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New Apple iPod with Photo Capabilities

michael posted more than 9 years ago | from the money-burning-hole-in-your-pocket dept.

Media (Apple) 776

artlu was the first of many to submit: "I was just watching my Dow Jones streaming news wire, and I saw that Apple is releasing a new iPod that will have photo captabilities. The news stated that the new iPod will be able to hold 25,000 photos as well as your traditional iPod functionality." Apple's got a page up about the iPod Photo and of course a press release.

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A LOT more new stuff... (5, Informative)

daveschroeder (516195) | more than 9 years ago | (#10633950)

In addition to the iPod Photo [] , which comes in 40GB and new 60GB flavors for $499 and $599 respectively, there's also:

- iPod U2 Special Edition [] ($349)

- The Complete U2, a digital box set of every song ever recorded by U2, plus some crazy and rare recordings, available in November for $149 via the iTunes Music Store, with a $50 certificate towards it with the iPod U2 Edition

- iTunes 4.7 []

- QuickTime 6.5.2 []

- iPod Updater 3.0.4 (2004-10-20) []

- iPod-focused Apple Store: iPod Store []

- EU iTunes Music Store added to 9 more European nations [] , with over 700,000 songs

- iTunes Music Store is coming to Canada in November

- Press releases []

Other cool things: in addition to its dock, the iPod Photo can also even output video via its own headphone jack with a special 1/8" AV cable, and the 220x176 65536-color screen also displays album art while playing, as well as color games, etc! (Don't have much/any album art? Get it! [] )

While Steve Jobs talked at length during the presentation about why Apple isn't doing video on a portable device itself for reasons of battery life, device/screen size, weight, etc, now that this device has video output capabilities, I think it's a clear sign of the direction; that is, future devices - or future firmware - being able to output video content to an external monitor/projector. Imagine this: your iPod dock, already at your entertainment center. The iTunes Movie Store (or, your own iMovie content). H.264/MPEG AVC [] (Microsoft WMV9/VC-1 has hit some snags [] in its bid for standardization). Download a movie, sync to your iPod. Drop the iPod in its video dock at your TV (or ANY device that has video inputs). Done. And a LOT cleaner and easier than having a whole separate computer that needs to be maintained as a part of your entertainment center. Add 802.11g with things like AirPort Express [] to the mix, and who knows what might come...

Re:A LOT more new stuff... (4, Interesting)

natron 2.0 (615149) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634049)

The only thing that bothers me about the U2 iPod is the fact that it is a sweet jet black color, but still uses the white ear buds...


Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10634195)

Hey Slashdot editors: How many Apple articles are you going to post this week? I ask that because only morons would buy Apple's overpriced faggoty crap.

Re:A LOT more new stuff... (5, Informative)

SilentChris (452960) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634207)

To be honest, I'm extremely disppointed in the iPod Photo offering. Before I get marked down as a troll, I have many legitimate reasons:

I own an Archos gMini400 [] . It plays DivX/XviD videos (full movies -- got Lord of the Rings and about a dozen MST3K episodes on this thing right now), views photos on screen and on TV (just like iPod Photo), plays music with album art (just like iPod Photo) and has 10 hours claimed battery life playing music, 5 hours video (although I've had it run closer to 7 hours). I also got mine for $340 by using CNet's pricewatcher feature.

Aside from the bigger hard drive, there's absolutely nothing to sway me to the iPod Photo from my gMini. The price is right, the interface is good (not as great as iPod's but few are) but an interface isn't worth $140 to me. The Archos works on both Mac and PC flawlessly, and even has a built-in CF slot (something photo sites have already frowned the iPod upon).

Unfortunately, I thought Apple's first color would have a lot more revolutionary features. Instead, they're playing catchup to other companies, with an expensive and not-so-worthy introduction into colored screens (I mean come on... they don't even win on battery life anymore). I'm personally very glad I jumped Apple's iPod ship a few months ago.

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Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10634211)

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More info (4, Informative)

gtpilot (821547) | more than 9 years ago | (#10633954)

A little more info:
Advertised 15 hour battery life
65k-color screen
220 x 176 pixel resolution
Same click wheel as previous generation
Not mentioned (at least in my first pass) is that, the dock will connect to tvs [] and display a slideshow.
Includes AV Cable (supposedly 3-plug RCA) The new ipods are slightly thicker. Each of the new ones is .75 in compared to .57 and .69 in for the 20GB and 40GB previous model. The weight about the same however, 6.4 ounces compared to 5.6 and 6.2.

Does anyone else think that this a bit overkill. 60Gb is a LOT when you are just talking about music and pictures. It would be one thing if this generation included video playback, but ... it doesnt. Not to mention $600 (and $500 for that matter) is really reaching, considering we are just talking about music and pictures

In other apple news Apple Launches 9 Euro iTunes Music Stores []

Re:More info (5, Interesting)

fracai (796392) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634024)

Overkill for some, not all. I'm using almost 30 GB right now and while I don't listen to all of that every week, it's incredibly nice having all my music in one place. If the 60 had been available when I bought my 40 GB just 3 months ago, I'd have bought it.

Overkill? (5, Insightful)

daveschroeder (516195) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634045)

Does anyone else think that this a bit overkill. 60Gb is a LOT when you are just talking about music and pictures.

Think movies.

See the last paragraph here [] .

Re:More info (1)

leperkuhn (634833) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634079)

Are you kidding? If memory serves me correctly, people were paying $500 for the 40 gig ipod not to long ago. $600 is pretty crazy.. I cant' say i'm buying one but it's really cool.

Re:More info (5, Funny)

Lev13than (581686) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634139)

Advertised 15 hour battery life
65k-color screen
220 x 176 pixel resolution
Same click wheel as previous generation

Still only a single click wheel? What a joke - they'll never be able to compete with Windows until they add a second one.

Re:More info (5, Informative)

Maskirovka (255712) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634155)

Does anyone else think that this a bit overkill. 60Gb is a LOT when you are just talking about music and pictures.

I could fill this up on a backpacking expedition or vacation.

290pics/gig *60 gigs = 17400 jpg
or 53pics/gig * 60 = 3180 raw photos from my d70.
That's not including the 5 gigs of music I might bring along too. Compare the cost of this (and an ipod CF reader) with other portable photo hardrive options and it should look very attractive.

Re:More info (4, Interesting)

commodoresloat (172735) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634190)

Advertised 15 hour battery life

That's only if you don't use the photo feature that you presumably paid an extra $100 to have. Battery life drops to 5 hours if you're watching slide shows while you listen to music. And they're warning customers now about the battery: "Rechargeable batteries have a limited number of charge cycles and may eventually need to be replaced. Battery life and the number of charge cycles vary by use and settings. See for more information."

Does anyone else think that this a bit overkill. 60Gb is a LOT when you are just talking about music and pictures.

So you're saying 40 gb ought to be enough for anybody? ;^) Seriously, I agree, this is overkill, but not for the same reason. I'm happy to see bigger drives on these things, but I don't really understand the need to make this into a photo device too. Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining, and I could see how it could be useful (esp. coupled with a tool to transfer digital photos from card media directly to the ipod without the computer, so you could keep re-using the card during a long photo shoot), but the screen size on an ipod is way too small to actually make it a useful photo viewer. Hell, the LCD on my digital camera (Sony T1) is bigger than the ipod screen. I'm not sure it's worth the loss in battery life -- I think I'd prefer a 60G ipod without a color screen for $100-200 less.

Then again, like I said, this could be really useful for photographers, especially given the ability to easily connect the ipod to a TV or monitor to show the photos. Again, crucial here would be the ability to easily talk directly to the ipod without having to go to your mac to transfer anything.

GNAA announces victory over Matthew Tanner Bonig (-1, Troll)

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You read it here first! (5, Funny)

grub (11606) | more than 9 years ago | (#10633956)

An iPod with picture capabilties: I dub thee The iPorn

Re:You read it here first! (2, Funny)

savagedome (742194) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634044)


Re:You read it here first! (1)

funny-jack (741994) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634062)

How incredibly original. []

Re:You read it here first! (0)

Wansu (846) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634098)

An iPod with picture capabilties: I dub thee The iPorn

Porn on th' Pod

Re:You read it here first! (1)

Kenja (541830) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634157)

I dont know about you, but I need my porn in better then 220 x 176 res'. In fact 220 x 176 is junk for any type of image. Thats lower res then an old Atari ST.

Staos (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10633960)

eff pee

HEY WTF?!?!? (1)

Ass, Ltd. Ho! (714400) | more than 9 years ago | (#10633966)

What is an iPod? I've never hard of that.


OH man, oh man!


Too expensive/not useful (3, Insightful)

lothar97 (768215) | more than 9 years ago | (#10633968)

I imagine this is just a little trick to get new people to buy an iPod. Who's going to spend $500-600 to store photos? I don't see current iPod users "upgrading," and I imagine there are some iPod hacks out there to store photos now (albeit without a color screen)

You can get cheaper products [] for $50 which will allow you to do more creative slideshows, effects, etc.

I think Apple missed the boat here. The killer function they should add to the iPod is a camera- which goes along nicely with the photo storage features. Nothing flashy or expensive, but for another $50 they could add a lens that's better than the cell phone cams.

Re:Too expensive/not useful (1)

grub (11606) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634040)

You can get cheaper products for $50 which will allow you to do more creative slideshows, effects, etc.

Cheaper, sure, but look at the size of that thing. I think the iPorn(tm) is a great idea. If users are able to dumb pictures from their digital cameras directly to this new gadget you could have your music, camera and lots of storage in 2 toys.

Re:Too expensive/not useful (2, Interesting)

gorbachev (512743) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634210)

That SanDisk player is priced that way because it's a SanDisk's attempt of creating a loss leader to pump up sales of their other products.

It's a poor example, although probably the best priced, of iPod Photo's competition, which, I believe, is way ahead of iPod Photo.

There are several personal media players with video playing capabilities out there with much, much better features (audio, pictures, video) and compatible pricing (if not at $50 a pop).

The iPod Photo will still, of course, sell well, because certain people will buy anything Apple produces no matter what it is. I think iPod Photo is way overpriced for its features, though the size of the hard drive might make it usable as a portable hard drive with a mp3/aac player.

The only truly interesting feature, from a technical point of view, is the ability to display the pictures in a TV set directly from the device. I'm not so sure it's very useful in the long term without video capabilities, but still.

Re:Too expensive/not useful (2, Insightful)

the_2nd_coming (444906) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634053)

well, if it allows me to hook my camera up to it on teh go and download the pictures, it is very useful.

Re:Too expensive/not useful (2, Informative)

daveschroeder (516195) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634092)

And funnily enough it does [] .

Re:Too expensive/not useful (5, Interesting)

squiggleslash (241428) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634073)

Actually, it does make sense. I'm seeing a lot of people with camera phones who use them, for the most part, to show pictures they've collected to other people. The major limitation of them is that they can only store pictures they took with the phone. I have a friend who is in absolute love with her two nieces and any opportunity she has she'll use to show pictures, but for now it's been email (awkward to make sure it's with you when you want it) or camera phone (only shows pictures taken and not yet deleted) bound.

I predict that people who buy iPods with this will use it - people will store their entire digital photo libraries on it and whip out the iPod to show friends and family photos they've taken.

While this functionality will not sell iPods alone, I think it has great potential to make an iPod that's a "I'd kind of like this" into a "I really want this". Slashdotters are, as usual, not what this iPod's aimed at. Think more in terms of proud family members - mothers and aunts especially.

Re:Too expensive/not useful (4, Insightful)

Slack3r78 (596506) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634123)

The first thing that popped into my head seeing this is whether or not it supports PictBridge. If so, they may be able to push it to professional photographers who are having to lug around a notebook as things stand right now. As much photostorage as a notebook but fits in your pocket while still providing a way to check what you've got stored? I could see how that would be appealing to someone with a DSLR camera.

Re:Too expensive/not useful (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10634181)

I purchased a Canon S60 with a 1GB card for my brother, who hates computers. He actually mostly takes family pictures and passes the camera around for people to look at them. As far as I know, he has never put the family pictures on a computer. He only has a work laptop, and I think he doesn't like to put anything personal on it.

On the other hand, he has thousands of dollars of lcd tvs scattered around his house, and he's into showing off the pictures that way (the Canon can connect to a TV, although the presentation is more primitive than on the iPod). Main problem is that even a 1GB card is easy to fill up. I'm pretty sure he is going to soon call me to ask how to get the pictures from his camera into his iPod Photo.

Re:Too expensive/not useful (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10634196)

Fucking anti Apple zealot... These things could come with a super model that blows you while you listen to it, and you'd probably still bitch. You'll look really cool draging that SanDisk player around, sticking card after card after card in it Poindexter.

Adding a digital camera to this would make it unacceptably large and heavy... two things nobody wants in an MP3 player... unless you added one of those crappy Aiptek jobs from WalMart. That would be pointless.

Bottom line... You're an idiot.

Photos, eh? (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10633969)

Now I just need my iPod to allow me to make phone calls and I'm all set.

I already have one (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10633972)

I'd take a picture, but the only camera I have is in it.

Re:I already have one (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10634054)

Maybe you could use a mirror? or are you some kind of vampire???

Re:I already have one (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10634177)

Yes, the vampiPod. It runs on blood.

You mean... (3, Insightful)

Chris Pimlott (16212) | more than 9 years ago | (#10633973)

Photo *display* capabilities. When I think of photo capabilities, I think of something take can _take_ photos.


Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10634036)

i know we all looooooooove apple to death around here, but uh, call me when it can *take* photographs...i really have no need to carry around 25,000 look at...and....look at again.

Yes, yes, sharing betwixt ipods...great and all, but i don't recall the last time i wanted to have a photo that was on a stranger's laptop...ever. Sure, it's nifty, blah, blah, blah.

Call me when it's rigged with a 4mp camera. Thanks.

Re:You mean... (1)

imsabbel (611519) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634119)

It has no camera included?
Oh well. With a 2xx*1xx screen, i dont think that watching photos on it will be that much of a selling point.

iPod Camera (1)

Otto (17870) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634151)

How much will you wager that this addon device is just a few months away? I mean, all they have to do is build a CCD camera that fits on top of the thing much like the camera that went onto the gameboy. It has a serial connection on the top as well as power and such. The headphone jack can be used as a line input for sound as well, if you wanted to record a sound clip along with the photo.

This is an addon that you can virtually guarantee will be created.

Why Are Other Companies Even Trying Anymore? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10633976)

Apple's dominance in the digital music market is simply staggering.

Whewt, yet another! (2)

KingPunk (800195) | more than 9 years ago | (#10633977)

joy, every 6months, a new ipod is released.
how entertaining is this?
i atleast hope it can show album art, while you're jamming to your favorite death-metal songs!

Re:Whewt, yet another! (2, Informative)

syd2000 (318027) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634114)

It can display album art, according to [] "...And did we mention that iTunes 4.7 also autosyncs Album Art? It's true. The Album Art downloaded when you purchase music from the iTunes Music Store is transferred to iPod Photo along with the music. So while iPod Photo plays your tunes, you can enjoy the Album Art -- in color, of course -- on the Now Playing screen."

iTunes improvements too! (5, Informative)

fracai (796392) | more than 9 years ago | (#10633982)

included with the announcement is news that 9 additional countries (Austria, Belgium, Finland, Greece, Italy, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Portugal, and Spain) in Europe now have access to the iTunes Music Store and that the much awaited Canadian store will be available in November.

Re:iTunes improvements too! (2, Informative)

selderrr (523988) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634166)

Testing from Belgium, I can confirm it works now, but the music catalogue is vastly inferior to the US version : Gene Ammons for instance has ONE CD on the belgian iTMS, while the US version has some 15 CD's or so...

Very frustrating. I hope they sync the catalogues fast...

first post? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10633983)

great but can you get a first post on it?

I like the Album Art option (5, Interesting)

Hawthorne01 (575586) | more than 9 years ago | (#10633991)

One of those little extra touches that always puts Apple products ahead of their competitors.

Re:I like the Album Art option (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10634104)

One of those little extra touches that always puts Apple products ahead of their competitors.
If by "ahead of their competitors" means several other companies have already released media players which have had this same function for months now, then yes, I suppose you're right.

pshaw (2, Insightful)

anthonyclark (17109) | more than 9 years ago | (#10633993)

So it can store photos. I can do that right now on my 20G ipod.

And it can display photos on a TV, cool.

But it can't transfer photos directly from a digital camera? You need to buy an expensive yet crappy belkin adapter for that? No thank you.

It would've been cooler had it been able to display keynote presentations to VGA...

I say it's another cube for apple.

Re:pshaw (1)

squiggleslash (241428) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634115)

So it can store photos. I can do that right now on my 20G ipod.
The key feature is that it can show photos too. Geez!

captabilities ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10633994)

captabilities meaning can capture photos ?

Re:captabilities ... (3, Funny)

Big Mark (575945) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634136)

No, it meows when you turn it on then it scratches your face off if you handle it too roughly and manage to ding its hard disk.

I think the "shit all over the carpet" feature is for the next generation.

Here's why it will fail... (-1, Flamebait)

moehoward (668736) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634006)

One word... Metadata. Date, names, subject matter. Position...

People HATE putting information in with their music or photos. Or video, for that matter. This is why freedb and such services are so fricking popular.

The iPod needs metadata. People will not suddenly start putting information along with their photos.

Therefore, the Photo iPod will fail.

Re:Here's why it will fail... (4, Interesting)

presearch (214913) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634109)

Every version of the iPod was predicted to "fail". From the original 5Mb to the mini.
And every prediction was incorrect, to say the least.

The iPod Photo will be wildly successful, and evolve to be the standard by which all others are judged.

Re:Here's why it will fail... (4, Interesting)

CountBrass (590228) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634135)

You're an idiot.

Sure if you had to edit some XML file it would never happen but Apple doesn't make you do that. It stores meta-data without you even noticing: meta-information from cameras is transparently copied over and used, other meta-data is attached just by dragging a photo to a folder.

The same is true of album art, drag and drop and it's there.

Not everything (fails to) work like Windows: that's why those of us who value our time pay a little extra to buy a properly designed system rather than some cobbled together crap from Dell and Windows.

It syncs iPhoto/Photoshop albums (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10634146)

It syncs with iPhoto and Photoshop albums. I don't see how this would be a big deal.

Here's why it won't fail (1)

TimmyDee (713324) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634168)

Actually, I don't think it will because Apple has realized that people don't want to have to use the small devices they carry around to organize their data -- they want their computers to do that, with their large screens and easy input methods. Having the iPod Photo sync with iPhoto (or whatever else), you can sort your pictures into albums before putting them on your iPod, just like playlists. That way, you can go right to the album you want to share and present a slideshow right away. No need to sort or sift.

Re:Here's why it will fail... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10634173)

See those little thumbnails? That's all the metadata most people need. To most people a photograph isn't data (which requires metadata to make it interesting) -- it's a PICTURE. You LOOK AT IT, you don't keyword search it.

Sure, if you have a lot of pictures, looking at all of them to find one is hard. But I assume it will support the "photo album" concept of iPhoto (and the other compatible apps) just like a playlist. That's all you really need -- basic categorization.

Re:Here's why it will fail... (1)

spicyjeff (6305) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634200)

Have you not used digital photo management software? People are already creating digital albumns and putting their phtotos together. With iPhoto it even has 'Smart Albumns' which group photos on the fly.

iPod Photo supports and syncs with albumns from iPhoto on a Mac or with Adobe Elements or Adobe Album on a Windows PC.

Re:Here's why it will fail... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10634205)

What people? Those ones who name their mp3s like "artist-album-track-name.mp3"? I don't think the iPod is being marketed toward that niche in the first place.

As for other metadata, most of that is stored in the database file on the iPod itself. Same with the iTunes db. Reason being is that you can play a track 500 times in iTunes and it'll remember that information. You nuke your library file and re-import, and that track is back to zero plays.

So the information is associated with the file, but it's not necessarily put into said file.

CmdrTaco Says.. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10634009)

No wireless. Less space than a Nomad. Lame.

New Audio-Related Features? (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10634010)


Photos and contacts and solitaire sounds like fun stuff, but what about any new audio related features--you know, since it's an audio portable and all.

Something tells me they managed to overlook Gapless Playback and OGG/FLAC support again.

Re:New Audio-Related Features? (1)

fracai (796392) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634158)

Sadly I think they're looking at the import "connected" tracks as one as the solution to gapless playback. Apple has an iTunes feedback page [] that needs some posts to hit it.

Santa? Are you listening? (3, Funny)

YetAnotherName (168064) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634012)

If so, please visit ... please?

I've always found... (4, Insightful)

soulctcher (581951) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634013)

that photo capability as a secondary feature is just about worthless. Pretty soon, I'll have a phone that surfs the web, plays games, takes photos, cooks dinner, plays mp3s, wavs, oggs, avis, mpegs, and can predict the weather. None of which I'll be using since my ipod will do that anyways.

Yay! (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10634030)

Now, when do we get Linux on it?

new gadgets of the future (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10634031)

soon there will be super duper gadgets that will be a cellphone, digital camera, digital music player, GPS, PDA, USB memory stick, all in one SuperGadget! it slices, dices, and does all those hard to do tasks in the kitchen too...

supplys limited, call now

Missing Feature (2, Insightful)

rgmoore (133276) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634035)

Sadly, Apple has made a mistake by failing to include a card reader. The iPod Photo is stuck in the paradigm of digital music, in which your computer is the center and the iPod is just a way of making the music more portable. For photos, though, I think of my camera as being the central point, not my computer. Being able to download directly from my camera's memory cards to the iPod would massively increase the number of pictures I could take without needing to go back to my desktop or haul around a laptop. Without that, this is just a minor improvement, but with the ability to download straight from memory cards it would be a major step forward.

Re:Missing Feature (1)

TylerL82 (617087) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634108)

Something like this is probably what you're looking for... bjects/A ppleStore?productLearnMore=T7418LL/A

You can get one... (4, Informative)

daveschroeder (516195) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634125) [] .

Re:Missing Feature (1)

keytoe (91531) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634163)

failing to include a card reader
Almost all of the missing features I'm seeing people bitch about here (camera, card reader, etc) will be available as third party options that connect to the dock port. I'll guarantee that for you...

Re:Missing Feature (2, Informative)

netik (141046) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634164)

But apple included software in the existing Ipods to read smart media cards and copy data from cameras.

Belkin makes this card reader: /b elkin-media-reader-for-ipod.html .. so I don't see what all the fuss is about!

Re:Missing Feature (1)

ecc962 (792707) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634176)

220 x 176, eh? Someone will be already wondering if they can write a ZX Spectrum emulator for it.

Saw this one coming! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10634038)

It was just a metter of time for the ipod to get these new capabilities.

Notice that it features now an AV port to plug it to your tv set, etc.

Since the ipod is basically a small computer or some sort of a PDA, minus PDA funtcions, will it be able to play Quicktime video with an Ipod software update in the near future?

Seems to me Jobs & Co. are moving in that direction... Looks to me like the substitute for a portable DVD player, vcr or something like that. Bring a good portion of your video library on your pocket, play it everywhere. ( ITMS videos for sale coming soon?)

Too expensive... (1)

mschaef (31494) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634041)

I like the idea, but it's too expensive considering that it's not a phone, the display is as small as it is, there's no PDA capability, and there's no way to change any of this by installing software. This is yet another example of Apple/Jobs introducing an expensive, closed, ultimately ascetic, but very well designed piece of hardware.

Ah Ha! (1)

Brandon One (760352) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634050)

So that is what the 60GB hard drives ordered by Apple from Toshiba are for.
Previous /. article with speculation found here [] .

Happens again.. (5, Insightful)

marcosc (801468) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634056)

Here we go again, people saying this iPod won't be a hit. They said the same thing on the original iPod and the iPod Mini. Those were both huge hits, and this one will be too.

Missed oppportunity (1)

Dazza (2865) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634058)

I'd love for someone to tell me I'm wrong here, but....

What I was hoping for from this was an iPod that has an SD card slot. If I'm out and about ( the most likely time I'll use an iPod ) then being able to move the images from my camera's SD card to the iPod, freeing up space and letting me more easily review the images would be perfect.

Looks like Apple have missed a chance here - with an SD card I'd have bought one ASAP, as it is, I'm stuck looking for a product that meets my needs.

Does anyone do such a product !?

Re:Missed oppportunity (1)

hotblack296 (318557) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634086)

Belkin Media Reader bjects/A ppleStore?productLearnMore=T7418LL/A

Re:Missed oppportunity (1)

Hawthorne01 (575586) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634105)

Re:Missed oppportunity (2, Insightful)

Dazza (2865) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634141)

I want it built in to the product, not *another* piece of kit to carry round. If Nokia are going to build SD card reading into phone, surely having it build into a iPod type device isn't too much to ask ?

so close (3, Insightful)

joelhouse (457100) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634059)

They just added Album Art, but I want to see the entire Album insert, lyrics, artist facts and news. How hard would that be to add for songs purchased from Itunes. Think of the Value-add. It would be nice to have a FM transmitter was well.

Re:so close (1)

jasonbowen (683345) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634188)

Yeah, I don't see the value in it but I guess I'm not their target demographic with it. You sir, have some good ideas and I think they should listen to them.

And yet. (1, Insightful)

k_stamour (544142) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634060)

Still no ogg.

Re:And yet. (2)

Freggy (825249) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634149)

Try the IAUDIO ( It has Ogg Vorbis and Ogg FLAC support, and a radio tuner.

Since it supports video out... (1)

antdude (79039) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634063)

I wonder if you can hack it to do videos.

Photo quality (2, Interesting)

fembots (753724) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634072)

I did RTA, even another click to Tech Specs, but where is the specs for the photo quality, ie megapixel? or are the photos as big as iPod's screen resolution of 220 x 176?

To borrow a phrase from television (2, Insightful)

Delphix (571159) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634075)

The iPod just jumped the shark. There's a point in the life of a product where you try to integrate too much functionality. The iPod does music, and it does it very well.

Granted some people like these new integrated all in one cellphone, photoholder, music player, portable video players, but I'm going to have to go with "more is less" in this case.

I think certain devices (like the GameBoy Advance and the iPod) do well because they do one thing and they do it well. As long as they don't cripple or obfuscate the basic functionality, the iPod will still do fine. But once a company loses sight of what the product was made for and start trying to make it a swiss army knife, things tend to go downhill (N-Gage?).

I still like the iPod and I don't think it's going away. But I think Apple's starting to toe the line on the border swiss army knife land...

Re:To borrow a phrase from television (1)

WormholeFiend (674934) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634126)

maybe Steve Jobs revised his philosophy, and now he believes his company can make a device that does more than one thing very well?

Cmon, Steve, where's the video iPod?

Huh. (4, Informative)

captnitro (160231) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634076)

I'm on a few different sides of this. (It goes without saying, first, that it looks pretty cool.)

The iPod has revolutionized music in the past few years because of its simplicity and style. It does one thing, it does it very well, and it looks damn good while doing it. The iPod Photo kind of blurs those lines. Obviously, the iPod could become the next-gen portable media center: music, video, a Belkin iTV something-or-other. This gives us a glimmer of where they plan to go with this. iCinema Movie Store?

It might not, also, but I'm leaving it up to somebody else to consider thinking of ways the IP could change the way we even think about our personal photography and wallpapers and whatnot -- like the iPod changed the way many people listen to music (albums out, playlists & shuffle in). That is to say, it looks weird as a product now, but somebody's in a room somewhere thinking of ways to make this thing awesome -- maybe. And that's why I question its branding as a separate entity, because it can't just be an iPod with a color screen, no -- it's iPod Photo!

I know that whereas I have a good number of digital pictures, a $500 device with a color screen can't be $499.75 better than a damn CD-R (e.g., most DVD players now will do the same TV sharing thing with a CD-R full of JPEGs). And I own an iPod already, so I can easily see the argument for convenience among others.

I also want to know, where does this leave iPhoto? "Now, you too can organize your pictures.. in iTunes! But you don't. You just download them there. You organize your pictures in iPhoto but you download them with iTunes, but you can also do it in iTunes if you want. Got it?"

Music, and the way that we deal with it, is such a rich site for interaction (music, audiobooks, speeches, recordings, class lectures, whatever) that it's hard to imagine where they could take photos. But then again, I mean, music, yanno, you listen to it. Photos, yanno, you look at them. So who knows.

Screw photos (2, Insightful)

digital bath (650895) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634080)

With 40gb/60gb, you could store quite a few compressed dvds on there. I want an iMovie!

What happened to "focused?" (1)

jbellis (142590) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634081)

Yes, I remember what happened when the ipod was first announced and all the naysayers got this uncomfortable bitter look when it took off.

Still, who the hell wants to look at pictures on a small lcd or display them on tv?

MPEG-2 or 4 I could understand (doesn't iRiver's next player do this?), but photos? Big deal.

Not what I was hoping for . . . (1)

bedouin (248624) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634084)

I was hoping the rumors of an inexpensive flash-based iPod would come true, then I'd have an excuse to ditch my MuVo.

U2 iPod (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10634085)

damn that thing is UGLY.

iTunes Music Store still has some problems... (1, Informative)

arashiakari (633150) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634087)

I reformatted my iBook recently and after iTunes installed I logged into iTMS and attempted to download my purchased music again. No can do. I read in their FAQ's that I needed to play a purchased song in order to authorize my computer. So I hooked up my iPod and it asked if I wanted to point it to my new home folder /and make it match my new home./ Not wanting to endanger my music, I said no. Well... iTunes grayed out all the songs on the iPod! I couldn't play any of them, let alone sync with it.

I unmounted it and reconnected the cable and this time agreed to let it home to my new music folder. iTunes prompty formatted the iPod and deleted my only copy of the music I'd purchased. WTF.

I currently have a support ticket with Apple on this but they have not responded. I just wanted to warn people how easy it is to DEEP FRY your entire music library when you're reloading your computer. I've seen other forum messages saying that music can only be downloaded once, so I may have lost my stuff permanently. I wonder now if I had downloaded a free song from iTMS and used that to authorize my computer if the iPod then would have been available to play the songs on and sync with.

Presentations... (4, Interesting)

jdunlevy (187745) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634089)

No need to take your laptop to do a presentation; just load those "slides" onto the iPod Photo. [] : "Use the included AV cable to connect iPod Photo to a projector or TV."

Not interested (0)

Ars-Fartsica (166957) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634099)

Doesn't everyone already have a digital camera that has "real" features, higher resolution, etc? If I just want a low res camera, practically every cellphone now features one.

I would rather have a smaller music player than a larger, more expensive unit that provides functionality already implemented better by other devices. Sorry Apple, you dropped the ball on this one.

iSnore (1)

VidEdit (703021) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634120)

Wow! More features that I'm not clamoring for!

It has a low resolution color screen that can display photos? So what. So does my PDA, and my digital camera...and they have card readers!

While the 15hour battery is an improvement, what people want is useful stuff, like video playback, audio recording, protected Windows Media support...

Damn you (1)

AmmoBox (816999) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634128)

Today my iPod from is arriving. Apple has to release an iPod with a color screen on the same day. Talk about bad karma!

I wonder if I can exchange it at Best Buy?

iPhoto for windoze (1)

wessto (469499) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634131)

Does this mean iPhoto for windoze is on the horizon?

Photo Capabilities?? (0, Troll)

Ionizer7 (814098) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634143)

Hi Guys, I am new to this sweet website. With this new iPhoto iPod I can carry pictures of my girlfriend!

Does it support RAW image files? (1)

Samir Gupta (623651) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634198)

I shoot primarily in RAW mode with my Canon EOS 10D, which produce files much larger than your average JPEG, on the order of 5-6 MB each, so even GB sized flash cards fill up quickly, especially during special event shoots like weddings, etc.

Using the iPod as an image tank would really be useful for me... but does the iPod support copying the RAW files? (I know the RAW files are camera specific, but I don't really care about viewing them, I just want to store them...)

Hey, know what? (1)

drgath159 (821707) | more than 9 years ago | (#10634201)

My Axim, which is cheaper than an iPod, can display pictures, in a much better resolution. I can also watch movies, surf the internet, listen to music, chat with friends, use as a cell phone, take notes, be a planner, store my contacts, etcc... etc... etc... Only thing it can't do that an iPod can is store 60 gig of porn. Do you really need 60 gig of pr0n though? I'm perfectly happy with my 1gig at a time.
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