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New Blu-ray Disc to be Made of Corn

CowboyNeal posted more than 9 years ago | from the homegrown-storage dept.

Data Storage 358

aws910 writes "I've often thrown away a CD and wondered how long it will take to biodegrade. Pioneer has developed a blu-ray disc that is made of corn. If this disc is widely used, it may be the only easily biodegradable computer part/accessory (with the exception of pizza). Now I wonder what would happen to one of those new discs if you put one in the microwave for 5 seconds." While the idea of a corn disc isn't new, it's the first Blu-ray version of it.

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Corn CDs... (5, Funny)

zedmelon (583487) | more than 9 years ago | (#10730275)

Pioneer has developed a blu-ray disc that is made of corn.

And best of all, it stays crunchy in milk!

Fritz Pisot!

Re:Corn CDs... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10730477)

secret phallus.

first positive post (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10730276)

I love all of you, and corn!

first racist post (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10730304)

Niggers Niggers, our dark skinned friends. If they're not out working, they'll rape your girlfriend! For jail's their domain, they're society's bane-- Let's hear it for our friend the Nigger! Linux, linux, it's free as in beer. But if you installed it, you're a goddamn queer! To clear up your pimples, the solutions quite simple-- Just take a bath and use a face wash! Jews, jews, their noses are long. They've got to clean the extra skin on their dong! They'll steal all your money, the kabelah's funny-- Let's go for the final solution! Hitler, Hitler, our glorious fuhrer. With all his jew gassing, he'll make the race purer!

Who throws away dics? (3, Interesting)

fembots (753724) | more than 9 years ago | (#10730278)

Eco-friendly disc is nice, but how many people are going to throw away Blu-ray disc?

25GB is serios amount of data, I (maybe just me) would try to keep it even if it contains very unimportant data, since it's so easy to store a disc, it's not like you need one 5x5 room to store it.

--
Play iCLOD Virtual City Explorer [iclod.com] and win Half-Life 2

Re:Who throws away dics? (5, Insightful)

tuxter (809927) | more than 9 years ago | (#10730292)

How many people thought they where going to throw away a CD, or, gasp, a CD-R with their amazing 680 meg of data. Give it a few years and we will.

Re:Who throws away dics? (2, Insightful)

Piranhaa (672441) | more than 9 years ago | (#10730303)

Well when CD/DVD's came out, I'm sure people were saying the same thing! As more and more demand for more storage comes out, cheaper media comes out, and more and more cheaper burners come out, there's going to be coasters and better for biodegradable reasons :)

Re:Who throws away dics? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10730317)

yeah! i never throw away those AOL CDs from 1997... cause that was a serious amount of data!

you totally have a well-formed point.

Re:Who throws away dics? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10730406)

I'm sort of worried about bit rot.

Re:Who throws away dics? (3, Funny)

IBeatUpNerds (827376) | more than 9 years ago | (#10730428)

Well, say it contained some crucial evidence to some nefarious plot. You could simply break it into 4 or 5 pieces and munch it down with some salsa and guac.

Re:Who throws away dics? (0, Redundant)

Afromelonhead (730368) | more than 9 years ago | (#10730543)

First of all, the article mentions that the cd is covered with a .01 mm layer of resin supposedly "tough" enough to withstand the strongest teeth. So, I think that you might have to break it up into a few more pieces than just 4 or 5.

... On the other hand, what would be the point of eating the disc when it's laying in bunches of pieces? I seriously doubt that someone is going to sit through and try to glue together the pieces.

I wonder... (4, Funny)

I_am_Rambi (536614) | more than 9 years ago | (#10730283)

Now I wonder what would happen to one of those new discs if you put one in the microwave for 5 seconds.

Would that be a popcorn disc?

Joke with correct punchline (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10730535)

I think you'll find it will be a corny pop disc.

FP (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10730284)

First Post!

-DT

Corn? (2, Funny)

E_elven (600520) | more than 9 years ago | (#10730289)

So what happens when the computer gets hot?

Nachos are served (2, Funny)

EtherAlchemist (789180) | more than 9 years ago | (#10730473)


So what happens when the computer gets hot?

It smells like corn tortillas, of course.

What I want to know is, can you make nachos from the discs that end up as the inevitable coasters?

Mmmmm, blu-ray disc nachos...

Oh boy. (4, Funny)

neuro.slug (628600) | more than 9 years ago | (#10730293)

Let the corny jokes commence.

Oh wait...

Not a corny joke (5, Funny)

Ohreally_factor (593551) | more than 9 years ago | (#10730435)

Let the corny jokes commence.

Atkins dieters are eagerly awaiting the Blu-ray disc composed of pork rind.

Re:Not a corny joke (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10730579)

mmmmmmm...pork.

Re:Oh boy. (1)

DaHat (247651) | more than 9 years ago | (#10730455)

Being a resident of South Dakota, I've heard them all due to my proximity to the Corn Palace [cornpalace.org] so I fear I won't be contributing.

I've got one... (5, Funny)

bchernicoff (788760) | more than 9 years ago | (#10730456)

Now I wonder what would happen to one of those new discs if you put one in the microwave for 5 seconds.

You get...pop music!

Re:Oh boy. (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10730481)

will they use blue corn?

Oh boy-King Taco. (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10730533)

"Let the corny jokes commence."

Why didn't CmdrTaco bring us this story?

Middle? (5, Funny)

kirkb (158552) | more than 9 years ago | (#10730299)

Is the middle of the disc called the "corn hole"?

Re:Middle? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10730489)


I need TP for my cornholio!!!

-Beavis

Pizza (5, Funny)

LordHatrus (763508) | more than 9 years ago | (#10730301)

I'm glad you included pizza; They don't call rackmount servers "pizza box" servers for nothing ;) ... fit a mini-atx nicely :D

Made with corn... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10730305)

Made with corn... ...but filled with porn!

The cost? Your first born.

Re:Made with corn... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10730559)

but don't you morn or be forlorn,
because it can't be broken, scratched or torn
so toot your horn, and go get shorn
to get the discs endorsed by Michael Dorn.

so ashamed must post anonymously

An interesting thought... (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10730306)

This will be the first data transfer medium that will have a cornhole.

Thank you. I'm here all week.

Think of the implications (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10730307)

You can put it in the microwave and have popcorn made directly on a serving platter

Genetic Engineering (4, Interesting)

vlad_grigorescu (804005) | more than 9 years ago | (#10730311)

We have been gentically engineering corn for a variety of purposes for a while now. I wonder if this will spur a "Blu-ray" variant of corn. It should be interesting to consider what properties of the corn would make the best discs (longest lasting, scratch-resistant, etc.)

shelf life? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10730312)

would it have the same shelf life?

Id hate to see my pr0n just rot away...

so a biodegradable archival medium huh? (4, Interesting)

way2trivial (601132) | more than 9 years ago | (#10730313)

Some manufacturers currently offer what should be a 300 year cdr for archiving... [engadget.com]

how long does the corn last anyway?

Warning: Pun! (3, Funny)

shigelojoe (590080) | more than 9 years ago | (#10730316)

Does this mean that /.-ers will start storing their pr0n on their cr0n?

Re:Warning: Pun! (4, Funny)

magefile (776388) | more than 9 years ago | (#10730374)

No, they'll use cr0n to aut0mate pr0n backups t0 c0rn.

Re:Warning: Pun! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10730396)

And will they schedule it to work at night or in the mr0n? With the voice of Michael Dr0n or Aragr0n? Will it sound a hr0n? ...Okay, this is getting old.

I wonder.... (2, Funny)

tuxter (809927) | more than 9 years ago | (#10730319)

If you get your finger stuck in the spindle hole, does that constitute being cornholed?

Longevity? (5, Insightful)

fdawg (22521) | more than 9 years ago | (#10730329)

My CD-Rs are slowly falling apart due to age. After about 4 or 5 years, they're about as good as dirt. Ive been slowly converting everything to DVD but I fear the same thing will happen to them. I remember reading on slashdot that disks have a limitted shelf life due to corrosion and the breakdown of laminates. Now, these disks are designed to breakdown. What good is this to anyone who wants to keep data beyond half a decade?

Re:Longevity? (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10730404)

Currently from what I understand they have two types of bio plastics. One will be used for containing food you buy at stores, flatware, plates, cups, so forth that you throw out. They take some time to degrade and start when in dark damp places. The second kind you have to burn off at a low temperature, it doesn't give off anything harmfull when burned. Car bodies, interior parts, and long term plastic parts will be made of this type. So unless it's lifetime of the dvd is intended to be weeks or less then they will use the kind that is more or less permanent.

I haven't seen any data on how long these will hold up even using the type you need to burn off.

Re:Longevity? (1)

Ohreally_factor (593551) | more than 9 years ago | (#10730414)

What good is this to anyone who wants to keep data beyond half a decade?

Not much, what a boon to the MPAA! When you buy a DVD, you'll really be buying the privilege to watch a particular movie for a limited amount of time. If you want to see it again after your disc decomposes, you'll have to purchase it again.

Re:Longevity? (1)

tuxter (809927) | more than 9 years ago | (#10730531)

Or this... http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/News/Press/200404/04- 0415E/ Fancy burning a disc for me?

Re:Longevity? (2, Insightful)

zakezuke (229119) | more than 9 years ago | (#10730440)

What good is this to anyone who wants to keep data beyond half a decade?

What about data that doesn't need to be kept beyond a 1/2 decade? I think that's the point. The first thing that comes to mind are security camera videos. DVD-/+R is the prevered medium due to its small size and low cost but long term storage is pointless.

Re:Longevity? (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10730442)

While the disc can theoretically be eaten, it is coated by a 0.1-millimeter (0.004-inch) thick layer of resin and is too hard for even the strongest teeth.

So it's not designed to breakdown, it's designed so that if the starch polymer is incinerated, it will not emit dioxins and any other harmful chemicals.

Re:Longevity? (2, Interesting)

GreatBunzinni (642500) | more than 9 years ago | (#10730541)

Note that being biodegradable doesn't necessarily mean that it has a short life. There are plastics which are biodegradable but are quite durable. I don't know If this is the case but still, don't confuse the two concepts.

And by the way, if in fact these disks break up easily, they may not be of much use for someone who wants to keep data for a long time. But, as you stated on your post, neither are the vast majority (if not all) of the storage media which is bought off the shelf in any store. And, unlike the typical CD-R/CD-RW/whatever, these corn disks break up in a rather environmentaly friendly way, which is a vast improvement.

It's not... (1)

Ramses0 (63476) | more than 9 years ago | (#10730564)

Remember, we are living in a disposable society (Cars. Computers. Etc.). There is far more good media (as in "stuff to see, listen, read") than anyone has time to consume, even if you just go to the public domain (ie; project gutenberg).

To some extent, this unplanned obsolescence of media (the carrier of information) such as VHS->DVD, Cassette->CD->MP3/AAC/WMA has given the media conglomorates more opportunities to (re)sell all of their Beatles and Pink-Floyd catalogs.

Now, if you can guarantee the obsolence of your media (accidentally!, and even making environmentalists happy while doing it), and put that decay beyond the event-horizon of the average purchaser (increasingly easy to do), you've got a recurring revenue stream. That's one reason why I ripped all my CD's to OGG (not MP3), and am not buying anything from iTunes.

1- OGG specification and all tools are completely public domain

2- I trust CD media less than copies of my music on two separate hard-drives.

3- No DRM (I didn't put it there), and I can always go from OGG->WAV in the worst-case scenario (I ripped at reasonably high quality (-q7=~220kbps), so I wouldn't even feel too bad transcoding them to 128kbps MP3 if I wanted to).

What it points to is: The right to maintain current, known-good backups must be protected, and YOU store YOUR data in an open, known-good, future-proof format (OGG, RTF, HTML, JPG/PNG, .tgz, PGP), and damn everyone else to the hell that they're (un)knowingly getting themselves into.

--Robert

Nachos (5, Funny)

3770 (560838) | more than 9 years ago | (#10730339)

Man,

That's gonna be thousands of tons of corn diverted away from making nachos.

Make those discs out of egg plant instead. Nobody will miss them.

Mmmm... Nachos.

Re:Nachos (1)

MouseR (3264) | more than 9 years ago | (#10730392)

On the other hand, we could have accompanying dip for old backups. Better yet: data burritos.

I predict... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10730342)

corny jokes :P

Watch out for hobos.. (1)

Man in Spandex (775950) | more than 9 years ago | (#10730344)

I can see it now, hobos doing door to door pretending to be "Blu-Ray Disc Inspectors", chewing every disc they see to see if its authentic and then have the BIG FEAST with all the other Blu-Ray Disc Inspectors.

Re:Watch out for hobos.. (2, Funny)

Epsillon (608775) | more than 9 years ago | (#10730542)

Somebody ought to force AOL to use this technology. Then, far from having to act their way to a free seedy ROM, there would be a plentiful supply for the bums to eat and, as a side-effect, AOL would actualy be doing something useful for once.

Feedstocks! (4, Insightful)

Ohreally_factor (593551) | more than 9 years ago | (#10730348)

This will be great for recycling discs to feedstocks, since most of Hollywood's output is swill fit for pigs anyway. (Sorry if I offended any pigs. I am such an insensitive bastard.)

Re:Feedstocks! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10730443)

secret phallus

Microwaves (5, Funny)

Indy Media Watch (823624) | more than 9 years ago | (#10730355)

Now I wonder what would happen to one of those new discs if you put one in the microwave for 5 seconds.

He writes that knowing full well what happens to current discs when you put them in the microwave.

That is.... Awesome lightshow caused by arcs between the thousands/millions of pits and hills on the disc's surface.

I highly recommend it, but suggest:

a) Not using your own microwave
b) Not using a disc you like to watch...

In case you can't resist,

c) Not putting it back into your own DVD player afterward.

Re:Microwaves (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10730568)

Pictures?? Anyone have a link?

Will ants like this, too? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10730359)

I remember seeing a story several months back about ants getting into a powerbook because the board was some kind of polymerized carbohydrate. Will they like discs now, too?

Argh. Corn? (1)

Merk (25521) | more than 9 years ago | (#10730380)

Do we really need another corn-based product? Nearly everything you eat has corn in it. Drinks have high-fructose corn syrup. Bread has corn as well. Beef is raised on a diet of corn (and they have to use antibiotics so that the cows can digest it).

This is all because of ludicrous subsidies the government gives corn farmers. It results in corn products so cheap that they're essentially free.

Biodegradeable products are great. Don't get me wrong, but I suspect the only reason they're using corn here is that it's "free".

Hey Republican Majority! You know how you always talk about fiscal responsibility, reducing taxes, and reducing the size of the government? Now's the time to wipe out the corn subsidy once and for all. Maybe there's one thing you'll do in the next 2 or 4 years that won't completely piss me off.

Re:Argh. Corn? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10730434)

Some bio plastics are made from bacteria and some use parts of the hemp plant to strengthen it like fiber glass.

Re:Argh. Corn? (3, Funny)

glowimperial (705397) | more than 9 years ago | (#10730472)

I don't think they are going to do anything that displeases their masters in the red states. We are going to have ugly, bad for the economy corn subsidies for a long time.

Ob. Simpsons (1)

k4_pacific (736911) | more than 9 years ago | (#10730556)

Lisa: His shoes are corn, his hat is corn, I think even that check is made of corn.

Homer: Lisa, a man who has plenty of corn is less likely to hurt Stalky than someone whose corn supplies are running low.

Biodegradable computer products (1)

mknewman (557587) | more than 9 years ago | (#10730391)

You guys are killing me... "If this disc is widely used, it may be the only easily biodegradable computer part/accessory (with the exception of pizza)." Seriously, though, computer paper is still recyclable and I assume bio-degradable and anyone else remember paper punch cards and tape? Marc

CornDisc (4, Funny)

SinaSa (709393) | more than 9 years ago | (#10730407)

I think this is a potentially a very cool thing, but you have to admit it's immensley funny if you think about it.

Five Pioneer R&D guys sitting at a table, thinking what they are going to do with Blu-Ray. One of them looks down at his bag of nacho's... look's up at the picture of the DVD, then back at the Nacho's.

The rest is history.

Food supply? (2, Interesting)

MP3Chuck (652277) | more than 9 years ago | (#10730411)

So I didn't RTFA, but why divert corn from the food supply? I'm sure it's not exactly in short supply but with so many starving people in the world wouldn't it be better off actually feeding people?

Or will the occasional coaster now be edible? ;)

Re:Food supply? (1)

k4_pacific (736911) | more than 9 years ago | (#10730510)

Well, I don't think that this would significantly impact food production. We already pay farmers not to grow things. I'm even thinking of not growing a few hundred acres of corn on my 1/8 acre plot.

Mmmm. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10730424)

pass the bean dip

Noo... data come back (1)

Janitha (817744) | more than 9 years ago | (#10730475)

Only thing I wouldnt like about this idea is storing the disks somewhere for a while, only to come and find it rotting (including data loss) but if there is something to help protect again, I am all for it.

corporate espionage (3, Insightful)

k4_pacific (736911) | more than 9 years ago | (#10730482)

This would be great for corporate espionage. If you are caught by security, you can hastily wolf it down. No more evidence!!

"It was a rice cake, I swear!"

In related news. . . . . . (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#10730486)

The new SCO Open Server CDs are going to be made from re-cycled bullshit.

More news at eleven

Biodegradable computer accessories (1)

Mostly a lurker (634878) | more than 9 years ago | (#10730526)

only easily biodegradable computer part/accessory (with the exception of pizza)

Last I checked, programmers were also easily biodegradable, with the exception of a few bones.

Microwave? (1)

kazoosandinstruments (717278) | more than 9 years ago | (#10730530)

I wonder what would happen to one of those new discs if you put one in the microwave for 5 seconds.

I don't know what will happen if you put one in the microwave, but if my drive stops reading one of these things I might throw some shredded cheese on it and find out... Really though, this is truly brilliant. I have stacks upon stacks of dated versions of random Linux distros that I have no idea what to do with ... soon I will be able to make tacos/burritos/quesadillas/enchiladas/etc out of old copies of Linux. Further, I don't drink up enough coffee to use all those coasters AOL sends me, I can make something yummy out of those too. Genius, whoever thought of this!

Late night snack (1)

hools1234 (789912) | more than 9 years ago | (#10730536)

Sounds like the perfect uni students dream.. something that holds your entire mp3 collection and doubles as a 2am mid study snack!

Stupidest idea ever. (1)

Alcimedes (398213) | more than 9 years ago | (#10730544)

WTF? Can someone explain to my WHY I would want to store my data on biodegradable discs? Isn't the whole point of disc to store long term?

Re:Stupidest idea ever. (2, Insightful)

gl4ss (559668) | more than 9 years ago | (#10730573)

sometimes it is not.

the idea is that it wont fill landfills like non-sold et carts.

Shiny? (2, Interesting)

marciot (598356) | more than 9 years ago | (#10730561)

Don't CDs have to be shiny and reflective? What is shown in the picture sure looks dull and matte. Has blu-ray eliminated the need for the reflective backing? -- Marcio
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