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Verified Voting

CmdrTaco posted more than 9 years ago | from the everybody-likes-the-eff-right dept.

Politics 363

Joe from the EFF writes "Verified Voting has just gone live with a number of tools for all you data-hungry election nerds out there. Amongst the goods: an election guide for geeks, a voter's guide to electronic voting, the Verifier database of county-by-county election information and the Election Incident Reporting System (EIRS) which will be used on E-day by attorneys and observers in the field to collect data about election incidents called into the Election Protection Coalition's hotline, 1-866-OUR-VOTE. The geek community is playing a particularly active role in this year's eleciton via VV's TechWatch program. However, we could still use the help of the slashdot community, and all you have to do is click: We need to test the resiliency of the Verifier database and the EIRS before the election.

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ouch... (3, Informative)

bje2 (533276) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656538)

ouch, the page is already loading very, very, slow, and i'm getting constant run time errors when i scroll over their map...not a good start...

Re:ouch... (1)

arivanov (12034) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656556)

Already barfing with a cannot connect to mysql server. What a joke...

Re:ouch... (1)

Tassach (137772) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656806)

When will people learn that MySQL, while a useful toy, just can't compare to a real Enterprise-grade database [sybase.com] running on real Enterprise-grade hardware [ibm.com] ?

Re:ouch... (1, Insightful)

Lordrashmi (167121) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656830)

When will people learn to code correctly instead of just pointing to another program as a silver bullet?

Re:ouch... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10656559)

which of the 11 links are you talking about?

c'mon submitters, lets keep it 3 links maximum.

Re:ouch... (1)

bje2 (533276) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656592)

...the verifier database page...

Election Guide for Geeks (5, Funny)

artemis67 (93453) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656565)

Uhhh... we vote for faster servers and more memory in 2004!

Re:Election Guide for Geeks (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10656624)

Hey hey!

Ho ho!

Slow-ass servers have got to go!

Hey hey!

Ho ho...

Re:ouch... (1)

bje2 (533276) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656567)

oops, that was in reference to the verifier database page...

Re:ouch... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10656571)

Slashdotted I presume

I really, REALLY hate you. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10656724)

Go to hell!

Love Always,
News For Turds

Re:ouch... (2, Insightful)

remigo (413948) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656844)

All in favor of waiting until electronic voting is mature and trustworthy before deployment raise your hand...

fp (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10656540)

frip prop

Hmm (1)

Spad (470073) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656541)

"Nothing to see here" and they're already slow - or maybe it's just me.

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Please don't vote (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10656550)

Please don't vote [derer.com] .

Re:Please don't vote (1)

gcaseye6677 (694805) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656733)

OK, the guy has a few good points, like that people shouldn't be voting if they aren't familiar with who is running other than who has the coolest campaign commercials. Other than that, it's not 1850 anymore. We shouldn't return to the days of only older men who own land being able to vote. Society belongs to everyone. That being said, everyone needs to take responsibility to become informed about their government and not just fall for the story line of whichever politician says what they want to hear.

Um... (1)

keytoe (91531) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656553)

Looks like there's a lot more work to do. Only a few minutes in and ... The Usual.

Re:Um... (1)

Short Circuit (52384) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656723)

Well, hopefully they'll be able to collect enough data to determine what their bottlenecks are. If they were smart, they set up logging scripts to watch such things as database connections, bandwidth used, CPU usage, etc.

hold on a second. (5, Funny)

deathazre (761949) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656562)

did we just get someone who ASKED for their site to be slashdotted?

Re:hold on a second. (4, Funny)

TykeClone (668449) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656585)

Looks like they've received what they asked for.

Re:hold on a second. (1)

cakefool (801210) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656734)

New sport: Slashdot Chicken!

Re:hold on a second. (2, Insightful)

AviLazar (741826) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656784)

I think /. has become the new basis for benchmarking a website. They submitted the story here to see if it can withstand pressure -it can't.
Maybe they will up their servers for e-day which should net as much traffic as /. causes.
Well thats just wishful hoping.

Re:hold on a second. (3, Interesting)

emc (19333) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656829)

If you want to see traffic, get your site on Drudge... or god forbid... the AOL start page.

I was working for a company that had a customer get a co-branding deal with AOL. 2 weeks of being on the AOL start page... sustained over 400MB/Sec up from around 25MB/Sec sustained.

You could almost tell the second the link went up on AOLs page, and when it went down... the MRTG 24 Hour View of the switch port counter was a massive square wave.

Beautiful, but insane.

Re:hold on a second. (2, Funny)

cananian (73735) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656817)

(I'm the lead programmer on the system.)
I actually explicitly asked that that last sentence be taken out. =(

Oh, well.

Re:hold on a second. (1)

emc (19333) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656868)

I actually explicitly asked that that last sentence be taken out.

I bet you that those were the exact words that came out of some GW Bush advisor when he said, "Bring 'em on".

Well... (4, Insightful)

aelbric (145391) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656563)

"Cannot connect to database"

Guess that's what you get for asking to stress test a server from /.

Re:Well... (5, Funny)

aelbric (145391) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656619)

So can we start adding little kill Icons to the /. menu bar for everytime we kill a server? Make it specific to the OS of the box that was flamed. Like fighter pilots used to do on the sides of their fighters.

You know, clippy, tux, a fedora, Darl.

Re:Well... (3, Funny)

halligas (782561) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656699)

It may save time and screen real estate to put icons for servers that survived a /.ing

Illegal? (1)

OECD (639690) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656638)

The database worked fine for me, but the EIRS url is "illegal" according to lynx--probably uses a re-direct.

Re:Well... (1)

GoofyBoy (44399) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656681)

7 out of 10 links are to one site on the front page of slashdot.

Obviously, this is a dare.

Re:Well... (1)

Bluejay42 (234007) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656786)

Have any of these webmasters heard of stress testing tools? Finding database connection errors could be a lot easier than directing a large community to click a link.

Apache Bench (ab) [apache.org]

Apache Flood [apache.org]

Jakarta JMeter [apache.org]

Microsoft WAST [microsoft.com]

Who hasn't voted yet? (5, Interesting)

Jagasian (129329) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656569)

I voted early last week. Why would you risk waiting until the last second to vote? Who knows what could go wrong. You could get sick, your car could break down, you could accidentally go to the wrong polling location, etc...

Funny thing is that on the second day of early voting, the polling location that I went to had a 30 minute wait!!! In 2000, on election day, there was no wait whatsoever! I think this year there is going to be a HUGE voter turnout. I am not sure who it is going to favor, but it is an interesting phenomenon.

Re:Who hasn't voted yet? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10656623)

Increased turnout generally favors Democrats, or so pundits have said. However, this one I think will still be tight.

Re:Who hasn't voted yet? (0, Troll)

donnyspi (701349) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656702)

If you go to the wrong polling place, you probably shouldn't be voting anyway...

Re:Who hasn't voted yet? (3, Informative)

timster (32400) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656875)

Yeah that's really good. Listen, I live in Texas, and the Texas state election site can't tell me where I'm supposed to vote or what precinct I'm in. Luckily I live in a county that's large enough to have a Web site (many in TX don't), but it's almost impossible to use that site to determine my precinct -- the first stage of map that you have to figure out only has bodies of water as landmarks. Also it absolutely is NOT printed on my voter registration card.

Enough with the elitism -- all citizens should be voting as long as they have knowledge about the candidates. That includes people who can't read or write, people who can't drive, people who can't add, people who can't talk, and people who can't do any of those things.

Re:Who hasn't voted yet? (2, Informative)

99BottlesOfBeerInMyF (813746) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656704)

"Why would you risk waiting until the last second to vote?

Umm, all of us people in states that don't have early voting don't really have a choice. I think that is still most of them. Thirty two states offer some form of early voting, but only twenty-three, like Florida, offer early voting to all registered voters. Even in those states, it is not offered in all counties.

Re:Who hasn't voted yet? (1)

NardofDoom (821951) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656766)

PA doesn't allow early voting, and absentee only if you're incapacitated or working al 12 hours the polling places are open, or are out of the state.

Luckily my polling place is across the street from my house.

Re:Who hasn't voted yet? (1)

HarveyBirdman (627248) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656732)

I voted early last week. Why would you risk waiting until the last second to vote?

The complete lack of any sense that it matters for half a Smurf fart?

VOTE KERRY 2004! We deserve him.

Re:Who hasn't voted yet? (3, Insightful)

liquidpele (663430) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656746)

"I think this year there is going to be a HUGE voter turnout"

I agree. Interestingly, I think it will be because people HATE the other candidate so much, instead of them liking theirs. Everyone I talk to seems to be "I HATE Kerry", or "I HATE Bush", but no one actually *likes* anyone anymore it seems...

Re:Who hasn't voted yet? (1)

NardofDoom (821951) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656792)

I like Cobb. [votecobb.org]

/me dons flameproof suit.

Re:Who hasn't voted yet? (1)

pgpckt (312866) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656776)

Ohio doesn't have early voting.

Re:Who hasn't voted yet? (1)

AviLazar (741826) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656812)

Unfortunately not every state has early voting

Re:Who hasn't voted yet? (1)

octothorpe (34673) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656892)

Can't vote early in PA. Letting people vote early would be a new, inovative idea and we don't allow those in the keystone state. If it was good enough for your grandfather, it's good enough for you. Heck, people are worring about electronic voting machines, we don't even have electric voting machines! I'll be voting with a lever machine that people probably voted for Truman on. Or maybe Wilson, who knows.

Already broken (0, Redundant)

DeDmeTe (678464) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656575)

MySQL errors...

Verifier /.ed (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10656576)

Could not connect : Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (11)

Note, this has been verified by me personally!

Re:Verifier /.ed (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10656648)

me too! no matter how many times i hit refresh I cant get the page to load!

Of course they are... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10656578)

"...and the Election Incident Reporting System (EIRS) which will be used on E-day by attorneys and observers in the field to collect data about election incidents"

Translation:

Lawyers keeping an eye on election incidents to capitalize on frivelous election litigation and class action suits to further their own pockets/agenda/polictical schemes.

Of course this will catapult them into office because of their noble legal watchdog attitude only to face the exact same irony during their own elections.

THE HORROR!!!!

MySQL db already not accepting connections (0, Offtopic)

Qzukk (229616) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656579)

I guess its not so resilient after all...

People, if you're not using persistent cursors, do NOT use persistent connections! (typically *_pconnect() in PHP)

Probably needs a little beefing up. (1)

mnoe (768671) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656589)

Could not connect : Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (11) on the Verifier DB, and timeout on the other

Yeah. (5, Interesting)

Staos (700036) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656591)

As a Maryland resident, I've tried to do my part. I contacted my elected officials [mdelect.net] and warned them about Diebold. I sent another round of faxes and emails after we learned that Diebold planned to gouge us "out the yin-yang" [google.com] if we wanted verified voting. Final results: a couple form letter replies amounting to diddly squat.

The most frustrating part is that my county already had perfectly good voting machines: paper-based scantron-type forms where you mark the appropriate rectangle and a simple scanner tabulates the results. Effective, verifiable, well-understood, and relatively inexpensive. In other words, the complete opposite of what the state just bought for us.

Re:Yeah. (1)

fishbowl (7759) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656649)

>I sent another round of faxes and emails

Politicians respond better to snail mail.
Why do you assume that faxes and emails will
actually reach them?

Re:Yeah. (2, Interesting)

donnyspi (701349) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656671)

I took plenty of Scantron tests in high school and college and there were frequently errors. Either the scanner didn't detect that a box was shaded or it thought two were shaded and marked the question wrong anyway.... arrrgh.

Re:Yeah. (1)

deathazre (761949) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656810)

thankfully the maryland absentee ballots are still in scantron form, so diebold can't mess up my vote.

Re:Yeah. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10656864)

No, you just don't get counted if the mail gets damp, or bent, or ripped or lost....

Re:Yeah. (1)

Jeff DeMaagd (2015) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656880)

Thankfully, my precinct was still using the scan forms during the primaries. The nice thing is that if your vote is invalid, such as checking off contradictory votes, filling in a circle that doesn't mean anything and such, it spits it back out for you to get a new form.

I wonder what it would take to get a better electronic system. My guess is that as long as both parties think they can manipulate the system, there is no point to

holy (0, Offtopic)

scaaven (783465) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656601)

Cannot connect to database

ot: i really like Bush's current defense against Kerry / people accusing him of losing those weapons - "don't make accusations if you can't back it up with proof or facts."

I don't know how he can't say that with a smile on his face--oh wait, he can't wipe that stupid "i know 2+2=4 so there!" grin off his face.

Re:holy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10656628)

that stupid "i know 2+2=4 so there!" grin off his face.

I believe the correct term is "shit-eating"

Re:holy (0, Troll)

OverlordQ (264228) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656667)

Not to feed the troll or anything,
From what I read in the article Kerry said "Bush is stupid, he didnt secure these weapons." The White House responded with "Weapons were already gone when we got there, NBC was there, they can corroborate". And here comes Mr. Lockhart with "OMG U STILL LIES!" even after being soundly proved wrong. Furthermore, why blame Bush? Why not blame the IAEA for securing or destroying the material? Oh wait, that's because Kerry is a U.N. lapdog, and dont want to piss off the U.N.

Re:holy (1)

ihaddsl (772965) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656782)

There are reports that they were there when the Airborne stopped off before there before heading to baghdad. So it does appear they were lost due to the lack of US forces securing them, but when and how is a bit of a mystery still.

more to the point though, if there had been WMD, it seems that the careless approach to securing these types of sites would likely have put these into the insurgents hands.

Re:holy (1)

bigjnsa500 (575392) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656865)

Wrong, wrong and completely wrong. The site was empty when the 3rd ID and 101st Airborne was in the area. Whatever was there was long gone BEFORE we got there.

sKerry's "October Suprise" just blew up in his face.

Re:holy (0, Flamebait)

99BottlesOfBeerInMyF (813746) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656758)

There is plenty of blame to go around for the explosives fiasco already, although it would be nice to have some more detailed facts. It certainly demonstrates incompetence on either the administration or the military's part. I mean if you are told that there are thousands of pounds of explosives in a location, after you invade shouldn't you at least check to see if they are still there?

Zort, Ptttzt.... (4, Funny)

nweaver (113078) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656608)

Slashdot 1, MySQL Server 0

Verified Voting has just gone live.... (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10656610)

Verified Voting has just gone DOWN!

Mr Wizard is broken (4, Interesting)

DunbarTheInept (764) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656614)

They had a nice wizard at www.verifiedvoting.org (one of the sites mentioned in the article) that would help tell you what voting technologies exist in your precinct, and what alternatives exist if you want a paper receipt of your vote. (In some places, absentee ballot by snail-mail is the only alternative to trusting Diebold, in other places there are more alternatives.) But, possibly because of the slashdot link, all the wizard tells me now is that it can't connect to the mySQL database.

Religion Sex and Politics (1, Troll)

loose electron (699583) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656616)

The three classical taboo subjects of the workplace.

It is my sincere hope that (relative) sanity will be restored to the US federal government in the near future.

On a personal note, I now know three guys (USMC from this area) dead in Iraq.

Anyhow, Then we can all go back the discussions on religion and sex. Those two don't have a paper trail to properly verify them either.

Seriously, a tight election in 2000 and 2004 have shown what a POS our voting system presently is.

Need to get an upgrade... Shall we outsource the job to India or China?

Re:Religion Sex and Politics (1)

nizo (81281) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656710)

Need to get an upgrade... Shall we outsource the job to India or China?

I would vote for India, but my vote would probably end up getting counted for China anyway.

mySQL errors early on (1)

ReverendLoki (663861) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656632)

"Could not connect : Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (11)" While only 7 comments in the thread. For what good this info is worth. This is the right link we're supposed ot be testing, right? The EIRS link seems to not have fallen yet at least.

Election "incidents" (4, Interesting)

Capt'n Hector (650760) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656660)

I'm no expert in polls, but isn't the best (only?) way to detect voting fraud is by statistical analysis? That is, compare paper ballots with electronic ones, and then those to exit polls. If those Diabolical... err Diebold voting machines differ from normal ballots by more than a few fractions of a percent, wouldn't that indicate some sort of foul play? Fire-alarm pulling, voter-registration-tear-upping aside, the worst threat to American democracy (heh, did I just say that) is a few lines of code in Diebold's server software, something like:
$record_vote_function() {
...
$i = rand(1,0, 0.000001);
if($i=1 && $vote="Kerry-Edwards") {
$vote="Bush-Cheney";
}
...
}

Re:Election "incidents" (1)

greyhoundpoe (802148) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656752)

Wouldn't this just assign *every* vote to "Bush-Cheney"? $record_vote_function() { ... $i = rand(1,0, 0.000001); if($i=1 && $vote="Kerry-Edwards") { $vote="Bush-Cheney"; } ... }

Re:Election "incidents" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10656795)

Hey your use of no line breaks and hard to read code looks familiar. Have I fixed your code before?

Re:Election "incidents" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10656890)

That sounds like a great idea in theory, but exit polls don't have resolution down to *fractions* of a percent - it's usually something on the order of *a few* percent. That makes the code you suggest even more dangerous - the vote is swung one way, but you can't tell since it's still within the error margin of exit polls. (google for Avi Ruben - I saw him talk and he brought up this very concern. Large deviations from expected poll results would be obvious, but small deviations in a tight election.....)

Another nail in the coffin for MySQL (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10656661)



Could not connect : Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (11)

not quite as "production ready" and everyone wants to believe

For Ohio and California Voters (5, Informative)

ecliptik (160746) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656664)

While looking around for information on who/what I am voting for I came across SmartVoter [smartvoter.org] which is run by the non-profit organization League of Women voters.

The site is put together nicely, and by entering your street and zip it prints out a full sample ballot of what you'll be voting on and where to vote. It's completely non-partisian and has a lot of information on each issue, with arguements for and against them.

If you're voting in either California or Ohio I'd definetly check it out before you go to the polls next week.

I'd comment on the links themselves but they're dead.

Uhhh... (1)

disbaldman (804041) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656674)

It looks like Verified Voting just went dead!

I tried it (1)

RealAlaskan (576404) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656676)

Since the Verified Voting site is gone for the day, I took a look at mypollingplace.com [mypollingplace.com] . They give me the correct place to vote, but have the wrong information on what sort of voting machines and how to use them. We don't use touch-screen voting here: the voting is done on paper ballots which are machine-read (think bubble-sheets).

Too bad we knocked them out; I wanted to see their voting guide.

Too late for me (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10656718)

Yeah, great.... too bad I already voted!

--Absentee Voter

hmm, very stange - electronic guide for geeks (1)

mackermacker (250587) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656720)

I only seem to get this [blueyonder.co.uk]

Congrats everybody for a job well done... (1, Redundant)

GillBates0 (664202) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656722)

*clap* *clap*

Could not connect : Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (11)

I know this'll be redundant by the time I get through clicking a few more times, typing, copying and pasting...but what the heck.

How Ironic (1, Flamebait)

linuxwrangler (582055) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656726)

That a site dedicated to watching over e-voting is itself not up to the task.

Of course any operation that uses a toy database like MySQL or Access deserves what it gets

Signed,
A ducking and running PostgreSQL addict

It's a conspiracy! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10656731)

The liberals are at it again. Will do nothing until they get what they want and thats an illegitimate president in the oval office.

My conclusion... (0, Redundant)

someonehasmyname (465543) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656736)

Could not connect : Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (11)

Fix the MySQL server.

Secret Message.. (5, Interesting)

donnyspi (701349) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656751)

Heh heh...

Go to Verified Voting site and at the top right click "Edit Preferences" Click OK without typing anything in...

Read the SeCrEt MeSsAgE!

Re:Secret Message.. (1)

iyliki (749547) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656847)

Yay! Mod points to that one!

Re:Secret Message.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10656853)

Haha! Now thats some funny shit!

Yup, it works (0, Redundant)

killermookie (708026) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656754)

Could not connect : Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (11)

Yup, looks like a typical site being slashdotted. All systems go!

But Does The System Work?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10656765)

We can't even begin to pull off an error free election. But supposing that we could, is the voting system itself inherently flawed in its ability to produce accurate results?

Let's find out [heartvote.org]

Well, since I can't get to the article... (4, Insightful)

teamhasnoi (554944) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656770)

I don't want to start a holy war here, but what is the deal with you Bush fanatics? I've been sitting here at my freelance gig in front of http://www.georgewbush.com/ (blocked outside of the U.S) for about 20 minutes now while it attempts to explain to me that Bush is doing a great job, the economy is stronger than ever, that he has never made a mistake in judgement, and that America is safer under his fascist rule. 20 minutes. At home, I can see one hundred reasons [thenation.com] why Bush is unfit for duty, which by all standards should be reason for his impeachment. If not worse.

In addition, during this fear driven propaganda-fest, free speech is confused with anti-Americanism. And everything else that has made the US a great place to live has ground to a halt. Even the ill-conceived 'freedom zones' are getting further and further away from this war-happy candidate as I type this.

I won't bore you with the laundry list of other problems that I've encountered while listening to mouth-breathers spouting Republican talking points, but suffice it to say there have been many, not the least of which is I've never seen a Republican machine that has run faster from the truth, all the while tossing 'loyalty pledges' and cease and desist orders at anyone who may disagree, despite the millions of people who share the need to be rid of this administration. My Tandy 102 with 32k of RAM demonstrates more resolve and better judgment than Bush most times. From a leadership standpoint, I don't get how people can claim that Bush is a superior candidate for president.

Bush addicts, flame me if you'd like, but I'd rather hear some intelligent reasons why anyone would choose to vote for Bush over other more truthful, reasoned, smarter and stable candidates.

Re:Well, since I can't get to the article... (0, Troll)

bigjnsa500 (575392) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656845)

*sigh*.. You're misjudged my friend. But I'll take a few of those, what you call facts. 1. Bush sent soliders without body armor. You'll have to look at the Clinton administration because it was his administration that cut funding for the military and did away with *projects* like that. So Pffft... Let's do another one.... #4 Being greeted as Liberators. As far as I can see, we are. #6, the banner. The sign was done by the crew of the ship, NOT the administration. And notice what he said, MAJOR combat action, not that EVERYTHING was over, but the BIG stuff had been taken care of already.

Just let it go Mr. Liberal. You're losing!

Re:Well, since I can't get to the article... (0, Offtopic)

bigjnsa500 (575392) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656885)

*sigh*. Oh well I have Karma to burn. It just goes to show you that /. is ONE SIDED. You don't want to hear the truth, you'd rather believe lies. So be it. Once you grow up and start working for a living you'll understand. Oh and one more thing...

FOUR MORE YEARS!!!

Kaboom... (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10656771)

Could not connect : Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (11)

I went to register: (1)

GillBates0 (664202) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656772)

And all I got was this ugly error message. Reported promptly to developers, though it's likely due to the /. effect.

Db error #1044 in EIRS

Error message was:
Access denied for user: 'vevo4-ro@localhost' to
database 'advokit'

SQL was:
insert into akeir_person (createdon,createdby,lastactivity,username, password,status,firstname,middlenames,lastname,nic kname,address1,address2,city,state_id,postalcode,p h_office,ph_mobile,ph_fax,ph_home,ph_pager,homepag e,email,imid,imtype_id,notes) values (now(),1,now(),'slashdot', '3ba3637e426f7ef4ad70a3600a6f06b3','A', 'slashdot', 'slashdot', 'slashdot','slashdot', '', '', '', NULL, '09832', '213-230-2302', '', '', 'support@slashdot.org', '', NULL, '')

I guess the test was a good idea. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10656780)

http://www.verifiedvoting.org/verifier/

Could not connect : Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (11)

If only we were allowed to test the electronic voting machines.

It just goes to show how MySQL isn't ready (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10656794)

for any sort of production environment. Keep it as a toy backend for blogs, but that's it.

error (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10656803)

Could not connect : Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (11)

mysql_error() (1)

AxsDeny (152142) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656834)

On the main page, in the body.

Could not connect : Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (11)

I think they have some work to do ... (1)

Dayze!Confused (717774) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656850)

Error: Unable to connect to MySQL server: : '' :Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (11)

I tried clicking on my home state of Washington. At least it gave me the error fast.

Online voting... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10656857)

I think online voting should be based on the /. poll!

Kevin Shelley (5, Interesting)

linuxwrangler (582055) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656859)

I find it amusing that the quote on the front page is from Kevin Shelley (CA Secretary of State) who is up to his eyeballs in scandals including misappropriation of federal voting money on Democratic consultants, accepting checks in his Sacramento office (a crime in CA), receiving laundered campaign contributions, etc. For the curious, here's just a smattering of the articles about him:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/ ch ronicle/archive/2004/09/30/MNG9U91ANA1.DTL
http:/ /www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/ch ronicle/archive/2004/09/30/BAGPE91B571.DTL
http:/ /www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/ch ronicle/archive/2004/10/07/EDGII94AG81.DTL
http:/ /www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/ch ronicle/archive/2004/10/08/BAG4M95J231.DTL
http:/ /www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/ch ronicle/archive/2004/10/11/MNGID9748P1.DTL
http:/ /www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/ch ronicle/archive/2004/10/24/BAGML9F94221.DTL
http: //www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/ch ronicle/archive/2004/10/27/BAGGE9FSN057.DTL

Seems like they could have picked someone better to quote.

(My preview is showing odd spaces in the URI - you may have to fix to view the articles)

survey says.... (1)

Doc Ruby (173196) | more than 9 years ago | (#10656869)

"Cannot connect to database". You're welcome.
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