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153 comments

Huh... (4, Funny)

catbertscousin (770186) | more than 9 years ago | (#10615131)

Maybe it's just me, but I still think it sounds strange to have a Final Fantasy VII - I guess the first one wasn't so final after all.

Re:Huh... (3, Interesting)

yamcha666 (519244) | more than 9 years ago | (#10615252)

I've always been fascinated over why Square Soft chose Final Fantasy as the name of the series back in the late-80's when they developed Final Fantasy 1 for the NES.

Back then, Square Soft wasn't doing too good financially, and the idea of closing up shop was being floated around. So, Hironobu Sakaguchi, godfather of FF, decided to go out with a bang, and create a wild, adventurous role playing game, and dubbed it "Final Fantasy" as in Square Soft's Final game if you will.

And who would have known that Final Fantasy 1 would resurrect Square Soft and the entire series would turn Square Soft into a legend in the field of console role playing games.

*drooling* Final Fantasy 6 .... mmmmmm

Re:Huh... (1)

mog007 (677810) | more than 9 years ago | (#10616004)

*drooling* Final Fantasy 6 .... mmmmmm

Preach, brother!

Re:Huh... (1)

azmaveth (302274) | more than 9 years ago | (#10616633)

Actually, that story is one of the urban legends of the Final Fantasy fanbase. It was once "disproved", by the fact that Squaresoft wasn't actually in any kind of financial trouble at the time. Then again, my sources probably aren't any better than yours. Wikipedia backs up your story at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy, but then again there aren't any sources available.

Re:Huh... (2, Informative)

michaelnz (701047) | more than 9 years ago | (#10616682)

I was at the a game show in Tokyo last friday and there were a few other sneak peaks that we got a look at. There is going to be a new Final Fantasy 7 universe game, but it's not Advent Children. Instead it's based around the character Vincent. It has a definite gothic flavor to it and seems like it may not be turn based.

The second is the Final Fantasy 7 mobile phone game which looks awesome and fun. It takes place before the original and seems to really flesh out some of the side characters.

I'm a little surprised that SquareEnix has chosen to refocus on Final Fantasy 7 but that may have to do with the appeal of the game to the Japanese market.

fp (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10615140)

frosty piss

Am I the only one... (3, Funny)

kmmatthews (779425) | more than 9 years ago | (#10615141)

That will buy this for the hot chicks in it? :)

Re:Am I the only one... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10615150)

Yes. I suggest getting a life.

Re:Am I the only one... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10615152)

Yes.

Everyone else will just download it and fap. Only morons pay to jerk off to computer animated chicks.

Troll? What? (2, Funny)

JNighthawk (769575) | more than 9 years ago | (#10615513)

I agree with him. I'd never pay for a movie just because of a hot chick. I have a girl friend who obsesses over Brad Pitt movies because he's so hot but gets pissed if I talk about porn stars. What's the difference?!

Difference: (1)

thunderbee (92099) | more than 9 years ago | (#10616081)

One word: "porn" ;-P

Weird numbering system (2, Interesting)

uvsc_wolverine (692513) | more than 9 years ago | (#10615147)

Is it just me, or does the numbering system for the Final Fantasy games/movies seem completely random now?

Re:Weird numbering system (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10615185)

It would seem odd, but they aren't real sequels... normally.

Final Fantasy VII - Advent Chil'rens takes place after what happens in Final Fantasy VII, in the same world. And is thus a sequel.

Final Fantasy X-2 takes place after what happens in Final Fantasy X, in the same world. It's a real sequel. I haven't played it, X was alright but the story seemed like shit at times. And the voice acting was annoying.

The first Final Fantasy through the tenth are just games made by the same company that share similiar aspects in style. Not really sequels, just hardcore branding.

Re:Weird numbering system (3, Funny)

Spy der Mann (805235) | more than 9 years ago | (#10616061)

Well, at least it's better than something like
"Street Fighter the movie", or "Street Fighter the Movie the Game" or -heaven forbid- "Street Fighter the Movie the Game the Movie".

Yeah, it's dumb (1)

TrentL (761772) | more than 9 years ago | (#10615226)

But I remember the numbering schemes being even more confusing with the Mega Man and Street Fighter games.

Re:Weird numbering system (1)

Rosco P. Coltrane (209368) | more than 9 years ago | (#10615287)

Is it just me, or does the numbering system for the Final Fantasy games/movies seem completely random now?

Well, it's not the only one. Some games are numbered 1, 2, 3D, 3D-Atomic, Time-to-Kill, Zero-Hour, Land-of-the-Babe, Max Payne, 4-Ever (aka. Forever), so the FF numbering seems pretty tame to me...

Re:Weird numbering system (1)

TheUnknownOne (810624) | more than 9 years ago | (#10615372)

Look at the numbering system for a good majority of linux distrobutions.... 1;2;3;5;6;6.1;6.2;6.3;7;8;8.1;9;10 (or something similar to that)

Re:Weird numbering system (1)

Conspiracy_Of_Doves (236787) | more than 9 years ago | (#10615428)

At least those numbers are in ascending order order

Re:Weird numbering system (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10615374)

No. It's much more clearer than compared to what it was before. like when they didn't release all of the original 6 here overseas. Straight numbers, with a sequel thrown in. as compared to skipping some, which are only now being made into actual games (for the gb[a]? if I recall correctly..)

So it ends up being pretty simple.

Re:Weird numbering system (3, Insightful)

VvScythevV (796270) | more than 9 years ago | (#10615403)

The numbering system was originally confusing because of the Japanese releases that never made it to America and Squaresoft's attempt to cover this up. Now that Square-Enix is throwing out actual sequels they can't just bump the number up, they have to append additional junk to the title like in X-2.

My feeling is that the franchise is getting out of hand these days and is becoming diluted, there will still be tons of fanboys out there but Square-Enix is losing some because of the growing ridiculousness of what's been happening in recent years.

Re:Weird numbering system (1)

ikkonoishi (674762) | more than 9 years ago | (#10616562)

Yeah.

I firmly believe that the FF series jumped the shark when they went 3D.

That might not have been the reason for the shark jumping, but since seven they just seem to get more annoying each time.

Is this just... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10615148)

...someone's lame attempt at advertising their FFXI fansite?

hmm (3, Insightful)

ImTheDarkcyde (759406) | more than 9 years ago | (#10615151)

this is one movie im really looking forward to, i just hope I don't have to wait for PSP to come out and get it on a little UMD...

Re:hmm (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10615170)

It will be released on both normal DVD and UMD.

Re:hmm (1)

ImTheDarkcyde (759406) | more than 9 years ago | (#10615329)

yes, but i mean released alongside its UMD counterpart. i dont plan on buying a psp for a movie.

no way.. (1)

flamesrock (802165) | more than 9 years ago | (#10615161)

FF7 almost caused me to go mad it was so addicting. Theres NO WAY I'm going to touch the sequel...

SimcitySphere [simcitysphere.com]

Re:no way.. (4, Informative)

Lao-Tzu (12740) | more than 9 years ago | (#10615186)

It's a movie, not a sequel to the video game.

Re:no way.. (4, Funny)

Rosco P. Coltrane (209368) | more than 9 years ago | (#10615247)

He can't tell the difference, he's mad, he just said so himself...

It is hard to tell anyway (2, Interesting)

baywulf (214371) | more than 9 years ago | (#10615294)

I've recently started playing FF X and it is hard to tell if it is a game or a movie. And no I am not talking about the quality of the graphics but rather the interactivity. I've played to 1/3 of the way from my guess and it is way too linear. Every map literally has an arrow pointing this way to the next challenge. My guess is some of the battles are rigged to move the plot along as they planned. With a little more automation it could have been made into a movie.

Re:It is hard to tell anyway (1)

NoInfo (247461) | more than 9 years ago | (#10615526)

I know what you mean.

About half-way through the game, though, it becomes less linear. Hang in there.

Re:It is hard to tell anyway (1)

MikeBabcock (65886) | more than 9 years ago | (#10615870)

You get to a point "most of the way through" the game and it becomes nonlinear until you decide to continue the plot.

That said, its always like that -- you can deviate and go off course at any point, or backtrack, or whatever -- but the game designers have a specific plot they want you to follow. Ever notice how you can't kill off a team member permanently?

Re:It is hard to tell anyway (1)

jx100 (453615) | more than 9 years ago | (#10616090)

The other games weren't *this* linear, though. This game doesn't even have anything remotely like an overworld until the point in the storyline you bring up. You are merely told where to go in some city/dungeon/wherever. In the other games, there was always at least the theoretical option of going somewhere else between.. say Narshe and Figaro.

No..... (-1, Troll)

creaturespeaker (823981) | more than 9 years ago | (#10615175)

No, the numbering system is not random, its just absurd.=) I mean really, Final Fantasy X-2? When will the madness stop?!

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Re:No..... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10615209)

Please leave now, and take your fake sig spamvertisement with you.

Too late (3, Funny)

News for nerds (448130) | more than 9 years ago | (#10615187)

>All Content are Copyrighted to Daeya.org and
>Square-Enix and may not be duplicated anywhere
> else without written consent of Daeya.org.

I bet this Daeya.org would be burnt down by a lawyer's megaflare summoned by SquareEnix in a few days.

IANAL... (1)

Teechur007 (305420) | more than 9 years ago | (#10615379)

...but I'm pretty sure that since one of their crew "spent 15 minutes editing each picture," they have a claim on that edited picture.

--Teechur007

Re:Too late (1)

0racle (667029) | more than 9 years ago | (#10615776)

Bahamut's a lawyer? Wow, didn't see that coming.

Huh? (0, Redundant)

Keith Emerson (824935) | more than 9 years ago | (#10615194)

Isn't there already a Final Fantasy 8 and 9?

Re:Huh? (3, Informative)

bobgoatcheese (455695) | more than 9 years ago | (#10615245)

Yes, and 10, and 11, and soon to be 12...

Firstly, Advent Children is a film, not a game. Secondly, the Final Fantasy series has no continuity; FF2 was sequal of FF, FF3 is not a sequal of FF2, etc. (with the exception of FFX-2, a direct sequal to FF10). This movie takes place after the events in FF7, but is in no way tied to the other games.

Re:Huh? (1)

bobgoatcheese (455695) | more than 9 years ago | (#10615257)

*FF2 was not a sequal of FF...

bleh

Re:Huh? (1)

Dance_Dance_Karnov (793804) | more than 9 years ago | (#10615658)

FF, FF2, FF3(nes), FF4, FF5, FF6(snes), FF7, FF8, FF9(psx), FF10, FF11, FF10-2(ps2)... out of all these games in the 'main' ff line only FF10 and FF10-2 had anything to do with each other story wise.

average 0 hour of sleep (4, Funny)

Reaper9889 (602058) | more than 9 years ago | (#10615205)

The team had an
average 0 hour of sleep in the last 2 days.
Why do they call it an average? Its not as if they could reach 0 hour if one of them slept anyway...

Re:average 0 hour of sleep (2, Funny)

harvardian (140312) | more than 9 years ago | (#10615439)

How come everybody's always gotta be hatin' on mode?

Re:average 0 hour of sleep (1)

Lord Apolon (805331) | more than 9 years ago | (#10615789)

You forogot to take into account the people who slept a negative number of hours...

Re:average 0 hour of sleep (2, Informative)

stratjakt (596332) | more than 9 years ago | (#10616192)

Need we remember fourth grade math?

What three types of averages are there? Which one is appropriate for a statement such as this?

Mean, median, mode. Mode is appropriate for a statement about a small group of people over a short period of time. If there are 7 people, and 4 of them slept 0 hours, the average is - indeed - 0 hours.

Eugenia has been caught trolling OSNews! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10615208)

LOL! Eugenia has been caught trolling the forums at OSNews.com!

http://osnews.com/moderation.php?news_id=8649 [osnews.com]

LOL! She trolls at the same site where she's a moderator! LOL!

TFA (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10615218)

Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children Exclusive Report
Ladies and Gentlemen,

The moment we all have been waiting for. Daeya.org's Team is proud to announce that Part 1 of Final Fantasy 7: Advent Children Special Edition Report is now up. You can read the Full Report or simply browse through the pictures in the Picture Gallery.

The images you see consist of a small fraction of all the pictures taken. These screenshots have been chosen to help you visualise certain scenes more easily. We apologize if the shots look a bit grainy, there really wasn't enough light. We did our best to deliver you the highest quality for both images and text. We hope that we've met the standards in terms of information you've been expecting.

Thank you all for your patience and encouragements.

Part two is in the process.

- Daeya


Fun Facts:

* The people working on the report were: Jerzideva, Klonoa, JoonHee, Daemon and Daeya.
* The team had an average 0 hour of sleep in the last 2 days.
* Jerzideva has a photographic memory and an obsession with details.
* Daemon does not like sleep: he coded 10 hours straight.
* Klonoa would have made a good debt collector: All we needed, he got for us.
* JoonHee kept us awake while we were working.
* Daeya spent about 15 minutes editing each picture.
* Coffee, Coke and Brawls were the beverages of choice.
* All the members were listening to the FF7 soundtrack while working.

Halo: The Movie (2, Interesting)

Gogela (750552) | more than 9 years ago | (#10615234)

With the convergence of the film and game industries, isn't it only a matter of time? I certainly hope so. Maybe we'll see Halo the movie come out in tandem with Halo 3! If they can get Milla Jovovich play Cortana, it'll be a box office smash.

Re:Halo: The Movie (1)

Naffer (720686) | more than 9 years ago | (#10615267)

Be careful what you wish for. Remember:
Resident Evil
Tomb Raider
FF:Spirits Within

Re:Halo: The Movie (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10615421)

Actually, the problem with the FF movie is that it wasn't based on one of the games. Most of the FF games could probably be translated into very good movies due to the fact that they're heavily story-driven.

Re:Halo: The Movie (3, Insightful)

Lemmy Caution (8378) | more than 9 years ago | (#10615581)

No, the stories aren't *that* good. The thing is that the FF games are *character* driven, and much of the richness of the games is created by side characters and NPCs, not just the main characters. FF7 works as much because of Barrett and Red 13 and Yuffie and Cid as it does because of Cloud, Aeris, Tifa and Sephiroth. And all those characters work well together because we spent hundreds of hours with them, building them up, nuancing their personalities with skills and materia and jobs and some choices (at one point, the exchange between Barrett and Cloud is based on who you form a party with.)

A film has 2 hours to do all that. It can't. Character, in film, is created more by appearence, gesture and style than by dialogue.

Most good films are not *that* character driven - the characters, when compelling, are more story-driven. Final Fantasy and other epic RPGs have more in common with literary epics than with cinematic ones, in terms of how we get pulled into caring about them.

I've repeated this enough that it's gotten tiresome, but I'll say it again: the best videogame that was ever made into a movie was never a videogame per se: it was Run Lola Run.

Re:Halo: The Movie (2, Insightful)

Naffer (720686) | more than 9 years ago | (#10616137)

I know you're talking about something else, but you bring up a very important issue about the limitation of current "charachter-driven" RPGs. That issue is the illusion of control. The games give you time to build up personalities, but they don't allow for any deviation on the part of the main charachter. In FF7 you could change a single scene based on how you'd been using your party, and that single scene made me feel so much more a part of the story. The emphasis on the "interactive movie" style of RPG creation is great if you enjoy and can relate to the main charachter, but somehow they always manage to include a few scenes where your charachter makes some of the stupidest decisions imaginable.
Fable tried to be let your charachter be who you wanted him to be, but failed in a number of other respects. Love stories have been used extensively in recent FF games to add to the story (not many things elicit so much emotion, even in dorky guys) but love-story-related scenes are usually the most guilty of stupid ass characther decisions.

So in the process of ranting about charachter development, control, and limitations, I've described exactly why games can never substitue for real life and have backed myself into a corner as to regards of what I want out of a video game.
So I'm going to try again... I want major story arcs. I want at least the semblance of control.

Halo: The Movie-A New Hope. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10616346)

Read "Joystick Nation" [amazon.com] and "Hamlet on the Holodeck" [amazon.com]

Re:Halo: The Movie-A New Hope. (1)

Naffer (720686) | more than 9 years ago | (#10616448)

Thanks, "Joystick Nation" is now on hold at my public library and I should have "Hamlet on the Holodeck" delivered at my community college library by the end of the week.

Re:Halo: The Movie (3, Funny)

HaloZero (610207) | more than 9 years ago | (#10616049)

Don't forget about Wing Commander. Ho-ly shite...

Re:Halo: The Movie (1)

Erik Hollensbe (808) | more than 9 years ago | (#10616666)

A game has to at least pretend it has an intriguing plot before it can be made into a successful movie. So your Street Fighter, Tomb Raider, Wing Commander, etc, are definitely out.

A movie that adopts the title of a game but bears no resemblence other than to attract a cursory fandom of the company who builds said game should be out as well. Strike Final Fantasy. (Although I did see it, but that's my fault for being a fan)

Resident Evil, well, it sounds like they just fucked up - that could have been pretty good.

Re:Halo: The Movie (1)

HaloZero (610207) | more than 9 years ago | (#10616080)

I thought someone already did this [redvsblue.com] . Not Microsoft-sponsered, of course.

Why couldn't we... (1)

neilyos (671220) | more than 9 years ago | (#10616341)

...just keep Jen Taylor as Cortana?

Spoiler Review (4, Informative)

Pheonix5000 (661842) | more than 9 years ago | (#10615254)

This isn't just a spoiler, it's someone retelling the entire movie!

Why? Doesn't anyone think that this place will have their arse sued off for giving all this away? :shrug:

Re:Spoiler Review (0, Flamebait)

WhatAmIDoingHere (742870) | more than 9 years ago | (#10615301)

Can you get sued for telling someone the ending to a movie?

Trinity dies.

Bring on the lawsuits.

Re:Spoiler Review (1)

danila (69889) | more than 9 years ago | (#10615469)

To a person who never played a FF game nothing in that "report" makes sense, spoilers or no spoilers. What the hell is the following supposed to mean?

As
Tifa says that, the shot switches to Cloud, in a desolate field, sitting on Fenrir, listening to his messages on a cell phone.


I am not exaggerating - to someone who never played those games, the spoilers are a load of gibberish, just some random people doing some random things. The big question, of course, is why such a person would bother to read this report... May be to avoid doing work or something. :)

umm (1)

sosuke (789685) | more than 9 years ago | (#10615260)

so when is gonna be released? i cant find the date!

Re:umm (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10615313)

Halt the presses! Someone on Slashdot can't find a date!

Re:umm (1)

KnightDaemon (824966) | more than 9 years ago | (#10615648)

The movie has no scheduled releases, but everyone speculates it will come out February-March 2005, at the same time as the American release of the Sony PSP.

Don't worry it's shite (0)

kamapuaa (555446) | more than 9 years ago | (#10615311)

This is spoilers but the review really makes it look like the (un)worthy follow-up to "Spirits Within," except even cornier. Even the review is just painful to look at. Read it and weep:

All three (3) silver-haired characters are there with Kadaj giving a speech about going against the Planet. He claims that the geostigma is a gift from the Planet that fills their hearts with doubt and racks their body with pain, not letting them fight. Cloud finding Tifa in Aerith's Church He claims that he will heal the children. Kadaj then says, Then, we will go to Mother! We will join as a family and strike back at the Planet!" As he says that, there is energy gathering around him.

Re:Don't worry it's shite (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10615685)

1. It's not a review. This is a report of what was shown at a film festival.

2. It's not a follow-up of the "Spirits Within". Unless your blind, you can see that this is a continuation of the Final Fantasy VII storyline.

3. A theatrical release is not planned; this is suppose to come out on DVD.

4. Instead of taking other people's word for it, how about watching the numerous trailers for yourself and making your own judgement?

Re:Don't worry it's shite (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10615765)

1) No fucking shit 2) It's a follow-up in the sense of "another Final Fantasy CGI movie than seems to be of the same worthless quality". 3) Did I say different? 4) If you really believe reviews (or reports, sorry), are worthless, why are you even here? - kamapuaa

Re:Don't worry it's shite (1)

KnightDaemon (824966) | more than 9 years ago | (#10616605)

The only thing Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children has in relation to Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within is the evolved CG technology it uses. The Producer and Company is different, now it is Square-Enix. In Addition, the text you just quoted without source is copyrighted to Daeya.org, we clearly stated that no parts may be reproduced. If you do for review, please at least link to the source. At last, this is something some fans would not want to read, it is a spoiler. Thank you.

Is it just me...... (2, Funny)

Conspiracy_Of_Doves (236787) | more than 9 years ago | (#10615388)

or did anyone else feel a sharp agonizing pain in thier side when they read the words "Final Fantasy movie [imdb.com] "?

Probably will flop in America (3, Insightful)

ShatteredDream (636520) | more than 9 years ago | (#10615412)

Mainstream American audiences don't like anything that is really heavy on fantasy or sci fi, generally speaking, unless it has one of two things: spectacular visuals or has a plot that might as well be a fantasy/sci-fi take on modern day issues. LOTR and SW e 4-6 had the former, old Star Trek had the latter.

Don't get me wrong, I am salivating at the thought of getting my grubby mits on this after looking at the shots taken from it, and I was there opening night for Final Fantasy the movie. Just don't be surprised if this never gets anywhere in America. Imagination and the average American tend to be something akin to mortal enemies.

Re:Probably will flop in America (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10615488)

Keep telling yourself that. It won't fail because it's crap, just because it's too imaginative for the sheeple.

Re:Probably will flop in America (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10616422)

Hey, great way to ensure that this would have a wide appeal even among the "sheeple" you are deriding who may be curious about the story. Fandom is marvelous sometimes, "THIS IS COOL BECAUSE EVERYONE HATES IT" then quickly followed by "DUDE YOU SOLD OUT" because you don't have your 31337 ivory tower of being the first now that everyone bought into your thing.

Re:Probably will flop in America (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10615795)

Perhaps you should read the article. If you really think the movie looks even halfway intelligent, your brain has been seriously damaged. Please remember that you are talking about a CGI cartoon sequel to the seventh installment of a video game.

It also seems somewhat self-contradictory that you complain about people watching sci-fi just for the visuals, but your only stated reason for wanting to watch the movie is the screenshots.

Anyway, would you really want to see a movie without impressive visuals, or a plot with no relevance to modern day life? For the first, perhaps you'd be better off with a book. For the latter, uhhmmm, huh?

Re:Probably will flop in America (2, Insightful)

Erik Hollensbe (808) | more than 9 years ago | (#10616611)

You ever think some people just don't like it?

That said, I hope this will make it my way.

Why can't they make... (3, Insightful)

LanMan04 (790429) | more than 9 years ago | (#10615432)

a movie version of Final Fantasy II? IMHO FFII had the best plot of all the FFs, and it doesn't have all the anime-esque/techno stuff tossed into it (I'm sorry, I could never get very into FFVII VIII or X). Seriously, Cecil and his battle with his inner demons (and emerging as a paladin), Rydia the summoner, great quest, airships, dwarves, elemental demons, the death of Palum and Porum early on in the flick (shocker!), it would be awesome!! Hell, I was so into that game when I was 12/13 I was depressed for a week after finishing it.

And PLEASE PLEASE, no long, weird, poorly translated speeches about the nature of the human soul or philosophy, a-la Ghost in the Shell.

That's not Final Fantasy 2. (1)

Gendou (234091) | more than 9 years ago | (#10615906)

That's Final Fantasy 4. The atrociously bad first English translation of it (the American SNES version) was released under the title "Final Fantasy 2" in the U.S. to avoid confusing "stupid American consumers", because the real Final Fantasy 2 and 3 hadn't been released in English. In addition to being released under the wrong name, the difficulty level was reduced considerably from the real version, the translation was a horrid mess, and the dialog was heavily censored ("spoony bard", anyone?) to make the game "kid friendly".

The re-release of Final Fantasy 4 in English (for the Playstation) restored the correct title and gave us the real version of the game and a reasonably good translation.

Logical progression? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10615557)

From that description, the whole thing is really random. Some guys on a hill just decide to attack him? They fight in the church just for fun? I'm a huge FF fan, but I'm really skeptical about this; I'm not seeing a plot yet; there are just some fight scenes strung together. What little there is in-between doesn't make much sense and has no continuity.

I still..... (4, Funny)

Vash_066 (816757) | more than 9 years ago | (#10615568)

I still curse the name Sephiroth to this day!! Damn him for what he did to Aeris!! I spent all that time getting her levels up...then wham! Sword thru the gut....the fire of a thousand suns doesn't begin to descirbe my anger.

Re:I still..... (1)

Killjoy_NL (719667) | more than 9 years ago | (#10615859)

I hear ya man, I shed some tears at that moment :(

I still can't hear the Aeris tune without getting choked up. Sign of a good game, when you really get to care for the characters.

Re:I still..... (1)

cecil36 (104730) | more than 9 years ago | (#10616135)

I hear you there. I choked up during the burial scene after the JENOVA fight, and broke down twice while playing FF8. The first time was when Squall gave his speech to all the troops via the Balamb Garden intercom, and the second was when he and Rinoa were in space and was wondering if Rinoa would regain consciousness. I know some people talk smack about FF8, but if the game can grab you like that, then it says something about how good the story is.

Re:I still..... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10615873)

What really gets me to this day, is that you can still buy new Aeris weapons and gear at locations you could have never gotten to with her.

Re:I still..... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10615898)

Apparently, if about 37 minutes into the movie you start blinking your eyes whilst holding your breath, you can revive Aeris.

Re:I still..... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10615932)

I had her level 4 limit break and everything. That was hard work!

It just ain't right. It just ain't.

Re:I still..... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10616644)

....the fire of a thousand suns doesn't begin to descirbe my anger.

How about a Knights Of The Round?

Advent Children? (4, Informative)

rbb (18825) | more than 9 years ago | (#10615660)

A suggestion would've been to include some links to more information about the movie:
There's also www.adventchildren.net, but that one's not entirely working for me at the moment.

WTF don't they hire English Script writers? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10615711)

The first movie sucked and this one will lick my nads too... Who the hell comes up with this crap?!?!

Re:WTF don't they hire English Script writers? (3, Interesting)

CRCulver (715279) | more than 9 years ago | (#10615758)

WTF don't they hire English Script writers?

Maybe because this was produced primarily for a Japanese market by a Japanese company and only then translated to English for export?

Why does a script have to be originally written in English? Is English superior to all other languages? Is Japanese deficient and worth avoiding? Of course not, linguists tell us that all languages are essentially equal. Instead, what matters is the quality of the translation. Some Square-Enix things have been translated quite well, others have not.

Re:WTF don't they hire English Script writers? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10615826)

No it doesn't, because Japanese is obviously liek teh best language evar cuz it has all the anime and all taht omgwtfbbq.

Idiot.

Re:WTF don't they hire English Script writers? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10616045)

Of course not, linguists tell us that all languages are essentially equal.

Actually, linguists would probably tell that not all languages are equal - however, oftentimes the expressiveness of any two languages used in similarly sophisticated countries (that is, both countries need vocabulary and expressions for roughly the same things) might be roughly equal, since if some languages lack something, they usually make it up somehow.

Japanese isn't grammatically as flexible or... interesting as English, nor (AFAIK) it has as large vocabulary of synonyms, but it definitely makes it up with its completely mysterious semantic side ("it's not the size of the language, but how you use it!")

Okay, that was completely offtopic, sorry. :)

Kinda freaky (2, Insightful)

cloudkj (685320) | more than 9 years ago | (#10615845)

Anyone else a little freaked out about the looks of the CG characters? I remember reading an article a while back about how, no matter how realistic, computer animated human characters will always lack a humanistic "look" that makes them look eerie and ghastly. This is true even if you can achieve up to 99% realism for a computer animated human. That 1% makes a huge difference, and makes them appear less human (zombie-ish).

Re:Kinda freaky (1)

Spy der Mann (805235) | more than 9 years ago | (#10616094)

Well I don't know about Final Fantasy, but some CG characters (i.e. Silent Hill) looked SO realistic and well-done.

Perhaps the movie would be a real hit if instead of 3D-rendering they used cel-shading for the characters. Akira, anyone?

Re:Kinda freaky (1)

Mike deVice (769602) | more than 9 years ago | (#10616096)

Well... I think part of this is about mindset. I'm all about CG eye candy. I'm a sucker for it every time. When I went to the theater to see FF:The Spirits Within, I was expecting to be hugely blown away by realism. While it wasn't horrible, it didn't live up to the expectations I had built up in my mind.

I won't do this when I see FF:Advent Children. All movies require a certain amount of suspension of belief, and no matter how well it will be rendered, I'll keep it firmly in mind that this is, ultimately, just a cartoon. One with it's own style and conventions. Instead of expecting realism, I'll look for beauty. If there's one thing Square can deliver, it's beautiful artwork and graphics.

Yes but (1)

sql*kitten (1359) | more than 9 years ago | (#10615881)

is Aki Ross in it? That's all I care about really. Seeing this movie is a yes/no decision for me.

games that try to be movies (2, Interesting)

Noraa (808683) | more than 9 years ago | (#10615980)

Can the recent Final Fantasy games really be classified as Role Playing games anymore? Ever since FF7 the series has been reduced to just fighting monsters inbetween CG cutscenes. Too many games gave been trying to bridge the gap between the movie and the game. It may seem like a good idea, but IMHO it just makes a really boring game. Metal Gear Solid 2 suffered from this. Snake opens door-watch 10 minute movie. Snake walks down hallway-watch 15 minute movie. The entire game was just walking Snake from one cuscene to the next. If I want to watch a movie, I'll go to the video store and rent one. If I want to play a game, then I want to PLAY, not sit through 20 minutes of cutscenes.

Squrare Enix is really milking this property... (4, Informative)

echocharlie (715022) | more than 9 years ago | (#10616087)

...and that's a good thing!

Between Advent Children and all the other Final Fantasy VII sequels that have been announced, it's good to see Square Enix acknowledging their most popular FF to date. Before Crisis - Final Fantasy VII is their entry into Mobile phone gaming. And then you also have Final Fantasy: Dirge of Cerberus, their PS2 sequel which focuses on one of the supporting characters in the game, Vincent Valentine.

For those of you who haven't played the original game yet, you should go out and get a copy. It's available for $20 under the classics banner, and boasts one of the most unique battle systems in an RPG. The "materia"-system offers so much flexibility, and let's you really customize your game. I love the materia-combos that can be created.

links to gilsellers (1)

JJJ_NL (785776) | more than 9 years ago | (#10616123)

Why does that website allow Goooogle to put links to gilsellers on their site? The same gilsellers that are f*cking a game by Square-Enix up (Final Fantasy XI).

Pre-Order (1)

Sidicas (691633) | more than 9 years ago | (#10616376)

Does anybody know of any trusted sites where I can pre-order the DVD from?

maybe I'm just crazy... (1, Redundant)

Xaoswolf (524554) | more than 9 years ago | (#10616537)

But does right click suppression annoy the shit out of anybody else?

Re:maybe I'm just crazy... (1)

ikkonoishi (674762) | more than 9 years ago | (#10616588)

No *cough*get firefox*cough*

Re:maybe I'm just crazy... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10616621)

Why would you want to right-click? ;)
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