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Internet Turns 35 Today

michael posted more than 9 years ago | from the all-downhill-from-here dept.

The Internet 244

shadowspar writes "The CBC is reporting that the Internet turned 35 today. The story talks about the less-than-prophetic beginnings of the net: 'In order to log in to the two-computer network, which was then called ARPANET, programmers at UCLA were to type in 'log', and Stanford would reply 'in'. The UCLA programmers only got as far as 'lo' before the Stanford machine crashed.'"

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First Post. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10668077)

First Post!!

Yay.

hot diggity (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10668080)

1?

Man (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10668081)

I'd swear it only looked 29!

WEISHEIT (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10668082)

ALL HEIL JON WEISHEIT

Which? (5, Funny)

datGSguy (820433) | more than 9 years ago | (#10668085)

Which Internet?

Re:Which? (1)

dn15 (735502) | more than 9 years ago | (#10668330)

all the ones with the rumors on them.

21 (5, Funny)

happyfrogcow (708359) | more than 9 years ago | (#10668087)

I think that means Al Gore was only 21 when he invented it

Re:21 (-1, Redundant)

javiercero (518708) | more than 9 years ago | (#10668348)

But how old was Bush when he came up with the other internets?

Re:21 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10668409)

For the ten billionth time, Al Gore did not say he invented the internet [snopes.com] . Although his quote was certainly clumsy, it is clear from the context that he was talking about creating a legislative environment in which the internet could grow. He was one of the first senators to talk about an "information superhighway", so in that sense, he did take an interest in the possibilities of the internet long before many of his colleagues. If you really believe that Gore thought he could claim inventorship of the internet, you are too gullible.

Before the Stanford machine crashed... (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10668092)

MS must have a time machine.

Re:Before the Stanford machine crashed... (1)

dabigpaybackski (772131) | more than 9 years ago | (#10668353)

MS must have a time machine.

Yeah, they were beta-testing on "legacy hardware."

Re:Before the Stanford machine crashed... (0, Offtopic)

daeley (126313) | more than 9 years ago | (#10668430)

Yeah, they got it when they bought Cyberdyne Systems. They got some other machines, too, but it's best not to talk about those, ah, units.

happy bday (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10668094)

thank u 4 bringing us pr0n

Re:happy bday (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10668265)

Afair one of the Polish Ministry of Education thinks the same, that the Internet is only pr0n. and AFAIR he quits, after his speech about that. And That is very sad.

Should've used Windows... (-1, Offtopic)

chrispyman (710460) | more than 9 years ago | (#10668095)

They should've been using Windows... we all know that Windows never crashes, ever.

LOLOLOLOL ur 2 funny (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10668121)

OMG you are so funny!!!! mod +++++5!!!!11!!!!

Mod Parent Down (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10668361)

Mod parent down TOTAL FAGGOT.

35 years (5, Funny)

thedogcow (694111) | more than 9 years ago | (#10668096)

and what a wonderful 35 years of porn collecting it was.

Re:35 years (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10668234)

...especially considering that the for the first 20 years the porn was entirely text-based.

Re:35 years (1)

dabigpaybackski (772131) | more than 9 years ago | (#10668395)

Yeah, and those naked ANSII pics of Bo Derek still get me hot.

I'm older than the Internet by 4 months (0, Redundant)

HasturGA (823462) | more than 9 years ago | (#10668097)

God, I feel old.

Re:I'm older than the Internet by 4 months (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10668125)

Could be worse, man... you could be older than dirt . Oh, wait, that'd make you about 35? Sorry, duder... sorry.

Re:I'm older than the Internet by 4 months (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10668411)

you are old. i bet your balls are all wrinkly too.

Re:I'm older than the Internet by 4 months (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10668450)

with grey hairs on them ...

The unfortunate side of the internet (5, Funny)

Sneftel (15416) | more than 9 years ago | (#10668098)

From the article:
Kleinrock said he predicted in 1969 that the small network would eventually expand across the globe, making a vast amount of information accessible at any time from anywhere in the world.


"The part I missed... was that my 97-year-old mother would be on the internet today," he said.

"...and man, do I ever wish those pictures hadn't gotten onto the 'net."

Re:The unfortunate side of the internet (3, Funny)

null etc. (524767) | more than 9 years ago | (#10668233)

Kleinrock said he predicted in 1969 that the small network would eventually expand across the globe, making a vast amount of information accessible at any time from anywhere in the world.
The prediction was so close!

Modified for correctness:

Kleinrock said he predicted in 1969 that the small network would eventually expand across the globe, making a vast amount of junk email accessible at any time from anywhere in the world.

35 years on (4, Funny)

BillsPetMonkey (654200) | more than 9 years ago | (#10668101)

and you can go and meet many of the original programmers, now working in home improvement stores up and down the land!

Re:35 years on (1, Funny)

RealAlaskan (576404) | more than 9 years ago | (#10668284)

... many of the original programmers [of the internet], now working in home improvement stores up and down the land!

That should encourage us all: even after 35 years of internet-enabled outsourcing, really great programmers with a portfolio of original, ground-breaking work can still find a job without moving to Asia.

Thousands of twisty websites (4, Funny)

Alien54 (180860) | more than 9 years ago | (#10668109)

all alike.

or like galaxies in the night sky, separated by vast expanses of emptines and porn

Congratulations Internet... (1)

Yaa 101 (664725) | more than 9 years ago | (#10668118)

I am logged in for 8 years now, and wished those 8 years where earlier in time.
more people != more fun on here.

Re:Congratulations Internet... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10668255)

Then what are you doing here?

What they meant to type... (4, Funny)

ajlitt (19055) | more than 9 years ago | (#10668119)

...wasn't "log". It was "lol!!1! did u get my msg??"

Re:What they meant to type... (1)

Justin205 (662116) | more than 9 years ago | (#10668157)

...wasn't "log". It was "lol!!1! did u get my msg??"
You mean AOLers were around then?

Re:What they meant to type... (0, Redundant)

networkBoy (774728) | more than 9 years ago | (#10668260)

O.k. I'm going to admint my dumbness. . .
what is up with the 'one!!1!11!' kind of crap anyway? I was just learning the proper use of WTF and OMG and other TLA's.

Whatever happened to proper hacking?

been on the net since 1989 and it's peak was in '91 -nB

It's real simple. (1)

Stephen Samuel (106962) | more than 9 years ago | (#10668415)

!!1! means that the poster had a broken 'shift' key.(and it was LOL, not LO[one])
(I think!).

Re:What they meant to type... (1)

VoidWraith (797276) | more than 9 years ago | (#10668189)

These are college teachers and students. Not 12 year olds.

Jebus Cripes, d00d (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10668243)

Are you utterly devoid of any sense of humour whatsoever?

Unbelievable...

Re:What they meant to type... (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10668297)

there's a difference?

Wow... 35.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10668122)

I've heard it's all downhill from here on out.

35? (5, Funny)

daeley (126313) | more than 9 years ago | (#10668127)

Damn, that's old. I think it's about time for the Internet to packet in.

Ahem.

Interesting.. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10668136)

"The UCLA programmers only got as far as 'lo' before the Stanford machine crashed.'"

I didn't know they even had Linux servers way back then.

Is that all you got? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10668287)

Totally lame, back to the drawing board, bucko!

10 years of solid spanking (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10668142)

I love to whack, baby!

35 ehh. Great (1)

Tracer_Bullet82 (766262) | more than 9 years ago | (#10668143)

I can't wait for it to get mid-life crises.

"no more, no more, shall I be driven by porn.God, mel gibson maybe right after all"

Re:35 ehh. Great (1)

XSforMe (446716) | more than 9 years ago | (#10668399)

Man!! The last 5 years, the thing has been having a hell of a crisis [sans.org]

Internet Years Vs. Real years (5, Interesting)

Suburbanpride (755823) | more than 9 years ago | (#10668153)

I remember on the old PBS Triumph of the Nerds documentry, they said that internet years are like dogs years, since everything changes so fast. I've been online since 1994 (mosiac and trumpet winsock), and the internet of today is very different from 10 years ago, although it still used HTTP.

I'm not even sure its safe to called the ARPANET the internet, considering how limited it was, but it will make for some interesting debate.

Re:Internet Years Vs. Real years (5, Insightful)

pixel.jonah (182967) | more than 9 years ago | (#10668178)

PLEASE Remember:

Internet > WWW

Thank you.

MOD PARENT UP! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10668416)

Like I said, mod parent up. It's a point worth making.

Sure it was (5, Insightful)

abb3w (696381) | more than 9 years ago | (#10668334)

I'm not even sure its safe to called the ARPANET the internet, considering how limited it was

FTP is quite old [faqs.org] , and was quite useful even before gopher and later http made zipping files back and forth trivial. The genius of Berners-Lee was rather like the mythical invention of the Recees Peanut Butter Cup. He figured out a way to combine a hypertext markup scheme [wikipedia.org] with internet file transfer. The individual component ideas had been lying around for at least seven years (and possibly since the dawn of ARPANET) when he put them together in a limited whole. Active scripting was a bit more clever an idea, but only marginally.

I will grant that it's a good thing TELNET is dying in favor of SSH-- security (network and computer alike) has made great progress since then. So has bandwidth. So has accessibility to the general public [catb.org] . But it's no more funamentally different in terms of power than modern desktop computers are compared to those of days of yore [computerhistory.org] .

unintended consequences (2, Insightful)

circletimessquare (444983) | more than 9 years ago | (#10668156)

It is not like the original ubergeeks sat around the U Berkeley lab setting up DARPANet in the 1960s and said "Hey! Let's invent an infinitely superior music distribution model that no one can make money off of!"

But that is exactly what they did.

**cough**I-tunes**cough (3, Funny)

Tracer_Bullet82 (766262) | more than 9 years ago | (#10668186)

I would have modded you troll, if I had mod points.

Re:unintended consequences (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10668306)

your music probably sucks ass anyway, dude.

a graph of internet growth? (2, Interesting)

opencity (582224) | more than 9 years ago | (#10668161)

How did the internet grow in the early days? A bar chart of connectivity by year would be interesting.

Re:a graph of internet growth? (4, Informative)

aacool (700143) | more than 9 years ago | (#10668262)

THe growth of the Internet is http://www.icdri.org/technology/indexbp.htm#d1 [icdri.org] here

Other useful charts are at http://navigators.com/stats.html [navigators.com]

A map of global internet connectivity is http://navigators.com/globe16b.gif [navigators.com] here

The real question is - where does the Internet go from here?

Re:a graph of internet growth? (1)

hackstraw (262471) | more than 9 years ago | (#10668354)

The real question is - where does the Internet go from here?

duh [1112.net]

Re:a graph of internet growth? (1)

Cygnus78 (628037) | more than 9 years ago | (#10668443)

THe growth of the Internet is http://www.icdri.org/technology/indexbp.htm#d1 here Other useful charts are at http://navigators.com/stats.html A map of global internet connectivity is http://navigators.com/globe16b.gifhere

The conenctivity map is from 1997 and the other info is quite old as well. Any newer internet statistics somewhere ?

Re:a graph of internet growth? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10668460)

Who do we talk to to get Nigeria to turn yellow on that map?

Re:a graph of internet growth? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10668317)

Google is your friend [google.com]

Dumbass...

Weird..... (3, Funny)

dickeya (733264) | more than 9 years ago | (#10668162)

my girlfriend just turned 35 also. Hmmmmmm, I've never seen them in a picture together.................

Re:Weird..... (1)

russint (793669) | more than 9 years ago | (#10668217)

For gods sake, hold on to her! :)

So the Internet Can Understand It (1, Funny)

ThePDW (764788) | more than 9 years ago | (#10668170)

01001000 01100001 01110000 01110000 01111001 00100000 01000010 01101001 01110010 01110100 01101000 01100100 01100001 01111001 00100001

Happy birthday! (1)

yonatanh (815045) | more than 9 years ago | (#10668172)

Happy birthday, internet. Any special birthday sales or clearances?

"less-than-prophetic"? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10668174)

What the fuck? Did you mean "less-than-auspicious" maybe?

hey! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10668176)

echo happy birthday > inter.net

Re:hey! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10668325)

Too bad it wasn't born on Christmas:
nmap -sX 255.255.255.255

Blogging the event... (1)

koganuts (526569) | more than 9 years ago | (#10668177)

I suppose it's fitting that there's at least one blogging who's blogging the event here [seanbonner.com] .

Stop and think... (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10668179)

If you werent using the internet, what would you actually do on your computer? Here's to another 35 years "learning experiences".

Hmm..I think a more significant question is.. (2, Interesting)

Tracer_Bullet82 (766262) | more than 9 years ago | (#10668308)

without Internet, will computer adaptation be as widespread as it is?

But personally, i'd be killing some worms or killing some kittens, if you get my drift.

Re:Stop and think... (1)

0racle (667029) | more than 9 years ago | (#10668328)

Same things I did on it before I was connected to the internet.

So... (5, Funny)

Ryan Stortz (598060) | more than 9 years ago | (#10668200)

So....does this mean that after they tried again, the first 3 letters the grace the internet were lol.

(Lo [crash] Log)

It's a scary thought....

Re:So... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10668403)

ok, now THAT'S funny!

Unlike some of the other dumbasses above...

Famous internet prediction by me in 1994 (4, Funny)

Ars-Fartsica (166957) | more than 9 years ago | (#10668203)

In a 4th year networking class paper:

"The Web will likely be a novelty while serious research will remain on Gopher."

Re:Famous internet prediction by me in 1994 (1)

pipingguy (566974) | more than 9 years ago | (#10668396)


I didn't see this on Compuserve in 1993, so it is false. Faker! :}

AOL (3, Insightful)

frankmu (68782) | more than 9 years ago | (#10668208)

I thought AOL (internet) was alot younger than that.

it's amazing that their current ad campaign makes AOL=Internet

So Al Gore (3, Funny)

kensai (139597) | more than 9 years ago | (#10668215)

was only like 10 when he invented the Internet. The man's a freakin genius ;)

H4PPY B1R7HD4Y (2, Funny)

Satertek (708058) | more than 9 years ago | (#10668220)

H4PPY B1R7HD4Y 1N73RN37

thanks alot for l33t speak...

Happy birthday! (1)

l0b0 (803611) | more than 9 years ago | (#10668225)

And if my 1337 seer skillz are to be trusted, the next 35 will be at least as informative [wikipedia.org] , funny [userfriendly.org] , cooperative [lhcathome.cern.ch] , and interesting [slashdot.org] .

Am I the only one? (1)

seepuppetz (815775) | more than 9 years ago | (#10668230)

Who does not watch porn?... At least not on a consitent basis... at least not on the hour... dammit thank you Internet.

1968 (4, Informative)

Trurl's Machine (651488) | more than 9 years ago | (#10668244)

1968 was an important year in world history, no doubt about it. In 1998, there was a wave of documentaries, books and essays about that year. The authors focused on yippies [colorado.edu] trashing democratic convention in Chicago, Warsaw Pact invading Czechoslovakia [globalsecurity.org] , student uprising in Paris [utoronto.ca] , Mexico massacre [worldpress.org] , flower-power, maoism, Vietnam war, Beatles recording white album or Che Guevara in Bolivia.

Almost nobody noticed that 1968 was also the year when Noyce an Moore founded Intel [computerhope.com] , Douglas Engelbart demoed [stanford.edu] for the fist time GUI, mouse and word processing, UCLA and Stanford started to build their networking connection. Even today, scholars seem not to notice the relevance of these facts.

Fir5t' post (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10668250)

started work on dim. If *BSD is of FrreBSD Usenet Deve7opment models

Wow... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10668253)

I'm born on the same day as the internet. Interestingly, we seem to share an affinity for porn.
Article == Best... horoscope... ever!

Happy b-day... (2, Funny)

Lisandro (799651) | more than 9 years ago | (#10668264)

...and thanks for all the porn! (drops a tear)

Didn't this already happen? (2, Informative)

flycrg (801803) | more than 9 years ago | (#10668281)

I seem to remember that the internet apparently already turned 35. Well heres the link to the slashdot post about it. So who's right, CNN or CBC? http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/08/29/225625 9&tid=95&tid=1 [slashdot.org]

Re:Didn't this already happen? (1)

flycrg (801803) | more than 9 years ago | (#10668326)

and after posting this I just wondered, is it possible to slashdot slshdot but putting their link on slashdot? My head now hurts.

Very prophetic actually (2, Funny)

simon_clarkstone (750637) | more than 9 years ago | (#10668282)

the less-than-prophetic beginnings of the net: ... The UCLA programmers only got as far as 'lo' before the Stanford machine crashed.
Oh, no. The idea of a machine crashing instead of serving up the requested data is totally alien to the modern Slashdot reader!

What a prodigy! (-1, Redundant)

Bill_Royle (639563) | more than 9 years ago | (#10668291)

And to think Al Gore was only 21 when he invented it!

happy birthday (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10668300)

happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you, you smell like the zoo, you look like a monkey, and you smell like one too :^P

Who knew... (1)

syn3rg (530741) | more than 9 years ago | (#10668310)

...the slashdot effect was that old?

35? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10668312)

They had computers 35 years ago??? Was that AOL v1.1 then?

sooo (0, Flamebait)

ozzmosis (99513) | more than 9 years ago | (#10668329)

Al gore was 21 when he invented the internet?

Cane-Walking (2, Funny)

pipingguy (566974) | more than 9 years ago | (#10668340)


Dammit, I'm older than it is. Mumble ..kids...MP3...cell phones...aaargh!

So that's why... (4, Funny)

The-Bus (138060) | more than 9 years ago | (#10668374)

No wonder. I was heading to lunch today and I drove past Matt Sauper's Chevrolet, and there was the Internet with that new blonde girlfriend of it. I hear she's only in college. As I was parking at the sandwich place, there they went, speeding by me. The Internet apparently bought a solid gold Corvette convertible. At least I thought it was him: the license plate said HTTPIMP.

Re:So that's why... (1)

wankledot (712148) | more than 9 years ago | (#10668414)

"At least I thought it was him: the license plate said HTTPIMP."

That's brilliant. If I was a bigtime web admin person, I would TOTALLY get that plate.

log + in crashed the network? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10668408)

64 bits should have been enough for anyone.

Haven't we been through this before? (1)

Ynazar1 (750163) | more than 9 years ago | (#10668424)

Internet at 35 [slashdot.org]

Deja Vu (1)

DarkBlackFox (643814) | more than 9 years ago | (#10668428)

Didn't the internet turn 35 a few months ago? [slashdot.org]

Re:Deja Vu (1)

Jonny Ringo (444580) | more than 9 years ago | (#10668477)

Yeah, that's the other internet people were talking about earlier.

Story summary sounds fake... (1)

cheekyboy (598084) | more than 9 years ago | (#10668431)

I mean seriously, even those days, some common sense log-ic could have made a better system, so either they took too much LSD or are lieing their asses off coz they just cant remember or it was utterly boringly simple.

crashing after "lo" , what they stored the IO buffer in a *pointer, that pointed 0x0 by accident overiding offset 0x0000002 ??

Even 15 yo programmers did better in 1984 on C-64 :)s

A great book on this topic (2, Informative)

patjenk (780006) | more than 9 years ago | (#10668446)

Katie Hafner wrote a great book entitled "Where Wizards Stay Up Late" thats all about the creation of the arpanet. It is more focused on the work that was going on in Boston and I believe MIT at the time than the specific stanford happenings but has a ton of information on both. This is a very interesting read. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0684 832674/qid=1099089921/sr=8-1/ref=pd_csp_1/102-7568 317-3623330?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

Now tell Joe Beer this. (4, Insightful)

JessLeah (625838) | more than 9 years ago | (#10668475)

Joe Beer thinks "the Internet" is around ten years old, since that's when he first heard of it. Smarter Joe-Beers would point to the date of the invention of the Web (not "the Internet" as a whole) and say "See? The Internet was invented by Tim Berners-Lee in 199x... I read it on such-and-such"...

[cue OT rant]

Most bozos nowadays can't distinguish between:

* "The Internet" and "The Web"
* "PC" and "Windows"
* "Microsoft" and "Windows"
* "Macintosh" and "the Mac OS" (or "Mac OS X")
* "Apple" and "Macintosh"


Thus, you will hear things like "Yeah, I'm on the Web" (translation: "I have a connection to the Internet"), or "Are you running Windows or Mac?" (translation: "Windows or Mac OS X"), or "This game is only available for the PC" (read: "...for Windows").

However, these same functional computer illiterates (read: 99% of the US population) manage to think that "Linux", "Unix", "Red Hat" and "Solaris" (to give four examples) are completely different skillsets (talk to any typical "tech recruiter" and you'll see what I mean. I've met guys who have twenty years of experience in half a dozen commercial Unices, but can't get a job dealing with the one major flavor they've never touched... 'cuz as we all know, they don't all share 99% of the same stuff.... Oh, wait, they do...)
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