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Election Day Discussion

CmdrTaco posted more than 9 years ago | from the last-chance-to-complain dept.

Politics 1718

With the polls now already open in most of the country, this is the official on-topic place for all Slashdot readers to discuss the election itself. And get out and vote if you can. Also, if you haven't noticed, the Slashdot poll shows once and for all where Slashdot readers fall on the election. I'm off to vote in a couple hours. Wonder if we'll have Diebolds in my district.

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fp (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10700019)

frist psot!!1

Remove the Chicken-Hawk (0, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10700080)

The dude was a coward when he could have seen action... Easy to be brave with other's lives...

Irag was an optional war.

Virtually his whole org are chicken-hawks.
wusses.

More clickbait (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10700023)

As predicted yesterday [slashdot.org] . 2400 comments yesterday isn't enough!

Re:More clickbait (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10700154)

Site is slow after only 40 comments. Use the mirror [nyud.net] .

Why bother? It's stolen already (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10700168)

Just look at all the machines that had hundreds of votes in them even before voting started. These elections are a complete fraud, they are thoroughly corrupted.

Why bother voting? Just get out there and riot.

First Vote! (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10700024)

First Vote!

SouthPark (2, Funny)

kannibal_klown (531544) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700025)

Like always, it's a choice between a doosh and a turd sandwhich.

Re:SouthPark (2)

Canuck_TV (804581) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700078)

The problem this time around being that the turd sandwhich also has bits of glass and razor blades in it for flavour.

Please don't bite it. Not another 4 years of watching you with a bloody mouth...

Re:SouthPark (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10700128)

Come on people, vote Bush out. Wouldn't you love to see the look on his smug little face when he loses?

His father couldn't get re-elected, and neither will he. A sad, pathetic, puppet of a man- nothing without his family's influence and his 'advisors', who are the ones with the real power, deeply evil men such as Cheney.

History will see him as the worst president yet, fitting as he was never really elected.

Vote Libertarian (4, Informative)

clonebarkins (470547) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700026)

For meaningful change, the only choice is Michael Badnarik [badnarik.org] !

Re:Vote Libertarian (2, Insightful)

thesupermikey (220055) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700076)

i think not. I'm all for 3rd partys and everything, but the they are much more effective at the local level where they can have an impact.

Re: Vote Libertarian (2, Insightful)

Black Parrot (19622) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700101)


> For meaningful change, the only choice is Michael Badnarik!

Wouldn't you find change away from Bush's foreign and human rights policies meaningful?

Re: Vote Libertarian (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10700169)

Not when the alternative hasn't defined his own plans beyond "I'll do things better than he did."

Re:Vote Libertarian (3, Insightful)

atomm1024 (570507) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700152)

This gets moderated as 0, Troll? What exactly is wrong this opinion? While I do think Libertarians tend to be closet-anarchist nut jobs, this isn't a troll. It's just an expression of a political opinion, which is what this thread is about, isn't it? I mean, it's not like he was saying "For meaningful change, the only choice is GNAA Lysol [www.gnaa.us] !" That would have been a troll, but I don't see how this is.

GNAA FP (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10700029)

lol

Voter fraud! (1, Informative)

Mz6 (741941) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700032)

Well... it looks like we already have our first reports of voter fraud in Phildaelphia, atleast, according to Drudge. I have been trying to see if I can find out if it's true or not through the Election Incident Reporting System (EIRS) [voteprotect.org] . So far, their site has been very, very slow to respond. Anyways.. Drudge says that there are reports of over 2,000 votes already being casted on voting machines BEFORE the polls were even open. Is anyone in Phily that can corroborate the stories? Nothing I have seen thus far says which candidate the votes were casted for, but I am very curious...

Re:Voter fraud! (1, Interesting)

wizbit (122290) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700102)

Well, the polling places mentioned are in Center City and North Philly, mostly. Those are (especially N. Philly) primarily districts where the Democratic registration would be especially high, so that (to me) indicates they could be GOP votes that were planted. Don't know, and Drudge doesn't tell us. I've been unable to confirm it as well, and Drudge is known for his share of whoppers, but this is a very disturbing report indeed...

Re:Voter fraud! (0)

xanadu-xtroot.com (450073) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700144)

I live just outside Philly. All I know for sure is that I'm hearing the same thing you're saying all over the news (like the local AM news station, and national ones as well). The votes were for Bush... :-\

Re:Voter fraud! (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10700155)

If Drudge is reporting it I would suspect Democratic fraud is alleged.

Meanwhile, the Republican party is engaged in massive, organized vote fraud [eriposte.com] . Does anyone care?

Frosty Post 4 U (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10700033)

Yay! Bite my balls you faggots!!!!!
I IS TEH MAN!!

Whoooo!!!! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10700034)

Another pointless Slashdot politics thread! Let the mindless flamewars commence!

Bush to win 50% to 48% (1, Informative)

XavierItzmann (687234) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700035)

At least that's what John Fund at the WSJ says this morning!

4 more years!

Re:Bush to win 50% to 48% (1)

paganizer (566360) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700178)

yike.
I for one didn't do anything to prevent it; I couldn't handle the thought of voting for either asshole, so I wrote in a vote for Ron Paul.
BTW, when I asked if there was an option for a paper ballot, I was told "no".

Yay for rabidness! (3, Insightful)

FortKnox (169099) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700036)

A place to talk politics that will start off intelligently, and end in a bloodbath where only the extreme sides remain.

And no one will change their mind, regardless.

WHAT FUN!

Re:Yay for rabidness! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10700097)

Hey! I like to think I'm open-minded enough to change my opinions. Of course, I voted this morning already, so I guess its too late...

Re:Yay for rabidness! (1)

general_re (8883) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700118)

A place to talk politics that will start off intelligently, and end in a bloodbath where only the extreme sides remain.

Just like the last half a dozen election threads we've had in the last few days. Fun is fun, but do we really need one a day? How about a perpetual, ongoing politics thread, one that never gets pushed off the front page, so that we can at least keep it all in one place...

I've been waiting at work all morning for this (5, Funny)

HMA2000 (728266) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700037)

Finally, something to distract me. I want some extreme polazation in this thread people!!!

Re:I've been waiting at work all morning for this (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10700130)

Go North Pole! We don't need no stinkin' landmass at our pole!

Go Kerry! (1, Insightful)

Adian (104160) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700040)

May whatever forces that keep us moving toward whateverness please please please put Kerry into office. Not because I think he's a better man, but he's hella better than Bush.

Dude... (1)

the phantom (107624) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700156)

you just used the word "hella". Fear my wrath! ^_^ That being said, I am forced to agree with the thrust of your argument: Go Kerry!

Re:Go Kerry! (5, Funny)

evilviper (135110) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700162)

[...]please put Kerry into office. Not because I think he's a better man, but he's hella better than Bush.

My head just exploded.

You don't think Kerry is the better man, but you think he's better than the other man?

Are you sure you're not one of those undecided voter?

Election rigging already? (2, Informative)

VC (89143) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700043)

Drudge [drudgereport.com] is saying voting machines were found with hundreds of votes on them, _before_ polling started in philidepllhia. Anyone know if they use diabold machines there?

Re:Election rigging already? (5, Informative)

whome (122077) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700148)

No. They are talking about old mechanical voting machines. They probably weren't properly zeroed after the last election. This happens all the time, which is why all the machines are checked on election day before the voting begins. Drudge is trying to make an affair out of nothing.

While the Poll is obvious... (5, Interesting)

OS24Ever (245667) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700048)

..it is also obvious that Slashdot has an international readership. Would there be any way to re-run the poll restricting it to US bound IP address to see if the race isn't so runaway for Kerry from the slashdot side?

That being said, I'm all for Kerry to win. But I live in a pretty red state. Though while standing in line to feed my paper ballot marked with a pen into some thing I saw that the few people in front of me had all voted for Kerry/Edwards which I found interesting, considering how little either party has paid attention to North Carolina this year.

Re:While the Poll is obvious... (2, Interesting)

calibanDNS (32250) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700141)

I also live in North Carolina and voted this morning. I was very suprised to see the large turnout for Kerry/Edwards at my polling station (in Winston-Salem in case you're wondering).

Considering that Edwards is from NC, I'm surprised that Bush didn't spend a little more time campaigning here to help secure his win. I'm almost certain that he'll win, but it was good to see some friends and family that I know are die-hard Republicans approach this election with an open mind. Note that I'm not saying that anyone with an open-mind will automatically vote for Kerry (or any other non-Bush candidate).

Here in VA (1)

ZipR (584654) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700050)

We have some other brand of e-voting machine. With no paper, and no network connection -- just a power cord into the wall. Wonder what happens if they're unplugged? Or crash?

Re:Here in VA -- WINVote (2, Informative)

BobGregg (89162) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700171)

In Northern Virginia, they're using WINVote [washingtonpost.com] machines. I used one this morning in North Arlington - and waited TWO HOURS PLUS to vote.

The wait was not due to the machines, though; they only had one set of voter rolls, and one person flipping through them to verify voters. They had us divided up into A-K and L-Z lines. The L-Z line was maybe 30-45 minutes; the A-K line was the aforementioned 2+ hours. I worry about how many people turned away from the lines, just because they didn't man the polls appropriately...

probably optical scan (1)

jon787 (512497) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700051)

We have optical scan machines made by some company other than Diebold over here in Grandville.

Most of my friend's absentee ballots are identical to mine, so I assume these machines have become pretty standardized across michigan.

Bush Victory Greeting to Slashdotters (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10700053)

here's my point of view.. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10700054)

fuck you im a freak

#DD

Vote Al Harkrader! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10700056)

He's out network guy, vote for him!

He managed to switch us to a VoIP phone solution, and still has all his hair, that alone says something!

Plus, he is the only guy that publically states his desire to 'liberate' the maple syrup from Canada.

Finally! (4, Funny)

Z-MaxX (712880) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700058)

I forgot what it was like to turn on the TV or drive 2 blocks without being flooded with political ads. Yay! Finally back to real life. :)

Vote early... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10700059)

and vote often!

Vote planting in Philly (3, Informative)

wizbit (122290) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700062)

Submitted this, but in case it gets rejected, Matt Drudge [drudgereport.com] is reporting that about 2,000 votes were "planted" in Philadelphia-area voting machines before the polling places opened this morning. I guess it would be un-Drudgelike to mention which candidate the votes favored, but regardless, here's the abstract as of thirty seconds ago:

Before voting even began in Philadelphia -- poll watchers found nearly 2000 votes already planted on machines scattered throughout the city... One incident occurred at the SALVATION ARMY, 2601 N. 11th St., Philadelphia, Pa: Ward 37, division 8... pollwatchers uncovered 4 machines with planted votes; one with over 200 and one with nearly 500... A second location, 1901 W. Girard Ave., Berean Institute, Philadelphia, Pa, had 300+ votes already on 2 machines at start of day... INCIDENT: 292 votes on machine at start of day; WARD/DIVISION: 7/7: ADDRESS: 122 W. Erie Ave., Roberto Clemente School, Philadelphia, Pa.; INCIDENT: 456 votes on machine at start of day; WARD/DIVISION: 12/3; ADDRESS: 5657 Chew Ave., storefront, Philadelphia, Pa... A gun was purposely made visible to scare poll watchers at Ward 30, division 11, at 905 S. 20th St., Grand Court. Police were called and surrounded the location... Developing...

866-OUR-VOTE (3, Insightful)

base_chakra (230686) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700121)

If you have any problems at your polling place, call the Election Protection hotline at 866-OUR-VOTE (866-687-8683). This is not the time for complaisance. [rediff.com]

Re:Vote planting in Philly (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10700149)

your country is really in trouble!!!

The US has the biggest mouth in the world, "we are the best, we are the best", "god bless america" rar rar rar. I don't know what sort of news you get there in the states, but from where I sit your country is a terrible place. A place where you all try to enslave each other with money. A place where your last president wasn't even voted in, and you sit back and do nothing. And now the same thing is happening again, I have no doubt those votes in those machines were for George W Bush.

I plead with the American geeks of slashdot, go do something; talk with your freggin congresman. If that crazy Bush gets in again, I really do believe America will lead the so called "free world" into another war.

Re:Vote planting in Philly (4, Informative)

zasos (688522) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700177)

same as parent - submitted but just in case:

Salon's.com [salon.com] election news column, War Room [salon.com] reports that early voters in New Mexico and Texas have already reported serious problems [salon.com] with electronic voting machines. Many computer scientists (aka Slashdot readers) have been very vocal about the potential pitfalls of electronic voting. A group of e-voting experts including Barbara Simons, perhaps the medium's biggest critic, has started a blog to interpret what potential problems might mean [evoting-experts.com] as the vote -- and mis-votes -- keep coming in. Are there any Slashdoters who may be interested in this virtual bug hunting/.interpretations?

newsflash (2, Funny)

Vanguard(DC) (203158) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700064)

go out and vote for Bush and stuff...and stuff...

[insert redundant political rant here]

Taco's vote (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10700066)

It was dark in the Holland, Michigan office nestled deep within Slashdot's Geek Compound. Shifting and moaning, ESR laid sprawled over his filthy desk. Dried spittle stuck several Post-It notes to his cheek. His PC, running Linux, silently printed swap error after swap error to the screen, lighting ESR's sickly form. As he burped several times he attempted to recall the night before that had led to this stupor. Holding his head in his hands, he was interrupted by lights and doors slamming-- someone was in the office!

As Rob "CmdrTaco" Malda walked past ESR, he noticed the several empty bottles of Jägermeister and what appeared to be fecal stains on the floor and walls surrounding the recovering ESR-- nothing new. He also noticed the some semen bubbling in the cracks of ESR's chafed lips.

"Another all-night office orgy, Eric?" Rob asked coyly.

Tilting his head gingerly toward Rob and raising his eyebrows slowly, ESR spoke softly. "Oh shit. Is that what happened last night? I believe I blacked out at some point-- I can't remember anything. Who was here last night?"

"Well, CowboyNeil got there a little late last night, but he said that by the time he got there that Alan, Emad, Jamie, Michael, and Signal 11 were already pretty drunk," Rob said just a little too loudly for ESR's tender head.

Closing and opening his eyes gently, ESR muttered to himself about having not invited Signal 11. He also started sniffing the air and licking his lips. "I can smell dried feces on a dick a mile away. Just where were you last night, Robbie? You get a piece of ass last night and decide to ditch my party?"

"What's it to you? Your breath smells like semen and you don't hear me asking whose it is," Malda shot back.

ESR smiled and swiveled with a gleam in his eyes. "Ah, but you see, this is my own sperm!"

"And it must taste specfuckingtacular!" Rob shot back.

Eric interjected before Rob could go on. "Ah yes. You see, I like to add a shot of Jäger to it to give it a little kick."

"No," Rob replied with anger rising in his voice, "you fucking raging alcoholic. Your semen tastes like old motor oil. I think you may have ruptured both of your testicles and now your colon is shooting diarrhea out of your cock-hole."

"What!? You little fudge-packing piece of shit!" ESR threatened, "Ditch one of my office parties because Hemos calls up and says he's lonely, will you? I bet that's what happened. Well, guess who I'll be recommending we lay off at the next LNUX board meeting? How do you like that, Taco?"

"Whatever, Eric. You don't scare anyone except your parents," Rob said as he stormed out of ESR's office, his green plaid flannel whipping in the wake behind him. "You would be nothing without Slashdot."

ESR stammered and shook. Ever since the LNUX stock had plummeted, things were so tense around the office. Relations were falling apart between he and the Slashdot admins. Last night, Michael and Jamie had pounded each other exclusively, ignoring ESR's crooked, erect penis, and Eric had to convince Emad and Alan to restrain CowboyNeil before he could engage in homosexual intercourse with him.

With a flick of his wrist, ESR popped a dozen extra-strength Bayers down his stinking gullet and washed them down with some Jäger from the bottle he had woken up holding. Depressed, aching, and on the verge of vomiting up the entirety of last night's semen binge, ESR cried silently and went back to sleep at this desk, ignoring the pile of work that sullied the landscape of his desktop.

Clapping twice to darken his office, ESR curled into fetal position as best he could and rested, preparing to do it all over again later that night.

It can't be said enough... (5, Insightful)

killthiskid (197397) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700067)

It can't be said enough times: Americans! Please go vote! Voting is a right you get to keep by the very act of exercising it.

Remember boys and girls, (1)

Black Parrot (19622) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700068)


If someone tries to interfere with your vote, holler for one of the guys in blue helmets.

Philadelphia Tricks (1)

fixit4u (717501) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700069)

Drudgereports.com has a post that is interesting it talks about voting machines in Philadelphia

Thank God! (5, Funny)

Daengbo (523424) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700070)

I hope it's all decided quickly, so the Canadian who sits next to me at work can stop bitching about the election all day every day. I swear she cares more deeply about this than I do.

And, to her, no, I still won't watch F.9/11, thank you very much. I don't need any extra propoganda in my life.

if you choose to not vote (5, Insightful)

Triumph The Insult C (586706) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700071)

don't bitch about the president during the next 4 years

However, if you *do* vote, (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10700159)

you still can't complain! After all, you got what you wanted, didn't you?

The only case in which you really can complain is if you voted for the loser. Or, "better" yet, can't vote.

Inka-Vote rocks (1)

glowimperial (705397) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700072)

I just voted using the Inka-Vote system here in california that basically replaces the poking coles with ink dots, and it was very nice. I got a paper receipt, like I want, and there is no way in hell that my ballot could be misinterpreted. I feel bad for the folks using touchscreens and diebold machines.

Vote for Kerry! (1)

dourk (60585) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700073)

cause, ya know, a vote for Bush is a Bad Thing.

Ukraine (4, Funny)

GoofyBoy (44399) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700077)

Finally, an slashdot story that is non-American-centric!

Irregularities already.... Philadelphia (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10700079)

Copied from Drudge, but the information matches what we're hearing locally here in Philly...

Before voting even began in Philadelphia -- poll watchers found nearly 2000 votes already planted on machines scattered throughout the city... One incident occurred at the SALVATION ARMY, 2601 N. 11th St., Philadelphia, Pa: Ward 37, division 8... pollwatchers uncovered 4 machines with planted votes; one with over 200 and one with nearly 500... A second location, 1901 W. Girard Ave., Berean Institute, Philadelphia, Pa, had 300+ votes already on 2 machines at start of day... INCIDENT: 292 votes on machine at start of day; WARD/DIVISION: 7/7: ADDRESS: 122 W. Erie Ave., Roberto Clemente School, Philadelphia, Pa.; INCIDENT: 456 votes on machine at start of day; WARD/DIVISION: 12/3; ADDRESS: 5657 Chew Ave., storefront, Philadelphia, Pa... A gun was purposely made visible to scare poll watchers at Ward 30, division 11, at 905 S. 20th St., Grand Court. Police were called and surrounded the location...

Voting was fine (2, Interesting)

AbbyNormal (216235) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700081)

Voting was relatively easy/painless in PA. Supposedely lines were long this morning (at least at my polling place). VA people are telling me that their polls had lines in record numbers. My parents waited in line for two hours (1 outside the building, 1 inside).

I'm curious to hear from Ohio voters. Has anyone been challenged yet?

Re:Voting was fine (1)

grocer (718489) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700131)

Non-eventful when I voted this morning in Toledo, Ohio and no sign of challegers...Lucas County has a list of voters who have been challenged, so I think maybe it shakes out when you sign in. I think I saw one observer but that's it.

The polling place was busy, so people came out...I usually walk in and get my ballot, today I had to wait 20 minutes.

Re:Voting was fine (1)

Govt Stooge (235627) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700174)

No challenge in Bellbrook (suburb of Dayton), although the poll workers were not friendly. I said hello, and thank you after I handed him my ballot (punch card, go technology) no response what so ever. Definately long lines, I got lucky the line for my precinct was very short. There were two precincts where I voted, the other one was at least an hour wait at 8 this morning, I don't expect it to get any better throughout the day. Wife's coworker had an hour and half wait in another county. The local radio is saying record turnouts, possibly greater than 60%.

What happens when your president is an AOHeller (0, Offtopic)

eno2001 (527078) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700082)

OMFG!!! ROTFL!!! Osama IS a troll after all!

He said, and I quote: ...al Qaeda has found it "easy for us to provoke and bait this administration."

And Bush is... a newbie from AOL!

ROTFLMAO!!!!!1111 ;P

I'm off to vote.... (1)

KublaiKhan (522918) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700083)

.....and really, the presidential race means little to nothing to me, as I hate both of the candidates. I'll vote out the incumbent, because I don't like the way the country's going right now, but that's about it.

No, my chief reason for being excited is because of the local issues on the ballot--for instance, the city I live in [ Bangor, ME ] has an issue on the ballot to move the police station away from downtown. I personally feel it belongs downtown, where people can walk into it....but anyway. That, and a couple state measures, are the only good reasons to vote for me, other than the general principal of "If I don't vote, I really have to right to bitch about what happens, later"

I suggest Civil War! (0, Troll)

efuseekay (138418) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700084)

I think it is high time the Red and the Blue States engage in Civil War!

THe last time you guys did it was back when the blues elected Lincoln!

Come on! Gimme Civil War! Wanna Wanna Wanna!

Good turnout? (1)

northcat (827059) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700086)

I don't live in US. I read about people not turning up for voting. But I saw the long queues on TV. What is the turnout? Is it better than previous elections or is it the same or worse?

Re: Good turnout? (1)

Black Parrot (19622) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700142)


> I don't live in US. I read about people not turning up for voting. But I saw the long queues on TV. What is the turnout? Is it better than previous elections or is it the same or worse?

We're expecting the best turnout in decades, but there's a strip of nasty weather right across the country which might reduce turnout in that area, which includes a couple of swing states.

I've seen reports of as many as 40% of registered voters participating in early voting, in some towns.

Kerry's going to win... (1)

nautical9 (469723) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700087)

According to snopes.com [snopes.com] , it's already a sure thing [redskins.com] ! ;-)

Long lines early in Chicago (1)

nightsweat (604367) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700089)

Got to the poll at 6:02, polls opened at 6:00. 70 people in line ahead of me in this dark blue area of a dark blue state.

Are they turning out like that in Texas?

Site very slow (2, Funny)

b4rtm4n (692708) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700090)

A valiant attempt by the Slashdot editors to slashdot Slashdot itself.

First Flamebait! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10700091)

Kerry sucks. Long live King George II!

DieBold report (1)

CottonThePirate (769463) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700092)

I voted today on Diebold in Md. System worked ok. My "voter admin slip" which is a piece of paper with all my info(name address etc) was marked with which machine I used, so presumably if that machine blue screens or gets EMPed by a clever trouble maker they can call me up and ask what I voted. You could "change you mind in the booth" which I tried out by unclicking and then reclicking a box. At the end you get a nice summary before hitting the commit button. All in all I like this better than paper, but I wish it printed out a little receipt that I put in a box for recount purposes. Here's hoping for the best.

The most important thing to keep in mind.... (5, Funny)

Rahga (13479) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700093)

Remember to vote, or P. Diddy will kill you. [gothamist.com]

Relevant sites? (2, Informative)

The-Bus (138060) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700094)

Let's keep a tally of sites with relevant information. Not sure if there's a bias in their reporting of news, but I've come to like Real Clear Politics [realclearpolitics.com] as a way to keep track of the polls, etc.

Of course there's always non-US news sites like The Guardian [guardian.co.uk] and The Economist's articles [economist.com] regarding the election.

Breaking "news" also appears on Drudge Report [drudgereport.com] . As far as blogs go, I don't really have any good ones. Any other ones you guys like?

I got my vote on in Virginia (4, Interesting)

slungsolow (722380) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700095)

They were touch screen devices that were named "WinVote". The first thing I saw was a blue screen. Man was I scared.

On a side note, I don't remember seeing voter turnout like this before, but the only elections I was involved with in this state were strictly senatorial or congressional. Those times I was in line for a good 10 minutes, this morning was a little over an hour. There was a great turnout and just about everyone in line seemed pretty excited. The folks at the polls who weren't election officials (people from the different parties) did a good job of helping people out without bugging the hell out of us (handing out copies of the ballots, walking the old people to the building and through the line - BUT not to the voting machines).


All in all it was a good experience, and I hope it works like this across the whole country.

accuracy and precision (4, Insightful)

joshtimmons (241649) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700096)

I've been wanting to get this off my chest for a while now, and what better forum for this than slashdot.

We have an election system here in the US that attempts to count every vote. At some point they stop counting and announce the final results.

Anyway, we learned 4 years ago (and are learning this time too) that the vote is not accurate. It is error prone and sometimes subjective. But I haven't seen anyone attempt to quantify the level of error in the voting process? Why hasn't there been some academic or impartial attempt to measure the margin of error in our polling.

Why is this important? Because if you don't know the margin of error, then you don't know what the outcome is. Period. If Bush reports 51% to Kerry 49% and the margin of error is 5%, then we don't know who won the election. It's a statistical tie and anyone who announces a winner is at best foolish.

Re:accuracy and precision (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10700133)

Well, I think the supreme court has some sort of issue with someone later actually counting the votes accurately.

Voting (5, Insightful)

Tomahawk (1343) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700105)

Someone said to me that, if you are living in an area where the vote is more or less decided (such as a very strong Bush locale, or a very strong Kerry locale), especially if you are voting the other way from the general populus, then don't waste your vote on either the Bush or Kerry side. Instead, vote for one of the smaller parties - if they receive 5% of the vote, then their funding is increased, and they may be able to work on something good in your area.

This doesn't follow in all counties, just in those that are very very strongly Bush or Kerry, and you are voting the other way. 'Cos if you vote the other way, you vote will more or less be lost.

Finally, no matter which way you are thinking of voting, go out and vote. If you don't know who to vote for, then vote for a 3rd party. But cast your vote!

T.

Vote! (2, Informative)

luna69 (529007) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700112)

> And get out and vote if you can.

No, no, no, no. Get out and vote EVEN IF YOU CAN'T.

I don't care how hard it is, how inconvenient it is, what state you live in - think your state's tally is a foregone conclusion? So what - the totals still matter.

Seriously, folks - no matter which "side" you're on, this election MATTERS. GO VOTE!

Or don't complain for four years.

thank goodness, looks like kerry is winning. (3, Informative)

Surt (22457) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700113)

Looks like the early polls are favoring kerry 53/46/1 overall and 300/270ish electorally.

Collapse the System In On Itself. (1)

muntumbomoklik (806936) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700115)

On your ballot, choose to write-in a candidate and write your own name down. If everyone who voted did this, then the nation would have to realign its democratic system. And all of the politicans would be wetting their pants. :)

fairfax county va (4, Interesting)

UVABlows (183953) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700116)

The polls are swamped in fairfax. The procedure is as follows:

1) Stand in line to get your id checked. If you are registered you get a blue index card.

2) Stand in a different line with your card and wait for a winvote [enfocom.com] machine to open up.

3) When it is your turn you present your card to the election worker that supervises the terminal that just opened up. She takes your blue card and unlocks the machine.

4) You vote.

Note that thing differentiating a random person that walked up to the machine and a registered, approved voter is posession of the blue card. Multiple people left after receiving their blue cards, saying they couldn't wait another hour and that they would return later. There is nothing stopping these people from reproducing the cards and returning multiple times. The voting places are an absolute packed madhouse, NO ONE would notice if someone just walked up to the second line with a blue card.

Did anyone else see any other glaring holes in their election procedures?

Obligatory post (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10700120)

Diebold is dying!!1!one!!for(int i=0; i549id!eight

Publishing results while voting continues (3, Interesting)

Stephen (20676) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700122)

I'd like to hear what Americans think about results and exit polls for eastern states being published before polls in western states have closed.

In the rest of the democratic world, as far as I know, this is illegal. It seems to us that it goes against having a fair election. And yet in America it is normal practice. Why?

Remember to vote, or else (1, Redundant)

Savatte (111615) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700125)

P. Diddy will kill you

yee haw (0, Troll)

comet69 (198367) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700126)

think of it this way,

atleast with a Douche, you'll feel fresh and clean.. like a new start.. less worries.. and no iritation..

however, 4 more years of a turd sandwich, i mean.. how good could that be??

btw, the drudgereport is the worst source for you news you could possibly use.. right next to fox..

for such a liberating site like slashdot, since it promotes awesome rebellious operating systems like linux and unix, how could you vote for someone like bush? i almost feel that someone who uses linux, and is passionate about it, as far as its origin, and current day-to-day use, is very contradictory to their political beliefs, and is therefore quite the tard..

make the right decision.. take a look around your neighborhoods.. cities and communities that are nicely planned are obviously signs of an educated society, and you see Kerry billboards everywhere.. you drive through the boondocks that can't even manage their own sewage, and you see nothing but Bush signs.. they are less educated people, therefore they vote for the less educated president.. and it just so happens they watch fox news.. the most uneducated news network..

and jesus don't worry about fscking paying taxes... there's absolutely nothing beneficial you can get from life, without investing either time or money into it.. it makes sense.. you want to live a better life? vote for a president that manages your damn money better instead of throwing it away on killing innocent people..

Slashdot stress test (1)

onyxruby (118189) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700135)

This will be interesting as we find out just how many comments the database will handle in one day. I think the previous record was around 2000 or so on 9/11. Happy voting to all.

Slashdot Poll Good News For Bush (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10700136)

Considering how rabidly Anti-Bush most Slashdot editors and readers are, it's surprising that Bush (or, more accurately, "Not-Kerry") still manages to pull 25% of the Slashdot poll.

Obviously an online poll isn't accurate, but it could translate into excellent numbers for Bush if you consider that one quarter of a Democrat-biased stronghold plans on voting against Kerry.

Listen to this mp3 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10700137)

The truth [radcity.net] about John Kerry. It's kinda scarry ;)

Best of Luck ... (2, Insightful)

goodhell (227411) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700138)

to all the candidates who are running today. I sincerely hope that the "best" candidate wins.

One of my even greater hopes is that whoever loses will concede and allow the victor to take the publicly appointed position. Especially in the presidential race. I feel that this country should unite under the leadership of the president regardless of who they voted for, but whoever was elected. The electoral college, given power by the people, gets to decide who the president of the United States will be for the next four years, for good or ill. I hope and pray that whoever wins will have the courage and fortitude to lead us in the next few years. I also hope and pray the "loser" will have the courage to admit defeat and let the country move forward.

We may not particularly like the choices, but let's be the best people we can be and progress from there. Best of luck/karma!!!

To our American Friends... (1)

zx75 (304335) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700143)

We Understand Your Pain [thestar.com]

- A very interesting read, article at the TorontoStar. Let me know if you cannot access it and I'll post the text.

Hey come on! (1)

whiteranger99x (235024) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700147)

I can joke about the election as much as the next person, but at least have some composure, people!

That being said, let's hope there aren't any shennagans with the outcome this time like in 2000 :P

Equipment Review: (1)

theparanoidcynic (705438) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700151)

In my county we do things right. No expensive, uneliable, hackalicious electronic gear. I voted with a pen, on a card. That card goes in a scantron machine - the same technology that we've all been using since 7th grade. I'm very happy with voting this way.

In other news: is it just me or did /. just /. itself?

Wonder if I was a "Caged Voter" (5, Interesting)

Skraut (545247) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700153)

Tried to vote this morning, Gave my Name, Address, and showed my Drivers License, and was told I wasn't registered. I pulled out my voter registration card, to prove that I was registered, and the attendant looked in her book and told me that there were no voters registered at my address. Despite me having a 20 day old card stating the opposite

I leaned in and looked at the book (breaking every rule in the book by looking at the book) and saw my name and pointed to it. The attendant looked at my name and stated, "but your drivers license says 2950 Ridge Rd, but in my book it says 2951 Ridge Rd" (an address which does not exist)

She spent 20 minutes on the phone with the board of elections trying to figure out what it is she was supposed to do.

Despite having a drivers license with 2950, a voter registration card with 2950, she was bound and determined not to let me vote because her book said 2951. I asked what paperwork I would need to fill out if I wanted to claim that I had moved. She explained that I could fill out the paperwork, but my vote would not be counted until the paperwork cleared. Figuring that would mean my vote would only be counted in a disputed recount situation (if even then) this wasn't acceptable to me either.

Finally another attendant called the Board of Elections (because I was starting to get very agitated) and discovered I could fill out the change of address forms with me, vote, and then turn the forms into the board of elections today.

I'm still not convinced my vote will get counted. I was given an "I Voted" sticker, and wondered if I did or not.

All Hail President Kang (1)

darthv506 (571196) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700157)

It makes no difference which one of us you vote for. Either way, your planet is doomed. DOOMED!

I already voted... (2, Funny)

xsupergr0verx (758121) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700158)

and I was disgusted to see that my candidate [somethingawful.com] was not on the ballot. I truly believe he can "end global terrorism within 24 hours."

Kerry's going to win... (0, Redundant)

nautical9 (469723) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700161)

According to snopes.com [snopes.com] , it's a sure thing [yahoo.com] ! ;-)

I wanted to make a comment on the polls... (1)

AviLazar (741826) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700164)

but I couldn't get on /. I forget what I was going to say - because I am more concerned...did /. get /.'ed?

No choices (1)

Raul654 (453029) | more than 9 years ago | (#10700167)

There's only one option here - you must vote for Fxjkhr [passagen.se] . And remember - regime change begins at home.

Take politics somewhere else (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10700175)

With the election over it would be nice to see the political discussion get moved somewhere. I've seen a couple mentions of something called "techmocracy", a democractic movement built on digital communication and collaboration.

It might be worth breathing some life into evolutionary movements like that.

http://www.techmocracy.net
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