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Katz vs. Taco: The Matrix

CmdrTaco posted more than 15 years ago | from the battling-gasbag-critics dept.

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"The Matrix" is the latest product from the sci-fi hollywood world. A techno-thriller that is raising a lot of eyebrows and posing the question "What is The Matrix". We'll try not to answer that question, but skip Katz's column if you're concerned: he gives abit away. If you're anal about getting movies spoiled, just don't read any reviews. Mine is fairly spoiler free, but if you like sci fi, see this movie. Its golden. Hopefully it'll tide me over until May.

CmdrTaco:Few Spoilers

"Guys we've got a movie, and it needs a Messiah Figure. A guy who can save the world. Who can you think of that would fit the bill?"

"Charleton Heston?" "Bill Maher?" "Ted Nugent?" "Keanu Reeves?"

"You mean Ted? Excellent."

I figure this exchange has happened a few times in Hollywood. How Keanau keeps getting to be the guy that saves the world is beyond me. But he did a good job this time around. He's a little plastic, but thats just how he is. Fortunately, it doesn't matter, because the world that he is in is completely engrossing. You will sit down and for 2 hours and a few minutes, be completely entranced by The Matrix.

This is a great movie. I won't spoil it and tell you what "The Matrix" is, but you'll figure it out pretty early on. And its an interesting and convincing concept that actually works. Its ideas picked and grabbed from all sorts of sci fi, and it will appeal immensely to many of us.

The world is a strange mish mash of pseudo mysticism or spirituality. Lots of techno-babble stirred in. And the scary thing is that it works. And it works really well. Its a dark world, and a confusing one. But it all pretty much sorts itself out in the first half hour and then you can enjoy a pretty entertaining ride.

A general, non spoiler summary is that Neo (Reeves) is a slightly rebelious [h|cr]acker not happy in the system. He is lured around and eventually joins up with a rebelious band of cyber badasses out to save the world. They have mega technology. They have a space ship. They run from robotic spiders. They have unlimited weapons and virtual reality Kung Fu training simulators. And if you've seen the trailers: Super Powers. But it gets a lot crazier.

So some of the acting is a bit wooden. Some of the fx are a bit campy. Some of the jokes are sad. But these tiny flaws will slip by almost unnoticed because most of the fx are seamless. Most of the jokes are just right. And while some of the fighting is cheesy, other parts are quite exciting. This movie makes good use of many fx that we've seen in commercials for years, and somehow ties them together with a plot that is interesting. The philosophy and stuff gets a tad heavy at times, but not to badly, just a little bit fluffy.

2 hours, and I don't think I blinked.

I'd write a longer review, but frankly I don't want to spoil it for you. And I'll warn you that Katz's review will spoil some of the big surprises, so keep scrolling or hit that back button if you don't want to know...

JonKatz:Spoiler Warning

In science fiction, and in the mythology of computing science, it's believed - remember Ray Kurzweil and his "Age of Spiritual Machines" -- that as we race towards more powerful computers and machines with artificial intelligence, eventually there will be some cataclysmic Omega Point at which everything changes, especially the fundamental situation of people in the universe.

Engineers, scientists, developers and programmers don't dwell on Omega Point theory much, at least in public, but it's a staple in the literature of computing as well as science fiction.

And here it is again as the centerpiece of the "The Matrix," the stylish, highly entertaining new geek action thriller starring Keanu Reeves and Laurence Fishburne. The movie asks the question: what if the world were run by evil computers who bred humans only as an energy source?

What if only a handful of humans knew the truth, and the rest lived in a world where reality was altered by an artificially-brilliant monster which created a virtual dream world in which nobody could tell what was real and what wasn't, if people believed they were living lives, but weren't?

This is the Omega Point and it's the world Neo the hacker suddenly wakes up to. He's led to the now inevitable Leader of the Rebel Forces (Fishburne), and they go after the humanoid machines. Naturally, they are represented by agents, evil and powerful NSA-style Men In Suits (attention Hollywood: can we come up with some new bad guys?).

This movie is a geek feast, with echoes of "Terminator," "Alien," "The X-Files," "200l: A Space Odyssey," and "Star Wars." Maybe a bit of Jackie Chan and "Walker, Texas Ranger," too. Heroes and villains kick-box their way across the universe, driving each other through windows, walls and virtual space. This movie, made by the Wachowski Brothers, is made without apology by and for nerds and geeks. The real villain is a "neural interactive simulation," a concept familiar to computing types, therefore one the film doesn't even feel it needs to to explain.

"The Matrix" is a smart, strange, complicated movie, one that takes techno-cinematography to new and classy levels. The beginning of the movie has an almost gothic, truly creepy feel to it. "The Matrix" also has a truly dark premise, eerie, new, imaginative and startling special effects, and a pace like a high-speed download.

And for once, the familiar arguments about technology, humanity and the future are intelligently presented and argued. Artificial intelligence machines - AT's - have gone to war with humans in the 21st century and won, and are setting about to literally suck the life out of humanity (Neo is shown the skeletal remains of civilization hidden beneath the virtual ground). Neo, the Everyman hacker is cast as the messiah, called upon to save the earth with the help of various raggedy geeks, nerds and a battalion of laptops with high-resolution monitors.

As Neo, Reeves is a well-meaning mono-man, likeable but almost one dimensional. All his life, he's known something is wrong with the world, but he could never put his finger - or keyboard - on it. Now, he gets to know. This movie is a very knowing geek fantasy. Neo, a software programmer, had a dual (but no social) life. By day, he's a programmer, by night a lawless hacker. He and everyone else speaks in the stuffy language of the future, which is to say nobody uses contractions. Carrie-Anne Moss plays Trinity, the equally grim and business-like super-hacker babe who guides Neo to his'yes!?destiny.

Whenever the movie tilts towards the clunky and heavy-handed ("I can show you the door," intones Rebel Leader Morpheus to Neo at one point, "but you have to go through it yourself" it self-corrects with real wit and dazzling effects.

There are some fun geek fantasies: the only time Neo smiles is when martial arts programs are being down-loaded into his brain. Later, a rebel hacker and fellow geek generously offers him some intimate time with a virtual blonde in a red-dress he's created as a software training program.

The mysterious Zionist Oracle, the source of all wisdom to whom every good guy and human must trek, turns out to be a chatty, grandmotherly black lady baking cookies in her kitchen.

For most of the movie, Neo doesn't believe this Messiah stuff and riddled with the expected self-doubts and unwillingness to use his powers, a/k/a, his "Force." But once he does get religion, it's with a vengeance: in one of the campiest scenes of any recent sci-fi movie, he and Trinity download an arsenal of black weapons, along with superhuman powers, floor length leather jackets, a black chopper, and enough Kung Fu moves to take out a battalion of humanoids.

Bullets, bodies and shell casings literally rain from the skies (even bullets are stylish in this movie), buildings blow up, humans and androids both die and resurrected with regularity; and everybody goes back and forth between the real and virtual world so rapidly and fluidly that the movie very nearly invokes the experience of being online. The martial arts stunts approach choreographed ballet.

"The Matrix" is a sci-fi thriller, and a great one. Since it takes care not to take itself too seriously, it's not a good idea to give it more weight than it deserves. It doesn't explain itself to nerds, geeks and computer users - it's made for them. And any movie that leaves you disturbed, riveted, entertained, and then thinking when you leave the theater, is well worth the trip. jonkatz@slashdot.org

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good flick (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1951355)

I loved it.

good flick (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1951356)

Awesome flick! I will see it again.

You guys make me change my mind (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1951357)

After watching the advertisements for the movie, I thought "This looks pretty stupid" but after reading your reviews, I feel like giving it a chance.

good flick: ditto (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1951358)

SFX the way they should be with plenty of industrial hacker lore.

loved this movie! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1951359)

I loved this movie so much, that I'm eager to add this "me too". And even thought Taco described the fight scenes as cheesy, they were some of the best parts. Oh and you've GOT to check out that chick! Best scene: scene between Neo and the Oracle.

Reeves techno-films (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1951360)

I thought Reeves played Johnny very close to Gibson's short story and I liked it very much.

I do think The Matrix is Reeves best film to date though.

But... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1951361)

Good list....I'd also like to add Woody Harrelson to that myself....

Sounds like scriptwriter was reading Descartes (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1951362)

I think this last point is an interesting one. It seems to me that for the most part people have conflicting feelings about technology. On the one hand we want technology to march ever onward, that is, insofar as it provides us with conveniences. On the other hand, there is an underlying fear of replacement or domination by machines. We seem to be removed from this fear, though, proximally and for the most part. It exists as an abstract sort of concern, like fears about the possibility of World War III (though for some, this fear is getting less abstract as things progress in the Balkans). Interestingly, there doesn't seem to be much of a recognition of the association of this hope and this fear.
The NY Times ran an article related to this phenomenon at http://www.nytimes.com/library/tech/99/04/circuits /articles/01skep.html . It's kind of fluffy but interesting nonetheless.

Regarding technology-as-evil in film, there's a long and illustrious history to this theme. It doesn't even always manifest directly as "technology is the source of evil." In movies like the Star Wars trilogy, we've got Organic-good vs. Artificial/Technological-evil. Even further back, Chaplin even made some films on this as well.

Doesn't anyone read sci-fi anymore? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1951363)

So far the key plot points appear to be a blatant ripoff of Jack Chalker's Wonderland Gambit trilogy

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/034538847 X/qid=923073947/sr=1-3/002-9136470-0674824

best trilogy I've read in a long while and the ending may be a little weak, but hardly the flop that Brin decided to end on.

Well, I guess stealing ideas is what open source is all about right?

The Matrix == Maya (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1951364)

'Nuff said.

Good flick, with some problems (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1951365)

Yeah, it was a great movie and all, but...

I'm no expert in the field, but I imagine that the human body would produce approximately the same amount of energy whether conscious or not. Therefore, the Matrix is pointless. Why bother creating a world for people to 'dream' a life in, instead of letting them create their own dreams? Just drug them, sever a nerve, or whatever.
Another thing...If the entire world is just a 'digital illusion', then the phones would be just as artificial as everything else. So why could these people only leave the matrix through phones?
There were plenty of other things to pick apart, too. Why didn't Neo use the equivilant of 'no clipping'?
Even with the holes, I must say this was a mighty fine movie.

You paid $7.50? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1951366)

I paid $4 and got to see it in the best theatre in Michigan. :P (Studio 28)

You pigs did not get it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1951367)

The overacting is on purpose, most of the scenes are knock off.
this is a GREAT movie

You pigs, peasant, redneck of the mind

THIS IS THE BEST MOVIE IN 20 YEARS (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1951368)

And I believe StarWars is overhyped, not a good sign.

This one came with little hype and BOOOOOMMM IT'S A FUCK.NG BOMB!!!!!

GO GO GO GO SEE IT...

Stop-Motion Pan (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1951369)

Actualy the piece of eqipment they use for the stop-motion pan is pretty cool. From what i understand it's a semicircular machine in which there is a continuous strip of film. Each frame on this film is then exposed simultaneously to a different camera angle. In this way they can appear to circle the camera around while the action appears to be frozen. I think there are a couple of adverts that used this technique.

strange casting... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1951370)

His VCR probably still flashes 12:00! :)

What movie doesn't NPR give good reviews to? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1951371)

NPR hands out good reviews so feaverishly it makes my ears hurt. A great example was their review for the David Cronenberg's gem "the crash". Never a more glowing review of a film been given to such a piece of gay canadian art trash...


Also: NEO = ONE - come on, do we really need such proding to understand character types? I guess maybe with reeves we do...

strange casting... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1951372)

But aren't you just waiting for the inevitable line "Whoa."?

Plato's Cave Parable? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1951373)

hohum...since someone mention descarte, might as well mention the gran daddy of all western philosopy.

*yawn*...why can't get some realllllly original movie plot? not some replay of a 3millenia old parrable. gawd...

The underlying philosophy of the movie (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1951374)


SPOILER BELOW

My apologies for not being all that familiar with the eastern philosophies but I thought the movie had Christian imagery.

come on.

Neo was clearly the messiah bringing in a new era. In the end of the movie he is resurrected for pete's sake.


Damn, I wish I was there... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1951375)

The Uptown rocks.
About 7-8 years ago they did a sci-fi series,
and I got to see 2001, Blade Runner, Aliens and
some others on their huge screen.

That's where I want to be for SW:TPM.

loved this movie! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1951376)

If you see the movie a second time, the opening scene and the scene with the oracle will REALLY blow your mind. All kinds of foreshadowing that you don't get the first time through!

"being the one is like being in love" Get it? :)

My review which was not posted (not a surprise) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1951377)

This wasnt a review, it was the CliffsNotes for The Matrix.

The underlying philosophy of the movie (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1951378)

SPOILER
When he took the pill, that was a symbol of the beginning of the journey. He was reborn into his given body to start the journey toward enlightenment.
When he was reborn the second time, I saw it more as he had fully awakened, that he had achieved total conciousness. He saw things as how they really are in his world, and thus could change them. He was no longer bound by the chains of his own mind.
This parallels closely with eastern philosophies, where we are ruled by our inabilty to see things for what they really are. There is no supreme being, just a supreme conciousness that we are to hooked into, some of us more then others. A good starting point on eastern philosophy is the Tao Te Ching.

I really liked the AI's speach on humans being a plauge on this planet. As much as I hate to admit it, that cord strikes deep in me. I look around at what we do to our environment for the sake of progress and I see a future similar to The Matrix. Almost makes me wonder about my own reality.

Almost as good as Pi! "Technopagan-y" plugplugplug (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1951379)

Burn you bastard... How dare you compare this movie to the perfection of Pi... Aronofsky is a genius! Sean Gullette will be forever etched my mind as true determination...

Matrix kicked ass, but a totally different kind of "kick ass". Pi moved your mind, Matrix moved your body...

-D.Alphaeus

The underlying philosophy of the movie (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1951454)

I think the best part of the movie is all the little references to spirituality. I found that alot of the underlying ideas of were very closely related to eastern philosophies such as Buddhism and Taoism.

"I can show you the door, but you must walk through it yourself."

"You must not think that you can do it, you must know you can do it"

The imagery was classic symbolism, from the "birth" scene to the final battle scene. It was a well done movie, one of the best movies I have seen in a long time.

Best scene (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1951455)

agreed,

what was funny is that by this point you bought SO MUCH into the plot (at least i did) that the simple looking kitchen looks absolutely magical. Even the cookies look sort of supranatural. At that point I had a "out of body" experience, watching myself watching the movie and going "WOW this is great stuff, and I looking at a random kitchen with a random looking mama, pretending she is an oracle and I AM BUYING IT ALL THE WAY"

I thorougly enjoyed the movie from minute 1 to the last one

Rent Dark City (1)

ximenes (10) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951456)

I saw The Matrix the other day, and I must say that it is very similar to Dark City in several regards (storyline, main character, etc.). Which isn't surprising, as both of them are similar to other works. Personally, I liked them both a lot. Dark City had some awesome SFX (like the city changing), but The Matrix has SFX that are at least as awesome as Dark City's best in scene after scene. Incidentally, watching Dark City on the big screen is the way to do it. Remember the part where they walk out onto Shell Beach, and how John's eyes had to adjust? After sitting in a completely dark theatre for an hour or two, you're sharing that feeling with them 100%. Truly innovative, if you ask me.

Eye Candy (1)

DigitalDaedalus (142) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951459)

Two hours of eye candy that actually worked with the story. Good stuff...
Go see it in a good movie theatre. Sit up front. Lean back. Try not to blink.

Confession (1)

Skyshadow (508) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951463)

I'm sorry to admit this to all my good friends at /., but I've liked Reeves in movies. Specifically: Bill & Ted's (the original one), Speed and Devil's Advocate (I like it when the good guys don't really win).

That said, I'm liking what I hear about this movie -- maybe I'll go catch a show today (what the hell, it's only $4.50 before 5:30).

On another subject, this "Katz v. Taco" thing needs some Mortal Kombat II-inspired icon to go with it. Maybe a shot of them holding up their dukes at one another. No, on second thought that would look pretty bad -- maybe they could be poised with their palm pilots and cell phones and personal fax machines, ready for a geek duel a la Dilbert. Yeah, that'd work...

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Good for a laugh (1)

gavinhall (33) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951465)

Posted by shauna_d:

It had some great effects, but my friends and I repressed giggles a lot through the movie. It was very melodramatic and overacted (expected from Keanu, not expected from a great actor like Lawrence Fishburn). I describe it as Dune meets Jackie Chan meets Alien meets (insert Gibson book here).

It was worth the $7.50, but only for the Keanu eye candy (for the grrls).

Yowzah! (1)

gavinhall (33) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951466)

Posted by Nericus:

Only Two thumbs...C'mon guys!!! You've both got two hands! It deserves at least three thumbs and a toe! This movie...."oh my god" sums it up very well. :)

Rent Dark City (1)

gavinhall (33) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951467)

Posted by Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters:

I have to figure out how to say enough to get moderated over a reasonable threshhold. :-)

I just wanted to put in a really strong good word for the movie _Dark City_. It made it to theatres for all of 5 minutes, as I remember. I had to get it on video myself, which is too bad since it would have looked nice on the big screen.

But reading the reviews of _The Matrix_ (haven't seen it yet), and the trailers, it looks like _Dark City_ has an awful lot in comon with the former in both plot elements and visual style. That said, _Dark City_ winds up being genuinely interesting in the way it handles its philosophical/existential questions (and I might flaunt my credentials as a Philosophy Ph.D. in this regard... if only because most 'philosophical' questions in movies are so very dopey). OK, it's not the same as reading Deleuze, or even Descartes. But _Dark City_ actually does make you think about it at the end of it.

I am sure that _Dark City_ did not have the FX budget that _The Matrix_ did... but it had enough to do some nice stuff. And the visual mood is fascinating throughout... I especially like the consistent syncretism of the film, which it shares with some notable others, like _Brazil_ (and in some ways, _Blade Runner_). That is, there are a number of films (and some Gibson short story, I forget the title) that are about a future... but the future is the *PAST's* future. That is, the films (made in 1980-2000, say) try to create a world which is the sci-fi future envisioned in the 1920s through 1950s. The effect is to be simultaneously futuristic and nostalgic. It is a nice effect, and one which presents a fascinating cinimegraphic image.

Obscure Reference in The Matrix (1)

gavinhall (33) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951468)

Posted by gcanyon:

There was a very obscure pop cultural reference in The Matrix, and I'm looking for any kindred souls who got it, when Neo is running away from agents in the Matrix and yells into a cell phone, "Mr. Wizard, get me the hell out of here!"

Hint--it's not the science experiment Mr. Wizard.

Obscure Reference in The Matrix (1)

gavinhall (33) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951469)

Posted by The Incredible Mr. Limpett:

Haven't seen the movie but that's a Tooter the Turtle reference!

dribble drabble drizzle droll...time for Tooter to come home..

(or whatever his magic words are...being ages since I've actually seen the cartoon) :)
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"Wars, conflict, it's all business. One murder makes a
villain. Millions a hero. Numbers sanctify."

You guys make me change my mind (1)

Andy Dodd (701) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951479)

I agree with you on this... I wonder if there are any early showings tomorrow, or one tonight after I finish my research...

Yowzah! (1)

mackga (990) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951480)

I've seen the trailers on teevee, and they looked very good, but often the movies themselves don't live up to the promise - the Relic, anyone? But after reading these two, very good BTW!, reviews, I'm going to have to go see this puppy. Thanks Jon and Rob for the two thumbs up!

strange casting... (1)

Danse (1026) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951481)

Since he doesn't have to talk geek-talk in this one it works. He probably wouldn't have been my first (or second, etc.) choice, but he was ok for a plastic person.

Good for a laugh (1)

Danse (1026) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951482)

Yeah... now that I think about it, it was a little Dune-like. Had some Dark City, Face Off (what other movie paid so much attention to bullets?), and of course Jackie Chan for the cool martial arts scenes.

As long as they don't screw it up... (1)

Danse (1026) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951483)

If they make a sequel, they better not dumb it down. It should be at least as smart as this one, and probably more so. I would hate to see a bad sequel to this movie.

Doesn't anyone read sci-fi anymore? (1)

Danse (1026) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951484)

There are some similarities, but the plot isn't the same. Go see the movie. It's too good to pass up.

Katz paying full attention? (1)

demon (1039) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951488)

Hey Katz, you gotta pay attention in these movies... He didn't "download" all his abilities within the "matrix". He learned how to cheat - how to make it do what he wanted it do (what Fishburne's character was trying to teach him to do earlier on). That's half the point of the movie - once you knew what it was, you could make it do what you wanted, with the proper concentration, of course.

Sounds like scriptwriter was reading Descartes (1)

jafac (1449) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951493)

. . . goes back to THE first Sci-Fi novel ever. Mary Shelley's Frankenstein.
the conclusion:
Technology in of itself isn't evil, but man still has to come to grips with his moral/immoral use of technology.

I can't wait to see this movie, but it's NOT going to bust down my building exitement over TPM. . .

The Omega Point (2)

Frater 219 (1455) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951494)

Actually, the term "Omega Point" comes from the French Jesuit philosopher Teilhard de Chardin, and was popularized in recent SF by Dan Simmons's Hyperion books. It is a theological, not a technological, term.

Unlike many other theologians of his time, De Chardin accepted the scientific theory of evolution. However, his philosophy (being, as it was, theology) went beyond what can be considered scientific. He added to Darwin's theory the idea that evolution has a telos, or end-point to which it aspires. He called this telos "the Omega Point" and considered it to be the same thing as union with God. That is, according to de Chardin, humanity is presently evolving towards literal Godhead.

Naturally, this is not reconcilable with modern evolutionary theory, which considers evolution not to have a telos. However, it does make for good SF every once in a while; the first, second, and fourth books of the _Hyperion_ saga are really quite good. (The third, _Endymion_, reads like a Star Wars novel...)

Taco vs Katz reviews (1)

extremely (1681) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951498)

MY thought exactly. A nice mix of styles and they have to keep it short and to the point to cram them both in.

Keep it up!
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strange casting... (1)

peterjm (1865) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951501)

true, but you have to admit that even during his more "cheesy" lines (ie. "wow"), it almost seemed to work...I for one am happy with the choice of actors..

Right On (1)

Ex-NT-User (1951) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951503)


Yeah.. stop motion panning has been overdone.. but I don;t think I've ever seen it used as effectively as in The Matrix. It really added to a LOT to the action sequences.. and the great use of fast/slow effects was killer too.

I think over all as a whole the special effects weren;t just "eye candy" but actyually added to the plot and action sequances of the movie.

-Ex-Nt-User

Scriptwriters replaced by machines? (1)

Chops-Frozen-Water (2085) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951508)

Given the number of clones and remakes of TV shows and movies, I'm thinking it's already happened for the most part. :)

-Virgil
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Damn fun movie (1)

tgd (2822) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951515)

That's so funny, I mixed the two movies up in my head. I just assumed The Matrix was the movie I'd seen trailers for last year, but that's right, that was The 13th Floor.

Wierd.

I'm hating the thought of seeing The Matrix, because I've got a sinking feeling its plot may be very close to a book I've been writing... How much is that gonna suck?

Damn fun movie (1)

tgd (2822) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951516)

Okay, bad me. Read the spoiler comment down below. Its nothin' like my book. Yay! Now I can go see it without having that to worry about. :)

My review which was not posted (surprise) (0)

Luyseyal (3154) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951518)

Summary

The Matrix [whatisthematrix.com] , starring Keanu Reeves and Laurence Fishburne began showing yesterday (Wed 03/31). The basic premise of the film is the "brains in a vat" theory that you learned about in PHIL 101. Humans in the future (circa 2099) have been conquered and subjugated by the same reproductive machines that they created. In the human-machine war preceding subjugation, machines used solar power for energy. A last ditch effort by H. sapiens to stop the machines' energy source by nuclear detonation and the consequent pollution of the atmosphere with impenetrable clouds fails because the machines discover a new, abundant, self-replicating power source at their fingertips: human bioenergy.

Humans are grown in fields and maturated singly in hollow nests covering the sides of massive cliffs. These nests are filled with a pink liquid reminiscent of the liquid oxygen used in The Abyss. All subjugates are networked together by a massive computer program which produces through direct neurochemical stimulation an almost perfect replica of the peak of human civilization in 1999. This virtual reality is known commonly as the Matrix.

The only non-subjugate humans are a small group of crackers who "enter" the Matrix on pirate signal generated from their small hovership and an unconquered city known as Zion located hundreds of miles beneath the Earth's crust, near the core where it is still warm. This band of revolutionaries seeks the prophesied savior who can bend the Matrix at will and bring humankind out of subjugation and into the bittersweet darkness of the real world. Positive

Maybe I have seen Dune way too many times, but I still like the idea of a Kwisatz Haderach ubermensch savior of the future (even if it is Keanu Reeves, see below). The religious imagery, though drawn from different sources, is not Bible-, Ramayana-, or Koran-thumping. Carrie-Anne Moss' character's name, Trinity, is the identifier of the prophetic connection between Neo (Reeves), Morpheus (Fishburne), and herself. A young English boy, in monks' robes, bends a spoon with his mind and speaks Hindu philosophy to Neo to explain it, which makes sense within the context of the Matrix. The notion of jihad does not go unnoticed as the underdog H. sapiens battles the incarnately evil Darwinian machines in their pursuit of unfettered self-evolution. And there are others as well, but none seem overdone to me.

The setting in the real world was phenomenal. A blend of Descent, Geiger, the Borg, the Terminator future, and a few other splashes like the abovementioned pink fluid, the world is nicely rendered and extremely immersive. Bordering on sensory overload, this film was like a Matrix unto itself for me. Make sure you see this in a good theatre. Negative why? His deadpan (is he ever not deadpan?) portrayal lacks chemistry with the other actors and is generally boring. The character itself has plenty of room for working out various elements so he really does not have an excuse except that he is always that way. Alas, I think my friend said it best: "I think they chose him because of the way he says 'Whoa' in the Jump program scene." Though I am not a huge Fishburne fan, his religious Morpheus is much better than Reeves' normal-guy-[h,cr]acker-turns-savior-wannabe.

Item 2: This is sort of a nitpick, but is not out of place on /. A Sentient, a machine which can enter the Matrix disguised as a human, accuses Neo of numerous incidents of illegal "hacking." Now we all know that he should have said "cracking," not only because that is the correct term but because it would have been a good opportunity to educate movie-goers about this term. One would have thought that by 2099 they would have gotten it right.

Item 3: To find out where in the Matrix to send themselves, the revolutionaries have to have a real world visual interface to it. Since they do not have the computing power or whatever to display it in 3D on their LCD panels, they just read the object code, which looks like horizontal streams of cuneiform or ideograms, directly. Two words: yeah right. Now this is not quite so bad for a bunch of film people who would not know about what they are talking anyway. However, it is their further artistic indulgence that bugged the hell out of me. Neo, when he figures out all of his powers, starts to see all of the Matrix in object code, and not just strings of it in his head, but object code forming the outlines of everything in the Matrix (like using just ASCII to make a picture). ARGH! Conclusion

On the whole, I really enjoyed this film. It probably will not win any awards for being a groundbreaking artistic masterpiece, but the imagery is engrossing and immersive and the plot has that nice mixture of believability and unbelievability that makes for good science fiction. Go see it at a matinee tomorrow all you people who have Friday off, or Saturday even.

I know, I know: This review sucks, I suck, /. sucks, Rob is an idiot, Katz is a windbag, etc.

Here is the Salon review http://www.s alonmagazine.com/ent/movies/reviews/1999/04/02revi ewa.html [salonmagazine.com]

-l

My review which was not posted (surprise) (1)

Luyseyal (3154) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951519)

sorry, forgot to kill the H1 tags.

correction:

Negative

That said, The Matrix was not perfect. Item 1: Keanu Reeves. Why, God, why?

everything else seemed to be at least readable.

-l

Stop-Motion Pan (1)

Luyseyal (3154) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951520)

see HBO's the making of the matrix. they have like 122 cameras in a semicircle at different angles. what's cool is you can reverse the shot as you go and other neat stuff.

-l

The Taco vs The Katz. (1)

crulx (3223) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951522)

Perhaps this falls under the Me Too domain, but I just wanted to say that I really enjoy these Taco vs Katz movie reviews. The only real problem is that Taco and Katz have similar tastes, so we really don't get the S&E type of dynamicisim.

I like Keanau Reeves. (1)

Ken Broadfoot (3675) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951523)


However not recently. His very best part ever was in "The River's Edge".

Crispin Glover was great in that too.

Ken

Damn fun movie (2)

Scott Madin (5020) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951534)

The Matrix is one of the most fun movies I've seen in a theater in the past several years. I agree pretty much wholeheartedly with Rob's and Jon's reviews.

I'd also like to note that it had a lot of similarities to Dark City, another movie I enjoyed a great deal. Not that this is a bad thing.

When I saw it, it had a trailer for a movie called The 13th Floor, which has a similar, and likewise interesting concept to The Matrix and Dark City, but looks like it's not carried off nearly as well--an interesting juxtaposition.

FreeBSD used for the FX... (1)

reg (5428) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951542)

Hi,

Just a little FreeBSD horn blowing... A farm of dual processor FreeBSD boxes was used for the rendering of the the comupter graphics effects, much like the Linux farm used for Titanic. No details for now, but there should be a link somewhere soon.

-Jeremy

Roger Ebert 3 stars (of 4) (1)

Latrell Sprewell (6906) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951544)

Even Roger Ebert liked this movie a lot, which is surprising considering his dislike of Sci-Fi. What surprised me the most was Keanu Reeves doing yet another cyberpunk movie with what seems like a hard-to-follow storyline after the disastrous Johnny Mneumonic...

Saw it, Loved it (1)

Cosmo (7086) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951548)

Me and 10 friends went and got tickets early and stood in line. We're a mix of hackers and near computer illeratities. I, being more of the hacker type, highly approved. All the non-geeks dug it too, it's an awesome flick, I highly approve. Go see it as soon as you can and avoid any spoilers, I had no idea what it was about and I really liked it that way. This is really worth the trouble of waiting in line and getting a good seat.

SPOILER hacker/cracker (1)

L. Ron McKenzie (7095) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951549)

You wonder why your review wasn't posted? It's a summary of the movie and one huge SPOILER. Why didn't you tell us how it ended while you were at it?

As for "item 2", I hope you are joking. You got it backwards - by 2099 maybe bitter hackers will have understood that the hacker/cracker semantics war was lost to the mainstream journalists more than 100 years ago. But then again, hackers are notoriously stubborn about some things.

Sounds like scriptwriter was reading Descartes (2)

D-Fly (7665) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951552)

When he famously sits down in that easy chair by the fire, and starts thinking about what he actually knows about the world, Descartes decides that everything he has ever perceived might be an illusion foisted on him by an "evil genius"/devil who is lying to him.

It's interesting how many of these technology-as-the-root-of-evil films come out of Hollywood. Are they merely mirroring our own fears of replacement/domination by machines?

i thought it was going to suck... (1)

kuro5hin (8501) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951558)

But of course, it had Keanu in it, so like any good drone, I thought to myself "must...watch...Keanu." As it turns out, this movie is easily the best hacker movie ever made, probably the best action movie ever made, and might very well be my favorite movie ever. Imagine if John Woo's Hard Boiled, Aliens, the Terminator (I), the FX from T2, everything Wm. Gibson ever wrote, and Jackie Chan met in a dark alley in the future. Yeah, it's THAT good. Tip for those in the DC area, see it at the Uptown on Conn. Ave. Prequel preview included as well! :-)
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Confession (1)

kuro5hin (8501) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951559)

Don't forget "Point Break"! Fellow Keanu fans, unite and stand against the heretics!

"Pappas. What a hard-on."
--Point Break
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The Omega Point, A Singularity, & Another Review (2)

Evan Vetere (9154) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951562)

Normally I don't mind these Katz vs Taco review fests, but honestly, I think mine was better than either and gave away less important detail. Yer too fluffy, Taco - throw some substance in. We're not reading a review to have everything glossed over like that... Katz has ya beat here. ;)

But while I'm posting: Hey, JonKatz! The technological runaway you describe is not an Omega Point, it's a Singularity, a point at which our current models of technological progress cease to apply. And that occurs once a posthuman/superhuman intelligence is created, not just an artificial one. I wish they'd hashed that out slightly more in the film.

For clarification: The Omega Point is a concept debuted by Frank Tipler in his book The Physics of Immortality [amazon.com] : He claims that at the end of the Universe, during the Big Crunch, there will be an Omega Point at which time all that the Universe has ever experienced will exist once more, and all the consciousnesses that ever graced the Earth will once again be active. I think he's a crock.

Vernor Vinge was the first to really express the Singulairty concept well. This is the text of his thesis on the subject:

Paused Pan effect (1)

cpeikert (9457) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951563)

Actually nobody really uses the "take several simultanenous pictures in a semicircle" method to do those pan-around-a-paused-scene effects. It leads to motion that is not smooth enough, and often the different cameras are under different lighting conditions, reducing the effect of the shot. All the ones you see on TV or in movies are done with only two cameras (max 3) and with computer interpolation to fill in the rest of the path.

Don't laff - AlGore is currently being... (1)

ch-chuck (9622) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951564)

...programmed into a positronic neural net to
RULE US ALL after Neat-O establishes the new UN global one world order

wait, it the day AFTER 4/1

BooBOo

Hide this spoiler (1)

DeathB (10047) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951566)

will someone moderate down this spoiler? I just read it by accident...

Right On (2)

DeathB (10047) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951567)

I agree with almost everything said in the the two reviews.This movie was cool enough to almost make up for other movies such as "The Net". One thing that noone mentioned was the soundtrack, which was also better than expected. The cinematography was truly amazing in this movie, many of the scenes were done with 2 motion cameras and hundreds of still cameras so that they could pan around a stopped scene. I was also amazed to see Reeves not kill a movie. I don't usually like him as an actor, but he was awkward enough to work.

Even the martial arts were good ( I'm a second-degree black belt ), the fight director for this film has done scores of other movies, but I believe this was the first one not done in Asia.

Sci-Fi has been so bad lately, The Matrix is very much the exception. You won't be able to make it through without thinking over and over again, "Cool!"

The Matrix / Star Wars... Movie of the Year... (1)

8Complex (10701) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951569)

Personally, I think that The Matrix was so good that it will directly rival Star Wars as Movie of the Year. The effects were seamless and killer. The filming was done perfectly to draw you into the movie headfirst and never let you down until the credits. Personally if I had to choose between which movie I want to see more right now, it'd be The Matrix. Star Wars can wait another 6 months, I'll be happy with this. :-)

The movie concept in itself, almost reminded me of Hackers as it started and sprung off towards Aliens, Star Trek, and even had a little Men In Black type of stuff going on. One of the things I really liked about the movie, being set so far in the future, is that for the most part all of the weapons were modern-day weapons, not some tiny laser-firing pen that can annihilate buildings with a 2-second blast. Makes for a much more engrossing movie since it is very easily and quickly imaginable.

The concept behind the "Matrix" itself is one that has been addressed in a bunch of other movies, except this movie makes it seamlessly believable and in full, totally engrossing.

All in all, when you leave the theater, expect to feel like you have some superpowers and feel like beating the hell out of some people. Definetly one of those movies that'll put you in a fighting mood, along with a thinking mood also.

I just hope that everyone out there that is playing with AI realizes to keep in on a secure isolated system.

8Complex

Apart from the asshole behind me, a great movie (1)

korc (11064) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951570)


I will be seeing this again, and maybe again and again. Do not wait for the video release, it would be only a pale shadow.

There were times when I thought the effects were overused, but the story was great even Keanu's acting was for once pretty good and worthy of praise. Hell, even the NPR movie critic liked it!

It's worthy.

strange casting... (1)

cody (11975) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951573)

It's just hard for me to buy Ted Theodore Logan aka Keanu as some hacker guru when I doubt in actuality he could operate a toaster.


Cody -- http://www.howstrange.org [howstrange.org]

Stop-motion panning (1)

Stiletto (12066) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951574)

Stop-motion panning has to be the most overused effect on movies and TV today. [sigh] From commercials to MTV to movies... I guess it's like everything that's cool at first but once everyone starts doing it it loses its value. See "slow-motion", "morphing" and the "Netscape blink tag" for other examples of this phenomenom.

The Matrix + Phantom Menace = SciFi's return? (2)

Zonk (12082) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951575)

Wing Commander...

Don't avoid it. Lots of us went to see it, and had to physically restrain ourselves from throwing things at the screen. Sharp things, with pointy ends.

Sci Fi movies lately have been terrible. Absolutely godawful. The Semi-Sci-Fi Enemy of the State was one of the notable "coulda been but wasn't" sci fi movies of late.

Thus, to be sitting half an hour into Matrix, have them reveal what the Matrix is to us, and to have a little light bulb go on in the back of my head that says "Damn! I wasn't expecting that!" was pure delight.

Between the Matrix, and the Phantom Menace (which, for the sake of argument, I'm going to pray to whatever gods exist in the place a long time ago and far, far away that it's as good as the original holy trilogy) perhaps we're now coming out of a long drought of palatable sci-fi/geek movies.

Examples? In order of their release: Disney's Inspector Gadget, Cronenburg's eXistenZ, Burton's Sleepy Hollow, and Disney's Fantasia 2000. Let's hope we've seen the last of Wing "Gosh I don't think I once saw anything resembling a worthwhile plot" Commander type movies.


Watch Basketball Diaries (1)

lab rat (12325) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951576)

Leonardo DiCaprio isn't the one-sided no talent hack type of actor that Kostner or Harrison Ford is. He has depth in Basketball Diaries. It is amazing how different you'll feel about Leo after seeing it. A good movie consists of more than any single actors contribution. Keanu probably hurts the movie but a good script or director can compensate for any such shortcomings and from what I've seen and read this movie rises above its limitations.

I LOVED it! (1)

BigZaphod (12942) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951585)

This the one of the best sci-fi films I have seen in ages. I can't say much more than what has already been said here, but if you had any doubts from the commercials, ignore them and head out to the theater to watch! It really is an experience! And the bit about not blinking is totaly true. It was about 2.5 hours and I didn't even notice!! I was very nearly on the edge of my seat the whole time.



I just have one question... Where can I get me one of those red pills?

Isn't it a shame (1)

thegrommit (13025) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951586)

Loved the film, but isn't it a shame that so few sci-fi films really press our buttons like this?

Ignoring the obvious (the Jedi series, Terminator, 2001, Alien(s)), I can't think of too many Sci-Fi films that I wanted to recommend to my friends.

W O W ! (1)

Citrix (14447) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951597)

I didn't expect anything more than a little eye candy and got a whole lot more. I'm going to see it again soon.

Are *you* paying attention? (SPOILER WARNING!) (1)

BeBoxer (14448) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951598)

With respect to 3), I think the jump program was there to teach you how to exploit the bugs. To see someone make the jump would convince you that the bugs could be exploited. To make the jump was the "proof" that you could do it.

Damn fun movie (1)

Jae (14657) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951599)

but looks like it's not carried off nearly as well--an interesting juxtaposition.

for those of you that don't know - juxtaposition means taking dismiliar things and putting them next to eachother (together) to over emphiazize their differences.

wow - I can actually apply some of that useless knowledge i learned from my theatre appriciation class.

Keanu (1)

Industrial Disease (16177) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951604)

I think I've finally figured out Keanu Reeves as an actor. He's embarassed about playing such a goofy comic character in Bill & Ted that he was determined not to be typecast as such. Since then, he's tried so hard not to be typecast as a goofball that now he's being typecast as a stony, reserved man of action -- the "strong, silent type." Personally, I preferred him as the former; his acting in everything I've seen since has been pretty wooden. I guess that works for this kind of action flick, but Keanu should be prevented by Any Means Necessary from ever attempting to do Shakespeare again.

Can we let it rest now? (1)

Industrial Disease (16177) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951605)

Now that we've got a movie made primarily to show off the "virtual camera" 3-D freeze-frame effect, can we stop using it in every single commercial on TV? It's getting so tired that I'm sure Wired is going to do a cover story on it in the next issue.

Are *you* paying attention? (SPOILER WARNING!) (1)

TeknoDragon (17295) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951607)

1) Neo did indeed download the ability to accomplish common human tasks (use guns, kung-fu, or for Trinity fly a helecopter) all using the same neural interface. Katz isn't that full of BS.

2) Neo did have to learn on his own how to "exploit the bugs" of the Matrix as only he (as the Kwizats Haterach(sp)) could do. Katz might be off base, but I don't think he claimed Neo downloaded this ability.

3) It is possible, just like Morphius or someone else had to write the program to teach Neo to fight, they might have written a program that gave neo just a little spark of how to "exploit the bugs" in the Matrix, but he had to learn most of it himself. So Katz might not be completely off base if that's what he said.

Almost as good as Pi! "Technopagan-y" plugplugplug (1)

TeknoDragon (17295) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951608)

Loved the film! Yes, I say film!
For once in quite a while hollywood has come up with a "movie" that not only cost millions of dollars to make, but had a superb plot that was artistically integrated into it's superficial visual portrayal.

It is somewhat simmilar to Pi, not only in theme but in cinematography. In Pi (www.pithemovie.com) mundane tasks such as taking medication and walking down the street are sped up and heavily exaggerated. In the Matrix heavy action scenes (even when not in "bullet time") are slowed down to a crawl, incorporating computer art to enhance the scene. Both effects paint a physically surreal image by distorting time that matches their surreal themes and beautifully compliments the pace of the film in both cases.

While both movies are surreal, Pi is more believably surreal than the Matrix. Pi maintains a duallistically real and surreal atmosphere simultaneously throughout much of the movie. While the Matrix accomplishes this in the first half hour (through use of the "wake up! it's a dream" scene), it quickly explodes into a purely surreal and kind of cheezy universe where the majority of hollywood flicks reside. Of course, this doesn't make the Matrix bad, it just makes it a different sort of film.

One thing that thrilled me about the Matrix is the way that it portrayed computer technology. No, hold back the flames. I am of the firm belief that there is merrit to the idea of "computer mystacism".

How many of us completely understand our computer? Think twice, could you built one from the ground up? What if some cheezy sci-fi apocalypse came true and all technology was destroyed. Could you, even given unlimited resources, by yourself construct a computer? Could 3 or 4 of us do it? Could 50 or 100?

As much as we understand computer technology I don't think our dependence on current technologies and our innate awe at what that technology can do without us having to touch it has been a neglected realm of our attitudes towards computers.

Yeah, call me a crackpot, but there's something spiritual about it. Shameless plug, visit my site...


teknoDragon
technoPagan
http://technopagan.dhs.org/

p.s. I like the new Katz vs. Taco thing... it works very well!

Reeves techno-films (1)

joe network (17546) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951618)

As long as it makes up for the massacre done to Johnny Mnemonic by Reeves and cohorts, I'm happy.

Reeves techno-films (1)

joe network (17546) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951619)

Bah! I don't remember any floating dolphins in the book, there was no molly millions in the movie, and if I recall correctly he was trying to save his ass from the Yakuza, not save the world.

Reeves techno-films (1)

joe network (17546) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951620)

Must have read a different version, as the one in Burning Chrome had no dolphin, and he got whacked by a Yakuza hitman at the end.

Matrix Isn't Mnemonic (1)

gazpacho (18802) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951626)

Matrix has all of the right components - a dark movie without being too serious or silly. A reviewer at CNN.com compared the fight sequences to the slow motion fights found in Anime. The camera trick where time appears to freeze and the view pans around the actor certainly emphasizes the conflict. Kung fu, anyone?

I see a lot of posts bashing Kenau (sp?) Reeve's role as the teenage headbanger in "Bill and Ted"s. Actually I dug the movie at the time. A moronic role fit the light-weight comedy.

Actually the most embarassing stuff are Reeve's oh-so-recent movies including: "Devil's Advocate" and the uninspiring "Johnny Mnemonic".

Thankfully this movie isn't Mnemonic Part II. It is intelligent and entertaining. It works!

The Matrix reviews... (1)

Praxxus (19048) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951628)

Thanks o'Plenty to Taco & Katz for the reviews of The Matrix. When I first saw the ads for it, I was intrigued to the the point of salivation, but that one shot (you all know it) of Ted . . . er, Keanu . . . saying, "Whooooah!" with his typical stupified expression set the alarm bells a-clamoring.

Fortunately, every review I've read of it silences the bells more and more. I would recommend everyone interested hop over to CNN and read their review [cnn.com] of it. It's done by an ex-English teacher, so it gives a slightly different perspective. The reviewer also loved it, but trumpets the literary qualities of the script instead of the movie's relevance to the geek/hacker scene.

And, of course, the bitchin' special effects. =)

I'm afeared I'm gonna have to go see this one.

--

If you enjoyed the movie as much as I did... (1)

wandrLST (19416) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951634)

...then take a look at the comics [whatisthematrix.com] they've got up on the movie site. Most of the site is just the usual Shockwave hype crap, but they've put a series of really cool comics by various artists. See the movie first though, or some of them won't make much sense.

Thank God somebody finally made a cyberpunk movie (since Blade Runner) that doesn't suck. Sorry, I digress.

wandrLST

Saw it opening day... (1)

Enzo_Falzon (20212) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951636)

Attention K-mart shoppers...
I saw The Matrix on opening day (uh, two days ago I think) and I just have to say that it was a lot better than I thought that it would be. When I first saw the previews for it, I thought that it was a cheap knockoff of Shadowrun or maybe Neuromancer. It also didn't help that the star of the movie was none other than Ted himself. However the movie was great, and Keaneu (probably misspelled) a good enough job that it almost made up for the whole "Bill, your mom's a babe!"
That is all.

Just a short comment... (1)

Enzo_Falzon (20212) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951637)

I'd just like to say that I saw Pi about a month ago, and it was really great too...

But... (1)

rm -rf /etc/* (20237) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951638)

I'd go see it, but I have a rule not to watch movies that have Keanu Reeves, Leonardo DiCaprio, or Kevin Costner in them...

Reeves techno-films (1)

joekool (21359) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951641)

wrong--the dolphin was who he ends up teamed up with in the end of the story, for one thing---you need to both reread the book, and resee the movie, as other than adding a bunch of stuff at the beggining, it was fairly close, for a movie. if you want a bad example of book made movie, see any of the Heinlein crap that came out. they completely missed the point in all of them!

ah well

Taco vs Katz reviews (1)

mthiel (21378) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951642)

I think these "vs" reviews are really cool.

I think Rob & Jon should do a Siskel & Ebert style review thing now and then, just for kicks.

But... You *must* make an exception! (1)

havoc (22870) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951647)

This movie is way too good to pass up. I highly
recomend seeing it in the theater before reading
too many spoilers. Which if you are reading
this, the movie has probably already been
spoiled for you:(

No suprise.. but... (1)

Lotek (29809) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951664)

According to some of the movie sites, they are already in heavy discussions regarding sequels.

I'll be there.

Lotek---

The MATRIX (1)

T-Bear (31340) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951670)

I thought this movie rocked! I encourage everybody to go see it. I will admit that some of the K. Reeves acting was a bit cheesy, but what can you expect? None the less, the movie was still very good, and I think that everybody should go out and see it!

Great Movie (1)

Exodus (32551) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951673)

All I can say is that it is a total mindf*ck. Damn awesome f/x too.

ever read the comic? (1)

dangerboy (95056) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951687)

i saw the matrix opening night and was amazed, but was curious as how it compared to the comic.

thematrixisthebomb! (1)

yonnage (131665) | more than 15 years ago | (#1951689)

Damn.. This outa hold some people over till StarWars.. Must admit, seen "The Matrix" once too many times already, but well worth it. Kicked my butt!
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