX video/XviD/WMV9
* Supported Picture Files: JPEG/BMP/GIF/PNG
* Supported Audio Files: MP3/AAC/WMA/PCM/Ogg Vorbis
* Video Output: D Connector (Component) 1080i/720p/480p/480i, Composite, & S-Video
* Audio Output: Analog Audio Out (L/R) x2, Digital Surround Out (Coaxial) x1 & Optical Digital Out x1
* Display max resolution up to 2048 x 1532
* Main Processer: Sigma Designs EM8620L
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