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Monitoring the U.S. Elections Online?

Cliff posted more than 9 years ago | from the tallying-up-those-electoral-votes dept.

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shahman wonders: "I'll be on the road all day this election day, so the only access I'll have is through my PDA/Phone. I was wondering if any Slashdot readers know of WAP-enabled services or low-bandwidth sites that are providing (semi) real-time election coverage?" Nobbin has a similar, but less bandwidth-restrictive question: "I was wondering where I could find live results for the coming U.S. election, online. I live in Australia so I can't get them through watching CNN and so forth. I'm looking for something similar to the Austalian Electoral Commission's virtual tally room. So far, Google hasn't turned up much."

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try CNN (4, Informative)

Frisky070802 (591229) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696340)

CNN has a tally room [cnn.com] , which I think is what Nobbin is getting at.

Re:try CNN (3, Informative)

Tony Hoyle (11698) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696382)

Try
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/result s/pre sident/

The other link needs registration.

Re:try CNN (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10696398)

If you live in Australia, I do recall Channel 7 saying they would show it live - starting from 11am EDT on Wednesday.

Everybody and their dog (1)

unbiasedbystander (660703) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696341)

...is monitoring our elections. Damn conspiracy theorists...

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Wikipedia has results & an index (5, Informative)

ke4roh (590577) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696345)

Wikipedia's article U.S. presidential election, 2004 [wikipedia.org] answers the higher bandwidth question quite thoroughly - with results (updated frequently [wikipedia.org] ) and links to a host of sites that will report the results as they come in. Don't expect much before 23:00 GMT since that's when the first of the polls close.

Re:Wikipedia has results & an index (0, Troll)

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Re:Fristage Postage Biatch (1)

i_hate_exnihilo (799826) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696369)

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mod parent troll, funny (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10696466)

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Try (3, Informative)

awaspaas (663879) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696350)

http://www.pollstats.com

mod parent down (-1, Troll)

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Does this exist? (3, Interesting)

l810c (551591) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696352)

Where can find detailed information about all candidates down to the county level? Positions on issues, voting record, etc. would be great. I know the positions of all of the National and most of the State candidates. I do not have a party affiliation and usually vote for the candidate whose platform most closely resembles mine.

I live outside Atlanta. The Atlanta Paper [ajc.com] (Get login from bugmenot.com) has Great information about all of the candidates in the 'Metro' Atlanta area. I'm 2 houses away from that area in Newton County, GA. My cable providor is from an adjacent county, so I haven't been able to see any ads about the ones in my county. The local paper [newtoncitizen.net] is useless.

Not EXACTLY what you're looking for... (5, Informative)

thecampbeln (457432) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696427)

... but the League of Women Voters have a very good site called SmartVoter.org [smartvoter.org] which gives you analysis on each measure/prop. They have some VERY limited information on the candidates, but they do link to more info. The info is broken all the way down to your local ballot.

Re:Does this exist? (2, Informative)

ke4roh (590577) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696467)

You might be able to find something on your county board of elections web site or your secretary of state web site [state.ga.us] . (Newton doesn't have much on the web, except this: "Election results from the November 2, 2004, general election in Newton County will be projected in the comissioners' board room in the historic courthouse beginning at approximately 9:00 P.M. on November 2, 2004." But the web site does show a pet of the week [newton.ga.us] , a goat.)

a few ideas (5, Informative)

squarefish (561836) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696354)

air america radio [airamericaradio.com] will have special coverage and with their 30-something stations and the live stream, you should be able to get some good out of them.

also, http://www.electoral-vote.com/ [electoral-vote.com] is going to have ongoing coverage all night also.

of course all the usual suspects like cnn [cnn.com] and the other general papers and new sources should have pretty up to date info as well.

Wait for Diebold to tell you. (4, Funny)

jthayden (811997) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696356)

Don't worry, Diebold has already decided who won, they'll let you know.

Re:Wait for Diebold to tell you. (4, Funny)

topher1kenobe (2041) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696558)

Their main offices are in the same hanger they filmed the lunar landings and the Super Bowl in, right?

Re:Wait for Diebold to tell you. (1)

PureCreditor (300490) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696604)

Diebold has only precided who will win Ohio (ref : Diebold CEO), but that's only 20 dinky votes =)

Nothing to see here. Move along... (3, Insightful)

general_re (8883) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696370)

Seriously, nobody's going to be doing any exit-poll results until the polls start closing, which won't be till around 7 pm in the East at the earliest. All you'll get is the usual "we're standing outside a polling place in Bumfuck, Iowa, and the mood of the people is restive/festive/destructive/cheerful/whatever" during the day, so drive carefully, keep your eyes on the road, your hands on the wheel, and watch the news when you get home in the evening....

Re:Nothing to see here. Move along... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10696425)

As a resident of Bumfuck, Iowa I'd like to invite you inside and have a cup of coffee. How about that weather? Jim and I are just finishing up the corn harvest and boy-howdy, she's been a right regular year...

Re:Nothing to see here. Move along... (1)

general_re (8883) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696555)

As a resident of Bumfuck, Iowa...

Substitute Idaho, New York, Kansas, California, Utah, et cetera, as you see fit ;)

Re:Nothing to see here. Move along... (1, Informative)

idiotnot (302133) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696454)

Matt Drudge [drudgereport.com] said he will run exit-polilng data through the day. He did during the 2002 election. The major networks agreed to stop doing this after the 2000 problems.

Re:Nothing to see here. Move along... (2, Informative)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696517)

The networks never broadcasted exit polling data before the polls in any given area were closed... that started well before the 2000 debacle.

Re:Nothing to see here. Move along... (1)

idiotnot (302133) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696636)

They didn't do it in 2000, when four networks called Florida for Gore before the polls were closed state-wide.

Re:Nothing to see here. Move along... (1)

general_re (8883) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696529)

Drudge is an ass - not that he listens to anyone other than his own giant ego, but whatever. I doubt Drudge has the resources to commission a real nationwide exit poll for himself, so if he does, it'll be because someone at one of the networks is leaking it to him.

Re:Nothing to see here. Move along... (1)

shoemaker251 (816362) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696556)

I'm from Bumfuck Iowa, you insensitive clod!

Re:Nothing to see here. Move along... (1)

general_re (8883) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696579)

East Bumfuck or West Bumfuck?

It's always fun to contribute to a thread I won't be able to read at work tomorrow, because it won't get past the bad-word filter on the boss's proxy server ;)

Re:Nothing to see here. Move along... (1)

aacool (700143) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696567)

Larry King Tonight said that exit polls would start about 1 PM - most reliable information will materialize after 6 PM - stay tuned to the blogosphere - instapundit.com, drudgereport.com, blog.johnkerry.com, www.georgewbush.com/blog

CNN to Go (5, Informative)

kngthdn (820601) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696372)

I suggest mobile.cnn.com [cnn.com] , if you can get it on your phone. On my phone (AT&T wireless), it has a bunch of pages like "Top Stories", "Full Results", "The Candidates", and "What's at Stake"

Since I'll be volunteering up until the polls close, I suppose I'll be using it a lot...

(after that, it's fox news all the way...I like my news the way I wanna hear it!)

Re:CNN to Go (1)

tantalic (194548) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696547)

"(after that, it's fox news all the way...I like my news the way I wanna hear it!)"

I wonder what party you are volunteering for! Sure hope you're not a volunteer at the polls...next thing you know we'll find out you produce electronic voting machines with no paper trail.

Re:CNN to Go (1)

kngthdn (820601) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696584)

We don't have polls here. It's all vote-by-mail.

There's this tech called Amplitude Modulation... (4, Insightful)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696384)

US election data doesn't compress into simple numbers very easily. I'd recommend those traveling use either a car-mounted or handheld radio... using the radio in AM mode would be highly recommended in most areas because news format stations are typically found there, although there are a few FM news/talk stations in existance.

First off. Expect to know nothing useful until polls close. It's US media tradition not to release exit poll data or make winner projections until the polls in any given state are closed under the theory that early victory news might discurage turnout and affect the outcome. Therefore, don't bother looking for results during the daytime. Nobody's going to be projecting a winner until well into primetime. The only major site that might break this tradition is The Drudge Report [drudgereport.com] , but its unknown what kind of info Drudge will get.

Then there's the complexity of the Electoral College system. Really, there isn't one election happening tomorrow, there's fifty state elections plus one more for D.C. over which slate of electors to send forward. Having a running total of the national popular vote is not useful data because that's data that doesn't lead to anything.

Further complexing things is that there's also hundreds of Congressional races tomorrow because every seat in the House of Representatives and one-third of the Senate come up for re-election as they do every two years. The control of the majority of both of those bodies will be in play tomorrow as well. And let's not forget that many states have ballot question issues and local offices in play as well.

So... when you add it all up there's over 500 seperate races of national importance to consider tomorrow. No small text screen can do it justice... use radio and TV and let them explain it one by one. Sit back, and relax... the pundits will be on all night because there's going to be a lot for them to talk about.

small minority of Congress seriously contested (2, Funny)

davidwr (791652) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696430)

Only a few of the 33 Senate seats and no more than a few dozen of the House seats up for grabs are seriously contested. The winners of the rest are a foregone conclusion - not even Diebold can change that.

Handicappers are calling the Senate as 50-54 Republicans, with the rest Democrats or Independents. They are handicapping the House as likely to remain in Republican control.

Re:small minority of Congress seriously contested (2, Funny)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696441)

Handicappers are calling the Senate as 50-54 Republicans

I'll take the under on there being 104 Senators at the end of the night. :)

Re:There's this tech called Amplitude Modulation.. (1)

djupedal (584558) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696583)

using the radio in AM mode would be highly recommended in most areas

Read the opener...this guy is in Australia. The only thing on the AM band there is static.

Re:There's this tech called Amplitude Modulation.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10696613)

It's US media tradition not to release exit poll data or make winner projections until the polls in any given state are closed

... Unless the given state spans time zones, and is projected to have a Democrat winner, such as Gore in Florida in 2000 [newsmax.com] ...

Re:There's this tech called Amplitude Modulation.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10696652)

I'm a Yank, and happened to be in Sydney, NSW, on Election Day, 2000. I distinctly remember watching some of the election return coverage on CNBC on a big screen TV in the Queen Victoria Exposition Centre (or something like that) downtown. Rather fascinating knowing that we were 16 hours ahead of the US East Coast (i.e., it was 4PM local time at Midnight EST !) and the networks had flip-flopped on Florida and a couple of other contests at that point.

It was even wierder leaving about 24 hours later and flying home to Boston (with what turned out to be a kidney stone - what fun, NOT!) which took about 21 hours with a change of planes in LA, and STILL not knowing for sure who'd won the election.

So, my advice would be to kick back, grab a Crown Lager or a Toohey's (or two) and some chips or whatever, and watch it on TV, because it's going to be a LONG process. Yes, the CNBC feed in the Pacific Rim, including Oz, will very likely be feeding much of what we'll be seeing on plain NBC back here. And enjoy the Crown Lager - I wish I could get it in the USA. (Sorry, but Foster's tastes like roo piss by comparison, and it's brewed in Toronto, Ontario under license/licence).

Depends on what you mean by "real time" (1)

DeepFried (644194) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696387)

AFAIK The news media is not supposed to project states until the the polls close in each state as to not deter late in hte day voters..You wont get any real time breakdowns until after 8pm eastern. I could be wrong.

Re:Depends on what you mean by "real time" (1)

Orne (144925) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696653)

I just read this in an article online:

"After congressional investigations in 1985 into complaints about early broadcast calls discouraging voters on the West Coast, network executives promised not to broadcast exit poll numbers on any state until the polls in that state (California) closed.""

Absentee Ballots (1)

Chrontius (654879) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696389)

Another thing worth bearing in mind is the fact that absentee ballots and the like won't be counted until the tuesday votes are done.

With the country is as divided as it is now, these will probably be what decides the election.

Monitoring is not the same as influencing... (5, Insightful)

NotQuiteReal (608241) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696391)

Just look in a paper, on Wednesday.

This same technique of delayed gratification has served me well for lots of things.

The resultes don't change by knowing them sooner.

Re:Monitoring is not the same as influencing... (1)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696415)

Are you sure Wednesday's newspaper will have the winner? It didn't the last go around...

Re:Monitoring is not the same as influencing... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10696492)

Actually, I think it did.

Then the sore loser tried a bunch of shenanigans for a bit and muddled things up before it was finally settled.

Re:Monitoring is not the same as influencing... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10696693)

Yeah, settled in his favor by an activist court.

Re:Monitoring is not the same as influencing... (1)

AngryUndead (733008) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696682)

Well I hope the people in Fla have learned how to use the machines. Actually, if they're gonna vote for Kerry then I don't hope that...

On an unrelated note, tomorrow is my first time voting so I hope I don't make a tard of myself and that I can use the machines.

Re:Monitoring is not the same as influencing... (5, Funny)

yuriismaster (776296) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696489)

But what if no one looked the results... ever? Will Bush be president, will kerry, or will the executive branch be caught in a quantum transitory state?

Re:Monitoring is not the same as influencing... (1)

NotQuiteReal (608241) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696574)

Heh, Schrodinger's election?

He was not even a US citizen, and he is dead - two democratic votes, right there! lol.

Re:Monitoring is not the same as influencing... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10696520)

I'm just guessing, but you're not a sports fan either.

Re:Monitoring is not the same as influencing... (1)

NotQuiteReal (608241) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696552)

Nope.

I only watch the 7th game of the World Series, when I think about it.

I missed it this year.

Re:Monitoring is not the same as influencing... (1)

nwbvt (768631) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696568)

Thats like asking a kid to wait until Christmas to know what presents he got. Even if he can't open them before hand, he will try staring at them and shaking them in order to guess what he got.

Re:Monitoring is not the same as influencing... (4, Funny)

dead sun (104217) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696602)

He's planning on rioting if the candidate he supports isn't elected in an undisputed manner tomorrow. If he doesn't have up to the minute results he may miss out on knowing when to begin. If he doesn't know when to start rioting he'll miss out on all the good looting going on.

Seriously, do you have any idea how fast the good stuff gets looted?

Why? (4, Insightful)

shawn(at)fsu (447153) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696393)

Why does real time monitoring matter, I mean look at the last presidential election. I think all this polling and up to the second exit polls are only adding to the problem. In the grand scheme(sp?) does it affect you if you know today or three days from now who the president will be. Look at the days before internet before tv, before radio, before wire service when information took days to get across country. The world still worked. Life will go on. Besides I doubt there will be a conclusive answer for weeks.

Re:Why? (5, Insightful)

marktaw.com (816752) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696692)

Because the elections are a spectator sport just like the World Series.

It's just not the same without knowing in real time with commentary and slow motion replays.

OT: Earliest online election totals? (2)

davidwr (791652) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696397)

I know the '92 US Presidential election returns were available online in near-real-time.

If memory serves, someone did this in '88 also, using a simple "dump results and disconnect" server that you could telnet to. Anyone else remember an '88 online election return?

How about '84? '80? '76? '72?

We didn't have the 'net before '69, but anyone remember if any computing centers had running totals for their users in the '70s or before?

Re:OT: Earliest online election totals? (1)

Micah (278) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696523)

I don't remember too many details, except that the successor to the ENIAC (forget name now) helped CBS (I think) predict the winner in 1952. Anyone remember more?

Re:OT: Earliest online election totals? (1)

rusty0101 (565565) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696700)

Specific details such as what the computer name was? No.

There were some minor "glitches" with the computer however. For some time during the evening, or overnight, they refused to report the predictions the computer was generating as the results were very different from the telephone poll results that had been being performed up to the election.

It turns out that a vast segment of the population who did not have phones were a part of the public that tended to vote in a way different from the segment of the population with phones. And they did vote that year.

Since CBS was unsure which was correct, and the discrepency was as great as it was, as early as the computer was making it's prediction, they witheld the results until later in the evening when even more of the results were known.

A slight parallel has been pointed out a few times this election, noting that there are a significant number of voters who have cell phones which are not available to pollers. How significant the variation will be is somewhat up in the air. I think that it might be ballanced by the number of people with Caller-ID who refuse to accept calls from people they don't know or recognize. Who this might benifit, I don't know, and won't predict.

-Rusty

Are you serious? (5, Insightful)

bscott (460706) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696410)

I personally wish I could just crawl into a cave and leaving a wake-up call for inaguration day. I can't IMAGINE wanting to keep up with the minute-by-minute details of what'll doubtless be only the beginning of a weeks-long debacle. Put it another way - do you really need to go out of your way to get "information" of questionable relevance a few seconds before you would anyway? It's the Presidential election, you'd have to be pretty careful NOT to find out about anything really significant.

Relax. Get a book-on-tape of something you've always wanted to read for your journey. Use the time wisely instead of suckling at the mass-media tit because they've told you that you MUST be INFORMED every MINUTE of the DAY, by US!

Simple (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10696411)

If you see the terrorists celebrating, Kerry has won.

I don't want to hear a word of it until it is over (1)

SnprBoB86 (576143) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696426)

Voting is not a spectator sport. I do not want to know who wins until they win. Somehow watching our country fall to peices isn't that enthralling.

That, and I fear I will grow dumber by being on the same coast as Florida...

Re:I don't want to hear a word of it until it is o (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10696669)

Tell me about it, it's hard to believe that 42% of the population is stupid enough to vote for Kerry...

i know this is simple, but.. (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10696443)

Couldn't you just listen to the radio?

in a few monthes, the full results: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10696446)

http://www.house.gov/

AP is the offical results vendor (1)

amarcuss (655713) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696450)

The Associated Press [ap.org] will be the offical vote tallier according to an AP report [salon.com] . I wouldn't look for complete predictions before the West coast polls close after 2000's problems.

http://www.democraticaction.org/results/ (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10696453)

http://www.democraticaction.org/results/

australia (1)

dns_server (696283) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696468)

in australia in our receent elections we had a live tally room http://vtr.aec.gov.au/ [aec.gov.au] . i spent a little bit of time watching the results as they where counted.

cpsan (1)

10sball (80009) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696469)

CPSAN's 2004 Vote site [c-span.org]

Also have live feeds of CSPAN 1-4 in real or windows media linked from the homepage

Go lotech (1)

RealProgrammer (723725) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696476)

Find a hotel lobby. They always have the talking-head news on.

For $5 or less at "the dollar store" you can usually find a nice AM/FM radio. For $20 you can usually find one with a suitable geek factor.

Find a bar, and threaten to bust up the joint unless they show the election returns.

real time monitoring (4, Funny)

bcrowell (177657) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696478)

For real-time monitoring of the election results, read the morning paper every day. Repeat until mid-December.

SMS (5, Funny)

cuteseal (794590) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696482)

To make sure your favourite idol returns next year, SMS "BUSH" or "KERRY" to "IDOLS04". Voting lines open at the end of tonight's show.

More coming up... after the break.

There is no US election (1, Informative)

Saint Stephen (19450) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696483)

This is the United States.
We have 50 separate state elections.

Look into it.

Re:There is no US election (1)

Wyatt Earp (1029) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696614)

And the DC.

Varies from State to State (1)

idiotnot (302133) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696498)

Many, many, states have websites that'll give totals as they roll in. Here's the page for Virginia [vipnet.org] .

Still, the best way is to start watching the returns as the polls close. I think the earliest closings are 6p EST. I think we'll probably have a good idea of the winner by 11p EST. If Kerry doesn't take Ohio and Florida, I don't think he'll be able to make it up in the Mountain states and the west.

Election Security Concerns (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10696500)

I've worked as a consultant with a firm certifying the security and accuracy of voting in several hotly contested states. It is my concern that Diebold machines have made their way into wide use and the results of this election cannot be trusted. Our analysis of Diebold machines showed numerous difficulties and vulnerabilities allowing tampering, multiple voting, and deletion or modification of existing votes. Nearly every vulnerability was due to the use of Linux in Diebold machines, our study determined. My firm has recommended use of voting machines using a more secure operating system such as Microsoft Windows XP in future elections to prevent voting fraud.

Almost anywhere (1)

ArcticCelt (660351) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696509)

My feeling is that tomorrow you will be able to go to a random web site anywhere in the world and you will find information about the election.

As a Canadian I can tell you that this is the first time that I see people who seems to care more about an American election than about our own last one. I think many people around the world feel the same. So information will be available anywhere.

Shouting from parking lot (1)

Un pobre guey (593801) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696519)

I don't know about WAP, but I will probably be stepping outside periodically to wail and rend my garments. You'll probably be able to hear it throughout Silicon Valley.

But... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10696521)

Y'all can't wait until Wed. morning?

That would probably make the biggest impact on US federal elections. Prohibit results from being broadcast by the govment until the next day.

Censorship? Phah. I think by definition the government can't be accused of censoring itself.

If there ever was an amendment to the constitution that makes sense, it would be doing this.

Don't prohibit the press from trying to report the preliminary results during the day, just prohibit the govment voting bodies from doing so or remove that jurisdiction from the federal and supreme courts.

We can all wait until the morning to spew our coffee and donuts all over the front page, TV screen or computer keyboard on Wed. morning.

Besides, whatever the results are, they will be contested in courts for the next month and a half (we all ready know that the SCOTUS has set a precident for itself to essentially not stop the Electoral College election from happening, no matter what. It would have to take something extremely unconstitutional for them to do so again).

America. Home of the Free, land of the poor losers.

Avoiding The US Election Online? (1)

John Hasler (414242) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696533)

I work at home and don't have a TV. I will turn the radio off, of course, but that may not be enough. I know I must avoid the news sites, but will it be safe to visit Slashdot?

Sad (1)

Erwos (553607) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696536)

Sad to say it, but the election ain't gonna be over until the courts rule on it. There are a lot of people on both sides of the aisle with lawyer-attack-dogs ready to start filing lawsuits no matter what happens. A good example of this is http://www.nov3.us. I get the strong impression that they're going to be causing a ruckus if Bush comes out with a win regardless of whether it was fair or not. Certainly, I'm sure the Republicans are also ready for a legal fight if Kerry wins.

I really appreciate your interest in our great representative democracy, but this election is going to be an embarassment to our great nation even if there isn't fraud. Rest assured that I enjoy following other nations' elections when I can, at least in a general sense (I can't really get worked up over who's going to be the mayor of Hamburg, sorry).

Someday, someone will teach politicians to lose gracefully. Alas, someday is not tomorrow.

-Erwos

good rss lean content (1)

topher1kenobe (2041) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696539)

I'll be having some good coverage at wcsg.org [wcsg.org] in the evening. Our news dept will be on top of it. I'll have rss feeds etc.

While I can't say definitively... (2, Informative)

rindeee (530084) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696541)

...I would be quite comfortable hazzarding a guess that Yahoo will have real time coverage (including Yahoo! Mobile which should work fine on any PDA/Phone). Given the very impressive real time World Series coverage they had, surely they'll do at least as much during the election. Here's a link that should prove valuable:

http://dir.yahoo.com/government/u_s__government/po litics/elections/presidential_elections/2004_presi dential_election/ [yahoo.com]

Hope this helps.

Megapundit.com (2, Informative)

FatRatBastard (7583) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696549)

Don't run the site, but ran across this [megapundit.com] tonight (via Wizbang). Its being run by a blogger, so how quickly things get updated I have no idea, but it looks pretty promising.

Cell phone (1)

Gyorg_Lavode (520114) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696554)

My cell phone already has 2 catagories in the news headlines page that tell the number of electorial votes for each candidate.

Very simple, actually... (1)

djupedal (584558) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696559)

Depending on who wins, the power will either stay up to support your connection, or all of the US will go dark...very, very dark. Just monitor the skyline out the window of your hotel.

Best hope that Kerry wins so the mail will continue to go thru... God knows the coasts have been unguarded for so long it makes little sense now to pay them heed.

Electoral-vote.com (2, Informative)

Tedger (775013) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696561)

http://electoral-vote.com/ is planning on providing semi-real time coverage online. The side is almost completely text (on the main page anyways) and only has the one image of the electoral vote prediction (which I imagine will be zeroed tomorrow morning). If the server goes down there are 5 mirrors (httpL://www.electoral-vote2.com/, ...., http://www.electoral-vote6.com/)

Try this: (1)

rritterson (588983) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696585)

as mentioned in an earlier /. article today: electoral-vote.com [electoral-vote.com]

In today's news he says he is going to be updating the site in realtime tomorrow. (If the link is down, add a 2, 3, 4, etc to the end of the domain name for mirrors)

www.electoral-vote.com (2, Informative)

call -151 (230520) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696597)

Try electoral-vote.com [electoral-vote.com] . The maintainer does a great job following current polls state-by-state with electoral vote totals and has promised to keep the site current tomorrow as results come in. Sometimes the site has been flaky under heavy loads, in which case you should try electoral-vote3.com, electoral-vote4.com as well.

The way I see it... (5, Funny)

katpurz (721210) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696598)

> I live in Australia so I can't get them through watching CNN and so forth

The way I see it, you're about 9 hours ahead of us (?) so why don't YOU tell US the outcome???

Re:The way I see it... (1)

cpghost (719344) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696695)

why don't YOU tell US the outcome?

As if the outcome was not already known!

Radio? (1)

tooth (111958) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696634)

Turn on your radio? That will give you updates on the road...

The ABC election website [abc.net.au] was really good during the (Australian) election too, it had a nice flash applet that allowed you to zoom in on electorates and switch the view from previous, estimated wins and switching seats.

The only thing that disappointed me were the results it showed :(

this is good for (5, Informative)

BigBir3d (454486) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696656)

a non-partisan view.

I will stay up all night election night and update the site in real time. I am NOT promising to stay up until we know who the president is. I would definitely like to go to bed sometime during the month of November.


http://www.electoral-vote.com/ [electoral-vote.com]

I live in Australia too... (5, Funny)

B747SP (179471) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696660)

I live in Australia so I can't get them through watching CNN and so forth.

I live in Australia too, and I gotta tell ya, it is infinitely frustrating. This election directly affects all of us here, and everyone in the other fifty (or however many it is) states has the constitutional right to vote, why not us? I suppose Hawaii went through the same thing at one stage, being separated from the mainland just like us.

Ummm, the radio? (1)

andyring (100627) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696672)

Granted, it's low-tech, but I'd imagine any AM radio will do the trick just fine. Or sign up for any of the countless "breaking news" services (CNN has one, MSNBC does, and others) which will e-mail your cell phone with breaking news.

Highest bandwidth (1)

TMB (70166) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696676)

I want the highest bandwidth solution of all. I'm also in Australia, and I don't care so much about seeing the numbers (or rather, I do, but I have full confidence in my ability to find them on my own) as I do about hearing the commentary. Information on the House and Senate races, where the surprises are, what interesting patterns there are that don't come up in lists of "x votes for A and y votes for B in state C".

So... does anyone know if there will be online TV (preferably) or radio broadcasts?

[TMB]

megapundit (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10696681)

http://www.megapundit.com/results2004.php

Why libertarians/conservatives can't support Bush (2, Interesting)

ShatteredDream (636520) | more than 9 years ago | (#10696687)

For a long time I have been critical of Bush and his policies. For those that are looking for a systematic reason why a conservative or libertarian shouldn't support Bush, I have one here [blindmindseye.com] . I think that I have covered basically all of the bases for those on the right, including most of the major reasons that hold outs use to support him.
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