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423 comments

SG IS ON TEH SPOKE! (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10662402)

OMFG have you seen the Suicide Girls 2 trailer it's like slow and it's telling you all the chicks you did in the first one then the music kicks in and and the Deppressed Goth Chick comes out and gets a piercing the mosh pit is on fire and DGC is like fuck this im jumping and SHE JUMPS INTO THE MOSH PIT with angels singing and she lands on the bad guys and that annoying goth lady is like GO GET EM TIGER! MARYLIN MANSON IS ON TEH SPOKE!!!~`1 and theres less polys but rawkin bumb mappings you can view this on a special SUICIDE GIRLS PC disk that comes with the intarweb.

*blink* *blink* (1)

SeanDuggan (732224) | more than 9 years ago | (#10662705)

That was extremely incoherent and yet extremely amusing. And sadly, that sounds like a lot of the user reviews you see these days. {shakes head} Very bizarre and yet it draws you like a train wreck.

Yes, this replay is only on-topic to the off-topic post above it. I've already stated my point of view on this, that Nintendo seems to have realized their mistake, have apologized, and are making amends. I personally think the original claim they made was a bit ridiculous (just mentioning the names of two games you like?) but I could see them not wanting their brand names associated with a porn site in search engine results. I suspect it was an automated system that picked them up and a relatively minor functionary who decided to send out the official letter. Nonetheless, Nintendo did the right thing in promptly apologizing and making amends.

Could it be... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10662405)

that this letter allowed me to get here first?

Can someone repost? (5, Funny)

Isca (550291) | more than 9 years ago | (#10662407)

Some of us are behind firewalls at work :)

Re:Can someone repost? (1)

Walkiry (698192) | more than 9 years ago | (#10662437)

I tried, but it's already /.ed.

Man that was fast...

Re:Can someone repost? (5, Informative)

marktaw.com (816752) | more than 9 years ago | (#10662443)

Hello,

We would like to apologize to you and to those who frequent the suicidegirls.com website for inadvertently contacting you about a fan posting on the website.

We know that many of our fans are old enough to make their own choice about what they want to view on the Internet. We value the support of our fans and we respect their decisions. The letter was sent as part of an ongoing Nintendo program to aggressively protect our younger consumers from the hundreds of sexually-explicit sites each year that use Nintendo properties to attract children. We are proud of our efforts in this area. Unfortunately, the site posting identified in our letter was targeted by mistake.

As a gesture of goodwill, we would like to offer you (and RuneLateralus) a free Nintendo video game system and game of your choice. (...)

In addition, we would appreciate it if you could provide us with contact information for RuneLateralus, or have him contact us directly, so that we may apologize to him. We would be glad to send him a game and system of his choice through you as well, since we do not have his contact information.

Sincerely,
Christie Hamilton
Nintendo of America Inc.
Consumer Service Department

Re:Can someone repost? (1)

NineteenSixtyNine (775581) | more than 9 years ago | (#10662649)

I am in a state of shock. I cannot believe they admitted they were wrong and apologized. I'd drop dead if a similar letter were to be signed by Mr. McBride.

Re:Can someone repost? (5, Informative)

Perdurabo26 (265403) | more than 9 years ago | (#10662449)

You can pick it up at MirrorDot [mirrordot.org] .

FYI (-1, Redundant)

eqdar (820698) | more than 9 years ago | (#10662455)


Thursday, October 28, 2004
Nintendo apologizes to Suicide Girls!
Nintendo sent the email below to the good people at Suicide Girls. Background here [boingboing.net] and here [boingboing.net] .



Hello,

We would like to apologize to you and to those who frequent the suicidegirls.com website for inadvertently contacting you about a fan posting on the website.

We know that many of our fans are old enough to make their own choice about what they want to view on the Internet. We value the support of our fans and we respect their decisions. The letter was sent as part of an ongoing Nintendo program to aggressively protect our younger consumers from the hundreds of sexually-explicit sites each year that use Nintendo properties to attract children. We are proud of our efforts in this area. Unfortunately, the site posting identified in our letter was targeted by mistake.

As a gesture of goodwill, we would like to offer you (and RuneLateralus) a free Nintendo video game system and game of your choice. (...)

In addition, we would appreciate it if you could provide us with contact information for RuneLateralus, or have him contact us directly, so that we may apologize to him. We would be glad to send him a game and system of his choice through you as well, since we do not have his contact information.

Sincerely,
Christie Hamilton
Nintendo of America Inc.
Consumer Service Department

Re:Can someone repost? (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10662642)

Someone really needs to write a HOWTO on getting around employer's firewalls and Internet monitoring, if they haven't already. Spoiler: run sshd and an HTTP proxy (apache or squid) on a spare box at home. Have sshd listen on port 443. SSH from work to home; forward a port from your desktop PC at work to your HTTP proxy at home. Configure your browser to use the proxy over the forwarded port. Benefits: your employer can't easily snoop your Internet traffic or control where you go. Hazards: suspicious traffic on port 443 may alert employer's network snoops. Obstacles: your ISP blocking incoming port 443, your employer's firewall blocking HTTPS access to your ISP. Difficulty: four out of five. Success rate: ? Unknown, but it works for me, and my employer is very paranoid.

Nintendo (5, Funny)

MyLongNickName (822545) | more than 9 years ago | (#10662413)

Sounds like Nintendo did the right thing after messing up. Time to forgive and forget.

Oh wait.. this is Slashdot :)

Re:Nintendo (5, Insightful)

MyLongNickName (822545) | more than 9 years ago | (#10662561)

*SIGH* This really wasn't meant to be funny. Or at least it was only meant as a funny way to make a serious point. I am a skeptical personal. But sometimes, you just have to take something at face value. Accepting apologies allows reconciliation. Not accepting apologies means we will always be at war with each other... see 99% of the world. Nintendo did something stupid. They apologized and made an attempt at correction and reconciliation. I have a lot of respect for that. Yet, it seems like it is human nature to be vindictive. And it also seems to be in the nature of Slashdot to be vindictive even when folks here were not personally involved in the original wrong.

Re:Nintendo (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10662601)

Well said

Re:Nintendo (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10662669)

You should stick to the jokes you get depressing when you get serious....

Re:Nintendo (1)

mr_z_beeblebrox (591077) | more than 9 years ago | (#10662709)

There is not much content to my post here. I was looking to say exactly what you said and rather than post redundant I will just say. Right on, 100%. Nintendo realized they were in err and Nintendo apologized (even issuing product as a goodwill gesture). By accepting the apology runelatus can show that he is a good upstanding moral person who believes in proper conduct in society. Thus he can cause a dent in the perception of SGs' audience.

Re:Nintendo (4, Insightful)

gamgee5273 (410326) | more than 9 years ago | (#10662758)

I think what's important to note is that it was Nintendo's lawyers who contacted SG, not Nintendo. My guess is that someone from Nintendo of America has chewed out someone at the lawfirm royally by now...

"All's well that ends well" (-1, Troll)

Gothmolly (148874) | more than 9 years ago | (#10662417)

Not necessarily, this was a trial balloon sent up, to see how site owners, fans and consumers would react to this type of action. The responses will be analyzed and new strategies designed for next time.

Re:"All's well that ends well" (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10662445)

Get some more tin foil from the store, part of your head is still exposed. The stupid part.

I have mod points, and wanted to mod this... (3, Funny)

John Murdoch (102085) | more than 9 years ago | (#10662450)

But "Obviously wearing tinfoil hat" isn't one of the mod options.

Re:"All's well that ends well" (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10662478)

Excuse me, you are standing on my dick.

Re:"All's well that ends well" (2, Interesting)

Rude Turnip (49495) | more than 9 years ago | (#10662617)

Luckily, all those years of playing Duck Hunt paid off and we were able to shoot that balloon down. Ha!...hoisted by your own petard Nintendo!

btw, anyone ever notice how much Nintendo stuff (clothing, stickers) is on the shelves at Hot Topic? They don't seem to mind alt.culture when there's a buck in it.

I said it before... (5, Funny)

marktaw.com (816752) | more than 9 years ago | (#10662419)

This was a stealth marketing ploy on the part of Nintendo.

"Hey, hot goth chicks like Nintendo games, how can we publicize this fact? I know, let's send them a nasty letter from our lawyers and 200,000 geeks will start to associate hot goth chicks with Nintendo."

And you all fell for it.

Re:I said it before... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10662462)

More like associate Nintendo with dumbass lawyers.

Re:I said it before... (-1, Flamebait)

DogDude (805747) | more than 9 years ago | (#10662482)

"Hey, hot goth chicks like Nintendo games, how can we publicize this fact? I know, let's send them a nasty letter from our lawyers and 200,000 geeks will start to associate hot goth chicks with Nintendo."

Actually, this geek now associates "Nintendo" with "sleazebag company that I won't ever buy from again." There is no fury like that of a geek scorned.

Re:I said it before... (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10662514)

Soooo, somebody makes a mistake and (when informed of it) both apologizes *and* offers to make it up to the offended. Now, I'm not one to shill for corporations, but how does this equate to "sleazebag company"?

Re:I said it before... (1, Insightful)

marktaw.com (816752) | more than 9 years ago | (#10662685)

Now everybody knows hot goth chicks like Nintendo AND we're going to give them a free DS so they can blog about it all day long just in time for the holiday season.

Sounds like a win-win to me.

PS: nobody cares that it was a guy who wrote about it, all they hear is "suicidegirls.com" and "nintendo."

Re:I said it before... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10662523)

There is no fury like that of a geek scorned.

Do I smell a slap fight?

Blame in the right place? (4, Insightful)

SeanDuggan (732224) | more than 9 years ago | (#10662600)

Bleh. It was probably some minor functionary overstepping their bounds who caused all this trouble. You'd might as well decide Walmart was evil because of a bad experience with a cashier. (Well, you'd be right about Walmart being evil, but for the wrong purposes)

Re:I said it before... (4, Funny)

D-Cypell (446534) | more than 9 years ago | (#10662491)

Nintendo Marketing Guy #1: "Why dont we create an elaborate ploy to associate hot goth chicks with Nintendo?"

Nintendo Marketing Guy #2: "GREAT IDEA!! Thats much better than Magic Mushroom munching italian plumbers.... get the lawyers on it"

Seems fairly sensible to me!

Re:I said it before... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10662504)

Kerry will put an end to this type of corporate behavior. Corporations need to understand that the day is coming where the people are no longer going to stand for this anymore. Profit is not a good reason to run a company, enhancing the overall good of society is.

Re:I said it before... (5, Insightful)

SilkBD (533537) | more than 9 years ago | (#10662596)

Profit is not a good reason to run a company, enhancing the overall good of society is.

Damn, I never laughed so hard in my life. I don't know what bizarro universe you live in... but companies exist to make profit, there's no way around that unless you're a non-profit company.

You see, they explicitly make a type of company called "non-profit" to destinguish them from all the other companies who exist for profit.

You, my friend, need to rethink your idealistic subjective reality.

No, businesses exist to serve the public good (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10662656)

It's only recent that money became our highest good.

Re:No, businesses exist to serve the public good (1)

MoneyT (548795) | more than 9 years ago | (#10662753)

Define recent, because last I checked, a bunch of kings through history weren't exactly concerned with "enriching" society.

Re:I said it before... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10662681)

You know, this IS /. You needed to make those <SARCASM> tags explicit.

Re:I said it before... (4, Insightful)

fatwreckfan (322865) | more than 9 years ago | (#10662546)

Except that the user that posted the names of those games was a guy [suicidegirls.com] . That doesn't meet my definition of a "hot goth chick."

Slashdotted... (-1, Offtopic)

cuzality (696718) | more than 9 years ago | (#10662422)

BoingBoing givin' me a bouncey-bounce...

well after RTFA (5, Funny)

JeanBaptiste (537955) | more than 9 years ago | (#10662425)

and checking out the suicide girls website...

I'd like to know why Nintendo's Lawyers are looking at goth-porn. That would seem far more damaging than a goth-porn site mentioning they like Nintendo games.

but what do I know.

Re:well after RTFA (5, Funny)

frankthechicken (607647) | more than 9 years ago | (#10662469)

Maybe they were doing some research for a future Mario adventure, Princess Peach always seemed to me to like the darker side of life, what with her constant "kidnapping" by Bowser, and her penchant for chains, whilst being locked up in Bowser's "dungeon".

Re:well after RTFA (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10662684)

Not Bloody likely. Just play the latest Paper Mario. A computer malfunctions after seeing her naked, and instead of realizing that, she thinks the computer is in love with her. Meanwhile everyother anthropomoph on the planet wants Mario's Italian sausage, and all Peach does is thank him from an existance worse than Hell at the end. Not even a kiss. Goombella kisses him 2 minutes after meeting him. I mean, Cheebus, Mario risks his life in countless ways in Mario 64, and she offers is a cake. A FUCKING CAKE. It's pretty clear Peach is about as asexual as they come. Frigid as a frosty.

If they are doing research, hopefully it's for a game where Mario gets thanked properly for saving the world time after time. It'd be way more interesting than the cake.

Re:well after RTFA (1)

TheBurningDog (747915) | more than 9 years ago | (#10662581)

Thats how Mario sees Princess Toadstool after consuming a few 'magic mushrooms'

Re:well after RTFA (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10662605)

Maybe the webmaster of SG should offer Nintendo a free corporate subscription to the site as a sign of good will? :)

Re:well after RTFA (1)

RyoShin (610051) | more than 9 years ago | (#10662607)

More likely than not (as other people have mentioned,) this letter was probably brought on by a spider. If you read the original C&D letter, it mentions a link pointing to Nintendo, which was not on the page in any way.

Of course, after a hard day of coding Super Mario Sunshine, I probably wouldn't mind kicking back with some lesbian goth pictures. So if it was a person, it was most likely NOT the lawyers.

Re:well after RTFA (1)

MrNemesis (587188) | more than 9 years ago | (#10662636)

"I'd like to know why Nintendo's Lawyers are looking at goth-porn."

Surely you just answered your own question...? ;)

Re:well after RTFA (1)

Hoi Polloi (522990) | more than 9 years ago | (#10662715)

Well we know that Nintendo's legal assistants had at least one hand on their keyboards so they could type the threat letter.

If I had a job that required me scanning porn sites for trademark violations I'd probably take much shorter lunches.

The Apology Letter (-1, Redundant)

bigtallmofo (695287) | more than 9 years ago | (#10662431)

Thursday, October 28, 2004 Nintendo apologizes to Suicide Girls! Nintendo sent the email below to the good people at Suicide Girls. Background here and here. Hello, We would like to apologize to you and to those who frequent the suicidegirls.com website for inadvertently contacting you about a fan posting on the website. We know that many of our fans are old enough to make their own choice about what they want to view on the Internet. We value the support of our fans and we respect their decisions. The letter was sent as part of an ongoing Nintendo program to aggressively protect our younger consumers from the hundreds of sexually-explicit sites each year that use Nintendo properties to attract children. We are proud of our efforts in this area. Unfortunately, the site posting identified in our letter was targeted by mistake. As a gesture of goodwill, we would like to offer you (and RuneLateralus) a free Nintendo video game system and game of your choice. (...) In addition, we would appreciate it if you could provide us with contact information for RuneLateralus, or have him contact us directly, so that we may apologize to him. We would be glad to send him a game and system of his choice through you as well, since we do not have his contact information. Sincerely, Christie Hamilton Nintendo of America Inc. Consumer Service Department

Re:The Apology Letter (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10662560)

"In addition, we would appreciate it if you could provide us with contact information for RuneLateralus, or have him contact us directly, so that we may apologize to him."

This makes me nervous. There might not be a boogieman behind every tree, but I bet there's an Ashcroft listening on every phoneline.

website (0, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10662439)

Thursday, October 28, 2004
Nintendo apologizes to Suicide Girls!
Nintendo sent the email below to the good people at Suicide Girls. Background here and here.

Hello,

We would like to apologize to you and to those who frequent the suicidegirls.com website for inadvertently contacting you about a fan posting on the website.

We know that many of our fans are old enough to make their own choice about what they want to view on the Internet. We value the support of our fans and we respect their decisions. The letter was sent as part of an ongoing Nintendo program to aggressively protect our younger consumers from the hundreds of sexually-explicit sites each year that use Nintendo properties to attract children. We are proud of our efforts in this area. Unfortunately, the site posting identified in our letter was targeted by mistake.

As a gesture of goodwill, we would like to offer you (and RuneLateralus) a free Nintendo video game system and game of your choice. (...)

In addition, we would appreciate it if you could provide us with contact information for RuneLateralus, or have him contact us directly, so that we may apologize to him. We would be glad to send him a game and system of his choice through you as well, since we do not have his contact information.

Sincerely,
Christie Hamilton
Nintendo of America Inc.
Consumer Service Department

Re:website (4, Funny)

spellraiser (764337) | more than 9 years ago | (#10662637)

In addition, we would appreciate it if you could provide us with contact information for RuneLateralus ...

Aha! It's all actually a part of the evil ploy! They want to know his address so they can dispatch black-clad agents to abduct him for nefarious purposes! Don't fall for it guys! Run away! Run
+++ATH
NO CARRIER

Re:website (3, Insightful)

bitslinger_42 (598584) | more than 9 years ago | (#10662671)

Granted, I am rather overtly paranoid, but did anyone else look at the last paragraph ("we would appreciate it if you could provide us with contact information for RuneLateralus") as a smooth attempt to get directly at the user without having to bother with a subpeona? I mean, come on. I'm Nintendo and I'm getting critized for attacking the website when it was an individual who posted (ignoring the context for a second here). So, I want to go after the user, but I don't know how to send the SaD letter. This looks to be a pretty cool way of getting the info without having to pay^H^H^Hcontact a judge.

/me adjusts tinfoil hat and shuffles off muttering to self

Dear Nintendo, (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10662440)

I like to dress up as a woman in public and tip custard over my head. Then I come home and play Mario 64 for 3 hours, I really need some professional psychiatric help.

Yours faithfully,

A.Nutter

Dear Nutter,

Yes you do need help. Mario 64 is crap.

Yours faithfully,

Your shrink

That letter.. (-1, Redundant)

onion2k (203094) | more than 9 years ago | (#10662451)

Hello,

We would like to apologize to you and to those who frequent the suicidegirls.com website for inadvertently contacting you about a fan posting on the website.

We know that many of our fans are old enough to make their own choice about what they want to view on the Internet. We value the support of our fans and we respect their decisions. The letter was sent as part of an ongoing Nintendo program to aggressively protect our younger consumers from the hundreds of sexually-explicit sites each year that use Nintendo properties to attract children. We are proud of our efforts in this area. Unfortunately, the site posting identified in our letter was targeted by mistake.

As a gesture of goodwill, we would like to offer you (and RuneLateralus) a free Nintendo video game system and game of your choice. (...)

In addition, we would appreciate it if you could provide us with contact information for RuneLateralus, or have him contact us directly, so that we may apologize to him. We would be glad to send him a game and system of his choice through you as well, since we do not have his contact information.

Sincerely,
Christie Hamilton
Nintendo of America Inc.
Consumer Service Department
Inadvertently threatening legal action? Oh. Whoops! Sorry! Is that the legal version of "friendly fire"?

Re:That letter.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10662599)

Nope, legal version of friendly fire is when you get your favourite suicidegirl pregnant.
.
.
.
From Behind your computer!

Makes perfect sense to me (5, Insightful)

Phixxr (794883) | more than 9 years ago | (#10662454)

I'm glad that Nintentdo is attempting to protect their trademarked property from mis-use by porn sites. Obviously they don't want you googling zelda and getting farmsex.com.

I think they've handled this in a most professional, and logical manner. Something that cannot be said for most large entertainment companies these days.

-phixxr

Re:Makes perfect sense to me (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10662554)

President Kerry will put an end to this "trademark" nonsense. This is just pure profit-motive greed. The Bush era of pro-business is over!

Re:Makes perfect sense to me (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10662565)

I'd argue that handling this professionally would have entailed checking who they were sending threatening letters to and why, and maybe deciding not to send them at all, before kicking up a storm of negative press. But what do I know?

Re:Makes perfect sense to me (2, Insightful)

Rude Turnip (49495) | more than 9 years ago | (#10662568)

Nintendo stepped way over the line and was utterly wrong. If someone mentions that X and Y are her favorite video games, that is not mis-use. I think in the end, it was a case of lawyers getting caught with their pants down in their zealotry.

Re:Makes perfect sense to me (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10662584)

As long as Bush is president we will continue to have corporations that do this kind of thing. Kerry would make corporations answer to the needs of the populace.

Re:Makes perfect sense to me (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10662603)

Sure did, but then, something I would have never expected, they ponied up and not only apologized, they even offered a system to the person who they wronged.

I'd rather they didn't make mistakes, but everyone does, and how they handled it makes them a company I'd definately do business with.

Re:Makes perfect sense to me (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10662620)

Vote Kerry & put Nintendo out of business.

Re:Makes perfect sense to me (5, Insightful)

jdreed1024 (443938) | more than 9 years ago | (#10662583)

I think they've handled this in a most professional, and logical manner. Something that cannot be said for most large entertainment companies these days.

Seriously. They didn't even blame it on an intern, or outsourcing, or anything. They didn't try to pull the "Well, we know we were right, but we're going to do you a favor and back down anyway" thing. And in offering one of their products, they're letting the person choose what they want. As opposed to the RIAA, which dumps poorly selling albums in inner-city schools and calls it good.

Re:Makes perfect sense to me (5, Insightful)

Lisandro (799651) | more than 9 years ago | (#10662592)

Just what i thought. They did something perfectly understandable, fucked up in the process, realized it *and* apologized promptly. And make up for the hassle with a game system, which you might think (or not) that it's cheap, but again, no one forced them.

Kudos to Nintendo.

Penny Arcade Comment (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10662463)

Hoochie Coochie Man

Fri, October 29 2004 - 4:30 AM
by: Tycho

I'd say it's better than even odds you've seen the story, either at VE or Slashdot. The long and short of it is that someone said they liked a couple Nintendo games in their SuicideGirls profile - and, in a parody of the reasonable universe, lawyers bared their teeth. I have a hunch we're talking about some kind of perverted spider application, an automated process with a bottomless appetite for filth, but it's funny to think tracking down meaningless infractions like this is some guy's fucking job.

I guess I should say a few things in advance of this discussion. SuicideGirls is a site where, among other things, girls take off their clothes. I'm not saying you should go there or not go there. They've asked to advertise here before, and while I don't have any great qualm with titillating media I didn't know if it was the best match for the site. It may be that my scheme for rating pornography has been damaged by the Internet, but the site is actually pretty tasteful compared to other sites I have subscribed to, many of which are filmed in barns.

Now, with the caveat out of the way, I am not without reason: I can understand why Nintendo as a corporate entity might not want their juggernaut brands associated with teen coochie. And indeed, if we were talking about photosets with explicit connections to their brands I would be less likely to ridicule them for it. I can even envision a scenario where a girl might have a Mario tattoo or something, and they might have something legitimate to say in that case, but honestly now I'm just indulging some kind of fantasy.

At this point, I don't care if it was a spider or some asshole at a terminal somewhere. When we did our Strawberry Shortcake comic, I was able to come to terms with the fact that there was an interpretation of my country's laws that prohibited what we had done. I didn't like it, but I could connect the dots and we relented. This, on the other hand, is merely stupid and evil. For better or worse, their company is built on these ancient, perennial brands that sprout up again on each new system. The reason it works is only partially because they tend to make excellent games - they deal gently with those classics, modernizing what they need, and somehow manage to retain a sense of wonder. But Nintendo's success hinges on the fact that their characters have become cultural icons - and being cultural icons means that we as gamers take an ownership in those franchises. They're a part of our language and, if you're the sort of person who reads Penny arcade, your culture.

It's not legal ownership, no - but we're heavily invested in those characters. Which I guess is a crime.

Update: Or, maybe it's not. Someone at Nintendo figured out this was stupid - BoingBoing has the letter they sent out.

(CW)TB out.

Re:Penny Arcade Comment (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10662502)

Uh, I don't think we've ever managed to slashdot Penny Arcade. But ta anyway.

It's funny 'cause it's true. (2, Funny)

Spamlent Green (461276) | more than 9 years ago | (#10662488)

That's great -- my sister-in-law actually is a trademark attorney, and once spent her days doing nothing but writing C&D letters... I immediately sent the link to the PA strip to her.

Re:It's funny 'cause it's true. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10662527)

Vote for Kerry and we can get rid of all of the trademark laws so that The People can equally own everything.

THANK GOD FOR PENNY-ARCADE! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10662490)

Actually, fuck Penny-Arcade! They suck. For real.

Re:THANK GOD FOR PENNY-ARCADE! (1)

sjwt (161428) | more than 9 years ago | (#10662529)

yerh but now they have been /.'ed .. which in its self seems odd, i would of pined there being enough /.'ers reading penny arcade to reduce the overall hit rate.

can it be true? (1)

DeusExMalex (776652) | more than 9 years ago | (#10662496)

penny-arcade + porn = ?

Re:can it be true? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10662632)

penny-arcade + porn = ?

Another friday?

turning point for Nintendo? (-1)

Ender Ryan (79406) | more than 9 years ago | (#10662498)

So will Nintendo finally pull their collective heads out their asses and start working on delivering products people want, instead of trying to stop people from actually enjoying them?

I think Nintendo needs to downsize its legal department, stop going after people with ROMs of 15 year old games, threatening people talking about current games, patenting "multiplayer console" "technology", etc., and put more energy into acquiring more developers for their absolutely kickass gaming platform, which has done only so-so in the market.

Yes, I am completely ignoring the fact that Nintendo makes an absolute killing on their Gameboy product line. I don't own or want a portable game system, so I don't care ;)

Going even more OT, I hope Nintendo's next console comes with better controllers*.

* I know I know, some people like 'em, but my medium-sized hands are way too big for the D-pad, and the extra large button gets in the way of many good control schemes.

Hmmm... It seems this comment would be more appropriate if this article were in the "Gaming" section, instead of YRO.

Re:turning point for Nintendo? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10662712)

So will Nintendo finally pull their collective heads out their asses and start working on delivering products people want, instead of trying to stop people from actually enjoying them?

Yes.

I cant say much, but Nintendo is going through some of the most dramatic changes Ive ever seen. The company is really turning itself around. While N wont be abandoning their roots (zelda, metroid, mario, fzero, etc) expect to see a new rush of more mature content, but with the quality nintendo gameplay we all love.

Wait till you see whats in store with the next console. Its phenomenal, and is going to totally blindside MS and Sony.

The letter? (4, Funny)

slimak (593319) | more than 9 years ago | (#10662507)

Does anyone else need to moderate the reposted letter? I can post it here again in case any of the many above posts have the moderation maxed out at +5. Normally I don't repost articles, but there seems to be large demand (or at least supply) for this one. Please advise.

Re:The letter? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10662674)

You should repost the letter and change one line in one paragraph to something totally unrelated... ususaly something with shock value. You then should poke fun at the mods for taking the time to notice the one line in the one paragraph. And then other trolls will follow up with their ascii art.

That's the way it's done, it's in the charter.

I see . . . . . (1, Interesting)

theparanoidcynic (705438) | more than 9 years ago | (#10662517)

I was wondering why Penny Arcade was running like crap. I figured I'd check the overnight Slashdot stories and come back later. Seeing the top story answered that question.

Oh well, time to go help /. suicidegirls . . . . .

E-mail address? (5, Funny)

Dracolytch (714699) | more than 9 years ago | (#10662521)

What, slashdotting wasn't enough, so now we're including their e-mail address so we can mailbomb them too? I mean, I know we're a secret socity trying to destroy the Internet one website at a time... But come ON! That's just EVIL.

~D

Re:E-mail address? (1)

lukewarmfusion (726141) | more than 9 years ago | (#10662754)

Secret [google.com] ? I dunno.

I hope not too late... (5, Funny)

koi88 (640490) | more than 9 years ago | (#10662553)


I hope Nintendo's apologies don't come too late.
You know, these emotionally labile personalities (suicide girls) take these things to heart...

Don't do it! Life is so beautiful!

Re:I hope not too late... (2, Funny)

HideEverFree (808079) | more than 9 years ago | (#10662719)

Do you mean "emotionally labial"? :)

Smart move Nintendo (2, Insightful)

HangingChad (677530) | more than 9 years ago | (#10662557)

Whoa, a flash of corporate intelligence. That's so unusual anymore.

It was a loser but at least give them credit for recognizing it and trying to make amends. Short term it's ugly either way, but this will limit the long term damage. There's no story now.

Good job, Nintendo. Bite the bullet, apologize, move on.

Anyone (-1, Redundant)

SilkBD (533537) | more than 9 years ago | (#10662559)

Can anyone post the letter or mirror to it? I couldn't find it the first 3 times it was posted... how about one fucking more?

how amusing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10662567)

I think it's funny that everyone now tries to use RIAA tactics for this stuff, but i think its even more funny that it totally backfired. Nintendo just advertised to 2 million plus of thier target audience they they are a bunch of sh*t heads! I guess this is the point in time where it pays to have a acronymmed name so you can lash out with impunity where people would never know that there was coalition of the evil behind it!

Enough is enough.... (2, Interesting)

Alci12 (698263) | more than 9 years ago | (#10662574)

SCO or Microsoft is one thing but /.ing hot goth chick sites..man thats just low.

SG and Nintendo (1)

Kazrath (822492) | more than 9 years ago | (#10662575)

Soon as I hit that SG site I was like "Why did I go to this site again?" MMMMMMMM Goth chicks.

Contact Info (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10662576)

Maybe I am just a little paranoid on a Friday morning but I wonder if they just want the site to give up the RuneLateralus's contact info so they can serve him directly.

WARNING NOT SAFE FOR WORK!!! (4, Insightful)

minus_273 (174041) | more than 9 years ago | (#10662589)

The nintendo apology link goes to a site that carries pornographic ads. WTF is wrong with the editors and the MORON who submitted the story! Put a warning there at least.

Re:WARNING NOT SAFE FOR WORK!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10662710)

No. The moron is the one who reads Slashdot and clicks links from articles FROM WORK !

Re:WARNING NOT SAFE FOR WORK!!! (5, Informative)

Mac_D83 (616934) | more than 9 years ago | (#10662713)

The nintendo apology link goes to a site that carries pornographic ads. WTF is wrong with the editors and the MORON who submitted the story!

That is because this whole story from beginning to end is fake. The whole of slashdot goes "WTF is wrong with Nintendo" and surf to suicidegirls or another pornographic site. This results in suicidegirls getting loads of free advertising... The whole thing is a ploy and they have done it before, just look at these:
http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/11/26/17 58210&tid=95&tid=4 [slashdot.org]
and http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/11/27/10 6259&tid=155&tid=4 [slashdot.org]

Kudos to Nintendo (4, Insightful)

akheron01 (637033) | more than 9 years ago | (#10662597)

Nintendo just exhibited some real good form there. Corporate scruples are becoming a rarity these days, glad to see they still exist.

"A Free Game System"--Includes DS? (0)

adavies42 (746183) | more than 9 years ago | (#10662616)

Maybe SG and RuneLateralus can wrangle a couple GBDS's out of this mess.

So... will Nintendo pay SuicideGirls for... (3, Funny)

dnaumov (453672) | more than 9 years ago | (#10662629)

... all the traffic this little incident has caused? SuicideGirls has now been slashdotted TWICE within a week :)

Re:So... will Nintendo pay SuicideGirls for... (3, Interesting)

Cyph (240321) | more than 9 years ago | (#10662691)

So Nintendo shold pay for all the free advertising SuicideGirls received on Slashdot this week? Did Nintendo post the Slashdot blurbs, or did Slashdot do that?

Re:So... will Nintendo pay SuicideGirls for... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10662742)

SuicideGirls has now been slashdotted TWICE within a week :)

Oddly, no new members came as a result of this.

This just in... (5, Funny)

Anita Coney (648748) | more than 9 years ago | (#10662634)

Today the State Bar Association moved to disbar Attorney Christie Hamilton for conduct unbecoming of an attorney.

A spokesman for the Bar Association was quoted as saying, "Apologize?! If lawyers start giving apologies for simply doing their jobs, our entire legal system will collapse as everyone will simply get along rather than continue pointless and expensive litigation."

Its all a trick. . . (1)

barryman_5000 (805270) | more than 9 years ago | (#10662647)

Nintendo hasn't given up in persuing them. They are asking for contact information so that they can raid their houses and still all their Nintendo merchandise! BEWARE. NINTENDO WILL HUNT YOU DOWN AND TEAR OUT YOUR SOUL.

What's that sound...? (1)

MrNemesis (587188) | more than 9 years ago | (#10662663)

It's the sound of a million /.'ers uploading their porn collections to their websites and namechecking every Nintendo franchise ever.

I can't think of a better way to get free consoles. Terabytes of pr0n is *way* better than any pyramid scheme :)

Response (5, Funny)

LittleGuy (267282) | more than 9 years ago | (#10662665)

Dear Nintendo:

This law offices represent SuicideGirls. Ever since your letter of apology, they have experience a dangerous swing of confidence and self-respect. As a result, they can no longer see themselves as 'SuicideGirls' and prefer the term 'MildlyDespondentWomen'.

We are asking for a settlement of one billion dollars for emotional non-stress, lack of pain and suffering, and character assassination.

And a pony. a Shetland Pony. /s/
Dewey, Cheetham & Howe

They've always seems sensible (2, Interesting)

miyako (632510) | more than 9 years ago | (#10662673)

Nintendo has always seemed sensible legally to me. I'm not saying they are alturistic or anything, but you just don't hear of them being evil, like one hears of Sony or Microsoft being evil.
From the letter, I can understand why they did what they did, after all, didn't zelda.com used to be (still is?) a porn site? For most kids, Nintendo is their first introduction to games, and it wouldn't be good for a kid to google for "pikachu" only to find out that some porn site had managed to come up high on the results list.
Somewhat off topic, but it seems to me that a lot of their newer games are targetting older gamers.
The recent entries to the zelda and metroid series seem to have been targetted at older players, mostly by virtue of their difficulty.

classy (5, Insightful)

minus_273 (174041) | more than 9 years ago | (#10662678)

Reading the letter, i have to say that i like nintendo more as a company. Rarely do we see anyone thesedays admint a mistake apologize and then offer a jesture of goodwill to make amends. I think it was a really classy move on the part of Nintendo. I have alwasy liked their systems and games. It is nice to see that there are some reasonable people working there. I think nintnedo handeled this really well and in the end, people will either simply forget about it or bring it up when defneding nintendo instead of the other way around.
Kudos.

Good move by Nintendo... (2, Insightful)

Goronmon (652094) | more than 9 years ago | (#10662704)

Of course, the best thing would be to avoid situations like this in general, you would think people would pay more attention to what was going on when sending out C&D letters.

But, they did the right thing and fessed up to their mistake, something companies rarely do anymore. Way to go Nintendo.

Nintendo game system of their choice? (5, Funny)

Moloch666 (574889) | more than 9 years ago | (#10662724)

Just to really throw them off, I would ask for an original Nintendo system.
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