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DS Pre-Orders Stopped as Sales Soar

Zonk posted more than 9 years ago | from the nintendo-must-be-weeping-right-now dept.

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GamesIndustry.biz has the story that major retailers Gamestop and EBGames are likely going to stop DS Preorders because they're coming so fast that they won't be able to meet demand when the system launches. From the article: "It appears that six games will be available on day one - Nintendo's Super Mario 64 DS, Sega's Feel The Magic XY/XX, Activision's Spider-Man 2, Ubisoft's Asphalt Urban GT and two from EA - Madden NFL 2005 and The Urbz: Sims in the City." Gamespot also has details on the handheld shortage.

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Smart marketing? (3, Interesting)

fembots (753724) | more than 9 years ago | (#10726538)

I don't know if this is called smart or stupid marketing campaign.

On one hand, it's good to create (even an illusional) high demand on DS, but on the other, it might have missed the golden opportunity to lock consumers in before other rivals starting coming up with new consoles/games.

I read no mention of increased production before the release, they just promised to ship 4 million units by end of March 2005. This could be a good thing, as rushed products are usually bad ideas.

--
Play iCLOD Virtual City Explorer [iclod.com] and win Half-Life 2

Re:Smart marketing? (4, Insightful)

PornMaster (749461) | more than 9 years ago | (#10726670)

What makes you think it's a marketing campaign?

Every product meets up with delays in getting it to market, particularly technically complex products... if you allow more pre-orders than you can full, then - particularly in litigous societies - aren't you opening yourself up for allegations and possibly lawsuits of misrepresentation or fraud?

Hell hath no fury like a mother who's pissed off that the toy she already paid for won't be available until after Christmas.

Re:Smart marketing? (1)

RandoX (828285) | more than 9 years ago | (#10726768)

Nobody says they've stopped taking preorders yet. This might spur another crowd into the stores 'before they quit'.

Re:Smart marketing? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10727135)

Remember N64? Now I don't know if these things will sell out like those did, but I remember selling my N64 for $400+ becasue there were none left for Christmas and santa promised some very good kids they would get one. :P

I just ordered one, and will probably get another using a different address. EBgames is limiting 1 per customer at the moment. But if I do end up with extras, I do have some nephews that are looking for them this year anyway.

Re:Smart marketing? (1)

timts (766509) | more than 9 years ago | (#10727417)

I dont think ther'es any delay, this is the time nintendo wanted to release NDS long time ago.

Smart marketing & hands-on Nintendo DS preview (3, Informative)

Geartest.com (582779) | more than 9 years ago | (#10727975)

We spoke with some people in Nintendo's media/analyst relations department as well as a vice president who said that the company is shipping 1 million units for Nov. 21. This shortage doesn't appear to be an illusion.

If demand really is so high that retailers are stopping pre-orders then there may be a problem on the manufacturing side with a possible component shortage, or a simple lack of manufacturing capacity to produce more. There are a limited number of suppliers for some of the components that go into the DS and those suppliers have other customers besides Nintendo.

A few weeks back, we spent a couple of hours in a hands-on preview of the Nintendo DS [geartest.com] and previewing/playing Metroid Prime Hunters: First Hunt, Super Mario 64 DS, Spider-Man 2 DS and the onboard PictoChat instant messaging software.

We also checked out a few more titles yesterday, and will publish first impressions of those games soon.

Err.. (0, Flamebait)

commanderfoxtrot (115784) | more than 9 years ago | (#10726545)

And a DS is what precisely???

Re:Err.. (2, Informative)

Opalima (744615) | more than 9 years ago | (#10726570)

The DS is Nintendo's new fangles dual screen handheld. One screen for games. The second for adverts which will run continuously whilst viewing the first.

Err...Umm...Uhh (1)

no reason to be here (218628) | more than 9 years ago | (#10726614)

Flamebait?

Re:Err...Umm...Uhh (2, Interesting)

Evangelion (2145) | more than 9 years ago | (#10726778)


Prophecy.

What else is the wireless networking for? You sit and play in the food court, and then start seeing ads for Manchu Wok and Second Cup show up in the game.

If I was the right kind of person, that idea would give me a wet dream.

Re:Err.. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10727180)

Remember to meta-moderate, people.

Meta-moderate, so guys like the one who modded this as Troll won't get any modpoints again in the near future.

Re:Err.. (2, Funny)

PhoenixFlare (319467) | more than 9 years ago | (#10726589)

Following the links in the article is too much work, eh? It's a new Nintendo handheld, which you'd know if you actually read a paragraph or two.

Re:Err.. (1)

ManxStef (469602) | more than 9 years ago | (#10726732)

I think he's referring to the crappy titling of the article. As any journalist worth their salt knows, you should always explain any uncommon acronyms in the first instance, for example "Dual-Screen (DS)", or at least (in the case of headlines where print space may be tight) qualify them in such a way as to generally indicate what it's about. Would adding the words "Nintendo DS handheld..." really have been that hard?

Like others that browse news via RSS feed headlines (using Thunderbird v0.9), I sure as hell didn't know what the article was about. But then, Slashdot's hardly famed for its skilled and professional journalism now, is it...

Re:Err.. (1)

PhoenixFlare (319467) | more than 9 years ago | (#10726764)

"Would adding the words "Nintendo DS handheld..." really have been that hard?"

Would (as I just posted farther down) taking a few seconds to Google the name really have been that hard?

If you can take the time to make a post whining about the blurb not having enough info, you can take the time to find it out for yourself.

Re:Err.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10726899)

Nice attitude, moron. I'm sure there are lots of people that didn't know what the fuck a DS is. I didn't. Is it a hand held? Is it a console? Why should....ah, fuck it. It'll take to long to explain it all to you. Let's just agree you're a moron.

Have a nice day.

Re:Err.. (1)

KDR_11k (778916) | more than 9 years ago | (#10727110)

RTFA, first paragraph says "One of the largest videogame retail chains in the USA, GameStop, has halted its preorder campaign for the forthcoming Nintendo DS handheld, indicating that the chain has already sold out the launch allocation of the eagerly awaited console". The article summary doesn't need to explain what an iPod, a Mac or an XBox is (applies only to articles mentioning these devices, of course), yet the DS needs introduction every single time a story about it is posted?

Though I don't believe the question was genuine (rather just a complaint for complaint's sake) as someone who reads the games section of Slashdot should have seen at least one article that explains what the DS is.

Re:Err.. (0, Troll)

Suidae (162977) | more than 9 years ago | (#10727211)

My newsfeed comes up with "DS Pre-Orders Stopped as Sales Soar". No FA to R. Now I have to click through to slashdot to read the writeup, which still doesn't give me any idea WTF 'DS' is or why its so popular. So I have to load yet another site and go lookaround there (if its not slashdotted) to find more info.

Its stupid, the submitter could have saved me and probably thousands like me all that time and cumulative bandwidth and server load simply by adding a sentance or two to the writeup, which was too short anyway.

Re:Err.. (2, Insightful)

scot4875 (542869) | more than 9 years ago | (#10727838)

Reading a newsticker from games.slashdot.com and not knowing what the DS is is like watching ESPN's scoreboard and not knowing what sport the 'NHL' section is for.

If you are ignorant of the domain of discourse, it's your job to educate yourself. News tickers are supposed to be short and to the point.

--Jeremy

Re:Err.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10726957)

Well, the intelligent approach to this would be to have the author spend the 5 seconds to put in the proper information, rather than expect the thousands and thousands of /. users to spend more time looking up information, that the author already had. Therefore, what is better spent, 5 seconds by one person, or 35 seconds spent by hundreds of thousands of people? Your comment is just plain stupid. You are the same asshole who probably goes off the deepend, whenever you are confronted by strange information, that you do not fully understand (like girls, for instance).

You could look at it from a marketing standpoint. Is it really wise to have your customers leaving your site to answer a simple question that never needed to be asked?

This is the best comment of all!
If you can take the time to make a post whining about the blurb not having enough info, you can take the time to find it out for yourself

Uhh, correct me if I am wrong here, but isn't the whole point of /. to be a resource site for tech/nerd news? Well if I want to find it out for myself, then why the fuck is this site here? Either the site has a purpose (helping to disseminate tech news), or it is just a waste of space, right?

Please, if you are going to be critical, at least think it through before you post idiotic comments. Oh, who am I kidding, that's what /. is all about. No news, little info, lots of opinion, no thought.

Re:Err.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10727038)

You know, sometimes people just want to read the news without clicking links, waiting ages for the crawling website to answer and then scrolling around to find the 'obvious' bit of data.

I for one find the RTFA attitude pretty annoying when it's applied to cases other than spreading nonsense.

Re:Err.. (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10726681)

Nintendo's new handheld, featuring a pair of screens, and a new control scheme, relying on a D-pad and stylus.

But I've been wondering two things: Why is it so popular that they can't manage all the pre-orders? Nintendo has gone on record saying it's not going to replace the GBA, nor directly compete with it. So it's not just people buying the next-gen (unless, that's what they think it is). Is it the style factor, the wireless connectivity? The hope that it will become so much more?

Also, what is Nintendo's strategy with this device? Testing a market? Trying to figure out what a gamer/consumer wants, so they CAN implement it in the next GameBoy? I mean, it was first revealed this year's E3 (I believe. I don't remember the TGS), and it's already out for the holiday season. It doesn't look like it needed extended hype to get it moving. If someone could just answer the question "What the hell is going on?", I'd really appreciate it.

Re:Err.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10726946)

Its probably because your could use it as a PDA by installing Linux on it! check out dslinux.com

Re:Err.. (2, Interesting)

tuffy (10202) | more than 9 years ago | (#10727310)

But I've been wondering two things: Why is it so popular that they can't manage all the pre-orders? Nintendo has gone on record saying it's not going to replace the GBA, nor directly compete with it. So it's not just people buying the next-gen (unless, that's what they think it is). Is it the style factor, the wireless connectivity? The hope that it will become so much more?

It's not the official Gameboy replacement because Nintendo knows it's a risk. But it plays GBA titles along with DS ones, which makes it a de-facto GBA successor. Wireless capability, a fast ARM9 CPU, good battery life and the Nintendo brand add to the appeal - even though the quality of the launch lineup is uncertain.

But since the GBA compatibility is there, it's not as vital for the DS to blow people away with its launch titles either. As with most new consoles, it's the promise of future titles that gets people to buy them now.

Re:Err.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10727025)

Quite simply, I think the moderators are on crack. He asks a simple question and gets modded -1, Flamebait, yet a retarded smart-ass reply gets modded +4, Funny. What the fuck.

Jews ditd WTC and Arafat (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10726549)

You could be next!!!

fp (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10726556)

w00t

PS2 anyone? (2, Interesting)

GweeDo (127172) | more than 9 years ago | (#10726568)

Who else is reminded of the PS2 launch? There were no where near enough consoles to meet the need and it caused a huge buzz and lots of high priced ebay sells!

Well, atleast I have mine already preordered!

Re:PS2 anyone? (1)

vo243 (314271) | more than 9 years ago | (#10726671)

Actually, this would be the same for nearly every recent console introduction. The PS2 and Xbox were both like this.

Sony must be shaking in their boots... (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10726595)

The PSP has been riddled with plausible problems since its inception - a high cost to manufacture, attempting to reach out to a market that's not there (not many older people aside from the hardcore gamers play handheld systems), and low battery life. Now, customers have spoken and they want the DS... I don't think there's much room in the marketplace for both systems, maybe Sony should hold off on the PSP till it becomes a bit more plausible and cost-efficient to develop.

Re:Sony must be shaking in their boots... (1)

Dryth (544014) | more than 9 years ago | (#10726717)

attempting to reach out to a market that's not there (not many older people aside from the hardcore gamers play handheld systems)

Adults represent 2/3 of the video game market. If adults truly aren't playing handheld games, then presumable there's a good reason. One reason may be the present offerings, in which case Sony's appeal to this demographic makes sense.

The reason probably isn't that they don't want to play handheld games.

Re:Sony must be shaking in their boots... (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10727258)

I play games in the comfort of my own home. Given the choice between a handheld or a console, I'll use a console, because I can get more out of it. Outside my home, I don't play games. When I was younger, I used to, but I wasn't the one driving the car then, so it was a good way to keep me occupied. My point is, kids play portable systems because they can. Adults don't typically have the same opportunities. I'd imagine even people that use public transportation would be too self-conscious to play a game.

What do you have up your sleeve to support your claim?

Re:Sony must be shaking in their boots... (2, Insightful)

Kirby-meister (574952) | more than 9 years ago | (#10727305)

All I know is that my SP and Tetris cartridge save my sanity on the 7 hour flights I take.

And I'm in the "18-24" demographic of game players.

Re:Sony must be shaking in their boots... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10726791)

then under the same logic, Nintendo shouldn't bother developing a GC successor...

Re:Sony must be shaking in their boots... (1)

HAKdragon (193605) | more than 9 years ago | (#10726941)

They are; although no information has been released so far, other than its name: Revolution.

Re:Sony must be shaking in their boots... (1)

HAKdragon (193605) | more than 9 years ago | (#10726979)

ugh, I hate replying to my own posts, but that should be "code-name" not just "name".

With Nintendo... (4, Insightful)

poofyhairguy82 (635386) | more than 9 years ago | (#10726663)

When it comes to Nintendo, you have to wonder- is this shortage on purpose?

Some might blow off this question. Why would a company create a shortage when the other option is to sell more product? Simple answer- it creates consumer excitement. The N64 definatly benefited over its lifespan from having an initial shortage, the free advertisement from news outlets interested in parents fighting over a video game machine probably boosted the longterm sales of N64 by a few million systems (and they needed it- that was their weakest console system to date). Nintento knows that it has to survive not only this Christmas, but the next two or three as well with the same hardware. Next year when there isn't a shortage all that free advertising from the shortage will pay off.

I think that Nintendo is trying to do it in the U.S. at this point (will Japan have a shortage too?). The only reason to avoid the shortage was if they were newcomers in the biz and they needed the numbers from Christmas to pick up developers. But since Nintendo is assumed to always win in that market, they already have developers lined out the door.

Its a win win situation for them. The only losers are gamers who didn't preorder in time (shame on you!).

Re:With Nintendo... (3, Interesting)

phoxix (161744) | more than 9 years ago | (#10726744)

The N64 definatly benefited over its lifespan from having an initial shortage, the free advertisement from news outlets interested in parents fighting over a video game machine probably boosted the longterm sales of N64 by a few million systems (and they needed it- that was their weakest console system to date).

Bullshit

The Virtual Boy was their weakest console to date. It even caused the legend himself Gunpei Yokoi (inventor of original Game Boy, Metriod, nuff said) to leave Nintendo. And while the N64 did get a beating from PS-X, it had games the PS-X couldn't touch. (Which makes sense when you think about Nintendo as its own best developer.)

Re:With Nintendo... (4, Funny)

dykofone (787059) | more than 9 years ago | (#10727031)

Come on, it's obvious: the Virtual Boy wasn't a console. It was a portable, and marketed as such. I mean, it wouldn't even fit in most backpacks, and ran about 2 hours off of 6 AA batteries, and playing it in the car would cause your inner ear to explode through your retina, but other than it was portable by definition.

[Note: I am sad to say I was a huge Virtual Boy fan. I pre-ordered it, and even after forking over the cash and getting one the day of it's release, only to be the only one in line, I still told myself it was the coolest thing in the world. When nobody else at school had one and claimed it was giving children in Japan brain damage, I still said it was the coolest thing in the world. And when I found a fully-functioning in-store demo kiosk sitting on the side of the road waiting for the garbage truck, I threw it in the back of my truck, took it home and continued to call it the coolest thing in the world. I still live in denial that it was an overpriced, headache inducing pile of crap.]

Re:With Nintendo... (1)

gamgee5273 (410326) | more than 9 years ago | (#10727508)

Now, wait: How is a handheld not a console?

It's just a handheld console, but I wouldn't say a GB or DS or VB aren't consoles.

Re:With Nintendo... (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10726783)

"When it comes to Nintendo, you have to wonder- is this shortage on purpose?"

Nintendo predicted 4-5 million DS systems could be produced and shipped world wide by the end of 2004. That was 5 months ago. Recent guidance says they are on target to nearly meet the upper boundry of that estimate. Remeber the DS ships in North America first then Japan later. This is simply production capacity meeting exceedingly high demand.

Re:With Nintendo... (1)

vhold (175219) | more than 9 years ago | (#10727058)

It's somewhat difficult to say if it's a real or artificial shortage this time. Considering it's capabilities and price, and the fact it has 2 LCDs when LCD demand is so high..

But.. knowing Nintendo.. They don't particularly deserve the benefit of the doubt on this issue :)

Re:With Nintendo... (1)

MilenCent (219397) | more than 9 years ago | (#10727425)

Nintendo did things like this in the old NES days (chip shortage my ass), but there are reasons to believe they're not doing it now.

One of the biggest I can describe in three words: Pee. Ess. Pee.

Still, it's heartening news for Nintendo that the DS is proving so popular, even before release. Anyone want to place bets that Sony will anounce something similar in the near future?

ARGHHHHHH (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10727441)

D E F I N I T L Y

repaet after me!11

D I F A N I T E L Y

christ, kids these days

Re: is this shortage on purpose? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10727759)

Yes.

But its not a marketing campaign. It is a purely financial decision.

Nintendo has been, historically, extremely financially concious about their products. They have their sales system set up so that, even if the DS flops (which it isnt! woot! looks sick!) the financial impact would be minimal, and their cash backup (in excess of a billion) would be able to absorb the damage.

Trust me on this one. This is classic nintendo strategy, and most other console developers use it. Even sony.

What is a DS? (-1, Redundant)

Suidae (162977) | more than 9 years ago | (#10726682)

So whats a DS? Come on people, answer the 'W' questions in first paragraph of the article.

Re:What is a DS? (3, Informative)

PhoenixFlare (319467) | more than 9 years ago | (#10726725)

Try actually following the links or spending about 10 seconds searching on Google...Crazy concept, isn't it?

Google for "nintendo DS". 3rd result on the first page -

"USATODAY.com - Nintendo unveiling a new portable ... The Nintendo DS -- short for dual-screen -- will be unveiled Tuesday morning at the annual Electronic Entertainment Expo game industry gathering. ... "

Re:What is a DS? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10726895)

A PDA! with help from dslinux.com

Re:What is a DS? (1)

Suidae (162977) | more than 9 years ago | (#10727121)

Yes, I could look it up, but then why do we have article text? Lets just post some Google search terms instead.

Quit being stupid.

Re:What is a DS? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10727328)

Whatever - there have been countless articles posted on Slashdot about the DS and the first link in the article text has a picture of the console. How much more handholding do you need?

Re:What is a DS? (1)

jridley (9305) | more than 9 years ago | (#10727377)

OK, why would I say "Nintendo"? OK, the article mentioned a Nintendo product in conjunction with it, but also other products. It didn't specifically say "Nintendo DS", just "DS" and that there was a Nintendo product that had something to do with it.

Sure, I could go look it up, but should I have to go look up every product and concept talked about in an article? If it just said "Nintendo DS handheld" then I'd know it was nothing I gave a damn about, and could go on to the next article.

Re:What is a DS? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10727894)

But why should they when people like you are willing to answer their questions? (Even if it does come with a reprimand)

There will always be someone like you, the manual search engine. That is why such questions are asked.

Re:What is a DS? (1)

bigtangringo (800328) | more than 9 years ago | (#10726754)

I'm with you, in that the article should tell you the 5 W's but you should also know what the DS is. Googling for "DS" will give you exactly what you're looking for on the front page.

OT mention: Damn it must be cool to have a Household name like Google which can be used in almost every sense (Noun, Verb, Etc). VIVA LA GOOGLE!

Re:What is a DS? (0)

Profane MuthaFucka (574406) | more than 9 years ago | (#10727004)

Ah, thanks. Here's the start of the text, because it might be slashdotted:
=====
Author's note: I'm a pediatrician and the father of Avi, 10 years old, and Nathan, 12 years old. (Photos!) Avi has Down Syndrome ("DS" for short) and has inspired me to write these essays about children with DS for other parents. I have put them here for general reading. You may E-mail me with any questions about these essays. I have also included some other pediatric items of interest for parents.
====

So, are they selling retarded kids now? Who knew there'd be so much demand!

Re:What is a DS? (-1, Redundant)

Suidae (162977) | more than 9 years ago | (#10727148)

you should also know what the DS is.

Why? I don't care about video games. I just get a headline in my news feed that says something about 'DS Pre-Orders'. At the very least it should be 'Nintendo DS', then I'd know it was about video games and I could ignore it.

I've never heard of the Nintendo DS before, and I don't care if I ever see one or know what games can be played on it.

Re:What is a DS? (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10726978)

Its a PDA! after installing linux on it, checkout dslinux.com they are already porting Linux into the Nintendo Ds!

The same thing has been happening... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10726699)

...with the Duke Nukem: Forever preorders. Guess I'll just have to wait like everyone else.

Re:The same thing has been happening... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10727338)

No this is different. the DS will come out, Nuke Nukem forever on the other hand....

Feel the Magic XX/XY??? (3, Funny)

mattkime (8466) | more than 9 years ago | (#10726765)

Can someone explain to me what Feel the Magic XX/XY is like?

I have my own ideas about feeling the magic with an xx but i'm not sure anyone here will believe me.

Re:Feel the Magic XX/XY??? (1)

jandrese (485) | more than 9 years ago | (#10726845)

Sounds like porn to me. XX/XY look like the two most familiar pairs of chromosomes and "Feel the Magic" has all sorts of porn implications.

Re:Feel the Magic XX/XY??? (4, Informative)

SiW (10570) | more than 9 years ago | (#10726851)

One day, a rather ordinary guy sees a really beautiful woman on the street. Before he can move to follow her, he finds himself holding a bag of goldfish. Apparently, the goldfish are ingested by a passerby who bumps into our ordinary guy. After helping him regurgitate the fish, the ordinary guy is recruited into a "superperformance group" called the Rub Rabbits. Their pitch to him is that the best way for him to see the woman of his dreams again is to stage an amazing performance for her. And thus begins your adventure.

I'm not making this up.

Oh. My. God. (2, Funny)

RangerRick98 (817838) | more than 9 years ago | (#10726942)

Here I was getting ready to laugh at the obvious spoof on stupid video game ideas, when I hit paragraph two. Now my head hurts and I want my mommy.

Re:Feel the Magic XX/XY??? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10727054)

I'm not making this up.


Are you sure?

Re:Feel the Magic XX/XY??? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10726874)

Well when a XX and an XY love each other very much, they share a special hug. During this hug the XY occasionally asks the XX to feel his magic.

~BS
funny shirts [thewonderllama.com]

Re:Feel the Magic XX/XY??? (1)

KDR_11k (778916) | more than 9 years ago | (#10726943)

It's apparently a mixture between a dating sim and Wario Ware. You play minigames to court the girl. What gave them the idea that courting involves coughing up goldfish you swallowed or stopping a stampede of bulls is still unknown.

dating simulation (1)

karmafeed (728544) | more than 9 years ago | (#10726983)

It is a dating simulation game of sorts. These games have been popular in Japan for many years. It is probably pretty clean though, as this is a product for a Nintendo system. linky [ign.com]

Re:Feel the Magic XX/XY??? (1)

MP3Chuck (652277) | more than 9 years ago | (#10727023)

Here [ign.com]'s a preview article at IGN.com. It sounds quite innovative, and it really takes advantage of the DS's features. But whether it'll be fun to play is another story...

Re:Feel the Magic XX/XY??? (1)

Rude Turnip (49495) | more than 9 years ago | (#10727039)

I Googled for some screenshots...think Japanese dating sim (Google if you don't know what that is) meets iPod commercial.

Re:Feel the Magic XX/XY??? (1)

ebooher (187230) | more than 9 years ago | (#10727784)

http://ds.ign.com/objects/682/682868.html [ign.com]
Feel the Magic: XY/XX
also known as:
Project Rub
I Would Die For You
Kimi no Tame Nara Shineru (JPN)

Also known by its Japanese title Kimi no Tame Nara Shineru (I Would Die For You). You play as a rather ordinary character who one day falls in love at the first sight of a particularly hot chick. From then on, the character puts all his energy into getting the girl, only to find numerous obstacles in his way. The game was given its name to deliver the sense of how serious the main character's attraction is to the girl -- a good thing, because the entire point of the game is to earn the girl's affection. You use the Nintendo DS's touch panel to interact with the game and make the girl grow fond of you. The basic gist of the game is to touch the girl via the touch screen. In fact, the game doesn't even use the standard D-pad and button controls -- it's all about the touch.

http://ds.advancedmn.com/article.php?artid=1216 [advancedmn.com]
Buy her a fish tank: Goldfish are the surest way to a woman's heart, but be careful! Even if you happen to spill the tank and an innocent bystander accidentally ingests your sea animals, you still have a chance to show your worth. Get the fish back! Use the stylus to push the guppies back through the man's digestive system so he coughs them into the tank. Not only have you saved tiny aquatic lives, but you've kept your cool in a slippery situation.

Just some Info for you.

Nintendo's Super Mario 64 DS? I don't see it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10726809)

I know everyone is saying "Nintendo's Super Mario 64 DS" will be available at launch, but nobody is showing it for sale, and in any kind of actual announcement, there is never a commitment from Nintendo.

Re:Nintendo's Super Mario 64 DS? I don't see it (1)

jx100 (453615) | more than 9 years ago | (#10726977)

You haven't seen it for sale anywhere? I have a preorder receipt for it in my wallet...

DSlinux.com Nintendo DS Linux port! (0, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10726837)

Some poeple are already working on porting Linux into the Nintendo DS. The idea is full PDA functionality, with wireless, email, games, etc ....

www.dslinux.com

Looks like "Vote or Die" should have been... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10726903)

..."Vote and get a FREE Nintendo DS!"

Maybe then the dumbass youth vote would've saved us from 4 more years of Godboy.

DS Shortage (5, Interesting)

FugiMax (181273) | more than 9 years ago | (#10726999)

To those talking about the DS shortage as a marketing strategy, I highly doubt it. Two reasons:

1. The system is launching Nov. 21st here and Dec. 2 in Japan. That's the closest international hardware launch Nintendo has ever done. I assume Japan will get unit priority after launch to make sure there are units on the shelf to combat Sony's PSP which launches Dec 12.

2. Hardware was finalized only a few months ago, which means production has only recently begun. Add to this that each unit has 2 LCD screens (one being a touch screen), and you can see a possible kink in the supply chain here.

So while shortages always generate a frenzy, and thus free marketing in a sense, I think the shortage here is genuine.

Also, it is unclear whether or not this will hurt Nintendo. With PSP on the way sometime next year, having an install base of 4-5 million never hurts. Look at the wonders that did for PS2.

Re:DS Shortage (1)

Ayaress (662020) | more than 9 years ago | (#10727146)

I agree. The DS has, compared to the PS2 and its shortages, come out of nowhere. Just a few months ago, we didn't know what it'd be called, what it'd look like, or even if it wasn't just a hoax entirely. It may be free publicity, but I don't think Nintendo would play games with a risky shortage when the PSP is going to be ten days on their heels. The PS2 beat the Xbox and the Gamecube by a wide enough margin that they could make up for the shortage rush in time to still have breathing room before the Gamecube hit. Nitendo doesn't have that luxery.

Re:DS Shortage (1)

ribond (149811) | more than 9 years ago | (#10727492)

Hardware shortages are a fact life in product launches. Making sure that the shortage is news is what makes it marketing. I can't wait for my wireless handheld 3d FPS fun.

Call me stupid... (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10727153)

... but what's a DS, and just exactly why should I care?

Re:Call me stupid... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10727304)

Google

How long have you been using the internet?

Re:Call me stupid... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10727350)

google it, stupid

dslinux.com (0, Troll)

steban (828308) | more than 9 years ago | (#10727277)

I guess this a great time to tell you about our project. We are porting and promoting Linux into the Nintendo DS. www.dslinux.com

Re:dslinux.com (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10727404)

I wish you luck and progress. This would be a nice thing to introduce people to linux with and, if development goes really well, it might be a cheap linux handheld in comparsion to the Sharp Zaurus, which I will be getting shortly.

Re:dslinux.com (1)

steban (828308) | more than 9 years ago | (#10727538)

Thank you for your words, perhaps dslinux is a good excuse to get a Nintendo DS instead of the Zaurus and get coding instead!

Re:dslinux.com (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10727778)

I'm getting both actually. I'm not great at coding at all, so porting Linux to work on two different ARM processors would be inconceivable. No matter how great you make dslinux, the Zaurus SL series will always have better resolution, VGA compared to QVGA on each DS screen. The DS with DS linux would be better for emulation because of 3D acceration hardware though.

Re:dslinux.com - MIRROR? (1)

Llama_STi (745859) | more than 9 years ago | (#10727681)

Link busted, anyone have a mirror??

Re:dslinux.com - MIRROR? (1)

steban (828308) | more than 9 years ago | (#10727713)

Actually the server is holding well, I bet we can support even being frontpage slahdoted! and NO, our webserver doesnt run on a Nintendo DS (just yet). Steban dslinux.com

Re:dslinux.com (1)

mebob (57853) | more than 9 years ago | (#10727966)

Sound like an awesome idea to me definatly makes me want to complete my order with EBgames more. I'm very supprised that nintendo didn't partner with palm or plan on making it more of a pda them selves.

has any work actually been done yet or it just planning? what do you think nintendo's reaction will be?

Hmm. (3, Funny)

thdexter (239625) | more than 9 years ago | (#10727346)

I wonder if this might prove advantageous for Sony; if the DS sells out (supply can't meet demand), then maybe consumers will settle for the PSP in lieu of a DS.

Re:Hmm. (1)

evil carrot (669874) | more than 9 years ago | (#10727469)

Considering the PSP is supposed to be available later and at a higher price, I think consumers wouldn't want to "settle" for it.

That'd be like going to buy an eMachines system and "settling" for an iMac.

Re:Hmm. (1)

thdexter (239625) | more than 9 years ago | (#10727692)

Sure, but the PSP is only 33% more (compared to, yknow, 3x as much for your example). For gamers that want a DS but also are interested in the PSP, if they can't find a DS anywhere maybe they'll pick up a PSP instead and perhaps not get a DS for a while if at all.

Probably won't be enough to be anything but a negligible benefit for the PSP, but I should think it'll happen.

Re:Hmm. (1)

tktk (540564) | more than 9 years ago | (#10727956)

I really can't see that happening. The supply problem probably won't last beyond Xmas. The PSP will only be available in Japan during Xmas. Hard to settle for something else when you can't buy it. (Unless you're in Japan already.)

Current List of DS Titles (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10727458)

I work for a game retailer and wrote down the current pre-order list for all DS games with their respective retail prices and release dates.

AC ADAPTER - $12.99
AFTERGLOW STYLUS (PEL) - $9.99
ANIMAL CROSSING - $39.99
ASPHALT GT - $39.99 - 11/23/2004
ATARI CLASSICS - $39.99
BALLOON TRIP - $39.99
BOKTAI - $39.99
BOMBERMAN - $39.99
CADUCEUS - $39.99
CARRYING CASE NDS14 (ALS) - $9.99
CASTLEVANIA - $39.99
DRAGON BOOSTER - $39.99
DRAGON QUEST-MONSTERS SERIE - $39.99
DRAGON QUEST-STORY OF - $39.99
DYNASTY WARRIORS - $39.99
EGG MONSTER HEROES - $39.99
FEEL THE MAGIC - $29.99
FINAL FANTASY-CRYSTAL CHRON - $39.99
FROGGER 2005 - $39.99
GOLDENEYE - $39.99
MADDEN NFL - $39.99 - 11/15/2004
MARIO KART - $39.99
MEGA MAN-BATTLE NETWORK - $39.99
METEOS - $39.99
METROID PRIME-HUNTERS - $39.99
MOBILE SUIT GUNDAM SEED - $39.99
MONSTER RANCHER - $39.99
MOONLIGHT FABLES - $39.99
NANOSTRAY - $39.99
NEED FOR SPEED-UNDERGROUND - $39.99
NEW MR. DRILLER - $39.99 - 11/30/2004
PAC 'N ROLL - $39.99
PAC-PIX - $39.99
PING PALS - $29.99 - 12/2/2004
POWER MAX AC ADAPTOR (INTE - $9.99
PROJECT RUB - $39.99
RAYMAN - $39.99
REPLACEMENT STYLUS (PEL) - $3.99
ROAD POWER CAR ADAPTOR (INT - $9.99
ROBOTS - $39.99
SAFE CASE (INTEC) - $12.99
SAFE SCREEN (INTEC) - $4.99
SECRET OF MANA-STORY OF - $39.99
SLIME MORIMORI-STORY OF - $49.99 - $12/7/2004
SNOWBOARD KIDS DS - $39.99
SONIC DS - $39.99
SPIDERMAN 2 - $39.99 - 11/16/2004
SPONGEBOB SQUAREPANTS - $39.99
STARTER KIT (PEL) - $19.99
SUPER MARIO 64 X 4 - $39.99 - 11/21/2004
SUPER MARIO BROS - $39.99
SURVIVAL KIDS - $39.99
TIGER WOODS PGA TOUR GOLF - $39.99
URBZ-SIMS IN THE CITY - $39.99 - 11/15/2004
VANDAL HEARTS - $39.99
VIEWTIFUL JOE - $39.99
WARIO WARE - $39.99
WINX - $39.99
WORLD SOCCER-WINNING ELEVEN - $39.99
YU-GI-OH-NIGHTMARE TROUBAD - $39.99

Enjoy!

Damnit! (1)

satoshi1 (794000) | more than 9 years ago | (#10727584)

And I've been telling my mom we need to preorder, but NOO! Bah, if I don't get one preordered and will have to wait till almost Christmas to get one, I won't be a happy gamer (though I'll cheer up a bit when I finally get that sweet, sweet DS in my hands).

Technical merits? (1)

fireboy1919 (257783) | more than 9 years ago | (#10727613)

This thing has the processing capability of a modern GPU with more memory on a card than a modern PDA.

It sells for $150, but comes with stuff you'd find on a $500 PDA - i.e. a touchscreen, wireless, microphone, and unlike most, it actually has TWO screens. Considering the format, I also see no reason why it couldn't be used to watch DIVX encoded movies - at that size you could easily compress a full DVD to DIVX with no loss in quality.

They could sell an add-on "workboy" cartridge for $200 and it'd still be worth it if it was expandable. Or maybe linuxDS will happen? Either way, this is a heck of a deal on a PDA.

I Still Don't Get It! (2, Insightful)

blueZhift (652272) | more than 9 years ago | (#10727680)

I like new hardware as much as the next guy, but I still don't see what the killer app of the second screen is/will be! Project Rub sounds interesting in a salacious sort of way, but no way is that title coming to the U.S.! In the short run, it seems that the DS will be a more expensive way to run your SP games. Right now I'd say that the wireless connectivity offers more compelling gameplay possibilities than the second display.

The only other issue I'll raise is the potential awkwardness of games that use a stylus. How are you supposed to operate the D pad while scribbling with the stylus? Maybe this is a dumb question, but I just don't see it yet. You can put it down on a table top, but it really looks like it was designed to be held with both hands.

I'm not convinced either way, ds/psp (1)

Fiz Ocelot (642698) | more than 9 years ago | (#10727814)

I really do want to get a DS, but I've chosen not to because I don't see any release titles that really interest me. Maybe this is because I don't really have anywhere else to play it besides at home?

This really makes me question the viability the PSP will have with the older crowd being their target market. If I'm not home, I'm probably too busy to be playing games. So it has to compete with my PC and consoles.

I'd have to say the DS has a good future ahead of it overall in competition with the PSP imo. I guess like many people I will probably end up with both systems.

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