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Web Sites Shut Down

CmdrTaco posted more than 15 years ago | from the thats-so-not-cool dept.

The Internet 211

Over 600 readers submitted that the popular comic strip User Friendly has been shut down indefinitely following the injunction against the site from an, as yet not publicly named person. This adds Illiad's site to Segfault and Bedope, each of which also has gone down following complaints regarding content.

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Linux Riot (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1953812)

It's a GAS! Can't say I've ever come across better than this one. I'm still rolling.
Regards
Sid.

grain of salt, today (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1953813)

sorry but i won't trust anyone bringing bad news or good today...no fool here

If it is a joke... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1953815)

Then it's a dangerous one. Anyone heard of "crying wolf"?

(not a coward, just can't remember my login)
Rachie

People, check the date (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1953818)

You say it was closed at March 31'st?
Well.. have you noticed that we have something called "timezone" and "dateline"?
Even though it is March 31'st where you live doesn't mean that it is March 31'st all over the world.

About the complaints from you know who...
You may remember, if you have read the comments on UF, that Illiad said that he had talked with his legal advicers, and they say "the company wich name shall be secret" doesn't have a case...

So, my easily fooled friends..
April Fools... ;)

Lets start up a posse (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1953820)

Hey if this isn't a joke. Who's up for forming a posse and hunting down the people who are claiming legal action?
And if it isnt a joke. Who wants to start up a posse and go after who started this thing?

And afterwords we can go destroy Redmond.
All in favor say

NARF!!!!

add pranksters to list of sucks? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1953821)

If it's an April Fool's Joke, Illiad and co. should be added to your list of things that may suck.

I'll see your embarassment over being one of the 600 and raise you having emailed the National Cartoonist Society on behalf of Illiad!

If this is a prank, I'm gonna email them and take back everything nice I said about Iliad.

Enough of this Aprilt 1st thing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1953823)

What next? Slashdot will be shut down? What will we do in the April 1st day? I mean, my favorite sites are down, there's a revolution going on in Redmond, Compaq announces a new revolutionary technology, that's ok. But why can't I see today's User Friendly? And why the hell is Slashdot setting cookies such as "sexual_orientation" and "high_school_gpa"?

People, check the date (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1953824)

Well, from the people I talked to, Segfault went down at midnight GMT and UF went down at midnight EST. So technically, they both went down on 4/01.

ShadoWolf

Joke or not... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1953828)

I'm casting my vote for "joke" (hey--there's a great idea for a poll!)

Of the three, bedope mentioned a real-live pending lawsuit. Such things are matters of public record. If a lawsuit HAS been filed, it's got to be filed somewhere. Logical, no?

So where's the proof?

Sites taken down (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1953830)

Segfault went offline before 10pm EST yesterday actually....


-Aaron
aaron@technologist.com

No april fools joke (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1953832)

No, the unnamed client is unnamed, and this is exactly why. I was wondering why they wouldn't name the client before, as there's no real precedent for not doing so, but it makes sense now. This has all been a gag, and if they'd named someone they could REALLY get sued for libel.

Dont believe in aprils joke (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1953834)

The shutdown of userfriendly.org become apparent
over the last 2-3 weeks, UFies will know.
There were repeating informations about legal
problems.
I hope itll be an aprils joke, and Im being taken but I cant believe it. I dont know about segfault or bedope.

Slashdot next?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1953839)

Lets find out who scagged userfriendly and pee in his cheerios.

Gotta be a joke -- Maybee....Maybee No? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1953840)


The shutdown notice could have come from Microsofts^H^H^H^H^H^H the litigants'
office.. or be a legal formula..?

If thery are still down tomorrow : then I'm gonna worry..

Web Sites Shut Down (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1953842)

Doesn't anyone read The Register (http://www.the register.co.uk)? Yesterday there was a cryptic atricle about NOT revealing a significant April Fool's joke from the sites under litigious attack. Strangely, the artical is no longer on The Register (oh, I'm *shocked*).

It could be Apple? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1953843)

In the last couple of days there was a joke about the Apple iMac and FreeBSD.

So it might not be microsoft causing the damage.

C'mon it's april fools day (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1953846)

Heard someone (I think at an IEEE conference) connected two DecStations together using a tight piece of string. (string telephone)

Apparently it worked, albeit really slowly, only a bit or two per second

Sites taken down (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1953852)

Yes but I belive Segfault is based or at least authored in the UK, and April 1 gets to them at around 9pm E.S.T.

Joke? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1953856)

Hm I find it very strange how all 3 sites shut down on roughly the same day, which is renowned for playing pranks. Also, the 'site closed' page on all the sites bear a striking resemblance to each other.

Support UserFriendly Website (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1953857)

Check this one out... It was made a few days ago. Support UF [perl2000.com]

Enough Already! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1953858)

I don't want to sound like a humourless middle-manager, but really, enough is enough.

I mean, these people aren't fooling anyone, it's annoying, and the really could be more inventive.

Last year on slashdot was good, with the huge screen width. :)

I guess they're the ones losing ad revenue...

Definately an april fools joke. (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1953861)

UF is based out of Vancouver, BC. In Vancouver and Canada in general, we have a tradition of satirising various commercial products. It is perfectly legal to do so, and as such, there is no grounds for the suposed lawsuit to occur. This is a joke taking advantage of the threat he received a week or two ago, pure and simple.

No april fools joke (1)

phil reed (626) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953866)

The 'as-yet-unnamed' complainant is Microsoft's legal department.

And your evidence for this is...? As far as I know, the unnamed entity is remained unnamed all along.


...phil

If this *isn't* a joke.... (1)

phil reed (626) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953867)

then somebody notify the media ASAP.


...phil

Slashdot next?? (1)

bluGill (862) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953871)

Well, yes M$ has the money, but the US has this provision for a fair an speedy trial. If UF talks to the judge they can force the trial to comence within a few weeks. Given the his buisness is shut down (UF does have ads, don't know if it makes money) ANy lengthy delay in the trial would have to be approved by both parties.

Don't overlook UF's ability to counter sue. UF has basicly no money, so they have nothing major to lose. Since this trial is not cut and dried for anyone against them (satire is generally considered protected), UF can sue for disruption of buisness, with a greater chance to win.

I wonder if I can sue. After all I've lose a part of my day, and that is causing pain and suffering.

What about Dilbert? (1)

Matthew Kirkwood (1344) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953878)

Dilbert [dilbert.com] periodically pokes fun at almost every large IT firm, and I don't notice that having been taken down.

I want details, but until they are available, it seems only safe to assume that this is another example of "We can afford expensive lawyers. You can't, so the legality of your actions are irrelevant as we will prevail in any legal action".

I'm no lawyer, but I was led to believe that US law had been shown to protect satirists.

I can easily find bandwidth in the UK for any of those sites taken down if necessary.

Matthew.

US? (1)

Nethead (1563) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953880)

After the border crossing to the US side from Victoria, BC, I can state that the US considers it a forign counrty! It must be the deadhead sticker.

Maybe it was the Canadain Goverment halting him because he didn't mirror his page French.

NOOOOOOOO! (1)

Da w00t (1789) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953885)

NO! NO! Illiad must be allowed to create UserFriendly!! it's the best comic out there!

That, and how come slashdot knows the last time I brushed my teeth, and my social security number?

If it isn't an April fools day joke (1)

Epeeist (2682) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953891)

Let's assume that it isn't a joke. What we need to know is who the company really is that issuing the lawyers letters.

Once we get this far then publicity is the answer.Small, humorous sites being suppressed by a large company is a story too good for the press to miss.

We must fight this, if we don't then we can expect all of our favourite sites, including Slashdot to disappear.

This had better be a joke! (1)

Avenger (3293) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953895)

Damn, my day is ruined!!!! I have to have my dose of UserFriendly every morning ... I can't even look at old ones to satisfy my needs. Ughhh...

If this is a joke I hope they don't get into trouble with MicroSquish because many people are blaming them even though they may not have done anything.

LucasArts?? (1)

blayd (3655) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953899)

The only two entities that get major coverage in UF that I can thing of are Microsoft and LucasArts. Everybody and their brother makes fun of Microsoft, ergo I bet LA is pressing charges for the use of certain Star Wars likenesses.

Of course, this is merely speculation on my part, but they have done similar things in the past, like with MIDI authors, so I wouldn't put it past them.

Scott Banwart
---
Better to stay silent, and let people think
you're an idiot than to open your mouth and

People, check the date (1)

blayd (3655) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953900)

All of a sudden, I feel really stupid. I have got to start checking the date more often... :-)

Scott Banwart
---
Better to stay silent, and let people think
you're an idiot than to open your mouth and

What about Dilbert? (1)

azazel (4633) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953903)

Hear, hear. If this does turn out to be for real, I s'pose the thing is just to put the site up
somewhere other than in the US. To the extent that Illiad remains the author and remains in the
States, this may not help but if he's game, I know we are.

People, check the date (1)

azazel (4633) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953904)

I know the best ones are the most convincing but
if it turns out that this is s'posed to be a joke
I shan't be laughing.

Sure.. (1)

JPelorat (5320) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953905)

Isn't this a bit coincidental? With a certain prank-playing day?

It's gonna be like this all day.. be prepared. =)

People, check the date (1)

JPelorat (5320) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953906)

The really good ones pretty much -have- to be started in advance in order to be believable..

People, check the date (1)

JPelorat (5320) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953907)

[sarcasm]
Yeah, I guess it's too much to assume that Illiad could coordinate with the guy who runs Segfault and whatever other sites are down.. we've given them too much credit for being clever.
[/sarcasm]

If it were 100 sites, yeah, I could see your point, but 3? Hell, that's two emails and 2 response emails minimum to set this up. No sweat. And as for the set-up time.. go check out any of the AFD archive sites, you'll find -very- elaborate and well-planned stunts there..

Very suspect... (1)

JPelorat (5320) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953910)

Or 'Microsoft Twit'

Now let's think about it...Apple (1)

wynlyndd (5732) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953912)

While it is true that UserFriendly commonly uses the likenesses of the Star Wars universe, does the same hold true for BeDope and Segfault?

To be honest, I think it is all an April Fool's joke and am a bit embarassed that I was one of the "600" that submitted the story of UF being down. This is after I laughed at the concerned callers of a local radio station after they ran a story about the "Internet Clean Up day" today in order to clean up the mess of the Melissa Virus and to test Y2K issues.

Still, if it is true, I don't think it is Microsoft(they don't need too much more bad publicity and besides...Dilbert is still around) or LucasArts. Anyone else think it could be Apple?

Userfriendly often makes fun of the iMac(iWhack) which is Apple's cashcow and baby right now. I think we all know how they try to protect their copyrights. This also ties in BeDope (in a fashion). Not sure where Segfault fits in as I only learned of them yesterday...after they were turned off.

Happy April Fools' Day and let's all hope it is just a joke on us.

How about a poll?
1) It's all a hoax
2) It's Microsoft's fault
3) It's LucasArts's fault
4) It's Apple's fault
5) sunspots, dude
6) This poll sucks/Rob sucks/Slashdot sucks

No april fools joke (1)

caveman (7893) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953916)

Those of you who think this is an april fools joke - Think again!.
The 'as-yet-unnamed' complainant is Microsoft's legal department. Illiad has been hassled by them for the past week.
If Illiad is hassled by MS, how long until /. is closed down?

Sites taken down (1)

Fantome (7951) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953917)

Remember, Segfault is across the sea. Different time zone. Nasty trick, isn't it!

What can we do to Help? (1)

nash (8306) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953919)

Assuming this isn't a long planned april fool joke, the main question is what can we do to show our support? Email, /.ing of sites, snailmail? To who - saying what?

Gotta be a joke. (1)

Single GNU Theory (8597) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953921)

First, it's April Fool's Day (in my timezone, anyway).

Second, isn't it just a little suspicious how similar the explanations looked at each site? Formulaic, almost.

Who? (1)

iawia (9172) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953923)

Any ideas who is responsible?
I know M$ is the usual target of UserFriendly gags, but you'd think they'd have had enough bad press lately, and have no need to pull stunts like these to get some more...

Wouter

Very suspect... (1)

Si (9816) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953925)

That legal counsel's name looks a bit dodgy to me:

Michael Scott DeWitt = MicroSoft Do It.

Oh well. Slow morning.

Lawyer a Minnesota porn star? (1)

proberts (9821) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953926)

"MS DeWitt" Such a likely name for a lawyer...

NOOOOOOOOOoooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (1)

azonic (10190) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953927)

As much as I hope this is just an april fools joke, I don't think it is... I think this ones for real.... there has been news up on the pending law suits for awhile now, and as someone else pointed out, segfault went down yesterday, followed by UF and BeDope today... I think this is for real.. and if it is, I think its time to unleash alittle /. effect on behalve of these sites!!! Lets find out who the slime bag sueing them is and /. them into next week! This is just totaly bogus!!!!!!!!!

*oops* well, even if it is a joke... (1)

Pinehill.net (10499) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953928)

I forgot about the date thing.
ah well, even if it is a joke, Its a little to close to home.

the bastards (1)

Pinehill.net (10499) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953929)

I cannot really express my anger, frustration and disappointment that someone would stoop this low.


This is *humor*
funny.... you know, ha-ha?

like my wife said, eveyrone is free to make fun of the president, politicians, etc, but God forbid they poke fun at MicroSloth (or other corp with expensive lawyers.)

bastards

funny.... (1)

cswiii (11061) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953930)

even the Ufies site (http://ufies.userfriendly.org/ [userfriendly.org] ) is down too. They covered all the bases ;)

April 1... otherwise know as April Fool's... (1)

earthy (11491) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953932)

Okay, we all know Be Dope, Segfault and UserFriendly have been shut down. And they've been shut down in *exactly* the same way. Further, the client is unnamed... this is *highly* irregular, and therefore this is very probably indeed a joke.

Now, who'll join me in supporting Linus to buy a Compaq Dynamouse for his laptop to be recharged? The power in Russia is said to be flakey at best...

In other news... (1)

mrsam (12205) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953936)

Redmond (WA) - Today Microsoft announced that the source code for Windows 2000 will be released under the Gnu GPL...

C'mon it's april fools day (1)

awrc (12953) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953937)

There's a new one today - "IP Over Avian Carriers With Quality Of Service", RFC 2549.

Also RFC 2550, which addresses the Y10K problem.

I've been had! (1)

Erisian (13823) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953941)

Here I've been actually worrying about UF and SegFault! April Fools Day indeed. I think I'll not be frequenting those sites again! Hmmph!

Well, at least not until tommorrow when I can start feeding my DustPuppy and Iambe addiction again. ;->

If they're not in trouble now... (1)

John Hays (14371) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953945)

... they will be when a ton of hate mail floods Redmond and MS accuses them of a denial of service attack.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
It's a CONSPIRACY!

April Fool's (1)

vlauria (14396) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953947)

After stupidly being convinced that UserFriendly was down for real. I now relized it is April Fools Day (after reading a few comments) This is a joke, all the sites legal info look the same, and they just prepared very well. They know most of their audience reads /. All their partners websites have been updated with the new logo too, that takes planning, it would take more then a few hours for people to relize to change their websites, hell, its too early in the morning.

re:Lets start up a posse (1)

Nima (14762) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953948)

Its not fair why is this happening their really should be a "posse" of lawyers for the GNU community why not .. Caldera and RedHat could help us out, and the community could get some legal defense... Thats not a bad idea, we have no one to defend us in the courts.

What do you guys think a legal team to defend the GNU community? Do you think its feasible?

negahban@home.com

Noooooo!! (1)

FolkWolf (15127) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953951)

how will I laugh for the next 72 hours?

Ahhh no reason to live (1)

Roofus (15591) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953952)

There's still dilbert.

If there weren't another joke on /. already... (1)

Guttersnipe (15691) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953954)

...I wouldn't even pause to think about it as anything else than as a joke. But now I won't be so sure 'til tomorrow. =/

(Let's hope I'm the fool =)
--> Erik

People, check the date (1)

Caradoc (15903) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953955)

If this is an April Fool's "joke," then all I can say is that I'm not finding it amusing in the slightest.

"Crying Wolf" would be an appropriate term for it.

If it's "for real," then I hope that all of the sites involved file countersuits.

Who? (1)

Darmox (16016) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953956)

>I strongly suspect an odd April Fool's gag. But if it isn't and if MicroWhack is behind it, NT is OUTA HERE!
> They'll just have to find some other package to run the plant. :)
>
Hehee... Yup, if it isn't a gag, my computer becomes 100% M$ free a lot sooner than expected(well, expected is with release of Q3 for linux:)
And then we'd have to look into some of the rioting they had in the previous story:)
Strangly enough, last night, before I read the rioting article, I was dreaming about rioting at M$... Burning CD's and EULA's and stuff... Throwing all my old dos floppies on the fire...
Okay, back now... Must ...restrrrain.... self.

Slashdot next?? (1)

Darmox (16016) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953957)

I very much doubt that Slashdot would be targeted in this way. Other than the "Bill Gates of Borg" icon, I
don't recall seeing anything on Slashdot that Microsoft could complain to Rob about. Read the disclaimer at
the bottom of each Slashdot page: "All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their
respective companies. Comments are owned by the Poster. The Rest © 1997-99 Rob Malda." Whilst some
of the comments posted to Slashdot are clearly inflammatory, Rob makes it clear that, as far as he is
concerned, the buck stops with the person who made the comment, and not with him.

That's the thing, though. A company THAT vast really doesn't need a leg to stand on. They've got money. They just keep filing suits/motions, whatever. The other employees/stockholders are happy cause the lawyers are finally doing something, instead of just sitting around, and no one person could keep up with them. They can just keep putting off the trial, which leaves whichever website it is in question offline. People stop coming to it, pretty soon, it's gone...The Evil Empire could run trials indefinitely. No one could keep up with that.

C'mon it's april fools day (1)

Darmox (16016) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953958)

Actually, it did happen on March 31st, at lesat where I am... Not too long before midnight, but still before...
UF is in Canada--I think in Alberta, so that would be Central Time Zone. It was around 11 EDT when I noticed that UF was down....
I don't know... I hope it's a april fools joke, but it seems pretty realistic, with all the news on the UF site and stuff...
Let me just put it this way:
I wouldn't be surprised.

Not a gag (1)

Straker Skunk (16970) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953960)

This can't possibly be a gag by Illiad. What will he say? April Fools! No company was ever suing me! Funny, eh?

This would not be funny. Illiad has expressed in very sincere terms his uneasiness and gratitude for the support of the community since the first e-mail was received. And let us not forget what sentiments this flagrant persecution of the underdog has already brought about.

I had never felt so appalled at the actions of Microsoft as when I first saw that the "Site Shut Down" page. (Yes, it is not yet known for certain that it is M$, but is there any other company that would have the gall to do this?) And yet at the same time, I felt a bit thrilled. Why?

Because Microsoft is going to regret this.

This is the sort of thing that can turn public opinion. Can you imagine how the media will see this? How many human-interest articles and sound bytes will relate how the multi-billion-dollar corporation shut down a lowly cartoonist's Web site because he made fun of them? How many interviews with Illiad will show that the only danger he poses to Microsoft is as a widely-read and loved member of the non-M$-friendly crowd? How many people will begin to SEE to what depths this supposed innovator of innovators will stoop to in its quest to control the computing technology milieu as we know it?

In the past, Microsoft has destroyed corporations. This was bad, but the victims were always faceless, branded entities. NOT SO HERE.

Long live freedom. Of speech and of software.

April 1st (1)

Jace (17665) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953962)

I'll say this is the best April 1st joke I've ever come across.

Much saner than the what's under your chair kind that everyone comes up with (one person ewrnt around installing Back Orifice on everyone's system around here).

Keep it up UF. You almost had me there. Your "closed" notice even made it to our notice board today morning.

Oh, the humanity... (1)

mountain (17902) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953964)

Anyone who gets sick of April fools, come on down to New Zealand.. It's 1.30am, April 2nd ;)

(yes, that's right I almost took some of this stuff seriously until I remembered the date line, thing)

Lawyer a Minnesota porn star? (1)

dillon_rinker (17944) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953965)

I wanted to see if I could find out if Michael Scott DeWitt (UF's legal counsel) was really a person, really a lawyer, etc, so I punched his name into Alta Vista. It displayed the following:

AltaVista found no document matching your query.

AltaVista Recommends:
Gender & Sexuality > Pornography
States M > Minnesota

And today is (1)

Chewey (19038) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953967)

April 1. Coincidence? I think not. Quite elaborate I must say.

Lie, n.:
A very poor substitute for the truth, but the only one discovered to date.

People, check the date (1)

Migrant Programmer (19727) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953970)

The sites went down on March 31st. Not April 1st. Also, they received the letters about a week ago, if you hadn't noticed on the websites or on /.

Just because the date happens to be 04/01 doesn't mean everything you hear is a joke.

US? (1)

Migrant Programmer (19727) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953971)

Illiad and User Friendly are in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada.

Lets start up a posse (1)

GW Hayduke (19878) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953972)

NAARFFF!!!
Poit!
Zoik
Fjord!

What about Dilbert? (1)

Kiaser Zohsay (20134) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953974)

Epsecially considering this week's (newspaper) storyline. The web strips are a week behind the papers.

NOOOOOOO!!! (1)

redskater (20224) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953975)

they can't shut down userfriendly, I work at a tech support office and my days aren't whole without the daily userfriendly, I'm gonna miss it.

LucasArts?? (1)

AstroJetson (21336) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953978)

I think you're right. Espcially given the context in which the Star Wars likenesses were portrayed (M$ henchmen cast as Imperial Storm Troopers). If I were George, I be a bit peeved too that my characters were being associated with those guys.
AJ

People, check the date (1)

MikeOrr (21603) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953980)

If there had just been *one* site that shut down (and not all three), and if there hadn't been all the talk in the past week over Illiad and Segfault and BeDope getting e-mails and letters from 's lawyers, THEN I might have chaulked it up to April Fool's Day pranks. However there's just too much for it to be a joke.. even old bookmarks right to old archived favs at UserFriendly get a 404 Not Found..

April Fool's? - Maybe but which way (1)

Lensman (21605) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953981)

It may be an April fools joke, but as someone else pointed out, there is a semi-tradition in the "hacker" community. But it may be a joke being played on them. I have no evidence of this, but their sites could have been "cracked" and semi-maliously shut-down as an April Fools joke.

Until such time as someone comes forward with more details, everything else like this is just speculation. And that's the other thing about this possibly being an April Fools joke, there's supprisingly little on the rumor mills. Somebody in this community must know the maintainers of these sites why hasn't anything come around from that angle.

Conspiracy April Fools? (1)

elfguy (22889) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953983)

Shut down dates for these sites (from View site info):

bedope.com 2am Apr 1
segfault.org 23:30 Mar 31
userfriendly.org 5:30 Mar 31

Slashdot next?? (1)

Stephen Williams (23750) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953984)

I very much doubt that Slashdot would be targeted in this way. Other than the "Bill Gates of Borg" icon, I don't recall seeing anything on Slashdot that Microsoft could complain to Rob about. Read the disclaimer at the bottom of each Slashdot page: "All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective companies. Comments are owned by the Poster. The Rest © 1997-99 Rob Malda." Whilst some of the comments posted to Slashdot are clearly inflammatory, Rob makes it clear that, as far as he is concerned, the buck stops with the person who made the comment, and not with him.

Whether this would stand up in court is another matter. I hope it never comes to that. There is also the worry that some corporation could subpoena (is that the right word? I'm not well up on American legalese) Rob and make him hand over the account details of a poster. I think this happened on a Yahoo message board recently.

Coincidence ? (1)

_Spirit (23983) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953986)

Strange coincidence that all off this has been leading up to april 1 ?

Slashdot next?? (1)

Weerdo (24976) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953987)

Then i saw the date...

...OUCH

Menno

Slashdot next?? (1)

Weerdo (24976) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953988)

Hmm..

When Userfriendly, segfault and Bedope goes down because of a lawsuit, guess who's going be the next one??

Frankly I am quite scared to see those site going down because someone doesn't like them.. Which site is next to be taken down??

There still is something called freedom of speach.. Unfortunaly there also is something called 'sueing till bankrupcy'..

Menno

Legal Team (1)

The Big D (26921) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953992)

I am sure this is just a joke - very nicely executed, but a joke. However, the idea of a GNU/Linux legal team isn't a bad one. Might come in handy in the future. There must be some geek lawyers out there somewhere: 'fess up!

It better be... (1)

JatTDB (29747) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953995)

This had better be an April Fools joke, or else I'm gonna bust somebody's head open at whatever corporation is responsible for this.

Support UserFriendly Website (1)

Mithy (30439) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953996)

9pm PST.... that would be midnight EST (or midnight CDT if that's started yet) on April 1, wouldn't it? ;)

"If it's a bad idea, trash it. If it's a good idea, steal it and release the source code."

April fools or not? (1)

mhm23x3 (30474) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953997)

I'm not sure. Scott Remnant has been complaining about these legal problems for quite some time. I just don't know what to think......

People, check the date (1)

remande (31154) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953998)

I honestly don't know either way. While the letters started about a week ago, this simply implies that, if it's a joke, it's a very elaborate one.

This from the culture that planted a balloon on the 50-yard line of the Harvard-Yale game and put a bogus police cruiser on top of a dome. Spending a week setting up an April Fool's joke makes sense, in this context.

Also, the legal notes are particularly miniscule from both sites. The air of wrongness has been around this from the get-go, but we have been chalking it up to legal foul play (a favorite to blame anything from the Internet to bad weather on).

If this is an April Fool's joke, I am humbled to be caught by one of the great ones.

If this is real, somebody has made a big mistake. The benefit of shutting down these sites down will be little compared to the media and legal frenzy that follows.

And people thought that the Slashdot Effect itself was bad enough...

C'mon it's april fools day (1)

dpreformer (32338) | more than 15 years ago | (#1953999)

April fools pranks are a tradition in the hacker community - anyone remember the IP over Avian carriers RFC? This simultaneous cessation is a good prank, but chances are that it is not due to legal action or advice.

Now if this had happened on March 31 or April 2 there'd be a greater likelihood of it being for real.

Backup/Mirror site anyone? (1)

matjes (32908) | more than 15 years ago | (#1954000)

As I don't think that this is a hoax, I'm very dismayed.

Is there a mirror site somewhere which has all the previous cartoons of UF, so one can still download them?

Enough of this Aprilt 1st thing (1)

matjes (32908) | more than 15 years ago | (#1954001)

Re: cookies: I just got:
religion
mothers_maiden_name
sec_sec_num

Seems slashdot tries to fool cookie sniffers by putting bogus data in users' cookie files??

Very suspect... (1)

davehart (32917) | more than 15 years ago | (#1954002)

Ooh, good catch on the lawyers name. Before posting in response to the earlier /. thread on this topic, I tried to find any other web references to a Michael Scott DeWitt without any luck. Seems very likely MS has been set up as a presumptive bad guy in this April Fool's joke.

Consider all the other widespread heckling and parodying of Microsoft (by other comic strips for example) that they don't try to shut down, and consider the 1st amendment and web PR backlash. No way it's Evil Bill Crushing Free Speech.

Ahhh no reason to live (1)

bug_hunter (32923) | more than 15 years ago | (#1954003)

Even if it is an April fools joke. How can I get through the day anymore?? No User Friendly cartoon, I need a laugh to help me get through the harshness of my life.
I need a dust puppy! I need to know what that geek of a marketing manager will do next. Help me!!!

Who? (1)

Rocketboy (32971) | more than 15 years ago | (#1954004)

I strongly suspect an odd April Fool's gag. But if it isn't and if MicroWhack is behind it, NT is OUTA HERE! They'll just have to find some other package to run the plant. :)

Time Zones (1)

zod (95213) | more than 15 years ago | (#1954011)

Don't you hate it?
I used to get sucked in on Usent quite regularly, cause between time-zones and propogation delays, I wouldn't get the article until the 3rd.
"Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men"

String 'em up. (1)

deggy (195861) | more than 15 years ago | (#1954012)

I'll get 'ma Shotgun, someone else bring the rope. We're gonna have ourselves a hanging.

People, check the SCORE (1)

tarcus (206701) | more than 15 years ago | (#1954014)

Hmm, the original post on this thread has been marked up to score 2, is this significant?

--

LucasArts?? (1)

dWhisper (318846) | more than 15 years ago | (#1954015)

Okay... so LucasArts busts down on Illiad, a guy being funny and writing a dang good comic strip, and leaves the Millions of Star Wars fansites, archives, message boards, amatuer writers and the like out there? What is that? We all know MicroSoft is a waste of good Ones and Zeros, but I love LucasArts! So why do they single out UF?

People, check the date (2)

Philem (15707) | more than 15 years ago | (#1954016)

Much as I would like to think that this is a farce, if you had been following the threads from these sites for the past few days, you would have perhaps noticed that there were similar worries about possible legal action.

People, check the date (3)

jandrese (485) | more than 15 years ago | (#1954017)

It's April Fools day, and I think you all just got taken again.

MEEPT!! (3)

The Glorious Meept!! (17395) | more than 15 years ago | (#1954018)

Meept found this article yesterday in "what religion" monthly:

Uh, Uh, Uh.... ohhhh [theregister.co.uk]

This proves that the new test'ment bible was written before Jesus was born.

MEEPT!!

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